>go visit basically anyone>get borderline bullied for not accepting any food
>>200253127I lost all respect for nordics
Do people serve food because they want to be nice, or because they feel like it would be rude not to serve food?
vgh the freezing nórdico winters
>>200253127why are germanics so soulless?
>>200255316>Do people serve food because they want to be nice, or because they feel like it would be rude not to serve food?Probably the latter, at least in South-Eastern europe. It's apparently considered impolite for guests to eat anything more than a handful of what the host offers to them.
>>200255316both
>>200255415our favstian spirit...
>>200253127how come brown people are so much more friendly than white people?
>>200253127Source: my ass
>>200255722trust me bro
>>200255316food is very unexpensive, why wouldnt you want to share? in fact i enjoy inviting guests to eatare scandis autistic ?
>>200253127we usually serve food only to serve vodka later
>>200253127Light green is the correct option.>>200254674>>200255349>>200255415>>200255722In my experience with the previous 500 threads that map was brought up, the main misunderstanding was that meds assumed that "guest" means someone you specifically invite to your home at an appointed time and it is customary to have a meal with them (lunch, tea or dinner). On the other hand, Nords assumed that "guest" means a random acquaintance showing up unannounced at your home just to chat for a bit.
>>200255571In some places it's customary to leave food on the plate to indicate that you're full, they think you're still hungry if you finish the plate, and they'll feel ashamed
>30% income tax to organize systems meant to eliminate all human sufferingVS >your mom serving stew and rice to the electrician and you autofellating yourself over it
>>200255827>food is very unexpensivelol>why wouldnt you want to share?There's no guarantee there's any food just laying around in the first place. If someone's coming over to drink, everyone's eaten already, or on the other hand you might not have not even cooked yet and nobody's gonna start just cooking food when they have guests. I don't know how it goes elsewhere, do people just have warm meals sitting around
>>200255854That's probably it. I don't think it's very common to just invite people over for dinner. If you go to someone's place, it probably involves drinking, not eating
>>200255949Takes 5 minutes to server and heat up some rice or pasta on the microwave, or to make fried eggsOf course if someone comes out of the blue its harder but you'd still invite them to whatever is available, thats just common sense
>>200256080If someone started making me rice or eggs I'd just be like what the fuck are you doing. People eat when they're hungry, you'll most likely have eaten before you go to someone's place, there's no need to just start giving me eggs so that you don't feel awkward
>>200253127This is such a retarded thing. There's no source so most likely this is completely made up. Also, the entire setting is completely ambiguous. "Guest" doesn't tell you what kind of guest it is and what the purpose of their visit is, were they invited or not, how long will they stay? "Food" also isn't defined and means different things in different cultures. In Finnish if you ask for food you are asking for a meal. Eating a cookie or a couple of nuts or something does not count as food. Those are snacks.
>>200256172well then i'd just pull out the Fuet sausage or the jamon serrano and give them something to snack on
>>200255857it's like that in Korea
>>200255942A random electrician showing up to do some work and then leave is not a "guest".>>200256006>I don't think it's very common to just invite people over for dinner. If you go to someone's place, it probably involves drinking, not eatingPretty weird. Sharing a meal is usually the excuse to invite someone here. Obviously you do more than just eat and stay after the meal is over. That's where the tradition of inviting guests to eat joins up with the tradition of having coffee after a meal. Your guest arrives, you serve some appetizers and talk, then serve the main meal, then dessert and then ask them if they want coffee.The guest usually brings some nice wine and/or dessert (ice cream or cake).I really don't know if this is a unique Argie thing but pairing ice cream with coffee is super common here. And I don't mean coffee flavoured ice cream, but rather eating regular ice cream while drinking hot coffee. Most traditional ice cream parlours serve coffee too.>>200255949> I don't know how it goes elsewhere, do people just have warm meals sitting aroundIt is traditional to get together with family once a week to have lunch and catch up while eating meat (asado) or pasta.
>>200256372>be taught to finish your meal>go to Korea>finish the meal>they're like oh man this is shameful>they bring me more food>I'm like oh man I don't want to be rude>I finish it again>they bring me more food>I keep eating
>>200256443Well that's pretty different then>do you give food to guests when you invite them to eat>yes
>>200256471I finally know how the hyperwar started!
>>200256573The lore...
>>200253127Anglo-American here. If you don't serve food to guests you're a stingy piece of shit, which isn't surprising considering the map. Though on the other extreme you have countries where they basically force feed you like in most of the Middle East and the Mediterranean. Light green is the most sane place to be.
>>200256673>If you don't serve food to guests you're a stingy piece of shitSo basically they get served food so that they don't think you're a dick for not giving them free food
>>200256443>Sharing a meal is usually the excuse to invite someone hereThis is the thing I don't understand about you people. Why do you need an excuse to invite someone over? Why do you need to beat around the bush? Isn't the whole point that you want to spend time with the person? If you do, then you can just invite them to spend time with you. You don't need any excuses.
>>200256673>>200256732Actually that sounds a lot like that mandatory tipping thing. First a tip was like>I'm really happy with the service, I'll leave them something extraAnd now it's>hey dickhead give me free stuff or I'll spit in your foodIt's when something goes from a gesture of hospitality to something that's basically mandatory that the whole thing becomes kinda pointless
>>200255854>>200253127Here I think it's not so common actually. In my generation you just go to someone for chit-chat a bit or something we mostly don't do that. But with older people if you come even unexpectedly and for short time and when it is someone close friend/relative, then they will offer you something. Like chocolate, candies, fruits, to drink a tea, something simple and fast mostly, like a snack.
>>200256471sounds like a Spongebob episode
>>200253522You need to eat otherwise you're saying that you're a potential murderer
>>200253127I notice the orange/red countries seem to make terrible friends. No loyalty, will never do you a favor, etc.
>>200253127people in northern france are the opposite of this soulless the map is wrong
>>200256732>>200257050You Nordics are just like the Ukrainians/Russians who come here and never say please or thank you because HURR YOU DONT REALLY MEAN IT OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE IS AS MISERABLE AND RUDE AS US ON THE INSIDE, WE ARE JUST MORE HONEST
>>200256673Do people just bring out a random lasagna or whatever every time you have a guest over? Is it rude to decline? I mean most of the time I just want to play a few rounds of Tekken and drink some beer or whatever, not eat your microwaved lasagna.
>>200258334nah the word "please" thrown casually in the sentence just doesnt come out in our language and that affects our thinking. We do say thank you but not in every single sentence.say I go to a kebab place. I will say thank you when the food comes, I will say thank you when I leave. I dont say "please" when I order
its simple processif there is actually a dinner agreed upon, then there will be foodif there is not and its just some random visit or something small then it might as well be coffeewhen you are a kid the parents always feed their kids unless they are staying overthis is how it works here. Its just different rules and doing the opposite isnt more "polite" but breaking the agreed upon rules here.
>>200254674you will not touch our food you fat fuck
>>200258663You definitely believe in the whole "oh Americans smile all the time so it must mean they are fake because in northern europe we dont do that" while ignoring that Latinos/Caribbeans are the same as Americans in this regard
>>200258761I think it's close to this here.But it doesn't work with grandma. If you told her you will pay a visit, she will definitely cook something for you. But if you don't want to eat she'll just pack the meal so you could take it with you back home.
Kek, this map is just>hmm I think these parts of Spain and Italy have been preserved from Mahometan blood>hmm I think these parts of France and Germany have much more Germanic blood
>>200253127You serve food only if you specifically agreed to invite someone over for dinner, otherwise all you're going to get is a glass of water or a beer.
>>200255827>are scandis autistic ?yes
>>200258887its all the same in less Nordic countries that most emotions are fake and things you say dont actually mean anything. Here its a rough barrier but once you get past that its all real
>>200258901yes grandma is the one who wont stop giving you food that you dont want. Especially Eastern Finnish grandmas are like this.
>>200259050Bullshit cope lol, you guys have terrible family structures, and are known to be one of the most lonely and depressed countries despite being rich and homogenous.
>>200258761Yeah, I wonder if there's just some obvious miscommunication I'm missing. Like if someone pops over for a chat and some coffee, but it's not like you are expected to spend 6 hours slow roasting a brisket in the backyard like you would at a dinner party, and it would be considered kind of strange and rude to unprompted start offloading a bunch of leftovers on them unless you are really close.
>>200255827>food is very unexpensiveyou forget that they literally live in a lifeless wasteland of rock and ice
>>200259258what do you mean by terrible family structures?
>>200259288Finland has 80% food self-suffiency rate though, is Italy that high? I think Nordics are pretty optiomal places to farm in fact and only getting better. Its not too hot and the fact that there is an actual winter brings you a full reset.sure tomatoes, rice or the wheat that you make most pastas with doesnt grow here but besides that we arent really missing anything.
>>200253127No wonder those guys are an heroing by the hundreds.
>>200259260its just weird default thinking in this casethough we do have a bit of stingy thinking in terms of things. Sharing the bill when feasting is a lot more common here. Netherlands is the most extreme and I've seen foreigners get weirded out with that
>>200259425our population density is like ten times yours. but no our food self sufficiency is a bit lower
>>200259536Dutch have the "tikkie" thing. Its kinda like mobilepay or similar used in the Nordics but it seems there is a way to "tik" someone for an amount to remind them to pay up for something
>>200254674in america you have to tip your friends mum
Here the guest will get food, but will be expected to provide the booze (beer or wine), and the dessert. If the guests is wealthier than the hosts, they will be expected to contribute even more, providing the ingredients for the meal, while the host prepares the food.
This probably applies mostly to kids visiting other families. Like if you were at your friends house at 14:00-15:00 they would obviously tell you to have lunch with them. I remember my mom nagging me whenever I brought a friend over and she didnt have food to offer so she would cook something quick to give us. As an adult, I dont really expect my friends to cook for me if I show up, but it's not like anyone decides to randomly visit their friend at lunchtime.
>>200258807Nigga ain’t nobody want any of that nasty ass fermented shark if you offered that shit to me I’d punch you in the goddamn mouth
nordcels aren’t europeans
>>200253127Northern Europe has a history of food shortages due to climate, so now they're soulless.
>>200260208you most likely got it right in the first part. People living during winter at their homes, heating it up with food, making food in the same furnance that they themselves farmed and preserved. That kind of set up forms that kind of thinking where breaking a bread inside your home and your home only especially as a kid is something that is seen as necessary thingbut why would this mean this culture is bad? Its just different way of thinking. Its different rules.
>>200256983Because you can spend more time with that person if you eat at the same place. People don't need to go back to their homes to eat or to eat first and arrive later.>>200257807> But with older people if you come even unexpectedly and for short time and when it is someone close friend/relative, then they will offer you something. Like chocolate, candies, fruits, to drink a tea, something simple and fast mostly, like a snack.Based older folk.>>200259260>Like if someone pops over for a chat and some coffeeDon't you have fika? If it is tea time obviously you aren't going to be serving roast meat but some cake or pastries instead?>Yeah, I wonder if there's just some obvious miscommunication I'm missingAs I stated above I think that Nords just assume that "guest" means any person who enters their home instead of a friend/relative whom you invited to your home.
>>200260208>>200260315Food shortages were a thing everywhere.
>>200260915but you live in places where food just grows while you sleep and hold siesta. And its so much easier to grow seeds in southern regions, you dont need to spend half of your time prepping for winter. The entire country doesnt become a survival land for half of the year
>>200253127Invited guests will be served food of course. But if it's just little Timmy coming over to play with little Johnny, he won't get dinner as he'll get dinner at home and his mom will be angry if another family interferes with her feeding her own kids.Plus you don't want to get sued if the kid is allergig to certain foodstuffs or needs medication or something.
>>200260876>Don't you have fika? If it is tea time obviously you aren't going to be serving roast meat but some cake or pastries instead?Of course people serve snacks(provided they actually have it or were forewarned), be it for coffee, parties, movie nights, whatever. But does that really count as food in this context?>I think that Nords just assume that "guest" means any person who enters their home instead of a friend/relative whom you invited to your home.I suppose, but I mean it's kind of a given that if you invite someone over for dinner or coffee there will be food/snacks. That's kind of the entire point of the invitation.
>>200260915also did your ancestors eat trees to survive? Mine did and its like not even 100 years ago when it was no longer needed
>>200259591>>200259536Bill splitting is pretty common here when it comes to eating out. Everybody pays what they consumed or it is split evenly if it was a large meal and there was shared items like wine.Splitting the bill when it comes to eating at someone's home is much rarer and definitely seen as stingy. Guests are expected to bring something too but asking for the price and calculating who owes who what amount of money would be considered borderline rude.
>>200261147I wouldn't got that far, but I remember around dinner time more or less being the curfew for most kids on a school day.
>>200261160>But does that really count as food in this context?Anon... people in Med countries don't serve a full 8 course meal to a friend coming over for coffee.>>200261125Spain and Argentina have huge arid regions in which food doesn't magically grow everywhere.>>200261183Actually, my ancestors where Irish people who came here fleeing the potato blight. They just chose to come to Argentina instead of America due to Catholicism, I imagine.
>>200261410Oh. Then the map should probably be light green instead of red.
>>200261410>Spain and Argentina have huge arid regions in which food doesn't magically grow everywhere.anywhere south of Scania its literal easy mode in terms of farming. Think about it, wheat wasnt even grown here before the recent agricultural revolution!heck even in the 1950s some people didnt have chimneys! Think about that, living in a cold region without a chimney?! You are warming the house with a fire but all the smoke goes inside. there was a Greek or Roman guy that visited Finland and described how we were eating roots...
>>200253127Getting offered a treat/snack yeah.Lunch too (though in an annoyed manner if you didnt plan it earlier), but who tf randomly visits friends at like 3 in the afternoon?
>>200253127I served an LDS mission and it's pretty well known that wypipo don't give you anything when you visit their homes.I once visited a Polynesian home and they offered me a drink and then when I said sure they gave me a whole 12 pack. I once visited a Nigerian chief that had converted and lived in California and ran his chiefdom out of the ghetto like it was the opening scene to Black Panther. He laid out a whole spread of snacks when we showed up. I couldn't tell if it was special treatment or just what they always did. Hospitality is nice.
>>200253127>>200260208Same reason why northern european food is so bland and unappealing. Shitty cold climate means less food and smaller percentage of survival meaning everyone is soulless, won't share with guests, and won't even smile if you greet them walking by.
>>200253127I always offer something to eat when someone is over.
>>200253127I barged into my neighbours (who i didn't know) house in the morning when I was drunk and had forgotten my keys inside and they gave me food therefore this map is bullshit.
>>200255316Well if you read the Icelandic sagas which are Medieval stories set in Medieval Scandinavia and Iceland you will see that people offered food to their guests because it was just how you were supposed to act They would even serve food for their enemies
