In which one of these three most successful post-commie shitholes would you prefer to live?
>>200118633slovenia I am probably going to move there when i finish my university
anything that isn't estonia because i don't want to die from boredom
>>200118684what's so boring about eesti?
>>200118633I wouldn't hate living in any of these countries. I would prefer Slovenia or Czechem somewhere that has some mountains I could hike in.
>>200118633Is it even a question? Slovenia is the only one to combine typical firstie features with pleasant climate. Also unlike the two other ones, it has very diverse landscape (most importantly - both best sea in Europe and best mountains in Europe). You'd have to be insane to ever think about anything else but Slovenia.
>>200118713they probably think paying taxes every year is the most fun
>>200118633estonia
>>200118684so sad 300k Estonian Russians don't think like that too...
>>200118633Well if i had to choose. slovenia or cz tbf. >>200118860>erm just leave Coal take and you know it.
>>200118633Slovenia is imo the most underrated country in Europe. They have literally everything, it's like north Italy and Austria combined in one little country, everything is well kept and looks more firstie than most actual firstie countries, but most people think it's just yet another gray eastern european Balkan shithole with ugly commieblocks and rabid stray dogs running around them. I feel really sorry for them because no matter what they'd do, the general perception of their country abroad won't change soon.
>>200118633Not estonia for sure, too many russians there
>>200118966>the general perception of their country abroad won't change soon.good, they shouldnt let westerners ruin it
>>200118997they live in their Russian containment zones like Lansnamae or Narva. You can actually live in Estonia and never see a Russian in your life (like in Sareemaa)
>>200119025nah, it's nice if other people have good stereotypes about your country. Croatia profits from it a lot by being a tourist paradise.
>>200118633stop caring about usthanks
>>200119075sorry, i can't, i worship Czechia
>>200118633Poland is already a better place to live than Pepikland and the gap will grow.
>>200119060i hate tourists
>>200119128lmao, you have no idea of what you're sayingwe pump huge money and effort into positive PR but it's just a facade, behind it Poland is still a regular eastern European country that stands nowhere close to Czechia, you cannot just erase centuries-long civilizational gap in like a decade or so>>200119143you live from them tho
>>200118633The only Estonian woman I've ever met had giant tits, so probably there.
Estonia is cool but i think it's overrated a bit, especially that Lithuania which has made bigger progress is kinda overlooked.
>>200118633I work for Estonia bc I like to watch Mateo and Lisanna. She was an Estonian whore he hired and they fell in love.
>>200119158>you live from them thothats because tourism ruined our industry
>>200119158When I drive to Poland to beg local gas station owners for some gasoline it looks just fine.In all seriousness though - you're doing quite well, wages are already on the same level for example.
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>>200119213>yes, I would rather stand 12 hours per day (or night) by the assembly line and perform the same hard and tedious activity rather than just clean a room once per week and then sleep all day long I really don't get that "muh tourism replaced industry" narrative since tourism is infinitely better than the industry Croatia had before. No Croat would prefer working night shifts in a communist factory rather than just live off tourism if it was real choice. And if Croats think that if they got rid of tourism, they'd magically attract valuable jobs that pay a lot for little effort, that all of Sillicon Valey would suddenly move to Dubrovnik, you're naive as fuck. Don't be stupid.
>>200119213>cries as he charges you 17 000€ for a small beer
>>200119249>wages are already on the same level for example.so what, just because some economic indicators are similar in one year cannot make up for centuries of us being divided by a civilizational wall, so Czechs managed to accumulate insane capital (as reflected in Prague's old town for example) they can now benefit from and we cannot. Why do you think the richest Czech guy (10 million nation) is richer than the richest Pole (40 million nation)? Because one-year salary is one think but accumulated wealth is another thing.
>>200119362The point was that you're growing while we're stagnating.
>>200119298do you really think that everyone in croatia earns money from tourism? i work in a warehouse for 900€ lol, if we had a developed industry maybe it would be worth living here. it is only worth living here if you rent apartments to touristoids every summer
>>200119271incredible
>>200119394just like Malawi is growing and Japan stagnating but it doesn't make the former better than the latter. We're still a far cry from Czechia's living standards, aesthetics standards and so on.>>200119436>do you really think that everyone in croatia earns money from tourismthose who don't do this directly, do this indirectly, because they produce goods and services those employed in tourism buy from you> i work in a warehouse for 900€ lolif not for tourism, you wouldn't have this warehouse at all or it would pay 400eur, like in Serbia, think about it
>>200118633Czech. Cute bohemian girls and cool history. Also absinthe.
>>200119467I pray for the demise of this tourist resort banana republic every day.
>>200119467>We're still a far cry from Czechia's living standards, aesthetics standards and so on.Don't exaggerate. Czechia is only slightly doing better than us. Other than that, they're a corrupted German colony just like us. You will find there as much Lidls as here.
>>200119532Finally a self-respecting Pole.
>>200119506>dude I want my country to be like Serbia!!!why are self-hating Croats like this? Seriously, why do you imagine that if tourism disappears then suddenly Elon will build 10 robotized Tesla factories in Croatia and Croats will just manage the whole process by pressing one button per hour like Jetson and get 10k EUR/month for that?
>>200118633Probably Czechia. If I have to move somewhere I'd rather be in a warmer country. Slovenia is probably getting a bit too warm though so Czechia would seem the better option.
>>200118633Estonia because I can live in Tallinn without speaking their ooga booga and get away with it.
>>200119532>slightly doing better than usonce again, that's just because the current decade is exceptional but in the whole historical process they've been always much more developed than us and it's reflected in their infrastructure, mentality, level of maintenance and everything. You can just compare Polish and Czech villages and towns on both sides of the border, especially somewhere around Kłodzko valley. It's like comparing Russia to Finland.
>>200118633CZ because Ive met hot women from there and I would marry one instantly if I could
>>200119615That's a good take actually.
>>200119580Losers here are just like that, they would like to see everthing burn because they are too incompetent or lazy to make their lives better.They blame everything for their status: goverment (partially true), tourism (quite insane as you put it), old people, etc, It's always something else but them.
>>200119467i suggest you do a trip to czechia, you will be shocked how much of an expensive shithole we are, poland is moving forward fast, we are just rolling in shit
>>200119697I don't blame Croats for that since as we can say many other tourism-oriented nations like Spaniards also fall for this insane narrative that somehow if you get rid of tourism then your country will magically turn into a hi-tech Wakanda which literally never happens and tourism and modern industry can develop separately from each other and one doesn't affect the other - Italy and France are the best example of that. Just because Croatia doesn't have developed industry doesn't have anything to do with it being a tourist paradise. The question just can be about wrong allocation of resources by the government - why taxes paid by the tourist industry aren't spent on preparing industrial fields in other parts of Croatia to attract foreign investors for example. But again - that's government's mismanaged, not something inherently tied to developed tourist industry.
>>200119798literally rolling, kek
>>200119798>how much of an expensive shithole we are,so what lol, if you're expensive that means people want to invest in your countryand Czechia simply looks good and looking good must be expensive, there is nothing to be proud of being cheap because it means your country looks shit
>>200118633>most successful post-commie shitholesthat's like winning the Paralympics I'd rather kms than move to an eastern shithole
>>200118633Slovenia I guess thanks to the minimal Adriatic coast and proximity to Italy and Croatia.
>>200119952nigga we dont look good, everyone is s negative fuck, our public transport is ugly and full of junkies,streets full of smelly hobos, roads are falling apart because of mafians being corrupt retards tunnelling as much as they can, wages are stagnating and we are still on eastern levels with western prices, majority cant afford anything beyond rent and food
>>200118633i'd say bohemia but I dont know much about them other than the capital looking nice, same for the other two i guess.i think the countryside of bohemia and slovenia looks better, so one the two.>>200119854>The question just can be about wrong allocation of resources by the government - why taxes paid by the tourist industry aren't spent on preparing industrial fields in other parts of Croatia to attract foreign investors for example.that's it. but people will associate their country deindustrialization with the growing of others sectors, that's the government fault, although i saw some portuguese and spanish anons associating it with the EU.
>>200120070>our public transport is ugly haha dude, the thing is that you actually have public transport. Here it's non-existent outside big cities. If you live in a 20k town without a railway line (and unlike Czechia, here it's normal, even 100k cities don't have a railway station here because of how underdeveloped this country was in 19th century) you're completely fucked without a car, as public buses almost don't exist here anymore.
Insult Estonia again and I'll fuck you up
estonia since I can swim back home
>>200120491Estonians are slow pipo.
>>200118836There are no big cities in Slovenia though, so Czechia/Prague is the only valid answer
Estonia seems the logical answer
>>200120432>in a 20k townNigga walk. The 20k town is like 1km in radius.
>>200118665disgusting. they dont want you there cefur>>200119025instead they have thousands of cefurs (serbs, bosnians, croats, albanians) to ruin it
>>200120581why would you want to live in a big city tho
>>200120640>disgusting. they dont want you there cefurim not a čefur, im kajkavian they will accept me as their own
>>200120491Estonians are LAZY DRUNKARDS and they are inferior to Finns EVERY WAY
Half my family came from Bohemia. My relatives who stayed were either killed or deported by lazy slavs who wanted to steal German property.I would kill myself at the airport if I was forced to pick a slave nation that hates my kind.
>>200120683>im not a čefur, im kajkavian they will accept me as their ownlmaooo cope and go back to plebbit
>>200120639my point isn't about inner public transport but that connects you to other places. If you live in a 20k town here and you want to reach a 100k town 30 km from that - in most cases there is no other option than a private car (unless you live in western Poland where they have dense railway network and public train service somehow works better here than bus service). In my home town (10k) the situation looks like that so the nearest train station is located in a town 10km from my town, and to reach this train station if you don't have a car, the only option is to get a taxi because there is not a single bus, and that 10km taxi drive costs more than a train ticket from that train station to Warsaw (150+km). And then people ask why small towns here keep depopulating lmao.
>>200120683bro, we say dobrodošel and doči is not even a verb in the Slovenian dictionary, I saw all those germanophiles have no leg to stand on! Also, nasvidenje, there's no such as a svideti in Slovene!
*I say
>>200120642Lots of jobs, lots of girls, lots of culture
>>200120741kys>>200120776razmem ja vse
>>200120776please tell him the truththese delusional crorat soyboys think you zlovenians view them as equals, instead of as cefurs. These Možemo voters need a hard reality check.just look at this fag >>200120833
>>200120833Well if you really wanna be Slovene then you gotta drop the personal pronoun. Also, the passive voice, both of those are frowned upon. And you also have to drop half your vowels and replace them with 'uh's.
>>200120858No, he's right, no Slovene has ever thought of a Kajkavian as a čefur.
>>200120911He is probably from Zagreb (and a Možemo voter). It's debatable how much "Kajkavian" is left there.
>>200120981ja sam z varazdina debil glupi
>>200121019you're still a cefur
>>200121048why did you get so angry when i said i was leaving this shithole?
>>200121019>>200121048funny how Croat-Slovene relations are the same like Polish-Czech (we worship them, they despise us)
>>200120771good point
>>200121019https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Gz5sdV1FI>>200121048Imagine calling a person whose surname is literally Hribar or Dolenc a čefur lmao
Also, I'm not some Nazi, since I've delved into Slovenian racism...my surname is a germanized Serbian one
>>200119030i wish this was true
>>200119158I regularly drive through Poland, about 100km. Roads? Better than in Czechia.Small villages? Full of life, in contrast to Czechia.LTE/5G coverage, OK. Houses? In very decent condition.
>>200120882essentially, drop civilized, superior speech patterns in favor of that of impaired peasants?
>>200121404that's because you visit Cieszyn Silesia which looks a bit bettervisit Lower Silesia - Kłodzko Valley, Wałbrzych, Głuchołazy and you will be shocked
>>200121470>Kłodzko ValleyBeen there last week, Czech side looks worse.
>>200121468https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuXcBP98Cz4
>>200121470>GłuchołazyAnd this town is part of my road, I prefer to go to the Rychleby Mountains via Poland rather than Czechia.
>>200118633Czechia is overrated, Estonia is very overrated (grim and full of russians) and Slovenia is only somewhat overrated (it really is beautiful).So definitely Slovenia, only a retard would choose anything else.
>>200118633Estonia, its already very common for finns to move there to start a business since enviroment is more supporting for that also saaremaa is attracting people to buy summer houses from there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ0Pja0_Jls
>>200118836On point.>>200118966>but most people think it's just yet another gray eastern european Balkan shithole with ugly commieblocks and rabid stray dogs running around them. I feel really sorry for them because no matter what they'd do, the general perception of their country abroad won't change soon.And it's a good thing. Anti-PR is great for gatekeeping, and gatekeeping is very needed nowadays on many, many levels.
>>200118633Slovakia
