If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7915767
Omg he even linked the wrong previous thread
>>7920819Previous thread>>7918269>>7918269Here you go, post your work
where's the cool compilation pic
>>7920822those were the only cool drawings everything else was dogshit
>>7920823Fuck you
>>7920815Never making it to the OP...
>>7920825He's right though, if you want to make it to OP just get gud.
THREAD CHALLANGE
>>7920823I hope this is a falseflag
>>7920822If you look closely uit is a composition... the frog one even fits well. I guess that rare /adv/ poster deserves to hog the entire thread cover pic, but it's not very representative of /beg/ & /int/
Fixed it a little bit, idk might try again...
>>7920823Damn. Harsh.I even put in more effort that thread than usual.
>>7920823do you have anything against my big titty anime girls m8
>>7920831...........Thread is starting very strong. I wonder how people even start at this pre/beg/ level.Surely they lived long enough to comprehend basic anatomy ... I am not expecting good 3d shapes, ofcBut surely you know that an arm does not have 2 ellbow joints.How old are you?Don't answer if underage.
I love how every /beg/gars crying because their drawing is not in the OP pic. give up bro you don't want even want critique or advices to improve you just want get praised from others.
>no work posteddon't care
You're trying way too hard.
New thread reposta
>>7920835Post your big titty anime girls m8, I'm fairly certain they had anatomical and structural errors and were very much: 1girl white void with no interesting perspective
>>7920843Good shapes.
>>7920845I was just joking but here >>7918497
shaded this a lil bit and put it in the scrapbook
>>7920831>try againOnly if you completely scrap that turd and start over. There's nothing to salvage.
>>7920837I think we want advice, but there is none to be had here (unless you count nodraw critique slop).Praise (-> recognition) is the next best thing and it motivates to draw more.
idk why dwemer ruins, which are a big part of the mage's guild quest line, are filled with heavy melee orcs that just fuck shit up
>>7920831They should have put this in the OP!
>>7920831Finally someone that belongs in this thread thank god
Doll lost.
Past the point of no return and i'll probably just do minor edits to the background + colouring from here on. what are some blatant fuckups that i can avoid next time because something looks off to me and its bugging me
>>7920832Looks like I was right. A lot of your faces look a bit wide and wonky in the jaw and head structure. On the bottom left the girl crossing her arms looks flat and awkward and I would personally change it so it reads a bit better. The top middle girl with her hand on the table has a weird transition from her wrist to hand and overall looks a bit too large from this angle.
>>7920865what compels a grown ass transwoman to draw steven universe fanart of all things?
>>7920865what is he supposed to be thinking about
>>7920869why is it grown ass every time, no one just says grown anymore
>>7920867I don't think I have drawn a girl crossing her arms in the past few weeks. That must ve some confusion.
>>7920871The ghettoficiation of all online discourse.
my art (not this) has been flopping on tiktok recently, feelsbadman
>>7920867this d00d can't even reply right kek
>>7920875Is tik tok good for art? Do you post timelapses or something else? Been thinking about starting one
>>7920872Ah yes I meant to reply to this guy drawing the anime titties.>>7920850I don't particularly like to frequent this forum as much these days. I'm getting too unc for this without my Chrome extension >>7920876
dang just noticed that the right foot is weirdly thin but i still don't think thats it>>7920870building a cool mech to embarrass a retarded little gremlin who only has enough brain power to put together a stinky box>>7920869I think the girls in the show are cute and i'm 'fraid my penis is still intact.
Quick and dirty look at the Venus torso from the last thread. Using a pen actually feels incredibly freeing after beating my face against the tablet and suffering with a pencil. I'm noticing I have a habit of making torsos (possibly shapes in general) wider than they should be
>>7920871Wait until this lil chuddie learns that descriptivist usage of language won decades ago.
I keep trying to draw in weird or unconventional angles to practice.
>>7920865you're really good + pearl is a cutie
>>7920867>>7920882You forgot the part where you attach your work to make your post worthwhileSo I know it's someone skilled giving advice and not a bitter begschizo
>>7920881some do but i dont post timelapses, i stick to art w a corresponding video format if that makes sense, i guess animatic would be the word (?)a fairly low effort video of mine thats just some non animated still-frames of maybe 7 very simply rendered art pieces edited to music + added on filters got me 400k views & 80k likes. another vid which was just two (also fairly low effort) art pieces in a slideshow format got me 46k likes.
>>7920895I did, it was last thread. >>7919758
How the fuck do I get better at obersvation/drawing a refrence? must it be perfect before moving to perspective
>>7920895frenchy, he's retarded but the one critique i would give is i think (I do the same thing) in your 3/4ths or semi 3/4ths you're making the nose too close to the side of the face and the eye too far away from the nose/middle plane. like id just bring the noses a bit more toward the center (don't take this too seriously idk but just try and see if it feels right I may be wrong)
>>7920899that's not your post + I'm not even sure if an anon actually posted it because why would this guy be posting here at his level lol
>>7920905He posts all the time in the /draw/ thread frenchy.He was the same guy who worked on the ballroom dancing picture in the draw threads too, guy has been here all the time
>>7920906that's different, this is begint and it's a shithole (also not frenchy)
>>7920909So? /draw/ is usually dead as with most of this thread in general. Many people from /draw/ and other generals end up posting here anyways due to higher traffic.
>>7920899>he actually made the the thread with his own work as op picholy shit, that's very narcissistic even when I was the OP, I never put my work in the pic>>7920906its no me but it's good to know who he is, he comes wanting to flex in the beginner thread calling all the other drawings dogshit, pretty pathetic from his part
Di i really need to do shit like drawabox to draw [spoiler]occasionally NSFW[/spoiler] fanart of these goobers?Do i really need to use the liner pens instead of doing it digitally?
>>7920913no but just practice a lot. good taste btw
>>7920912>>7920911flexxing on people who have drawn for a few years when he's drawn for 20+ is insane if it is really him, it can't be. no one is that retarded
>/beg/ meltdown because someone didn't praise a circlejerker who uses these threads as a social club for affirmation
Some sketches I did today I hate how smushed everything looks
>>7920886don't call yourself a descriptivist if you're afraid to ask why
backgrounds are hard
>>7920905>russia/lithuania>self esteem problemseverything makes sense now
>>7920902 Perfection mentality is self-harm
>>7920815Whoever made this guy the OP, I hope your intentions were good because you're just inviting crabs to shit on this guy or seethe with jealousy/insecurity. I think to anybody that this painting is making feel insecure, you should ask yourself why it is that you feel insecure. Recognize that this board is a crab bucket. You're used to seeing mediocrity. When someone who is clearly skilled ventures onto here, your reaction is to attack, is it perhaps because you've grown used to feel superior among the mediocre? This is your wake up call. There's always a bigger fish, this board can breed complacency and stagnate your growth. Let the painting and skill inspire you rather than make you anger.
>>7920912actually threadmaker here. i'm not the same guy who drew the OP pic. I collected the most soulful and best looking ones to collage and that's pretty much it
>>7920912Damn, those are good begops
>>7920918>drawn for 20+are you telling me that people in their 40s and 50s post on 4chan? in the fucking /beg/ general?
>>7920933>>7920912Repost as big pics, please
>>7920934yes
>>7920934Yes, actually. A lot of oldfags still lurk and occasionally post.
>>7920925The floor perspective looks a little off but I like the composition
>>7920935https://litter.catbox.moe/lz2cddu1web6n3gl.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/k2iakn3hpy8omxav.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/j4sirgpbck5e5oev.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/k3youqvk0izwrgvn.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/zl2akv95m9aakc66.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/b9canb6ek60g6qkm.jpghttps://litter.catbox.moe/xqf86jvguq16dqzx.jpg>>7920903thanks bro, I'm still processing the hide head course, I can try to change some of the shapes
>>7920932>shit taste>tripfaggingextraordinary
extremely rusty at drawing figures from imagination
>>7920940Starting to realize how many monster cocks/futa there is in these threads
>>7920940Damn these really blow this OP out of the water
>>7920940btw its deer who gave the head advice so as i said take it or leave it I'm only aware because I make a similar error every time I try to draw anime but worse lol with like. the nose eye thing. i always make one eye float into the void. so take it with a grain of salt
>>7920925The composition is a bit cliche. The "depressed anime girl smoking a cigarette" crap has been done to death by ironic weebs. Artistry is all about creativity. You do have creativity, right?
>>7920940I still think what the guy said was valid. Just because it's harsh doesn't mean it's not true
Female Psycho Warriors x Word Bearers. Tryna figure out how to make them look more Demonic, but not overly so.Also how to fix the composition (Chestnut's Pose is stupid but I think it's cute). I want the scene to look like Space King is about to curse the Female Psycho Warriors, Like God giving Caine the Mark of Caine.Important question is... Does it Vibe?
Is it valid to spend my first 2 or so years focusing exclusively on sketching and lineart (with some simple monochrome shading)? I don't want to become a render monkey, and I feel like learning how to color stuff well will eat too much into the time I could be spending to improve my other fundies.
>>7920951>Female Psycho Warriors x Word Bearers.
>>7920950criticisms are valid, but the point is flexing his painting here while calling everything else aside his own work dogshit in the beg thread is rude as fuck, even more for being a literal boomer in his 50s
>>7920875How does it work on Tiktok anyway. I thought you could only post animations, do you do speedpaints or those meme challenges or just five drawings with shaky transitions and some phonk music.
made a other copy since trying to make OC makes me suicidalhow do I make cartoon style OC? looking at irl references makes me draw autistic realistic everything, it's like i immediately forget everything
>>7920964>>7920898those animation meme challenges are very difficult to keep up with, a new one starts trending and replaces it so quick.
>that schizo that only draws their fixation OC and never tries to improve
I'm still really proud of this one
I'll be honest, freehand perspective is just whack. I gave up halfway and had to do at least a grid and some pointers to orient myself.
>>7920972Cyclops xisters...
>>7920925blog?
>>7920964This is beautiful anon and if you refined it a bit more I would print it and put it on my work desk.
unfocused doodling
>>7920981You can just say you like it bro, you don't have to lie to the guy.
>>7920925honestly, it's not bad at all but there's nothing going on with the backgroundslap an AC unit, some rust, some streaks, some posters, etc. something that adds detail
>>7920292A bit more
Already working on another one.
>>7920925Blog? I want to see more of your work
>No improvement in a yearThis is what my first drawing looked like.
>>7921009u have improved ppl are just dicksu should try to redraw that exact pose one of these days tho to really show the difference
>>7920985It is a nice concept and pose. The art is a bit crude but it does have potential.
>>7921011I remember CasyTay told me she was legitimately impressed with how much I've improved over such a short period of time.
>>7921009dont pay attention to retards harshly criticizing you or people that bait you m8
>>7921012Uh, anon... Printing off some random anon's digital drawing of a random character in a white void and hanging it at your work desk is the obvious lie...
reposting here since i was too late:i drew the cloud image as well, >>7920492>>7920471you wrote i could/should draw something for at least 2 hours. i did, it took me 3+ hours for this still unfinished image.also did the "loomis"!?now i think what to do next.
>>7921024Definitive evidence that painting is significantly easier than drawing.
>>7921024unfortunately i dont know the first thing about painting clouds so i cant help you
>>7921032not that i wanted advice about it- not like i'm going to repeat it again- took me 7+ hours after allbut, what do you notice you dont like? any part of the cloud that is mentionable?
>>7921028well maybe it would have taken only half an hour if i knew what i was doing and was experienced with the tools
>>7921037the white line meeting the ground looks unnatural
>>7921046well that's where i started doing shit because i did not want to put more effort into it.
>>7921014but how?
>>7920292>>7921003How do I learn to draw like you?
>>7920815just bought a new tablet and tried to do some pokemon out of respect for where it all began years ago (before i got too scared and quit)its so much better than my old onei know it should be boxes or line control or whatever but fuck it im trying to have some fun in years with a pen and not be a pussy ass bitch about my hobbieshow is everyone
posting the original cloud ref here for posterity (not the original because I saved it to pureref instead of downloading the original)>>7920532thanks for the insight! there were some landmarks on the original that threw me off like the mass of dark blue shadow on the bottom left and the strip of shadow on the bottom right which makes the shape harder for me to decipher though. I hadn't considered that the light parts could be as small as that and still work
what do I fix
>>7921065resolution
>>7921065You might want to place some shadows on either her palms or her chest so that we can what she's doing with her hands easier.
>>7921065i think the eyes should be sligjhtly closer together
>>7921065her eyes definitely feel a bit small, but yeah, >>7921069 is on pointthere's a lack of contrast with her skinif you greyscale your image, it'll probably look like just one single grey shade
>>7921069Is the contrast for the hands better?
>>7921076it looks like he doesn't have eyebrows
>>7921076go thru some dark-skin artworks and check the color palette when they go from normal to shaded skin, you'll see a huge difference
>>7921083qtbut i feel like she has no hips, like the height of her body and the legs is not right maybei know she's sitting and all but yeah
i already told more then enough last thread about how much i resent effort and skill, and like crudeness, so, here, a drawing and a question:what style would be the best to adopt in the future? i think anime-like-drawings aren't useful to draw, but i am already pretty familiar with them. Comics/stickmen are always easy, though still "bad-looking" unless i add new things that make it complicated. alternatively, i could dumb it down even more by just drawing the cheapest stickmen and slapping basedjak templates on them/only changing the emotions, to even easier create something, OR, if i want to be crude, i could start being abstract and stop drawing entirely, instead just using shapes like triangles as abbreviations for persons being there. got any other ideas what would work?the goal is to have an optimal "quality-for-effort" ratio with a low "required-learning" ratio (the less effort required the better)i dont have much experience in drawing sketches/comics/other things, so some of you probably have more knowledge!
>>7921085Ngmi
>>7921088i already almost made it, just in non-art categories. yes, i seek to be art ngmi, i have seen what you consider good art, and it is all bad. at least bad enough to me to not desire being "good".and also, you just replying "ngmi" is rude. why don't you respond to my question?i think one day i will make it, even in art. but only when i will start trying
>>7921084Yeah her torso is too short
>>7921090Often anon speculate whether talent is real and if it is, how much it matters. While it is still much debated one thing is true: anti-talent exists. People so bad they cannot escape pre/beg/ status. Why is that so? It can be extreme mental illness or a brain dysfunction like autism - but generally it's low IQ. Low IQ is the key to completely unskillful drawing.I look at your work and I know you are too stupid to ever improve. This is also why I doubt that you have made it in other areas. While difficulty differs, to really make it, one always needs intelligence.Delusion is a big factor in not improving. So it's a double whammy right here.
>>7921097>insult insult insulti repeat. you should go back, and start becoming good.
>>7921099It's not me, so you didn't repeat it. You'll encounter many such responses and they won't be by one or two people.Yes it is insulting, but packaging it into kindness would be very difficult. How else to tell someone that he is too retarded to ever get good? I'm just afraid that this sparks a defiance in you, so you start drawing to prove us all wrong. But it'll be a folly. You will spends hundreds of hours and still draw worse than someone with a healthy brain who drew seriously for a week.Is the person who feeds the delusion really the better person than the one who can see plain as light that you will ngmi?Where outside of drawing do you believe yourself to have made it?
>>7921097>Low IQ is the key to completely unskillful drawing.Unironically this. Talent is just how well you can absorb knowledge. If you're retarded you're just fucked.
>>7921083that leg is all fucked up
>>7921097>Low IQit's not iq, some of the dumbest people ever are mogging everyone in this thread. It's talent. I know masochistic self hating faggots like to think it's IQ because then it feels like there's some logic to it and they're being rightfully punished, but it's just random.Drawing is just a bunch of dos and donts, like writing music or fighting. It's like a bunch of switches or variables you can tweak. Talented people just naturally do it the correct way instead of doing in the wrong way. People without talent can figure it out through gruesome trial and error but IQ won't help you much past the the point of figuring out it's about trial and error.
>>7921110You can learn to learn better over time talent may speed up starting but you can earn talent faster by leaning how to learn.
>>7920875Flopping?Mate I barely get views on xitter
another doodle
>>7921179Looking good so far, post the ref?
im talentless and extremely lazy and recently people have been telling me im improving so i think the secret is actually just spending more time on each individual art piece lel
>turns out the secret to improve is actual practice!woah
Tried to “draw the shapes of the shadows and use them as guides” as per the advice I got last thread. Think it helped a fair bit. Looking it over it seems the weakest bit is the shape and size of the shoulders, which of course is also where there was the least shadow to use as visual guide. I also see what you meant about low shadow/overlighted references being garbage for learning. >>7920885Solid attempt, shits hard. Drawing with pens is what freed me from my perfectionism. It made me have to see and accept my mistakes and actually try and improve.
>>7921179Great.Very nice colors, very convincing simplification
>wanted to make tasteless coomer art for personal use in a vidya>generate some AI images>have to constantly redraw stuff because of artifacts making the image look like shit, but because I can't draw, these fixes are also shit>ultimately decide that if my dreams are to be realized, I must learn to draw from scratch>I mean, how hard can it beFor /beg/'s amusement, I present: an attempt.Is there a way to get line weight while mouse drawing? I did a bit of pencil drawings in the past, and while I never advanced further than bad drawings of rocks, I liked the element of adding line weight to stuff. I know with tablets a lot of software will read the pen pressure to change the brush size to get a similar effect, but I don't know if there's a way to emulate this while drawing on a mouse.>>7921179I like this goose, anon.
>>7921193>wanted to make tasteless coomer art for personal use in a vidya>generate some AI imagesYou could have just stopped here, your goal was already achieved.
>>7921193hold on man AI image is already looks awesome enough.
>>7921193>Is there a way to get line weight while mouse drawing?I haven't actually tried these beyond basic testing but all these variables will work with a mouse in Krita, I assume other apps have similar dynamics options. Other than that I'm not sure what you'd have in mind, maybe there's a plugin to do something weird with the mouse wheel but that sounds awkward to me.
>>7921085>i resent effort and skillGive up on this hobby and go gen AI slop.
>>7921085bro didn't hide even tried to the fact this is a bait. let me give you some (You).
>>7921193>mouse drawingCease this pointless folly
>>7921216Be quiet I want to see how this ends
>>7921193>>79210857 years fag changed his bait strategy?
FUCK sketching it is booring and painful.I don't understand how anyone enjoying that.>by doing light sketch you know what your final result look like and you can changes mistakes/proportions or whatever before the final result.ok i know it right i just found it not fun to do it.
>>7921204>>7921209But anons... the hand?>>7921210Thanks, anon, I'll have to mess around with these until I find something that works well.
>>7920957God it's so adorable and your style is irresistible I love it anon
>>7921224Almost as ngmi as the guy who resents skill and effort.
>>7921226No one cares
>>7921193wouldnt it be quicker to just learn how to fix up ai art instead of learning an entire other skill
>>7921193just tell ai to fix hand don't be this lazy.
>>7921054You don’t want to draw like me, study someone good.
>>7921226Add in the negative prompts "bad anatomy" and add in the prompt "masterwork anatomy" and it's fixed.
>>7921193Honestly, if this is not a troll and is the first step in your process into actually learning how to draw, then you'll have a hell of an origin story to tell people years from now.
>>7921236t. gets 13k likes on twitter for a gooner sketch
>>7921236I want to at least get to your level then level up.How do I get there? How did you get there.
>>7921244I try to study how artists I like draw faces and proportions then implement what I see in my drawings. Construction is very important for posing it seems but I’ve only just started trying to get better at poses and perspective. Pretty much just keep drawing and make an effort to figure out why your art looks worse than the art you admire.
Part 1/2I'll do part 2 tomorrow
>>7921240Not a troll, but also if I'm being honest I give myself 95% odds of giving up within a week.
Recently i've been going a bit schizophrenic and i started thinking that causality actually moves backwards through time which explains a lot
>>7921267>Not a trollthat is what exactly a troll would say anyway welcome back 7 years nodraw.
>>7921270Elaborate
>>7921270You know how when you're in a car and the car accelerates, it feels like you're being pushed backwards? Maybe time is like that. We feel that we are moving 'forward' in time, because in truth, we are accelerating 'backwards'. And memories are the extension of our senses forward through time, becoming hazier and less precise in the same manner that sight or hearing become less accurate over greater distances.
>>7921274your future final state in life locks your current actions and your current state created your childhood>>7921275makes sense and you also can't see what's behind you
>Uses a clearly /pro/ image for beg/int thread just because it was reposted from another thread
>>7920530Thanks, that makes sense>>7920549Thank you, ill try those thingsThe things you pointed out about digital vs trad actually did occur to me in a sense that i shouldn't rely too much on digital tools like perfect eraser and transformation tools. I'm trying to not use it and only do so in last ditch effort where im just completely overwhelmed.Thank you again you both
wanted to draw a portrait for a pale elf character in pillars of eternity bc I wanted to give it another trythe coloring is abhorrent and the eyes are fucked but at least the hair looks somewhat ok >>7921270I've been thinking that some events might ripple in time, causing some sort of emotional pressure backwards or sidewaysnot necessarily in violation of causation, but rather our perception of times passage may be more flawed than we thinklike when something bad happens, I can feel the dissociation before the bad things or at least my mind colors the memories that waywho knows desu
>>7921266Are you >>7918708? Quite clean if so, keep it up.
>>7921189Thanks anon. You definitely captured the overall shapes better than I didThing is you can't take back your pencil strokes or digital marks either. Erasing and undo spamming still take time and mental capacity. Would rather just lay down some bullshit with a pen and keep moving forward
>>7921282yes. I really like having that Undo button, it gives me confidence to commit to a stroke, and fix my mistakes when i get it wrong or my hand tremors cause an issue
>>7921193why don't you... get a tablet?
So I want to be able to pose a 3D figure, draw it in 2D and use that for my art. I assume most do that. There’s an option to put the 3D figure in the program, I use clip studio. Would it be bad if I traced over 3D models or can I still learn with that?
>>7921286fellow tremor friend you're doing great! (im >>7920852) you can always incorporate it into your work and be looser if you want to try traditional. i tend to do my lines loosely because of my tremors. hope to see more progress from you, cute stuff
>>7921292(also, love pomni x ragatha btw! hope you post more)
i guess you just have to power through with something even if you know it's all slop, right? just to try and get it done
>>7920925how long did this take you? i want to try some simplistic backgrounds for a piece too but it's been an hour and all i have is the main prop, a few figures, and rough "final" lines for one of them (i think i'm going to try and rely on color/shading to give it form)
>>7921219i am not himbut since none of you responded at all, okay.anime style it is then:also, i have another idea: i dont have to draw good or detailed if i draw it so small and with so few pixels, that details become unneccessary/impossible to add.tried to draw pepe the frog in anime form
thanks doc
>>7921214it's not bait. what is bait?
>>7921310Who says you HAVE to draw it anyways at all? You can draw it worse if you like. In fact you probably should if your goal is to keep effort low.
The most schizo beg thread so far
>>7921310>i am not himthat what 7 years failure fag would say.
>>7921324>if i have the last word i have wonno you dont. winning doesnt come from claiming more and more things you cannot proove, nor from insults or accusations. I dont have to refute each time that something isn't the case as whatever accusor portrayed it as
>>7921168 I hate drawing lips....thats not bad. but what do I know?
>>7921310The fewer pixel idea is great I tried your technique (pic rel) and I can't see any mistakes.Thanks annon!
>>7921280when i wake up sometimes my dreams have been centered around a sound ive just heard when i woke up, that always seem weird to me, like my dreams are seeing ahead
>>7921331Prove your not 7 yearfag.
Character design for my autistic worldbuilding project. I feel that I kind of failed with her face a bit, as it seems sort of flat. I'm not that used to coloring skin so I dunno what went wrong with it. She is supposed to be a woman in her late 30ies/early 40ies so I tried to make her look appropriately aged but I am not sure if I succeeded.
drew some more anime sketches. anime really is wasteful art style
>>7921356Pre-beg tier. What is your world building project though?
>>7921356i think it's more then good enoughwho cares about looks. you can have 1000s of "quality" art pieces and still have a shit world. i would distribute it the following (approximately): time spent on thinking, world building and doing intelligent stuff/planning art tasks= 99% of timetime spent on drawing: 1%based on your art, your imagination and world buildings seems extremely unrealistic and generic though. that's what i would change
>>7921340I think you could use some thinner lines inside of the contour. For the lips, less is more. Avoiding outlining them totally will go a long way. Looking good.
>>7921003Not sure if I want to keep working on this one, are the pose and face appealing? I think the face is off and the neck is too long but not sure.>>7921357>wastefulWdym?>>7921280The braids look nice and the eyes have some cool depth. I think the hair could benefit from some lighter lines kind of showing the strands from the whorl.
>>7921368i will think a few hours what i mean before i phrase itit's about the parts of the drawing not expressing real parts, but some fictional style, which leads to "neccessary" yet wasteful lines, effort, and "rules"
>>7921366yes, but I always think its not "thick" enough. somehow a lot of the things I draw look like stamps. thanks for the reply.
>>7921357>one of the most popular and optimized art styles that focuses on line minimalism >wastefulDamn nigger just give up on this shit, it's clear to everyone you're ngmi.
>>7921370Could you give some examples? I’m not sure I see what you mean looking at yotsuba.
>>7921375i wrote i will think about how to phrase it, but one time, here, a smaller part of my thoughts:anime replaces realism with style. things like "head" and other parts are not drawn correctly. BUT YOU INSTEAD HAVE TO DRAW THEM IN ANIME STYLE.this is wasteful. if you remove some correct thing, dont replace it with more hidden rules or work. replace it with the cheapest/easiest/a good option, not those "anime styles" that are wasteful, if you compare them to stickmen or other simpler styles. I mean, you dont show reality anyways by drawing stylyzed images, so better not show anything rather then this useless style that takes so much effort to upkeep
a new ESL ultrapermaprebeg low iq retard just dropped? sweet
>>7921378>ESLHow many languages do you speak, anon?
>>7921378one out one came
>>7920548This was really useful, thanks.I struggle to decide which value grouping I should put the lips into since they are usually somewhere between the two dark value groupings. I guess that most of the time they should be in the average shadow grouping so that they don't compete with the eyes in terms on contrast.
>>7921310This HAS to be satire.I refuse to believe that this is a real person posting in earnest.
silly bath drawing>>7921368that would probably be a good addition, ty
>>7921378here, made a quick comic inspired by your post
>>7921360It is a project based around a dystopian biotechnological megacity.More art for it can be found here.https://www.deviantart.com/screeble/gallery/62271545/mundus-carnis
>>7921388thank you for your hard works. Sooo entertaining!Cant believe these are for free again thank you
>>7921388Sorry, can’t help but notice many wasteful lines on your comic. Hair should be 3 lines max,many lines on the cheeks I can’t see any need for. Are you serious about minimalism or what?
in and out and in and out agaaaaain in and out and in and out agaaaaain in and out and in and out agaaaaain>>7921386cute
>>7921391looks like Morrowind
>>7921388I can't believe paige and hat kid queer were powercrept by this permaprebegGOD.
>>7921388Full time super true perma beg
>>7921393minimalism? i dont read books or use concept words
>>7921391I want to kill this ugly cat mutt mutant thing.
>>7921401Forever/pre-beg/
>>7921402It is called evolution.
>>7921401Sorry, I should have said wasteful. There is too much waste in this comic. Many wasteful lines. Every body part should use only one line. Everything else is too much waste, not to mention a lot of effort>>7921401
>>7921388holy shit there is no hope for you Infinity/beg/
Social media is so dumb, the moment I did some big titties I got more engagement than ever with 80% less effort from other things I have made before
>>7921409You appeal to their monkey brain build a cult following then charge for commions on your niche fetish
>>7921388sovlnvke>>7921409>people like big titshow dare they
>shizo power vacuum already filled
>>7921388it's nice to see some actual creativity in this thread.Or do you want another derivative anime woman with big tits, knuckle draggers.
>>7921398Morrowind's aesthetics are one of the sources of inspiration I've had.>>7921402Rude
>>7921391Is this like a game or comic, or more general and abstract? Either way kinda cool
>>7921426At the moment it is just something I do as a hobby/autistic obsession. Maybe some day I might do something more with it but I don't have much concrete plans for it besides just fleshing out the setting and worldbuilding for it's own sake. I've dabbled in some 3d modelling as well to depict stuff from the setting but that's about the closest I've actually come to any actual game making. The most feasible avenue for me to actually utilize the setting is propably in comic format but I am not that confident in my own storytelling skills which is why I have not really went there yet.
I gave up. I tried doing the sparkling dress but it turned out like a tea stain. I can't get the hair right either. How the fuck do people render??
>>7921443Simplify into value groupings and basic shapes first, then gradually refine them.
>>7920899you're not me you wank-stain
>>7921443You should figure out the face and hands first
I lost my four closest friends over some fucked up shit that happened over the last 10 months, that left me traumatized n feeling like I can't trust anyone else, or find someone that understands me as much as some of them did, ever again. It still hurts and I'll probably never get closure for most if not all of it, let alone get to reconnect with my closest friend who I'd known for 13 years.I dropped art n mostly anything else for over five years to git gud at software dev, and find a full time job to finance my life with. Kind of afraid to pick up pencil & paper and try again, cause when I last drew my mind would torment me whenever I did. But now, I don't know what else there is for me to do. I still liked to draw & paint, n had learned a fair bit in the years prior.Is it time for me to get back into art, now that I don't really have something or someone to live for? I don't wanna just sit and suffer without doing anything besides work and waste time when I'm not at work.
my favorite character.
>>7921461Maybe you shouldn't have raped that girl, bro.
>>7921461Unfortunate story but just draw dude - or don't.
>>7920926a Vancouverite actuallyHey man, I pop by /ic/ people repost my shit and get all gossipy, I gotta reply.
>>7921469>a Vancouverite actuallyAnything bad that happens to you is deserved
im such a shitty artist someone needs to put me out of my misery
>>7921179This looks pretty good at a glance but on a second look the bouncelight coming off of that dull rock is too bright/vibrant. I'd do a paintover but I don't have access to my tablet at the moment or photoshop... I'd say make the rocks brighter and the bounce light on the goose more dim and see how that looks.
>>7921397A thousand more Midna drawings please and thank you
>>7921472Absolute peak Midna ass
>>7921462Hey I remember you getting advice on drawing this character.Do you do any others?
>>7921470>gossipy and crabbyYou'll go far bud.
>>7921472The sketch was way hotter imo
>>7921479yes I do but Im not sure if I like the other chracters. a lot of muscular girls and stuff....
>>7921481>budFaggot in Vancouver pretending to use the word bud
Furries r so uncanny to draw
>>7921482I know, im fucking garbage
>>7921482>>7921495No, you know what fuck you the lineart is better im goated
>>7921497now you're talkin
Any advice on approaching values? I’ve basically only done linework until recently so I’m feeling good about my progress but I’d love some tips.
alright, here's one more drawing before i explain myself:
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DRAWWWI DONT KNOW WHAT TO DRAWWW
>>7921510There's a reason for that, look what these suckers draw here.
>>7921488iso crabby
>>7921375alright, here's the full explanation:i watched 1000s of anime. I read 1000s of mangas (at least their beginning). I even looked through alternative comics and such. What did i find? A lot of things i got upset- most importiantly, that the story/content WAS SHIT. EVERYTHING IS SHIT. ONE PIECE, ONE PUNCH MAN AND ALMOST ALL POPULAR THINGS, EVEN BERSERK AND WHATNOT ARE SHIT! I WOULD NEVER GIVE IT MY CHILDREN TO READ, IF I HAD ANY!Now, to go to the point i am about to make:I got into the whole thought process partially by trying drawing/mangamaking myself in the past. It got to the point where i realized: Most manga do not express just what the reader needs. They shit up everything with "fanservice", "style" and "garbage content", and not only that, the artstyle itself is also difficult. I do not draw like the manga artists do, and i thought a lot about what conclusion to make with all of this and more.I came to the conclusion that, just like the trend started, of "liking bad quality because it often means a reduction in other garbage as well (eg: "i want devs to be paid more to do less"; "there are more examples",) that it would be beneficial to only focus on some story, since, with my idea of a very simple/easy to draw/almost ruleless/unrestricted art-way of creating pages, they can be done very fast!And this, further fueled by arguments adjacent to the afformentioned trend of praising "bad quality", leads to the theory, that, the importiant content CAN be drawn easily and very quickly. The rest is not importiant. And whatever the rest does- i, while thinking about this for years, still read a lot of manga and so on, see how lacking the content of art is, and how meaningless and distracting from THE ACTUAL STORY I AM SEARCHING FOR it is (literally BLOAT)- it is not worth having advanced art to just make it look better. I dont want looks. looks are advertising- they mean nothing! And less details can COMPENSATED by being over 3 times as fast!!!
>>7921510draw this
Do you like it?
>>7921520that fluoride stare
Might take another pass at this later, either overdrawing it or restarting. Tried to salvage it after initially drawing the legs too small and having to fix the face a lot
>>7921523isn't the stomach to short?
>>79215177 years fag failed to bait people.
>>7921527its not baittake your meds
>>7921517This is incoherent and useless. Draw more instead
>>7921524There's a fair bit out of whack in all honesty, I'm not sure that the abdomen is too short per se but that the rib cage is too wide and the tits are too big lol
>>7921534what ai model did you use?
>>7921536That's a genuine human whore, anon
>>7921534Where do you get these refrences?
Hello, I am looking to create a set of exercises, drawings, paintings, etc. that can help me evaluate my skill level and identify areas for improvement. For example, I am considering 10 gesture drawings, 5 landscapes, 5 painted heads, 2 character turnaround sheets, expression studies, linework exercises, and others. Should these be done as warm-ups or should I treat them as separate studies? I want to create a list of challenges that will give me a clearer picture of where I stand since I have been drawing for a while for fun but now I want to assess my skills. I also want to figure out which areas I should focus on to improve. Right now, I am thinking of creating a list of exercises for each core aspect of art and defining fundamentals to track my progress. My current idea of it:Gesture30s gestures x102m gestures x55m gestures x5Perspective & Formobject studies (boxes/cylinders) x2simple environments x2object turnarounds x2Anatomy & Proportionfull‑body figures x3hands x3feet x2Faces & Expressionportrait studies x3expression sheets x3Color & Paintinggrayscale still lifes x2color still lifes x2painted heads x2Environments & Compositionlandscapes x2interiors x2Character Designturnaround sheet x1expression sheet x1pose sheet (5–8 poses) x1Lineworkstraight lines page x1ellipses page x1boxes page x1clean lineart (object) x1clean lineart (character) x1The numbers are probably all wrong really for finding skill level but whatever it's a first draft. Also if this sort of thing already exists please lead me to it, and then I'll do it and come back here to post. Furthermore, try keep this medium agnostic, I use digital only as of now, so I can't do physical sculpting, for example.
>>7921542Just draw.
>>7921541>>>/wg/
>>7921542Drawing isn't the gym you retard
>>7921542This schizo single handedly managed to get the thread to the bump limit in less than 24 hours impressive
>>7921553It literally is
>>7921546>>7921554I have no idea who you think I am but this is my first post in this thread so it's probably not who you think it is.>>7921553I want to treat it like the gym though and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
>>7921557>>7921556Have fun being permabeg
>>7921559I don't think I'm beg to begin with but I'll post my work in a comprehensive test for you to see.
>>7921517If you care so much about the story and so little about the art then why bother with the art at all? Why not just write a story?
>>79215427 year fully perma beg trying sooo hard.
>>7921542It's almost impressive how you guys will do anything to avoid actually drawing.
>>7921532one more time, more details:what matters is to see the importiant person. To be able to recognize who is who, who is doing what, who is in what state, and some other details (trees, background, whatever the author wants). This can be done crudely as well. My other image before, with the mangas, also showed what i mean.oh. finally, an answer, even though small. Because i dont want to create books. I know my stories are vanity, and a book can be great. But a book is harder. Harder then just putting content together with images. Thats what i thought. So, DUE TO MY IDEAS BEING SO USELESS, i try to create it with art. And also to practice my art skills, and to have something ARTFUL to imagine, not just pure imagination from words.>>7921562more drawings in a few hours
>>7921542
>>7921572>oh. finally, an answer, even though small. Because i dont want to create books. I know my stories are vanity, and a book can be great. But a book is harder. Harder then just putting content together with images. Thats what i thought. So, DUE TO MY IDEAS BEING SO USELESS, i try to create it with art. And also to practice my art skills, and to have something ARTFUL to imagine, not just pure imagination from words.how are you not 7 years faggot?
>>7921298It took at least 4x4 hour slots over 4 days.It took around 4 hours to rough out a sketch, including time to look for references. I also decided to change the process while I was in the middle of this piece so there was a bit of experimentation as well.I used sketch, ink/line, then color, but it was just not working for me. It took way too long but most critical issue is that sometimes the inked sketch just looked like dogshit and nothing as good as the sketch. Then when I start to color I'd ran into the same issue when colored work looks like dogshit when compared to the ink.So I saw how "lalalack" does it and he just draws a sketch, applies a base color and then colors the final run on top of the lines, and if he needs lines to show then he draws the line on top of the color and I decided this was how it should work and it is much better, it means color and ink happens at the same time and if any distortion happens it's easy to fix it together.
>>7921577yap yap yap we all know you're the 7 years poopy head.
>>7921577thank you for the detailed response, i'll look into lalalack too
>>7921520Yes, I do. Would like to see some more reflections, at least in the eyes. Maybe even a dress? Very nice form modelling and lighting! Keep it up!
>>7921520Could be improved if you drew Ganondorf mating pressing her.
>>7921576i guess you cannot comprehend other autists joining in on the fun
>>7921583>with the basedbooru images I stole I can defeat his accusation.lol
>>7921579https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/series/113FYI, if you look at his streams it's even more compressed.
>>7921583failtroll alert!!
>>7921583We were expecting you yesterday, you never came.. Was this it? Lame.
>>7920815>>7919568>>7919571>>7919599I did it again from memory (2 previous attempts were interrupted halfway, and deleted). I can't do better than this. I keep getting that arm wrong in the same way.Also. Today I studied a bit the arm muscles, and tried to apply later on a reference.I should've studied the arm bones too, but I went on memory with them.I recognize I keep placing the deltoid too much above the humerus, now.>>7920831You should already see that the arm on the left is broken (or has 2 elbows), while the one on the right is very slim.Anyway, you are clearly just starting... I don't know what could you help you the most at this stage, maybe the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"? Although, ignore every "scientific" thing of the book as it is unproven pseudo-science. The excercises are good though.>>7920921The frontal one has its charm.You should fix a bit the hairline on the side drawing. For instance, see the one on top left. You would expect the sideburn being in front of the ear, and then adjust the rest of the hair accordingly.(search for "sideburns" and observe)>>7921391Cool mood. I like it.
>>7921584meds i created this image myself>>7921590not a failtroll. i know what the definition of a failtroll is, and i am someone who tries to be a useful, beneficial and non-harmful memeber of- this general.
>>7921565>>7921566I draw regularly I just want to sort of record how i'm doing in EVERY field right now. Could be good for looking back and comparing my self in the past. Like I don't have years old drawings of certain subjects because I never drew those sorts of subjects, so I have nothing to compare to if I want to know that I would've improved on that with my other practice.
>>7921592???what exactly about
>>7921596true autistic never skip a day.
>>7921594you are here forever.
>>7921599i am just pretending...also i only joined (pre-)yesterday, what are you about?lets go back to images. I will draw something, any more questions?
>>7921602>more questions?what is your geographical location?
>>7921603south asia
>>7921604I found you.
>>7921561Just pyw nigga
Look behind you.
>>7921606Ok, nigga, I'm not at home now though so I'll do it as soon as I can.
>>7921607this random anonymous massage scares me :(
>>7921608If its int im gonna kneel irl so I'll hold you to your word
>>7921607What are you talking about? I don't see anyt
what is (You)r daily routine look like?
>>7921626i dont dravv
>>7920815working on fuel line network on deck 4.
Any tips for drawing with a small tablet? My fingers keep accidentally pressing the buttons on the pen
>>7921651option 1 get used to it option 2 buy a new tablet
>>7921651option 3 chop off your fingers and replace them with smaller ones
>>7921651I've had so much trouble deliberately using the buttons on the pen and this anon does it accidentally?
>>7920973cute
>Bruhhh you hament improved for a whole year ongahhh blub lil bro
i have question shiitttt i forgot question bruhh iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii what the fuck was the question hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm uhhhh how to draw nahh hthat is now what iwanted to ask what is itttttt uhhhhhwhat WAS ITT fuck it was really important and i just watched some yt shorts and forgot it.
>>7921677Bruhhh ong, i fr fr i need to put the mmnnnigga blippity blip blappin fries in da muffuggin bag son twin, finna gagged tea ate NAHHH YOU REALLY FINNA BE BOOTYCHEEKSING BLIPP BLAPPIN :Skull: :Skull: :Wiltedrose:
silly faces>>7921671I haven't improved much in year either, dw
Ok I remember nowI can't draw humans without proportion get fucked up. head get big belly get short type shits happens every time. how do I fix that? do gesture drawing or something?
>>7921683I found a drawing of mine from almost 2 years ago and I feel the same lol. dw Paige youve gotten better
>>7921671Holy shit this legit looks like the permabegschizo face
Bruhhh dis moffuggin can't draw any gah damn cylinders don follow any fuggin
new meltie happening live
>>7920619giga update, taking a lil 2 hour break because my hand is tired as fugi think this sort of artstyle is cool, kinda figurin out my artstyle :-Di do wonder how it'll look once colored
>>7921682where's the gudam drawing at you momfacker
>>7921713Dis shieee rite hear nigga on gaahh
>>7921720Nice, keep going.
doodle before bed since I didn't draw earlier
more outlaw star>>7921523oversized and stretched the torso, also seems you are a bit lost on where to place ribcage and abdomen lines and how these parts overlap. head is good though>>7921520needs eyes rendered more at the very least
more doodles >>7921731>>7921739looks great desu
So much changed in a few months, now I hardly have any free time to draw.In the end I couldn't dedicate myself completely to art, or maybe I return to where I had been back then, and try again.
>>7921742kill yourself, pedophile I don't care what excuses or rationalizations you want to regurgitatejust kill yourself put a gun to your head and blow your brains outjust do it
>>7921742I look forward to your woe is me suicidebait posts every time bro.
>>7921742Live long enough to finish your pedophile drawings
>>7921742Dont listen to haters draw more
>>7921746Am not even complaining about anything, really, I'm just surprised that I turned out like those guys that said "I don't have time to draw because wageslaving takes up 900 hours a week" I'd never believe it until experiencing firsthand.
>>7921741thank you! i like the top sketch quite a bit>>7921742well holy shit you improved anyway
Is it bad that I want to draw solely for the sake of whatever hyperfixations I have and not wanting to have to keep commissioning my own art?
>>7921765no motivation is a bad motivation unless you are a nonce in which case eat a bullet
>>7921765Most people start drawing for that reason.
>>7921765Yes it's bad. You should never do anything for yourself since every second of your life should be put towards the betterment of your employer's wallet.
>>7921745pedophiles won, pedophiles rule the world, you lost, you should be the one to put the gun to your head and pull the trigger, if anything
>>7921765It's the most based reason.
>>7921739Thanks! Torsos do seem like they're a sticking point at the moment
I think I'm going to read Loomis. Should I post whatever it tells me to do as I read the books in order to keep myself accountable?
>>7921593Thanks for the criticism I c what you mean by the hairline, the front one is the best but I don’t like how the features on my side profiles look rather crunched together Also nice from memory work
Any tips? This bitch made me quit acrylics I'm back to oils cause I can't blend shit this fucking dress
>>7921837looks good to me, but I don't have the eyes to see
>>7921706Loving it.
I'm surprised at my improvement... this program is basic and doesn't have stabilization, you can see how bad my had tremors actually are here.
>>7921852definitely look into downloading Photoshop for its smoothing feature or try to use swift short or long swipes, it might help.Also, forgive* you forgot the R, anon.
>>7921852>>7921855oh shit i can't spellredid the ear... i have clip studio, but this was a community whiteboard project on /co/
>>7921852nice Jax tremorfren
>>7921003A bit closer to what I'm going for but the hand and arm with the ice cream are still bad. The other arm looks a bit unnatural behind like that so I might change it back too. Crit appreciated :>>>7921837Some warmer tones in the skin might help but it depends on the lighting I guess.>>7921706khorne berserker? super cool, i painted some of those once
>>7921863>>khorne berserker? super cool, i painted some of those oncegiga basedi got one unpainted but its a 3D print one and i never got to paint it since i got into this new hobby kek
>>7921706jelly that you found an artstyle you likegreat job anon
>>7921837try painting something easier like fruit until you can paint without make it so muddyalso too many small shapes, focus on getting the bigger shapes down first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFFFHzA-eS0This show feels underrated, esp. since Astro has so many SPUMCO esque expressions
>>7921893
>>7921894Jane is best girl in the entire Hanna Barbera pantheon.
>>7921895When we first met Niles Nuclear, he was heldup by George and Jane on accident. Henry Orbit, the building's superintendent was tied up in the garage.
slightly botched
>>7921837I like it too but the lions look like toy pigs
rough sketch done
I'm having trouble understanding Vilppu's approach to rendering during quicksketch. He says that he's pretending to go across the surface of the form as he draws it, but I can't seem to recognize why he makes marks where he does. They indicate that the form is turning, but are his marks the corners of the form (where you'd put a construction line if you use box forms) or are they the the surface of a plane?
Here's an example by Vilppu.
>>7921893>Somebody git this cretin off my back!!Man, You're a fucking miracle!!! LMAO You made me laugh! A-M-A-Z-I-N-GHave a cute Jane for you.>>7921731All of your drawings are beautiful!>>7921083Fucking excellent!>>7920975COOOOOOOL!>>7920944BEST IN THREAD! Where can I get more of this?
Should I grind basic shapes?
>>7921193all the 3rd party software that let mouse users emulate tab pressure are all deprecated now that you can literally buy a drawing tablet for like 20 bucks.
I can't draw humans without proportion get fucked up. head get big belly get short type shits happens every time. how do I fix that? do gesture drawing or something?
Uploaded this for another anon in another thread, but posting it here in case other /beg/anons need it to randomize local references for different studieshttps://github.com/flash-computer/CRFIt can choose a random folder to go into further or an image to display at any level, and you can even grayscale or discretize images with it. Also works with PDFs, where it chooses a random page to display (a little finicky because technically it dumps the first available image with pdfimages, rather than rendering the whole page so some pdfs may be broken)
>>7921989incorporate it
>>7918368Been busy with other shit, but finally done, I think.
>>7921523>>7921534the multiple light sources made figuring this ref out a bit harder than initially anticipated. i think i made her lean back on her arm instead of having her push herself up with the arm.e.: wrong file
day 1 of learning to draw
Painting portraits with hard round feels really annoying, it's like the features never look right.
>>7921266>>7921282page 2 of 2
>>7922045The face and hand expressions sell these pretty well, clear direction here. Just work on your fundies as you go and I think you'll be flying.
