why does America dominate the rocket business?
>>201207334Operation Paperclip
>>201207415I would rather die than live your life for one minute.
>>201207415>least mentally ill discord tranny
>>201207484She turned 18 the picosecond the first penis entered her vagina so it's okay
>>201207534If I woke up in your body I would kill myself immediately.
The French literally dominated the commercial rocket and satellite market for 60 years up until 2010
>>201207652why can't they compete with elon?
>>201207334Multiple factors but the bottom line is simply greater investment. Despite their retarded ways, the decisions that the Congress and NASA made back in the early 2000's to offload even more of our space industry innovation and interests into the private sector was a seminal moment in American aerospace history. It's what resulted in the nu-space revolution and it's culminated in the solidification of SpaceX as *the* market leader, globally. It's also the reason why we now have so many companies that can and are stepping in to provide services that will support the post ISS world.These decisions that were made took 20 years to workout, but what you're seeing now is the fruits of this labor.
>>201207710Compete for what? American military contracts? They are a French company.
>>201207791Bezos is so jealous, it's unreal.
>>201207415I wish I could think like you
>>201207415he's saying what we're all thinking
>>201207842He'll be fine, the production facility that Blue Origin has up and running is huge and serious business. Jeffrey is not fucking around and even if he doesn't win the main contracts for the Artemis project, he will be a very strong competitor and far and away better than what Europe or Asia have to offer. See this latest tour of the facility, he's all inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsuqSn7ifpU
>>2012079232 more weeks
>>201207542what did he do?
>>201209225You're gonna be posting that through starlink one day
>>201207354What could have been...
>>201207334SpaceX does, America is just lucky to have it.>>201207805Ah, the military contract cope. I haven't seen this one in quite some time.
>>201211210>luckyThere was no luck involved. It was a deliberate strategy and investment by Congress and NASA in 2004-2006.
>>201211470If congress is so smart with their investment, then why do NASA rockets individually cost almost as much as the entire cost of Starship's development so far while still being single use?
>>201207334What has Space-X actually done aside from inventing reusable boosters doeIts been like 10 years and musk still hasn't built a rocket that can top saturn V.
>>201211551That is literally the reason they passed those laws back in the mid 2000s, to lower the costs of LEO launches/deliveries. SpaceX exists because of those choices and investments.
>>201211699>What has Space-X actually done aside from inventing reusable boosters doeIt lowered the cost of sending a kilogram into space to historic levels. In terms of technology, Starship can lift more than Saturn V
>>201211912Am I supposed to be impressed by a cgi rocket landing?
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>>201212009You asked what SpaceX has done to top the Sat V, and I educated you. Here's some further education
>>201211699>aside from inventing reusable boostersYou say it like it's not something worthy of praise alone, which it very much is. Anyway, SpaceX has created the Starlink constellation, which currently has over 6000 satellites in it. It has been in service for years with launches varying from one per 2 weeks to several times in a single week. I'm pretty sure they are even expanding to allow for smartphone-satellite communication, for emergency situations. SpaceX also has a human rated capsule, Dragon 2, which has ended NASA's dependence on Roscosmos for ferrying astronauts to and from the ISS. Have you heard that Boeing's Starliner capsule got stuck on the ISS due to technical issues? Well if push comes to shove, they astronauts will be brought back in a Dragon 2 capsule. There will also be a mission next Monday using said capsule that will feature the first even commercial space walk, using SpaceX's very own EVA suit design. This suit might be useful later since NASA didn't manage to make their own for the return to the moon program, and SpaceX will be providing the lander for that anyway.>>201211816I agree that those laws allowed commercial space flight to take off, no pun intended, but considering just how (quite literally) far above SpaceX is above other commercial launchers, US really is lucky to have them.>>201212009Yes, since that isn't CGI. Although I'm not sure why that Anon posted old footage, there have been several orbital tests now with staging and shit.
>>201212239>>201212366lollmao evenhttps://spacenews.com/starship-lunar-lander-missions-to-require-nearly-20-launches-nasa-says/
>>201212623Nigger, I've known this for years. This isn't news to me.
>>201212656>saturn v>goes to the moon and comes back>starship>uhhhh we need like uhhhh 20 launches and then uhhhh
>>201212729Apollo astronauts had to live in a tiny space for several days of the mission in a low density atmosphere of pure oxygen. SpaceX plans to land in what is basically a large house with thrusters.
>>201212839>SpaceX plans to land in what is basically a large house with thrusters.why
>>201212623Different mission profiles, Saturn V was self contained all within one launch. Artemis calls for multiple phases as dictated by NASA itself and it requires refueling in orbit. Blue Origin will be doing something similar.And in-space refueling is the way of the future by the way, all future space missions will likely require it until nuclear propulsion is implemented. And even then you'll still need ways to transfer payloads between rockets. It's an important evolution that needs to happen.
>>201212899What's the point of commercial airliners when pic related exists?
>>201213000To move people from one livable continent with breathable oxygen to anotherWhats the point of sending people into space when we have been sending rovers all over the solar system for like 30 years now your response cannot include phrases such as "human endeavors" or "faustian will"
>>201207354The Soviet has the same operation and they took in thousands more than we did yet they don't dominate rocket business anymore.
>>201213072>your response cannot include phrases such as "human endeavors" or "faustian will"Then I have no response, or a desire to keep talking to you after this post.
>>201213129another spacenigger defeated you will never be a real astronaut
Good luck puting a person there
>>201213300Are you talking about that rocket in the OP image? If yes, they've already done that 13 times (as in 13 manned mission, each having at least 2 people aboard), and they will be doing that again next Monday.
>>201212623now look up the mass of Apollo's lander versus how much mass they want to drop on the moon with starship
>>201212623>>201213446I quickly found this. It's to scale, but the design is outdated. Starship won't have those legs, and will probably be a bit taller.
>>201213558HLS will in fact have legs, it's a different variant from the one that SpaceX will be using for it's civilian business ventures.
>>201213558Yeah, truth is there hasn't been a true revolution in terms of chemical rocket propulsion for a long time. Modern engines are only slightly more efficient than the stuff the US or the USSR were producing in the 70s.That's how you can tell that if you need 10 times the fuel to do something now compared to the 70s, it's probably because you're just trying to move something that's 10 times heavier.
>>201213679I know, it'll have to have legs due to the nature of the mission, I just said not THOSE legs.
>>201213738Well, there is only so much you can do with chemical propulsion, which SpaceX are currently pushing to the absolute limit.
>>201213818Engine stats.
>>201207334Elon Musk is AfricanPlease never forget that
I'm going to bed. Before I go, I want to tell to those who are not aware that Starship's launch tower has stick arms that are used to lift and stack the rocket stages, and the next test flight will be testing their ability to catch the first stage for reuse.
>>201213818I love it when engineers eventually realize they were overengineering since the beginning.
>>201214317It's not that simple, actually. The first version had a bunch of sensors and accessibility for part swapping and fixing. As more data was gathered, the less of that stuff was needed, plus there were actually a bunch of optimizations. According to what I've read, Raptor 3 moved a lot of the external complexity inside, so that the engines wouldn't need extra heat shielding. Apparently, SpaceX has amazing metal 3D printing tech.
>>201213916He's African-American.
