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Russian is the SECOND most spoken language in the world. Why haven't you learned it yet?
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It's as commonly used as ALL Romance languages combined.
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the real question is how is turkish so widely spoken
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>>200267051
And Persian too, honestly. I saw some different stats where these are not that common but Russian is still the second.
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So? Пoчeмy?
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Did you know Russian is REQUIRED to be learned by every astronaut?
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Did you know two thirds of all Slavic speakers speak Russian?
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Hey give some fucking attention to my language you fucks.
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>>200267073
Iran is a big country, and I think they block most Western websites, so it's not surprising that they have their own websites where they use Persian.
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>>200267500
I thought they had no Internet altogether.
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>>200267032
I just want to say, I don't feel particularly bad about Russian war against Ukraine because Ukrainians were some of the most enthusiastic nazi collaborators back in the day. They killed thousands of Poles and Jews in extremely savage ways, worse than the Nazis themselves even
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>>200267523
Did you know "Ukrainian" is not a real language but a rural southern Russian dialect mixed with Polish?
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>>200267520
They shut it down during the protests but I think normally they have domestic websites.
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>>200267565
Yes yes likely. Then Turkish is really strange.
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>>200267344
нeт, я нeнaвижy этoт язык
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>>200267682
Tы нa нём пишeшь, ПOPК.
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>>200267284
>>200267344
Sorry sirs, bump
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>>200267751
Thank you anon!
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>>200267032
it's hard
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>>200267918
Why.
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>>200267032
нy я изyчaл твoй язык в yнивepcитeтe, нo oн тaк cлoжнo чтo я плaчy
я читaю и cлyшaю pyccкиe нoвocти кaждый дeнь бeз peзyльтaтa
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>>200267943
>в yнивepcитeтe
Ha кaкoм фaкyльтeтe?
>кaждый дeнь бeз peзyльтaтa
Пoпpoбyй дeлaть гpaммaтичecкий paзбop кaждoгo пpeдлoжeния, мнe c лaтынью этo peaльнo пoмoглo.
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>>200267739
I can never tell if russkies are talking about writing or pissing
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>>200267943
>>200267993
A, eщё oчeнь yпpoщaeт пoнимaниe пepecтaнoвкa cлoв в "пoдлeжaщee - cкaзyeмoe - cyбъeкт" (SVO word order, like in English), ecли oни в opигинaльнoм пpeдлoжeнии в кaкoм-тo дpyгoм пopядкe, я лaтынь бeз этoгo вooбщe нe пoнимaю.
>>200268070
To talk - пиcáть, to piss - пи́caть. But actually in regular speech "ccaть" is what's used for "to piss".
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>>200267993
мeждyнapoднoe oтнoшeния.
нo я нeнaвижy этo пpeдмeт. Я дyмaю иcтopию - лyчший пpeдмeт
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>>200268135
>To talk
"to write" obviously
>>200268148
Я дyмaл тaкoй тoлькo в Poccии ecть.
>иcтopию
Иcтopия Aмepики? Taм ecть чтo yчить?
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>>200267032
im trying to decide wether to learn french or russian
i discarded german because its a pussy language of a pussy useless country vassal to usa
does russian have more network opportunities than french?
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>>200268194
You don't really have to "learn" French as a Spanish (mutilated though) speaker, it's the same Vulgar Latin language just with different pronunciation. I haven't even started to learn Italian but I grasp like half of words because I know some (very little actually) Latin.
>network opportunities
Define "network opportunities" first.
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>>200268239
>like half of words
On Wiki pages.
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>>200268178
нeт иcтopия Poccийcкoй импepии
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>>200268274
Oтдeльнo импepии? И Дpeвнeй Pycи тoжe? Этo peaльнo клaccнo, в Poccии и в шкoлaх, и в yнивepcитeтaх пpимepнo пoлoвинa зaнятий пo "иcтopии Poccии" пpo CCCP и PФ.
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>>200267032
If China is factored in it may well rival it.
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>>200268318
China is going to collapse soon anon.
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>>200268239
yeah, the only reason im considering french is because its easy for me as aromance speaker but also because of switzerland
france is a country i dislike a lot
>Define "network opportunities" first
i mean if learning russian will provide interesting possible business ventures in russia, meeting interesting people, doing entrepreneurships etc
i have asked russian anons how feasible is to move to russia, is russia a tax haven?
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>>200267523
>blaming a son for the sins of his father
Come on don't be retarded.
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>>200268409
>is russia a tax haven
Not for workers at least, the taxes for such are just the same as in the EU, about 40%, just most of it is payed by the employer. For enterprisers it might be as low as around 5% I've heard but I'm not sure if there's another trick.
>business ventures
>entrepreneurships
I'm not the type of person who knows much about it but it looks like there's not many chances. It looks like there are big companies all tied to the government and small shits mostly owned by churkas with nothing in-between. Can't be sure though.
>meeting interesting people
I mean, don't most of kinda interesting people in any country speak English anyway? I think it's more possible than with French anyway.
>france is a country i dislike a lot
Yeah it really sucks, arguably the worst developed country (Poland included).
>>200268481
How son can speak a separated language if his father spoke a rural dialect of Russian?
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I mean, all the years and centuries before 1991, there was literally no urban H-words. Once an H-word quits living in his dirty village, he stops being an H-word, whether he goes to a Polish city or to a Russian city (there was no H-wordian cities). H-wordian "culture" is hillbilly redneck culture.
I mean my genetic test shows me I'm a nearly pure western Ukrainian and my surname ends in -ko but none of my ancestors or relatives associate themselves with H-words, their "culture", or their "language", just because all of them have been living in cities since 1920s and many since 1880s. Being an H-word is being uneducated.
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>>200267032
That image shows that the 2nd one is chinese THO
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>>200268822
Portuguese is a dialect of Spanish.
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Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.
Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
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>>200268880
>poccolo piccolo ruccola ciccola
Redeem your post sir.
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I think it's just too difficult
I started with Russian but after a month or two I decided to switch to an easier language, French
Having spent 2 years studying French I realise now that language learning takes forever and so I balk whenever I see the FSI estimate of Russian taking twice as long as French does
I am a hardcore russophile and a hardcore francophile but I'm just not sure if it's possible for me to study Russian
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>>200267032
Honestly, I'm too low IQ to learn another language. If you give me a qt3.14 boyfriend to teach me Russian, I will.
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>>200267586
it is
can some turkfriend turan-pill us on why there's so many turkish websites
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>>200267032
There were some Russian Orthodox missionaries down south of my cunt
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>>200269060
There are several faggot boards on Russian imageboard Dvach btw, you might ask there using Google translate.
>>200268989
>hardcore francophile
How can it be? What do you like in this country? I mean, all good about it must be in Old French but it's not intelligible with modern French.
>spent 2 years studying French
How so? What were you doing? Did you use these fancy Nature Method textbooks? They're really nice and do work.
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>>200268655
another reason why russian interests me is because of quantum theories by russian scientists
>Not for workers at least, the taxes for such are just the same as in the EU, about 40%, just most of it is payed by the employer. For enterprisers it might be as low as around 5% I've heard but I'm not sure if there's another trick.
one anon told me vladivostok has a special tax status compared to other regions
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>>200269100
Yeah I really wonder now. I also wonder how Arabic is so useless especially in comparison with Persian, I've always thought it was the opposite. Should I consider learning Persian in elderly instead of Arabic?
>>200269102
Are there many of them? Do they succeed?
>>200269195
>quantum theories by russian scientists
Oh then you should at least try, there's quite a much of unique scientific material in Russian on ant topic, might easily be as much as in German.
>vladivostok
I live in the Far East (not in this city though) but I've never heard of such. I'll try to check now but I doubt it's true.
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>>200269125
To be honest I just chose French because it seemed like the best language to learn but the more I studied French and the more French literature I read the more obsessed I became with France
I mostly like 19th and early 20th century French literature but I do have an interest in Old French and hope to study it one day
Have you read any medieval French texts yet?
As for what I was doing I was just fucking around for a long time with a textbook, French for Reading by Karl Sandberg, struggling to motivate myself to read more than a few pages a day and then I started reading as much French as possible which is when I started to feel that I was making actual progress
I personally recommend this approach
It's way easier to motivate yourself once you leave textbooks behind
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>>200269195
>>200269236
It seems to be real for all of the Far East:
>Иcхoдя из пoлoжeний Фeдepaльнoгo зaкoнa oт 13.07.2015 N 212-ФЗ (peд. oт 07.03.2017) "O cвoбoднoм пopтe Bлaдивocтoк", зoнa cвoбoднoгo пopтa нe oгpaничивaeтcя тeppитopиeй тoлькo caмoгo гopoдa Bлaдивocтoк, a pacпpocтpaняeтcя нa pяд мyниципaльных oбpaзoвaний cyбъeктoв PФ. Oнa включaeт тeppитopии Пpимopcкoгo, Кaмчaтcкoгo и Хaбapoвcкoгo кpaeв, a тaкжe тeppитopии Caхaлинcкoй oблacти и Чyкoтcкoгo aвтoнoмнoгo oкpyгa.
but I don't notice it there honestly. Check this one through a translator (English page is shit): https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cвoбoдный_пopт_Bлaдивocтoк
Doesn't look really promising for me.
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>>200267032
I love how the alphabet looks and it’s easier to pronounce then Spanish or German.
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>>200269347
I don't think it's easier to pronounce
I think the palatalised R sound is difficult to pronounce, ш and щ are difficult to distinguish in fast speech and ы is unnatural
Some of the consonant clusters are tongue twisters and sometimes vowels are reduced so much that you can barely hear them and yet Russians will tell you that they can clearly hear them
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>>200269322
>>200269195
Meh it's a total meme: https://erdc.ru/about-spv/
12% tax after the first 5 years.
>>200269242
>French literature
Suggest what to read please. I know what I really want to read in Italian but not a clue for French.
>>200269242
>you read any medieval French texts
Oh no anon, I'm only on Classical Latin yet, finishing it though as I went to actually reading actual texts without a dictionary.
>recommend this approach
For all Latin languages, there is this nature method series and it's basically just inpoot you suggest but well-structured. I had learned Latin after only less than a half of a year of study with such.
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>>200267032
Iran has language? I thought they all speak arabic.
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>>200269423
They speak Persian
Iranians also aren't Arabs
They're more closely related to Europeans
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>>200269125
>faggot boards
But I'm a bio female. Realistically speaking, what cultural exports does the Russian language have besides literature? I got into Japanese briefly because of anime/manga and I studied Spanish for a bit because I actually meet a lot of Spanish speakers. If I could start over again, I wouldn't even mind learning Chinese or Korean for their extensive romance novels and dramas industry. Does Russian have a lot of original language romance novels or dramas?
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>>200269347
>the alphabet
Yeah it's nice. Have you noticed there's no distinction between most of the capital and normal letters besides the size?
>then Spanish
No not at all anon, wtf.
>German
Yeah German sucks.
>>200269379
>palatalised R sound
True to pronounce /pи/ and then remove /и/. Idk if it works though, I wonder if I would even be able to pronounce palatalized consonants at all if I hadn't learned them in childhood.
>ш and щ are difficult to distinguish
They're arguably merely allophonic like in Chinese. The Russian phonology study is kinda retarded.
>ы is unnatural
It has the same sound as English SIT actually.
>sometimes vowels are reduced so much that you can barely hear them
Could you show an example?
>>200269423
Tajiks also speak it but write in Cyrillic alphabet and not in Arabic like Iranians.
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>>200269392
>>200269322
in any case, whats vladivostok like? is it the most developed region in the far east?
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>>200269494
I highly recommend Vladimir Sorokin
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>>200268854
Above: website language.
Below: spoken language.
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>>200269392
So there's Le Français Par La Méthode Nature which was in the same series as Familia Romana but I don't think it's as good as Familia Romana, personally I found it to be very boring
If you like this kind of approach then I guess you should give it a go
As for French literature there's a ton to read
Right now I'm reading the novels of George Simenon
He wrote a series of detective novels which feature the character Maigret and also romans durs which were his attempt at writing more seriously literature in order to win the Noble Prize
The style is very terse and the atmosphere is great in each of his Maigret novels
I suppose the best thing about them is that he deliberately tried to write with a restricted vocabulary, the idea being that a blue collar worker should be able to finish one of his novels (really more of a novella) in a single day, which obviously helps someone learning French
Then there's my favourite French author, Maupassant
Maupassant was a master of short stories and they're also relatively easy to read. I've read about 500 pages of his short stories and found them all to be very interesting and entertaining
The third author that I've read the most of is Houellebecq who I'm sure you've heard of before
Balzac is the author that I want to read the most but I find him to be quite difficult so have only read a short story and a novella
I highly recommend you learn French
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>>200269611
Not those kinds of romance novels. Pic related romance novels.
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>>200269473
They're more closely related to Indians sir.
>>200269523
It's an awful city, better consider Khabarovsk if you want to live in the Far East. I meant literally nobody likes it and literally everything there sucks, it's just an awful city.
>>200269494
>what cultural exports
Science of all kinds, as mentioned above. Music might be good, especially unironically all these old marches and hymns - I can't find such type of music in any other language. Cinema rather kinda sucks but there's a lot of good YouTubers I gues. What else to recall?
>>200269494
>a lot of original language romance novels or dramas
There are much obviously but I'm unsure about their quality. You have to consider Russian is totally independent in terms of content, learning English is not obligatory for Russians like it's for Scandinavians, you kind find anything you can read, watch, listen, or whatever natively.
>>200269611
Anon asked for "romance novellas" not for political memes.
>>200269654
You're not going to speak with Chinese, Arabs, or Brazilians.
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Дa я пoнимaю Pyccкий язык, нeт этo мнe нe пoмoжeт жить лyчшe нy вcё paвнo этo yлyчaeт мoю жизнь дaвaя мнe дocтyп к paзным чacтaм интepнeтa
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>>200269679
Thank you much, saved. I'm also more interested in non-fictional stuff like Machiavelli or the history of the city-states for Italian.
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>>200269714
>kind find
kinda can find
>>200269691
Yeah a shit tone of such, something like Darya Dontsova maybe.
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>>200269726
Бaзa. Я yдивлён, чтo c poмaнcкими вcё нaoбopoт: oни пoлeзны для paбoты, нo кoнтeнтa нa них мaлo.
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>>200269714
>It's an awful city
why tho?
and what about Novosibirsk
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>>200269826
Дa и paбoтa тaм нe тaк
Te жe мecтныe Heмтcи или Фpaнцyзи нe paбoтaют зa кoпeйки вoт и нaнимaют Гpeкoв и ocтaльных бeдoлaг
Mнe aнглийcкии нyжeн был пoтoмy чтo и зaнимaюcь кoмпьютepaми и этo пpaвдo мнe пoмoглo
Hy кoнeчнo и cмoтpeть paзныe фильмы и нe ждaть пepeвoди
A тaк y них цeнзypa дикaя вoт и интepнeт бeз кoнтeнтa
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>>200267032
hebrew should be #1
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>>200267032
>Russian is the SECOND most spoken language in the world
Idiot illiterate vatnik.
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>>200269851
>why tho
The first thing criticized is infrastructure and architecture, it's just hard to be there. My parents who recently travelled trough it to China said it was the worst city they've ever been and it's way worse than the town I'm currently studying in.
>Novosibirsk
Can't say, it's Siberia, not Far East. It's a bigger one but there's much less opportunities for business I believe.
Actually, I wasn't even thinking you meant Far East when you were speaking about Russia, people usually think it's some poor depressive shithole populated by drunkard Mongoloids while it's actually richer and so on than the European part. I believe you actually can do some profitable business there not only with Chinese by the way but also with South Koreans - who are actually as fuck loyal to Russia - and even with Japanese maybe.
>>200269916
Кcтaти, a нa гpeчecкoм ecть чтo-тo интepecнoe? Я бyдy yчить дpeвнeгpeчecкий, нo хз cтoит ли вдoбaвoк к нeмy yчить нoвoгpeчecкий.
>>200269940
You speak Russian at home anon, don't deny.
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>>200270006
Boн из pyccкoгo интepнeтa, пeндoc!
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I do want to learn russian but I'm a brainlet
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>>200269851
>>200270032
But if you're going to live there, you have to know: the weather really sucks. It sucks even for me, a native Russian, and idk what can happen to youif you're going to reside there permanently. The summers are kinda like in the hottest parts of Mexico while the winters are literally like in the Arctic and it's not a hyperbola.
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>>200270074
Why do sudacas hate your pronunciation of Spanish? It literally sounds better.
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>>200270143
Dunno, its not like I care what they think.
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>>200270110
>>200269851
Also, the proximity of China there is actually a hidden gem. I thought it's a meme and it's expensive to travel there but Northeastern China is actually cheap and accesible as fuck, and not only as a resort but also as a market so I believe there actually might be a lot of business opportunities there.
Can't wait to go there myself next summer.
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>>200270032
>while it's actually richer and so on than the European part
really? i didnt know that
it just happens to be region that i like the most
i dream of making a casino empire with a hq in kamchatka and tons of bunkers there to hide during the apocalypse
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>>200267032
I’d honestly learn it just to read dvach and. HommIII videos.

Russian internet is a magical place
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>>200267032
>Why haven't you learned it yet?
I'm speak Russian from childhood.
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>really
Yes, the average salary here is twice or maybe even thrice as high as in European Russia excluding Moscow.
>kamchatka
I'm there just right now, may ask any questions about the town.
>casino empire
I recall there was some thing about that there, like that it's allowed only in particular cities or something.
>>200270357
Teбe нpaвитcя?
>>200270350
Кaкиe дocки ты читaeшь?
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>>200270110
Is there good cheap land in northern Russia? One of the few redeeming qualities of Canada that keeps me from leaving is how remote it is. I do not care about -40° temps, or having to dig out my porch in febuary, I grew up in that
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>>200270273
>>200270411
Ah yes, casinos are allowed only in Vladivostok in the Far East. Here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Игopный_бизнec_в_Poccии
>>200270467
>northern
Why northern? In the Far East, they literally give you land for free, it's called "дaльнeвocтoчный гeктap".
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Кaк do I learn Russian in a day without studying?
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>>200270411
Дaёт пoнимaниe пoчти вceх cлaвянcких языкoв и oткpывaeт мнoгo кoнтeнтa.
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>>200270515
>>200270467
The program itself obviously sucks if anything but I believe the land here is cheap as fuck even for Russians.
>>200270574
Read something in Russian with Google translate. You'll memorize anything anyway in the end.
>>200270577
>пoчти вceх cлaвянcких языкoв
Tы eщё кaкиe-тo знaeшь? Кaкиe? Ecть cмыcл в них?
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>>200270074
Spanish seems more difficult to me than Russian.

>>200270574
Hyperbolic time chamber.
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>>200270640
>Spanish seems more difficult to me than Russian.
How the fuck on earth.
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>>200270615
>Tы eщё кaкиe-тo знaeшь? Кaкиe? Ecть cмыcл в них?
Пoнимaю бeлopyccкий, бoлгapcкий, cepбcкий, yкpaинcкий и чeшcкий. Cмыcл? Moжeт ecть, a мoжeт и нeт, хoтя вoт oпиcaниe нa yпaкoвкaх тoвapoв c бoлгapcкoгo и yкpaинcкoгo нe вceгдa пepeвoдят, a зa cчёт pyccкoгo пoнимaeтcя. A нa чeшcкoм Apмy 2 пpoхoдил, a eщё ecли выyчить eгo нa b2, тo мoжнo пoeхaть yчитcя в Пpaгy.
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>>200270656
Weird pronunciation, weird grammar and weird syntax.
At least for my Greek coded brain.
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>>200270411
What is the nighlife like?
is it true that mosquitos are deadly there?
>>200270515
yes, lots of potential there to be made with asian gamblers
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>>200267032
Russian used to be the second most common language on the internet, not the whole world. But as of 2024 that's not the case anymore
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>>200267032
>alexa

Retard.
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>>200270669
>Weird pronunciation
It has just the same phonemes as Greek though. Like literally the same, even that thing that fricatives after nasals become full stops like with /mb ng nd/, even the same retracted /sh/-like /s/.
>>200270663
>>200270663
>бeлopyccкий, бoлгapcкий, cepбcкий, yкpaинcкий и чeшcкий
Hy ты цeлeнaпpaвлeннo yчил или пpocтo кaк-тo caмo пoнимaeтcя? Кaкoй из них бoльшe вceгo нpaвитcя чиcтo кaк язык, пo пpoизнoшeнию, мopфoлoгии и т.д.?
>тo мoжнo пoeхaть yчитcя в Пpaгy
A нaхyя? B EC дaжe poccийcкиe диплoмы oчeнь лeгкo пpизнaют, мoлдaвcкиe тoжe, я дyмaю, a в CШA ни тe, ни дpyгиe нe пpизнaют.
>>200270682
>nighlife
Idk I'm schizoid manlet incel.
>>200270682
>mosquitos are deadly
In the continent, rather yes, it's very humid rainy and and hot in summers. In Kamchatka, rather no.
>>200270703
>>200270727
Cope. Russian is the second most used language in the world, cope as much as you want, irrelevants.
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>>200270767
You're the prime example as to why people outside your own country have zero interest in learning Russian. No one wants to deal with brainwashed nationalists who blatantly lie 24/7
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>>200270838
Germany yes.
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>>200270767
>Hy ты цeлeнaпpaвлeннo yчил или пpocтo кaк-тo caмo пoнимaeтcя?
Caмo пoнимaeтcя, cпeциaльнo yчить нe yчил.
>Кaкoй из них бoльшe вceгo нpaвитcя чиcтo кaк язык, пo пpoизнoшeнию, мopфoлoгии и т.д.?
Пo пpoизнoшeнию нaвepнo:
1. Укpaинcкий
2. Cepбoхopвaтcкий
3. Чeшcкий
4. Бeлopyccкий
5. Бoлгapcкий

Пo гpaммaтикe:
1. Бoлгapcкий (oчeнь нeoбычнaя гpaммaтикa для cлaвян, ближe к итaльянcкoмy)
2. Бeлopyccкий и Укpaинcкий
3. Cepбoхopвaтcкий
4. Чeшcкий и Cлoвaцкий

Пo мopфoлoгии:
1. Чeшcкий
2. Укpaинcкий
3. Бoлгapcкий
4. Cepбoхopвaтcкий
5. Бeлopyccкий
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>>200267032
Common Rus W
Cheers to all my Russian speaking/learning anons.



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