If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifeLast: >>7834362
>>7838206Anon, you're allowed to draw whatever you want no matter your skill levelwhat matters is the love behind what you drew, not the skill level of it. Soul >>>>> skill. If it wasn't like that, AI would be better than 99% of artists.
deer
No refs this time. The ear...>>>>7838183Bully makes people better at life in general. >>7838207>what matters is the love behind what you drewOnce you get something you loved out of your mind and in the front of your drawing, the initial feeling of satisfation will be so strong you will become addict, and even aroused at high quantities. So yeah. Dopamine is the best way to fixate knowledge and addiction into your mind.
>>7838218Also, if I ever forget it again I want you ainon to punch me hard in the face.
More Morpho>>7837535NP
>>7838226
>>7838228Are you using CSP? If so what brush is this? Looks like one of the pencils but I can't seem to make mine have proper opacity changes based on pen pressure
>>7838230Not him, but it does like this one a lot to me.https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1844622
>>7838171
>>7838230not him but I asked before, it's Kyle's ultimate 2B pencil at size 7, it's from the megapack here https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop-brushes.html?
OP, don't be lazy damnit.
>>7838233>>7838237Thanks guys
>>7838228>>7838230>>7838237>>7838245Brush:https://mega.nz/folder/bcpGVLLL#eU6KU5t1epZS35in1qHfkA
>>7838218very nice
The beaststhe werewolves
>Finally weekend and long weekend so I can draw my christmas waifuslop >Get sickREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>get sick when run out of any other excuses only to not draw
>>7838273AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7838235Anon, I know you want to mog me but it's not nice. please stop using my own art to mog me.
>>7838276ok
would i improve faster by doing a bunch of quick drawings focusing on the things i need to improve on or by focusing on drawing one drawing focusing on the drawing as a whole?
Already regret not putting the base colors on different layers
>>7838289Do both. Make a lot of quick/loose drawings of the subject you're studying, until you get track of things and later you attempt at one or two drawings with more detail, taking note of what you lack. Repeat.
>>7838201
Finished it, it's not perfect but I really enjoyed drawing it! https://files.catbox.moe/y8cfco.png
Werechihuahua
>>7838276I think he want to give you some crit anon. That's his way of doing it.>>7838289Depend. For example, gesture, hand, feet, etc. You oviously want to draw a bunch of them. However, when it come to value, color, perspective and composition, they are naturally longer, focus on the drawing as a whole.
>>7838315epic
>>7838315Very cool
I think that's as far as I get tonight
>>7838312Glad you took some of that other anons advice...even if you didn't understand what he was doing
>>7838276fore arms dont bend, legs are small and 2d >signedexternal tool assistanceEver.SingleTime.
I've been copying Morpho's simplified forms for a few days now and goddamn does this guy draw some ugly ass faces. I love everything else in the book but the faces holy shit it's like all of them are inbred
>>7838389yeah they look like aliens or something. i always advise people not to copy his heads
>>7838316>>7838317:)>>7838389I know right? But you don't need to do a 1:1 copy
>>7838389It's an acquired taste for the faces for sure
>>7838403You're probably right. Feels like I might curse myself forever if I try to learn drawing faces based on Morpho's idea of them>>7838406Altering them is a bit beyond my current skill level. I consider myself a pre-beg since I started copying the book only three or four days ago and all I really want from Morpho's is to get some understanding of anatomy and to improve my observational drawings. Here's an example of my attempts
>>7838416>exampleGood job anon.
>>7838421sorry to bother purpleanon but can i get some advice on this underdrawing for a frog?>ref: https://www.flickr.com/photos/129283672@N03/16262951125/in/album-72157658871207879
>>7838436>my process>>7838322It's good enough anon. Don't sweat over it. Now draw it.
>>7838436The good thing about drawing small, smooth animal like frog is that they are very forgiving. You can be 50% off and they still look lika frog.
>>7836101drew this character again. will work on those a bit over the weekend(btw I'm still folded into a naked dogeza begging people for guidance)
>>7838453Foot is wrongToe should be facing up
>>7838453The toes is in the oposite position.
>>7838455Big toe** should be facing up
>>7838455>>7838457>>7838458how come I still make basic mistakes like these after studying figures for a year? and some anon called me an /adv/ in the previous thread lmao
>>7838459sakimichan drew 6 fingers on a hand once
>>7838201My visual ability is so low i can't copy even with this amount of lines(chud itsover emoji)Like the left side of the left eyes from the viewerits angles are differentWhat should i do
>>7838479Can you draw without all the bullshit angle lines anon?
>>7838482I can't as my observation ability is shit
>>7838479train your skills by copying something simpler
>>7838489It's the chicken and the egg problem isn't it. The obvious thing to do is making more copy to improve your obsevation. They can be good, or bad. Do a hunred of these and you'll start getting good at them.
>>7838491>>7838493Thanks guys will try doing more, and more simpler ones.
>>7838459happens to the best of us. its not a big deal
>>7838459>>7838462Sakimichan draw Cloud from Final Fantasy's penis with the ridge upward once.
>>7838479Stop copying lines and start copying shapes
fox mommy>>7838212beautifull>>7838315i love his expressions>>7838511looks very good
>>7838443is top left in that image what you start with?
>>7838523Yes, to block out the proportion.
>>7838514peak until penis
>>7838513Thanks artchad but my mental cone of vision is very small and i can't see more than 1 line at a time but I don't know how to get better. Maybe this is from my mental illness I wish i can get better. Can you give me any method to get my senses or memory for drawing better? I can't even imagine or remember a simple cube if i don't plot it on paper. I genuinely feel retarded.
I was sent here from /adv/. How should I exercise exactly? Should I just draw from reference or try meddling with construction shenanigans? Picrel I drew with the circle construction trying to mimic Kubo's style. I drew some other stuff but I deleted it since it looked so bad and it seems like on the drawing tablet my lines are less stable and look like shit. Also is there a way to get smooth lines like some of those professional artists have on their art? Is it the pens I use on Krita? I'll send some of my hand paper drawn "art" that I drew from reference.
>>7838534The hand drawn one
>>7838436
>>7838528:DDthasnkies i have a penis free one too <3
>>7838545how long have you been drawing?
>>7838548seriously for a little more than a yearbut unseriously for years
I decided to finish it for the first time by painting it
>>7838549so why are you better than me?>>7838180
>>7838554because you didnt draw anything since 2022
>>7838207again, i just want to be good too, im just ashamed that i wasted time not improvingwhat if i was right and people are naturally better than me?
>>7838556sure but before i had like at least 1 year of serious practice, daily 5 to 4 hours practice of fundies...so why didnt i improve theni couldnt draw this >>7838514i did drawabox, perspective made easy, keys to drwaing so why not
>>7838554I'M GONNA SAY IT I'M GONNA SAY THE T WORD
>Left out of the OP collage once again. Fuck you up the ass so hard your asshole is turned inside out!
>>7838560Are you retarded?
>>7838553Close enough. Too much chicken scratch though.
ahhh monke>>7838554bc i draw atleast 3 hours per daysince last yearand people screaming at me in /beg/ helped me get better too>what if i was right and people are naturally better than me?and? doesnt mean you should give up> did drawabox, perspective made easy, keys to drwaing so why notnow did you have time where you drew freely for the fun of it?bc no matter how many boxes you draw, if you dont have fun , its useless, also find a style that fits you and makes you actually have fun drawing, this realistic style isnt for everyone and thats okay
>>7838561im convinced its a bot atp
>>7838564R u?
>>7838565no i didnt really draw for fun, see my pics, think there is a hope for me to get better or noti wanan draw like this boards.4chan.org/ic/thread/7837058
>>7838557Improvement doesn't come instantly anon, people improve at their hobbies at different paces. You shouldn't be ashamed that you can't draw at the level of professionals.you just have to keep drawing and having fun, and before you know it, you'll be at a level you're proud of.so just keep trying, ok? I know it feels bad when you can't really get whats in your imagination onto the canvas, but if you just keep trying and keep being stubborn and not quitting, you'll get there.
>>7838577BUT I LOSTi tried so hard and in the end it didnt even matter...but really, i tried and had to watch everyone be better than me
What should I draw?
>>7838577>Improvement doesn't come instantly anonOnly if you’re a retard. Once someone tells you how to do it right then you should be doing it right and since there are books to learn how to do it right there’s no reason not to be great from the start.
>>7838568Fuck you nigger faggot you’re a bot.
>>7838372>signedWhat does this mean?
>>7838580Then why are you still posting here being a /beg/?
>>7838453I've checked out this sakimichan you were talking about and his work is highly unappealing to me. I am so fucking embarrassed about that foot
>>7838453>begging people for guidanceIf you mean in general I have some thoughts from your posts in previous threads. It's more about the learning process and finding a way forward than about art, though.First of all, it's all too vague. Your goal to draw whatever you want can't give you direction. Break it down into smaller goals so you can focus on one thing. Even figures is too vague. Same for when asking for advice. People like your figures and think they look good, if you just ask how to improve they won't know what to tell you other than to keep drawing.What specifically do you not like about your figures? What specifically do you want to know how to improve? Usually if you can say it clearly enough you no longer need advice because you can just look it up.Second, I recommend actually trying the advice people give you. I saw several posts that I thought were really good but you dismissed them.One was to try using different brushes. Another was to draw something to completion. If you are stuck in a rut mentally, it's best to shake things up. Doing the same task in a different way or learning/drawing something different are opportunities to do so.Aside from that, I think that there is a lot more information that you could be sharing if you want good advice. What you have studied and how. A video of you drawing in real time. Things like that.
>>7838578You haven't lost at anything anon, this isn't a competiton. We all do this for fun, and you're just a little behind is all. You just have to keep drawing to improve, and not with the mindset to improve, but to have fun. It's that simple.>>7838580even with guidance you won't get better instantly. You can know the techniques, how to do it, the workflows and such, but you still need experience putting those to paper. It's like comparing a doctor who just finished university to one with 1 year of actual experience working in a hospital. They both know the same things, but one had time to actually apply the knowledge they both studied, so he's better because of that.
>>7838577SO AGAIN, DO YOU GUYS THINK I COULD LEARN TO DRAW LIKE THIS ?>>7838592But it is, I have low self esteem, i dont wanna take 10 years to draw like someone learns in 3 years.See what i mean, i wanna be goodin 2020-2021 i did was grinding fundies daily, daily for 7 months but i never really improved....i got depressed, i havent actually drawn a single thing ever sicne 2022
>>7838453You need to draw huge breasts.
>>7838596Fundies are meant to complement your art, not replace it. you training for 7 months was useless, and wouldn't make you improve at all. You can draw like pic attached, but you have to actually draw, and you will take time to get good like that.i'll just say this once: To get good at drawing, you have to... actually draw.If you frequent the thread's discord, you'll know I draw almost everyday for hours, and I have a life outside of it. I work 12 hours a day, and I still find time for drawing and improving, alongside taking care of my life. So you shouldn't have a problem doing so either.
>>7838591thanks for an earnest reply. I think one of the hurdles I have with communicating my issues is a language barrier. I can't properly explain what issues I have with drawing. I'll attatch a few drawings I like to this post, maybe it'll clear things up somewhat.>One was to try using different brusheswhich brushes? I don't know with brushes are good for what, how people pick their brushes. Don't know anything besides hard round with no line weight>it's best to shake things upI'm thinking of studying persepective next year, seems like something that's universally helpful. what's a good book to follow?>A video of you drawing in real timethat's an interesting idea. though I doubt anything would be willing to watch me wasting an hour trial/erroring construction
>>7838600so you think i fucked myself over not actually drawing, i guess that makes sense i was just so ashamed to not draw good...what should i do to get better and yeah i have like more free time, i just wanna be goodlike this >>7838596
copies
>>7838611Just draw, retard.
>>7838453Appealchad you are really technically good but do you have a goal besides "being good at drawing"?Some porn doujin idea, a OC you want drawn, a webcomic?I feel like that is the thing holding you down.
>>7838613>This good in a yearI want talent too.
>>7838621everything looks a lot better when zoomed out
>>7838613So not drawing everyday gets me these gains? I will not copy your method anon.
>>7838599or huge cockspreferably both>>7838588>sakimichanthats some uncanny stuff right there>>7838608>how people pick their brushes.i always lurk for art and if i like the lines/coloring method enough, im hunting down whatever the brush is. and then see if i like it
>>7838634i do wish i drew more
>even Mitch fucking Leuwee is too much for me yeah bro let me just combine these 3D shapes together perfectly and make a wireframe as if I'm viewing a subd wireframe in blender
>>7838613how are you so good, how long have you been drawing?
>>7838608>language barrierI will keep that in mind. You can try using both your native language and english together if you want.If you can't explain, showing is fine too. But I don't get much from just the images. Are those your drawings or just drawings you want to emulate?What parts of the images do you like? The right one I can see some similarities to what I've seen you draw in terms of shape.>which brushes?It doesn't matter. I struggled for months to reduce my sketch time. One day I tried drawing with pen and paper instead of digital, and suddenly it just made sense and I was able to draw faster.The point is that when you do the same things in the same way it gets harder to learn.Try anything, as long as it's different. Draw your lines as slowly as possible. Don't use lines at all and only draw with values. Draw plants or clouds or buildings. Things like that can work too.>what's a good perspective book to follow?I've only read "perspective made easy", but I do recommend it, it's a short read, starts out very basic and practical, and gives exercises at the end of the chapter so you don't have to think up ways to practice.>I doubt anything would be willing to watch me wasting an hour trial/erroring constructionI would watch it, at least. Even if someone only speeds through it, there might be things someone will notice.Another example of mine is that when I started out I focused heavily on line quality, so I used only very fast flicking strokes and would repeatedly draw and undo them until I got it right. It made my lines look great at the cost of a lot of time. But I started watching better artists draw and they don't actually draw that quickly, and when they do it's not all the time. I realized I was using stroke speed as a crutch, and it's actually a necessary growing pain to go through the phase of wobbly lines.
>>7838608>>7838649
Posting my ornate twink studyStill haven't touched the hands
>7 month fail poster still being nodraw /beg/ after 3 years. SERVE YOU RIGHT
>>7838661>>7838649
>>7838664so you think i could be good? im just insecure that on my 7th months all the begs i started with improved fasteri have the problem i dont like being a beginner, given this happens with many hobbies, i wouldnt call it a drawing problem but a me problemmy problem is my attitude, right?
>>7838613does tracing help?
>>7838533Do the first chapter or so of Fun with a Pencil Loomis is great at easing you into the idea of constructing out of shapes rather than lines. https://westcedarstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Fun-With-a-Pencil.pdf
>>7838673wtf is that sausage
>>7838679can you give me advice?>>7837058>>7838613can you give me advice?>>7838613
>>7837993Continuation of exercise
>>7835265PAGE 11 WIP. I'm kinda busy right now, I don't know if I'm going to finish this one today.. Doesn't matter how fast you do it, it's never fast enough.>>7835268THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!>>7835273>thanks anon! love the amputee stuff but not like in a weird wayThank you!!! Well, amputees need love, care and fantasy time as anyone else I think>>7835278>merry Christmas to you too peril! pleased with where the comic is going!Really? Thank you!!! I'll try to keep this one going I have ideas that shouldn't go to waste. I'll try to do it faster.>>7838226Wow, you're really going for it, you're incredible Purps>>7838421>>7838406>>7838315GAD-DAAMM!!! You're death mogging the whole board!>>7838453Another art piece going to my Appealchad collection>>7838514I really like her face-hair design!
>>7838665drawing for like three yearsstarted frantically drawing for do art daily since the end of augustgot used to drawing daily and here we arepicrel is my three year progression
>>7838685youre good, i saved your art in my inspiration folder...can you please take a look at my problem? i know people have told me im just depressed still>>7837058heres what happened
>>7838611Drawing more usually helps.>>7838635>preferably bothDon't we all?>>7838661>>7838685Looks great, anon. Got any more?>>7838682You're tackling way to many things at once. Maybe roll a bit back and practice the individual elements (eyes, mouth, nose) and perspective with basic forms. It should be easy to apply that to faces after a while.
>>7838704Senseifag?
>>7838694>>7838704so you guys think i could be good or not? why and how?
>>7838707Nope. You'll never be good. Unlucky!
>>7838709why not then?
>>7838705I guess, yeah? I'm suprised you remember me.
>>7838679Thanks!
>HOW YOU SO GOOD HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN DRAWING>2 weeks>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>7838714to be fair no one has told me 2 weeks
>>7838710Because instead of drawing you cry and plead for the magic formula that'll instantly turn you into a good artist. You have the permabeg gene. It's over.
>>7838717>>7838718ok fine ill draw but I WILL NOT do like pages of boxes and circles and lines only this dayi need to get better lines but i also need to actually drawwhat should i use?
>>7838720Just fucking draw. Holy shit it's not a hard concept to grasp.
>>7838704Yeah waitIdk if nsfw is allowed
>>7838728i was drawing poses like here >>7838613the april thing on my notebook moments ago of hot women but i dont have clean lines... i make the same line like 5 times or chicken scratch....
>>7838704why did you leave teacheranon and why did you come back? also welcome back
I've noted that all said permabegs and schizos have the same behavior, they seem like silly dumb simpletons, I can't see any intelligence when they talk
>>7838741drawchad god spotted
>>7838741sorry im fapping right now so im ai editing porn...
I'm starting to get bored with portraits and copying for study, maybe I should go back to cartoon stuff. been a while since I stretched my toon legs.
>>7838737Thanks, anon.There's lots of little reasons. I've never really left, though, I just don't post all the time. At some point, I have to draw more than I post.That, and I'm bad at posting my sketches online. I usually just like to draw more, but I've been drawing traditionally for a while now, painting included. Wanted to draw digitally again, which is nice, but also be more active again. I'm still bad at painting, but it's getting better.
Just draw for "Fun" 1404Stream 174: https://youtu.be/4alIz5WC7N4
Just boughteded a Staedtler mechanical pencil, now my drawings will definitely improve
>>7838689youre problem is that youre not doing this -> >>7838764
Does anyone have a decent video example of construction drawing? It just refuses to click to me from books/pictures and I assume copying everything line by line is probably not the most effective long term method
>>7838704>perspective with basic formsSomething like this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3hez9vWZyM
>>7838592This is done for fun by talented scum who can draw what they like, you are rotten people who hate others, those who are different from your skill, skin color, race, etc.
>>7838763draw a dolphin
>>7838774A dolphin vagina you say? I seem the pictures, they do look nice, but is a very odd request. I will try my hand at it.
>>7838778I mean the whole dolphin, you pervert.
>>7838765THERE GOES MY HERO
>I've drawn so many things, but I still have mistakes/problems/difficultyTalented creatures won't tell you this, but you're not an artist,
>>7838765Nice warmup, what are you going to draw now?
>>7838711You are the most talented here.
>>7838784>i lifted weights 10 minutes a day but still in bad shape
>>7838788Ironically even 10 minutes of weight lifting can actually keep you healthy. Even 10 minutes of drawing can net you some marginal gains. These schizos are genuine nodraws.
love is in the air wawawaa wa
>>7838791sex
>>7838788Worked for pewdipie.>Doesnt take into account that genetics/metabolism/muscle/proportions (aka talent) insertions are a huge fucking deal in powerlifting, bodybuilding or just general athletics.Come on.
>>783878810 minutes long, a year, in a year many scumbags have achieved good and very good characters, and I can’t even draw a normal fucking head from a reference, I forgot to finish drawing the fucking hair, I placed the fucking hand incorrectly, even though I looked closely at it>>7838553
I took me a fucking hour to draw this counting for all the times I would just get u and walk around my house contemplating my life's choices and it still looks like shit and my fingers hurt already
>>7838780So you want draw me embracing and loving the whole dolphin, whispering sweet nothings in her ears, caressing her slick grey blue skin. Slowly moving my hips while she allows me to take her completely, together as we move the ocean waves move us? I'm not sure how comfortable I feel with this request, anon, you are an odd girl that is for sure.
>>7838795lmao
Can one see appeal in their own drawing? Everything i draw looks soulless no matter what I do and i'm wondering if its a matter of it being made by me or not.>PYW!It's a yes or no question friendo.
>>7838800Pyw
after months of floundering i finally have enough inspiration to want to draw but the tingling in my fingers from neuropathy is driving me nuts we will persevere
>too tired to draw>no motivationnever thought i'd be the one to cry about this. but i didnt draw the past two days and i feel no motivation to either. tomorrow ill try again
>>7838800yes...
>>7838785I can't draw...
>>7838683thanks :DDits yae miko from genshinalso since u posted this wip-thingie, what does your progress actually look like?i forgot if u had posted it before>>7838704based>>7838729i dig ur style>>7838780if he doesnt weant it , i will>>7838800yes
>>7838767my problem is that im anxious, what if i draw but never get better
>>7838218>Bully makes people better at life in generalWould you feel better if you, you rubbish, had your arms broken and you couldn't even draw your own identical crap?
These creatures don't even hide their hatred anymore.
Its not good but at least i had fun.
>>7838218>Bully makes people better at life in general. Critique is not bullying.
As a beginner(day 2) is better to just keep drawing from reference or try learning construction bs?
>>7838794>i forgotYeah retard because you're not even paying attention to what you're doing, you want to rush for no reason
How to draw hats?>>7838812>you rubbishYou made me blush a bit. But now you mention. That's something that worries me a bit at times. How would you ainons react if for some reason, like an accident, you had your arms destroyed after all this practice? How artists normally cope with that?>>7838816Could be. Could not be. Depends on context.
someone give me assurance that if I copy all of the drawings in Preston Blair's book, redraw in different angles and such that I'll make it and not have to bother making box grids and autistic shit like that to learn how to draw convincing 3D forms after Preston I'll move onto Loomis' FWAP and FDFAIW, then more advanced books like Hogarth, Bridgman etc, copying and deconstructing
>>7838813HAHAHA
silly gay drawing
>>7838820I try and observe, I couldn’t notice it all until the very end because I have no fucking talent, I hate drawing, I’m tired of everything>>7838821You're a creature without empathy, that's why you find it funny, your crap is praised, that's why you've developed a lousy pride, a sarcastic reference to the benefits of bullying, rottenness, that others here don't feel very good about what I'm saying about them.
>>7838829Have you considered following a writter career though. You're wrong but you writes kinda well. >I hate drawingStop so.
>>7838763I'd love to see more of your work, it's wonderful, anon.>>7838767I'll be the first person to say, my method is not for everybody. It can be rather boring sometimes, but it works for me.>>7838772It's a bit technical, but yes. It looks decent.>>7838786Not by a mile, there's plenty of people on here that are better than me.>>7838808I love your sketches, anon. They are very lively and fun.
How to stop drawing stiff lines?
>>7838839talk to your doctor if it's been more than four hours
>>7838829them doom on you
>>7838842Huh?
>>7838809trust me i feel like this too especially lately, but not drawing isnt the answer
>>7838846It's pretty much impossible to draw stiff lines if you're drawing for this amount of time. The correct answer is that you're going to stop doing it naturally as you warm your drawing. So just draw more.
>>7838808>since u posted this wip-thingie, what does your progress actually look like?>i forgot if u had posted it beforeThank you!!!! I posted a WIP/process page a while ago (picrel). I don't remember if you were around that time, maybe lurking. I'm too self-aware that what I do is unfair, because I use a VERY small sized canvas to fit an average of 5 panels. To do a comic like this you should use at least a 3000px canvas FOR EVERY PANEL lol. I can only do extremely simplified figures, expressions and "backgrounds".. -1st- rough sketch, just enough to visualize the dialogues, -2nd- ultra simplified lineart, hard round brush no "line-weight" at all..-3rd- I roughly close all the gaps in the lines, duplicate that lineart layer drop it down and bucket fill with a few colors (3 or 4, now I'm using just monochrome variations of pink).. and -4th- I select that whole color filled layer and I just use a couple of layer with 20% and 30% opacity (solid pink) to throw some simple shadows, lights. For backgrounds I do the same, no lineart, just a couple of layers below throwing simple hard shadows to give a "hint" of the environment, a door, a wall, a window, a cell, a bed, or maybe just a blank space is enough. Lastly I paste some onomatopoeia text that I use all the time, text balloons and that's it.People are right to call it shit, but it's the only way to do it. I'm not the only one doing this lame lightspeed-fast "webcomic" process, many such cases out there, but I don't monetize this at all, this is just some fun shit post xD
>>7838835I don't know fucking English, I don't know what to write, I have no fantasy or experience, I need to draw properly, understand these fucking anime heads, I want at least something to bring me joy, so that I'm not apathetic, I don't know, sometimes everything seems so disgusting that I don't want to draw people
>>7838854Find something that brings joy, drawing is not for you
>>7838856Are you writing this because I draw crap or because of my attitude?
I wish i could ask russianon for advice but im pretty sure he hates me so rip>>7838830mogs me>>7838814rightmost mogs me>>7838683optimal text to image ratio
>>7838837>7838772 >It's a bit technical, but yes. It looks decent.I see, thank you. Do you have other video/book recommendations for basic form perspective?
Done (?)Still getting filtered by hair
>>7838858Because you don't like drawing and you're not good, so what's the point? Someone that isn't good can get better if he at least likes what he's doing
>>7838852Dude. Just make a blog already. You should definitely start archiving your work.
>>7838863So, I wasted a year drawing? Was it for nothing that I almost grasped the basics of academic art? Was it for nothing that I bought a tablet? Was it for nothing that I colored that yellow-haired slut? Thank you...
>>7838870I don't know, i expend 2 years going to the gym and i hated almost every second, i didn't got any compliment aside from my family, so yeah it was for nothingLife is like that, we do things for nothing all the time
>>7838870Even bad experiences are still experiences. You shall come to understand it someday, my dear.
>>7838851I've been drawing for 2 days so
>>7838875What family? Do you have a wife and kids? Which local anon are you?>>7838877Bad experiences drive you crazy, you don't want anything and you hate everything, especially when the bastards add fuel to the fire>my dearGo to hell, you snide worm.
Jesus why is this worm still here
>continues voluntarily doing something he hates, which earns him neither money nor praise, and lashes out at anyone who suggests he should stop for his own goodThe ego is an incredible thing
>>7838881My mother, my father and my brother. I did it because i was expecting girls to like me more, but it didn't work. So yeah waste of time, but this is life.
>>7838861Honestly, everything besides drawabox is good. Besides sketching random shapes and such, I'd recommend this video, if you want something a bit more visual.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1B4e2UbQOc
Why does no one respond?
>>7838886Did you want some whore so much that you went to the gym to waste your energy? Did you trust the normies? Well, at least I hope you're healthier. I think you understand me. I can't do anything else. I want to draw properly and I hate that I can't do it.
>>7838795Nice animu, keep it up anon
Do you ever enter a retard mode and just paint colours without looking at the source anymore. SAD
>>7838893Thank you
should I keep making these or am I not really learning anything? it's an odd method that doesn't feel like drawing, is all, but it's really fun to do and I like how it looks
>>7838901Yeah i fell for the sig stuff, my genetics are pretty bad for musclesI don't even believe you're that bad at drawing, i believe you should focus more on each subject, i mean like at least 2 hours, sometimes i take more than that on a single sketch But if it's making you sad then you should do something else for your own good
>>7838862That chain chomp mouth just isn't working, bro.
>doing the proko beginner course since I'm gigabeg>really want to start the hampton gesture course because I wanna draw peopleI have a feeling that doing both at the same time is gonna be too much and just slow down my progress a shitton, hmm.
>>7838906>is fun>like how it looksRetard thats literally the best thing ever then, why would you NOT do something that's fun and you enjoy it.
>>7838852:DDDDthanks alot for explaining :3i always wondered how you drew it, i think i only sparingly lurked back then>People are right to call it shit, nah , work smart not hard XD>>7838837thanskies ;3
>>7838881Calm down, dear.
>>7838915Yeah. But also, try applying it in your own stuff, like doing it by imagination or something.
>>7838913And you're right, do one course and then the other. That way it should be faster, because you'll notice similar stuff and if you've already learned it then you could just skip it.
>>7838923Yea I feel like this is the way to go, even if I do get somewhat impatient with myself, we'll see how long the first one is gonna take
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/113217587Is this a kid's account?
>>7838930>Male, 30 years oldNo. He is LITERALLY ME.
>>7838906do it but make your drawings look more crispier, everything looks like a soft blurry mess, not to say it doesnt look good but i feel like you can give it sharper edges in certain places to make it look better
hack frauding the fuck out of this, but despite that, proud of my work. i feel I've improved at textures, especially skin, fabric and leather (which is tough but fun!) i gotta lock in a bit for dynamic figures tho, i'm rusty
>>7838862I like this. Some things to work on, your canvas size is too small if the head clips out of it. The mouth, while stylized, is too large. Try to practice wrapping lines to connect the facial features. I'm still learning color but don't use air brush for the shading. Otherwise this is pretty good.
how do you draw bodies i can't draw anything besides floating heads and it's always the same angle
using just the lasso tool again, and a textured brush to add some spice
extremely rushed bath pic lolplus still recovering from Christmas and such, so drawing quality is down sadly
>>7839045It's faster and easier
>>7839050digital looks so easy compared to tard
>>7839047uh whats this image?
>>7839050oh no no no dont let the talent guy see this
reeeee I meant to say "compared to trad"
>>7839054shota rape. you know, the usual
>>7839054it is the pilot of the Full Armor Gundam fingering the ass of the pilot of the Psycho Zaku, both from Thunderboltthe zaku pilot is canonically a quadruple amputee by the end of the story, so this could actually happen
Getting back on the horse. Gimme something to draw.
>>7839063a frog to appease magenta
>>7839060there are both adults>>7839063the horse
>>7839054Gay shota amputee rape
Yoruichi
>>7839053You are right, but I can do that with trad tools easily. If you let me do a sketch or two before, I can do anything I do digitally with basic tools.That looks easy because it's just a simple basic pose, and just a simple character
>>7839054The result of dysfunctional mental healthcare and a lack of a support network. Social isolation is a bitch.
>>7839065You first if I can figure out what this means.>>7839066
>>7839074I'm also a brainlet. I didn't mean that as an insult or anything, you did great. I was just having a grass is greener moment
The beasts, the brutes
I got a drawing tablet for christmas, time to stop running from drawing.
>>7839117i really hope you are truly and deeply suffering and can find no rest
>>7838999Thanks for the feedback
>>7839114Same
drew my bunny of the day time to log off
Thread challenge
>>7837263tomboy fanart
>>7839183Absolutely beautiful.
>>7839183Yeah gtfo
>>7838862This anon >>7838910 has a point - the mouth sits strangely on the face and gives Hazbin Hotel vibes, except it only works on Hazbin because of their flat cartoony designs.It's also kind of hard to tell where the chin/neck divide is, the soft shading is too vague. The head should be larger as well, the forehead/upper head is too small compared to the face.
Just a quick drawing, I was trying something, I used a Photoshop filter to make the lineart look thinner
>>7839187????
>>7838860Peach's eyes are much bigger than this; even heavy-lidded like in this image, they'd occupy a huge portion of the face and the iris + pupil would be clearly visible. The mouth should also be more in line with the nose. Facial proportions in general are hugely important. Also, just as a side nitpick, the hand on the hip isn't really grabbing or resting realistically, it just looks pasted-on. Nice work on the stomach and nipples though.
>>7839183Really good.>>7839191It's a crab, ignore it.
>>7839194oh yeah, that looks way more like her, i kina went off with the eyes since i wanted to lean into expressiveness rather than being on model, though missing her bimbo lips definetely wasnt a good trade off on my part..>the hand on the hip isn't really grabbing or resting realisticallyYeah but thats the best i could do, that's notoriously difficult to draw, so untill i figure out a better way to do it it has to be like that>*.pngAre you actually russianon? Cus I actually wanted to ask about rendering not this drawing in particular
>>7839195What's a crab?
>>7839200The friend of the beasts
>>7839072The body is a 3D object, anon. There is some distance between the shoulder and the neck.
>>7839200Crab in the bucket mentality. Nodraw permabeg schizophrenics who lose their minds whenever they see someone posting a drawing that looks so much as marginally good. Essentially an extra layer of jealousy because they try to actively bring others down with them and spam threads with their endless bitching.
>>7839196Not russianon, just passing through because redlining can be fun sometimes. Hope you find what you're looking for though
tempted to get on the ipad procreate lifestyle, idk. I've already got a screenless tablet and I'm comfortable enough with photoshop, but maybe it'll ignite some kind of spark at the very least it might be nicer to draw from references since I'm not having to share screen real estate with the space I draw, all on a single screen. procreate brushes seem nice as hell too
Been likin' the progress I've made since coming back 2 months ago from a 5 year hiatus. Gonna' go hard on improving more next year and actually cleaning/coloring stuff for once.
>>7839212who would win, proko's kangaroo or your dino
>>7839196> Cus I actually wanted to ask about rendering not this drawing in particularWhy do you believe I have answers?
>>7839220you at least has answers of your own lived experience right?
>>7839216It's a Pokemon which is a pretty much a kid-friendly trained fighting dog so my money's on it.
>>7839211Speaking as someone who has tried to draw on an iPad with the Apple pencil, a display tablet, and is also currently using a screenless intuos 3 L, the screenless tablets are the best. I like drawing on my iPad, and procreate brushes are decent, but I prefer not having to crane my neck down to see my screen while I draw.
>>7838534>>7838541The point of both construction and reference is to put things in the right places. Both are important, but I'd suggest drawing from reference, and the next time you do, look reeeeeally closely at where you're putting things. Look at the dimensions I've put in blue: the spacing between the eyes, the position of the mouth. Make sure these features are the same distance away from each other as the reference, AND centered within the face.
>>7839223aye, the neck thing is why I avoid drawing trad, but you can get an easel for the iPad, no? the sketchboard pro, I think I guess it'll never be as good as the straight-on view of a monitor though
tip for today
>>7838918>dearYou better take that back, you asinine were-fag..
>>7839212You're great at accentuating the solid forms and the roundness of the body parts. It helps to avoid chicken-scratch: making lots of lines when you can use a single line to outline the shape in a cleaner way.
>>7839050How the fuck does talented rats find their way into this shithole?
>>7839061>quadruple amputeewhat the hell happened to him?
>>7839240no clue, im a fan of this shitty rpgmaker slop and this one guy churns out some of the best shit ive ever seen and shares them with the thread and sometimes trash for his weird gay pornnothing but respect for that guy ngl
>>7839221>I actually wanted to ask about about rendering notask what?
>>7839078Purple-chad anon draws frogs, so you should draw a better frog to exorcise him
>>7839175You can NEVER log off from this board. Welcome to hell.
>>7839238Cute. The arm on the far side looks a bit squished, and is much smaller compared to the nearer arm. They might benefit from being more proportional to each other.
>>7839248Did any specific courses help you learn?Did you make copies of photos, 3d renders, other paintings? If yes did you try to match the color exactly by eye?Do you fuck around with color sliders after painting or do you do pure paint?Do you pain in layers? Do you paint on the exact same layer as sketch?
>>7839050>No construction>No erasing>No sketching>No redrawing>All shapes are finalAnd people will keep denying talent.
>>7839239Thanks! I wasn't sure how much of a nightmare lining sketches like that would be, but seeing that gives me hope of something decent with practice,
>>7839254The foreshortening definitely threw me off on that part, thanks.
>>7839189You've got a gorgeous sense of shapes.
Did Prokos Snail and Shoes. Very happy with the snail, the boots were hard as hell, I think the boots themselves turned out pretty well, but jesus christ the shoelaces fucked my shit up completely. But hey, I gotta learn somehow.
>>7839265the bitchass shoes
>>7839265does his course have any kind of tedious box or cylinder grinding shit? if there's just a brief bit to get the idea across I can handle that looks good btw, the boots remind me of something you'd see in Keys to Drawing
>>7839236>>7838881>>7838877Why did he get mad by that?
>>7839270So far I didn't see any box grinding, but I'm in very early (video 16 out of 130). Looking through the video titles I don't think theres gonna be any big grinding.
>>7839278Cus' ain't taking no shit from nobody
>>7839281Wait till you have to draw kangaroos. That really grinded my gears, I tell ya that.
>>7838201when will someone put an end to the single-image beg thread starter.At least this time it's sorta relevant, but I hope we go back to collages of selections.
>>7839290I know there's some sort of meme about proko and kangaroos but I'm not really in on that yet
>>7839290Hi Stan, =) Big Fan!
>>7839292then start creating the collages yourself
>>7838613is tracing the way, bros? Sudden skill spike from prebeg to /int/ after the tracing month.
>>7839293https://youtu.be/4h4-2HRHaHIhttps://youtu.be/wN5ZlqfIF3M
i dont think ive studied more than twice in my life and im surprised my art looks like shit. also im lazy as fuck
>>7839203I was going for a 90 degree side shot of the body but I fucked up so I tried "fixing" the drawing multiple times making it what it is, also I'm bad at perspective, very bad, will focus on it tomorrow, also it's my 2nd day!
how can i make them more cute and lovly?
>>7839298Holy shit, what a banger
>>7839304You can make her tits less funny.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7839304Why are her tits so big?
>>7839304Make them flat
Hey all, just finished another photo study. She doesn't look like she could arm wrestle Joseph Joestar now.
>>7839307>>7839317Not an option >>7839312Vitamins and good diet
>>7839226Hmm, okay I see, it's hard with the ratios and distances for me because I'm so used to analysing human faces and not anime faces, I understand human facial features, ratios, measurements and all the small details of the face but with anime(particularly Kubo's style) it's kind of difficult to put that into practice(for now) as it's basically alien, Kubo's side profiles do resemble actual Caucasoid skulls(males at least) but with much less detail
>>7839320can i ask how old you are? keep up the consistent work
>got through ~30% of Keys to Drawing >about the same with Brent Eviston's course>dropped drawabox after box grinding >just dropped brokendraw I think with the last three it's just that they're boring as all hell. Keys to Drawing wasn't too bad but I wasn't super into drawing from life I'm sure Proko's course will be The One™. r-right..?
>>7839330>can i ask how old you are?Grooming is not allowed here anon.
>>7839334Explains the smell.
>finds drawing boring>continue wanting to drawThis is fascinating because I don't think it happens in any other hobby.
>>7839345I find it fun sometimes, like when I made >>7838906, but a lot of it is annoying. not having things be the way I want them is the main problem, and idk how anyone could find grinding boxes fun it's just the typical beginner frustration of knowing where you want your stuff to be but not being there. the eye being better than the hand
>>7839337As the kids would say "it's called aura".
>>7839351dude you smell like pure unfettered ass, get the fuck out of my gen
>>7839345I find drawing scary? I don't know if it's the right word, but I feel anxious drawing, which is primarily why I found it hard to stick to consistently.
Is it ok to copy the morpho book as a beg?
>>7839355no youre not allowed to
>>7839355illegal acitivty
>>7839357>>7839358Wut
Pain
>>7839330>can i ask how old you are?No, but I can tell you that I’m too old to become exceptional when starting at this point.>keep up the consistent workThank you, I plan to.
>>7839332>just dropped brokendraw You obviously skipped reading, so I don't think any other one will help, no.
I am learning to draw so I can draw myself and my wife in different scenarios I think of.
>>7839376yeah yeah use it as medicine not a diet, who gives a shit
>>7838315>>7838683>mog the whole board I am not that good bro! Thank.>>7839096I like the color
couple of drawingsfeel like I'm getting back into it but also like I'm getting a migraine>>7839392absolute sex desu
arms are too long but idc
>>7839392do you have any full color rendered pieces?
>>7838406which morpho book is this?
>>7839392I wish I could have a body like this desu.
>>7839385You're right, anon. You're gonna have so much fun doing nothing but grinding all those fundies and classes, I'm sure you'll make it someday.
>>7839257OK, but it will be unhelpful.- I watch and try a lot of things but I'm very chill about this whole endeavor. Not Olympic drillsI can't point to any names other than Marco, I can't say he affected me much except that I try to spread more colors everywhere because of him. But most of his lectures are cool. Boro was somewhat cool but hard to recommend. I watched everything interesting I do not know what helps to learn - Not until recently, I rarely do it and if I paint, it's very loosely. I recognize the probable benefits, but it's kind of uninteresting. Loose paint is a bit more exciting then measurements and I guess the colors when I do it( But if I want to see what color it is, I can just pick and look).-Usually, and not only after, but during the process, depending on what I'm doing.-Usually, I use multiply stacks and even if it's just normal I constantly add new layers and draw on top. what I don't do is I don't separate things into 120 objects because it's too clumsy. If I do, it's usually just the figure and the rest. >do you do pure>did you try to match the color exactly>paint on the exact same layerYou kind give the impression of categories of a stick strict and restrict. I'm more about interesting/not interesting
Not convinced
Trying to do the grayscale with the lasso tool tip, I just started but it is bedtime so for now it looks like an Illustrator shit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
haven't posted here in years but i have not improved
>>7838819i'd say do about 1 month of drawing from reference first before you try construction
>>7838315>>7839394I love Pyramidhead>>7839400You absolutely can have abody like that :)>>7839398It's Morpho Simplified Forms. One of my favourite anatomy book.>>7839397I can do celshading pretty well. Used to do a bunch for drawthreads, most like NSFW so I won't post them :)
>>7839482nice frog as always. just out of curiosity, did you ever follow any courses or beginner books, or did you jump right into the Bridgman copies and all that? >>7839448could probably use gradient maps to good effect with this approach, to create something like the final fantasy logos
>>7838315>>7839489Book and courses that I did:1. You can draw in 30 day book2. Fun with pencil3. Draw from the right side of the brain4. Key to drawing5. about 20 videos from Vilppu courses6. Morpho simplified form7. Morpho fat and skin fold8. Morpho hand and feets9. Bridgman book of hundred hand10. Bridgman human machine11. About 10 video from Brent Eviston courseThe /beg/ book do help me with the "feel the form" part
>>7839304sexo
Why cant we have a magma or drawpile like the other generals?
>>7839501fugg. I feel like a prick for dropping so many now >>7839332I should probably go back to Keys to Drawing, I feel like that definitely helped me the most and I still remember a lot of the lessons. idk, could be that I'm just undisciplined, or it's a matter of finding the right teacher/s like Brent isn't a bad teacher or anything, it's just that his approach and delivery is so dry and surgical, it doesn't ignite much of a spark. same can definitely be said of DAB's severe autism
>>7839507Because this is a tradgod general and digitards are just guests.
>>7839508Brent is a good teacher. I will try to finish his course in the future.
Going through watts atelier. I don't mind Jeff's philosophical banter, I think it's very ASMR. I heard Brian Knox is also a good teacher but I'm not there yet.
scary
>>7839551tracebro...
>>7839554Fuck off retard.
how do u age a character without adding facial hair ?im shooting for mid 30s but i can’t seem to draw him looking any older than a teenager
>>7839584He do look 30 imo
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