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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread:>>7828692

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
https://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/
Making Comics
https://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255d
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Manben link can be found on archive.org on different pages separated by season: https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1bu9f0y/found_all_of_naoki_urasawas_manben_and_manben_neo/
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

OP image is from Gunslinger Girl, chapter 4, page 135
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>>7845739
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
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>>7845741
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
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>>7845742
/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Don't be a crab
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.
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working through a couple of missing title illustrations and finished one today.
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>>7846263
Cool!
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>>7846263
very cool composition, love it
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>>7845739
The prestigious Tezuka Award is accepting submission.
>https://www.jump-mangasho.com/award/tezuka-akatsuka/
Come on, anon, bring your masterpiece to Jump, One Piece is dying and they desperately need a new Kimetsu no Yaiba.
Become like Hokazono who won this award then get Kagurabachi serialized with in just 3 years.
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>>7828858
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>>7846313
Same, anon. A lot of anons have been MIA. I want to see everyone back on their manga this year!
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>>7846394
amazing details, looks great
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>>7846394
This looked like it was fun to draw, and I hate drawing
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>>7846390
>The last (and only) manga to win the full "入選" (top prize) in the JUMP新世界漫画賞 is 「カクレミ」 (Kakuremi) by 百田稜助 (Ryōsuke Momota). This was in the 22nd round (around 2019), where it also received the 超新星賞 and was published in Weekly Shonen Jump issue 30 of 2019. It is the only work to ever achieve the "入選" rank in this award's history, as confirmed by official listings and discussions—no others have been awarded since, with recent rounds using different prize naming (e.g., top prizes now called Grand Prize or similar, but no equivalent "入選").
What a huge fucking scam.
And this Ryosuke guy still haven't gotten serialized yet. His last work was a one shot 異次元生体サイボーグ0番 in December 2024.
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Guys, I know most of you are really into shonen and action, but at some point you should try making a real drama comic. It really messes with your worldview. you can’t just half-ass it you need to research, read stuff, and talk to real people. And yeah, that’s usually what leads to real recognition. Honestly, drama is pretty much the only thing that puts an artist on another level. Just look at Fujimoto. Shonen is fun, it’s entertainment, but his dramatic work goes way beyond the manga and comics audience and reaches ordinary people. I’m not a professional or anything, just a reader. I read a ton of graphic novels and manga from all genres, but the dramatic ones are the only ones that actually change how I see the world. I get that not everyone here wants that, everyone has their own goals, and that’s fine. Still, try pushing yourselves at least once. just my opinion
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>>7846542
That's nice bro, kind of preaching to the choir here though.
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>I read a ton of drama manga
>people standing around whispering to each other about the guy that can kill every other character with just a finger
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>>7846542
what are the best drama manga
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>2026
this is our year. WAGMI
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>>7846652
that's what I said about last year. it's fucking joever
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>>7846616
nta, but you should read Himitsu.
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Took a pause on the manga-making to draw Triela. Just couldn't resist it. I don't think I ever drew anything with such a flow state.
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>>7846397
I got promoted to costumer on my job, so i will be hanging, maybe around
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>>7846542
No, thanks.
I make manga to make money.
If 7 out of 10 best selling manga is shonen battle manga then it'a obvioua where the money is accumulating in.
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>>7846542
This but replace drama comic with shojo BL
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>>7846542
>>7847606
>>7847620
>a shojo BL battle manga set in irl with hard-hitting drama moments
Any takers?
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Fuck that, I am bringing Battle Harems back.
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>>7847682
So... you making a LN? That wasn't really a thing in manga.
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>>7847682
Battle harem where everyone in the thread designs a girl.
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>>7847683
Bro, there were tons of stuff like that that was manga/anime as well. Tenjou Tenge, Ikki Tousen, even stuff like Highschool DxD and a bunch of other stuff falls in or at least near that category.
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Keep yourself horny and you'll make it. It was that easy all along.
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Got some inking tools for Christmas, so I've been trying it out a little. I'm now realizing how much hand-holding I'm getting with using a stabilizer, liquify and undo in CSP
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>>7847820
looks really cool, shading as usual is spot on, was it pens or nibs you got?

>>7846542
i feel like there arent many battle shonen dudes here, I've seen some cool, more experimental stuff here. Looking at some reddit sites pages though, its clear some people have only ever consumed shonen manga, and thus unfortunately, their stuff is sorta generic. My 2 favorite Shonen, Chainsawman and Jojo, clearly are made by authors who pull from a wide range of genres. personally Im trying to make a "drama" comic, basically a full length movie, and I think its going ok, although I sorta wished I started later when I was better at art, cause me opening art isnt great (not that its good now, but im better). The "hook" of my story happens at the end of my first chapter, and the full story is put into motion in the second chapter, but I probably spent too much time at the start with "boring" stuff, as some people have put it. Movies can afford to start a bit later, but all the comic and manga experts go over how you should immediately start with a bang.


>>7845739
also do you guys think this face looks right? Tried for a while to get this face to look right, then switched to digital, and although I ended up basically going over a 3d model, I still feel like this doesnt look right.
looking at it too now, I might go back and fix up the leg on the right, and water to the girls face, as shes just drowned to death

any other critiques are welcome too,
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>>7847881
hey man, you oughta tighten up your hatching
literally, i mean. draw the lines closer together, draw more lines. just that on its own would be a pretty significant level up.
as for the face, eh nothing about it stands out as super wrong to me. it's good enough.
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>>7847820
Very cute anon your art improved in trad
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>>7847881
Thanks, I got me some G pen nibs with a holder. Bit of a learning curve on how to use them properly, but I'm having fun with it

>>7847896
Really? Thanks, I feel like I have less control over my lines when using ink, but it also gives them a very different character when compared to my digital line work
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>>7847962
>WEEE000-WEEE000-
The best part of the page.
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Finished my one-shot.. It's probably not very consistent and it's probably very unclear what's happening but at least I finally finished something. What do you think

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TMnka39XZdIda9e9zmSLGZJ_tYNPXQuz/view?usp=sharing
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>>7847820
Stiffer nibs basically have a "stabilizer" imo. The less flexible they are the easier they are to control.
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>>7847881
Your work would look so much better if you:
A. Stop Hatching
B. Get really good at hatching
C. Use a hatching brush instead
It REALLY looks bad, at makes your style look so much more amateur, when I can see substance and style underneath.
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I'm thinking of creating a series of comic strips with manga style in which girls tour European countries. Do you have any references I can use as a basis for making comic strips about a any European country, whether on YouTube channels, in books, or elsewhere?
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I'm gonna start working on a manga and it will be my first experience, does anyone have a piece of advice for a total noob in manga making?
Also what resolution should I use?
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>>7847894
>>7848077
Thanks for pointing that out. Barely ink digitally, but last time i did i got the same comments, so seeing as im probably gonna switch from trad to digital, I’ll focus on improving the hatching
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>>7848182
>piece of advice
Remember to have fun :)
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>>7848182
It's gonna be hard as fuck. But you can do it.
>Which resolution
Depends on what you want to do with it. If you're gonna print it you need high res etc.
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>>7848182
The technical questions with working on manga filters me that's why I've been on and off with it. To this day I'm still confused with paper sizes and tones, fucking tones. Tutorials I see floating around are in japanese most of the time like this https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115817332
My advice is to don't think too much of these anyway or you'll end up manga-less like me
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>>7847966
I love it! It's interesting despite some of the weird English here and there. One of the cooler things I've seen from here

>>7848182
Do a few pages or a one shot. Don't try to Jump into a long work. Resolution depends on if you plan on printing or not. That also matters for margins and typesetting.
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>>7848276
Thank you anon
The weird English is intentional (mostly), the bug girl just can't speak properly..
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>>7847966
Yeah. I can't really tell what's going on and the colors hurt the eyes a bit, but it was cool. The part where she reconstructs herself was really well done.
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>>7848182
Best way to start is to just dive in and try to tell whatever story made to want to make a comic in the first place.
>Also what resolution should I use?
Draw big, reduce it on export. A standard A4 or B4 at 600DPI is perfectly fine.

>>7848251
Tones are just values. If your values are bad then your tones will look wrong. If you mean literally applying tones, well, that's very simple and there's numerous ways you could do it. You could take a png of the tone and slap where you want it. You could paint in gray and convert that gray layer into tone. You could download a tone brush. They all achieve the same effect.
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>>7848300
>>7848313
Thank u, I was excited to draw this part from the start,m I'm happy you like it

I need to work on my storytelling, a lot..
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>>7848194
>>7848195
>>7848251
>>7848276
>>7848304
Thank you bros. Hope it turns out passable!
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>>7847962
>Sughara
If you're aiming for a Japanese naming system that doesn't work it needs a 2nd vowel after the G.
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>>7847966
this has legs, my favourite parts were the almost 4th wall breaking texture and image changes, like I think if you pushed it further, like the stone is a hyper realistic 3D render, maybe there are some physicallity of like magazine collage clippings, or some like glitch art, push the mixed media-ness of it all, have more intentional panel breaks, use the media of the comic as a means to push the absurdness of the situation. like the panelling is more composed but falls apart as whatever psychadellic bullshittery happens. i'd prefer the the text be more legible, atleast for the non alien chick.

>>7847881
First: the draw over the 3d model looks fine,
think I went through this a few threads ago, you are fighting yourself on this hap hazard hatching; less is more, thinner lines and consistent spacing.
that being said I dont envy you having to depict water or dampness.
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>>7848251
Professionals work in size B4 (very big), and A4 is the size for Doujins or fan works (about the real size of a sheet of copy paper) So in CSP when you open a new file, there are options for A4 Monochrome or B4 Monochrome. You don't need to mess with the resolution further because the presets already have everything right. By the way, you can work in a smaller canvas size so long as the aspect ratio is maintained, but if you're trying to use digital tone options in CSP, if you make the canvas smaller the dots will be too large, so don't change it.
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>>7848370
Thank you, I was thinking about mixing in more stuff like, as you said, 3d etc., I think I'll certainly be exploring this in the future
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>>7847966
Looks interesting, loved the fruit gear x vaporwave vibe this gets. I think you should change the font for a more readable one and work more in your paneling, but this is someone everyone struggle at first so dont worry.
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>>7847962
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>>7848414
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>>7848528
Oh no....
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>>7848529
>>7848528
No way, isnt he the guy from chapter 3 in fortnite? Hes about to oneshot them with his kame hawaii
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>>7845739
Why haven't you learn AI yet, anon?
Forget about learning how to draw, learn how to code and prompt.
We're entering the end of the human-made manga era.
In the next 4 years, AI manga will dominate the Oricon chart, AI manga will be the new norm and big publisher like Shueisha will prefer to work with AI-savvy mangaka.
Those who conquer AI will conquer the world.
Use AI now or you'll end up a failed mangaka whose work keep getting rejected.
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>>7848602
>Entire article is how it is being pushed corpo juggernaut
>Despite this, and while also achieving #1, still only has a 3.1/5 rating.

I remain unbothered.
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>>7848609
>This led some to speculate that most readers may not particularly care whether a manga’s artwork is created by a human artist or generated with AI, and that the strongest objections may currently be concentrated among creators rather than consumers.
Average consumers cannot be careless about that.
AI has been growing at exceptional pace this past 3 years.
By next 3 year, AI will get so good that a mangaka can generate 19 pages of a chapter while showering.
They're only getting started.
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>>7848611
its always next year but never now, youve been saying this for years.

AIs stagnated over the last few years, itll be used but it wont replace art for a while
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>>7848611
>>7848602
I am learning AI. It's just too easy and saves so much time.
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>>7848616
it literally is now according to that article
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>>7848609
>while also achieving #1, still only has a 3.1/5 rating.
Lol so what? This is more than anyone on here has ever achieved. It's more than 90% of people who try their hands at this achieve, and this guy did it with a fraction of the time spent. This technology is clearly changing the landscape, and anyone still trying to cope is like an idiot back in the 70s refusing to use lightboxes to trace photos, as if taking this flimsy stand would result in anything other than his own doomed obscurity. If you want a chance now and aren't already a great artist, learn AI. Or don't, and watch everyone else succeed and seethe about it in safe spaces.
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>>7848611
>objections may currently be concentrated among creators rather than consumers.
This has always been the case. Consumers don't want clear AI garbage, but when used effectively most of them can't even tell the difference and simply won't care. They want the maximum dopamine experience with the least money paid. Because AI photobashers take less time to learn/create, they will always offer the cheapest products.

You'd have to study for 10+ years to be able to create with the same quality/efficiency of a 5 year artist photobashing/tracing AI. Even then the AI guy would probably be faster, pumping out pages at twice the other guy's speed. When you are young and think you have all the time in the world, you might try to shrug this off and cope. But any aging creator realizes the writing on the wall.
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Do you guys actually draw your perspectives or you just eyeball them?
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>>7848370
redid the hatching, you guys think this looks better?
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>>7848703
also yeah had to edit some shit there, cause i guess i forgot that one of my main characters, just lost a couple fingers
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>>7848703
Yes. Much better.
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>>7848703
significantly.
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>>7848703
Yes, no doubt.
But you still don't know how to hatch
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>>7847682
>>7847697
Battle harem but every fighter the mc encounters is trans or a trap and they all join his harem as he beats them on his quest to find an actual female
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>>7847819
Libido is the enemy. Stop having sexual thoughts.
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>>7848162
Just do a 4koma
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>>7848616
>its always next year but never now, youve been saying this for years.
Just like all you guys who say you'll start your manga but never do
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>>7848698
I just make it up
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>>7848703
You're doing way too much hatching, just draw the figures and use the screen tones to define the form. You can use solid blacks for the darkest areas, but using both cross hatching and screen tones is visually messy.
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>>7849178
Here, quick draw over the face in the first panel to give an example.
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>>7848703
I Also sucks at haching and the reason I stopped using it but try to think as if you were sculping light with shadows lines
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>>7849178
>>7849208
>>7849229
What he had going works better than whatever these are. There is nothing wrong with combining tones and hatching, that's what most manga do after all, he just needs to improve on his hatching and you do that by practicing. Speaking as someone who's gone through all this and finally had it click after a long time.
He's very obviously just imitating Araki's style of hatching (poorly), if he wants to improve at it he just needs to get better at emulating that. He's already getting closer just with >>7848703.
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How do you guys handle speech bubbles? I plan to just do the bubble on top and a layer directly under it where I color white under the bubble so I don't have to erase that part of the drawing.
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>>7849355
the same way you described, though I try to avoid having to draw behind speech bubbles by planning them out first and alongside the first rough outline.
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>>7849355
You could do that.
For me speech bubbles are one of the first things I draw, right after panel borders. I figure out where they need to be in the storyboard/sketch.
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>>7849360
>>7849362
Damn, was hoping there were better options haha. Thanks.
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>>7849390
If you have to cover up a nice drawing, you already fucked up earlier.
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>manga making general
Enough fucking around. Let's go. Its mangaka time
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>>7849642
It would be this https://tapas.io/episode/3749447
Or that https://tapas.io/episode/3760908
Or https://bunnyseries.the-comic.org/ which is a daily repost of everything.
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>>7849636
I'm good enough at managing space and I do want the ability to preserve textless versions of pages, I just wanted a less tedious way of doing speech bubbles while accounting for that.
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>>7848182
Have an ending in mind, 1 volume, 2 tops. It'll make the grind feel like you're making progress
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>>7848602
Having lived in japan, The japs do not care about AI. They have AI anime signs plastered all over their shops and boards. (Its still slop imo but yeah they dont care)
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>>7847966
I think this is.......... awesome!!!!!!!!!! Do you have a blog?
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Reminder that even the pros have to use 3d environments. This the author of Ajin.
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>>7849752
Thank u anon that's really nice to hear.. I have sort of a blog in discord (a simple server with no chat channels) - https://discord.gg/fxzRWdGkEM , I'm not sure if it counts but I attempt to post all fun things I do in there
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>>7849813
Can you give us an example of how you've been making use of 3d in your manga?
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>>7849824
Me? I haven't used it much, really. Though if I knew how to use Blender better, I would probably use it for almost everything.
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>>7848602
what's the best site to learn to use AI for manga?
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>>7848304
Please anon, tell me the ways of a tone brush in photoshop and were to get them
I've been painting gray, exporting just the shaded gray (without lines), open, convert to flat/halftone, then exporting that, and adding it into my file with the lines under them
But it's excruciatingly long, and any minor fix require that I do everything all over again
I HATE this pipeline
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>>7848698
Depends
If the scene is meant to be warped and exaggerated (like your pic rel) then I just eyeball it (excellent pun)
If the scene is meant to be in perspective but a grounding establishing shot, like from the top of a building to show how big a city is, I try to keep things accurate since keeping things looking like they're in proper perspective gives more of a sense of place.
Basically, if it's meant to look realistic, I use grids.
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In clip studio can I just find a 3D model of a certain car and turn it in to lineart? Probably mangaka do this sort of thing all the time so I don't feel bad about it. Doing this would save me 10+ hours of work trying to freehand it, plus it would look better than my drawing would.
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>>7850013
>probably mangaka
*pro mangaka
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>>7850013
you can, though you can still draw over that lineart and improve it/make it fit your style. It won't take ten hours and it'll look better than drawing it from scratch.
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>>7849739
I think its the same everwhere. Even here in the west you can find AI signs all over the place in trendy areas and marketplaces. They just dont have anime because we're western.

I think in japan they don't call anime style art "anime", they just call it art. So it has nothing to do with AI in manga, most people probably feel the same way westerners do: its a retarded idea
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>>7849867
The AI threads on any given board
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>>7849921
They definitely exist, but I don't use photoshop so I've never had to find them. Googling it shows me several different ways.
That said doing it in photoshop is ass and if you don't know much about tones then it's going to be quite confusing down the road when you're trying to figure out how replicate industry standard tone sheets. Better to just use CSP, frankly. Pirate it if you gotta.
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Finish the lower deck for my shitass spaceship. Now I can do some more pages.
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>>7850435
Finished*
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I got really sick over the holiday break, and it's finally over.

>>7848703
The hatching here is way better. You should move the speech bubble in the bottom panel and make it bigger. maybe just have it floating over the image without a bubble.

>>7848698
I tend to use a 3d primitive and draw using the perspective ruler it provides. sometimes I make a grid.

>>7849813
I really want The Pool to come to the states physically but right now it's up for pre-order with a release date of december 2026. Waiting for new seinen launches in the US is actual hell.

>>7850013
It REALLY depends on the model. Some of them you can extract the lines and use as is. Some require a lot of work to look drawn.
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what a slog, but i think it was worth it. i'm on the fence about adding contextual shadows to the girl, I like her sticking out stark white but also cool opportunity for some dramatic lighting.

>>7848703
its maybe better? the hatching is more consistent in the later but the image was cleaner in the first run, honestly you could dedicate a lifetime to this panel, better to move on.

something that im actually really into in your image is the mans hands holding her head, like that is some quality inking if you could get that kind of line quality to the rest of your illustrations you'd be mogging us all.
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>>7850461
more polished every time, nice

>>7850566
gorgeous
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>>7850566
Yo anon, this is gonna sound nitpicky, but I dont see why you need the bed in the background.
If there was a page before this that shows her on the bed already sitting, its unnecessary cause you established shes already sitting down in her thoughts
If this wasnt established and this is like a splash page or a cover page piece or something of that nature, then the bed just looks like an afterthough in contrast to how well everything else is drawn in the composition, plus this page seems more symbolic in nature you dont need that detail to ground it, plus it blends in to the grey so people arent gonna appreciate that detail, even if she looks like shes floating in space without the bed the piece is already kind of trippy.
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Like its your manga/comic so you tell me how important it is but without it I think its stronger. Again great piece either way so you can get away with ignoring me if you wanted to, just a thought
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>>7850566
>>7846394
Bro noooo
I don't know why but I feel it's fucking ruined
It doesn't project the same emotion as the lineart
Lineart was oppressive, and she was like cornered, like the demons have her down and want to get her and there's nothing she can do to stop them, she feels sad
This render, she feels incredibly safe and powerful, and now it looks like she's looking down on the demons, that the demons have no power on her and that she's even pushing them off
Completely different read
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Is this true, /mmg/?
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>>7851084
Yes. Coomerslop will always be in season. They never last though, but most will always have a niche fanbase.
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>>7850566
I'll scroll past this in 2 seconds and think "cool" before moving on
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It's my 27th birthday /mmg/. I'm inching closer and closer to 30. I want to post a page today to celebrate so I spent my morning finishing another.

>>7850566
super good image
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New chapter is out now!

>>7846390
I submitted to the Kodansha contest lol
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>>7851338
hope you get it dude
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this gonna be my best work
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>>7850881
sorry i might have indicated that i was finished with the panel, rather then just demons, im still intending on buffing out the bed. that being said this is the only panel that indicates she is sitting on a bed, so it really isn't that important.

>>7850942
this is an interesting take, I always saw it the demons as only existing in the the dark, but I can see what you are on about, if you got a suggestion to combine both i'm captain All-Ears
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>>7851999
This looks good. Which anon are you?
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>>7852021
What you mean combine both? Make her seem fragil and attacked and at the same time seem powerful and confident and being the attacker?
I think you are asking too much lad, just pick what you want to project and that's it
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>>7852151
>tfw already forgotten...
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>>7851084
100 100 emotes
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If you had a choice, would you rather read a loliyuri slice of life manga, or siscon romance slice of life manga?
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Whoever suggested that I draw on a combined canvas made a good call. I've been drawing the last few sets of pages as 2 pages spreads and It's has really changed how I do things for the better. I like being able to read more of a scene at a time. larger panels come more naturally, so pages aren't being cluttered as much. I'm also drawing faster, since its easier to consider 2 pages as 1. I got both of these done today.
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>>7848681
there's nothing to learn. The tech will become more and more accessible to the average person than it already is. If you're truly in it for the long term you should continue to learn to draw and work on fundamentals of the visual medium. Then you can choose to add in AI if you need to. So many begs in this thread like this post
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>>7853023
Brother those are the most basic ass descriptions possible. Everything has an audience especially these basic ass premises. Just follow whichever ones gets you motivated to actually draw it
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>>7853035
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>>7853046
how 2026 is going for me
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>>7853023
neither. because im not retarded
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>>7853023
Loliyuri if both girls are lolis.
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>>7853035
It does seem to look better somehow
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>>7848681
What do you mean "learn" ai? Can't you just press a button and have an instant manga?
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>Still feel anxious every time I start a new page
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I'd like to share a request I finished recently. I'm open to any feedback regarding the panel set ups

1/3
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>>7853423

2/3
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>>7853425

3/3
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Can someone PLEASE show me a software or site with 3d models from which I can trace guns from? Preferably something that gives me total freedom for seeing different angles of it. I can't keep drawing them from observation in every single panel. This sketch alone took me 40 minutes.
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>>7853465
Defcad? I dunno but if you find it let me know too
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>>7853465
it would take less time long term to learn to draw than trace every difficult object from 3D
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>>7853423
Based and goonpilled, will this be in color? Also what's the direction of this comic
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>>7853307
>>7853043
While you're waiting for this tech to be able to do instant manga, others are winning contests by photobashing lora models and other AI assets. In a few years we'll see the announcement of the first animes of award-winning AI-assisted mangas. The people who are learning the tech now will be leagues ahead of you idiotic crabs by the time AI will reach the levels you describe.

My predictions for the first big AI-assisted successes are gooner bait isekai or harem manga. AI has the most experience with drawing hot guys/girls, and places like civit.ai are flooded with cute girl/guy lora models. It'll be the easiest to do since most panels will just involve cute girl faces/bodies, and it requires minimum story-telling knowledge.
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>>7853535

nah, no plans to get it colored. someone on ribbit requested it. originally, they requested Jessie going through breast/ass enlargement from being possessed by some pokemon fusion. It was pretty specific, though I interpreted it as a comic. I have no plans to expand on it at the moment, though I imagine possessed Jessie, Possessie if you will, would get up to some slutty hijinks soon after the last page.

thanks for the praise anon.
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>finally feeling well enough to draw after catching a really bad case of the flu
>down for 2.5 weeks
Jesus fucking christ, that was such an awful time. I'm still coughing once in a while but I no longer feel like a flesh bag whose sole job was to generate mucus.
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>>7853588
I know how you feel anon. I planned to spend January just grinding studies and pages. but I had to spend a lot on medicine and food I could actually keep down. Now I'm doing tons of extra work on top of my studies to recoup the cost of getting sick.
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>>7853600
First panel looks coo
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>>7853465
see if CSP has any guns. Also there's this https://sketchfab.com/tags/gun look around for a suitable gun. You can rotate it in any angle so take screenshots and make a sheet.
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>>7853544
I'm confused, does AI remove the need for skill or does not? Why would they be better than me at using AI? I'll just catch up with AI.
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>>7853672
I'm using Krita. Sketchfab is what I've been using lately but I can't rotate the gun to the angle I want to, so I need to take a screenshot and then rotate the image, but that usually fuck the quality of the image. I'll try looking for a blender model.
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>>7853600
really wanted to do these pages as soon as possible. I'm on a roll this week.
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>>7853988
And here I thought I did a better humiliation beating with Lena vs Banshee lol also good to see you again anon I remember reading your work years ago and then you vanished from /mmg/
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Working on a cover page.
Something's missing... but this was very fun to do
I never came up with a proper name for this project so I guess I'll call it "Let's Go Jump off a Bridge"
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>>7853023
reddit hates both tropes
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>>7853023
I would turn 360 degrees and walk away, because neither of those would appeal to me.
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I though I could finish at least the linework for this today but my catgirl's face keeps looking all retarded. I'll have to fix it tomorrow.
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>>7854576
I thought she was a dog. Definitely need to draw more cats buddy.
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>>7854576
i like it, looks cool
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>>7854735
Lol I do. I don't even draw furry charcaters. I'm learning it just for her.
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>>7854576
>>7854743
I could tell she was a catgirl, but I think maybe you could make the ears a little bit smaller and that might help.
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>>7854757
>>7854738
Thanks guys. There's a lot of things wrong in that page. I'll get it all fixed and tweaked.
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>>7854576
Dude wait! She looks great! Don't go crazy now. Face and pose are great, just find the right lines on the neck and upper chest area and it's ready for the lineart.
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>>7854576
Are you geting used with the tablet?
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>>7854867
Yeah. Still don't know how to draw with my shoulder though.
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>>7854942
I've been drawing with a tablet for a decade and I can't do that shit. You don't need it.
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manga making general
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does anyone here still have dreams of making it? anyone given up yet like me?
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>>7855101
It depends on what "making it" means to you. If we're talking about "making it" in that you're a full mangaka working in Japan doing horrible hours with an insane crunchload so that you can die 10-15 years early from stress-induced health issues, then no, not even dingle (pornanon) has "made it" by that metric. Otherwise, you need to think about what it means to you. For some, "making it" simply means having a nice comic that people enjoy reading and tell you that as such. For others, "making it" means getting popular enough to have fan art and cosplay of your characters. And for others, "making it" is getting to the status of dingle/rosenrot anon where they are working with Japanese editors to do some sort of a published release.

For me, I just draw my comic for fun. I want to do it, I have a drive to do it because I want to make something, but I don't HAVE to do it. If I start getting instances of cosplay I'll have considered myself to have fully made it.
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>>7854698
Nice, very cozy.
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>>7854576
I still feel a bit weird about this one, but let's call it a day.
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>>7855243
Anon, if you're going to have her wear a tight-fitting suit, then you need to decide whether it's gonna have a vacuum-seal effect or not. The suit is tight around her breasts allowing us to see the contours when a real life suit like that would instead have the material merely have a slight sag to denote the cavity in between the breasts.... but then you draw her crotch area and it's NOT also vacuum sealed which would allow you to see her pubic bone/vagina. Which one is it lol - vacuum sealed or not?
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>>7855331
It's not vaccuum sealed. It's just a suit similar to a diving suit. I just wanted to show her breasts being squeezed.
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>>7855336
Oh, I see now, ok. I do think the breast line is a bit thick compared to the rest of how you've drawn her, however.
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>>7855357
I'm disappointed with it really... That panel was meant to be sexy. I don't know why I didn't change the pose and angle on the sketching phase. I hate it, but I'm not sure if it's worth redoing.
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>>7855374
I don't think the pose is necessarily bad, to me the issue is kinda the somewhat haphazard/shaky linework. It kinda makes her look a tad lumpy.
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>>7855374
I don't think it's that bad, frankly, to echo >>7855377, it really truly isn't. You just have to make your lines a bit more consistent.
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>>7855374
Draw her nipples poking through her body suit.
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>>7855377
>>7855389
>>7855401
Thanks frens. I'll try improving her curves. And I'll change her expression too.
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I drew this yesterday and I'm probably going to redraw parts of it. It's kind of weak. bottom left panel really sticks out to me after seeing it complete.
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>>7855506
Looks good, guess her head could be wider
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Finished the script for the first chapter, I'll start drawing tomorrow
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>>7855374
>I hate it, but I'm not sure if it's worth redoing

you just explained in one sentence why most shit that comes out these days sucks. if you think its not good enough then fucking make it right
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>>7855575
Unfortunately, time is something you have to take into account too, anon. I don't have a deadline, but I'd rather not spend weeks on a single page unless it's truly needed. Besides, I will still try to fix that panel without remaking the whole thing. If I can at least look at it and feel satisfied, then it's good enough.
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>>7855575
Perfection is the enemy of the good
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>>7855581
i mean... you could just figure it out before you start all that work. you said you didnt like how the character looked in the panel, but did you even sketch the subject more than once? thats the point you shouldve restarted. composition is a huge part of visual media that require time before the linework and rendering even start

you wanted the subject to be "sexzy" but the composition is mostly flat angled, the subject is awkwardly standing oblique and far from the camera. all that is the opposite of evocative
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>>7855575
This line of thinking is how you get stuck redrawing the same first two chapters of your story over and over again, and stuck in the same loop for like 10 years.
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>>7855628
>you wanted the subject to be "sexzy" but the composition is mostly flat angled, the subject is awkwardly standing oblique and far from the camera. all that is the opposite of evocative
I don't understand it myself. I had a completely different image of it in my head. But when I started drawing the page I did a different thing from what I wanted and just kept rolling with it. The same thing happened with picrelated. I wanted to make a really dynamic shot of the ship landing with the camera looking from below, but I just did a flat, boring angle of it. I'll try to notice this pattern next time it happens again to break this habit.
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>>7855638
I think it's just a bad habit I developed, to go with whatever image I come up with first.
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>>7855581
Nah, you don't need a week, here's a helping hand
Feel free to trace over it if you want
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>>7855506
This feels directed better. The original panel wasn't bad, it just wasn't really in the right place. I hate this stupid bottle by the way. I designed a bad prop and now I have to use it for the rest of the story.

>>7855652
good redline
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>>7855653
>I designed a bad prop and now I have to use it for the rest of the story.
It's your story anon
You are one minor panel away from having an easier prop, just one minor panel with the evil girl saying "I need something more handy/concealed this time..." while pouring into a new smaller bottle and that's it
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>>7855653
It looks like an ass with a prolapsing anus.
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>>7855661
Mr Proko I didn't think you had such a dirty mind
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>>7855659
This kind of object exists in universe but there are contextual reasons as to why Hancock doesn't have access to them. I also don't like getting into this line of thinking. Too many retcons or an inability to dedicate to previously presented elements can complicate things and create a story that's annoying to follow. Bullshitting an excuse for the bottle to be different right now would stick out as an obvious retcon, and wasted page space. The better solution would be to draw it slightly differently and to not even mention the change.

>>7855661
This. it looks awful.
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Im taking too much time in this damn page
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Hey can someone spoonfeed me something real quick please. I draw a lot but never tought of making my stuff into a manga.
But right now I feel ready to jump in straight away. So if I had tio pick a single resource to actually build a manga in terms of panel, suggestions on how to convey dynamism and that kind of stuff (so not learning how to draw but put your drawing into a manga/comic). Which resource should I get? Willing to pay for the book/course if it's worth it.
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>>7855938
There's no book that's going to teach you that. You just gotta wing it until you get it.
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>>7855938
Save your money.
Start by making a 4koma. A series of fixed-size panels where you explore perspective and inter-character dynamics. Don't think too much into the science of it, just feel it. What happens to the scene if characters are close or far apart?
Once you're confident in feeling dramatic angles you can start messing with panel layouts on regular page sizes.
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>>7855938
what format do you plan it being in? will the pages be print form or shitty scroller? if its print, what page size do you want? are you drawing digital or scanning paper? whats the genre? different genres use different panelling schemes for dialogue and stuff. you simply need to provide more information
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There's always a ton of foliage in my manga, so I'm constantly trying to figure out how to best render it without looking like ass. It's tricky figuring out the right mix of actual and suggested detail and readability.
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>>7856203
The detail on that drawing is pretty good.
Usually what I do if I'm left with no choice but to draw a ton of grass is chuck in some rocks, dirt patches, tree roots etc. Stuff that's less time consuming than grass. Plus it makes the scene more interesting.
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>>7856203
this looks great, maybe you can create a standard reference sheet for the grass in your game, seperated by region.
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>>7848611
>By next 3 year, AI will get so good that a mangaka can generate 19 pages of a chapter while showering.
will it even need a "mangaka" by that point if the growth is exponential? It will just be a program relying on the algorithm to generate millions of comics/manga of all tastes. I always find it odd people just assume the automation will stop at needing human to prompt and not just do everything automatically, from idea generation to distribution. Humans will just have one job; Consuming it.
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Puting the dialogue together with the sketch to measure the speech bubble will save me some time
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>>7856289
That's the neat thing.
It won't.
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>>7856517
Nobody is reading a story written by nobody.
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>>7856289
While idiotic crabs like you are coping about the future, others are learning and using the technology now to get ahead. You think the recent AI manga contest winners are just a fluke? This is the opening of the floodgates. Consumers AND corporations have deemed with their wallets that AI usage is fine so long as it doesn't look bad. More and more people will make successful products with AI in the coming years, getting publisher deals + anime adaptations, all while you snarkily cope about how it's all pointless because humans will be flying around in spaceships so why learn how to drive a car?
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>>7856752
Because driving is fun and its limitations and challenges are what make it fun, are you brown by any chance?
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>>7856768
protip: don't bother engaging AI baiters. you can't even be sure they're not just a bot to start with.
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I heard the best advice for a procrastinigger like myself
>Just make it exist you can make it look better later
since taking that to heart Its been so much fun scribbling visuals for what i wrote/planned.
Any anons willing to share tips on how to keep the panelling from getting repetitive, i see so much slop on webtoon (thats really popular) and its somehow even more soulless than anything an ai could make.
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>>7846542
Reminds me of that anecdote about Dandadan's mangaka being forced to read 100 shoujo manga
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Reading Gunslinger Girl made me wonder if I should use more blacks. Is it something you *should* do or is it just an stylistic choice?
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>>7857327
It's a stylistic choice, but I'd argue unless you're very deliberately avoiding them then you shouldn't be afraid of darkening your range of values (ie, use more blacks). My own pages tend to look better when I lean into more blacks with heavier shading, or so I feel.
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Has anybody had trouble opening clip studio? Is really slow on my laptop and checking the task manager it has 13 process called microsoft edge viewer
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>>7857456
No issue for me.
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>>7856437
Some grammar and dialogue touch ups: I know you're ESL

"I used to go to the coconut bar all the time."

"Ha, i doubt it. that dumb asshole doesnt give a shit."

"ever since he remarried after mom walked out on us,"

"shit, she has daddy issues..."

"hey, I know we just met, but you are the first guy that hasn't just walked out (on me) after sex(fucking)."
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>>7857478
Thanks bro!
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>>7857327
I prefer more blackspotting. Hell I usually put way more black on my pages than even this. I prefer that, and then just using only one or two layers of tones.
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>>7857518
Not that anon but I write dialogue in different languages and I'll sometimes ask an ai clanker whats the casual and formal ways of saying certain phrases, or finish all the dialogue and get a human whos native to edit it, best of luck
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>>7857642
>using AI
pathetic slop creator
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I think it's coming together allright.
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>>7856221
Thanks, and yeah I agree. Adding some other objects can help break up the scene and make it more interesting for sure. Another interesting thing I've noted is that it becomes annoying to draw when the grass is relatively close-up, like in my drawing. A huge meadow can be done pretty easily with the right marks (still gotta put in some work on the closest parts of course)

>>7856253
Thanks, I don't know where you got "game" from, but I get your point. I often use other manga as reference to figure out how to imply details, I even use my older pages at times to see what the hell I did it last chapter.
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>>7857894
I dont know either LOL I think I was in some other threads arguing about games on /v/ and wanted to stop doomchanning
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I've been getting a lot more comments on my work recently. I had someone basically ask for spoilers about hancock. It feels like I'm starting to actually engage people. I bet the consistent update schedule helps
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>>7858187
you draw tits and asses dude. dont let it go to your head
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>>7856963
and it didnt help him in the least
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>>7857327
What a silly question.
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>>7846542
>look at Fujimoto
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>>7858187
grats keep it up
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I was planning on getting my own manga serialized, hopefully this year if things go alright, but before that I have a book I wanted to get published. Since I'm doing the art for the cover and have an anime artstyle, plus put about 3-4 images in it like a light novels has, i was wondering if there was any light novel publishers that took western submissions? I know this might not be the right place to ask this but I don't know where else to go for a question like that.
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more pencils
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>>7858659
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Brush recs for ibisx?

Guy with the new tablet here, just need one for thin sharp lines
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how can you tell if you're trash and should give up or not? maybe I should just play video games and consoom at this point with AI and everything
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>>7858943
>how can you tell if you're trash and should give up or not?
Sent your work to any newcomer award.
https://mannavi.net/
If you don't win at least 佳作, it's time to call it a day.
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How common it is for a mangaka to have assistants that are 3x times more skilled than the actual author/have a decade or so more of experience to the point the manga looks visually good only thanks to them?

I'm going to start my own one shots and some mutuals on an higher skill level that mog me to no end (I'm little more than a beginner) are willing to help me as assistants.
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>>7856811
Try not having panel borders in places
Make the most interesting / action moment of a page larger
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>>7859304
Uncommon on the level of legendary. Never happens.
Do it and you'll know why, you are basically an anchor dragging everyone down, or your mutuals would (in good faith) suggest changes at every single page that will be better than what you sketched, to the point that it woud be dishonest to say they are your "assistants" and at that point it's a collab at best, or you are a being carried hard at worst
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I'm back to work and haven't touched my manga the whole week. Everyday I'm just too tired to draw. Gomen, /mmg/.
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>>7859304
Fujimoto is technically bad but he taught all those technical art geniuses how to write characters and tell stories in interesting ways.
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Whats a good android program that i can get as a one time payment instead of a subscription? I have CSP on my desktop i just want to be able to work on pages and designs when i'm out of the house too
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>>7859764
I thought CSP was one time payment
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>>7858513
moar
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>>7860114
Friendship ended with Dana. Penny is the new cute.
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Enter

Too bad there isnt an english equivalent for a "Jorge" guy
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>>7859955
Not on android
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>>7845739
Drifting Dragons's mangaka's channel for those who're interested to see how he works.
https://www.youtube.com/@kwbrtk/videos
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>>7860393
>spending 1 hours 35 minutes drawing landscape of a single panel which majority of readers will just look at no more than 3 seconds
AI could generate that kind of artwork in just under 10 seconds.
I don't understand why artists are so persistent for not utilizing AI in their work.
It's more cost+effort+time efficient this way.
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>>7860410
I don't understand why god made you a feces-worshiping indian, but maybe in your next life you will be given a soul
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>>7860149
I like this dude. He looks cool af.
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>>7860410
>I don't understand why artists are so persistent for not utilizing AI in their work.
Because I want it to come forth from *my* hands. Even with digital artwork and all its technological shortcuts and workarounds, I still have to manually move the damn stylus myself.
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>>7860410
post me a background made with AI anon
Let me see if the squiggles read as foliage, and th other squiggles read as mountain, and the other squiggles read as clouds. Oh don't forget the squiggles that read as common ground.
Let's see how AI does it.
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>>7860410
>>7860705
I think most people wouldn't bust your balls if you use ai to create generic modern buildings or rocks or stuff. But if your story is about being in a fantasy world then the environments are expected to be from your mind with deliberate grography, so ai wouldn't be cool then.

What AIfags dont get is we hate AI because the shills want to use it to replace the creativity for them.
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>>7860756
And forgot to say when I say using AI to make buildings and stuff, I'm talking about materials to trace. Not just plopping it onto the page as it is.
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>>7860756
They have no ideas. They just want the credit of a 'creator' without creating. Push button, receive praise.
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>>7860756
>if your story is about being in a fantasy world
Anons who make stuff like Oswald the Overman, Moon is a Liver, or AECAST would not be able to use AI (not saying that they would want to, just speaking generally). Their worlds are too fucking weird and/or fantastical to be able to just tell the AI to prompt some slop and move on, especially if their characters are going to be returning to the same places time and again. AI is horrible with consistency.
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>>7860769
um, but two more weeks
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>>7860769
They could loosely sketch backgrounds and feed it in to AI to clean it up if they wanted
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>>7860413
the problem with LLM "debates" is creative people are arguing with non-creatives. non-creatives will literally never understand until they are no longer
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>>7846542
How did dramatic comics change how you see the world?
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>>7846542
what world do you live in that most indie comic makers aren't already shitty SoL dramas?
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I finished 6 pages this week :)
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I'm not quite sure of how to tone backgrounds that actually have objects in it, but here we are.
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>>7860975
3 page is hot
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>>7860975
You missed the backgrounds
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>>7860975
6 pages is insanely good, good job. Outta curiosity, are you a wagie? Im trying to improve my speed, but the most I can do on a week night is half a page
>>7861025
I dont know how much the audience is gonna care, Most mangas have only an establishing shot, then mostly empty backgrounds
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>>7861032
Are they on the fucking moon, bro?
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>>7861037
I'm pretty sure these take place in some sort of mind void or something.
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>>7861020
I'm very happy with page 3. dialogue, the shots. all of it

>>7861025
>>7861037
earlier pages in this thread explain why we're in no background land. >>7853988


>>7861032
>are you a wagie?
I am not. but a a lot of my time is spent doing commissions and patreon work. I only make enough money to support my terrible cheap lifestyle. I recently started dedicating more time to devils moon so I can improve my output. I haven't been playing many video games recently ether.

>I'm trying to improve my speed, but the most I can do on a week night is half a page
I recommend practicing simplified forms. and trying to simplify the way your characters are drawn. I used to study a lot of storyboard artists for nick/cartoon network shows. their figures and shape language carried their character art rather than just detail and accuracy. also, I draw very loosely. I can admit that doesn't always lead to an amazing looking image, and sometimes I have to heavily correct things. but I focus on speed when drawing so I can finish my work on time.
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>>7861039
>I am not.
I swear to god, only like three of us are actual wagies in some capacity or another, and every single other anon here is a NEET.
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>>7861039
GMI
GMI hard
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>>7860975
impressive, keep it up!
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>>7861050
Nta, but to be fair I slaved for several years at some of the most awful places before being gifted with the opportunity to focus on my work full time (which by itself is a miracle) I'm curious though if the other anons are neets then why I can only think of about 5 regulars who are always making something new? Not taking it seriously enough? Sometimes, I just want to know the thought processes if this is true.
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>>7860568
>He looks cool af
unfortunetely he is a cynic asshole with mental issues
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>>7861130
>only think of about 5 regulars who are always making something new?
As in they're actually making pages, or...?
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>>7847881
I have a good feeling about this comic, I think it's going to turn out really well. Where can we find it on completion, friend?
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>>7860149
Jorge is just edgy
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>>7861130
neets are usually not known for their productivity
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>>7861236
Not every edgy is mental unstable or crazy
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Why are French mangaka artist so much more talented skill wise than American ones?
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>>7861337
Murica is a dictatorship regime. It has been for ages. A global propaganda regime ruled through media. Retarded Capeshit, Retarded Disneyfied reality, Retarded fake virtue signaling, unhinged worship of cruelty, violence and money. The result is a programmed golem, a calculated product, with the only function to obey, serve and consume CHEAP REHASHED crap without question.
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>>7861353
let's see your art from an enlightened free-thinker
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Useful info and relevant to this thread general, the 12 rules of comic/manga making:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1OsGZPRyrg
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>>7861201
thanks appreciate that, ill be spamming it on all sites once im done the first 2 chapters, 5 pages away from finishing chapter 1, which Ill post here when its done, to see what you guys think

Probably wont upload it for a few months, as I wanna atleast get the first 2 chapters done, and uploaded at the same time, cause they act together as the opening, introducing the 6 key characters, and their positions

>>7861337
I guess cause the markets more open and they consume more manga, theres alot more french people interested in making their own manga than in America, manga only became mainstream like 5 years ago, whereas France has been the second largest consumer for a while.

Maybe its that American companies dont understand manga due to it being newer to the markets.

I dunno, so much great media is American, but manga and comics are probably their weakest area, the one thing the french mog them with
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>>7861378
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>>7853023
Loli yuri, even better if the other girl is a hag.
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>>7861139
>Club Ninja

Underappreciated BoC album for sure
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>>7861378
did you just post a click bait video you ultra nigger?
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Anyone here use manga studio? How is it compared to CSP?
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>>7861353
you can call it a dictatorship, but that would be more honest than what it really is. America is more like a experimental vassal state for the rootless international banking cartel. Every social and economic injustice that comes from it is purely benign relative to that (yes including the orange man; the global conspiracy existing decades before)
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>>7861455
Try centuries, if not millennia. Tracing their genealogy goes back easily to Charlemagne, then more loosely all the way to the Phoenician Empire
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>>7861140
Yeah, at least 5 people who are consistantly working and publishing new things.

>>7861237
Heh, yeah that's true. I was like this at some point too, something about having too much time leads to classic procrastination.
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>>7861423
indeed
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last double page spread of the chapter. one page left.

>>7856203
would love a link to your work if you have one. been wanting to read your stuff since your collab entry.

>>7861100
love the shinso abe improvised firearm
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>>7861863
final page of the chapter

Read right to left
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>>7861863
Sure thing, I tend to spend quite a lot of time per chapter, so there's not that many of them yet. But I'm getting somewhat close to completing the next one now at the very least
readpristine.com
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>>7861100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZRj0zcUcw
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>>7861865
That 3rd panel zoom in of the panel 2 drawing is just lazy.
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>>7862185
I mean, it's also a direct copy of the page that came before it. Since i'm trying to make a point and illustrate change. I did the same kind of copying here >>7851265. I've also reused cut panels. poses from older pieces of mine, and entire characters from older works. I don't really care about cutting corners.
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making a weekly to monthly action comic as a one man team is like making a competitive multiplayer game as a solo dev.
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>>7860923
Nah. AI can't do my style yet. Grok thinks he's a bear lol. And I think any AI would make backgrounds better than I ever could, which would probably be more distracting than anything. My backgrounds are always just a wiggly ground line, and some dots and bumps as rocks or something.
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>>7862763
No it isn't.
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>>7861451
I don't, all I know is CSP is the best
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>>7861451
Isn't Manga Studio just how CSP used to be named?
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>>7863091
Manga Studio is what CSP used to be, so the code is built over it (which is why supposedly they've had issues optimizing it)
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I'm glad everyone is hard at work on their manga.
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>>7863654
Im not, im just wasting time, watching yt, playing video games, doom scrolling. It's hard to find motivation in this day and age
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>>7863654
I've been procrastinating for six years now. I'm waiting for the next thread to ask a question in hopes the answers will motivate me to finally start.
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New thread at:
>>7863826



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