Who was in the right here?
>>201794822Daedric BVLLS. Fuck Septimmy gon do
>>201794822Dunmer, the beast races need to be enslaved, otherwise they just become thieves
Hammerfell is the only without sin.
>>201794822The current Imperial dynasty has zero legitimacy. Mede literally just usurped the throne. The Dragonborn has a better claim to the throne than those nobodies do.
dark elves be seething
>>201794822>snipe your foes>eat their corpses>fuck with wild animalsYeah, I'm thinking BOSMER
>>201794822The Empire
>>201795013>dark elves be seething
>>201794887>Septimmy
>>201795466lol
>>201795013We all know they’re not gonna keep it anon, Argonians are too boring
>>201795466>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BTFO ME I'M TOO WEAK!!!Massive knife ear cope
>>201795466So do the Hist actually control the Argonians, is it symbiotic where they’re semi equals, or are the Hist kinda aloof and let them do what they want? How’s that work?
>>201796139Hist is kind of like the hivemind, argonians are more or less bug people, similar to a certain very mocked south asian people
>dunmertards long for the second coming of the dunmer messiah that will bring TND and liberate their land from the empire>you are the messiah and do the exact oppositei dont get it
>>201794822Anyone who isn't a incelf so the empire
>>201795013They chimped out when Morrowind was at its weakest, they aren’t holding shit
>>201796896"Chimped out at the slavers" jesus Americans truly don't learn from history
>>201796956Those evil slaving women and children!
>>201794822ESO ruined them all for me at least before then i could pretend the stuff we had not see yet was cool
>>201798014Is Online canon? And what did they mess up?
>>201798131its not canon but it doesn't have ot be canon to kill the vibe frfr
>>201794993>The current Imperial dynasty has zero legitimacy. Mede literally just usurped the throne.How else do you get legitimacy? That’s how most dynasties do it
>>201797945Sherman didn't seem to mind burning down the houses of those slaving women and children Irl
>>201798226Bit of a difference between burning women and children and burning their houses
>>201794822>4e202>daggerfall on the elthetic coastcmon now
>>201798202usually tying yourself to a national myth
>>201799333Is dabbing on the Nords (assuming that’s the result they go with) gonna be enough?
Consider..
>>201794822My predictions>The empire is legit over. As if Tiber's doomposting in Morrowind wasn't enough, they even lost their divine right in Oblivion. Cyrodiil has been ravaged so hard by the Dominion that even a veteran assassin like Cicero didn't think any part of it was safe and had to go to Skyrim>Nords will go the Dunmer route. Will finally free themselves from the Imperials but at a great cost. Will suffer greatly from all sort of shit like the cost of the civil war, Alduin reviving fucktons of dragons all across Skyrim, Potema, Volkihar, Forsworn shenanigans, etc.>Dunmer eventually retaking northern northern Black Marsh after regaining strength. Argonians were able to rampage across Morrowind when the province was at it's weakest with literally no military because of the armstice but was suddenly stopped and pushed back once House Redoran was actually able to build one.It could genuinely be the Dominion's time but I doubt Bethesda has the balls to do it because muh Nazis
Dagoth Ur.
>>201799833What will the Dominion expand into first do you think? Will they invade Cyrodiil itself and put the empire out of its misery or invade Hammerfell and High Rock?
>>201794993>Mede literally just usurped the throneDidn’t the last Septim die? Who else should have gotten the throne?
>>201796139The hist are some of the peak obscure TESlore.tl:dr the Hist are the original dominant race of Nirn. They were in Nirn long before the ancestors of men and mer arrived. The Hist occupied the entire world, but after the elnohfex war and the destruction of the world they were relegated to Argonia.The Hist are an incredibly intelligent hivemind. Emphasis on *INCREDIBLY* intelligent, basically like an organic quantum supercomputer. Kirkbride wrote about how they would be conquering the galaxy with spaceships by the fifth or seventh age (I dont remember which). You can argue that Kirkbride's schizo rambles arent canon but then again he pretty much wrote all the deep lore and foundation of the franchise on a metaphysical level. Without him TES would just be another generic fantasy world.Atm the Hist are just biding their time and waiting patiently for who knows what to happen. Argonians were just random swamp lizards whom the Hist decided to use as their tools and thus began influencing their evolution. On their own Argonians are absolute shitters and have always been, but whenever a huge crisis happens the Hist take direct control over their bodies. They are then rapidly evolved through genetic engineering to suit whatever 7d chess strategy the Hist come up with. Thats how they absolutely BTFO Dagon to the point it is implied that the only reason Tamriel wasnt destroyed is because the daedras had to rush their main forces to prevent the Hist-controlled Argonians from taking over Oblivion.
>>201800494They already tried to take over Hammerfell and lost.
>>201800494Hammerfell is the choice. It's the weaker of the two provinces and is legit the only human province that can contend with the Dominion's navy. The Empire, especially at it's current state does not have the strength or the balls to go for a round 2. The Dominion doesn't really need to do much except build up their armies again. Imperial nobles are already plotting to throw each other under the bus during Skyrim.
>>201800866So would they likely never make an Elder Scrolls: Black Marsh to keep them mysterious then?
ARGONIARGONIA
>>201795466
>>201801427>implying nu-bethesda gives a shit about early 00s TESloreTodd Howard sold the sci-fi and esoteric elements of the franchise for mass market appeal starting with Oblivion. What remained were just odd references here and there which got more and more diluted over time, but never anything fully out there. The ingame lorebooks can still mention dragonbreaks but the actual quests are generic fantasy slop. A shame really.TES VI wont be special at all regardless of where it is set.
>>201794822>>201795013>play Skyrim>look at Tamriel map in the fourth era>Tear is shown as a major Dunmer trading portlel, argonitroons really have to push their fanfic hard to feel good about themselves and I don't even mean that as a vague insult, canonically argonians beg the hist to give them gender reassignment surgery look it uphttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:A_Grand_Transformationyou dilating scalie fucking TROONS
>>201794822>mainland morrowind uses a mix of TR, ESO, and beyond skyrim locationscursed beyond belief, where did you get this OP
Tabasco, I mean Black Marsh, home...
>>201801740>Look it up>Current East Empire Company map in a Thieves' Guild quest shows that Tear is still considered a part of Morrowind and is still trading with them>Supported by the Winterhold College quest with the Synod's map in the Dwemer Oculory>Mfw the slaver capital of Morrowind still standsFucking hell, why are Argonians like this
>>201800347basedPapa Dagoth did nothing wrong
The imperials and nords deserved what happened in Tamriels fall
>>201794822everyone hates High Elves because they are so obviously superior to the other aces.Argonians and Kajits are the brownpipo of Tamriel
>>201794822>muh catsfuck khajeets
>>201798202It’s having dragon blood in the case of the Empire
>Come, lay down your weapons, it's not too late for my mercy
>>201794993It's not really usurping if no one has the throne and no one has any claim on it. Usurping it is when you take it when it legally belongs to someone else.
>>201806687He has no claim to it. There’s no dragon blood in the Mede dynasty and they were just Colovian warlords.
>>201799614What a retarded take. The Imperial Legion didn't invade Skyrim and the Thalmor do not support the Stormcloaks and Nato didn't fight a war against Russia which caused Ukraine to rebel.
>>201806746It doesn't matter if he has no claim when nobody else does either. It's literally free for grabs if nobody has a claim on it.
>>201806822Then it’s a rump state at best. Plus I told you the Dragonborn literally does have a legitimate claim.
>>201799614What a schizo meme
>>201794822The imperials for slacking off.
>>201794822In this order>Hammerfell>Argonia>The Empire>Morrowind>Ulfric's rebels>Thalmor
>>201794822me
>>201794822I support the Tribunal I kneel to Temple Bvlls
>>201806791>the Thalmor do not support the Stormcloaks>He doesn't know...
>>201807113Schizo
>>201806867>the Dragonborn literally does have a legitimate claimNo he doesn't. The law of the empire doesn't say that anyone with dragon blood has a claim on the throne. Just because the empire was founded by a dragonborn doesn't mean that all dragonborn have a claim on it.
>>201807242There were many hints in the game that Ulfric was manipulated by Thalmor.
>>201807242https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Thalmor_Dossier:_Ulfric_Stormcloak
>>201807113>>201807242>>201806791The Thalmor support the idea of the Empire being a prolonged civil war. Elves breed slowly, and they will take several human generations before they are capable of waging a war against the empire again.So they mind broke Ulfric after capturing him during the great war, and did everything in their power to turn him into a crazy charismatic leader who hates the Empire. And now they do their best to make sure he doesn't lose, or win.
>>201807300>>201807307>>201807315Manipulating one man into starting a rebellion is not supporting them. Why are you people so retarded?
>>201807351I was clarifying what the other anon was trying to point out. Not saying he's 100% right.Stop being an angry cunt.
>>201807351>Manipulating one man into starting a rebellion is not supporting themIt describes him as an asset, so yeah they're supporting himThey don't care about his cause and are doing it for their own reasons.
>>201794822>Who was in the right? Men>Who was in the wrong?Mer
Morrowind was the only game with decent lore, Oblivion was the only game with good faction quests and Skyrim was the most fun game with modsdamn, I need to replay this series sometime soon
>>201804746Argonians enslaving Argonians
>>201794822FROM THE JERRALS TO THE SEASKYRIM WILL BE FREE
>>201807381So the Thalmor are supporting a man who is going to sack their land...
>>201807535No they're supporting him because allowing the civil war to continue weakens the Imperials, allowing them to be more easily controlled
>>201807566>support ulfric>he becomes king>he sacks the summer set islesI uh don't understand this plan
>>201796139Hist is like a trailer trash pitmommy, she lets her babies roam around terrorizing folks but expect them to serve her whenever she asks>>201800866>obscureesoteric, you meanHist might be the second most overly discussed mystery in TES, next to CHIM
>>201807535>So the Thalmor are supporting a man who is going to sack their land...Ulfric couldn't do that shit even if he won the civil war, the Nords' glory days are way behind themThe Thalmor are the only ones benefitting from the civil war. The Imperials and the Stormcloaks are wasting precious manpower and resources killing each other instead of using those to prepare for the inevitable Dominion vs Empire rematch.
>>201807731>Ulfric couldn't do that shit even if he won the civil warHe easily could it would only take about 3 months>preciousThe invasion of the elves is as far as a decade away from when Ulfric rules
>>201807619>>he sacks the summer set isleseven nords aren't this deluded
>>201807619They don't want him to win. They just wanted the civil war to continue as long as possible to keep Imperials in a weaker position, so that they can continue to control the Imperials
>>201807768The top general in Skyrim said that is what he's preparing to do
>>201800866KinoI love the hist now, total hist victory
>>201807796>They don't want him to winSo he isn't working for them cheers!
>We must all stop using our most powerful weapon and conquering our neighbors because uh... We just have to, mkay? The voice is le bad or something Why are nords so retarded?
>>201807381>so yeah they're supporting himagainst the Empire who literally have a public contract stating they follow the rules dictated by the Dominion? really?next you'd say imperials actually hate the concordat and they'd go against the elves in two more weeks
>>201807835Mindbroken by Chadevar
>>201807835Shout lore>the most powerful weapon in existence that can tear enemies to shredsin-game shouts>does like 5% damage to high-level enemies
>>201794822Aldmeri dominion, next Great War and h*mans will be wiped out from existence (based)
>>201807835when I played Skyrim on release on the PS3, I used to have the game on the second-easiest difficulty but never upgraded my health.It actually led to an interesting late-game where both me and my enemies were deadly given the circumstances and there was no bullet sponge-ing. And all that without mods
>>201807993>wiped out from existence (Actually it's been leaked that TESVI is about being a teenage Nord girl who is a refugee in Hammerfell
>>201807834>>201807852They directly state and describe Ulfric as an assetDon't know what to tell you. If you think it doesn't make sense, take it up with the writers
>>201800866>Dagon btfo!!!!!Another Shitgonian being retarded, the only source for muh invading oblivion is some fag lizard telling Scalie propaganda, he wasn’t even alive when that happened…
>>201807909>Shout lore>>the most powerful weapon in existence
>>201808033You seen those warriors from Hammerfell? They have curved swords. Big. Curved. Swords.
>>201807835My headcanon on why the Nords stopped using The Voice is that while Jurgen Windcaller enforcing his pacifistic doctrine towards its use did cause it to decline, the main reason it actually disappear is because the battle of Red Mountain and the following Succesion War caused such unimaginable destruction that severely depopulated Skyrim of its able-bodied warriors that the tradition simply cease to exist because nobody is left to pass it as a tradition.
>>201807835>Be Jurgen Windcaller, bloodthirsty Thu'um warrior>Think the Thu'um is the most powerful weapon in all of Nirn>Heard your Chief god's heart is in Red Mountain and being defiled by Elves>Pissed, most of your fellow Thu'um users join the war>Get utterly BTFO'd even with the Thu'um>Sees Ysmir Wulfharth, the strongest Thu'um users in your army get BTFO'd in 1v1 by the Elven general known as Nerevar >>201808072>Get mindbroken, wander Skyrim>Find out the Thu'um was originally a gifted weapon against oppression since the Nords' were once slaves to dragons>Think what's happening to Skyrim right now being BTFO'd by their neighbors is just karma> Become pacifist and The Way of the Voice is born
>>201807796>They don't want him to winSo they don't support him. You don't understand what the word means. If you support someone you want them to win. Using somebody is not the same as supporting them.
>>201808634>Using somebody is not the same as supporting them.Okay then by that definition they dont support the Imperials eitherYou are just being overly literal
>>201794822Ayleids
>>201808661Yeah let's just everybody use words how we like so that nobody understand what the others are saying and everybody misunderstands everybody. No, I'm not being overly literal. You just can't accept that you're dumb.
>>201808778Address this>by that definition they dont support the Imperials either
>>201808634>If you support someone you want them to win.You are retarded.
>>201808778And yeah they are supporting him, even if the support is conditional and self interested
>>201794822not gonna lie the politics and races and stuff in this series makes no sense. i guess it's an artefact of DnD.
>>201808828Nobody claimed they do. Making up imaginary arguments for your opponent doesn't mean you win.
>>201796005That's literally what happened, Morrowind had several back to back disasters, argonians decided to go and avenge their slavery, it went pretty well up until they faced Redoran army and they just kicked the lizards out at least as far back as Mournhold probably even further, so OPs map is inaccurate
Call this one the N word one more time and the grey skin will see what happens.
