If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. OR blog post.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/2Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T1wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/8k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDsHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-l>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickpose.comcharactersdesign.comloveandlifedrawing.composesmy.artlines-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthPrevious thread: >>7940415
Shit threadShit generalShit boardShit website
what do i do if i literally cannot draw lineart on a tablet? my hand is too shaky to do straight lines but with stabilizers it slows me down. does anyone have any good video tutorials/advice on what should be the most basic thing? my lines are fine traditionally.
>>7942675Who do you hate the most here?
>>7942679Myself
>>7942679Foids
>>7942679Peril, Paige, wokung, same face loli guy, anyone who draw gay shit
>>7942678Oh shit he's back
>>7942678Just kill...your...selfThread shitter
I guess I'll post a thread challenge
>>7942675My shit is shit.
>>7942686>>7942688i dont know who youre talking about, this is my first time using the beginner thread but if youre going to assume im some schizo then ill just go somewhere else
Doing art the clown next
>>7942698Work on forms and line confidence. Seems like you’re running before you can walk.
Can anyone give me some pointers on the composition here? Feel free to edit if you want. Only thing we can't change is the drawing itself. (so we can't change the pose...) Not my drawing, but it's an attempt to rearrange some things.
>>7942704I'm retarded; feel free to make changes on the colors and add some things too.
tried to make something out of that photobash i posted a few days ago, and to emphasize lighting and pose. thoughts?>>7942704i think it's quite well arranged!>>7942678draw traditional, and there's no shame in drawing the same line again and again. (also turn down the delay lol)
Do you think it's a worse hell to be permabeg, or permaint?
boxes everywhere
violentflower
>>7942668
>>7942690Great challenge, I’ll do it tomorrow
>>7942712blog?
>>7942681Have they been actively shitting up the thread or something idk ive been spotty in coming here
>>7942668how do you typically begin a sketch to figure out the anatomy and pose and such?
>>7942682Who is the same face loli guy?
>>7942745Cyclop or whatever
tried to do less obnoxious line weight changes, linearting buttholes is weirdly difficult for some reason>>7942742i worry about "things being where i want them to be first", proportions last
>>7942747She's not a loli though
>>7942755This is an American loomis board. If a female isn't visibly 80 years old, she is loli.
In the first five seconds put somethingdown that indicatesevery part of thebody in the pose.
>>7942765chickenscratching
>>7942760>>7942682>>7942681PYW or shut your holes
Who is your FAVORITE /beg/ poster? For me its the guy who draws girls with cute ornery looking faces >>7942166
>>7942668That nigga did 10 dogshit anime faces and decided to use AI lol
>>7942690cool challenge
>>7942711Permabeg.Permaint would impress most normies, if you were sufficiently fast to do it
it's crazy that mods cover for the schizo and instead of banning OP for the bad thread start, they delete the outrage over it.>>7942739do you know that mods delete posts that don't praise you?
>>7942771Used to be a guy who posted mountains of trad sketches every day while high as a kite, now it's purple anon
>>7942742Deadass? Stick figure.https://files.catbox.moe/xd8x9c.mp4Here's speeddraw
>>7942690wow... not drawing that
>>7942782samefag Jesus Shit the arms look fucked orz
mecha sketch
>>7942682
How the fuck do I shade? I genuinely have no idea.
>>7942808You seem to have a decent idea
>>7942808The thing you need to learn is called "edges".There are, generally, 3 main types of edges.>Sharp edge>Soft edge>Some Shit Between edge>Sharp edgeThink of the sides of a cube. Each time you change from one face to another, that part is going to be likely "cell shaded". Makes it look pointy, no?>Soft edgeThink of the surface of a sphere. It's all going to be round in how you shade it, blended basically. Maybe airbrushed.>Some Shit Between edgeAdjust accordingly. Sometimes you'll have a rounded edge between two flat planes, or someone poking into a breast. Some surfaces have several.There are also cast shadows. Those are sharper the closer you are to the thing that's blocking the light source.I am 13% Full of Shit though, so I may not be able to practice what I preach. I could ruin your lineart if you want in an attempt to try and illustrate what I mean? The fastest way to do so is to fill your canvas with the shade color and use the eraser tool to chip away where the light hits your subject.
>>7942815> I could ruin your lineart if you want in an attempt to try and illustrate what I meanBy all means, go ahead.> The fastest way to do so is to fill your canvas with the shade color and use the eraser tool to chip away where the light hits your subjectI'll give this a try on my end in the meanwhile. I'll report back soon.
>>7942668shading is so fucking hard, i think i need to do everything on greyscales before i dare start coloring.
>>7942808i also have no fucking idea
drawing faces is so fucked, the smallest change completely changes the expression or the character or both, fuck>>7942785think of the place the arm bends first before drawing muscle, at least most muscles stay relative to the bend.. also try to bend your arm yourself first to see if it can even bend in that pose>>7942716bad torso>>7942778"bad thread start" is subjective, your flaming isnt>>7942679myself
>put in effort + care about result / OP>no one cares>put no effort + don't care about result / OP>gets OP imageJust like everything in life, huh?It's fucking amazing how once you stop caring (especially when you want the opposite result), that's when you get what you were previously vying for.In fact, it feels like everything in life is attainable by literally killing all desire for what you really want.Thus, you end up living a life where you are perpetually disappointed about getting exactly what you don't want.Now I just have to stop caring about women and sex...>>7942675Glad you came to the realization.>>7942408I did say IF I pursue art again.I might just stick with writing which is what I'm doing now.If that doesn't work out, I'll try high-effort AI art (if that's even possible).https://x.com/thr37venhttps://www.instagram.com/thr37ven/
>>7942830 prime example of turd polishing, maybe the thurd polishing anon was onto something.
Copy
>>7942834Forgot image
>>7942816Yeah I shat all over it. Sorry bro
>>7942842
>>7942798love your lineart. delicate, precise
Hi all, wanted to check if anything needed to be corrected anatomically before continuing. Would appreciate any feedback, thank you.
>>7942837No no, you have a point. Maybe not with the face but with the rest of the body and and the dress. Thank you.
>>7942854arms look too long legs look too short
>>7942868>elbows too pointyGet help.
>>7942854No major anatomy problems that I can see. The only two major things I did were give her a smaller waist, which is up to preference, and raise her hip to her right (our left) since that's the leg that's bearing pretty much all of the weight.
>>7942780does he post here?
>>7942869her fingers would be to her knees, looks off.
>>7942780what happened to him anywayi liked seeing his stuff
>>7942869can someone flame this nigger like i got flamed last thread for not accepting retarded crit?
checked again after 2 months im not ip banned anymore hehe im not sure why i was anyways
>>7942878
Been a while since I posted something here.Have not particularly improved, do not half ass your efforts.Was mostly a irl person/skin rendering and copying exercise, stopped after I noticed some proportions were off and it felt like polishing a thingy while making myself younger subconsciously(my face is not that firm, wew) lel.Also trying to figure out how to animfy this mug...Good luck friends.
I can't do this anymore, its too embarrassing. I think I've forgotten how to render and my colors are way too off. Proportions are fucked too, doesn't even evoke anything close to the originals emotion.Is there a way to train my colorpicking? I don't want to start doing still lives but I will if I have too.>>7942830Soulless. AI shittifies anything it touches. Learn to draw like a real man >>7942878based gwen stacy enjoyer
>>7942886Where'd you find such a cute woman?
>>7942875I think he was getting targeted by schizos and dipped out
>>7942870nta Why did you change the underwear type anon?
>>7942668How do I improve how it looks? from my untrained eye, I see nothing wrong, but I'm aware something must be wrong. I drew this with minimal references and just winging it as I went along. Its a little plainbut thats only because I wanted an idea on what to do to improve.
>>7942890>>>/hr/5215418Here you go, I didn't do her justice.
>>7942907idk, just did what came naturally. I had to redraw the hip which meant redrawing the underwear.
>>7942912We'd need more information to really give you any direction. What style are you going for here? Cartoonish? Any artists you're trying to go for specifically?
Decided to finish it>>7942912It seems kinda blurry? The shoulder on our right is too high maybe too making the head kinda off kilter
>>7942854Another redline but from a retard this time.
>>7942900once again schizo ruin everything...
>>7942927hands need work anon
>>7942875He's still on xitter.
>>7942927explain the physics of the sideways flame please.
where can I improve I want to make my art look less western and more anime
>>7942930Yeah... I'll keep practicing>>7942932Do they not do that? oops
>>7942830Why did the AI keep the fucking head shape lmao
>>7942935I highly recommend Hogarth. He teaches you some funny tricks with hands.
>>7942938do you think don bluth made furry porn
>>7942945I'll check it out, ty :>
>>7942926Not really any artist in mind, just drawing until i think its right. but if I were to say, Maybe a bit scott pilgrim-ish. I'm just getting an idea of what I should focus on to improve my art. >>7942927thats because I used a pencil brush. but yeah im starting to notice the anatomy errors. e.g the upper fore arms are way too long. and also bad perspective.
>>7942927Oh, yikes. That is not how fire is supposed to look, surely you can do better if you applied yourself. In any case, omg that is a cute Tsukihi
>>7942886Drawing, like any skill, requires dopamine to be released while doing it in order to reliably reach competency. This allows you to enter the flow state far easier and spend hours without realizing it. Hours which are necessary to achieve competency. Rote repetition.Without this, you will never get good at any skill. Thus, if someone desires to produce artwork but they do not get dopamine (or enter flow states) while drawing, the only viable solution is to search for avenues in which achieving dopamine release and flow states are possible while progressing with said goal.If the goal is:>I want to learn to drawThen there's nothing you can do.But if it's something like:>I want to have artwork for my gameor>I want concept designs for a cover for a bookThis opens you up to other possibilities when drawing isn't viable, as it is not for me (I don't enjoy the act of drawing or mark-making).Of course, I'm not saying AI is the best route, it's simply ONE route for producing artwork. There's painting, 3D, sculpting, and other artforms that also exist. AI is simply the easiest to produce output--which is also why it's the least valuable. It's also the most technical when you want it to be. You can choose to produce slop or you can choose to learn all the technicals that go into actually producing an output. It's up to the person to decide if they want to produce slop or actually work a single output to perfection.Like I said before, I probably won't even get into AI art.It's just one of many routes I can take IF I choose to get back into it.My point is that the physical act of making marks on the page is simply not for me.But if I still have a reason to produce something, I'm doing myself a disservice by forcing myself to do a skill in which I hate doing and find no enjoyment in. That's the crux.And, in fact, that's the advice of /ic/.>if you don't like drawing, then you shouldn't do itWhy would there be a problem in taking their advice?
>>7942945YOTSUGI RUN
>>7942954this is like 50% solid as fuck advice and also 50% total bullshit just because it makes me upset lolBut real talk, I think you can go a long ways if you're doing it purely because>I want to learn to drawis such a flexible goal, you are more prone to changing your goal when you get bored. It can backfire though, I'd think, which is how you get really good artists starting to deteriorate after a point, since what appeals to them is changing due to them not having a solid goal. Flexibility is key, but I can only speak from the perspective of a fucking mentally broken NEET who spends 90% of his time drawing and nothing else. (sometimes for pocket change)Truest to your advice is the last few lines. Being downright addicted to drawing will help drag you through your roughest patches. Because that's all they are; rough patches.
what a schizo post
>>7942948All them animators were pervs.
>>7942954just draw dude
>>7942948Ex disney artists have said Disney supposedly has a collection of porn the workers have drawn of the characters because it's technically disney property if they drew it while working there.
>>7942965“Just draw” is why I’m a permabeg.
>>7942969hmm nah it's probably because you are schizophrenic.
>>7942959Are goals really necessary when you love the act itself though?When it came to writing, I never had to force myself to create a goal, I just did it because it was fun, even if I wrote absolutely nothing of meaning. I didn't have use "discipline" or whatever to make myself do it.I think the goal of anyone who tries to pursue art is to choose the medium in which they find themselves drawn to rather than the "correct" approach. That's why being open to AI art is helpful. It doesn't mean that is what you will do, it simply proves to yourself that you're not forcing a paradigm based off of preconceptions that YOU didn't even come up with yourself.For all I know, I might become a fucking trad sculptor, I don't know. Maybe I find that the act of doing so actually releases dopamine and gives me satisfaction compared to putting lines on a page. But restricting myself to JUST drawing was likely the reason I never made much progress considering the other forms of art that exist.>>7942965>>7942969This works if you actually enjoy the physical act of drawing, just like "just write" actually works if you enjoy writing.When you don't, no amount of forcing yourself will get you to produce good artwork.Good artwork is never produced by people forcing themselves to draw when they hate doing it.Plus talent does exist but I wouldn't say this is a massive advantage. Just makes things easier in the beginning.
>>7942972Oh yeah well fuck you, you fucking piece of shit!
>>7942868>>7942870>>7942928Thank you kindly
>>7942953Ty. This was my first time drawing fire but I’ll do some studies before I try to again.
>>7942974no fuck you benchod basterd benchod draw grab the pencil fuk u mom
>>7942980No u And your a faggot
>>7942973hold upWhy are you even in this board?
>>7942839Aye that be the point
>>7942996Crab bucket. They're dogshit at art and don't want to put in the effort to improve so they want others to give up like they did.
>>7943000I wonder if foids have this same problem
>>7943000the post is pure schizophrenic babble doe, chances are hes mentally ill. Trust me i'm a mentally based expert myself
>>7942973baiting something that doesn't exist.
>>7942690theres cool images in that archive
>>7942973Eww Ai nigger
>>7942886pick better references
>>7942690I don't know anything about horses, I could only guess about their muscles
>>7942954>I don't enjoy the act of drawing or mark-makingShad? Is that you?
>>7943024Based to a hitherto unseen degree.
>>7942886Instead of drawing the hair as individual brush strands, first sketch the general shape as a block and then use a semi transparent chalk-like brush going light (in the middle) to dark (closer to the ends) to render the hair. Rendering the blonde hair may be easier if you make a large blob in a midtone, then lights, then add darks, only after the end adding individual strands. Add the darkest unbleached roots last. >colors are way too offGenuinely, because you are learning you should just use the eyedropper tool to compare the colors in the image to the ones you are picking. You are choosing tones that are way too bright and saturated compared to your reference, and not taking the light of the reference into account either. Why are you using a white background when the background of the original reference is a warm toned grey? Using the eyedropper on the ref will show you that the original color of the white eyes and teeth are not an exact #ffffff white, they are closer to the warm grey of the background. You are taking the colors out of their context. Train your color picking by literally color picking and it will become a lot easier.The yellow blonde of your artwork has a green undertone while your reference is a warm honey-blonde which would have more of a soft brown undertone. You recognize the warm undertone when you tried to depict the roots and the bangs, but you went to an entirely different part of the colorwheel for the strands.Try drawing and rendering entirely in greyscale to understand the values before going in with color. You use mostly flat colors and have little to no value in your artwork, while the value is easily the most striking part of your reference photo. After rendering in greyscale, apply color with a clipping layer. Stick to a very limited desaturated palette picked directly from your reference.
Bleh
>>7943048nooooooooooo dont cryyyyyyyyyyyy
>>7943058dont be afraid to play with darker valuespushing the contrast makes it more appealing and adds depth
>>7943069these boots are made for walkin'
>>7943069>Never thought I'd Big Steppy as a Black Templar
>>7943060She just like me fr
Anons who post art without asking for critique; what would you like from posting here?
>>7943087I’ll take critique of my crying girl pls>>7943048
I tried doing a cute drawing for a change.
>>7943096Start from base 1. Line weight, forms, construction and perspective need to be your primary focus as of now. This is a very flat drawing, it’s quite unclear, and it just looks sloppy. I advise that you warm up with line weight exercises and Practice drawing from the shoulder annd not the wrist, which you are clearly doing here. Additionally study artists whose work and style that you enjoy and go from. Keep posting and good luck
>>7943065I'm using my darkest pitt matte pencils for the shading but I don't press hard enough I think, maybe I should just use regular pencils, they're much darker.
>>7943107cute
>>79427140.0001 damage :)>>7942753I used to draw porn for draw threads and I do agree that buttholes are really hard to get right.>>7942808I can't shade either :)>>7943031Good horse drawing.
>>7943087it's a critique board, you don't have to explicitly ask for crit
>>7943154But thou must. It's polite to do so.
>>7943087I just want to know if anyone considers my stuff decent enough to make a reply, if no one replys then that means i need to improve, a critique could pinpoint what is wrong but thats rare here, if anyone wants a critique they should go to salt to trigger the sperg that thinks that even davinci draws like shit, at the very least that dude gives an opinion before the thread dies.
reply to image ratio of last thread and this thread3:1This feels low post a fucking scribble with your text post or just write your post on paper and send the image
>>7943034No>>7943000>original post: if drawing in particular isn't working for you, other forms of art exist>retard interpretation: hEs sYaing T2 jUsT gVe Up!>>7943004>i can't find a flaw in his argument so it's schizo babble>>7943002Women follow the path of least resistance just like everyone else.If staying a healthy weight is easier, they'll do that.If becoming obese is easier, they'll do that.That's why some women immediately bloatmax once they get married, it's simply the easiest route.All artists are exactly the same.If drawing was genuinely hard and took discipline, they would never achieve competency.They continue to draw only because it is the path of least resistance.This can no longer be disproven because anons here literally prove me right by saying to give up if you don't enjoy drawing << proving my point exactly>>7942996Before?To learn how to draw.Now that I've accumulated over a decade worth of skill building knowledge and 7 years of drawing on and off?Mostly to bait.But always with sprinkles of truth.I could've just said:>i'll try to learn sculptingor>i'll try to learn paintinginstead of mentioning AI, but that's hardly ever interesting.Always gotta mix in some truth with the bait, otherwise no one will take it.Though the whole AI debate is interesting anyway because it reduces the need for artwork without purpose. Artwork to display skill rather than to tell a story or get an emotion across, both of which AI don't do--not because of AI itself but of the people mass producing the slop. All of the people who see drawing as JUST a skill rather than a medium in which convey something have all become obsolete. What I find interesting is that instead of evolving with the change, artists on here double down on their pompousness, calling people who spend hundreds of hours drawing "lazy" just because they lack talent. It's truly interesting to see the downfall of the mark-maker. Can't say they didn't bring it upon themselves.
>>7943177> post ratioIt doesn't matter at all
>>7943201Your post is not only insightful — it's illuminating.
how can i stop vidya addiction
>>7943205play tekken 8
>>7942675Just decided to visit here randomly and it sucks so much. No wonder I'm spending more time on art subreddits than here.
>>7943205Play too much that you get bored from playing it.
>>7943213>ledditLOL. Post your work you coward.
>>7943205smoke meth you'll love it more than vidya and stop in no time
>>7943205Modern games are trash, love yourself nigga.
>>7943205Sell your console
>>7943213pyw
>>7943213
>>7943201You are lazy. An idiot who spouts nothing of substance.
7 year anon is BACK!
>>7943224low effort garbage
>>7943201>decade worth of skill building knowledge and 7 years of drawing on and off?7 years of dicking around and little to no applicable knowledge towards the craft? Really nigga? How are you so incompetent? Both in writing and drawing?
>>7943213As someone who has used Reddit for a while, this place is 1000% better than any subreddit you’ll ever find, at least in terms of art critique. People on Reddit dont take it as seriously as the people here and the people here want to see each other improve so they tell you the honest to God truth.
>>7943205fuck kinda game you playing to be addicted to video games in 2026
>>7942668Working on drawing my backyard how’s the perspective so far
having fun>>7943236im unironically addicted to video games (the worst kind of games as well)imagine if I quit video games and solely focused on art, fuark...
>>7943246Completely wrong. Lengthwise your lines are converging in the opposite direction.
>>7943205cold turkey
>>7943249blog fellow 58chad?
>>7943201>being unable to conceive of something being both difficult and also enjoyable and rewardingI deeply pity you, and all like you
>>7943255How would you fix it?
>>7943261i dont have one!!
>>7943265heh as it should be I suppose
>>7943214i'll get there>>7943236mongolian fortnite>>7943256i'll look it up thanks
>addicted video game nerds mogs me to oblivionis this the power of video games?
>>7943263There's no fixing it, start over. Just keep in mind lines should converge INTO the drawing.Read lesson 1 from drawabox too.
i've been drawing for a long time if that makes you feel better
>>7943267>Elden trash>MPjesus christ
>>7943270lol it’s in ballpoint pen so there’s no starting over. I made the length lines as parallel and straight as possible, so I’m just gonna go from there
>>7943274Lmao do what you want anon but you will not make this look right.
>>7943275I’m a magician, I can make anything look good. Plus I’m not trying to be perfect, so it’s fine
>>7943274>lol it’s in ballpoint pen so there’s no starting over.anon only has one piece of paper at his house
>>7943278>I'm not trying to be perfect so the actual opposite of perfect is good enough :)Some people are just ngmi, I have to learn to accept it.
>>7943229only the best garbage for you my love
>>7943279lol it’s in a sketchbook >>7943281lol anon it’s just a drawing at the end of the day. It’s not like it’s the last couch I’m ever going to draw. I’m just gonna finish it, learn from it and move on. Perfectionism gets you nowhere in art
>>7943288>lol it’s in a sketchbookanon's sketchbook has one page
>>7943269its a visual medium that requires long term concentation. its similar
>>7943296The others are filled up nerd
>>7943267>nightreignyoure excused
where are my (You) you flamming faggots?
>>7943236Elden Ring. I always get that dark fantasy itch. Anyways, my ultimate goal is to be able to draw dark fantasy concept art like what you see for Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3. So that's my advice: to quit vidya addiction and draw instead, aim to be able to draw your favorite games.
>>7943107omg that is a cute meido
>>7942886>Is there a way to train my colorpicking?Yes, you need to compare to the reference before you start filling in the colors, do it over and over again and you'll get better.
>>7942886colors can be fixed with filters, you should worry about the relationship between the colors you arleady painted downthis isnt even digital cheating, this mindset has been in practice as far as painting history goes back
>>7943021what archive is it?
Making good progress on it. Gonna take a break with Bridgman then I’ll post when done
>>7943203Years of experience tends to do that.Most people here have never done any other skill than drawing which limits their understanding.That's why it eludes them that people can't good at drawing after years and need to rush towards simplistic conclusions.The average artist is a simplistic creature, not an educated one.This is proven by the fact that drawing itself is rote repetition as opposed to amassing a large amount of knowledge.Just look at the person I replied to below. That's the average intelligence of the typical artist on /ic/. Nuance is a foreign language to the average artist on /ic/.>>7943225Nope. Nice try though.I'm certainly far more hard working than you.You can prove the above wrong by pointing out a single flaw in my argument.(I recommend you don't bother trying, you wouldn't want to embarrass yourself.)>>7943231Studied Vilppu, Hampton, Eaton, Bridgman, etc.My knowledge about drawing and art is about a 9/10.Drawing requires rote repetition however, like factory labor. That knowledge is useless for drawing itself but I can see it being quite useful directing AI art-agents.Essentially, I become an Art Director rather than sticking to the lower rungs of mark-making. I can see this as being feasible.>>7943262Another failure in reading comprehension.>difficulty =/= forcing yourselfCompetitive video games are "difficult." Good luck achieving any kind of success with just a few hundred hours when people play those for 6-12 hours a day.Just because something is difficult, doesn't automatically mean the person put in effort in order to improve at that skill. No one would ever consider playing a video game for hours a day as being "disciplined."The same applies to drawing.Artists are generally not disciplined.They got good at drawing by accident.It often came easily to them.This is precisely why people on here call others "lazy" or "retarded."If drawing was actually difficult, those responses would have no logical weight.
Regarding the last portion, if drawing was genuinely difficult, it would logically not follow that anyone who cannot achieve success is mentally incapacitated. That would make no sense. To say that would imply that drawing IS easy and IS simple to learn that doesn't require much effort. Thus, you imply:>drawing is SO easy that you have to literally be stupid/retarded/etc. to not improveBut you then contradict yourselves by implying the exact opposite.So is drawing difficult or is it not difficult?By your responses, you admit that drawing came so easily to you that anyone who couldn't improve simply had to be mentally ill or incapable of learning.Thus, drawing was easy for all of you, is your admission.>HL Note: Logical Trap has been laid; users will be unable to argue against this point without conceding to one of the proposed arguments.
>>7943341NTA but drawing is incredibly easy. Anybody can draw. Getting good at it is what’s difficult
what's with the spam
>>7943269I have filters set up to hide retarded posts with fag words like "mog" so why did your worthless post show up in my sphere of reality?
"""""DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!""""
>>7943337You are educated?
>>7943352Don't reply to that retard.
>>7943354Ban evading no? pretty sure he was banned for the AI no draw troll thread
New kink discovered.Full size and uncompressed:https://files.catbox.moe/4fa0zy.png
>>7943352I would listen to this anon: >>7943354Artists on /ic/ have proven themselves incapable of making any logical arguments.Attempting to argue any of my points would only make you look stupid.I'd advise against it to preserve your ego.>>7943357Nope.
Im just doing edits this day from other artists to learn about colors and other stuff...I did this factorio edit today.
>>7943360I told you.You are here forever.You stay here with us.
I am done with this reddit stupid karma system. Reddit hate new users.
>>7943381most new users are bots
nah I'd draw
>>7943383Only the bad ones are arrogant. I've never seen a god who's arrogant, seek knowledge from the top of the pyramid and surround yourself with liked minded individuals.
>>7943113>>7943324Thanks!
>>7943337Lord of the Bias
>>7942668I enjoyed drawing this.
>>7943358MORE
>>7943410When I draw cubes I feel so much pain because i can't draw them well but when i draw gestures and figures its much more enjoyable.But I absolutely know that cubes are needed. What should I do? I also cannot draw ellipses well.
>>7942835This is nice.
>>7943410stop chicken scratching
>>7943420leave him be ... you animal he is just starting.
>>7943414cubes are only there to help you guide placement of bodyparts and to help with perspective
Why is one punch man regarded good?I "copied" it, to make a comparison of art, assuming it is the art that makes people like it. Assuming this is the case, then, what is it? More detail? more style? Why would mine by unpopular but the webcomic popular? I dont see what is better in the manga art- AND IF I DONT SEE BETTER, I BETTER LEARN HOW TO SEE WHAT IS BETTER INSTEAD OF SOULLESSLY TRYING TO RECREATE LESSONS!
>>7943410Nice work!>>7943414Probably just do a little bit of both? I don't know if you have the habit of doing construction after doing gesture, but that could be a good way to practice.
What do we think
>>7942882Pretty good man. I like it. Good work. I would say you didn't make yourself look younger, you actually made yourself look older.
>>7943442Its just a drawing :/
>>7943128I know you're skilled and talented but the current state of the sketch is damn near unreadable.>>7943335Pillow is a bit too blocky. Perpsective is a great start though. I think the more you work on it, the more you'll discover your weaker spots.>>7943414The more you suck at something, the more you should draw it I think. It'll be painful but worth it after a while.
>>7943442I know the feet are bad.... And the anatomy isn't perfect.
>>7943411What exactly?
>>7943445A drawing of WHAT
>>7943446Pyw
>>7943436>>7943436not terrible, did you lay guidelines down before drawing? did you use a reference? I like the character design and the pose is full of personality. her horns are good. sovl. her left arm is disconnected from the shoulder and floating off the body but your main issue is just a lack of knowing how the skeleton works undernearth
>>7943449More beheading threatening role play.
>>7943460Pyw retard
>>7943461Do yo have in mind the exact scenario (helluva boss characters)?
Painting is too hard. I feel lost each and every time I try. If there are any paintbros out there then please hear my plea and teach me how to paint...
>>7943471Can you stop talking about troonslops?
>>7943471Not really. I just liked the idea.
>>7943472watch sakimi chan lol
>>7943472find a different brush
Sketch>>7942945I bought his book, thanks again :>
>>7943460I didn't use a reference... Im too lazy and over confident
>>7943520nothing wrong with trying that once in a while to try and hone your freehand skills but yes a reference would have helped you out a lot. as well as blocking out the pose beforehand. Try finding a reference and redrawing the piece, you'll notice improvement immediately
>>7943525I really do have to be in the mood or the whole process is just so aggravating I don't wanna do it.
I AM DONE DRAWING BAN ME NIGGER
MY BALLS ITCH
I'm worried, I'm starting to feel that porn is disgusting.
>>7943549IT IS
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Anyone have any advice for an aphantasiafag trying to do freeform shape practiceim so bad at this i want to neck IM A NO TALENT IM NOTHING
Someone's got a full diaper.
>>7943576Can't you just start drawing and adjust?
>>7943585>Can't you just start drawing?It's implicitly understood I've already started drawing, and I am unhappy with the shitty shapes im producing
>>7943589And then draw different shapes
:o
:D
>:(Watch it's gonna green text it now
Knew it
>>7943594just go back to posting your one word spammy bullshit you pathetic GET-seeking wojack fag
>Doing some warm up stretches
challenge from the last thread (failed by my own evaluation)>>7943552impossible without talent
>>7943603I'm just trying to help.
>>7943606You mess up the face.
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>>7943606You improve the face.
I apologize for my earlier messages. I was overcome with . I will resolve to do better going forward.
fuck is wrong with you nigga. HUH!? BLANA
>>7943589Then change the lines. Once you have something on paper you should be able to fix it right? Or do you literally forget what a box looks like?
>>7943576I read on another board that aphantasia isn't real.
>>7943487Yeah I've been trying to figure out what the ideal brush would be for ages. You got any clues?
im starting to understand assholes better>>7943606impossible without REFERENCEwhat that image is missing is applying a glaze of reflect lights to make everything look right + you have done a neutral job on the face>>7943605>>7943494i hate you>>7943128i hate you + this brush doesnt serve you well>>7943472twisted ankle but i guess its too late for that now>>7943358kinda based, a SHITLOAD of empty space though like wow, compose it next time
>>7942690Based image anon, but people on here only draw big tittied girls
>>7943634Oh ok screw you too
>>7943446Yeah I agree, but I’m gonna try to give it more of a pillowy form as I go along. We’ll have to see. Thanks for the crit
>>7943634:/
Losing my mind over pen pressure. Do you guys change both your drawing program (CSP) settings and tablet (Wacom) settings to be the same or leave one of them alone?
Getting harder
>>7943646What the - I'm right now experimenting with the same thing, weird coincidenceI just go by feel to be honest, so a mix of both. I started out trad so I know what my "natural" pen pressure is, so I adjust the graph as best as I can so it feels the most natural
>>7943635My apologies, this is the actual thread challenge
>>7942886>>7943044>>7943325Took way too long on this, half the time was spent dicking around with a new brush. I tried to make the color choices more meaningful but I mostly winged it. Thank you for the advice though, it was very helpful. Would you say it looks better now?
just some silly drawings
>>7943031Damn this is great anon
>>7943677I hate you nigga
>>7943693I hate me too desu, what's your reason
hi ichow can I make a red-ish heart in the middle with a color that goes along with the rest ? thank you
>>7943659fixed a few areas, but it still doesn't exude the same emotion as the original. I think I messed up on the proportions in my underdrawing>>7943690fuuck your lines are making me hard>>7943698if I had an ounce of your skill...
in terms of perspective, all lines must converge at some point right? And that point of convergence is always the vanishing point? for the blocks in the back im having trouble trying to figure out how to do the rooftops, or if that should even be visible
silly bath drawingthe original pic was hot but this just looks silly
>>7943719and the original pic for referenceI fucked it up bigly
>>7943718Vertical convergence doesn't exist in 1 or 2 point perspective.Start with a horizon line. Everything below the horizon line will have its top plane visible.
>>7943723not at all I had a perfect happy idyllic life, why
This shit takes forever, maybe I should start tracing 3D models instead. How difficult is it to learn how to pose a model in blender?
>>7943677>the erectionlmao, kino>>7943693hey, leave my FRIEND alone>>7943730now youre thinking>How difficult is it to learn how to pose a model in blender?Not at all, in fact, you dont even need blenders, CSP comes with a model poser
>>7943731I'm on linux, so I don't know if I can run CSP, besides I've always wanted to learn blender so this may be a good chance to do it.
>>7943728Ahh okay that makes more sense. Thank you
Bros, I just got hit with a massive post clarity. I've been blasting video games and porn non stop for a month now and just completley stopped drawing. I had to sit in my filth for a minute and come to terms with the fact that I've got one life and I've GOT finish this comic, i really hope i can pull myself back to drawing all the time...stay safe out there guys.
>>7943740pyw now or you're destined to head back into the goon mines in a week
>>7943744I think that's the last thing I drew, pls don't send me back to the mines :(
>>7943747you're being sent to the draw mines instead, don't fuck it up.
did a sketch inspired by ww1 shock troops
i hate everyone in this thread who mogs me
>>7943756This you? >>7943634
>>7943758no this is me >>7943703
>>7943058Very nice, which paper are you using there?
Still a wip
>>7943770The drawings themselves aren't bad, but this is a very bad comic, i can't understand what's happening without a TON of effort
>>7943388>Only the bad ones are arrogantGranted.
>>7943631depends, i favour markers or soft brushes for rendering a lotor watercolor with special canvas
>>7943774It's meant to be read like a manga (right to left). Though without context it might still not make much sense.
>>7943783doesnt matter, the movement itslf is bad>first 2 panels, 180 spin>next 2 panels,a closeup that only makes it harder to see what he picked, also what a weird way to tap something>next 2 panel, some kind of turrent appears (?), a shot of a machine's arm?
>>7943770>what do you wish foresl? that phrasing makes it sound like a genie and not like a rail car or whatever
>>7943785>closeup that only makes it harder to see what he pickedAre you blind?>next 2 panel, some kind of turrent appears (?), a shot of a machine's arm?It's a docking clamp. Like picrel. There will be a wider shot on the following page showing what's going to the reader.
>>7943787He's not on a rail car. It's a space station for refueling and repairing spaceships. It's written like that simply because it's a customer service thing.
>>7943788im not blind you fucking retard but you're not drawing a riddle you're drawing a comic, it's supposed to read itself, thats how you get people to read your bullshitpeople are not even gonna give you 1/10 of the time I gave you. I had trouble reading your page, other people? they’re not even gonna read they’re gonna just close the tabWhy are you even drawing a comic when you're gonna have this attitude, just schizo-ramble your whole story into a .txt file, since you're so confident you don't even have to make it appealing to read.tldr read bakuman and humble yourself
>>7943793Lol
>>7943770everything looks flat despite the attempts of hatchingreally bad use of screen tone that is just grating on the eyes and makes everything harder to read
>>7943793based
>>7943770Everyone attack him.
That's what you get for not drawing gay shota guro rape porn.
>>7943797harder to read? just read it are you blind?
>>7943770Retarded
>>7943806>readyou didn't even write any dialogue and everything within the panels is formless and unclear
>>7943804shut up pedro this is such a dumb forced meme
>>7943804Real
>>7943770what the fuck happening in here nigger
>>7943810That's not me (the guy who drew it), just so you know.
>>7943770Unappealing
>>7943755>>7943747>>7943731>>7943719>>7943634Blogposterrrss whyyyyy
>>7943819because no one every gives me any feedback or advice when i ask so whats the point
>>7943731needs shading to properly express the formalso where are his tits
>>7943779Noted. Do your start off with those right away or do you lay down the shadows with a hard edge brush first?
maybe I am just cursed to just looking at art.
Honey wake up new shitting on zoomers video has arrived, niggas in university don't know how to write anymore LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GFVyl6n91YMotor lessNo critical thinkingLow self-esteem big egoLow IQ Dogshit Failure of a Generation And remember kids, weak men create hard times
wanted to draw a sorceress with flying orbs but it became this >>7942690holy based challenge>>7943107cute, i think the winky eye could be placed better it looks like the left side of the face is pointing up and the right side of the face is pointing downwards
>>7943839>Motor less>No critical thinking>Low self-esteem big ego>Low IQ>Dogshit Failure of a Generationme but I'm 32 (zillennial)
>>7943839It doesn't sound like he is shitting on anyone
>>7943839i have horrible dysgraphia, genetically fucked to be a permabeg i guess
>>7943205make drawing the first thing you do each day if possible, don't play vidya before itdraw long enough each day and then you can reward yourself with some vidya after.ultimately, all of those great designs you see in video games that you love? those designers are drawing much, much more than they are playing, if at all really
Is there no way to make CSP's "color wheel 2" show up as your default color wheel instead of having to go through the stupid color picker menu or whatever it's called?
>>7943846of course you do sweety ;)
>>7943446>>7943634Noted.>>7943755Cool sketch
>>7943635Ironic since the only delivery featured a big tittied anime girl
>>7943824does it though? Its magically gonna be worth anyone time if i add shading? seems like a waste of effort and heartache>also where are his titswhy would a man have tits though>>7943839>>7943838make a new thread faggot
>>7943829heres ,my method :3after im done with 3 i decide if i want high lights or not
>>7943866>does it though?yes it doesvalue is the 2nd most important thing in drawing
>>7943871so, did it make a difference? To me it just seems like an alternative version isntead of an upgrade
>>7943770This goes hard
but we are only in page two, why make a new thread
>>7943733so far it's more fun than drawing
Time to draw
>>7943494Another draft
30 seconds for a figure sounds like nothing until you realise 10 figures takes 30 minutes
>>7943552not enough contrast, the values are too close together
>>7943472For rendering, starting from shadow mapping or shadow and light shapes will be the first obstacle for you. Although outside of rendering, your drawing has a lot of confusion going on around the hips. Make sure to draw your shapes through others to see how they can connect. It's not very clear what the other leg is doing or how it connects to her hip.Anyway, after you've established the main shadow and light shapes, you need to add a middle tone to round the form. Notice how there's some parts of the shadow shapes where I don't add midtone? That's mostly because it's a cast shadow rather than a form shadow. We can go into things like the penumbra of a cast shadow, but your better off giving form shadows the midtone and cast shadows kept as they are. Then you need to make the gradient where the midtone meets the terminator. That's edge control mostly. You can then keep adding on modelling factors 1 by 1. I finished off by adding some ambient occlusion. Defining areas in the shadow. With how light the value of her skin is, it's difficult to add highlights or do subtler modeling because the value range is so narrow. For now I'd stick to just getting the light and shadow shapes in place. Blending or adding more modeling factors won't help you much right now. I'd recommend a basics drawing course with a good focus on observation followed up by a course featuring things you'd like to draw (i.e. anime girls). Hope this helps.
Just draw what you love drawing.
/beg/ here, wat do?
>>7943935Is that a self portrait.
>>7943935Kill yourself.
>>7943024thanks for the reference. Couldn't figure out how to do the shadows without dirtying up the image. Not satisfied with her hands, but at least its easier than rendering.>>7943935if thats you, dm me
>>7943935For /begs/ make the proportion sex typing until mixing it uo. Hand is feminine, Nail not well drawn. The thighs is skinny, suggesting feminine or young male. Penis is masculine. Just decide on one gender until draftsmanship is fixed.
>>7943935ic weiner LOL
>>7943935paige coded
Every where I post, I am ignored.No one even bothers to call my work shit, or anything for that matter
>>7943944rudeI drew that before and it didn't look that weird
>>7943949This looks like a bald man seen from above in a very narrow alley
>>7943952Lmfao. The artist's eye.
I just copy draws xd
quick cat study
>>7943928It does help. A lot. And yeah the main troubles that I feel like I have do seem to be rooted in the basics. I'm stubborn though, so hopefully I can make this work somehow. I do feel like I'm making some progress in learning with this piece.Anyway, thank you very much!
troll post got more you than real posts. This place is terrible.
>>7943960People like you make me sick. Always complaining, never actually putting in the effort to make the change you want to see.
>>7943960if you want help just ask for it? posting a picture means nothing, we see it and move on. Posting a picture + asking for help might net you more (you)s if that's what you want
Struggling with the hands and head again.
I have no accuracy at all and I have no talent.I cant even plagiarize right.Is it over if you have no talent for even copying? Nobody who tried to get into drawing and wasnt able to at least copy made it.I want to cry.
>>7943970the head looks messed up too
>>7943972How do I fix it? Pls tell.
>>7943973it looks more like a pig than a person
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI AM NOT IMPROVING!
>>7943982who cares as long as you're having fun and enjoying yourself
>>7943985I DO NOT HAVE FUN BEING PERMABEG GARBAGE WHO CANT DRAW FOR SHIT YOU FUCKING TALENTED RAT.would YOU HAVE FUN JUMPING INTO A POOL ONLY TO DROWN
>>7943986I'm not talented lol
>>7943982good
>>7943990FUCK YOU TWAT.
>>79439221 figure takes me 4 hours
>>7944017
>>7944021resize before editing, yeah thats the ticket
>>7943922Nigger your math is off
>>7943031huh...
>>7943031>>7944037it's so fucking good im dying of jealousy
>>7943973draw the neck and look up how the head connects to the body, also theres no back of the head. a lot of art styles have perfect circles but if youre struggling with drawing the head going for a more realistic skill shape will help you
>>7944038If it's any consolation, my first years were filled with maximum frustration and polish turds
>>7944037Fuck you talent fag
>>7944024those eyelashes are symbol drawing
>>7944037>>7944040>https://dad.gallery/users/4177Liar. There are no turd at all. Fucking talent fag.
>>7944048I meant really early, like picrelthose ones you found are from two years ago
>>7944049still mog me. I wanna kms
>>7944049so copy a referencerun it through a AI model or what?The drawings look fake. Not a vendetta, him and the BR drawings are always weird, they look weird, always will be weird, weird weird weird, as if there was no human thought behind them. Absolutely 0 understanding of mass and volume just weird fetishism to become an "artist" Maybe they are brute forced drawings, i think most losers just draw the same shit forever
>>7944053pyw
>>7944049aside from eye and head placement on a few of these, these are hardly the worst thing ever...
>>7944056unfortunately my pre covid things ended up on my old hard drive
hiding the lack of appeal with my chickien scratches>>7943872the silence.. is deafening>>7943987CUTE elf
>>7944057Reminds me of the cat,I love cats and respect male cat owners so much
>>7944060I wish this method could work for me but it usually doesn’t
>>7944060Don't show this to tracerfags and refapes
>>7944060I literally used this method to build the horseman here >>7943031
>>7944060This and doing shadows are the greatest way to draw imo, volume by volume mass by mass. Too complex though, requires complete understanding of the thing you are drawing and being able to rotate volumes at will.
>>7944058I hate your sketches troon.
