Why you should not trust youtube shills:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.Recommended tablets:>Screenless:Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom>Display:Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LiteMedium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27, used 24 Pro, 27QHDAvoid:>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitationsPoor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.>New iPadsMassively overpriced and overhyped.>Microsoft Surface ProMore optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.>Cintiq 13-16"Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad>LenovoWorse than Samsung in every way.Previous: >>7770114
>>7818253>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
>>7818254>>7818253
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>>7818253>>7818254>>7818256
Reminder that this is literally all you ever need
>>7818269Actually I need less.
Reminder that the autist who keeps crying chang at anyone recommending anything but Wacom is shilling a Chinese product.
>>7818367Somehow chinks like you are still unable to differentiate between manufacturing location and where the company is actually based.
>>7818269I have intuos, but the small one. it's a little uncomfortable, but the hotkeys are nice since I slide the keyboard under my desk when I draw
>>7818370>It's not the exact same Chinese shit as everywhere else despite being made in the same chink factories because Jews from Washington price gouge!
>last thread got spammed for a new one>>7818253>42:01>>7818254>42:29>>7818255>43:02>>7818256>43:34>>7818257>44:05>all of these posts spammed so you couldn't see a single post made by a non spambot before having to scroll down a bunchyou literally cannot convince me this isn't some janny being paid to shill samsung productsit implies that you should buy wacoms and ipads used, and that the new ones are "bad", but samsungs should be bought new?
>>7818255>no dateWhen did this happen? Can you repeat this with the first two weeks of December 2025?
>>7818253i love my ipad pro, but everyone be aware if you aren't already, it had horrible pen wobble on slow or medium diagonal strokes.
OP got btfo in last thread, so he ran away only to get btfo here. Sasuga chink plastic shill.
>>7818481That and the overly obnoxious and incendiary Wacom autist is very obviously trying to paint anyone who prefers Wacom in a bad light.
Budget wacoms are legitimately worse than budget chinese tablets>no tilt support and 2048 levels of pressure in 2026
>>7818636>needing more than 2048 ps
Are these threads always like this or did you pick up the wacom shill recently?
>>7818644>recentlyHe's been here from the get-go, all the way back in 2020 when he decided to make a general after a barrage of threads on /g/.>>>/g/76558888He used to be a common user of /csg/ aka "Chink Shit General", probably got lead poison from anime figurines and became mentally ill.Even if he wasn't around, you'd have to be retarded to actually take advice from consumerism threads by anons that don't actually post pictures of things they have though.Go ask on twitter or an art discord for tablet suggestions instead.
>>7818686The only anon that posted his work uses huion and was called a chang for saying his old cintiq had driver issues.
>>7818689>/dtg/>drawingPick one.
Is the OP still accurate? I thought XP Pen at least was doing a lot better these days, especially for the price. At least that's what YouTube artists seem to be saying.Not shilling, just trying to be as informed as possible before dropping hundreds on one.
>>7818697Do you have eyes? Use them to read the rest of the thread and not only OP. But to answer your question, no, he hasn't been accurate for literal years, arguably never.
>>7818701Yeah i posted before reading the thread. >frogposter is retarded
>>7818701You're wrong and an idiot. I've curated these threads for years now and update them as I need to. The simple fact is Chinese tablets just aren't good. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a worst a shill, and at best misinformed and leading people into wasting their money. It always has and always will be Wacom>Apple>Samsung>everything else. I wish so badly these threads would either just be a sticky with replies disabled or for me to moderate them and delete stupid replies like this.
don't listen to chang's lies
>>7818697>At least that's what YouTube artists seem to be saying.they're all paid shills>>7818483go check it yourself you dumb shill. but if you're too brain damaged for that see >>7817790
>>7818253>Cintiq 22oudated, cintiq 24 (2025) replaced it
>>7818644it started after chang tried to shill shitty knockoffs
>>7818375try harder chang
>>7818730>go check it yourselfI'm not browsing reddit but I'll take your word.
my huion fried my laptop's monitor
>>7818726You still haven't shown proof that you own the tablets you talk about, or that you even draw. There's no reason to believe you because you don't back up the claims you make, you just point at a Reddit post or YouTube video that makes the brands you like look good while ignoring everything else.
>>7818752reddit is the first place gullible normies go to complain about their broken chink tablets
apparently telling wacom schizo to kill himself is a bannable offence now, janitors u go kill yourselves too
>>7818738I do not want to buy Smasnug, gook. Shit post elsewhere. Chances are they'll start piping full-screen ads through those, too.
>>7818694>>7812371
>>7818726yeah sure is a shame people who actually draw can give out their personal reviews on tablets instead of shit from webm compilations of youtube, reddit screencaps and made up headcanons using google images.
>chinaman still so upset about the OP he spends his time gaslighting as the OP and having an argument with himselfStill not recommending anyone buys your low-quality crap, Chang.It's now possible to buy a Cintiq 24 Pro with the ergo stand for $700. No need to even think about XP-Junk or Poouion anymore.
Thread is just a humiliation ritual for /beg/s, just filter it out and go draw, you spergs./dtg/i;boards:ic;op:onlyin "Subject"
>>7818868begs still need a beginner tablet, the truth is that literally any screenless tablet all uses the same tech from the same 2 digitizer manufactuers, it literally doesn't matterdriver support matters even less if the tablet is supported by OpenTabletDriver, because that means you're no longer vulnerable to the manufacturer dropping support.
>>7818872>OpenTabletDriver
>>7818876ctrl+space rotates the canvas
>>7818881*zooms in the canvas
>>7818838>>7818771same fag, and even if it isn't the same guy, get help. There's something wrong with this kind of mentality. >>7818808Post your email. If I knew who you were I'd make sure you'd be banned. I can't stand you people sometimes. I try not to look at these trolls because I know it's bait, but you know what, sometimes i gets to me. If I knew people weren't counting on these threads I would stop. I'm a person too, but this weird antagonistic shit towards someone that ALWAYS posts these threads is nuts.
low effort bait
>>7819221>There's something wrong with this kind of mentality.How, elaborate. You make claims that are hard to believe and goes against what many other people said, so we ask for proof. >If I knew people weren't counting in these threads I would stop.Hilarious, a quick look at the archives suggest otherwise.
>hey Anon it's time to reinstall the tablet driver for the second time in 10 days and restart your PCWacom may have the best tablets but their code is written by jeet street shitters.
I love doing this instead of drawing! This is my favorite part.
I risk another ban, this thread is just the honeypot of a janny chilling crap to get the money since they moderate this place for free.At this point, this info should be in the sticky and be updated, with luck, once a year, but you have this retard spamming the thread in order to keep it on the first page.i have draw for a few years, had a lot of tablets, my take including range or need are.>screenlessthere is NOT a single best option than the xp pen deco v 03. is 50 dollars in amazon and is one if not the one with the biggest work area in the market, yes, i have the deco pro which is a few centimeters bigger but there is no huge difference, you can probably pick something even cheaper or second hand online, a lot, and i mean a lot of students buy these for 1 class and after the semester is finished they do not touch them.>screen tabletDepending on your budget, the wacom cintiq 16 is the best option by far, but is expensive, for half the price, you can get a xp pen, i have an artist 16, which didnt let me down for years and was worth every cent until i sold it.>portableipad, i know, apple, but there is no better option, these things, specially the old ones are build like trucks, if you take care, i assure you it will last forever. best way to get one is to join facebook market and search for women selling them, they barely use it in general and you can find gems with good condition.
>>7819578Oh wow a real discussion for once>ScreenlessI agree they are all the same. Intuos Pro is simply unreasonable, 350$ for a black rectangle? No. And literally every other tablet (Huion and Xp-Pen) are using the Ugee technology so they are identical. Although I don't know if the newer pentech 3/4/whatever feel nicer, but regardless, the pens are servicable, at 60$ you get a 100% functional device you can do anything with. I learned to draw on an old dogshit huion with a battery pen. They sure as fuck came a long way.Yes the wobble is real and no it doesn't affect the real life performance because you aren't going to draw straight lines by hand without a stabilizer. I used these tablets long before the wobble was discovered, and I had no fucking idea, lol.>Depending on your budget, the wacom cintiq 16 is the best option by far, but is expensive,I am waiting for the Huion Kamvas Pro 19 to arrive, but the customs are busy during the holyday season and the Russian post is notoriously shit, i don't know when am I gonna get something I paid 1000$ for. When It arrives I'm going to review it extensively. I am the first Chang, yes that one who drove the schizo insane. >know, apple, but there is no better optionSamsung plus and Ultra are perfectly capable. I'm still using the Samsung S7+ I bought when it released with a bluetooth keyboard. In fact i used it for professional work doing the sprites for a VN.
>>7819601>Yes the wobble is real and no it doesn't affect the real life performanceBTW on the topic of wobble. The schizo is going to say that Intuos Pro allow you to draw without a stabilizer for a real feel. That's bullshit. Literally every tablet has wobble, that's a specific of how the digitizers work, however Intuos Pro has a firmware stabilizer built into the tablet. That's why the OSU! players use Bamboo, the Bamboo have a faster response and they also have wobble. There are no wobble free tablets, there only are tablets with built in stabilizer.
>>7819601honestly i talk out of the best option from quality or price, i know there are a lot of options and sometimes we have to accommodate to what we have at our reach, nothing wrong with that.>>7819605this is one of the biggest lies on this thread, i would pay real money to see the schizo grab a pencil and draw perfect lines to see what excuse they pull off. wobble is a skill issue, no hardware, pick a real inking pen and you will see how little you can blame the tablets
>>7819609>i would pay real money to see the schizo grab a pencilI'm not schizo, i'm Chang, the real one (i'm blonde and blue eyed btw)Red lines are done with a ruler, blue lines are freehand. If you zoom in really fucking closely you can see there's like 1 pixel waviness to them, both the ruler and the freehand lines wave very subtly.Yes it's real and not it's completely unimportant. You would have never noticed that if you weren't told it's there and it's completely not relevant to real drawingBTW the Schizo literally doesn't have a tablet to post anything,
>>7819617The tablet is a Deco Pro BTW. This is the wobble the schizo is talking about, you might see it if you squint. Yes it's real, no it doesn't matter.
>>7819617>(i'm blonde and blue eyed btw)And I'm also 6'5". I'm not being ironic. I simply want the schizo to feel inadequate about himself.
wtf i boughted a wacom and it didn't work and was very low quality??? went back to my old xp pen which has worked flawlessly for years
>>7819640check drivers. this literally cannot be possible.
>>7819669fixed, thanks anon. i reinstalled but it didn't work at first, but then i realized I had an old gaomon driver still active. i took that off and it works great now.
>>7819669nevermind they broke again, might just have to return this piece of garbage... never buying wacom again
>>7819841don't listen to this anon, it worked just fine. have a nice christmas and happy new year lol
>>7819942you too, bud. Let me know if you have any other issues.Merry Xmas HNY
>>7819640i'm having the same issue... atleast my huion works well
>>7819968ok chang
Bought a Samsung s10 fe, do you guys know a case for it that won’t make my pen act retarded because of the stupid fucking magnets? Also saw people saying buying a Wacom pen for it would make my cock bigger, I trust you degenerates more than the other bots
>>7820223dont trust anyone here, big mistake
any reqs for a retardedly huge display ?I do mean something absurd, like 27 inch screen tablet
>>7820562Get this, i've heard good things about it.
>>7820592>2200 dollaridoosI know it's 4k and 144hz but holy moly
>>7818726Where do you think Wacom tablets are manufactured?
>>7820600Wow, that's almost as much as wacom's 17 inch.
>>7819625>>7819617Huion Kamvas here.Red line is the mathematical straight edge (starting point + shift click to end point)Blue is using a straight edgeGreen is free hand (which I'm very proud of. I can never free hand straight lines).at size 20 for 600dpi and no smoothing I can sorta-almost see a hint of wobbling. Anything smaller and I can't see it.What's the over-under that the wacom schizo is just falseflagging to get people to stop supporting the company?
Man these threads are bizarre, feels more like some schizo /g/ shit than an art thing. I've been using the Wacom Intuos Small for years now and it feels fine (the white and black one from circa 2018, I don't even know the official name). I'm sure there's better stuff but I don't get all the venom here. You can make nice art with a shitty kiddie crayon. I'm sure just about any tablet is sufficient and you should focus on other problems.
>>7821161This is too specific, he's trying to get people to hate Wacom specifically. My guess is that he's a Samsung gook.
>>7821057Just about all of this thread is 1 paid bad actor and everyone pointing and laughing at him.
Anyone know of a similar design to this for a macropad? to get the official csp one, its like 140 usd to send here. was thinking of using a cheap vr remote but idk if that'd work
Why does my screen corners become red overtime do I really have to buy one every 3 years
>>7821309a typical vr controller for an actual headset will absolutely not work. Those cheapo ones that come with a phone vr headset case might work though, or possibly a joycon. I'm not too sure how it'd work software wise though, binding keybinds to controller inputs
I got one of those samsung tablets and it feels like ass to draw on. I've never used a tablet like this before, just an intuos, but my problems are that the screen is way too slick and there's no feedback, plus the pen is super thin. Any recommendations to fix this? I'd rather not return this since it's a really good android tablet otherwise
>>7821600wrap some tape or something around the stylus and there's probably some sort of screen protector you can buy to add some texture
>>7821600that's a youtube video, not something you bought
>>7821600I bought an astropad for my iPad, I love it. Came with some special nibs too.
>>7818726I am starting to think that you are a white woman and you were raped by an ugly chinkcel hahahahaahah
>>7821275>He deleted itHit the bail in the head.
I got a display tablet after years of using screenless, it´s almost like trying to learn everything from scratch and rewiring my brain.Fuck me, but im not gonna give up!
>>7822012This is why I tell people to start with paper and if they enjoy it to jump to a display tablet.
>>7822020Dont get me wrong I enjoy paper a lot, but its still a bit weird to use screen.
>>7818253What drawing tablet screen or screenless is best for someone using Linux? I can't be arsed with W11 at the moment.
>>7822894i know that xp-pen has linux driversI don't know about wacom, huion etc
>>7822894There's also Open Tablet Driver, that works what a lot of different tablets. Here's the compatibility list:https://opentabletdriver.net/Tablets
>>7822923wacom has in-tree linux driver supporthttps://linuxwacom.github.io/
>pic unrelated, just for attentionI'm a /beg/ looking for a tablet that will be good all the way up to at least /int/. Price range is anything up to maybe 200NZD (116~USD). The OP says chinks make knock-offs so I assume Wacom is good? I'm eying the Wacom Intuos Medium Black cause the small seems too small (152.4 x 94.0 mm holy moly). Is it worth getting the OTG adapter? I don't know what that would be useful for. Do I even need to be thinking about this? I assume worrying about the quality of your drawing tablet is like worrying about the quality of your drawing pencils (unless you're good enough to notice the difference it doesn't matter).
>>7823914This whole thread is disinformation, every screenless tablet made in the last 5-10 years is good enough, just make sure it's supported on the platforms you use and you can live with the hotkeys it comes with.
>>7824145That's just your coping mechanism, chink shillbot.Everyone knows Chinese brands are terrible.
>>7824159you also completely ignore how terrible wacom has gotten knowing they don't have to compete because retards like you will buy their trash because it says wacom on it
>>7824159you don't even draw faggot
>>7822894My kamvas 22 plus just werks on linux, no extra drivers needed.
>>7824161why lower the bar further?
Anyone use this thing for professional work or is it just a novelty?
>>7824145okay, I'm gonna buy the Wacom Intuos Medium Black. thank you anon.>>7824159>>7824161>>7824165>>7824474it can't be this serious guys.
>>7822939Welp I tried this one out. Got it working with my XP-Pen. I was just thinking if I could get it working with my old screenless Huion as well because I'm starting to get that back/shoulder fatigue from working with screen tablets for long time. Or I'll just get a cheap screenless XP-Pen for the times where I don't need that much accuracy
>>7824891Forgot to add. Using two different brands with open tablet driver didn't work for me. Sadge.
>>7824891>back/shoulder fatigue from working with screen tabletsThis is purely an Xpiss-pen/huishit issue, Wacom doesn't do that.
>>7824949You can't mix different brands because their drivers override each other. Same happens with Wacom against XP-Pen/Huion/Ugee/Xencelab
>>7824867You are not buying that. You are buying a XP Pen pro 22-24 or a Huin Kanvas pro 22-24. You will replace that Intuos in less than a year. >im poor and a russian subhuman paper and pencil
What is a good /beg/-tier tablet that works on linux? I know Wacom and some Huion models are supported but I'm not sure which specific model to get. Aiming for under or around 100-125 USD.
I know I can be passionate when I'm trying to help people make informed decisions about tablets, but you people that hate Wacom just because it's the superior product are truly the freaks.I got today off, so I'm here all day if anyone needs help with purchases or drivers.
Anyone know if you can use different tablets from same brand at the same time? Obviously not 2 people using at the same time. Like Wacom display + wacom screenless. Or XP-Pen display + XP-Pen screenless (eg Artist 16 Pro Gen 2 with Deco Pro Gen 2). Tho I found thesevenpens' writeup saying you could get it working.
Just a reminder to save your works boys :DInfinite painter was upgraded automatically last night and doesnt open anymoreI installed older version, it works but all my projects are gone :DFortunately am beginner and loss wasnt absolutely massive
>>7818254Coming from an ancient Cintiq, the Xppen's good enough. It's a matter of how much the video's points bother you. The Chinese brands started getting too expensive for the risk some years back which lowers the appeal. Getting one second hand when you need a display tablet quick beats a new Intuos or saving up for a Cintiq. I'll see how I feel once it breaks (4 years now).
>>7818253found an used Xiaomi Pad 5 + pen for 150 bucksis it worth it? previously used a 2022 s6 litequite worried about the pen desu but the tablet seems fine? also bigger screen, would appreciate input
Are there any good aftermarket stands for the kamvas 22 plus? The stock one is fine but something that allows different heights and positions/orientations would be nice. Don't wanna put it on an arm.
>>7826878Watch some reviews, I've heard the pen sucks.
So i got a samsung s10 lite as per op recommendation and the spen iaf is so TRASH. Pressure is so fucking shit my intuous 3 mogs this thing. When im at 17 pixels the lightest marks i can make are 10 fucking pixels. Other than that it performs really well and its accurate tho. And csp runs nicely.
>>7821600Any screen tablet is slippery when drawing. You just need to get used to it. Or buy a screen protector and change your nibs every 2 weeks if you want some grip. Nothing beats screenless and pc in terms of feel and comfort.
>>7818253my xp pen (current gen) is working better than my wacom...
I could emergency buy myself Wacom One Pen 13 Touch due to family pressuring me into buying something for myself with partially their money for Christmas and there being a discount at a store. Should I? Is it the real deal or more like a toy? It doesn't sell with a stand, which makes men nervous about its viability.
>>7828415Its bad, get a screenless or a samsung tabletThe wacom one should cost li,e 150 dollars to be considered good.
>>7821600I'd get a matte screen protector, love drawing on my Galaxy ever since I put one on. Here's a photo of how mine looks when I use it to play retro video games, it's another thing I like about tablets, they're so versatile with their use cases.
Finally got my Intous 4 drawing tablet. I was so relieved that it was not a scam this time and the pen actually came with it.
I can get a huion kamvas 13 for a very good price, any anon using it? How does it compare to pro version is it any good? Schizo please do not reply
>>7828953anon...that looks beat to hell
>>7824159>Schizo is backWhere do you think wacoms are manufactured, samgook?
>>7829112How good is a good price? For me the screen was just too small at 16. Pro has better color accuracy, too, but I switched years ago.
>>782955080 euro, do you mean kamvas 16? screen looks pretty big on it
>>7829112I had an xp pen 13.3 pro and while it was alright a screenless tablet with a larger screen is 5x better.Really screen tablets are a meme, your hand gets in your way, they have much worse ergonomics too. Also the xp pen wasnt accurate depending on how you had the pen tilted. The tilt function was also really shit compared to my intuos 3. Keep in mind the xp pen 13.3 is an old chink tablet, maybe theyve improved by now. I know ur talking about huion but they are the same thing. Personally id go for a used wacom or a screenless xp pen/huion, screen tablets are a meme. They could be good at 22/24 inches i guess.
>>7828808Doesnt it eat through nibs?
>>7829673Yeah I had the 16. I had the space and couldn't really get too much done with smaller sizes, so I upgraded to the 24 and love it. I like rotating from the shoulder/elbow. That is a really good price, though. Is it a gen 3 or standard?
>>7829680No idea about nibs because I use a capacitive stylus, since my tablet doesn't support active styluses.
>>7829818standard i think, although if 16 is too small 13 must be unusable
>>7829870I'm also a big guy that draws from the shoulder. I personally feel that the 13 is much too small, but if you like to draw in small sketchbooks like moleskins or something it shouldn't be a problem.
What's the best device for using shortcuts when drawing on an android tablet that doesn't cost 200€?I'm testing one of those 8bitdo gamepads and while it feels alright I'm wondering what my alternatives are
I know op is a schizo that's never drawn, but this seems like an okay place to ask possiblyAre old asus proarts as good as current ones for color accuracy? I'm starting to do my own art prints and saw an asus proart PA248Q for $40. I don't care about shit like higher refresh rate or resolution, just color
>>7830987a 2nd hand tourbox.
Is there anyone out there with a working Huion tablet that's more than five years old?I have the theory that those shits only have like a 5 year life span and then they just stop working as tablets all together. I been having constant troubles with my kamvas 13 since I bought it in late 2020. This year it was constant static that didn't let me draw for more than a couple of minutes without having to turn on and off the thing. And now it just says "device disconnected" no matter how many different fixes I try. And I'm still yet to find someone with a working tablet that's moren than five years old. But I did find lots of comments of peopleb talking about their drawing tablets now being used only as a second monitor.
>>7830987I have picrel since 2021 and i cant find anything else that could beat it in terms of cramming as much as shortcuts + modifers into one device. I've pretty much only use keyboard for typing in layer names. Everything else is just one hand on the keypad and another hand holding the pen. Takes about 1-2 weeks to build a new muscle memory and trying out the best layout but it was worth it.
>>7831299Whoops. Forgot that if for Android though shit for android you're limited to half the keys and it's not as portable. I have the 8bitdo mini which is fine for on the go stuff
>>7831000that's a steal at that price. should be fine unless it was running 24/7. might just wanna re-calibrate it if you own a calibration device. rent one if you don't.
I've gotten myself an xp pen magic drawing tab this xmas. Its a 1 year old tablet set back to factory setttings.And I'm sort of disapointed with it. I got infinite painter, which was better than Hipaint (procreate clone). The tablet has a tiny but ever so slightly noticeable lag. For some reason it feels like there's line smoothing applied by default I cannot get rid of. Even writing naturally on it gives me horrendous results. I dont know if this makes a lot of sense, but the lines feel straighter than they should be. to get nice curvy and curly lines I have to step out of my way and give it a lot more effort than on paper.Is it a hardware thing ? What the fuck ? How can I fix this ? I think its got a guarantee that expires at the end of this year, should I take advantage of this to get a new one ?Also what the fuck is this retarded new captcha fuckery
>>7831481Try different apps. And make sure to have stabilizers/smoothing off.
>>7818253I'm here to tell you guys. if you are planning to get a tablet don't get the chinese tech. Yes, it's cheap for higher spec. But you will regret it. If you cant afford the popular ones. The ipad 11 A16 with a second hand first gen pencil is more than capable. You get the best drawing app and much stable system compared to the chinese brand. You'll get used to the refresh rate and lower storage. You can easily transfer between non apple devices now. And if you don't like the drawing on glass feeling. Get a paperlike screen and some oem apple pencil nib cover. do not get the chinese tablet unless you need higher spec for gaming/emulation. For art purposes get Apple.
On Wacom, do you need to press a little bit instead of just moving the stylus? This is my first time using a tablet. Is this normal?
Is the wacom movink tab 14 worth it over the 11in wacom tab? I wanna upgrade from my Galaxy tab s7 and I have enough to comfotably get either so price isnt a major concern
>>7832648You can hover over the tablet with the stylus in order to move the cursor but to actually draw you have to press.
>>7833353I mean, the stylus pen touches the screen, but to get a line you need to press a little.
>>7831652Procreate is great for sketching but is still a niche software so there arent enough tutorials. Also lacks a ton of stuff that Clip Studio has like 3D models.Clip Studio requires a subscription and the UI isnt the most mobile friendly.I have an iPad pro and it's FUN to draw on but I usually find myself wishing for a bigger screen and a second monitor for references and youtube help.
>>7832776I just got a movink pad 11 as a birthday gift recently. Haven't had a dedicated tablet in over a decade and I really like it so far. It has its faults being a little underpowered compared to its competitors and not being able to expand the storage. But thats fine with me since I have a dedicated drawing setup for my pc so I didn't need the best specs and storage.Really depends what you do, I think the 14 is a good investment if you need something for more then illustrations later down the line. But I dont think the extra specs and utilities should have it worth twice as much.
>>7831652stfu aaron
ASUS ROG Flow Z13>gaming laptop + drawing tablet hybrid>AMD CPU + GPUorROG Strix G16 (overpowered laptop)>autistic features>240hz>HDRwith Samsung Tablet as the go-to?
>>7836161thinking of getting a stylus for my hp pavilion x360x insteadam i cooked?
I installed like 4 times the drivers for my wacom but the screen still refuses to display my pc
>>7818253One of the things I dislike about digital drawing or drawing in general is the lack of workflow. You create your own over time, but my experience with Rocksmith, which streamlines guitar playing for the video game experience, made me a better player and more aware of my mistakes instead of banging my head against the wall trying to figure things out. I think there should be a digital app with a streamlined workflow or a game that simplifies the process. A way to gamify drawing. That's what we need. I don't have to adapt to Krita; Krita needs to adjust to me.
>>7836602drawing is not for you. do something else.
>>7836602what >>7836920 saidIf you're not creative enough to keep yourself motivated (which IS a skill for anything you want to do in life) why even do it? Do you know what the scientific method is? maybe you ought to slow down and go through that.
>>7821044>Huion KamvasWhich one? I sometimes check out Chang's blog that reviews tablets constantly and I always see him test the wobble and nearly every tablet is noticeable. Maybe you have some stability enabled in the software?
>>7837371The only one that seems to lack it is pic (XPpen 24 second gen 4k) but it's too big/out of budget for me
>>7831220I've got an older gen kamvas 19 from 2016 or 2017, don't remember the exact year since it was either December or January when I got it. It still works but I had to replace the pens in 2022 since they had those shitty chargeable pens that couldn't hold their charge at all after 4 years. Currently waiting on my 27 kamvas pro to ship since it's on its last legs though.
>>7836927Fun fact no one does science like that. New scientific method: start with a hypotheses > form your ideal conclusion > try to bait investors to pay you for an experiment that proves your ideal conclusion > if experiment proves you wrong say it's inconclusive and ask for more money. Repeat.
My Kamvas Pro 19 finally arrived, i'm gonna need a bigger desk for it all. I just unboxed and started getting used to it. I'm gonna need a bigger desk for it all. Well my first impression was the pen. it changed completely again. At this point it's indistinguishable from the Wacom pro line. The nibs are thin and very snugly fit into the case, they don't really move, don't have a give and wobble around while you draw. The initial activation force is basically not there, the pressure response is very smooth and controlled, both taper on and taper off. The older huions had a rough taper off when releasing the pressure, it's gone. without even tweaking the curve it's perfect out of the box. The thin pen is anodized aluminum, the regular pen is plastic that feels premium, with a Wacom-style eraser and a third button. The screen isn't what I expected. It's calibrated to accurately represent sRGB which looks boring, but the correct kind on boring. If you ever worked on OLED you'd know that it makes you underrepresent the colors and contrast. this is safe. The rough grippy coating doesn't have a rainbow splash effect, instead it has a subtle blur to everything. After working on a smooth Samsung it's slightly disappointing but probably the best way of doing it. Touch works, the quality depends on the application. Windows itself doesn't have palm rejection, but Clip Studio Paint has it's own touch handling, so as long as you're working in CSP the touch is golden, you're going to love it, just like an enormous iPad. Photoshop doesn't have that feature but thankfully there's a hardware button that disables touch, you can easily switch it off when you don't need it. More to come, I just started using it. And I'm already happy.
>>7837371>>7837372>and nearly every tablet is noticeable. It's only noticable if you're looking for it. Wobble is inherent to the EMR technology, cannot be eliminated, and it's not significant enough to disrupt the actual drawing. When you are actually drawing a picture, rather than trying to benchmark the tablet you are A. not drawing straight 45 degree lines with a rulerB. using a stabilizer and the stabilizers eliminate it entirely>Bu bu but Wacom Pro Wacom built the stabilizer into the drivers. the only reason you don't see the wobble is because they are cheating.
>>7836161Both sounds like a bad idea, but there's something you need to know about the Samsung, and OLED. OLED fucks you up, it's not fit for the content production. A. it's oversaturated. I worked on a samsung tablet for years. When a picture looks normal on an overblown OLED it looks dull on a normal screen. B. OLED crushes the dark values HARD. One time I was commissioned to draw a girl swimming at night and boy was that a fucking nightmare. OLED completely fucked up the dark values and the entire scene was dark, so I had to color it basically blind.Samsung is a decent tablet with a decent pen, but man, you gotta be wary of the OLED, they simply aren't accurate. Imagine trying to build a house with an incorrect tape ruler.
I got a medium wacom intuos pro for Christmas. This is my first tablet. Should I avoid putting my wrist on the tablet when drawing? I would like to keep this thing nice. I have no excuse to not draw now.
>>7839105>I would like to keep this thing nice. I have no excuse to not draw now.No such thing. You will fuck it up, think of it as an eraser, if you use it it goes.
>>7838504>It's calibrated to accurately represent sRGB which looks boringUpdate, I was wrong. It actually has a DCI-P3 profile, i just didn't know about. It's great.
i like to check these threads every couple of years just to see if people are still arguing about the same bull shit. you niggers need to get a proper hobby. you have been doing this for almost a decade
>>7839635Anything to do with screens and monitors is a forever argument because there is no perfect monitor. Every panel type and every solution has it's tradeoffs. >ips doesn't have perfect blacks>OLED crushes blacks>va has shit angles>smooth glass glares>matte glass blurs the imageThere is no perfect monitor, at no price point and if you're autistic you can't be happy with any screen
I'm considering getting an Intuos Pro Large, any other alternatives?I don't think I really need a screen, so that's some money saved. I don't dislike the idea of getting the medium one, but I'm not sure about the size.
>>7839105missed your post before posting mine (>>7841650), how do you like the medium one, would you say the size is good?
>>7841656I'm pre-/beg/ so I don't know how much my opinion matters but I like the size desu
>>7824145I got my intuos PTH-851 used for 50 and a pro pen for 30, and they absolutely slap. Just checked eBay, and you can get the tablets with a regular pen used for roughly 60-100 USD, depending on what size you want. Anything above 2048 pressure sensitivity is a gimmick, especially when it comes to Wacom products, though. I've had a few different tablets, Huion, Gaomon, etc. The pens sucked.
>>7841650>>7841957Samefag with the PTH-851, which is an older large model. Any other manufacturers are shit, it's all cope. I regret wasting money on the other tablets. They weren't bad tablets, but the pens were horrible. Too light, no grip, and they were flimsy as heck. Don't buy into the Chinese tablet trap just because is 50 percent cheaper. Buy a used tablet instead.
>>7821600Get one of these felt nibs. Yes the s-pen can use wacom one nibs and it feels like a cheat. I've been using these on a normal glass screen and its surprisingly grippy. Paperlike screens are too finnicky to maintain and they absolutely leave scrathes the more you use. I've been using a felt nib for 2 month and it still works fine, it gets a little bit grippier in fact as the fibers unfurl
Not sure why people are saying anything above 2k pressure is useless, I'm using 12k now and it's a game changer. I can get much more variation in line and opacity and I don't have to press like a gorilla to get max pressure which was causing me pain before after drawing for a few hours
>>7842116The truth is that every single pen+tablet+nib combination has a different feel. Even two of the same pen can draw differently (speaking from experience)
>>7841650>>7841656Everybody I know who uses a large says it's too big and they only use a fraction of it to actually draw. So either go for a medium or buy yourself a screen tablet. Pro Large is 500$ bucks, for a black rectangle with magnets, it's just unreasonable.
>>7842189I've heard mixed feelings on screen tablets, so not 100% sure about those
>>7842189I've only heard the opposite, its more space for broad strokes and doesn't feel too cramped
PTH-651 for $130 no box, orPTH-660 for $210 full set with screen protectorermmmmm, help?
>>7842280Broad strokes are more difficult, they require you to control your shoulder, medium tablet allows you to get by with just elbow. >>7842264>I've heard mixed feelings on screen tablets, so not 100% sure about thoseLow end and old screen tablets have more downsides than benefits. The current top offerings? They are a HUGE benefit. See this >>7838504 It's 800$ and you were thinking about spending 500$ on a black plastic rectangle. The thing is perfect. It's a 19" 4k tablet with a calibrated IPS display, and touch navigation. The pen is at least as good as the wacom pro line. At least.
>>7842349Why would I spend 500 on the newest one if I can get the previous (and basically the same) version for 200.Saves me 600 bucks in comparison to the screen one. I feel like every drawing lesson always talks about using your shoulders and elbows so I'm not sure if thats actually a problem or more of a meme. But I can see how it might still be too large, I'll check out some reviews of the medium one to see how people use it, it might be a better choice
>>7842359IDK, you do you but I just don't consider used goods, you never know what you're getting. Maybe it's busted, maybe the USB port is loose, maybe the pen is fucked, it's someone else's scraps and it's still overpriced. 200$ for a screenless? Why? there's literally nothing expensive inside. >elbows Actually essential. If you aren't an artist you only have fine control of your fingers and that's too small range of motion. >shoulder Relevant to drawing and painting traditionally on an easel. If you intend to become a trad artist and draw on large paper or paint you'll need it. If you wanna focus on digital art and work on a tablet you may skip your shoulder day.
>>7842359Just look at this and tell me it's worth 200$ after somebody busted a nut over it. An empty fucking PCB. Sure Huion pens are SLIGHTLY worse, they are also 50$ new. That's 150$ you keep.
should I wait to get my sister a 27 wacom pro in hopes that they release newer models next year, or get it now during a sale?her birthday is in April.
>>7842429Wacom Pro 27 is already packed with all the best tech there's simply nothing to improve. If they release a new one next year it's just gonna be more of the same. So yeah if it's a gift for an important person and you have the money for it actually do it, buy her the current Wacom Pro. If you were buying for yourself I would tell you to get a huion because it's much smarter. but the gifts are different, you don't gift your family the budget options buy her the current Wacom.
im gonna buy a 2025 16 cintiq soon and im pretty excited>dude just get an ipadive tried drawing with an ipad/apple pen combo before and i honestly hated it. the smooth glass felt like absolute ass to draw on. and i dont really care about "portability", i draw at my desk 99.9% of the time. the .1% is if i get an idea while im out and ill do a thumbnail sketch on mobile ibispaint with my finger lol.>>7841650ive had the pro medium model for several years with no issues, its pretty much a perfect screenless. i never use the shortcut buttons though, and the touch dial is awful so i just have it turned off. wish they just made a version with no shortcut keys desu, i feel like theyre a thing of the past at this point
>>7842615Non pro cintiq is a mistake.Either go wacom pro, or huion. The regular cintiq is worse and costs more.
>>7842673i dont have any need for 4k resolution or touch though. and ive always thought of wacom as lasting way longer than the other brands which is why im fine paying a bit more if itll actually last 5+ years without shitting itself. i had a huion display in the past and it felt like cheap chinese caca, i ended up reselling it
I didn't touch my wacom in a few months and it's stopped working. The light turns on when I plug it in but it doesn't register the pen. I don't think I wore it out because I hardly used it that much. It wasn't second hand.
>>78426764k is nice you'll be staring at it dead on, not arm's length. Touch is really fucking good if you're working in CSP, not every software supports it but come on CSP is king. And then there are other things like the pen. The pen that comes with the cheap wacom is actually more ass than the chinese pen and the glass is thicker so there's more gap. >i had a huion display in the past and it felt like cheap chinese caca, i ended up reselling itThey used to suck but they changed HUGELY. Between Huion and the cheap Wacom Huion offers higher quality. At this point they compare to the pro series.
>>7842747ok lend me 2k and ill get the pro 17 instead kek
Buying used drawing tablets in krautland is fucking impossible.Everyone wants to sell their scratched to shit tablets for absurd amounts so the only decent option is to buy a new one or some form-factor that you might not like.
>>7842680Could be that some humidity seeped in and rusted the pcb inside. I had my xp-pen in its box for 6 months and apparently some really tiny ants moved in right inside the tablet. Absolutely fucked the board but the light is still on just like yours
Redpill me on Bosto.
Is the $27 premium of the Wacon One Medium over the Wacom One S worth it?
>>7843640Absolutely. The small tablets are dogshit and completely unusable. The medium are perfect for most people
