If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-l>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: 7926352
shitPrevious Thread>>7926352
Working on a project with a friend
>>7928613Didn't ask
>>7928613Blogposted again award.
had a cheese&ham sandwich for breakfast today
>>7928605Ofc not
>>7928594that is /adv/ you fucking
Today's grind
>>7928634shotas beware
Nodraw shitposting apes need to be rounded up, tortured and executed What fucking horrendous quality the previous thread was
>>7928641>t. blog poster
I'm having neck pain while drawing, because I look down at the paper to draw, what I should do? Buy an table easel?Or do you guys know other methods?
I'm a yesdraw and a noblog.
>>7928647Use a stand or something to adjust the angle you draw, until you found it comfortable to draw without making your neck ache
Could someone redline this? I feel like the left leg is off (and I don't know where to place the left hand).
>>7928651I was planning on buying a table easel, but the problem isthat i can't rotate the page while drawing, and I don't want to spend too much money on it
Repost from last thread
Blogschizo was right wtf do you mean repost you fag
>>7928632noticing a pattern where some of the best artists in this thread get called beg because they post fagshit
>>7928658idk how redlining is going to help you. Your copying skill is shitty. Work on it a little bit every day.https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q?view=#Absolute-beginnersscroll down in here, and you can find Dorian Iten Accuracy Exercise thing, watch the longer version one.
I know I'll fuck this up but I'm doing it anyway
>>7928624Nice
Repost from last thread (not mine I just thought it was funny lol)
>>7928688Nice desu
>>7928687That's because I'm not mindlessly copying the reference dumbass. I'm trying to break out of that mindset. For the gun to be properly placed, the entire pose needed to be shifted around, and I'm not good enough yet to portray that, thats why I'm asking for help.
>>7928698I apologize.
>>7928691Hnnng!!!! Best in the thread!!
>>7928702I forgive you.
>>7928684Then give me a new challenge
some drawing donetime for bideo gaems
I gave up drawing. I’m sorry I’m so shit. I could never improve so it wasn’t worth trying anymore.
>>7928703A new challenger approaches! >>7928724
>gangle is a nodraw
>>7928732Still mogs me I'll be honest
>>7928650pyw>>7928641:)
Request. a bit outside my comfort zone so very formless etc>>7928742Gorgeous
>>7928429thanks to everyone who helped out! I think things have improved a lot now. it doesn't look entirely like the real goose but it's definitely better than where it startedI do feel like the colors are a bit smudgy though, let me know if any of you got any more inputs
>>7928746the quality was shit on that pic so repost
THREAD CHALLENGE: Theme: Clothing - Subject: Leather jacket and folds.
>>7928742I'm not seeking critique, so no :)
>>7928753This could easily be a full cast promo spread for some anime or something if you tightened up the composition/interactions a little and inked it. I like the wavy lines.
>>7928658Tried to fix it up, but I've approached my limit. I demanded too much out of the reference. No point polishing a turd.
>>7928764thanks (: if I had seen this comment before, I would have left it for when I'm more patient to render. I'm sorry that the shading is so loose lol
>>7928742Sexy lines
>>7928765Is that raiden
>>7928711Right on my nigga, draw this
>>7928783lmaooo bitch had to use one of those closure extenders
>>7928784that's a normal clasp, virgin-kun
>>7928781yeah
cruise from legendnice zelda filmreally wish i was better at anatomy and proportion...
>>7928758I give up. I'm sorry for being a lazy blogposter
>>7917163try again
>>7928801I may be blind but at least I'm not fat
>>7928698>That's because I'm not mindlessly copying the reference dumbass. I'm trying to break out of that mindset.It is pretty clear that you don't understand what you're looking at.How do you expect to be able to modify the reference if you don't understand it?
taking and going and through, and feel the flow, and now, going and over and feel the form, and taking and going and down
Not getting much out of copying hands after the first 50. Just feel like I'm copying lines; at that point, I might as well just do more anime faces.I'm going to try to draw the bones of the hand instead. Maybe after getting comfortable copying hands, the best thing to do is to draw the actual anatomy underneath to not stagnate. Since the bones don't squash or stretch, learning how to draw them shouldn't be as difficult. Also, there are significantly more landmarks on bones than there are on skin, at least on female skin. This helps to keep the proportions accurate when drawing, which is something I struggle with a lot.The point of all of that is to be able to draw the whole human body from reference. I'm not entirely interested in drawing completely from imagination. When I try to draw a human body from reference, it's daunting. I don't know where to begin and the whole drawing ends up looking like crap. So my goal is to draw each individual part to get comfortable with the parts. That way, when I tackle the whole, it'll be a lot less intimidating. I'll be building on top of the previous anatomy. So I won't move from hands to then the arm in isolation without the hand. Everything prior will be included. This means I draw the hand AND the next thing I move up to.For now though, I'm going to stick to hands for a while, drawing the bones until I feel like I understand it. Maybe get to 100 iterations like I originally planned. Moving forward though, I'll add bones to a structure. So it'll probably look something like:>25 hands from life>25 hands from anime>25 hand bones>25 hand musclesThat's probably not exactly what I'll use but it's a template for what I'll likely do.I've also been drawing anime faces recently. It feels a little easier to draw them now for some reason. It's not like I did anything different. I just drew a bunch of hands.
>>7928870some anime faces i drew recently
>>7928871>Kanamori
>>7928870Are you the 7 years schizo? If so I'm happy you realized there's no magic method and it's just grinding and grinding and grinding some more. You can definitely make it if you keep to being this dedicated to drawing as you are right now. Cute anime faces by the way
Yesterday’s studies and then I drew a bit for fun>>7928767I am obsessed with your style man, reminds me of Yoshitaka Amano
>>7928848Very amazing mentality "you can't do it yet so don't try">>7928842This lowkey looks like my art on a bad day which is scary because i wouldn't be sure how i could improve it if if came out like this
>>7928871>>7928870>blog posting
And rememberDon't try anything newWhy do you even bother?Just draw boxes, spheres and cylinders. This will get you somewhere i thinkWhy do you even do this? It's too hardWhat's the end goal?You can't do it.There are too many good artists out there already and the bar has been raised way too high because of the AI for anyone to get into artThis is pointless, go play video gamesWatch some movies
Why are the permabegs so uppity today?
Genuinely curious what set the blogposting schizo off this badly
>>7928910I don't know, he just keeps making his blogs longer and longer like this >>7928870
>>7928904Replied to the wrong drawing, meant this>>7928804
George Harris' boy in Uncle Tom's Cabin.Watch him break it down here:https://youtu.be/Ch4fGc084iM?si=zXppvyBmUWlkA9Sl&t=1244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INEqp4bRDy0
two value study
>>7928890I'm gonna be honest man obsessed with your shit right back. the right page is fucking amazing. keep doing the great work, that hatching is brilliant
>>7928922https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-it6-HAD5WY
>>7928926I fucking hate this website, there's not a single board where I can scape kikes and their kike demon god baal. fuck you.
>>7928947lolkay schizo.
>>7928947okay then draw jesus decapitating it or something dude. Idk, didn't god give man the power to create? The power of agency? How about you exert those gift a little and stop being such a self victimizing little bitch
>>7928954Also Jean Cocteau
>>7928953Nice golem
cleaned this up a little more.
Wow not even a single person ask for advice or critique they post their artwork and told us to stare at it.
>>7928967>I wait for permission to reply onlinepermission granted.
>>7928967a person asked for a redline which is a form of both critique and advice and was told they were trash and then offered a link to something. So, there's that at least.
>>7928971And you all flodded it with slops
>>7928967This is a feedback threadIt's implied posters are looking for feedback Threads lately have been shit, I'm very close to moving to a different thread
Now I believe the reason this thread exist is to keep those sloppers away from other threads. A place needed to hold them together.
>>7928967I once thought this was a place to post your work, know I know better. What a fool I was.
>>7928967why do i have to askjust do it bitch
>>7928967>>7928977>>7928979I hope your bfs beat the tampons right out of you
There should be a general where you just post your work. No requirement to ask for feedback. That way everyone is happy. But this isn't the thread.
>>7928997Misogyny is not allowed here.
It's so incredibly over.
Loomis
>>7928999/ic/ - Artwork/Critique All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork. User-created artwork is submitted for critique, and visual art is discussed. Do not claim authorship of works you did not create. Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban. Requests for free work of any sort are forbidden. Don't bring community vendettas onto this board. Singling out individual artists for the purposes of trolling them will not be tolerated. All discussion of artists should pertain directly to their work, and not their personal lives.
>>7929003Damn. It's almost like this board forgot its original purpose. How did it lose its way?
>>7929007Is the board moderated? I occasionally check up on here and usually just end up seeing shitflinging.
>>7929007take me back to the real art...
>>7929003>All images and discussion should pertain to the critique of visual artwork.Violated>User-created artwork is submitted for critique, and visual art is discussed. Forgotten>Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.Violated>Requests for free work of any sort are forbidden.Violated>Don't bring community vendettas onto this board. Singling out individual artists for the purposes of trolling them will not be tolerated. All discussion of artists should pertain directly to their work, and not their personal lives.ViolatedAmazing. Every single one of those was broken
>>7928937Thanks dude keep it up, I love seeing your art in these threads, it’s a nice break from the animepornslop. I can tell you give a shit. Don’t stop drawing
>>7929014>My supple and young butthole on a sleepover at my unclesViolated
>>7929014Trueee everything is violated.Jannies and mods are brain dead.I am not sure reporting any posts do anything at all. I reported so many rude comments no action taken =(
>>7929014kys pedro
Idk dude we need another thread like,Everyone post their work in there but no one ask for critiques or advices just hanging in there giving others (You) and stuff
>>7929029/i/ - Oekaki
Any tips for better lighting? Also looking for a way to give the skin a little more texture. Should I have used the airbrush less? Where could I have used a regular brush instead?
>>7929032Yeah you're using air brush too much. It makes your drawing looks ameturish.
I'm an absolute complete beginner who's never tried to draw anything more complex than a stickman their whole lives. I've always wanted to draw art and now I'm finally venturing out and posting my awful cringe child scrawls on hereThis is a drawing Day5 into my journey. I'm trying the method where I just simply redraw images I like, using them as reference.Are there any tips or exercises I should do to help with head and upper-body anatomy? I will try and tackle hands and fingers at a later date. I don't want to strive to be some complex artist with mastery over the foreshortening perspectives. I simply desire to get to a level where I'd be happy with drawing cute girls I see in media.
>>7929034Right, I agree, but how would I go about dropping it? Do you know of any good tutorials that go over the sort of things that would be applicable here?
>>7929030I forgot about this now I can banish blog posters.
>>7929036People don't draw here. They only blogpost, and talking shit about artists better than them on Twitter. Oh, and seething and giving worthless crab opinion people who do good redlines.
>>7929036https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
>>7929016thanks! glad I didn't disappoint you by posting anime requests then. people have been asking to see more anime stuff from me lately but I'm glad my style is coming across enough that it's not jarring! personally i like anime but it's not what I'm interested in drawing, and seeing non anime/explicitly cartoon stuff is always delightful
>>7929044If only people were reasonable and nicer to eachother on the internet, but this is a niche board on 4chan after all. I'd have a feeling more hatred is concentrated here>>7929046Thank you, I'll refer to this as I progress. I think I'm gonna give myself a full month of reference drawing random things I like and see online, before trying to step into reference drawing but utilizing my own poses and facial expressions.I am pretty good at rotating the box in my head, i can see AND spin the apple so I just have to learn how to draw head shapes with it now.
>>7929032She have weins?
>>7929053She's supposed to be a corpse it seems..
>>7929032Use air brush to show the roundness of form only. You used it for everything. Not everything have a round edges.
>>7929058Body is fine it just the hands and arms bothering me.
>have an idea for a drawing>spend months trying to get it just right>someone else makes something extremely similar for the same community and now if I post mine everyone will think I'm just copying themI hate everything
What happened to this board?
>>7929083AI mindbroke everyone.
had a very busy dayburnt my brain out doing other stufftried doing challenging perspective and just butchered it
its crazy how beg is the worst it's ever been and I'm the happiest I've been with my arts since I came here
>>7929091Fuck off to /i/
>>7929052>a full month of reference drawing random things I likeunironically the best plan probably. try to get good at observing
Can anyone help me identify what kind of pen this is?
>>7929104Don'tFocus on a few things, try to limit itYou will memorize things way quicker as you're actively applying the stuff you're learning. I'm talking about separating things like drawing heads, figure drawing, perspectiveStuff like that
also I redrew some anon on another board's oc and think it turned out ok save for the hands>>7929103>>>/n/>>>/o/>>>/t/>>>/h/>>>/a/>>>/n/>>>/k/>>>/s/>>>/n/>>>/i/>>>/g/>>>/g/>>>/e/>>>/r/
>>7929109It's basically a question of intuitive, experimental learning vs. hittin da books. Personally I wish I spent more time /justdraw/ing before getting super serious about studying fundamentals. But I'm retarded so
what do people sketch out in public besides observation drawing, I don't want to draw naked people outside...
>>7929126Hey, the most important factor here is actually doing what gets you into doing the drawing part itselfIf your approach makes you actually draw and draw more then id say go for it, but if after some time you feel like you're not really making progress then try to balance between drawing random things for fun and studying
>>7928881Thank you!It was unironically a Reddit post that finally convinced me that drawing is repetition rather than some missing esoteric knowledge.This SEEMS illogical until one actually "just draws" themselves. You end up realizing that drawing is just a matter of stacking various microskills into your subconscious by drawing a lot. It's like driving a car. At first you have to consciously think about hitting the brake pedal and the accelerator but after a while you don't even think about it. Your brain doesn't even register "brake pedal" or "accelerator" anymore, it just reacts.Drawing is the same way."Just draw" is valid but it doesn't make sense until you actually do it. You can't logically show that it works because it's not logical. It's like trying to explain how to get better at free throws in basketball by explaining the aerodynamics or physics of a basketball.Which is also how I looked at drawing. I saw each drawing a free throw. Some shots go in. Some miss. But the important part isn't to hyperfocus on a SINGLE free throw. It's just one of a hundred free throws. And just like free throws, you're not going to sit there and try to perfect your form or whatever before throwing the ball (though you also don't just throw the ball haphazardly). You make an attempt, analyze for a few seconds why you missed, then take another shot. Rinse and repeat.Drawing is the same way.Final point: the biggest reason why I think I improved (other than drawing consistently) was getting off of /ic/. I don't mean never visiting /ic/ but rather visiting it very infrequently. I didn't see much improvement until I reduced my time on /ic/ from every single day to once or twice a week. Every time I spend more than 5-10 minutes on /ic/, I could literally feel myself losing progress. It's hard to describe. Like some sort of spiritual succubus or whatever but instead of your semen it steals your drawing gains. Sounds crazy but I think it's real. This place is a trap.
>>7929134Nta but im happy for you man. Keep just drawing until you make it
>>7929135了解しました!
>>7929106Hi Ego, big fan
>>7929134https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lRead the anon advices in this you might like it.
One year of drawing feels like progress is incredibly slow
two hours
>>7929167Cute panties
>>7929167
>>7929032
>>7929188wonky upper back
GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS.
>>7929191Give up and shut up then. Otherwise post your drawings. Stop spamming this bullshit.
