If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, over-analyzing schizos, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>Post Your Work>STICKY:New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0QHardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewHardcore (working link): https://hackmd.io/@ArtStudies/rJxNW6aonHardcore (wayback archive):https://hackmd.io/@0uRfwdEoRDiHFz9wibb5sA/ry8nyys6-lCompleted(short):https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jUeG8UTwDAK8WGC4f79IlBGIAGVipfHvo48RF5Xgxyc (sus discord server don't join)Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/vieww/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/>WHERE to get study materials>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7977080
sovl OP
This is the one
>>7980446Maybe it's too high? The angle looks like it's aiming at her belly button, try dropping it down a little
>thread shitters made to the op>I didn't again
Did I capture her likeness?
clothes are a brutal fucking filter holy shit
>>7980492Stop being a coward and add those smile lines
>discord clique OP
>>7980491OP is an insecure resentful faggot.
>>7980496>Woke linesNo thank you
>>7980501What the FUCK is woke about having an expression? Right now she looks vacant, like she got clubbed over the head, or like a vampire. It’s unnatural looking. You’re just a coward who’s afraid you can’t get it to look good.
>>7980503they're not falling for it, permabegkungive it up
machinary is kinda fun>>7980503western game developers are obsessed with nasalabial folds for some reason
>>7980472
>>7980508pretty coolthe tail should be fatter tho
*sips brake cleaner*
Why does my art look like a child made it?
>>7980508If that's her bra on the bottom, shouldn't a hint of her areola be showing?
>>7980520huh probably yes
>>7980500>>7980498>>7980491I'll be real I just scrolled through the old thread and picked out the ones I like :/
>>7980472nice OP (and I made it in tee-hee)>>7980490art
>>7980529>he liked hatkid despicable cubes
>>7980529Nigger even if you put TWENTY of the retards posting in the thread they'll still complain because their shitty drawings didn't get stuck up on the fridge. If everybody was special or participation awards, then getting OP isn't special. Ignore them and continue to make OPs using drawings that make the most eye catching thumbnail as collage.
>>7980529that's the way it should be...and the circles practice, because it's so essential to this thread.
>>7980529I believe you, seeing the shit I scanned being in there lmao.
>>7980534gotta have some true beg essence in there
Either way enough talking about my OP post its time to start drawing!! Can't make it without drawing
The Movink was the best purchase I ever made, I'm drawing more often and it feels so much easier to start drawing now because I can just pull it out whenever instead of going to a separate room.
>>7980528>first Kluri, Rosalinde and now this gacha girlEuropean (French) men sure like their brown women, huh?
>>7980472>>7980479>>7980480The discord clique has regained control.
>>7980542don't forget Bay bro
>do a sketch and line work of something im surprisingly happy withnow to completely fucking ruin it with horrible shading
I drew two garlics today.
>>7980551These arent bad, next time try and get some more confidence with your lines. For the dark shadows keeping the direction of your lines the same will look better. I'd also recommend you look at some hatching examples
>>7980556I am already trying to gain line confidence. I do it by consistently doing those drawabox and peter han line exercises as part of my warm ups as well as doing some few elipses, basic 2d shapes and boxes, before I start drawing. I am also looking forward to improve my values by rewatching some proko vids and taking notes. Then making my lines more diverse by reading pen & ink drawing workbook. Thanks for the advice though.
i drew this on my new display tablet
>>7980558Those exercises are useful although for me I found that they didnt help me as much as just doodling in my free time, the kind of doodles people do while on the phone. I like to fill a small digital canvas with lines but in a free form abstract way (I can give an example if you'd like). In your sketch from imagination the lines are better so you can do it, the main issue in that drawing is the little 'swirls' you have, the line exercise will help you use more of your wrist and arm to draw which should help with continuous line making.
>>7980566Could you point out those swirls?
>>7980563you'd need to tilt the wrist to hold a knife like thatright now either the palm or the fingers are made of rubber
>>7980492you dont seemto understand that the likeness of the face requires PERFECT drawing, the chin isnt there, the brow isnt there, the nose isnt there, the eyes arent there
>>7980571oh ur right. thats such a stupid mistake idk why that didnt stick out to me, it looks so weird now
>>7980472>all figureslopgay op
>>798057490% of all art is "figureslop", 1girl white_void is the single most common type of drawing on the internet
>>7980573just draw the hand before you draw the knife, you can way more interesting things on paper like that.
>>7980551
>>7980493hideGOD has you coveredhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdQ-Ii-gZf8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1J-V1Q1sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FgVUzizsfohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnpQjzCJGQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbsqtANtiLghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC5DenYAUuIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hl0s2IVH1Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56hIS96OQj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC6jp72gjUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3cer3Nk_r8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2a583eU7KEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u49KN5lrPKc
>>7980551>>7980568Does this help?
>>7980563
>>7980581i appreciate iti wish he did a video on like armor or something i want to draw some fantasy stuff too
>>7980581Hide-sama my FUARKING hero...
>>7980541the 14 or 11 inch one? 11 sounds a bit small
>>7980586woah.. thank you! i'll redraw it tomorrow
>>7980585nta but he could just paint over that stuff like the other anon did
>>7980603Thats true, it just depends on what outcome you want if you're not going to paint over it then it is important to get the lines correct. Just a guess at least since they're drawn with pen over a pencil sketch so presumably its not drawn with paint in mind
>>7980605Yeah i agree, thank you for your service anon>>7980579You too, garlic paint bro. It's Kino...
>slightly off centerfucking kill meAny horrible mistakes I should correct before adding clothes and finally color? The right arm was definitely the most adventurous I was being here, I didn't have any kind of pinterest guide to consult for that. Also not very sure about this neckline. (I'm pretty limited on time this weekend and she has a simple skirt dress so I was lazy the waist down)
time to relax from drawing digimon, so i'm drawing a car for the first time :-DWIP, very fun stuff.
warm up doodle bye bye CV :(>>7980492Good job. It's a little too wide, but you did a good job on the nose, eyes, and eyebrows.>>7980496>>7980503Focusing on local value is a bad choice. Smile lines don't reinforce the emotion, they even appear in expressions like disgust, so they don't add anything. Instead, they make the image busier and introduce values that compete with the eyes and eyebrows.>>7980508Compared to the rest of the image, the boobs are really flat.>>7980511keep going.
>Oh I'm using a ruler for this? Keeping my lines straight is the hardest part so this will be easy.Jesus, something about this is fucking with my head and I just can't get the last line to be in the right spot. Suppose I'll get it eventually, however.
>>7980623cant see shit
>>7980624Yeah it's supposed to be a bunch of boxes but I fucked up somewhere along the way.
>>7980558Also, speaking of drawabox. I already finished lesson 1 and 250 boxes challenge. Moved on to peter han (currently at week 3). I was wondering If I should include charles hu and krenz into my repertoire of art teachers.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW.
Just drew this, I hope it's readable.First time posting here.
I wish I didn’t hate doing line art as much as I do, I feel like when I put in the time for it I can achieve some really good results but otherwise it’s just a stiff mess, at least this is starting to look good to me rather than ugly. One of these days I’ll just start pumping out sketches of my oc and finally become a true /ic/ schizo but I fear I’d feel to embarrassed to do that.
>>7980629
>>7980633Start off with keys to drawing or dsrb. If you prefer to learn from videos. Try watching brent eviston's course.
>>7980640Oops wrong anon>>7980629Try learning from keys to drawing or drawing on the right side of the brain. If you prefer to learn from videos. Then watch brent eviston's course.
>>7980507>I actually disagree, I quite liked this version more. However...Thank you so much anon! I can't believe you took the time to do that! Much appreciated!Although, That's what I meant, I KNOW that >>7979102 second version has a much more accurate and "realistic" perspective composition than the first one >>7977822 but I still prefer the first one for personal tastes and "fun". I do the weird perspective and anatomy in a conscious manner, I just "let it happen" xD, though I know it's not accurate in a realistic way.>>7980472NICE OP THREAD IMAGE!!!>>7980490COOL>>7980492Beautiful drawing!!!>>7980508You're the best!>>7980621NICE!!!>>7980631Beautiful face and head!!!This is really good over all, but that extended forearm and hand on the left need some serious fixing. It is weird because the other arm and hand holding the rifle are really well done. I guess that hand+arm is in a quite difficult angle. Amazing work on those ruffles on the dress and head too, amazing effort.
trying to shade this but i have no idea how to do that for the hair or give some implied strands without just making a ton of random lines
more weichun hands
>>7980645>>7980647No problem, Peril. You're a certified draw chad so I'm happy to help you when I feel like you need it. Cool composition.
>had the day off work today>told myself i would use it to study>did nothing but relax all dayi wanna kill myself
>>7980631all of those are things to work on for sure, but what jumps out to me the most is your notion of 3d spacetry drawing a floor grid so that the elements in the picture fit together and you'll see what I mean
>>7980631I tried. I hope it helps. I really like her face!>>7980656Thanks anon!!!! You're very kind!
i think my proportions are getting better, unless i'm imagining that
How does one wrap their head around which type of brush to use? I'm using Procreate, and I'm struggling to find a brush that I like let alone figuring out what the settings for each individual brush should be.
>>7980631GOD MADE ME TALENTLES.S O AM TIRED OF ANY FUCKER JUST BEING IMPOSSIBLY BETTER THAN ME.WHY FUCKING WHYNOBODY INVITES ME TO MAGMAS OR WANTS TO DRAW WITH ME BECAUSE I AM FUCKING PERMABEG SHIT.
>>7980669You stupid permabeg nigger literally just start drawing. Read and draw from keys to drawing or DSRB. If you want to learn from videos, just use brent eviston's course. However, if you don't feel comfortable moving to those books yet, start a small habit of drawing whatever you like, even if it sucks because we all suck as a beginner. YOU ARE GENUINELY RETARDED. IF YOU JUST WHINE ALL DAY. CRYING ABOUT TALENT YOU STUPID PERMABEG.
>>7980670BUT I CANT. MY SPATIAL AWARENESS IS SHIT. MY ACCURACY IS SHIT.I CANT LEARN IF I CANT COPY I AM FUCKING DOOMED.
>>7980671Copying is fine. Do that.
>>7980665based
>>7980668your main tools will be a hard edge brush, a soft brush (like an airbrush) and the lasso tool (which you can combine with the airbrush to create shapes with both hard and soft edges)a pencil brush is nice for sketching, and texture brushes are useful for finishing touches and to add variation
>>7980668depends on the type of mark you want to make. this video is a good overview of the basic ones. ctrl-paint's videos on brushes are good if you need more.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt_vn7hf06U
cute?
>>7980672BUT I CANT.
>>7980685What makes you think you cant? Just because it looks horrible? Y'know. You don't have to be so perfectionistic. Besides a bad drawing is still a drawing at the end of the day. Sometimes, you have to make shitty drawings then analyze and reflect on them. Know where your flaws are and then study how it can be cured.
>>7980685If you can draw a line. Then you have great potential that has yet to be unlocked.
>>7980649i use this tyoew of opainting when i try to convey tons of strans using a base color or just a round brush with opacity then erasing as a hightligh and using a darker tone with the same brush to convey shadows, the trick is being able to convey the formsBONUS CRABBINGi recomend using the blur tool for soft areas like the belly, tits legs instead the hard round brush because it leaves some fugly ass waves of different shados when dont incorrectly, its not bad but you need to know how to do them.also work on your forms those tits lack some fucking forms.
>>7980684the face could be rounder...also shouldnt her belly be in the shadows the lighting makes it look as if her upper torso and her belly are in different planes kek
>>7980631isnt this an ancient ass thread challenge >>7980706DRAW MY REQUEST DRAW MY REQUEST DRAW MY REQUEST
>>7980704fuckkk thanks for replying with the help!!!!i will endeavor to experiment like that i have some kind of hangup on using different brushes or trying them outi was just using the airbrush (i know i know i shouldnt...) because i didnt know how to blendand i will work on my forms....
gonna lock in this summer and actually learn painting instead of trying to half-ass it
>>7980491you thought you were gonna escape my wip spam in the new thread?few more hours, I adjusted the proportions, tried to color lineart inside the silhouette but because I drew with opacity on the colors ended up looking bleak, and airbrished a few spots with pink. what buttons do I press next. why does it look bad/unfinished (if you think it looks good please ignore, and keep in mind that I'm mentally hadicapped so I you're gonna talk to me about terminators and ambient occlusions know that it won't help me any)I exported the psd https://files.catbox.moe/kjl88q.psd>>7980695me fr
>>7977095Can I have some guidance on using boxes to foreshorten? I don't truly understand how it works to be honest.
15 min doodle
Talentless "fun"
>>7980740what was the point of this exercise?
Help me settle a debateAre these guys bunnies or onis?
>>7980747The point is simply to draw something.
>>7980748bonnies
>>7980748I think they are supposed to be bunnies but the ears are way too far forward making them look like horns. they should be in line with where the ears normally are, just further up the head.
>>7980748I would rape the one on the left until I bred 8 rabbits and made her my wife
>>7980747there's no point he's just procrastinating
>>7980731I would recommend doing the first lessons of Draw-a-Box, using vanishing points. This way, you'll be used to drawing boxes in perspective, and then eye balling boxes the best way you can since using vanishing points every time you want to draw a figure becomes impractical.
>>7980755Hate to break it to you but that's a guy and his girlfriend
>>7980760I doubt that is going to dissuade anon much
Arale
i dont think i have ever even seen a figure drawn with more than 1 vanishing point distorting it.
>>7980756>procrastinatingI wouldn't be doing this if I had talent.
>>7980780Damn, you really are fucking sheltered if you've never met a lazy sack of shit with talent.
Just started getting into anatomy. I shouldn't have chosen this pose but it interested me. This is 3 hours into my study. Will finish when I feel I have adequately captured the form.Definitely bit off more than I could chew but I'm actually enjoying this, despite the struggle.
This might sound like a weird take at first, but I think going through a lot of guides and tutorials before actually doing something is strictly detrimental. It introduces analysis paralysis and raises your standards for what you are "supposed" to be doing. Use me as a cautionary tale and just draw instead.
>>7980799i tried based on our ref to make the prototype
>>7980596I got the 11, it is small but it’s just big enough that the size isn’t an issue
Goblin barmaid
>>7980814should i change something in it?
grater. my friend. i feel you are up to the challenge. can you draw a fat guy getting belly rode (like belly riding the hentai tag) i feel like it would be very based if you drew it. he can look however you want. thank you.
>>7980832yeah the camera or scanner and paper
>>7980834what? you mean fanny packing? or do you want actual horses
>>7980845something like this please: https://files.catbox.moe/n2gkmh.jpgi saw it and it reminded me of something you would make
oh my bad it's clique time. Keep forgetting the site is worthless.
>>7980816cute>>7980645adorable :333>>7980513i also like shitting my pants on tuesdays
>>7980726okey then screw you guise, I'm back to morphoslop
>>7980748Now that the debate is settled, do you like the drawing?
>>7980672No, it's really not...An original idea is a thousand times better than a copy, even if not a well executed
>>7980726You draw, I did not consider you a shitter.
>>7980735Thank you for spending so little time on drawing furry shit
>>7980819Ears are truly disgusting
>>7980836I am sorry I don't get it
Thread challenge.
>c2517bc0b26eed5b79ad9ba0e
There is something wrong with the anatomy here I know it, but what? This sort of leaning-forward pose was definitely overambitious to do without any specific reference. Actually, does it look like she's actually leaning forward?
>>7980894>does it look like she's actually leaning forward?not really
I'm way too scared to use my new baohong watercolor block.
>>7980850i dont have a fifth of the appeal that artist has
>>7980908it's hot as fuck anyway, thank you for fulfilling my request. nice king concept too. plus world building factor
I finally finished something. Hair hurts my head.
changed the light direction and drew her like one of those tenten studies
>>7980919damn how does one draw like that?
>>7980921study from this guyhttps://www.artstation.com/shitong
>>7980924thanks man can i ask somethingwhat do you do to avoid the practice trap where you practice and watch tutorials but remain in place?
>>7980919Wow that’s great, gonna check out that guy’s anatomy tuts
>>7980925I don't really see the difference between 'practice' and 'drawing', both are drawing, and both are practiceand both should be funif you're watching something, your first thought should be 'damn I could be drawing instead, is this really worth it?'
>>7980927tanks a bunch
Been grinding figures for the past few days so decided to take a break by making some art of the maid spy girl from the new hunter x hunter chapter
during break I vibed a diagram showing the 3d munsell color space, where each of the munsell hues arrives at maximum chroma, and the different paths colors can take when mixing them (like with paint, rgb, or a linear path)https://pastebin.com/s5Tmm3TRI haven't seen something like this online, so it might be of interest
>>7980894it's kinda hard to tell the pose so just to keep it simple you need to convey the deep of the forseshoretening with lines or with the painting afterwards. ie the drappery in the right sleeve is in perspective same with the botton of her shirt going around her torso instead of that flat line in your pic that doesnt sell the perspective well, same with the neck~shoulder area.Extra crabbingEyes don't close in a flat horinzontal line at the middle point lol. depending on the expression they could be higher, lower or angled. learn some expressions.the face is too boxy even for western styles but maybe it's just muh style of drawing narrow faces but i would make it more like this.
>>7980872Appreciate it bbgrl
I keep scrolling social media and finding z-list influencers to try and start shit with by drawing mean little doodles that sting just a little bit. Why am I like this? I'm genuinely never more driven than when I see some dork with dumb account and what I feel like is an insecurity I can pick on. I dont want to end up in the Neurotic Haters Club with Robert Crumb. Posting this example to get it out of my system
I've been awake for 7 hours and I haven't drawn anything today despite having no other responsibilities
>>7980958Oops, here it is
>>7980819I like the ears, the forms make them feel nice and chunky
>>7980959Well anon. There’s an easy way to fix that.
>>7980959i slept an extra 7 hours personally
>>7980953is this mf DANDAN??
>>7980953Hi DanDan!
>>7980999dandan bros!? how do we come back from this?
>>7980999>you shouldn't help /beg/s who happend to be people that need it the most >instead help the people who are already good and don't any need helpwhat did he mean by this
>>7981006Thread is just worthless at this point, don't worry about it.
chilling Morocco is playing like shit, go canada :)>>7980819I like it. Normally, I wouldn't pay much attention to the objects, but since they are in the foreground and at the same level as the boobs, I think they deserve a little more attention. They feel a bit too cramped together, which flattens the other elements.I also think making the angry expression a bit cuter would improve the piece. As for the clothing, adding a some value pockets could help reduce the flatness of the frills. For the illustration itself, it might be nice to give her a more believable reason to look annoyed, like spilling beer on her shirt.Overall, I really like your work. Keep it up, anon!
>>7980919back to the weichun handgrind
>>7981022He is talented
>>7980871is it that horrendously bad?
I just realized that the drawpile thread is gone. Man that's sad, was wondering if maybe we should create a drawpile for begs with autism that want to get good>ban euros who cringe at le hardtry >ban actual autist with face blindness>ban girls>we call each other the N word>we shit on each other>no feel the form trash>you construct and you math n shiet>only anon>etcJust neets, autists and people that geniuly like to draw as a hobby.Then i realize that it wouldn't work, Discord and left brained fags just outnumber the others by way too much, drawing is no longer a right brained hobby in the western hemisphere and it takes a very long time to draw with the right side of the brain. The ego is too small, the hair color too bright. The site is just dying out, maybe MAYBE the alphas will eventually turn the site into something good again but for now it's beyond useless.>>7981021not beg
Also fuck the retards that allowed people to kill anime posting.You should've been on top of them from day 1, day 0 even. Mass reporting or doing at least something to protect the hometurf, you just let it rock
>>7980961Thank ya fellow ear appreciater >>7981016Yeah I gotta admit I got a bit lazy during this piece and didn't give all elements of the composition as much tlc as they needed to push it further. Was going to add a patron kinda rubbing the end of her ear and such which made her angry, but again laziness simply. Thanks for taking the time and giving me a couple of pointers!
so discouraging when all my art "friends" abandon me and give zero comment on my works
>>7981041you don't need friends, just crab on other anons and post your workyou'll get lots of comments
>>7980999Stfu he's helping us talentless unpopular chuds by gracing us with his divine sexy anime redline Chad wisdom. One day we can all hope to become a DanDan and get infinite likes by drawing daily FGO sketches and paintings on Twitter.
>>7981022>guy who draws more than half of you retards combined is making gainsMaybe change your approach.
>>7980631if it helps start thinking of your line art as another sketch layer and let yourself be messy and expressive with it. once you're done you can start cleaning stuff up
>>7981043what is crabbing? don't I have to be a better artist to do that and discourage others? I'm worse than everyone here
"Fun"
how to make this mighty angle with the pose being like towering?
idk
>>7980834>>7980908ngl when I read 'belly riding' I imagined it's something like this>>7980870I appreciate it
>Think about cool stuff I wanna draw all day>Finally get time to sit down and draw>Suddenly have zero ideas or motivationFunny how that works
>>7981073anyone?
>>7981096taper it to the top to exaggerate the height
>>7981098taper?
>>7980931based hxhchad>>7981055you're having the most fun compared to anyone esle here>>7980913needs a fatter belly
>>7981102try to make the red lines converge faster
>>7981105i see, thanksas for the body itself, is it fine?
Are there any good online courses that you can take to learn?
>>7981106I mean yeah but if you really want that towering feeling you would have to start foreshortening more. as in put the camera almost staring up at his crotch or whatever. i wouldn't stress too much about it because you would have to spend a lifetime practicing to get a ""perfect"" (whatever that means) body. as long as you have fun try to incorporate/improve one thing at a time. also, i'm just a random begtard like you so maybe someone with more knowledge can directly redline it without just distorting it
>>7981110thanks but the problem with foreshortening is the box placement
>>7980953Wow, this will really come in handy. Thank you so much!
How do I join the /beg/ clique?
>>7981120im going to hurt myself if I dont have anyone to grow withart is so isolating when you realize people only care about you when youre complimenting or jerking off their art
>>7981122Ngmi mentality. It might already be over...
>>7981125no chance in hell a guy drew thispyt (post your tits)
I don't get why hide channel guy is so popular here
front view portraits are just absolutely insufferable to drawthey make me want to end it all
>>7981122Do you read what you're typing? You want to be cared about... on an anonymous image board? Maybe this isn't the place for you. Maybe try to find fulfillment and approval from your real life instead of anonymous strangers on the internet.
>>7981134He draws anime and he has a lot of step by step process and tutorial videos that go into more detail than just “draw the rest of the owl”
>>7981125Kino but the head are a bit too bug like imo. Given the scene id maybe give a happy or solene expression to the pegasus, im not sure why it's screaming there. Eother way good job anonnette
>>7981137What a bunch of bullshit. I am doing his courses, and he is very "draw the rest of the owl". He lacks proper methods and is a lot of feeling drawing.
>>7981136i have no one IRLi dont know where to find art communities to join
>>7981125>dogYJK
>>7981134he's at the 'effortless mastery' level, where the line he draws is exactly the one he wantsbegs wished drawing worked like that, instead of the struggle it actually is
>>7981073
>>7980852>adorable :333THANK YOU MONKA!!! Adorable doodles are always!>>7981088Damn, you're really putting the work in this! I've never did such an amount of studies and variety of them as you do. Big props to you anon. >>7981084You are amazing appeal god>>7981076God work anon!>>7981055This looks fun!!!!>>7981000This is a really precious piece of art>>7980931HOT, really fucking excellent lower body in particular>>7980913Fucking Brilliant.>>7980908You gotta be probably the best artist in this board, you can do fucking everything, what the hell>>7980799This is real art, I wish I could draw like that for realz
>>7981134Because it's an anime website and hide is a good teacher, are you lost?
>>7981152No one believes your sarcastic comments I bet you have a filter to replace every bad word
>>7981147is this better
>>7981163looks kind of similar perspective wise but the foreshortening is now more noticeable with the head position
THREAD CHALLENGE
>>7981165so i should narrow the lines more?
>>7981169kind of yeah. try to draw just an elongated box/rectangle separately to try and figure out the perspective. fiddle around until it looks like you want it to look and then try the figure inside the box. at least that's what i would try to do to solve perspective issues
>>7980852>adorable :333GO FUCK YOURSELF MONKA!!! Your doodles are always a mess!>>7981088Damn, you're really trying way too hard with this. I've never seen someone do this many studies and still miss this much nuance. Get a life anon.>>7981084You are pure appealslop antichrist>>7981076Mid work anon!>>7981055This looks deranged!!!!>>7981000This is a really self-indulgent piece of garbage>>7980931BARF, really fucking broken lower body in particular>>7980913Fucking embarrassing.>>7980908You gotta be probably the most all-over-the-place artist on this board, you can do fucking everything badly, what the hell>>7980799This barely counts as art, I'm glad I don't draw like that for realz
>>7981171ok thank you
>>7981173WTF I love peril now
>>7981173Based
They're calling peril "Begtrash Niggerkiller" now. Everyone has been saying it.
>>7981186>Begtrash NiggerkillerHas a nice ring to it
>>7981173lmfao
Alcohol markers and sharpie
>>7981135I think at some point they get easier. Like if you mirror a lot of stylized pro portraits they look fucked up. So they must have developed an eye for it where they know how to make it aesthetic without autistically flipping the canvas back and forth and obsessing over symmetry.
>>7981135Just use the butterfly tool. Even trad artists use rulers to measure the facial features accurately when drawing profile.
Definitely didn't get the angle quite right on this and the chin is still off too, but I'm pretty happy with this one
What resources can you guys recommend for studying handsI fucking hate hands
>>7981205did you cut yours off?
>>7981200Why is her neck coming close to her chin? Does she have hyperthyroidism?
>>7981209Studying, not just referencing.
>>7981213Hogarth has a book for that. To be honest, just study hogarth in general. As hogarth is just better as an anatomy teacher in general than bridgman. Since bridgman gets really confusing.
>>7981200That's a nice reference.
>>7981210Hmm, it's the other side of the collar, but I guess that's a good reminder to think about oddities in the reference you can alter for clarity
>>7981210She's tilting the head you mong
>Got a new screenless tablet because I heard these are better for your posture>It's going to take way longer than I thought to get used to the hand-eye coordination vs. the screen tablets I'm used to>It's tinier than I thought it would beIt's over.
How do you guys decide on your style? I feel like I have so many conflicting influences. On one hand, I like more 'realistic' styled stuff like Frazetta's work, but on the other hand, I also like a lot of exaggerated anime art (huge eyes, big heads, huge breasts, you know the deal). How do I strike a balance or decide?
>>7981250pretty sure you dont know what the fuck you are doing anyway.
>>7981260What's more fun to draw. Like if you were burnt out and wanted to draw for fun which would you choose?
You're right, I even drew through the wrong lines. It's never been more over.
>>7981266bro i am saying you dont know the rules of perspective, stop larping
>>7981250If it is an small sized tablet, return it back at once. You need a medium sized screenless tablet to be useful at all for drawing. Other than that, you will have to be patient and consistent with your learning exercises. It is challenging to get used to it, ngl
>>7981250Peril is coming to kill you, begtard. Improve now or die.
>>7981272Who is peril?
>>7981268I did it before I just forget how to do it. I fixed it, kinda but not really. I started Scott Robertson's book, but I'm stuck on the part where he tells you to draw lines for the first time
>>7981273Stay away from "him", a bad seed that's what "he" is.
>>7981282Oh i see.. I searched peril in the thread just now. I hope to become good at drawing like that someday.
>>7981120pyw>>7981122>people only care about you when youre complimenting or jerking off their arti dont even do that
>>7981273 >>7981152He operates a hugging station here, don't fall for the "free hugs" sign. He's evil.
>>7981284>>7977928
>>7981277i havent read the book, but what do you mean you are stuck? i might be able to help or you might help yourself by piecing things together trying to answer the question, sorry if it sounds like i am treating you as stupid, i am not trying to
>>7981152kino steezy>>7980852monker!
>>7981287When you start the book, there is a section dedicated to practicing drawing straight lines to train yourself to control it. I already kinda have a good grasp on that when drawing on paper or a screenless tablet, but I'm going to be practicing it for quite a while on this screenless tablet because it's so alien to me. As for perspective, I learned one-point perspective a couple times by following a tutorial when I needed it, but I already forget how to do it. I guess I'm not even consciously trying to get it correct since I'm being distracted by the inability to draw lines lol. Please ignore my ignorance. It's not intentional.
>>7981152Why no effort on the hand?
>>7981311same reason why he hasn't improved in years and keeps spamming literally the same bodies over and over. He's a prima donna, drawing is not the main objective.
>>7981311"he" is an attention whore and "he"'s getting it. It isn't even low effort anymore, "he" scribble that weird shit on purpose for the dopamine rush. Sad.
>>7981291as someone that did the whole robertson autism with screenless a couple of years back, I can only advise to either do it trad or do it with a screen tabletskill issue ofc, but it's simply easier to place things like ellipses in perspective when drawing with pencil or pen and paper, and there's a limit to how much erasing you can do before it forces you to move on
>>7981321I would normally agree with you, but it's been a goal of mine for a long time to get used to a screenless tablet so I can take advantage of my nice big monitor and also have better posture. I'm finally doing it now, and Robertson's book provides a unique opportunity for me to not only learn perspective, which I foolishly skipped, but also to get used to the tablet. Although you may simply be correct and it may always feel awkward to me if I don't use pen/paper or a screen tablet. I have heard of other people who said they used a screenless tablet for years and it still feels awkward to them for certain things.
>>7981325I still use my screenless sometimes when painting, but it's just not fun for that type of precise technical drawinganyways don't let me dissuade you, just be aware of it in case you find yourself spending more time ctrl'zing than drawingpic related, some of the things I drew on screenless from that time
>>7981325NTA but, is your monitor actually big? I have a regular 24 inch one that I use with a medium tablet (CTL-672) and what annoyed me the most was that a small pencil stroke was magnified due to size difference between tab and monitor. Just telling you in case it helps sizing down what the tab recognizes as drawing area.
>>7981331Fugg you're good Something for me to look forward to, eventually
yo! good afternoon guys, i was wondering if anyone has any tips for using soft brushes?i kinda prefer just using hard brushes and then blending the colours because i feel like i have more control over the colours and values that waybut i want to try something newalso why are brushes based off of markers so weird?
>>798133327 inches, and it has nice colors. I also come from a 24 inch monitor, so 27 inches is like more than I ever needed.I just got the CTL-4100, and the tiny form factor is really throwing me off hah
>>7981284
>>7980773cool arale, broi like the goggles>>7980531is this coach mcgurk's cousin?>>7980630the colours are on point and very vibrant which i love i love saturated colours, but i am having trouble deciphering what this is supposed to be
>>7980652good job bro>>7980666your proportions are on point bro, and your art is cute try drawing the character from other perspectives now>>7980719and dont you dare stop even if u need a break.. dont take too long a hiatus you hear?>>7980709what a fun picture, i love girls with guns
Also let this be a reminder that "style" means nothing if you have no good anatomical knowledge or know how to actually draw. Wasting years polishing turds instead of polishing your skills leads nowhere.
>>7981192those shapes in the back reminds me of the west african masks my grandparents used to have in their housei see mad potential in you bro, is this character inspired by 70s anime btw? he reminds me of someone from gundam>>7981196i have always loved the look of markershow do you go about making highlights? do your marker drawings start out as pencil sketches?>>7981234what a cute artstyle, this would go hard in an obscure art magazine>>7981263what a lucky guy :Dthe way the setting sun illuminates the forest and giantess is very comfy your giantess looks very dreamy i think an animated dream sequence would do wonders if it was soft shaded like this
>>7981352>>7981348>>7981347>>7981152This counts as spam or not yet?
>>7980669>>7980671You shit every thread with your performative autism, contribute absolutely nothing but irritating rants in ALL CAPS to boot, you are not funny, you have no talent other than irking others, I hope you start posting with a name so I can filter your garbage inputs out of sight, useless fucking worm.
>>7981290this is a cool pic of venom this would go so hard as some graffiti is this traditional? what medium is this?>>7981311not him but skimping out on hands is p common for artists hands are hard i assume he felt like people would not pay attn to the other hand but alas this is a forum for artists>>7981346no homo but this is a beautifully drawn cock are there any places i can get clear references of genitalia>inb4 pornthe genitalia is rarely the main focus and ideally i want them to be not in use>>7981353i am just trying to reply to artist that nobody bothered to give the time of day to, These artists posted here because they wanted feedback and i am giving them my feedback, so no this is not "spam". I just want these guys to be acknowledged and to know that their art matters
>>7981351Yes bro :(I have been a fool for far too long. But that shall be no more.
>>7981353Why would it?
>>7981351some people will happily admire a finely polished turd
>>7981359I mean you don't have to learn how to draw if you don't want , art is not exclusive for those who actually like drawing, hell most people don't learn or even want to learn!. Hey which board is this? i keep forgetting.
>>7981338Give us one of your drawings that aren't random beans or thigh blobs and we will tell or show you how it's done.
>>7981363I like to draw, I have just not been very studious in my life. That changed a few years ago, so I am applying that studious energy to drawing now.
anyone have some advice on how to improve the shading?I don't really have any knowledge of what im doing outside of some basic photoshop classes in high school
So what do you think?
We are really putting the /beg/ in beg & int tonight. Myself included.
>>7981370Nigga there's famous /ints/ like DanDan and uglybastard fag redlining shit for you
>>7981372I hope he redlines me soon.
>>7981369kino>>7981368ludo
>>7981364well thats the point, i was just trying to practice using a soft brush so i drew some organic forms to practice onwhen i figure something out then i will try to apply it to a finished piece
>>7981373Who? Dandan or the other guy?
>>7981372am I a famous int too?
>>7981368>the fact that you shaded her neck with a colour this similar to the background made it blend with the background a bit>look into hue shifting>learn how to shade 3d forms and then organic forms
>>7981372>intsThis is how real /int/ stuff looks. The powerlevel chart is bullshit though.
>>7980052page2, i think i went overboard with the effects this time lol, epilepsy warning >>7981346uhh thanks for the fanart?>>7981311your point is kinda undermined by the fact that you killed the gesture>>7980819the ears are a bit too much>>7981368i would improve the drawing desu>>7981358i mean its not really feedback if you never say nothing negative or critical, we're all adults here we don't need constant encouragement >>7981383so what does advanced art look like to you
>>7981384get me too >>7981369
>>7981383too messy, even begs can clean up better than that
I have learned the only practical difference between /int/ and /pro/ is whether or not you get hired at Square Enix.
>>7981384>so what does advanced art look like to youhttps://www.youtube.com/live/mUSCEQaM_lE?t=12638s
I worked hard on this.
>>7981384There was no gesture in that blob peril drew lol
>>7981388even begs can get hired. but we're talking about skill level. just cause you get paid doesn't mean you have pro skill level, so advanced in the better term.
>>7981396>even begs can get hired.Sure, by sheer luck. Doesn't happen all that often, the ints and pros beat them out. Well, I can't really tell the difference when the so-called int stuff here looks so good it could be on a Square Enix box art. Perhaps to my untrained eye, but also perhaps the hiring managers at those companies also have untrained eyes and the only ones who can see the difference are technical drawing nerds competing with each other.
if anyone sees something wrong with this, could i get a redline on this please? maybe in green though because i sketched in red
>>7981400weird dog >>7981393cute
I did it
>>7981380cool, thanks!
>>7980052Not to be that guy, but I think you should work on your gesture and line quality as a lot of the characters appear a bit short and you always kill the gesture on your action poses. You also have no real sense of being able to draw your characters on a ground plane and the lines look choppy and messy.
>>7981400no, you deathmog the threadseriously though the boot and the bag seem flatter than everything else>>7981393pure soul, would masturbate to if you drew the right fetish>>7981389this is the ~same skill level he just renders, are you this clueless? >>7981369hands are lacking, her right hand appears to have 2 fingers, the gigantic deadspace above her is strange, the bg is just slop, it's completely idealess>>7981408well i guess i will just kill myself then
>>7981410>if you drew the right fetishAnd which would that be?
>>7981410>this is the ~same skill level he just renders, are you this clueless?It's clearly not. it makes that piece look like beg garbage in the same way that piece makes beg garbage look like beg garbage.I mean for a westerner its probably ok , shame western art doesn't really teach appeal.>renderingHe didn't even render the piece, it's all tonal values
>>7981415You're the most clueless useless person in these threads, thanks for identifying yourself with these vods at least
>>7981420And you are extremely butthurt for absolutely no reason. >>7981400This piece is mediocre, try hard mediocrity.Even if you only compare the pure linework the Eo58 piece mogs it to hell I have a theory as to why this happens, people like uglybastard and what not just give up at some point and they end up spamming the same generic garbage, it's like the western mind is not able to understand appeal so it ends up breaking their EGO and they start tilting to the other side. Western Cartoons with big features are easy to draw, don't believe me? try it. Everyone can draw a batman, a joker perchance? can't do it? use a tutorial. Feels like drawing generic/ugly is a requirement to become a int westerner artist.
just look at the huge power gap between these 3. It almost makes the first one look like it was made by a retarded kid (or westerner same shit anyways)
>>7981422you only consume soulless digiart slop, you're talking out of your ass when you haven't seen 5% of total japanese artistic professional output. You have no eye for style or narrative or emotion, theres nothing in your head other than your japanese racial supremacy fetish and schizo solo echochamber (aka a padded cell where you should be) blabber. The fact you post 8 hour vods betrays that you dont draw just watch that shit all day and sperg out here as you're left in the 8th circle of dust. Just saying, crab.
>>7981424cant tell if this is a troll or if you are just stupid>CrabDoesn't work like that, drawing is drawing no one can put you down.
>>7981369more soul than the monogatari pedo
>>7981438I was just going to ask when he was going to open his commissions desu I love his work
pxg let me commish you
enter the real /beg/ hours
>>7981445That's my girlfriend
Could someone help me around with her left hand? Shes supposed to be holding a palette.>shitty fig made it into the opyipeeAlso, tried drawing from imagination; turned out garbage. Its times like these I wonder why I even try.>>7981422I've got the opposite problem, I try drawing more western, but whatever I do it just looks like anime trash. Maybe I was japanese in my last life?>>7981414mogs me
>>7981423somebody has to tell you to fuck off
>>7980748I was onto something yesterday but couldn't recapture the muse
>>7981400OH MY FUCKING GOD! This is AMAZING anon! I wish to draw like this someday. So much crazy detail! >o<! The bear hat is my favorite thing. I did a quick version of it (too quick, a totally forgot the shield that I wanted to do lol), thanks for the inspo anon!>>7981173LMFAO!!!!!!>>7981290>kino steezyTHANK YOU SO MUCH!!! KINO VENOM!!!>>7981311hee-hee-hee... Thanks for the redline anon!!!! I really like the forearm!>>7981383This is so cool, and interesting to look at!>>7981384You're the best anon, can't believe you're doing this, please go on!>>7981283THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! You're too kind!>>7981263MY FAVORITE ITT! SAVED! This is beautiful all around. Beautiful face, beautiful arms, beautiful colors, beautiful render.>>7981234Her face is incredibly pretty, such pleasant stylization result. Loved it.>>7981192Another pretty drawing, AMAZING arm and hand with the folds and everything. Beautiful piece.
>>7981457fag
Do you guys ever felt like your art has improved even though you haven't drawn anything in months?I passively try to understand how things around me are actually structured and it kinda seem to help me get better a bit.I know that I would just get waaaay better if I did my art daily, but I kinda gave up getting gud. So I only draw once or twice when inspirations hit and it really seem like I am improving even though I didn't actively tried to. Well at least relatively to the level I was on before
huh jpg creates some artifacs on pure green thin lines interesting.>>7981125Cute. With some work (face expression), it could easily be part of a coming of age book. Composition wise, going for a squarer aspect ratio would bring more closeness and intimacy to the scene.>>7981157the values are really good!, good work>>7981400Same as >>7981016: if you're going to have objects in the foreground at the focal point, spend more time on them. For me, this is incredibly hard to read. There's too much local value, especially in the fur, which creates unnecessary blank spaces within the object and ends up making those areas the focus of the image (contrast).Study the masters, especially their horses and Hercules paintings.About the feet that >>7981410 mentioned, I disagree. When you ride something in a horseback stance, your feet naturally point outward in a V shape, which you captured. If anything, the soles would be slightly visible, but that's such a minor detail that it wouldn't add anything to the piece. Honestly, it's a waste of time to worry about. Yours is fine, focus on the composition.
>>7981459yes it can help but it's super small compared to juist actually drawing
>pink line artist didnt hugbox mei will never make it...
>>7981459Art is as much about drawing as math is about numbers or dancing is about shoes. We use drawing as a means of expression and a manifestation of art, but art is really about relationships, abstraction, and storytelling. So yes, you can improve without drawing for months simply by observing the world and being mindful of it. Read the art spirit one of the greatest books about this, aesthetics is a good subject too.
>>7981468>So yes, you can improve without drawing for months simply by observing the world and being mindful of it.You don't really believe that bullshit, no way.
>>7981459i feel it but it's an illusion. you actually have to draw to get better.
>>7981446you don't even know her name>>7981454mogs me nice fishnets>>7981449i tried looking for references but all the pictures had the palette from above besides this one where she isn't holding it like you would so i traced a picture i took of my hand holding a paper i stuck my thumb through hopefully this helps
>>7981470nta you can but its like improving your scientific model without doing any experiments, you're just gambling in your head without checking if anything works
>>7981470But I do. The mindful part is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. It's not just about abandoning it and doing nothing.
>>7981166playing with those weird tenten proportions
>>7981358>tradno this with a screenless wacom and krita (cuz its free).more comfy with just pencil/pen/paper but digital is fun to fuck around with.
>>7980095Thanks friend i'm flattered. I already have some idea on what i want to draw next so maybe later(I also have never watched either of them lol)
this is my best one i think
How do I stop being insecure about my art spending hours polishing shit and start getting good?
>>7981490Kino once again anon. Love your stuff
>>7981422>sketch>lineworkbuddy i didn't even do linework yet how can you compare anythingi usually do pet portrait commissions in real paint on real canvas, but someone wanted me to draw their character, it's not like i decided he'd be an ugly fuck with a bear hat, they told me he was an ugly fuck with a bear hat and a fat horse with 1 and 1/2 ears
Yo I'm doing boxes and cylinders at every angle is this actually useful or am I just coping so I don't have to draw?
>>7981423this better not be you, MB
>>7981533being able to turn a box at will is the most important skill you can have for construction drawing
>>7981508Unironically saved
>>7981423ok made in abyss pedoigger
>>7981541nta but what video/book would you recommend for this particular thing?
So when I'm painting underneath my sketch layer and then turn off the sketch layer afterwards, there ends up being gaps between the different elements of the image where the actual lines of the sketch were.Is there any way to change my process to negate this? It's more annoying than it should be.
>>7981584outline your whole sketch then bucket fill the insides, then make another layer with clipping mask on and color from there, or alpha lock and color cirectly
>>7981584do like tradchads, paint over the sketch
i am trying to mimic this but can't do itill post my version after
>>7981594i can't do the box angles and it looks stiffill fix dem legs later now i want to fix the torso but how?
>>7981595if you can't copy something it usually is because your eye is not sensitive enough to angles and proportionsdoing some of that krenz accuracy training would help, an anon was doing some the previous thread >>7979616
>>7981605i just can't do the torso angle for some reason like i know how it should be but i dont know how to do it, look mine are like a straight line despite the fact that i curved it
>>7981518Hey alright.
>>7981606right now it's because we're seeing yours more head on than the ref, which is turning more towards 3/4, which in turn makes the ribcage's centerline curve more pronouncedpay attention to the light line that separates the front from the side of the ribcage
>Finally onto perspective stuff in drawabox.While better than my first page. this really is a pain in the ass to do.
>>7981615i didn't get that, but dammit ill try
>>7981619good luck anonno shame either in stopping and coming back to it later, eitherhis approach is pretty demanding in terms of 3d form manipulation
>>7981624damn, ill try my best, thanks
>Bump limitNew thread doko?
>>7981629come back in like, 600 more replies
>>7981508Cuteeee
>>7981624What book is this
>>7981642tenten's book, you can find it in the OP of the artbook thread
>>7981657 getting good
>>7981657Nightmarish body horror proportions.
pain and suffering
>>7981573>>7981634
>>7981668or this?
>>7981594>>7981595Sounds weird but I really wouldn't touch TenTen's studies as an absolute beginner. He's great for high begs trying to reach int.
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I AM FUCKING PERMABEG.THE CANVAS STAYS EMPTY
>>7981677then what to do
>>7981680Draw cylinders in perspective until you've done 5000 of them
>>7981682and?
CAUSE IM A BEGIM A WEIRDO
>>7981657>>7981670 The part at the elbow/start of the forearms looks weirder than in the ref imo
>>7981594>>7981595not trying to discourage you from learning but this is a really misleading picture.There's value in copying either the left or the right figure but there's a problem with the middle one. It makes you think that it's the middle step in a process. (It isn't.)No artist draws the skeleton, then the OUTLINE of the finished figure over it. Instead, you draw the skeleton, then add rough SHAPES onto it until you got the basic form down.Maybe you knew this already but I think it's important to mention.
>>7981692But I'm a BegI'm an schizoWhat the hell am I doing here?I don't belong here..You're so fucking talentedI wish I had talent..
Reminder that listening to music while drawing kills your gains
First time doing this exercise. It's kind of deflating feeling like i did a decent job, but then dragging it over and seeing how wildly off i was. I suppose that's the point, though.
>>7981706i was wondering why he didnt add boxes, he has ones with boxes thoughstill don't know how to do the pose, too tilted
>>7981721 Cause i'm oldI am senile
>>7981721No it doesn't? Helps focus even.
>>7981722I find this one frustrating. I did many times, but I'm not sure if there were any gains or what gains we should expect. First I noticed my tendencies, but when trying to compensate for them in the next iterations, it just ends wrong anyway.
>>7981746I’ve never even be tempted to put music/videos on because drawing absolutely takes 100% of my focus
am i wrong for thinking my image is slightly beautiful?
you guys FEAR that if I ever learn rendering I will SUICIDEMOG you all, so you gatekeep, is that it?
>>7981485tried to follow a yuming li tutorial and turn the previous thread challenge into one of his statue paintingskinda tough ngl
>>7981771Comfort zone cartoon, hate to see it
>>7981783comfort zone for me is not drawing
>>7981783>if you're not drawing realistically your in comfort zone
>>7981759Videos are obviously distracting, some music can be too, like songs with lyrics. But I find that light instrumental tracks help me concentrate on drawing and work and whatnot.
>>7981775Nice work anon, this is pretty good.
i got artblock for last 3 years. everytime i grab tablet, it just blank. i'm losing confidence too
>>7981754I don't know how long you've been doing it, but I'd imagine it takes a while for improvement to become noticeable.
Deconstructing random poses from pinterest
>>7981820ow do you decide how much of the lower block blocks the upper one?
>>7981820>Not even a year drawingI wish I had talent.
wasn't really satisfied with the color vibrancy, added back some oranges and upped the contrastbut now it's time to move on>>7981796thanks!
>>7981820rape mogs me
>>7980472griffith
>>7981820This is how you are supposed to use cubers and cylinders. If only the schizos paid attention.
>>7981849most of us permabeg retards are barely able to think in 3D at all.
>>7981849When will you anons realize that some are very talented and can think in 3d and obviously learn faster while others just fucking cant learn?>Omg dude like just LEARN BETTERThere are sped and honour classes for a reason you disingenous fuck,
>>7981849FUCKING TALENTED FUCK SHUT UP. YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW PAINUL IT IS TO TRY TO LEARN WHILE PERMABEG.THAT FUCKER IS BARELY A YEAR INTO DRAWING AND ALREADY MOGS THE 5-10 YEARS REGULARS.
>>7981843Palpable boy twink. Very nice.
>>7981849>omg JUST BE TALENTED LIKE THE RESTI FUCKING CANT.
Uh oh, melty!
Just draw for "fun"
we need to seperate /beg/ and /int/
>>7981860Or at least: /schizos/ and /beg-int/
>>7981822I'm assuming you mean how much the hips block the torso in a low angle perspective? Tell me if I'm understanding your question correctly or not.In the case of those poses it's a matter of interpreting the reference. Look at it and try to see if the hips intersect the ribcage, then try to determine how much of their bottoms you can see. I think a lot of this ability to perceive body parts as simple shapes comes from practice though, so just be sure to do it somewhat frequently and it should become easier to do over time.
>>7981849i dont know how
>>7981864ok thank you
>>7981864>. I think a lot of this ability to perceive body parts as simple shapes comes from practice though>from practice thoughAnother talented FUCK bragging about how easy it is for him. There are at least 6 anons here who have drawing for minimum 5 years more than you who cant perceive 3d for shit.
>>7981668>>7981673cute
>>7981860this wont work for the 10th time
>>7981849My cube is shitI'm a schizo
>>7981860Read the name of the General >>7980472 > /beg/ & /int/If there are any /int/s here they help to motivate the others. If they go this general would be a wasteland.
>>7981771https://files.catbox.moe/omfnm2.psdhow do I render, what's the retard-proof step by step
>>7981885Damn, this looks a lot better all of a sudden. What's the trick?
Dress study, ref in catbox. I notice my proportions are a lot more dogshit trad, so trying to focus on those as well.https://files.catbox.moe/kawqsf.jpg>>7981671Really nice silhouette work, anon.>>7981775>>7981839I like the softer blending of colors in the og. Gives a more natural feel. It'd be pleasing to see this vibrancy, with the softer halftones.
>>7981886I colored the lineart inside the silhouette and picked a different color for the shadow
>>7981885greyscale and anime celshading are the most anti retarded gorilla proof way of rendering.
>>7981892but what's the step by step
>>7981885btw did anyone notice that I gave her 6 fingers on her left hand? I'm such a fucking retard
>>7981895https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lmcrNqhXchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvUzb-nZXMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWiYWC1aeQ
>>7981872Talented rats will never understand.
>>7981860We need to separate talentless pemabegroids and talented aspiring stars like the favelafags and the horsecockfutaJillanon.>Grate has been drawing for 15 years>Raxav for 15 >Gacha for 12>Lizardrape for 4>Deer for 8>Tomboyfag for 10>Brownlinefuck for 13None of them come close to the TALENT AND GRACE AND APPEAL OF THE SECOND FAVELACHAD.He is already mastering drawing 3d compositions in difficult perspectives within a year of drawing and putting everyone in the fucking ground.If this isnt proof of talent and that he mogs everyone else here then nothing else is and cry me a river you fucking nigger.
>>7981895 Joofoot course. Anime celshading is just flats and shadows with the laso. Good luck finding a good brush for greyscaling doe, the regular round brush with airbrush work fine
i have like 2 video playlists about gesture and construction and a bunch of pose refs and tenten's artstaion and i dont know where to start
mandem said tenten
>>7981912what?
>>7981916I draw non-stop and i'm still a dented talentless fuck
>>7981907I'm starting to see a pattern in these talented rats though.. they have some autistic drive that makes them draw and draw every day non-stop no matter what. They don't care if it is low effort slop or uninspired shit, they just can't stop. Maybe that autistic need to draw is the secret behind the "talent", they just draw till it becomes second nature to them like breathing, eating or shitting.>>7981917sorry I edited the comment. These rats seem to have been drawing in that insane pace for more than ten years tho..
>Overhead stretch
working on improving my portraits, values are always off
>>7981919Powell says hi.
>>7981930neat
>>7981931Powell mentioned. The single greatest example of why "just draw" doesn't work.
>>7981938>The single greatest example of why "just draw" doesn't work.That would be Chris Chan.
>>7981916you mean... le poeple that le like to draw are le good at it....... HOL UP let him cook
>>7981938>>7981939>the greatest examples of why it doesn't work are 2 faceblind autist>uninspiringMeant nothing, the inspiration is the act not the goal.
>>7981939Chris was severely autistic. Pawell was actually a decent, functioning human being who could hold down a job.
>>7981910Literally just pick a random video and go for it
>>7981945>could hold down a job>>7981939>>7981944So he wasnt talented.
>>7981930I knew that face looked familiar..
>>7981899>>7981909what does anime celshading style have that my drawing here doesn't. why does marc brunet say shat for shadows you pick a warmer hue, I read somewhere else that shadows and supposed to be cold. why do I often see artwork that is low-beg in terms of anatomy/shapes but has passable rendering, while I can't even reach that
think i'm going to study faces next. feeling a large disconnect in understanding of them
>>7981953I often wonder if the guy who constantly calls you appealfag is just doing it to troll you.
>>7981954I wish I had a tenth of your talent.
my meltdown is reaching critical mass and I will soon start spamming the board outside of beg>>7981954nice figs man>>7981955I think it's pretty obvious, since he keeps doing it after I've told him to stop several times
>>7981956those are just studies so it's all fraudulent anyways>>7981957thanks boss
>>7981955he's going to the other side, he's loosing appeal and he's already watching marc brunette. Told you niggas, the western brain eventually turns away from the righteous path of kawaii and cool. All his drawings have huge deltoids and unappealing doll like features cause it's easier to draw It was over before it started.
>>7981953nigga going ham on the saturationon a serious note, the color of skin varies a lot, but averages around the low staturation orangein a common light setup, moving towards blue will leave this desaturated orange in the desaturated redsbut with saturation in the transition from light to dark due to subsurface scatteringa common simplification in cell shading is to use a saturated warm color for the shadow
>>7981960thanks talentbro. though I think it's less me losing appeal and more anons gaining eyesight. my drawing skill hasn't really changed since I started posting here>>7981961so if I shift the shadow saturation/hue a little the drawing will suddenly look good?
>>7981957I have some notes I made on shading, I can post them if you'd like.
tips? good?
>>7981960hey alright
Just the coloring left now.
>>7981908i didn't draw for a bunch of years i gave up for like 5 & lost all my gains and had to start over except for garfield porn
>>7981919I try to draw every day too, it doesn't help.
>>7981346You mogged the other guy at his ugly bastard lmao
>>7981972Dave? I feel you bro, sometimes our most fucked up side is the side of us that saves us at the end from total collapse.
>>7981981not Dave unrionically the only thing i drew for years was fucked up horror drawings or Garfield porni wish I was kidding and then i would not draw for a yearyou would get your yearly Garfield with tits fetish porn and move on
>>7981967nothing?
>>7981983bit hard to read, take better photos
>>7981954i think these are referenced, especially one on the right. No one in their right mind would draw that pose, it just doesn't make any sense
>>7981986yes all of them are. these are studies
>>7981984
First time using non-Walmart colored pencils
Anatomy self-evaluation, and also toying around with digital rendering.Wouldn't mind some advice on coloring/shading if anyone has any to offer. There's clearly a lot of room for improvement, but I'm not sure if the main issue(s) is/are too little contrast, dull color choice, and/or anything else.
>>7982022whats with the pooner hate :[
took way too long. I need to learn the software tricks of Krita to speed stuff up.>>7981843teach me ho you render skin, master
>>7982029tif?
>>7982026>>7981166should have quoted the tread challenge ref
>>7981989so?
>>7982023it's a bit early for painting, right now your time is better used drawing
>>7981671great brushwork
>>7982029>>7982025dont you trannies have your larping thread/woman oasis/go AAACK and stay there>but it's a dead threadDon't worry you will be dead too soon enough!
>>7981485absolutely greatsaved.
>>7981885crispy
>>7981422>Eo58this guy is /adv/ or /pro/.Mediocrity is peak for /beg/, /it/ and means he is graduating this thread.This takes at least a year of effort.> Western Cartoons with big features are easy to draw, don't believe me? try it. Everyone can draw a batman, a joker perchance? can't do it? use a tutorial.where did this even come from.Your hatred for Westerners is unfounded. The old Masters were all white and the new ones are white, too. The comic industry in Asia might be high status and loved - but in the West comics are just a product. There's no love in this. It's a political vehicle for some writers. Don't look at the Western comic industry and extrapolate the Western mind from that, We are on the cusp of a civil war, so give us a break.
>>7981423is this nigger really comparing /adv/ with /beg/&/int/?
>>7982034I know, I do still mostly draw, painting is just my occasional flight of fancy for when I'm tired of pencil and want to pretend I'm better than I am.But is it really so bad that there's no use in giving specific criticisms?
>>7982047nvqsvr is intermediate by korean standards. And yeah i like to shit on western trash, i always will, they are the most arrogant dogshit shit eaters. I will forever hate left brained retards and europoors. The moment the old american masters left , the western art sphere became worthless. If you were wise you'd hate them too. the left is a mind disease that deserve no spaces in real life and on the internet.
you can just say you have a porn addiction instead of typing all that seethe because you looked at some modern DnD art or whatever
>>7982056Western /adv/ /pro/ artists are phothobashersChinese NepobabbiesAI slupersthat's it mate, western sphere was over before it even began. Shame they are taking Japan down with them, soon all the good artist will die. Try being less butthurt next time, i can practically smell the vitriol through the screen tranny.
>guy who doesn't post his art randomly shitting on some guy in /beg/ and comparing him to some korean artists because he has a racial supremacy fetish even though he's probably indian
>>7982058Didn't read but imagine being so butthurt you don't even reply.
>>7981953theres no transitions in your shadows nigga you're doing flat shading, the transitions and gradients is where the magic happens
>>7981953you also have low int shapes at best lol
>>7982053It all just exists in your head."Korean standard"What a joke.Look at ARC.
>>7982080Finally someone who says it. However, the guy is a bit arrogant, so I don't point it out. I don't want him to grow. Let him be comfortable in /beg/ /int/.
>>7981771>>7981953I tried, yours is definitely better. Some things I noticed:You have very neat layers, but your resolution is small, I'd double your canvas then scale the drawing down when needed, I work on 3,000 by 6,000 pixels or 6x3 depending if I'm doing standing portraits or landscapes.Your brush and linework have no pen pressure or anti aliasing, it's a nice style but your linework suffers because it can't show any thickness or thinness. You also use the same brush size for the face, which in my opinion is the BIGGEST thing holding you back. Your face is way too simple, if you lowered the brush size and zoom in when drawing the face you'll have more room to add detail to the features.Again, if that's the style you're going for then ignore me, it still looks good and there's plenty of other great artists who draw without any line weight. Your colors are very saturated, the girl in the image is more muted brown as her base color, I can kinda see why you drew her red but she looks sunburned.Your proportions and anatomy are far better than mine so I can't give any critique on that. I also tried not to draw or render exactly the same as the image and stuck with what I know, I think sometimes converting parts to things you're more familiar with is more helpful than being completely accurateI'll post my notes I made on rendering, hopefully you'll find that useful.
>>7981771>>7981771>>7982093It's older and the notes are messy but I still use it.
Should the hip bone be a little higher? or is it ok as is?
>6000 pixels
>>7982118the whole pelvis should.be higher, but who cares.
>>7982121so it's one of those "it's technically wrong but it looks ok"situations. Thanks
>>7982119Is that all you got out of the post? Why the fuck do people bother
>>7982125i am a different person.
>>7981454Quickie
>>7981885
>>7982133hahahhaha holy fuck
Just drew this
Every year this place just gets worse and worse with schizos gradually taking over as nothing is done about them year after year. I can't even tell why I keep coming back to this hellhole
>>7982133holy.....
>>7982136what did he mean by this
>>7982133>That absolute mogBrutal...
>>7982142Mondays....youknowwhatImsaying
>>7980472I want to learn how to draw. I'm looking to buy a drawing tablet but there are a number of models and brands; I know I don't need anything expensive to start, but I'm not sure how to go about looking for something worthwhile. Do you have any recommendations? Is there a big difference between a simple drawing tablet or one with a screen? I don't really care about getting anything fancy.
>>7982144He's just being an insufferable faggot. Par for the course of /ic/.
>>7982144it looks horrible
>>7982159It's almost as if simply applying rendering doesn't make a drawing succeed. The underlying drawing needs to be good, (which it was not) for proper light and shadow to be applied.
>>7982163the underlying drawing is fine though
>>7982164Nah
>>7982163The drawing IS good, one could argue how the rendering doesn't fit but the repaint looks fine too.
I think the rendering is so fucking dogshit it ends up looking funny thats why i laughed. The underlying drawing is fine, perchance ugly by the appealfag usual drawing but whatever, the first one is always a dud move on.
>>7982168Post your rendering, it will be worse than russianfag
How do I stop smearing graphite everywhere like a chimp
>>7981953Look up gungulon on Twitter and copy him.
>>7981577anyone?
>>7982175Look up krenz cube grid, copy it, and then draw it again from memory a few times. brokendraw 25 exercises pdf also has some good exercises including that one on rotating basic forms, it's more like a compilation of exercises he got from other people but I find it useful
>>7982169WIP. I don't see how mine being dogshit makes his not dogshit? You need to drink less onions you stupid imbecile, never fucking ever post again we are trying to get out of this stupid bucket and we don't need people like you.
>>7982188Also blame my dogshit brushes, it's never EVER my fault.
>>7982188You owned him
>>7982188Because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Painting and drawing is understanding and if you post something bad we can easily dismiss your claims as retardation.
>>7982195>Because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.I don't have to, something that looks funny looks funny, not rocket science.
>>7982197Your drawing and painting is ass so we can ignore your opinion, not rocket science
>>7981953i don't know what look you're going for. if you want it to look painted, you should probably start a lot more loosely
>>7981988bad
>>7982199>BWEEEEEEEEEH STOP BEING MEANJust gtfo. Dude waste the entire day trying to get good while you only bring mediocrity and passive aggressiveness with you. Actual crab behavior.not everyone wants to be stuck drawing dogshit portraits like the deerfag or peril for a fucking decade. You don't belong in the autism beam discussions sister.
>>7981384 (You)page 3 (final)damyata damyata damyata>>7980748>>7981971good ideas>>7982022are you a pooner>>7982023rare case of someone who needs to crack open hampton or vilppu books and grind anatomy>>7981952why does it need an ac unit>>7982188now i respect you talentschizo>>7982200too saturated, looks like chocolate
>>7982207your mom is chocolate
draw my chud symbols
>>7981459I drew all the time when I was a kid, stopped in college, and picked it up again after a 10 year hiatus. It was rocky at the start to get back into things and I'm still firmly /beg/, but I feel like my general artistic sense has improved a lot since I was a younger permabeg. Maybe it was all the photography I've done in the meantime.
why am i like this?
>>7982053anime kitsch
I made my own fine line brush from my cat's fur. Why don't they recommend this?
Oh shit, My Garfield art has been deleted! My Bad! I used the Challenge ref >>7981166 for a quick re-post>>7982017COOOL!!! It looks like something from a 80/90s or even 70's per-production art for a sci-fi project, video game, comic, movie or role game.>>7982026Very artistic piece as always! I love that eyes/face are oriented towards the moon in the background. Pretty cool>>7982093OH-MY-GOD... I knew it. I like yours rendition, better than the one appeal-god did! Yours is cuter, the color rendering, the gestures, specially in her left arm going up and foreshortening like that so perfectly, and her legs... her fucking face! Anon this is amazing. You made it.>>7982118Like the other anon said, it depends on your preference, if you can make it look better with her hip placed upper, then go for it. Just do a test of it and take a decision based on how it looks. That's how "appeal" works. If everyone goes 100% "by the book" all the time, then style variety and originality would not exist and everything would be boring.>>7981971I love her faces!>>7981970Beautiful figure and that soft render is so pleasing! Beautiful!>>7981953You did something amazing with this piece, this is peak (You). WOW. Can't stop looking at it. It has that retro feeling that I prefer to this redraw >7982133 wich mixes up soft gradient with your sharp retro style cel shade. I prefer yours better than an in-between thing.>>7981920CUTE AND ADORABLE!>>7981458no, you
>>7982118I like to mimic what mungsaman does with the hips, its exagerated ofc and might not be your cup of tea but it makes for a good foundation which you can later change according to your preferences, imo.this is his deviantart acct but i think he is on pixiv too in case you are interested.https://www.deviantart.com/mungsaman/gallery
I vill make eet. I vill.
>>7982076where do I put those transitions and gradients, and how. I tried blur and mixing brushes, but they feel awkward>>7982080tell me something I don't know!>>7982093>>7982098I can't handle pen pressure, so I'm working with the tools I can manage. I don't think it's impossible to make a good drawing without line variation>Your colors are very saturated, the girl in the image is more muted brown as her base colorbut I've been told that base colors don't matter?? what's people problem with high contrast anyways, I think it looks okay. I'll take a look at your notes thanks>>7982133kill yourself>>7982174I don't know their brushes/layer setup/process so I can't copy them meaningfully. just telling people "go copy X" ain't gonna help them. nice art though>>7982200I like what you did, looks like chocolate (and I have a sweet tooth)
I have this WIP and wanted opinions on the face. Let me explain what I was going for.So a longass time ago on ic, someone made what was most likely a bait thread saying that westerners who draw anime are betraying their European ancestors, and are ultimately wasting their time as they can never truly master a style they have no cultural roots to. Truth or bullshit, I have no clue - but it stayed in my head ever since, and made me ask questions about why I draw anime. And over time, I have felt my artstyle becoming "less anime," for whatever reason, especially as I appreciate a wider variety of art styles, as well as experimenting with my own style in the process. ---ANYWAY, with this recent drawing I tried pushing the face in an extreme direction. What I was going for was a woman who does not look beautiful in a conventional sense but has strong unique features that make her striking regardless. (The lore is she's the priestess in an ascetic cult where removing all body hair is the norm blablabla whatever). But I know me and I know I tend to get tunnelvisioned, which is why I ask for an outside perspective to set me straight.So I ask you: if you were standing across from her and looked her in the eyes, would you think "Wow, there's this inhuman and unconventionally beautiful quality in her that makes me feel oddly attracted to her." or would you think "Dayum this bitch ugly, bitch you bald as fuuuuck"?Be as honest as you want, I'm on the fence myself so you don't have to worry about hurting my feelings. Even if I did successfully fap to completion to the drawing as a test, I want to hear outside opinions. (Although, perhaps alarmingly, I did realize later when I tried sketching some eyebrows and bobcut on her that she looks vaguely like my mother. But if I keep her hairless, not so much... I think.)
>>7982292her teeth looks strange, they are too big and her top lip is too thin.>>7982296no eyebrows will always look creepy. her face looks uncanny, like a doll or bad plastic surgery. chill with the cheekbones unless you want her to look like Bogdanoff.
>>7981449Gave up. Didn't manage to draw too much today, I'll be better tomorrow.>>7981475Thank you>>7982296Looks pretty uncanny to me, but it does remind me of the gerudo>>7982207They shouldve had gay sex
been doin dragons just chilling really not too inspired
i think appealgod's rendering is miles better am i retarded
cel-shading is not rendering
>>7982315No, you're right. Low effort pillow shading is easy, appeal-anon is doing something much more interesting than that.
>>7982305Here dragon kid here any tips I'm using Hardish brushes that sort of have a mini blend effect a bit from KritaHow to make realistic texture overall I don't know If I use less opacity it looks like crapMy technique is to use the color picker between shades within the painting to pick intermediate colors and slowly start blendingIf I pick them from color wheel tends to go to shitIn general how to go more realistic I ttie
>I lift some weights>immediately look pumped and my arms hurt after to let me know I've done something>after a few days I try again and it's not as hard and i can lift a little more>I learn to draw>day one>my lines don't look straight, my circles aren't round and my ellipses are wonky>I can't draw anything I want>day 14>my lines still don't look any straighter, my circles still aren't any rounder and my ellipses are still just as wonky>I still can't draw anything I wantLike not even the slightest improvement
>>7982323did you deliberately practice your lines everyday? the exercises in dynamic sketching helped me
>>7982319Appeal anon can't draw accurate or detailed enough shapes for the flat shapes to work nor do they incorporate any gradients for the cell shading to properly feel finishedeither they can change their style to incorporate more realistic lighting or they need to push their shapes to be more interesting and detailed in the light and shadows.
yeah i think you guys are trolling
>>7982334He asks for crit all the time and tries to humble brag, and then acts pissy when people give him actual criticism
who is the appealfag
>>7982292Her arms are too short and the jacket is too bright. You also added a lot of weird lines onto the neck that could be removed to make it feel better
>>7982330>to draw better you should draw better>>7982341>the jacket is too brightand if you didn't see the reference, would her jacket's color still look off? is there a paticular range on the color wheel where people take their base colors from? or is it a matter of 'feeling it'
>>7982296literally a bald gerudo. I'd be more concerned about her bloated abdomen
>>7982188>>7982205lmfao holy fuck you're bad at drawing, why do you think you get an opinion on people who are objectively better than you? sit down faggot
notes?
>>7982386stop hiding/avoiding the feet. you are not putting any details in anyways
>>7982265Do you have a blog I can follow
>>7982406oh i am not drawing details now, i just want to know if the bod is good like the form and energy
I got a new sketching pad and decided to test out how well it takes to charcoal. I couldn't get the second hand right at all and I could definitely darken the values on the subject's right cheek (our left, their right).
>>7982386I dunno man like, the only thing I can point out is the chest muscles. you drew them all puffed up as if you're combining them with boobs? draw them flat then add tits on top. and yeah try to draw full figs is you're studying gesture and energy, hands and feet play their part too
>>7982442the arm on the left takes too much away from the arm on the right
>>7982451I think the gesture made a nice curved line going from one arm into the other, but you do you
Drew a cat
>>7982458>this skooma ain't sh-
>>7982442thanksbut how do i make the pose look this tilted and well pieced together?
>>7982452directing attention is more important than aesthetics in an active pose like that, notice how it doesnt even look believable.
>>7982154I would say screen tablets are the fancy side. Go for screenless first, and in general, it is the most used anyway. You will have a better time getting a midsized rather than the smaller ones. If you can, a medium-sized wacom (One series).That said, since you are starting, I would not jump to digital yet. Paper and pen is more than enough.
>>7982173Keep your hands clean, and maybe use a piece of paper under it.
>>7982410No, that's the first drawing I've finished.
>>7982357Because everyone gets an opinion, everyone is the main hero and everyone has a gun. Welcome to liberty and freedom you stupid commie.
I ALSO WANT TO BE TALENTED LIKE THE MUSCLEFUTAFAGS. WHY MUST I BE PERMABEG FUCKING TRASH?I WANT TO GET BETTER TOO.if you are doomed without talent you may as well fucking DIE
>>7981152absolute sex <3>>7981173i love youdont ever stop posting>>7981290:DDDDDD>>7981346niuce pee pee
>>7981971isnt sabre missing her bun thing
>>7982489ugh
>>7981908where did you get 13 from..
this general needs new administration
>>7982490If you look at official art, you'll see that neither Saber's bun or Rin's ribbon is ever drawn/seen from this angle. So I just followed their logic.
>>7982513I just noticed I forgot Saber's blue ribbon
>not much of a drawer, did mechanical drafting years ago though>decide I want to learn Krita for handmaking textures for mods for old games (Quake mostly)>dust off my shitty old Surface 3 tablet, get it installed and start messing around>having fun with the knife edge brush, like I'm doing some Bob Ross shit >decide I'll try making a snowy landscape with mountains or glaciers or something>zoom out 2 hours later>pussy caveWelp.
>>7982494eheheheheh
>>7982513wtf is this some mandela effect shit i could have sworn her bun was vissible from that side view and at least half the size of her head kek but it's almost not existent
>>7982526i don't get it
>>7982536I was surprised too. Specially Rin's ribbon since you intuitively expect to see that other half of it showing a little. But whatever
>>7982386What do you think? What to alter?
>>7982540i do and thats what matters
>>7982544still don't get it sorry m8
>>7982546thats okay,here have a sheep
>>7982547very quircky chungus
>>7982523Looks like a wolf's ear. Well, at least you learned how to draw *something*.
>>7981971It's time to learn how to draw faces.
>>7982550that pussy cave Is better than what most people here have made in their entire lives
>>7982543so it's fine?
>>7982552Let’s not get out of hand here
>>7982563would be an improvement from tumblr foids and fags
>>7982558haed is too big
>>7982566noted, legs? arms? torso? any notes
>>7982292>what's people problem with high contrast nta. Your original image isn't high contrast, it's fairly low. It has high color saturation/chroma. The reason why you'd want more contrast between the shadow and lights is to make room for reflected light and halftones. The reflected light you have in the shadows is as bright as the average light side, which is a no-no. Everything that's in the shadow (including reflected light) is darker than anything on the light side. Your lightest shadow is still darker than anything in the light side.pic related, having your values close together isn't bad per se, but attempting to include light effects beyond the terminator is going to make it difficult to manage. It becomes very easy to muddy the rendering and will confuse yourself if you're not careful.
>>7982571Here's what it looks like in grayscale for reference.
>>7981953>>7982571I didn't see this, damn. Forget I said anything
>>7981953>what does anime celshading style have that my drawing here doesn'tMostly your shorthand and drawing skills are lacking. The rendering in an anime isn't going to be very sophisticated. Here in this shot with Deedlit, aside from the terminator separating the light and shadow, there's really only highlights in the eyes and some occlusion in the ear and neck. While the line art gives some charm with varying line width, you could replace it with a consistent with and be largely left with a similar outcome.>why does marc brunet say shat for shadows you pick a warmer hue, I read somewhere else that shadows and supposed to be coldThis is completely contextual. Shadows are just dark versions of an objects inherent colour. Shadow colors change as a result of reflected light. A shadow is cool or warm based on the colour and strength of the light source hitting the object. A blue light source will pull a red coloured object towards blue, but that direct light doesn't hit the shadows. Shadows are excluded from that shift. Therefore the shadow is warm. Sometimes the strength of the light source is so strong it affects the surroundings to the point a room becomes almost monochrome.>low-beg in terms of anatomy/shapes but has passable renderingrendering and anatomy are different skills and require different logic. Anatomy is very often times concerned with line drawing rather than mass drawing. Rendering has more concern with the flat.
>>7982585Finally. A good post.
>>7982568maybe i should change the lower part?
>>7982592feet are too big as well
>>7982593oh come on it's alien feet
>>7982595which is based on human proportion from what you've shown
>>7982598finesmaller feet and head, what else? maybe tilt the torso?
>>7982599that's it if you ask me, i'd polish it from there
>>7982600holy shit, it looks mostly good?that's the first time a piece I make feels good enough, progress hell yeah
>>7982551>>7982550>>7982357>>7982350>>7982341Time to PYW, you fags
>>7982602to me good enough yeah, taking the leap and try to finish something is important too
>>7982603pyw
>>7982604ok i am gonna fix the issues and add detailsbut how do i make the next thing more than good enough?
>>7981443Dm me if you want! :>
>>7982608When you finish that piece you can post it here and ask for critique. After that note the comments down and keep that in mind for your next work
>>7982611alright then thanks
>>7982612books/videos can also help if you want to be more direct. Don't forget to have fun, good luck
>>7982613ty
>>7982571>>7982573>>7982576hey that's helpful man, thank you. you explained it in a retard-friendly way, which I apprectiate>>7982585>the line art gives some charm with varying line width, you could replace it with a consistent with and be largely left with a similar outcomeonly thing I disagree with. I think the linework adds a lot to the drawing in your example. I'm afraid to admit it but I think my kind of linework is incomatible with any rendering I would consider good
>>7982543ok wanted to shade but i remembered i dont know howaltered head and feet even if its subtle
>>7982296I think you can push her proportions more for sure. Right now she kind of just a bald lady with wide and high cheek bones. Uncommon? Sure. Alien? Nah. I suggest looking for funny faces on pinterest. Raising the eyes or changing them beyond what is comfortable helps with this. Right now, her eyes are very generic sexy lady eyes. So long as you keep the face symmetrical, there's a lot you can get a with. Basically, I feel neither oddly attracted or this bitch ugly. Instead it's, "She'd be a baddie if she had hair." Which if you're going for alien beauty, hair should not be the deciding factor. Look at the ginger in pic related, she'd look worse without hair, but the hair doesn't save her. Ya feel me? I think you've got a good foundation to get freaky with it.>>7982637The line work adds a lot to the feeling of softness in Deedlit, but is not the cornerstone or foundation of the drawing or the rendering. The line thickness adds information and feeling on top of the already solid work. You can tell where her face starts to transition from fleshy into bone along her cheek for instance. It's the icing on the cake. Your line art is very thick, using a smaller mark might help circumvent some issues you're having. What would you have in mind as an example of rendering you'd like to achieve or find good?
Still having "fun"
>>7982668
>>7982668MOGS ME
>>7982644so uh....notes before next drawing?
>>7982637>>7982348Yes, actually. The main reason you're having problems "rendering" or painting is that I think you've never done actual realistic painting or rendering before, so when you look at real life you're unintentionally making choices that don't capture the essence of the model in a way that makes sense or is appealing. I highlighted a few things I mentioned here to tell you what I mean in this word salad:The head being slightly more tiltedHer neck being more curvedThe watch looking flat in your versionA small triangular negative space being present in between the jacket and the sleeveHer ass and hip shaped differently,The hands and pockets at more of a diagonal tiltI'd say the main problem isn't your approach but your overall observation skills when it comes to saturation, value control and drawing.Just like how we can tell if something subtly wrong when it comes to a drawing even if we can't see the original reference, we can observe the same slight discomfort for things with lighting and color.If you're satisfied with your current level then you can ignore my critiques. However, since you seem to want to go farther, you have to change your approach and thinking
>>7982656>Your line art is very thick, using a smaller mark might help circumvent some issues you're havingI'm being told that constantly. the problem is, I've been drawing that way for so long, it's pretty much impossible for me to relearn how to draw lineart any other way. it'd be ideal if I could find a coloring style that would fit my thick linesI've done this several times before and it's always embarrassing, but here's a set of some insagram artists I find appealing. didn't pick black-and-white/sketch-centric artists and nsfw ones. those that I think I wouldn't be able to replicate in my lifetime I marked with a cross>>7982701so if I just trace the ref I will look good I'm guessing. since then all the tilts and lengths will be exact
>>7982704>so if I just trace the ref I will look good I'm guessingwhy are you such a bitch
>>7982706why the immediate hostility? I wasn't even trying to be particularly mean this time. are you even the same guy. I'll assume you are. look, I don't disagree with you about the tilts and such, they're not as they are on the ref. I was more focused on coloring it, I was looking for feedback on thaton the other note, here's some studies an artist I like did from refs. do you think his drawings copy all the angles and proportions exactly? and if not, does that make his drawings bad, or discomforting?I'm not trying to defend my own drawing though, it's bad sure, just saying that there can be more to a good drawing than replicating the tilts, gesture can be exaggerated and warped, the silhouette might change
>>7982673any second nowplease help
>>7982716her butt is too round and the way it connects to the leg on the bottom is awkward, it thould be a smoother curve
>>7982701I have to agree with the anon. People should strive for accuracy but not a perfect copy. You're correct about the way he renders though.
>>7982718i see, thanks
>>7982704>I've been drawing that way for so long, it's pretty much impossible for me to relearn how to draw lineart any other wayDo you want to change you're line art? Or do you mostly want to find a way to render that appeals to you? Both require, as my fellow kendoka would tell me as I listen frustratingly, trying something different.Joey doesn't really even render. They're mostly flats, if he goes that far. In fact a good portion of these examples, even ones that are crossed off, are flats with some additional local colour changes or gradients for variety.I do recommend that you try and identify light effects (modeling factors) both in reference and in the art you've posted. It makes it easier to analyze what's going on when you want to replicate it. If you pick one of those examples that you'd like replicate, I can break it down for you and if you feel like it try to apply it to some line art that you have laying around.>those that I think I wouldn't be able to replicate in my lifetimeYou're underestimating how much a lifetime of persistence can do.>>7982713That ain't me. I don't who that is. I'm the fucker here in these --> >>7982656 >>7982571 >>7982585
>>7982718this?
>>7982725He might have meant something more like this. Take a figure drawing course or get some reference if you don't have any. How small is this drawing? I can see the texture of the paper. Are you doing this on watercolour paper? Draw bigger if you're drawing small, it'll help to get your whole arm when making a stroke.
>>7982704I am not that other anon your replied to you. I actually quite enjoy your work, which is why I'm even bothering to give you my time.>just trace over the reference to be good.I think you missed my point.Tracing over the reference simply helps you focus on one thing at instead of being overwhelmed with the extra information of the lighting and extract just the basic shapes and forms as well as tilts forms. The key take away is accuracy is still to try honestly try to replicate those shapes and only stylize slightly if you feel like it aligns with your tastes/goals and training your observational skills to an even higher degree that can allow you to deconstruct and reconstruct references in any manner you wish. Again, the problem I notice is your observational skills, which doesn't have to be 100 percent 1:1 for you to gain something. I'd say 90-95 percent proportional accuracy in width height and shape is enough for doing photo studies like this, even for your style.For example, also notice you tend to make your ribcages too wide. In the red jacket picture ,her far shoulder is tilting away and foreshortening in terms of width compared to your drawing. You appeared to have drawn it at more of a frontal angle making it shoulders look too wide for the pose. Even if you changed the shape design or proportions, this would be something that would carry over into your other work as a mistake.As for your selected art direction, I'd like to highlight that all of them utilize more detail in tones, gradients and almost unanimously use thinner line art and higher amounts of detail than you in the cloth and hair. Perhaps try setting your brush size to 1 or 2 pixels smaller or copy their settings and canvas size and see how you like it.
>>7982728like this?it's a big sketch
>>7982733Good enough. Move onto the next drawing and keep polishing your observational skills.
>>7982735good enough is not enoughhow do i improve these skills and form and boxes?
>>7982736Good enough is fine when good prevents you from doing anything else.Take some courses. Plenty on proko and in the course general. The Russian Academic drawing course with Iliya mirochnik is good but a bit daunting if you want to go the more trad route. Steven Zapata has a course on form and shadow. Dorian Iten has a course on drawing if you'd like that too. He has a shading course and ones he calls guides. The guides are where you'd start.
>>7982713Joey doesn't render and I don't like how he draws either. A lot of gesture, but not enough structure. He has other drawings that are better, these ones I'm not a huge fan of
>>7982738oh shit those need money, they definitely beat video tutorials
>>7982740The russian one you can pirate in the video course general. It's in english. Some good courses you can get there. >>7946629
>>7982741cant i be self taught
>>7982744yes, it's called pirating and you'll get the hang of it.
>>7982745ill just stick to teaching myself via videos
>It's been a year>Still can't understand perspective, 3D or breaking down shapes, nor the Loomis methodHow do I get better?
Not him again...
>>7982291i believe it>>7982202yeah that's the whole point of doing studies so that i stop being bad.but speaking of being bad i need to stop worrying about clean lines. this took ages and I need a lot more output
I seriously don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
>>7982610sowwy... i ran out of money woofmaybe nex time...
I got help from some of the best artists on the website and I still stuck and don't know what I'm doing.
Sweet! Can't wait to have the thread lose its remaining image limit and discussion from this schizos low effort, spammed doodles!
Anons, it's the obvious troll throwing bait left and right, better shower him with (You)s like you always do
>>7982764Anon, I've been doing this for a year, this isn't a troll act.
There are literal teenagers that get better than this in a year. How come I can't despite everything that's been given to me?
>>7982769effort
Shut the fuck up
>>7982770I've been putting in the effort for a fucking year. I don't understand shit still. Seriously. Even after trying Loomis and grinding shapes, I still just fundamentally am unable to understand.
>>7982772show me a study side by side the reference you studied
Hatkidniggerfagbros...
It's all samefagging, right? Anons are not mentally deficient enough to fall for this literally every day? Right?
>>7982773This is the one I was doing.
>>7982776now be honest with me. give me like a score from 1 to 10. how close do you think you were at capturing the reference?as a side note try copying art you enjoy. just like anyone picking up guitar will learn a song he likes instead of trying to compose a song on his own
>>7982777like a 5 because the spine is completely fucked and not at the same angle.
>>7982775It has to be. No other board has such dedicated schizophrenics. This faggot has been at it for over a year. There's no way people haven't caught on by now.
>>7982779No, the actual reality is that I'm a guy struggling with drawing because of the issues that I've laid out multiple times and trying to dismiss me as a troll because you're tired of seeing my posts isn't doing you any good.
>>7982778yeah i think that's fair. so you need to put in more effort in the specific study not your overall output. every study doesn't have to be a 9 or a 10. aim for at least a 7. the time investment necessary to push further is not worth it
>>7982724>Do you want to change you're line art? Or do you mostly want to find a way to render that appeals to you?beggars can't be choosers man, either would be great lol. though changing my lineart I think would be way harder>In fact a good portion of these examples, even ones that are crossed off, are flats with some additional local colour changes or gradients for varietyI think that's because I gravitate more towards shape design when it comes to art I find appealing. I like expressive stufftangentially, something else I wanna share. I've noticed that a lot of artists I like are not bound to a particular brushset or style of rendering. some normally do cartoony cel shaded stuff, but occasionally flex with realistic painted portraits, or do a one-off with some weird brush. they'd make a good drawing on a piece of paper if they wanted to. that makes me feel kinda pathetic that I'm out here looking for the 'right' brushes, or that one style that would fit my linework. seems like there are more universal techniques and workflows that these people know>If you pick one of those examples that you'd like replicate, I can break it down for youI'm anxious since you've given me plenty of your time already. say, second row, third picture from the left. I'm looking at it now, and I can't seem to figure out where the light source is supposed to be. it's like the artist is being selective with the shadows he decides to paint>>7982730I see I see. the takeaway is that I should draw better. I will try. thinner brush size is debatable, any thinner and I won't be able to control my strokes at all. and it wouldn't change the amount of detail I draw. thanks for liking my art enough to bother giving me your time>>7982734my fav drawfag currently posting in this general. it's insane how well you handle such a narrow toolset
>>7982442tried
>>7982779actually every board has at least 1 dedicated schizo trollthis guy is just a lazy retard who has to reply to himself to trick non regular viewers since he effectively just spams the same rhetoric over and over again
>>7982298>unless you want her to look like Bogdanoff.Duly noted, I forgot about these guys lol. >>7982302>>7982350>GerudoI see the resemblance, yeah. Funnily enough, when I drew the white markings on her, I thought to myself "I wonder if people will think she's a rip-off of that one Star Wars alien." The one that Anakin's student was, idk star wars lore. >>7982656Thank you for the suggestions, I'll take note for sure. Your redline looks so good dude!
>>7982790i tried line first then box first then gesture, yet none looked the way i wanted
I tried coloring a previous drawing
>>7982754studies don't help, trust me, i've done a million studies and i'm still shit at creative drawing. draw from your head more
>>7982782Stop feeding the troll. Stop. Anons already went through this many times, just stop. He had basically his own thread in this board with bump limit reached.
>>7982820Anon, I've been at this for a year, and I'm still having trouble. How many more drawings do I have to do to convince you I'm not a troll?
Funny how it responded in first person, despite the anon replying to a ""different"" person.
Is this in the basic ballpark of correct?
>>7982829nopost the original ref
Another berserk study. Fighting for my life hatching and with the brush pen
>>7982830
I can’t draw backgrounds to save my life
>>7982833Btw does anyone know of any good tutorials for texturing with a brush pen or with those sakura pigma markers?
litol morpho study before bed. I actually liked the page about eyelids because it was shown what shapes they're built from and contour lines helped feel the form>>7982833good one mane
>>7982837Nigga tone that pantyhose texture down, it's a major eyesore.
>>7982829the eye level is obviously a pretty rough guess
>>7980630drew Sakura from street fighterthere's more to look at than in my previous post, however i think i stayed in my comfort zone in terms of poses here.
I'm living proof that "Just draw" is useless advice considering I've been trying for an entire year.
>>7982892You were warned a year ago this would be the outcome, too.
>>7982897No, actually. Everyone kept telling me to just "draw what I want and I'll get better. You don't have to grind fundamentals".
Trying to improve my composition and shading (failing somewhat)
>>7982783>some normally do cartoony cel shaded stuff, but occasionally flex with realistic painted portraits, or do a one-off with some weird brush. they'd make a good drawing on a piece of paper if they wanted toThis comes from academic styled training and just drawing. Chinese artist especially have a really good handle on fundamentals. Learning how to draw and refine a drawing to a high degree gives you options to do whatever you want. Copying the process in Bargue plates is some good training for your eye.For rendering there are conceptual layers to understand that make learning it easier. Base/Local colour, shadow, reflected light, occlusion, halftones, specular highlights. This occurs at the macro and micro scale. Texture would be an example of a micro scale where form principles occur, where as on the macro would be geometric forms receiving light.>second row, third pictureBest fit that I can give for a light source is to the left, and almost above her. The shapes that don't match that, I would consider artistic liberty and adding interest. It looks arbitrary, especially on the skirt. More the most part, the rendering is a multiply layer and then some paint over the bikini.Pic related would be an example of going in the direction of the target painting. It's the closest I'm getting in a single attempt. I think I could have gone with a thinner line. If you're worried about layer management, don't. The only thing that matters is that your line art stays on top except for when you want a specific thing above it that would get blocked by the line art. Anyway, the way to improve is to analyze how someone else does something, copy it and try to make sense of their process through reverse engineering, and then attempting to replicate it on a different reference or combination of references. Ask for feedback on what's missing to attain the specific result you're looking for.
I even tried following a tutorial and this is the best I could do. I don't know what I'm doing.
>>7982900your light direction is unclear, I assume it's top right but there are many places that suggest other light directionssimplify and clearly separate into areas of light and shadow and you'll get much better forms
>>7982892re "just draw" about one year ago someone here told me>you think you are improving, but you're notat the time it pushed me to draw more, and pic related was a year ago to the day. I think I spent 30 minutes on it, but I don't recall exactly.compare to>>7980735one year and nearly 200 sketches later>you think you are improving, but you're notit's hopeless, but I'm not ready to give up either
>>7982906stop replying to the hatkidcuck its all just baitalso youve made very obvious progress in that time even if it was incredibly slow
>>7982901Layers for this. I don't normally use multiply, don't like how it feels. I just use normal layers and paint everything directly. Sometimes I do all the lighting effect on 1 layer underneath the lines or just paint over top my sketch if I'm not doing line work.>>7982906200 is such a low number. Your lines did get better though.
>>7982907How come I can't make progress then?
>>7982878Thanks! Are you sure the pelvis is correct? It feels off to me. Like the box should be turned slightly more to the viewer.
>>7982914You have made progress but now you're more worried about posting here than drawing.
>>7982892Nigga maybe if you tried drawing SOMETHING ELSE. Besides, what is the issue with your drawing looks fine to me.
>he's still replying to himself
>>7982904LMFAO
Jfc can mods rangeban this faggot yet
>>7982887blog?
>>7982915I think the orientation is ok, maybe it just needs to be placed slightly lower to allow for a small gap between ribcage and pelvishere's what I was thinking in terms of structureit also depends on how you want to use the boxes later, either manipulating their forms or just using them as rough perspective guides to guide the sketch
>>7982909>>7982901This is a downgrade. It's uninspired and boring. A mundane hoe posing for a camera. You used to create such interesting art, but as soon as you started using reference you got worse.
>>7982929bad news anon, i would provide a link but i keep deleting my works from my computer. i could fetch some from the 'cord but i absolutely hate that site....but should i make an art blog? how would that even work?
>>7982936>open X account>upload art....Profit?
Memory drawing w/ weichun
>>7982934Who do you think I am?
>>7982929>>7982937OK, I have opened an X account. Thank you for the idea.https://x.com/pictochibi
>>7982934also you're sounding a lot like this nglhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/Dg2FLw8bQQU
i am about to spec into line illustration because i feel like it forces my hand to keep colors desaturated otherwise it looks immediately like shit
I bust my ass for you fags and this is how you pay me, fuck you all
>>7982951:(
ayo what he said?
back to comfort zone of study loop
>>7982957>didnt follow the reference' energy>arm proportions all over the place, it wasnt used for foreshortening reference either>the clothing yeah but why not change the posei dont get it.
>>7982951sorry peril>>7982934your grindset in demotivating scoobert is impressive
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>>7982968>didnt follow the reference' energywhats this new buzzword
>>7982934TRVKE
>>7982973Who is scoobert?
>>7982978my bad beeg geverybody stop using terms that concisively convey technical concepts immediately
I still don't know what these do
>>7982829No, and I also think you're going to have a hard time grasping the pelvis through a box. I think it's much simpler and more convenient to begin by seeing the whole body as a two-plane system. Take advantage of the fact that this reference is lit with mostly a single light source, so it's really easy to see that the body is much more cuboid than most people think.Jack Hamm and Bridgman have more examples of this approach.>>7982900Good job, but there's too much stuff in the illustration. The theme is clear, rape and pillage, but what's the focus? I think you can change it to a kind of medium long shot and focus on the characters. For storytelling, you can leave the ship on the right. You can still show the size difference while also showing the closeness better. The lighting is good enough, I don't think your target audience will be super anal about that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJGBTJT5wpM
>>7982990I love you so much Raxav. Please draw more whores.
>>7982991He's too wholesome tho..
>>7982940You should try drawing your shota fencer OC again to see how much you've improved since then.
>>7982994Nah that filthy slav is into piss and rape and loli and prostituion. Love the fucker tho.
>>7982997>pissUh proof please??
>>7982990extremely cute
>>7982968pyw retard
>>7982996You're right I should, it's been awhile. Love the dude smokin a fat one
>>7982996You should draw more loli sex and rape Torulene, that was pretty epic
Idk>>7982990So good
>>7983009Please flatten the eyelashes at the very least. It's a huge charm point you're missing from the ref.
>>7983012Ok>>7983011Yeah
>>7982996Are you here again to be an asshole to everyone less talented toru?
>>7983009You should live.
>>7983016Link to your drawing ITT so I can crush your balls with my surrealist automatism garbage bro
Any crit on why the perspective on the left looks off?
>>7983022Honestly the biggest issue is the one on the right where the left eye was shrunk down too much. The left one has cartoony charm to it; a bit of wonkiness sometimes helps with that.
>>7983017Yeah I’m too much of a pussy for all that. Gotta just keep drawing
>>7983024Draw porn and be happy. Enough with the bikinis, you're not fooling anyone.
>>7983025Maybe if I get better but I mostly like cute pictures
>>7983029When you come out of the closet as a porn artist we'll all celebrate.
>>7983022
>>7982900Your highest values and most of your chroma is in the bg, so my eye actually looked there first.
>>7982900eldar see humans as disgusting apes
>>7983030coomer groomer
>>7982900warhammer is so fucking gay
>>7983009mr pedophile you kinda just draw the 1 child over and over again with different hair and lack any key fixtures or details that make each drawing you do different from one another
>been staring at my drawing so much that it looks better when I flip it
>open twitter>see amazing art>23 yo artist>20 yo>17 yomfw 31 yo failed human beingmfw permaprebeglet
>>7983073depends on your goals, current skill level and which instructor/approach suits your personality better.
>>7982783thank you my idol
new thread where
>>7983022eye sockets and ear placement are huge indicators on how we perceive in what direction someones face is pointing towards/how it's angled. when you draw you create optical illusions so you need to make sure the major recognition points are understandable for the viewer
>>7983083e: idk why it kept the lasso tool selection and stamped a line in there
>>7982901>>7982909fuark you're good. thank you. if you'd indulge me for a little more, what logic do you go by when you pick places to put shadows/halftones in? like, looking at the ref, her cheekbone shadow, the highlights on her face, the shadow on the back of her right leg. why did you feel like those shouldn't carry over to the drawing? you airbruhsed her knee, what motivated you to air brush that spot and not her chest, for example>If you're worried about layer management, don'tsure, sure, haha... c-can you share the psd though, please...>>7983080god I really hope that you're just copying those portraits from refs, otherwise the mog would reach dangerous levels
I HATE NIGGERS SO MUCH
>>7983130Prove it
Drew a corpse knight.
>>7983147his pp is not covered up, so where is it?>>7983148cat in the box. so japanese
>>7983148I look like this and say this
>>7983172I was really confused until I read the numbers.
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i love you
>>7983193don't get lazy on the frillsespecially the lower ones, they make the silhouette more interesting
>>7983193The left one is AI. What are you doing man?
>>7983202what? how are you sure? you don't believe that someone could be that good?
>>7983203I could tell just by a glance man. It is AI-genned. Reverse image search it, if you don't trust my word. The results straight up confirm it's from a prompter account
>>7983203it has that hazy ai rendering on her eyes, pick a better ref my man
>>7983206okay, i believe, but geez not eveyone can apart authentic art from ai. i just found a cool pic and i wanted to practice drawing it>>7983200got it, i will next time
im a begim a schizo
Anyone know of any good resources on how to stylize faces? Like starting from a portrait? I can draw faces realistically and I can draw stylized faces but I always lose likeness when I try to translate a face to a style.
>>7983207>>7983206some a lot actually AI images are just as good if not better than high quality works done by artists, but you fags aren't ready to have that conversation.
I CANT DRAW. EVERYTHING IS FUCKING SHIT.
>>7983218Same here. But the people here just want to bring others down and bully them so it’s not worth being here any longer.
>>7983216You lack eyes and taste
Did a single one of you , or anons from the past, actually learned how to draw anime? Is it worth to even try as a guy whose eyes are open?
>>7983223This post has been translated by Yandex
>>7983223i think i have managed, the thing is that if you dont know how to compress the shapes of the head and neck into those 4 or 5 lines you will fail, sounds silly but either you are in the know or you are not
>>7983227You have or you think you have? cause every single time and without fail western "anime" looks like this shit.
It's crystal clear when the anime was made by them. Maybe it's perchance futile trying to replicate something like this albeit
>>7983230i liked her tutorials but really boring wannabe design
>>7983232>It's crystal clear when the anime was made by themlike this one? you know /ic/ will scream westerm shit if this was drawn by non asian people, but scream SOVL IF it was doneby asian niggas.
>>7983240i think that looks like a /beg/ (or a kid) drawing regardless of whomst might've perchanced made it
>>7983223You can find western artists on boorus and stuff who draw perfect anime, it’s not impossible
>>7983243 name one
>>7983050>>7983102pyw uncs, let's see some real geriatric art
>>7983230I hate pikat so much it's unreal
>>7983250why
>>7983252Because that whore owes me sex
>>7983250I'm indifferent towards pikat
>>7983208if you like the image study what you like from it, never forget what luddites did to my boy Oscar Rejlander.
>>7983230Not even western
>>7983203It is AI, but it is pretty good. Don't let the anons bully you out of the study. AI for anime has good anatomy and rendering these days and works very well for reference studies. Using AI to trace or create art is retarded, but as a reference and study, it can be even better than many courses out there.
a little still life study to redeem myself ^_^
>>7983259>AI wad of cash>AI mug>AI paperclipsIt's over...
>>7983258crab advice
>>7983230She isn't even western. She's Chinese and she says she's still learning and practicing art.
>>7983247There's an entire subculture of American freelance artists who literally do work for Japanese animation studios. There's even a guy who immigrated to Japan and made his own manga.
>>7983258The entire model is broken, hips are not connected correctly to the torso, the legs are not correctly placed on the hips. It's anatomically incorrectthe model is broken, most normalfags can't tell and that's the problem. You are shilling garbage and the worst part is that it's super rigid, AI lacks movement and action or cohesion, then again the thread challenges and references are turbo dogshit facebook tier so it's unironically an improvement for the average favela dweller.
>>7983270Nah, nice try. It is entirely correct anatomy, even more than many pro anime artists. I have a refined eye for weird-looking anatomy and anime style.However, don't let me stop your hate. I support the bullying of the pajeets, it is based.
>>7983203Zoom in on the eyes and glasses and it’s super obvious. A lot of AI isn’t even that obvious these days, but this one definitely is.
>>7983278The hip area that connects the legs is obviously broken.Left arm is extremely big.Torso is extremely big.not sure why you are doing this on the art board? should be an instant ban imo.
>>7983219Sorry you’re art is shit bro we’re just being honest.
>>7983278he's right, try drawing the pelvis-leg connection underneathit doesn't work
>>7983287your*Retard.
>>7983293newfag
>>7983285I have been here longer than you, appreciating art. The same shit was said about 3D models as well. Even action figures. It is just retarded. Put the red line where your mouth is.
Hat kid GOD designs his own lovingly hand-crafted figures from SCRATCH. AI BTFO.
>>7983296>no punctuation>"bro">calls anons newfagsThis is hilarious.
>>7983299that's grim, you've been here for so long and can't even tell when a model is broken?
>>7983230I want to fuck pikat
>>7983259>redeemOf all the words to use, you choose this...
>>7983193Grimley
anyone here tried the sinix event thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74sClr5bhYseems interesting
>>7983315>be me>borderline retarded>never read>stumbled on this one word on the Internet on a video about online scammers>from then on, this word had negative connotations for me>one day, browse /ic/ (I don't draw)>see someone use this word>literally cannot comprehend a legitimate, regular use of the word >immediately sperg out, implying that anon is indian (fucking subhumans hehe)How was your day, anons?
If you’re a beg you should KYS if you use ai you should KYS if you can’t take criticism you should KYS if you KYS you’re dead
>>7983331lol you got really butt hurt by that huh fsggot Kya
>>7983331I was just joking around, given that he used AI ref and then started talking about some redeeming right after. Like cmon man, that is pretty funny situational comedy there
>>7983340>I was just joking aroundSo am I, anon
Working on a clicker piece
>>7983314What do you think she smells like?
>>7983260>>7983315Lol
>>7983351based
>>7983357I don't like the way it is looking at me
>>7983351>gemini detected hidden synth ID watermarks on these photos
>>7983362Are you kidding me? -_-
This image that I generated with AI.... is AI generated? How could this be happening to me?
>>7982900I would say make the silhouette of the ship blend more into the background.>>7982990sexy
so how are you teaching yourself? like methods
i am making a new thread
>>7983270>most normalfags can't tell and that's the problemAnd this is the only thing that matters, those are your customers. There's a tolerance for "correctness," which is why Loomis is acceptable even though his zygomatic structure is flawed for example. Believability > realism. Besides that, the image looks fine.
>>7983392i don't draw to have costumers
mech walker
i can't with hands
>>7983407sex
>>7983390You disgust me.
>>7982023face and neck could be improved.but I chime in because I really disagree with >>7982034I took that advice myself and now my first 500 drawings are monochrome only. You don't want your sketchbook to be lifeless. If you're unhappy with your current painting, keep it simple (base colors/cell shading) but KEEP COLOURING.
>>7983390This has not been approved by the discord clique.
I was promised a new thread 3,000 years ago.
new thread doko
>page 7>not at image limitno new thread
>>7983471>page 7>is actually page 8
>>7983471What, do you want us to post more of our art or something? Why are you such a fucking asshole piece of shit?
>>7982852thank god I'm done with the ugly heads chapter, it almost made me drop the book. now onto drawing ugly morpho figs
>>7983481Why not draw from someone you admire?You don't have to force yourself to study morpho, especially if it's not the kind of drawing you want to replicate.
>>7983477>fucking asshole piece of shitDo not redeem sir
>>7983487I've seen several people say that 'simplified forms' are a good basis for construction regardless of style. besides, I have a problem with picking stuff up and dropping it immediately, so it's a challenge for myself to go through the whole bookI can't say studying morpho didn't teach me anything, I skimmed through it before, and it helped me understand male obliques a little better. the drawings are ugly though not gonna lie haha, and I feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot trying to copy trad sketches in digital
>>7983492My biggest issue with morpho is the author using different head and body styles. Which is annoying when you're trying to learn proportions and go from Caucasian head to Asian and African.
What is the /nodraw/ excuse of the day?
seriously how do you study? book?
>>7983494I was told my art is terrible.
>>7983494Drawing causes AIDS
>>7983494I have inappropriate thoughts about Hat Kid.
>>7983494there isn't a new thread
>>7983494i got my game controller to work again
>>7983494Mostly failing and going back to the books. I need to stop trying weird angles and just do what every other twitter user does.
>>7983508no fucking way, you're actually making your figs less angular. I thought I'd never see the day
>>7983494i spent like 4-5 hours drawing today trying to figure out values and now my head hurts
>>7983510Nah, they're still going to be angular.
>>7983508>just do what every other twitter user does.Trace AI, photobash or copy references?
>>7983515Nobody photobashes anymore. No point when grok can edit images for you.
>>7983514fuark, do you yourself not see how the left fig is pro level appealkino?also, aren't you overestimating the distance between ribcage and pelvis a little? your torsos always end up looking elongated, but maybe it's just me
>>7983518Owlcat, GamesWorkshop, cdpr, most EU Studios. Bash, Paint, Repeat. The type of retard studio that keeps the "art" alive by hiring and keeping a bunch of blue haired nepo babbies and chinese photobashers to fight against AI. Then again Euros have always been lazy faggots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt7C8VrHnk
>>7983526fuck is the concept art/splash art industry that grim?
>>7983533Can you really blame wagie-tier artists for slacking off at their gay corpo job? It's not like they maintain much creative control anyway, may as well cut corners and collect your paycheque.
>>7983089I'm glad you asked. In the ref, there's multiple light sources, so the shadows get harder to identify. I'll explain as much as I can in https://files.catbox.moe/ebo5uh.png as I don't have the space here.>what logic do you go by when you...Most of the time it's literal. Although, In the bottom right of the jacket, that's definitely in light and halftone, but I made it part of my shadow shapes by thinking about which side of that plane is turning a way from the light. It's taking what's there already and manipulating further or closer to what it already is. Zooming out and squinting helps a lot with this merging or simplification.>like, looking at the ref, her cheekbone...Some of those decisions is because of the style from the target drawing. Some of them are for interest, if everything in the drawing has the same type of edge, it gets a little boring, the knee and hair gradient being good examples. Reason I didn't include the cheek is because I felt it made the face too complicated. The cheek is not in shadow, that's definitely halftone. The style doesn't really have any halftones, so I excluded them. similarly, for the highlights felt that it would be too much. Reason I added them to the chest is because there's only so much going on there. They make up practically half it, so leaving them out would make it look empty. For the leg, while I can say there's halftones on the side of it, they look dark. Making the whole leg shadow cuts work down and makes for a more interesting decision that fits the style. Anytime you can make a simple but cool decision, you should probably take it.let me know if this helped or if there's anything you're confused about. Especially in the catbox file. It only covers so much.>c-can you share the psd though, please...I literally got rid of it after I was done. I'm sorry. I don't tend to keep psd's. Next time, I'll drop one.
>>7983533>concept art/splash art industryWhat concept art/ splash art industry? Can't remember the last time i've seen art in a loading screen, LoL perchance?, it's all renders now.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
hrello new thread when
>>7983538>https://files.catbox.moe/ebo5uh.pngdid you really write that all up, you didn't have this guide lying around at hand? jesus, I can't thank you enough. gonna do some fig studies, that's the only way to know if I understood the advice or not. it's greatly appreciated regardless.could I add you on discord or anything? not that I intend to take anything outside /ic/ or kvetch for more help, just'd be nice to have a point of contact. not pushing!
>>7981173Didn't know Peril was this based
>>7982276Art
>>7983526lmao. there's something real fuckin off with this pic. like how everything looks so clean and sterile and disconnected. like they're some action figures some kid just placed randomly.like there's some obvious attempt at the fundamentals like the two figures being the obvious center of attention but it's too focused.
>>7983526Owlcat used AI
>>7983407are these shadows supposed to be darker than the nearby ones?
>>7983580where is the unironic evidence
>>7983580>It's realI mean yeah, they've always been a shitty company that copy pasted old games so it makes sense that they are also stealing art now. Not like the photobashing and digital painting was any better.Wish the average joe knew better but it's impossible people are sheep IE: E33.
>>7983560no
>>7983589:(
So I just checked with discord and they said no new thread until 300 images. Sorry.
>>7983573No this is definitely low /beg/
Just checked with reddit and they said we should link Draw-a-Box in the OP.
tired of being a studycel so I'm back to working on a piecestill playing with ideas for the bg
>>7983604Face is cute and the pose is nice. The body seems too thin and the hips don't seem to be connected properly to the body.I dunno if I'd go for such an extreme Dutch angle like that for a pose where the character is passive and smiling gently at the camera. Usually extreme Dutch angles are used to build a feeling of unease or tension and they're also used to make low and high angles look cooler or more intimidating. A more subtle angle would probably be better, although it's hard to say since you don't know what you're really going for either.
>>7983563Yeah, it took some time. Into the rest of the pile it goes. My discord is macenroe. Feel free to ask for any technical questions or advice.
Halfway through this one I realized it was the worst work I've produced so far and got super frustrated with it. I'm glad I sat through it to the end at least. Thank you to the kind anon who helped with the anatomy, I think I was able to make a few improvements to it (although the way the rendering in shadow failed is one of my biggest frustrations here).There aren't any characters I want to draw birthday art of for a few months so I can finally do some proper studies. (Or maybe I want to retry this one...)
I am starting to feel that learning through videos is WAAAY slower/less efficient than pdf/books/images. At least for full courses. I am not sure if I will keep with them in the future after I finish the current batch.
How do you guys shade anime/stylized faces?
What happens if this thread archives before we hit the image limit? Should I prepare by accepting the lord Jesus Christ into my heart?
Trying to imitate cel shading. Don't get fooled. This might look really cool with the shadows only, but it looks like shit when base colors are shown together with it. So shit in fact that I'm not even gonna post it.
I slacked for a bit, but I was recommended to try 3x3 grids now so I did this one
>>7983647You should look up how other artists render muscle girls.
>>7983673I don't know too many yet. I'll study some of this guy's stuff though, thanks for sharing.
Watch me post this 3 seconds before the new thread
>>7983685I wish I had talent
random mechanical stuff from today
>>7983686took you like 30 minutes anyway
>>7983693are you freehanding the perspective? the robot knight guy on the left looks odd, bottommost also
I wish i was a little bit tallerI wish i was a baller
>>7983696yes its freehanded
does anyone know of a video or can please guide me on how to paint those kind of highlights in this picture? I mean being able to replicate oily / shiny surfaces, specifically skin, I can't do the dots and those very "organic" shapes with round brush
>>7981156very cool art>>7981449glad to see you have improved
>>7983721Thank you!
uvogin>>7983667vacant expression>>7983573 saved>>7983494wokeup too late
>>7982901a lot of the lighting here is kinda wrong imomore of the bottom of that front front thigh is clearly in shadow like a crylinder for examplethe far knee to upper seems to bend inwards too much
warm up>>7983685honey?>>7983383wow looking good anon, keep going now each soldier is much more interesting to observe I like it.
Drawing ougi oshino sex idc anymore
>>7983753Thank you, pxg.
>>7983755Won’t post it here because of #them
>>7982829>>7982834this is my best guess
Tonights work.Tried to do some rending too. Any crit anons? Especially my render bros?Also >>7983693this is elite anon. Love this.
Self portrait>>7983775I like the style but work on learning the rules before breaking them. Brush up on anatomy especially the skull. Values look good but darker darks are necessary and the light source doesn’t always make sense like it’s coming from the left on her face but from the right on her neck
>>7983751>honey?OC, the resemblance is completely by accident
>>7983693Very nice
50 minutes turd>15 minutes draft>10 minutes drawing (deleted)>10 minutes drawing (2nd try)>15 minutes correcting mistakes
>>798379550 minutes is barely that much time. stop crying
>>7983798I never implied that
how do you stop from getting hand cramps while drawing for long periods? was working on these for about 3 hours while taking breaks but by the end my hand could barely hold the pencil, i stretch before hand and after.
after 3 years of perma pre begging i learned about lasso tool, i didn't even know that my freehand selection tool is actually the lasso tool and it can also be used to shade or put gradients...
>>7983804that's pretty basic. go through ctrl+paint, you're probably missing lots of other things.
7 images left, use them wisely..
>>7983800I've had the same problem, what I found helped was doing some warm up lines, curves, and circles while focusing on holding my pencil as lightly as possible and using my whole arm to draw. I also try to check myself occasionally while drawing to make sure I'm not gripping too tightly because it can happen automatically
>>7983584no it's just an error from me
>>7983795You need talent.
Fine i ll make a thread
>>7983805i still need to learnd fundies...what's the point of digital toys if i don't master fundies!!!
>>7983824it's the digital fundies
Haven't drawn in 2 days, I already feel myself regressing.
vidyas here i come
Idk what happened to the line quality >>7983833Very imamura-coded
move>>7983838>>7983838>>7983838
>>7983839Fake, it hasn't hit 300 yet
>>7983823Found the imposter!
We need to hit the image limit so we can get a REAL next thread!
>>7983753she's 14
>>7984137She and (even he) is a mirror reflection of araragi koyomi, meaning she is not real in real life and even in the fictional setting she isn't actually real.
>>7984142akchually she's 900 years oldpdf cope
>>798414616 is the legal age in majority of the world btw. Your grandparents would most likely be considered pdfs by today's standards.
>>7984148>mfw my grandfather married my grandma when he was 21 and she was 15 and no one said anything
likin this joint
