>measuring a liquid by weight
>>2031866401ml of water equals 1 gram. So why not measure it by weight?
>posting literal Reddit on 4 chan
>>203186689this
>>203186685https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1fynr5i/went_to_a_beer_festival_with_standardized_cups/The European redditors really thought they got us with this one. I hate redditors but European ones especially.
>it's another 'americans don't understand scales' thread
>I hate redditors but I browse reddit
>>203186775Cool!
>/r/midlyinfuriating
>>203186994what is hard to understand about this?
>>203186640it seems you think "liquids" are tied to a specific unitguess what, it's not, there's a shitload of stuff you can measure on a liquid (mass, volume, density, temperature, turbidity, opacity, conductivity, pH...)
>>203187220You people are so eager to win one over us you will leap at the opportunity to drop simple 6th grade level facts on us. Don't see anyone leaping to teach college level topics. Guess what, we are far more successful and wealthy than Europeans will ever be.
>>203186640Wont beer weigh different
>>203187124the redditor....IS INSIDE THE HOUSE
>>203190878That doesn't matter at all, stupid jeet.
>>203190878
>>203186640A pint's a pound, and I won't hear any of your nonsense
>>203186815>american thinking about europeans againMANY such cases
>>203190878the scale on the cup measures volumehe used a scale because it's easier to pull out a scale and measure the weight of water than carry a measuring cylinder
>>203190878My fucking god. And these type of """people""" are coming in by the thousands.
>>203193136It’s a different compound retard
>>203193286Beer is 99% water retard
>>203190878you can do better than this
>>20319340899% and you got this where? Most beer is around 5% abv
>>203193408https://youtu.be/-fC2oke5MFg?si=gpXIrF6e6T8MD9f_Busch is about %5 heavier than water. The cup would be off by about 12ml, which is an appropriate margin of error for whichever beer they used.
>>203186775That was beautiful
>>203186685Because measuring by weight is a huge pain in the ass. You need a fucking scale. That's probably why you guys use cups for everything in recipes from flour to grated cheese flavored milk-based topping
>>203186640You canPlebbitor is being a retard about it though, he should've just take an actual measuring cup to compare volume directly
>>203194261why? the method he's using is accurate, and he can sum it up neatly in a single photo you're the retard here
>>203194078who doesn't have a scale in their kitchen? and he's not following a recipe, he's showing us the scammy cup
>>203194750>who doesn't have a scale in their kitchen?Me. But when I did, measuring shit with a scale is a major fucking pain in the ass.>and he's not following a recipe, he's showing us the scammy cupHe literally asked why we don't weigh liquids instead of measuring them by volume.The pic in the OP obviously measures it by weight for a reason.
>>203195025you're right, i misreadbut what do you mean pain in the ass? you just put shit like butter on top of it and read
>>203195198>take out the scale, find a plate, set it all up, turn it on, measure, turn it off, put it away, wash the platevs.>2 tablespoon of butter you say? there, it's already in, god bless bless America *claps*
>>203191217>>203191392>>203193136Why so rude
>>203191392SAAAAAAR DO NO REDEEEEM THE STICKIM BEGGING YOU DO NOT REDEEEM DO NOT REDEEEEEEMIM BEGGING YOU SAAR YOU BLOODY FUCK BASTARD FUCK
>>203195430>take out the scale, find a plate, set it all up, turn it on, measure, turn it off, put it away, wash the plate>wash the plateKek you don't know how to use a scale
>>203186775wow
>>203186775very neat
>>203186640What's the problem with this ?
>>203186775That was amazing
>>203191217>>203192192>>203193136xe's right doe, beer has a different density so its volume will be different for any given mass
>>203198848Itll be slightly different, it won't matter. Water isn't even 1g/cm3 exactly I think.
>>203190878>the finishing gravity can vary most beers will have a finishing gravity between 1.006 and 1.030if anything, beer should be slightly heavier
>>203193644>>203198848When they tell you they're selling you 250ml of beer it doesn't matter whether or not it's mass is a gram or a ton you fucking mouthbreathing moron I've been containing myself from stepping into your elaborate bait but this is my limit
>>203198848>xe's right doe, beer has a different density so its volume will be different for any given massI really hope you're just trolling here.He's measuring the volume of the cup itself using water.
our kitchen scale has the option of ml and gram but it's just the same number. and it's a very accurate way to measure the volume of water so i don't see the issuemy cup holds around 20cl and it took me like 3 seconds to figure that one out
>>203190878depends. i have a hydrometer and one beer gravity came out at 1,01. wine is usually around 1 or sometimes lowerto convert gravity to density you do the difficult operation of dividing by 11 ml= ~1 gram, convenient isn't it?
>>203198848you could fill it with concrete and 250ml of concrete would still be 250ml
>>203199477No, this isn't true. A kilogram of steel for example would be heavier that a kilogram of feathers.
>>203199168he's measuring it using grams doe. remember the density formula? if the water weighs 227g and the density of the beer is 1.09x the density of water, then its volume must be smaller for the same amount of mass. QED.
>>203199558What part of your retarded non sequitur can I argue for you to keep spouting such fantastically enlighted words
>>203199558pretending to be retarded isn't trolling, but have your (You)
>>203199632i'm serious. prove me wrong
>>203198848>ameriducation
>>203199477250g of steel would. but concrete is more dense than water, therefore concrete has a smaller volume for the same mass.
>>203199825>Buy cup to measure milliliters >Doesn't measure milliliters correctly The density difference between beer or water is irrelevant for every purpose except in that water has a known density of 1 g/ml and can thus be used as a medium to judge whether or not a milliliter measurement device is accurate.
>>203200040>The density difference between beer or water is irrelevantit's a density difference of almost 10% moron
>>203186640empty volume should be measured in mm3, cm3 or m3.actual content of said volume should be measured in mass.
>>203193628Pure Alcohol itself is 90+% water
>>203194566>the method he's using is accurateYou don't know how much the beer weights>and he can sum it up neatly in a single photo Just do a side-by-side, or a video about pouring the content into a measuring cup
>>203200087Posts like yours make me understand why Americans shoot up their schools. If you don't learn a fucking thing there then you should at least be able to use it as a shooting range.
>>203200087Now look what you made me do, I have to agree with >>203200694 a germ.
>>203190878SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>203200087nowhere the fuck do you get that numberbut even if that was true (it isn't) it's still irrelevantthat shop is supposed to sell 250ml of beer, if 1ml=1gram of water then when you fill that cup up to the 250ml line using water, then the scale would read 250 gramsthe fact it doesn't tells you the 250ml mark that the shop is using to sell their beer is wrong; you're getting scammedif that shop was selling beer by weight (it isn't) and beer had a wildly different density from water (it doesn't) you'd have a point
>>203194078>You need a fucking scaleOh nooooo using a scale what a pain in the asssss placing an object on a scale
>>203201764>but even if that was true (it isn't)retard.>it's still irrelevantsmall differences in density can majorly change the equation.>1ml=1gram of water then when you fill that cup up to the 250ml line using water, then the scale would read 250 gramsbut it's beer remember? 250g it wouldn't be 250ml in beer because it has a higher density than water.you are a fucking retarded brainlet. just go back to high school, i'm begging you.
>>203202697>but it's beer remember?Look at the picture, he is measuring the cup with water, not beer. And just to repeat, he is measuring *the volume of the cup*. The measurement shows that the volume of the cup is not 250ml. The volume of the cup will not change if you put beer in it.
>>203186640You can't use a beer cup to measure water. Beer has bubbles in it that puff it up like a balloon a little bit so you need more of it to make the same volume, so 250ml of beer is more than 250ml of water. This dipshit redditor is crying over nothing
>>203186640Litres is a measure of volume, i.e. cubic metres. A litre aka one cubic metre of water will always way 1kg by definition, that's why he's using a scale to calibrate and check how accurate the markings on the glass are. 250ml of beer has the same volume as 250ml of water because litres are not a measurement of weight, but of volume which is the 3-D area.That's not the problem, the problem is that they made the glass round instead of a cube which makes the markings inaccurate since all the corners got rounded off and a lot of volume was lost in the process.
>>203194750I think until recently most people didn't. Were your grandparents measuring things with an old analog scale when cooking? In the US it didn't become popular to have one until about a decade ago.
>>203203521>so 250ml of beer is more than 250ml of water.What the actual fuck are you talking about. If I have a 250ml cup and I pour it full of something then it will have 250ml of that, it doesn't matter if it's water, beer or piss.
It will make sense for Americans if I explain it like this:Litres are like gallons and grams are like pounds. For water:1 gal = 8.345404452021 lbsThat's 16 cups.Now, 16 cups of beer and 16 cups of water are the same amount of cups, obviously. If you measure out 16 cups of water and turns out it's only, say 7.054792660759 lbs you know that your cups aren't actually full cups, but are instead only 84.53506000000451% of a cup. That means you got ripped off and the cups are too small.
>>203190878all these dumbass seething replies
>>203203735Because beer takes more space than water, that's why you feel more full after drinking it
>>203203839yeah but the bubbles are hollow inside so it cancels out
beer is heavier hence it will be less volume for the same mass
>>203203839>Because beer takes more space than waterThey take the exact same amount of space in this equation which is 250ml or 0,066 gallons.If you go buy a 1 gallon beer keg and a 1 gallon water jug, do you think they would have a different volume?
>>203203984Yeah because the beer is bigger
>>203190878This anon is right. Not sure what the seething is about
>>203190878include me in the 'cap
>>203203997>Yeah because the beer is biggerSo you are saying that you couldn't pour a gallon of beer into the (emptied) 1 gallon water jug?
>>203190878Yes. Beer has more density than tap water though 10% seems too much of a difference. Maybe the scale is badly calibrated as well.
>>20318677510/10 would waste 5min on again
>>203200676the cup is still only 227ml lol, read the op again. the weight of the beer is irrelevant >>203203732>Were your grandparents measuring things with an old analog scale when cooking? yes, my mom still uses it lol
>>203204076It would spill
>>203186640Most likely the retards who made these cups measured the location of the 250ml mark from the outside bottom of the cup instead of the inside bottom. This kind of shit happens a lot when you cheap out and get your measuring tools from some third world factory with no standards and with workers with IQs of 60.
>silvercrest
he just put the glass on his lidl scale and pressed tare why would he do that? you want exactly 250 ml of beer you have to measure the glass along which has a purchase cost and a maintenance cost as well, otherwise i suggest you bring your own glass or try to catch beer with your hands
