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Since you guys were so passionate about paint in the last thread, what watercolor brands have comparable or better pigment content to Qor?I don't know if I can go back after these, but the price in Europe is pretty high.I've tried Winsor and Newton, M. Graham, Sennelier, Daniel Smith, Schmincke, Roman Szmal, White Nights and don't see much of a difference between them, but Qor is noticeably more pigmented
>>7885737I am oil painter, but sometimes i play around with watercolor. I dont get watercolor in tubes, i use pans. White Nights and Schminke are good. Winsor and newtons are not, too hard, too little pigment.>QorNever tried those, so my opinion is basically worthless for you.
>>7885705I love traditional art.
Completed with Holbein oil pastels and framed, also got a huge acquisition for an antique interior oil painting
>>7885756From an art dealer in London, shipped with a second one that’s a sunset landscape impressionist painting
>>7885758>interiornigga, that's a yard, you can see the coach
>>7885756>>7885758You're so cool anon. How did you got in the fine art business?
>>7885756>those prebag handsAI will never be able to compete.
>>7885756>oil pastelsHow do you sell those, don't they stay wet forever?
>>7885791Yeah but who cares, as long as when it ships it is in tact the precariousness of the medium is their problem to solve and not mine. If you break a precious vase is that the vase makers problem for making it so delicate?
Why is nobody ever talking about it, i dried my paintings for years in a complete dark room. Looking back, no wonder some paintings took sooo long to dry.https://justpaint.org/impact-of-light-on-the-drying-of-oil-paints-initial-testing/
>>7885806>WOAH!? THE SUN MAKES THINGS DRY FASTER!????>uhm eckschoolee oil oxidizesnot my problem, nerd
>>7885806the most important thing about how oil paint dries is that added heat doesn't increase drying speed like it would with most fluids. The way oil dries is through oxidization. The best possible situation for oil paint to dry on wood stretched canvas is a dry day in open air with minimal direct light exposure. the air to dry the paint, and the low moisture to prevent warping on the stretcher bars or mold on the canvas, after which most if not all residences, apartments, etc. are already basically equipped to handle art storage with how stale and uncirculated the air is now (thank the lobbyists that got cigarette smoking indoors banned for this). The uncirculated air in most homes now is also a huge reason why chemical fires from art supplies are a non-issue in today's art studios. There's no fresh air, there's no rapid oxidization of flammable substances, there's no fires.
>>7885816>the most important thing about how oil paint dries is that added heat doesn't increase drying speed like it would with most fluidsWell, ekschulii it does. As far as i remember cold temps and very low and very high moisture levels do slow down the drying of oil paint.
>>7885822The thing with oil compared to water is that it doesn't evaporate, right?With heat, water evaporates and thus the paint dries a little faster but with oil it's more a case of solidification that takes place before the paint feels dry.So it's different but with similar results.
>>7886006Heat accelerates chemical processes, haven't you ever noticed how much faster oil paint dries in summer compared to winter?
By the way, i found the best way to save dried up oil brushes so far.I tried regular solvents like sansador, white spirit or turps and the weak, even after days barely anything happens.Ammonia and ultra aggressive brush cleaner from home depot desolves dry paint better, but it completely destroys the brushes as well.Ethanol works the best. Damages the brushes just a little, but cleans all the dry stuff very effective. Not sure why it works, ethanol is not very effective in desolving fresh paint, i tried using it for cleaning brushes after a painting session, it works very bad for it.
>>7885940>bushes in a line>palms in a line>2 coconuts on each palm>fire levitating over the volcano>the two shadow circles in the foregroundextreme autism, cwc would be proud
>>7886032You know what linear perspective is, right? The guy is tracing random google pictures anyway, is not his design.
>>7886036Linear perspective has literally nothing to do with anything, prebeg-kun
>>7886041lol what?
>>7886036lol I definitely don’t trace and never have
>>7886032But like the other anon said, they are just random google images. I’m gonna make my own design soon taking what I’ve learned
>>7886032Think that one is autistic? Just wait until I finish this one lmfao
>>7885940soul
>>7886015LA’s Awesome cleaner (yellow stuff from the dollar store) is the sweet spot between weak detergent and paint stripper, dilute to 20-50% and soak after cleaning with solvents (for oil). Only thing that gets freshly dried acrylic, too. Will wreck natural bristles after too long of a soak, doesn’t seem to damage synthetics. Sometimes I use an ultrasonic cleaner from harbor freight for real nasty brushes as well.
>>7886138not him, but I have no idea what you're trying to say either, linear perspective means parallel lines converge, not that trees and bushes form linesyou seem to be conflating perspective and composition, which makes no senseredline it to show what you mean
>>7886328Anon here that made the discussed drawing. There is linear perspective if you look at the trees in the drawing this way . I didnt use a clear VP admittedly but the principle is still damn near the same to communicate perspective since the trees gradually decrease in size, which is a form of perspective in and of itself because the items decrease as they get further away from the viewer
>>7886469nigga, the issue is that the trees and bushes are arranged in lines, it's not perspective that makes them line up, are you genuinely autistic?
>>7886488However it still uses perspective is the point
>>7886499the point of what? nobody denied the existence of perspective or brought your use of it to questionlike what the fuck are you even talking about
>>7886516Alright
>>7886517keep a stiff upper lip, rainman
>>7886519You have to on this website
I tried out oil painting this weekend in a studio with a life model. It was both a fun and frustrating experience.
>>7886730Cool man, I know what it's like. How long was the pose?
So, I am convinced that planning the correct reflection -rfraction- translucency is a science itself, and, needs to be done effectively. How would refraction be done? I am having hard time doing how shapes are refracted. Also percentage of color in translucency. Basically, a whole composition and it's supposed colors and values, renders, based on realism and it's own materials. What do I do. Or how are things best planned?
I followed a tutorial today. I'll do some more tomorrow
>>7887173Very nice work. A very clear and understood depiction
I followed a - no I don't fuckin think so. There's different pages, different classes, different years, and different fukin subjects
Anyone got any recommendations for lighting for an easel? I'm looking for a good floor lamp, but everything looks like shit
Is animation traditional art. If so, how do one space motions.
>>7887746/trad/ is more of an analogue media thread really, so animation can fall under that umbrella.>how do one space motions.I don't know what that means, to be honest.
>>7886870thanks. I think it was about 2hrs per painting
>>7887754Do you not at least read Richard's ASK. You'd know. Or at least disney's 9 granndis BS. Or at least, sheesh , come on. You do not seem very traditional now.
>>7887794fuck off, retard
>>7887803Yea, enjoy your own fuckin anus.
Finally painting from my sketchbooks and pastels
>>7885705How to confidently draw upside down, correctly too, somehow mine do not, work so well unlike the other way around.
>>7887953stunning
>>7888274what's stunning about it?
>>7888335Your upcoming blowjob.
>>7888335like, the painting
>>7888384that's the it, the question was what about it you found stunning
>>7888387like, everything about it, okey
>>7888460for example? pick something and elaborate on it
>>7888462colors
>>7888472ok? what's stunning about them?fyi I'm not gonna keep replying if you insist on being a mentally impaired nigger
>>7888477what's your problem, i told you, everything about it is stunning?
>>7885705
Epic two way blowjob, totally unoriginal, uninspired, but technically, being a proper faggot. Ten out of ten, confirm a retard or dyslexic moron
I want to paint like Sanford Robinson Gifford, but I don’t dont think I’ll ever reach that level of skill.
>>7889518I don't even know who that is, but yeah, probably
>>7889527Hudson river school painter
Here is some artwork
>>7889561here is a comic im working on
>>7889562here is another comic im working on https://www.instagram.com/blanketman048/
>>7889561>Here is some artworkWhat does it mean?
>>7889568it means isolation mister ;-;
>>7889572isolate this
Any of you thought of making your own paint? Does it make sense?Seems incredibly cheap if you want high pigment content and not really complicated or high effort/investment. Is there a reason it's not more common?
>>7889681Some pigments are very hard to mill. Milling in general is very hard, it takes forever.You rather mill a little every time you paint, or you do a larger amount once. By large i mean 20-30ml, which takes forever. At least 1h, realistically more. Toxic pigments are in fact really somewhat dangerous, unlike toxic paint.The quality is alright, but not perfect. If you are a consistency guy, like i am, youre better of with premium paints.It can be fun, but its not very practical for every day use.Well the cost is a factor as well, good pigment isnt really cheap. In the end you will safe at best 50%. It hard to know how much the paint will cost in the end. Pigment is sold by weight. Paint is sold buy volume. Volume of dry pigment is different compared to paint, the volume shrinks. So as i sad, its hard to know how much the pigment really costs compared to paint beforehand.
what advice can you give me if I'm /beg/-tier at drawing and have never painted before but now want to learn to paint?thinking about starting with acrylics, probably gonna pick up a starter set from Michael's
>>7889706>thinking about starting with acrylicsIf you can afford oil, start with oil.
>>7889689>Milling in general is very hard, it takes forever.I've watched a guy on youtube making oil and acrylics and it doesn't seem that bad, something you can do in between shitposting.
>>7889741It depends, some pigments are very hard to impossible. But lets say you take an earth pigment, they are most of the time quite easy.You can just mix the paint with a palette knife, it will be shit.You can mill it for 5-10 minutes, like a small amount, 5ml maybe. And it will be probably okey, depending on pigment, but it will fall apart after 30min or a couple of hours. It work when you use it immediately. Still you need at least 5 pigment for a palette, that will take at least 30 min.But you cant can such low quality mixtures, it will separate. You will have to mill for at least 30min, probably more to be able to store. Even then you will most likly need to use some wax or something else to make the paint stable.I mean do it, its fun, you will learn a lot in the process about paint.Just dont think its a glitch for free paint or something.
>>7889757>some pigments are very hard to impossible to mill
>>7889681It would be incredibly hard and inconsistent. Unless you practice it for years.https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-the-recipe-for-an-old-master-might-include-egg-yolk-180981901/
>>7889757what size muller do you use?
>>7889766I use a granite mortar, but i dont put pigment in it, i use the whole thing over a piece of glass. The diameter of the bottom plane is about 13cm
>>7889765Using egg yolk to stiffen the paint, is not that complicated.
>>7889777Aren't the glass and muller supposed to be sandblasted for a fine tooth? From what I'm reading, the pigment is already finer than you can actually grind by hand, you're just breaking up tiny clumps of pigment, kinda sounds like you're making it difficult on yourself with inappropriate tools 2bh
>>7889785Granite is already cross, frosted glass supposed to work better, yes. But you are theory fagging too much for my taste, make some paint, get some experience, then we can talk.
>>7889793>crossLol, not sure what that supposed to mean. I think rough would be a better fitting word.
>>7889793You don't actually have experience with what I'm asking about, though, you're smearing paint around with kitchenware. It's like a finger painter having opinions on brushes. Have some self awareness, buddy.
>>7889793Nigga, you're decrying mulling as very hard to impossible when you literally don't even have a muller then getting butthurt when you're suggested that that might be what's making it difficult for youLike in what world is a tool with a handle specifically designed for mulling comparable to using what is basically a pot?If someone talked about hammering nails being difficult and taking a long time and then explained he doesn't have a hammer and hits them with a pan, you'd call him retarded
>>7889803>you're decrying mulling as very hard to impossibleOh, you're a retard, with comprehension problems. Do the genetic pool a favor and kys.>a tool with a handle specifically designed for mulling Good goyim, just dont use the ergonomic designed handle for your butt.P.S. the amount of retards this thread is pulling on a regular basis, is quite astonishing. Must be the fumes or something.
>>7889837>Milling in general is very hard, it takes forever.>some pigments are very hard to impossible to millBe honest, you're the cramp tard aren't you?
>>7889850Why yes, but ive never had cramps while milling, desu.Many modern pigments are not specifically design to be milled by hand.Natural Pigments do give recommendations for which pigments are suet for hand milling and which not.
artwork
>>7890687What does it mean?
>>7890697why are you making fun of me, fkn loser
>>7885756Sexy
>israel gets bombed>posting stops
>>7891370Wait, you mean Brian is not Italian after all?
Bought some Gum Arabic, mashallah will make my own watercolor paints.
>>7892003report back, I've been to the store today eyeing pigments, it seems dirt fucking cheap, but I'm not confident in the result
>>7889681I considered trying to get the blue out of acidified garlic into a lake pigment, because it's chemcially a "polypyrrole" and I'm curious about how it performs, but I just don't have the energy or time to do it with everything else going on man.It's quite a pretty color and I'm honestly surprised I've not found any record of someone having tried to do this.
OC painting
here sum inks>>7892148 I like the smoothness and the colorshift effect from the borderlines
>>7892159Thanks, anon! Those are some really nice waterfalls, and those birds look so serene. Always been a big fan of sumi-e type work
>>7889681i got a pound of Cinnabar from Guizhou. trying to grind it without poisoning myself. same for my paris green
What is the most modern art style?
Nobody tell him
Why not?
I've bought a Parallel Pen 1.5mm the red one and it's skipping all the time, even after cleansing. What can it be, my 6mm or 3.8mm run very wet with very little skipping. I use Sketch Ink most of the time.
>>7893009tranny flag colored sparkledog fursonas
>>7893392I don't mean this meme-shit, I'm talking about serious art. And my question is more about technique not the subject.
There was an illustrator from like the 1800s to the 1930s who made drawings that looked like they were literally in the middle of moving. He would use speed lines on the entire figure. The ones I saw were in black and white. I remember one piece being a guy spinning. Does anyone here know who this guy is???
>>7885756I'm too fucking new here.. But like how does anyone think that this doesn't look like shit? Fucking gooners
>>7893735Filtered by Big Cock Italian Stud, many such cases.
I made an abstract.Not sure if this is the right thread for this, I did look for an abstract art thread and couldn't find one.I've done a few before but it's never quite captured my mood at the time according to other people I've shown.This time was different though, I showed my sister and she was able to get the vibe I was going for.
what kind of paper/sketchpad should I get to learn how to paint?preferably something cheap because I am going to be shit at it
>>7893933Just draw, zoomie, no need to consume first.
>>7893936okay I'll draw in the meantime before I get brushes and whatever but you can't paint on normal printer paper right?
>>7893937Okey, just paint then.
>>7893937get paper that is at least 300 g/m2You'll get the hang of it soon and you will learn what works and what doesn't
>>7893937There's a "canvas-paper" that's cheaper than stretched canvas that has a simmilar texture, and is designed to be painted on.I'll take a picture of it when I get home.
>>7893937assumin you mean oil paint i highly advise painting on gessoed cardboard, just any old piece of cardboard. longevity is not so great but still decades and like you said your paints wont be greatif you mean acrylic paint then i recommend you use a LGBTQ flag as a painting surface cause that shits for faggots
>>7894042But acrylic painting guesso-cardboard is awesome anon, that's how I made this >>7893797I mean it doesn't look like much since I really don't know how to paint, but the surface is plenty paintable for a learner.
>>7894042Acrylic is alright for quick sketches. The drying time is annoying as fuck but everything else is bretty gud.
>>7894042>use a LGBTQ flag as a painting surface cause that shits for faggotsSuch edgy. I wonder what flag maga is painting on?
>>7894049i’m not MAGA. national socialism is way better than that shit>>7894046>>7894048acrylic has multiple downsides discussed at length on trad before, but it may be useful for monochrome underpaintings. acrylic paintings are super gay and bad tho. i’m a much better painter than both of you so take my word for it
>>7894053I will NOT take your word for it.Acrylic is annoying for how it changes hue but it makes up for it by being cheap and you can paint on everything, including in sketchbooks.I am also team oil painting for everything else though. I would NOT recommend acrylic paint to a beginning painter despite all of its advantages.
>>7894053>national socialismYou know only brown people fall for this meme?>i’m a much better painterI'm doubting it, pajeet.
>>7894057oil paint is just superior in all ways, mixing, handling, no color shift when drying, more pigments available (cant find lead white acrylic paint anywhere). no acrylic paint has thixatropic properties its also cheap just use earth tones. or get anjob. my tube of old holland cadmiu red lasts eons cause of how pigmented it is. its almost digusting how rich it is. the bullshit shift when drying is a dealbreaker just on its own. also i noticed female artists gravitate towards acrylic - bad news. anything making femingroids paint more is bad, they are probably painting black lives matter signs. they need to be in the kitchen making me a sandwich or preferably just chucked into a volcano. so yeah acrylic is woman coded. touching it makes you a retard who complains about MAGA on /ic/ apparently. this is a fascist thread you libtard
>>7894064>oil paint is just superior in all waysNot in drying time and being able to used easily in a sketchbook. Also, get your head out of your ass.
>>7894065>he thinks the lightning fast drying time of acrylic is desirable>he doesnt even know there are countless mediums to speed up drying time in oilssketch books are for, you know, sketching. with a pencil. retard. dont reply to me again
>>7894064>retard who complains about MAGA on /ic/ apparently. this is a fascist thread you libtardHoly fucking 0 lvl polak here. >>7894065>Not in drying timeYeah, sure.
>>7894063i’m white sar. here’s this painting i did recently on cardboard of that tranny’s suicide note it left on twitter (google long way down in quotes for the sitrep)approx 5x5 inch like my penis
>>7894073>i’m white sarDon't be too humble, Pajeet, you are an Aryan!>here’s this painting i did recentlyYou will never be Brian.
>>7894076brian agrees with me on every topic and thinks i am justified in my hatred of minorities, women, etc.did you not see his melty where he called out jews for trying to blacklist him from art?
>>7894064Nah, acrylics isn't good for sketching eighter.How do you manage the palette? Water color is more compact. Actually I know barely anyone using acrylics in a sketchbook. Actually i know barely anyone painting anything decent with acrylics in general.
>>7894073this is just AI generated.>>7894064Acrylics can be washed out easily, removed easily with water, are almost all non-toxic, and you can easily slow down their dry times with additives.I personally use open acrylics, which might I add, can be touched up the following day when really globbed on like you're supposed to do.What I really dislike about them is you don't get that texture and literal depth on the canvas/ cardboard/ whatever.Everything else about them I like, get em on sale and it lasts forever.Pros and cons, anyone saying that one is better at everything than the other is just wrong.
>>7894079You're glowing too strong, don't think you can bait me again and then stand at 5 o'clock in the morning with a search warrant at my door.
>>7894093didnt fucking read>ur work is ai haha
>>7894095just dont go missing for multiple days again brainalso stop playing LoL that shit is gay as fuck
>>7894093You don't get it. It's all about consistency and the consistency of acrylic paint is terrible.
I haven't been here in quite a while. Has Brian improved yet or does he still do low effort paintings for the sake of quick bucks?
>>7894123>Has Brian improved yet or does he still do low effort paintings for the sake of quick bucks?What do you think?
>>7894127Capitalism was a mistake.
>>7894129Indeed, tovarishch.
>>7894123hes making 8-10k a month gross now dude. hes winning
>>7894142Wall street billionaires make more. But are they winning when it comes to making interesting paintings?
>>7894121I find the ease of cleanup with acrylics worth it alone, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.If the money, and time were not a concern for me I'd probably have more appreciation for oil paints.
>>7894142There's a financially succesful traditional painter on /ic/??? Where can I see their stuff?
>>7894150brian comforti. his work isnt impressive. He jut cranks out a painting a day and has an ebay store
>>7894145he makes a living painting pictures and you do not
>>7894160He makes boring paintings and I do not. This is /ic/ and not /biz/.
>>7894163>I do not
>>7894171>this is /ic/ and not /biz/
>>7894163yeah he makes paintings and you dont. pyw
>>7894172Show some not boring paintings then.
I love BrianHe is the best of this generale
>>7894172this is a /pol/ thread, not an /ic/ thread you libtard femingroid
>>7894194umm based
A little bit of advice: responding to anons who don't post work is just inviting more trolls to come and derail the thread.
I will continue to have fun with acrylic paint in my sketchbook and you can't stop me :^)
>>7894218trannygouache is better for sketchbook if you must, thats why james gurney does tons of gouache plein air work
>>7894291>appeal to authoritylow T behaviorforce your own way
>>7894296that’s not even an appeal to authority. if i said gouache is better because james gurney uses it, it would be. paper just really isnt a suitable support for acrylic paint. your sketchbook is going to be lumpy as fuck unless you paint very thinly. you also have to carry more equipment when painting on site compares to gouacheanyway im gonna seize all your freak artwork for the next degenerate art exhibition when the trumpenreich expands globally so who cares anyway
>>7894300I'm not even the sketchbook anon but you really don't need more stuff for acrylics than you need for gouache. Both use water as medium, both need a brush. I hate acrylics as much as the next guy but you use the same amount of equipment for them.
>>7894300>>7894307Also I would even argue that acrylics are suited to most kinds of paper, as acrylics adhere to any kind of surface much easier just because of its plastic binder. For gouache you want paper that is at least suitable for watercolour.
how are you guys doing https://www.instagram.com/blanketman048/
>>7894064roids gravitating towards a medium is GOOD because 1) it makes it cheaper2) you're automatically getting attention just for being mediocre
Tried doing watercolor after a long time.
>>7894400have you, though?
yeahh, fuck all the bigotry in this thread… you people need help
>>7894605You know what always works on 4cuck?Whining about quality.That always adds something fresh, your bullshit bitching.
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>>7894605Art is intrinsic fascistic. Libs can't paint.
>>7894400skin better wet in wet
Commissioned work
>>7895061how much to pay you to stop posting here i can do 20$ its been like 5 years and you dont improve your ego just gets bigger because you can pawn off hotel art to stupid art hoes
>>7895066worry about your posts, you butthurt gypsy
>>7895061>>>/biz/
>>7895061What was the commission prompt?
I'm not paying 25 eussr bucks for an acrylic marker refill. Is there a recipe for a diy solution, can't find one? I think all i need is a very thin acrylic medium and a little bit of pigment. But which one to use, airbrush medium?
>>7892159Very cool landscape, love the use of negative space.I just finished this oil painting and haven’t painted with oils in ages. Usually in watercolor and it was nice to try oil again
going to wait for this to dry, then glaze in some colour and go in with full colour
>>7895451Not bad, but you need more control over transparency >>7895453I like the bird. But this plan>then glaze in some colour and go in with full colourdoesn't make too much sense. It's a modern American misinterpretation of historical techniques.
>>7895061Cartoony face, value focal point on the sheets, anatomy is pre-bag, left thigh is extremely long, feet and hands are blobs, that's some pre-school shit, brushwork and texture is random, without any intention, color is random. Its a tranime face and tits combined with some random scribles.That's some uintessential leftoid retard-art. Which isn't even true. Several years ago an old fart knocked on my door to sell me little postcards painted by actually disabled people, i gave him some money, now he comes every year and sends me stuff... whatever, the art is quite good, people without arms and with single digit iqs produce art that's much more appealing and on a higher technical level than yours. I will not mention any solutions, though, i don't need another visit from the politruk.
>>7895498Thanks anon, I’m glad you like it so far. Painting is always a daunting undertaking for me. I know the Dutch and Flemish tradition do it differently, but I am following the process of an artist I admire for this so I’m gonna stick with that for this one.
did a fantasy setting concept in watercolour + coloured pencil. Some giant cracked balls in a jungle.
>>7895072you havent improved. you're forever going to be a stuck low /int/. youre a video game addicted gooner retard, that is your lot in life.
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>>7895885still the best here lawlmethinks ur jelly
>>7895963>still the best hereBest in sucking dick, maybe.
>>7895963>best hereexcept when there's a better artist (like me) who clearly mogs you and then you start stuttering and talking about how you dont even, like, care and your art has more """"""""soul"""""""
>>7896067>>7896081I know ur samefagging because there's no way there are two losers here delusional enough to think they're better than meactually I don't even think you believe thatthe market definitely doesn't lol
Starter painting with gouache again, after years. I've forgotten how strange it is. It has a very long body, it's very stringy, as well. Feels like the same acrylic, mus be the same stiffener they use in both paints.Is there a short bodied gouache out there?I don't know what it is, in the last 5 or 10 years it started to appear everywhere. Soap, food, cosmetics... they cut the good stuff and put a thickening agent into it, to cover it up.
>>7896745gouache is a fake non-medium, you need to look at the actual composition to know what you're dealing withdextrin gouache behaves nothing like gum arabic gouache, which again will act widely different based on extenders, fillers, opacifier etc
>>7896750>gouache is a fake non-mediumI can see that now, wasn't experienced enough back in the days, to notice.I use mostly Horadam and Holbein. Horadam behaves more like regular watercolor. I have a W&N white, thats very strange. It's like a gel, very unpleasant to work with.
>>7889681for earth pigments in oil just buy the paint.it makes more sense for egg tempera, for historical methods, or for pigments that are not common/stable in tube paint. >>7889757as fresh paint rests, the particles become more efficiently coated in the oil, leaving you with paint that seems more oily than it was at first. you can then add a bit more pigment.
>>7897143>as fresh paint rests, the particles become more efficiently coated in the oil, leaving you with paint that seems more oily than it was at first. you can then add a bit more pigmentThat happens with some pigments. Ultramarine is a good example for that. You mix a paste, let it stand for a couple of hours and its liquid again, so you need to add more pigment.I think its a different effect, though, it gets liquid after a while, but if you mill it again without adding more pigment, it gets stiff again.
>>7897159erbium oxide does the opposite. It seems to harden in the tube quickly.
>>7897847I've never heard about this pigment.
>>7898135Light pink rare earth oxide. Used as a dopant/colorant for glass. I have only found one online source discussing it being potentiallty used in oil, and none providing documentation that after . I mulled some recently. I used a lot of turpentine to improve flow when packing it into the tube so it was aleready quite dry. I will probably try to reconstitute and re-tube it soon.
>>7898480I may be one of the first people to actually attempt mulling it in oil
>>7892159
>>7894046will gesso adhere to a nylon lgbt flag?I would use rabbit skin glue first>>7893797I think it looks good.
>>7898489No one cares. Post art or gtfo.
>>7898685I care, pigments are infinitely more important and relevant to me than your shitty paintings
I took what the (reasonable) anons in the last thread said to heart and made my first oil painting.It feels wayyyy different than acrylic, and I can definitely tell I'm gonna need to practice a ton before I start feeling comfortable with this medium (but whatever, I've barely gotten used to acrylic either in the 5 months I've been painting). But it's better than I expected, I had more fun working on this than any of my first acrylic pieces. What I'm most thankful for is that darks stay dark and don't turn into a matte grey when dry.
>>7898797>What I'm most thankful for is that darks stay dark and don't turn into a matte grey when dry.This happens quite a lot, actually, but it's easy to fix.P.S. whatch this video, its a bout a concept a lot of noobs struggle with. The video is not very good on an advanced level, but it's helpful for noobs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kshCks7warI
>>7898801Wait, whatdo you mean?I was talking about when painting with acrylics, the blacks always dry kind of grey. They just look way flatter and lighter than when wet.I don't see how the video relates to that. But it's a interesting video anyways, I instinctually started with a very thin wash of paint and gradually used thicker but seems like there is more science behind that.Pic rel is a acrylic painting slightly wet vs completely dry. Of course in different lighting but I'm sure you've seen this effect irl too and it's very apparent.
>>7898805ground pulls oil, black pigments like ivory and burned umbra are very oil thirsty, therefore even more prone to drying underbound.There are many methods to prevent sinking in or to reverse it afterwords.https://justpaint.org/oiling-out-of-dead-colors-in-oil-paintings-3/
>>7898813Alright well... I haven't had this issue at least not in this painting I think. I was still talking about acrylic
>>7898822>I was still talking about acrylicGloss varnish would help with acrylics as well. Modern acrylic paints use pigments that are pretty inert, the pigment itself will not change the color this fast.
hey I'm a nodraw /beg/shitter.would it be an absolute waste for me to take classes at a good art academy in my city?they'd teach me to draw live models and do bargue plates with an actual instructor but maybe I should teach myself to draw a bit first. the classes are minimum 3.5 hours and I can barely draw for 30 minutes a day.
>>7898866a good academy doesn't deal with shitters>I can barely draw for 30 minutes a dayyou don't want to draw
>>7898866>in my city?You know you have to be already a decent artist to even apply? Starting from zero, you would need to grind at least 2 to 5 years, to be good enough.
Making two Warframe paintings and then plan to do some abstract stuff to spice it up with lots of drips and breaking the BG into the figure. I've tried doing this kind of thing before without much success so wish me luck.
>>7898904well I'd like to learn to paint but I've been told you have to learn to draw first, and I clearly don't have the self-discipline/willpower to grind that out on my own. taking a class with an instructor sounded like it would help with that and I've heard going to do bargue plates at a legit academy is the good shit.the mountain looks insurmountably tall from here.
do u guys like colored pencils
>>7885705Where can I find this painting in a higher quality? It's beautiful, but I don't see it freely available online.
>and I clearly don't have the self-discipline/willpower to grind that out on my own.you do, but it would take much longer than being in an environment in which you're required to. Having accountability and feeling peer pressure elevates your work load, a lot of d/ic/ks do not know bout this because of the reclusive nature of this site. Drop your ego and try it out even if it doesn't work for you I guarantee you would've learned something that you wouldn't learn being by yourself.
i can't figure colors out. I just want to paint like thomas cole.
>>7899689Yeah, its always the same with you, i-want-to-paint-like-%old masters name%-folks, you want the results, but you don't want to put any work into it. How many serious master studies you done? If less than 3, go fuck yourself you lazy cunt.
>>7899700I've been painting since 2016.
>>7899703That's not an answer to my question, innit?
>>7898813only happens if the ground is improperly prepared or you paint a passage too thinly eg too much turps not enough pigment
>>7899857This is false
>>7899722I havent done master studies because I don’t have access to a high quality image at life size that I can copy
>>7899944>I havent done master studiesWow, what a surprise.>excusesI don't care.
>>7899947Resources are a part of self-study. How do I learn how to layer and glaze from a master when a book clearly cannot show what a painting actually can.
>>7899950It's over you will never gonna make it.
>>7895061This is really good.
>>7895061This is really bad.
>>7900348Mashaalah!>>7901047Oy Vey!
>>7895061This is really sellable.
i have a question for those of you who are lucky enough to do commissions. or those who paint for other people in general. how do you handle the drying times? especially for oil paints. do you store the painting for the amount of time needed before applying the final varnish? or do you deliver the piece to the customer as soon as its completed? do you charge for storage? is that assumed in your pricing?for the record, i am basically pre-beg. im not asking this from the perspective of someone who needs help in my own situation. this is basically just me trying to sate my own curiosity.
>>7901079It depends.
>>7901079i don’t do commissons but i mean there are plenty of options available to speed up drying times, alkyd mediums like liquin are incredibly popular. some artists have UV light setups to dry faster but it is usually not necessary (retards will tell you this damages the paint but old masters used to leave paintings outside in direct sunlight for days to achieve desired effects and their paintings will still be around long after we are gone)>>7899880if you mean the fact that umbers go chalky when they dry, that’s something you solve with a quality varnish which restores depth. oiling out is only necessary if you are going to work over the top of an already cured passage of paint.oiling out before varnishing is poor practicehowever. it’s NOT true that this chalky drying happens to every dark value oil paint. it just isn’t. whereas all acrylics have tone shift when they dry regardless of value or pigment.
>>7901079>>7901233oh, and gamvar is a very popular varnish because it can be applied before the painting is fully cured so you don’t have to wait 12-18 months.
>>7901235Any varnish in Europe that can be applied relatively shortly after drying?
>>7901588Retouching varnish applied over uncured oil will most likely fuse with the paint layer. You could just oil out the sports and varnish after curing.
>>7901588Gamvar is available in Europe, nigger. I'm a yuro and I have it on my shelf.
>>7901233Like a whore... That's art
>>7893735You'll need to be immersed in art for at least a year and get good yourself to realize the merit of that piece. However it was made by a beginner, yes, but there's talent.
I dislike this cast now. Definitely not my best drawing but it's time to move on the next.
>>7902752It lacks some clarity and sharp edges, but It's quite decent.
>>7885756ADHD, 0 attentionspan artstyle
>>7885756based brian triggering the nosale permabegs
>>7902839really what it comes down to. if you can't communicate enough to elicit a reaction, your art isn't communicating enough, or not communicating something at all
>>7902853It’s not his art that is communicating something, it’s him claiming he’s this amazing artist that’s eliciting the responses he gets, even though his art really isn’t very good. If he was some unknown rando on this board posting onnoynart and no text he’d get zero (you)’s
>>7902869but he isn't unknown, he does get replies and he does get saleshmmmm almost like you're just seething about his art being good and eliciting reactions and transfers of money
>>7902869onnoynart?
>>7902875*only artphone fucked up>>7902873cope harder mate
>>7902881>cope harder mate
>>7902882that's not my work, try and troll better
>>7902917try and paint better lmoa
Rate me?
>>7902920I'd like it more if it was a human, buggs being drunk doesn't really do anything for me.
Some progress. Colours are less cool irl but I took this pic at sundown and my phone cam isn't great. This shit took me all day jfc.
>>7903621You need better shape control.>>7902920>Rate me?At least better than Brian.
>>7903624Anything a little more in depth? Would appreciate it.
>>7903627Use the edge of a brush or a palette knife to paint some sharp edges.
>>7903699Thanks, I see. However as you can probably see, this is still very much a work in progress, I haven't even gotten to covering most of it with colour. I'm not putting in razor sharp edges at this point. Edge quality typically is something to focus on in the later stages of a painting. Also, considering the texture of feathers, i feel there is not a great deal of need for sharp edges.
>>7903730You need to change your technique to have a greater emphasis on edges, in general. Otherwise, you will end up like Brian.
>>7899366Look already abstract to me.
Did these before bed
>>7889681where i live its not very economical to make your own oil paint. in theory you can save a lot of money making your own gesso (chalk + rabbit, etc), but i havent yet tried it. ive made my own oil sticks (melting oil paint + wax) considerably cheaper than buying r&f ones. i plan to make my my own chalk pastels soon.
>>7903857>where i live its not very economical to make your own oil painthow so?
>>7903908in nz local art stores charge a premium for dry pigments + international shipping is expensive. perhaps saving money is possible if youre committed to spending hundreds of dollars and many hours to make enormous amounts of paint, but for the most part its impractical.
>>7903917It's uneconomical for everyone these days. Mulling your own paint is bullshit in 2026, might be nice as a pastime but I bet the faggot blathering on about making their own paint doesn't even use what he made. Pigments are expensive unless you buy it in bulk, mulling it by hand takes a loooot of time and even then it is very possible the resultant paint doesn't hold up well when put in use.
>>7903951Pigment is dirt cheap if you're not retarded, brick and mortar stores will have 20 year old stock because nobody buys it. The store near me still has PR108 for $15/lbp.
>>7903804Four more pages today
>>7904243
>>7903951hand made paint in the traditional way isn't the same as tube paint, so it still fills a purpose. however the value of the benefits for hand made paint vary among artists and few would truly make use of their benefits. complaints about it taking time or not being a good product are issues of skill, laziness, or misunderstanding the qualities of hand made paint. artists who have never mulled paint before want to make a large batch and store it in tubes when some of the mechanical characteristics that makes traditional paint good are also why it doesn't store well in tubes.
I did it artsisters! I started my first exhibition. it's at a library with a hipster caffe.
>>7904652proud of you.
>>7904652You're already mogging Brian.
>>7904685Everyone itt who posted work mogs Brian
>>7904685>>7904716permaseethe
>>7904652Nice! Good job! And the paintings look fun as well!
>>7889567Looks great. Do you use mostly ink and watercolors?
>>7904652me: shows up at your exhibition>well well well, what do we have here? an art exhibition? more like a shart exhibition>joke doesn’t land but some roasties in the store still laugh cause im a tall handsome chad>*kicks over a couple of your paintings off the wall and then snaps the frame of one in half*that will teach you to try showing your art to the world
>>7905094BASEDASED
>>7905094Brian, have you sniffed the powder again?
My art instagram is fucking trash. I really gotta just be a humiliation sissy fetishist and start making fucking glossy princesses in ethereal landscapes no one likes this pseudo renaissance and dragon shit. Only women buy art.
>>7905210>>7905213I like it. The purple dildo autist could learn a thing or two from these.
Tried a more Neo-noir atmosphere for this, being more expressive about what the story elements are
>>7905346permaprebeg
>>7905346best itt
>>7905569>cropping it digitally weak
>>7905569Painting is decent, drawing is weak.P.S. still miles ahead of Brian of course.
>>7905569Wow, Brian really mogs you
>>7905569you still havent solved the value range problem
>>7906243>>7906223>>7906215My life is a failure. Hopefully I can improve or I will neck myself soon. I do like 2 hours a day trying to make it a profession because I have nothing else because I'm a lazy NEET with a humanities degree LOL. Hopefully I ramp it up to like 5 hours consistently. Although that sounds cruent. Not only that but I feel like to make it I need like 8 hours probably. I don't even like art that much but it's okay I guess. Probably beats being a wagecuck. It's not like I have an option. If I end as a wagecuck at my advanced age I should shoot myself in the head. I am of very weak will and a pussy all around. I blame my parents, genetics and depresshun. Luckily I am on Jewish pharmaceuticals, which can elevate my genetic stats by a significant percentage. There's only so many humiliations my mind can take I am so weak. But I don't mind your critiques or assessments I appreciate them. I'm just venting in general. Let's see where this leads me LOL. It's a bleak spot. I'm not trying to pity party though. I should have been a physics phd not a fucking faggot 30 year old fraud trying to make it as an artist because it's all I know how to do because I was so lazy I did nothing with my life. Sometimes I think of getting revenge on the world, but I'm too much of a pussy to do it and why would it make sense. The world is an abstract concept xd. Either way that was my blog I will start a new paintnig. I think I will focus on sissy paintings of hyperfeminine women since women are the main art buyers and the ethos of society is that of soulless automaton males and the aesthetic elements are purchased and only processed by women. It's masculine in an industrial sense but feminine in outer appearance. I will say no more xd.
>>7906401Jesus christ maybe you should up your meds. I'm glad this thread is autosaging now.
>>7906413I woke up in an optimistic mood today uwu, sorry for that shpiel.>>7906398I added more saturation at front and more blue at background but the blue looks ugly as sin. I had been doing other paintins for a while tho may return to it
>>7906401average mental state of a trad poster tbqh
>>7905569reminds m e of a fantasy book cover published in the late 70s. You would be a skilled poster designer.
>>7906884no he wouldn't
>>7906970dont be so tough on me im learning fuUuUuUuUudk
I miss him folks
>>7907191no you aren’t
Critiques?
>>7907920its ok
>>7907960what's ok about it
>>7907993it looks cute, shapes are decent
>>7908018wrong
>>7908024fuck you
>>7908407
>>7907399oh hey, is it you, Himmler-anon?
>>7908691how many himmler fags do you think this thread has?
>>7903621this is quite cool, especially the head. what's it leaking?
