>haha beating my kids is so funny libs btfo'd why are americans like this?
>>203283160German (prussian) blood
Nordics have no sense of humor
>>203283160A little bit of spanking won't do kids any harm.
>>203283160My dad would punch me and hit me with the metal piece of the belt
americans don't love their kids
>>203283160Not getting spanked it why white children are out of control
>hitting your kids is.......LE BAD!
>>203283272Shut the fuck up pablo
>>203283279yes its nigger tier behavior
>>203283183My grandma was prussian from the east and she used to spank her children and grandchildren a lotThere's something wrong with prussians
>>203283423She spanked her grandchildren because they were mulatto
>>203283272so true, i'm sick of all these white kids committing rapes and doing drive-bys
>>203283447Why did he fucked the negrita then?
>>203283447She used to spank all her white children and grandchildren thoI think she only had 2 or 3 brown grandchildren
>brutalizing your children to instill fear and an unquestioning respect for authority thirdie governments>brutalizing citizenry to instill fear and an unquestioning fear of authority
>>203283347No? It was common practice across Europe until like ten-fifteen years ago
>>203283160if you need to do anything besides raise your voice then your kids do not respect youand if not even your own children find you worthy of respect...
Using a wooden thing is too much but one or two spankings with your hand aren't bad>>203283687You've clearly never interacted with children
>>203283632From what I've read, the worst thing about it were the elaborate and humiliating rituals that came with the beatings. Nothing wrong with a quick slap in the right context but forcing your kids to parade in front of you and thank you for the whoopass or letting other people beat your sprogs? Dunno mate
>>203283160my parents beat me (emotionally)
>>203283632not here, maybe in germany it was
>>203283160Americans are mentally ill, low IQ, and behave like animals.
My parents spanked me and now i watch vtubers
>>203283632Only yugos beat their kids here, even 15 years ago. I wouldn't get it but I guess it's my white privilege speaking
>>203284003Do you have ocd?
Still mad at my dad for washing my mouth out with soap once when I was a kid. Like seriously, what the fuck? I don't have kids yet, but I can't imagine being so angry that I would force harmful chemicals into their mouth just for saying a swear word. Worst part is I was like 4 years old at the time, I was a little too young to know what I was saying.
>>203284179that's vile
>>203283160American boomers were mentally ill degenerates and now their children exercise the same behaviour.
>>203283160American kids absolutely should be beaten every single day.Maybe in 2-3 generations they would stop being so fucked up.
The only place where I could picture is in a BDSM dungeon... Not the best place to disciplinary your children...
>>203283298Pablos get shoes thrown at them which is why they can’t shut the fuck up about “le chanclas XD”
>>203283160Corporal punishment has some negative side effects, but it reduces narcissistic tendencies. This country is already too narcissistic as is.
>>203283632You know what else was common practice? not washing your ass and trying to pray away maladies
>>203283160my father used to slap me when I was a kid now I hit him in the head with a fist
>>203284632Does it? I was under the impression that boomers would getting beaten all the time as kids and that didn't stop them from being narcissistic.
>>203284882The circle of life
>>203283160Dad used to put a knee on my chest and call me a lifeless loser while slapping me in the face, I was 10-11 when this begun. I don’t think this made me a better person at all
>>203284929The real problem stems from inconsistently applied beatings. The kid doesn't learn that parenting is hard and tiring, all he learns is that there's no external set of rules but only what the strongest person in the room can enforce on others
>>203283601>gibs me datfirstie kids>gibs me datfirstie govsreally makes you think
>>203284765vgh... we ned to retvrn...
>>203283222Fuck you for joking about this shit. I hope you kill yourself. >>203284179Your dad is a piece of shit. >>203285005I will kill your dad mate.
>Dad never hit you>Never get hit past the age of 6>End up on 4trans
wahts wrong with beating anglo spawns? Its not like they become human even if you don't beat them.
>>203285256*slaps you across your bitch mouth*
>>203284117actually yes i do i have pure O
>>203285311based kill that nigga
>>203284179>I don't have kids yetWell I'm never going to have kids because I have no idea how to raise them properly. The way I was raised was clearly not right, and I wouldn't wish that upon any kid. I've also seen how spoiled kids turn out, and that's not the way either. I don't even want to have kids anyway.
>>203285244>Your dad is a piece of shit.Here's the thing: he wasn't. Yeah he would spank me or yell sometimes but all in all he was a really good dad that cared deeply about me and my siblings. And when I say "cared deeply," I mean it was pretty much ALL he cared about. For every bad memory I have ten good ones. His dad, however, absolutely was a piece of shit. He would get angry and leave the family for days on end, and given that it was the 60's/70's I guarantee you my dad took some real beatings from my grandpa back then. Looking back, I think he was probably a vastly improved product over my grandpa.
>>203283160In highschool I made a spanking paddle in woodshop and inscribed the words "THE BOARD OF EDUCATION" and gave it to my favorite teacher.Corporal punishment has at least a symbolic sentiment in America, it's to parents/teachers what the sword and the scale is to the law.
>>203285397>Well I'm never going to have kidsTo each their own, but you might reconsider (see below)>The way I was raised was clearly not right, and I wouldn't wish that upon any kidI think that a lot of parents are marginal improvements over their own parents. Both of my parents didn't have great childhoods, but I can promise you that they were way better parents for me. Hopefully I get to have kids one day, because I know that I will be an improvement over them. Your upbringing doesn't have to define you.
>>203285005I would bet the farm that your family are immigrants. Swedes don't do this kinda shit lol
>>203285536>He would get angry and leave the family for days on endThis sounds like your grandpa might have been an improvement over your great grandpa too. If he left when he got angry it was probably so he wouldn't hurt anyone.
>>203285551That's really weird
>>203285610That's how it is supposed to be, and that's what I would aspire to do if I ever wanted kids.>Your upbringing doesn't have to define you.Certainly, but I actually never felt that the need to have kids. That might change, but still, I swore I would not repeat the mistakes of my parents, the first of which was having kids without the necessary financial stability, and I would never have kids in a shithole of a country like mine because I wouldn't want them to grow up in this culture.
>>203283632Not 10-15 years ago but it wasnt THAT long ago that it was common in western Europe aswell. Even in one of Astrid Lindgrens stories Emil in Lönneberga it was a common trope that the father beat Emil
>>203283160There is nothing wrong with beating your children, if anything only my mother would beat me up but I couldn't take her seriously past the adolescence
>>203285729Idk I thought it was funny. It's very common for teachers I know to get very frustrated with students that are rowdy and some will sort of make mock threats in good humor. As a result I viewed giving them a specialty teachers paddle was sort of like a symbolic gift that I respected them and disliked when students would disrupt their class. He was my sort of young chuddy european history teacher.
>>203285962Your mother can beat me if she wants, does she look like Valentina Nappi?
>>203286013No also she's over 60 now
>>203283160My mother spanked me and now I'm into femdom. Not sure if they are correlated
>>203286129In my mind, spanking is a dad thing. Can't imagine moms doing that.
>>203286142My dad kinda just didn't care, in fakt after around middle school we basically just stopped talking
what's it with white zoomers promoting brown behaviour as trad and based
>>203286196he realized you're a useless femdomfag and wasted seed
>>203286297If he actually realized anything, he would've stopped my mom from doing allat
>>203286457stand up for yourself you wuss
>>203286493By the time I got big enough to do dat, the spanking already stopped. This is the case for most kids who get beat, retard, its common sense
>>203285551was your teacher hot and did she use it on you?
>>203286297>>203286493Look, an Albanian
>>203288338look, a...ummm...
Beating your kids does absolutely nothing. They just learn to hide their bad behavior better. It's still slightly better than just letting them do whatever they want and grow into piece of shit entitled adults. There needs to be control, but beatings ain't it.
>>203283160Kinky
I was beaten when I was a kid and it taught me that violence is a solution.
>>203284179>harmful chemicalsIts soap retard. There's nothing harmful about it.
>>203283272Yeah, because black people are famously calm and peaceful.
>>203290892Sure, go eat a block of soap if you really think that.
Does it significantly hurt, or is it more the humiliation? If it might make someone cry and scream and stuff, then it's wonderfully fucked up.
>>203283160Some of you people obviously weren't beaten enough, if you're reacting like this. Sad cases of emasculated men.
>>203283160Child abusers should be kicked repeatedly in the shins with a steel toed boot
What are the dynamics like afterwards? It's okay mom for beating the shit out of me, I understand now that it was warranted. I love you.Might work with messed-up kids I guess. Or get really kinky.
>>203283160>buying a specifically produced kid-beaterConsumerist culture at its peak. Everything must be a product. Everything must be bought. When I was a kid, I was beaten with dog leash or with a belt.
>>203286129but i thought all white kids get told to go to their room and being grounded after committing a sin?
>>203291802why shouldn't a shithead be beaten for being a shithead? if they aren't they won't realize their actions have consequences
>>203292469They should be beaten up by other kids, not by their guardians
>>203292522how are kids supposed to punish a bully in most cases? their parents need to force some sense into their head
>>203283160my dad beat me as a kid and I'm gay now
>>203292469Beating people up tends to make them resent you I guess, and if you can't realistically do anything about it, you're bound to get some interesting mental issues playing out.Might work on some, but I'd be plotting revenge right now.
>>203284179what a fucking subhuman
>>203292573the kid can plot revenge if he wants, as long as he submits to authority and stops acting out
>>203283272there are barely any white kids left in los estados unidos anyway, unless you count the jews as white
>>203292646If feeling like the big man is your goal I guess.
>>203292561Beating your kid is how you create a bully
>>203292730you're confusing cause and effect>>203292695the goal is to make the kid behave
I really think some basic, non abusive physical discipline does help younger kids. You guys don't understand that they're basically animals at that age and will push every boundary possible. They sense and capitalize on your weakness much like dogs in a pack. Some are worse than others, and the worst need to be corrected early. It should be a last resort but also an option.
>>203292756Could work. Think it's usually counterproductive if you want them to be happy and successful more generally.
>>203283160In my school I have seen with my own eyes parents beating the shit out of their kids in front of whole class.
>>203292840Well it is Pakistan
>>203292799happiness is in your own handswhen talking in cases of only disciplinary punishment, you wouldn't get it without having done something that if you were an adult would have probably got you arrestedit's just cops for kidsnot talking about smashing the kid's head in with a baseball bat because he didn't get you a beer here
>>203283160Yaoi paddle? Why?
>>203292797Kids should listen to their parents, but they shouldnt be forced to listen because they are afraid of themIf you beat your kid, if they dont have any very close family connection like siblings or an uncle or grandparents, they'll end up having a growing feeling of loneliness. Its just a shitty way to deal with kids if you want your kids to become good humans
>>203284882Based
>>203292913I know it sounds mean to say: but yes they should. Respect is a synthesis of fear and love, not just love. If they think you are capable of nothing they won't respect you. One of the worst things we've done this century is pretend like fear, anxiety aren't corrective responses that produce positive outcomes.Is it good to not be afraid of heights, anon? To not be afraid of poverty, or dark alleyways? Fear in of itself isn't some evil thing. If a child doesn't fear you they will walk all over you and that is bad for their future as they will then learn nothing from the parent, which invalidates the entire purpose of the role.
>>203292840In front of the whole class? Brutal.
>>203293013I didnt say fear is a bad thing. I said fear is a bad thing if its towards your parents, the supposedly two people who love you the most and protect you the most
>>203292866literal dung hole that we live in now that i am an adult i can't even imagine how a fucking 40 year old nigger can beat his 13 year old son in front of whole class.
>>203293013And this is why fathers are so important, they encourage a natural baseline amount of fear. Kids start life off slightly afraid of their father, you can see it in babies just starting to walk even. The larger size, deeper voice, greater seriousness, natural disciplinarians. I have two small kids of my own and I barely had to do anything for them to hang all over and bully mom while naturally respecting me. I want them to feel safe with me but also listen and do what I say, it's critical they do so or else they won't be prepared for real life which mandates serious things.
>>203293013that fear turns into resentment and hate which is why boomers are all dying alone in retirement homes where they get beaten by African American gentlemenultimately it comes full circle
>>203293077If you can't fear your parents, how can anyone else? How can anyone feel safe with a weak, flabby, clown of a dad that they don't even respect? Think about it. Why do women seek out dangerous, masculine, men? Because by being under the protection and possession of men being worthy of fear, you know they can protect you from the rest of the world. Does your dog feel any less safe with you because you have to yell at or correct them sometimes? No in fact, it can make them feel safer because they know you are a serious individual.Discipline isn't arbitrary at all, people who act like getting punished for an obviously wrong thing somehow creates a constantly fearful, beaten down child are terribly off. I would actually argue it ultimately made me more confident in my own dad's status. It's not like he did it for fun or at random.
>>203284245>>203285244>>203292630LOL I knew it was bad but I wasn't expecting this kind of response. He's a good dude, just has a few faults, as we all do. "Honor thy father," as they say.
>>203293188Notice how your example was to yell at the dog. In reality, you should say kick the dog, because thats what you're suggesting for a human child, who is FAR more intelligent than a dog
>>203293169I have never seen anything more hateful towards a parent than the spoiled child. Without fail. In my own family of 4 siblings, the youngest, who got the least discipline, has been the most avidly hateful and critical of them. My single mothered friends would routinely scream at their moms. I don't buy this bs one bit.
>>203293075yeah man. that was fucking brutal. pakistani parents are fucking psychos man. i remember one instance in particular. my class fellow's dad was buff meatheaded retard. our nigger female teacher called his dad for some really minor mistake. when his dad heard the complain he slapped the kid in the back with full power and then on his face. i remember him begging his dad his that he will behave and sobbing so hard.
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>>203293223Yell at, smack, whatever. A child becomes smarter past age 4 or 5 but the parallels in how they think are striking because they're operating at a very basic, cause and effect level. Which is why I said yes, physical punishment is naturally phased out as they grow up and can be corrected in more abstract ways, like groundings, but the foundation of respect has to be established early.
>>203283160only mothers need to hit their kids. a father yelling at his children is more than enough. my father never laid a hand on me but i still fear his wrath to this day
>>203293308No. You are being disingenuous.You would not kick your dog, but you would smack your human child.
>>203293084Beating culture used to be huge here too but it all disappeared. Up until the 00's middle/high school teachers would make kids they don't like plank in front of the class and beat them with a bat. And the popular kid in class will beat the shit out of some poor kid and take his money. We also have a private afterschool, same here. Luckily for us it all got eradicated
>>203293084my mom used to do that to me on the bus, she would also randomly say racist stuff to black and nafrisi thought she was mentally ill but she was just a severe alcoholic
>>203293334Not to sound like a woman but yelling at your kids is almost just as bad as hitting them imho
>>203293339I would and do smack my dog and a child if I had to
The reality is the followingIf you cant get your kid to listen to you without yelling at them or hitting them, they wont show any better behaviour towards others in other facets of life. If your goal is to improve the behaviour of the child, making them understand why what they are doing is wrong is the much much superior way. The way to correct behavioural issues is never to physically abuse a kid
>>203293355schools are the nest of satan >>203293371fuck i am sorry anon
>>203293270ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION I NEED MY KINK SATiSFYED
>>203293418You smack your dog?
>>203293373some children need to be disciplined. i know i did. not all kids do, like my sisters didn’t for example. but when my father would yell at me, the difference was that it was out of a desire to straighten me out, not to inflict wicked punishment for no reason at all. i adore my father, he was a good man who made the best decisions in life. my father is an old irish-catholic man who was regularly beaten horribly by his own father yet later chose to never lay a finger on any of his own children. i came out fairly well.
>>203293445More like a fantasy. You want to reason with a 5 year old? Lmfao. Have you ever talked to one?
>>203293494Sure, he's wild
>person with the absolute worst most spoiled out of control kids you know>"so yeah I'm doing this thing called gentle parenting where I talk to them instead I heard it prepares them better for life"
>>203283272only brown children need to be spanked because they're naturally malicious, and this evil can only be beaten out of them. White and asian people have already surpassed this level of humanity. We don't require beatings to behave.
>>203293535Women are mentally 5 year old their entire life, they NEED correction on a regular basis too
Why do chuds love child abuse?
>>203293676It's because it's the only time they really feel powerful.
>>203293488ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>203293613subhuman the most spoiled and hard dudes i know were hated by their parents, society and teachers. getting beating without showing any pain was a sign of honor and strength for them. to prove to other boys that they can take it. and they were addicted to it. and they are still addicted to it.
>>203293673That’s why single mothers are the ones trying to “reason” with a five year old. Just take something away from them or do a light spanking. Niggers in this thread act like spanking means a brutal beating.
>>203293497most fathers can get away with just yelling. Even without any physical fear, it is usually enough to listen.
>>203293483Really the root cause was the military. Hazing used to be crazy there until 2011 or something. Doesn't help we used to be under an authoratarian junta dictatorship
>>203293746>Just take something away from themThis. Punishment doesn't have to be severe it just has to be consistently enforced.
>>203293818>pic related holy shit man so korean men were """hardened""" in the last decade and now most of them are effeminate k-pop types?
>>203283160The libs have a dildo with the same quote
>>203283839>You've clearly never interacted with childrenCope
>>203293373you are literally a woman
>>203293535My brother has two kids, one is now five and the other one is four. He's never needed to beat them, they just listen to him. I've spent a ton of time with them too, they can get a bit wild sometimes like kids do but you have some serious case of gorilla brain if your response is to start assaulting a child>it's not assault I'm just beating them a little
>>203294440My theory is that kids are people and people have different personalities.I met very obedient kids and also kids who had no respect for nobody and would not listen to anybody, not even their own parents. How would you deal with such a situation?
>>203294052Yep, picrel is the conscript police which was notoriously violent because the protests were also violent because well, the protestors also got "hardened" in the military.
>>203294562ummmm, just like talk to them about their feelings broall kids are innocent little angels, delicate flowers with pure souls
>>203294562Take away their toys until they behave.
>>203294690OK you take their toys away. They throw a tantrum and start destroying all your shit.Now what?
>>203294727The more they act out, the longer they go without their toys. Also, LMAO at thinking a 4 year old can cause serious damage.
>>203294727Idk, but do you really think the answer is to slap them until they shut up?
>>203294648damn, i had no idea about this side of korea
>>203293806yeah, that’s the thing. my respect for my father comes from many of his attributes, but one of the core things was fear of discipline. him being a hot-headed son of an Irish immigrant is one of those things. he is a great man who i still look up to in my mid-20s and i do believe his firm but strong verbal discipline carried my respect for him a lot further.
>>203294562Those kids can get absolutely wild sometimes. I was actually going to mention that, the ex broke up with him so now they share custody. When the kids come back from the mother, they're totally out of control. Then on like day two or three of staying with my brother, they're perfectly chill and just play together etc., so I just have to imagine that someone is doing something horribly wrong. And my bro even avoids getting really angry at them. If he actually raises his voice then they seem to kinda freak out like dang I guess I really did misbehave. So I'm inclined to think that you can maintain authority even without hitting them or stuff. Just be consistent and firm. The last time we hung out, he was telling me how the mother is planning to or already has some weird walking leash for the younger one, because he just "won't listen" and keeps running around when they go to the store or somewhere. And he was telling me this while we were walking around in a mall with the kids and they were behaving perfectly well, nobody was running anywhere. It's honestly pretty amazing, they're like different people depending on who they've stayed with
>>203283160>>203283632When I behaved really, really badly and my parents had no other way of disciplining me, my dad spanked my bare ass. It hurt for a second, but there was no risk of permanent damage. I think it is fine if used very rarely.
that paddle needs holes to cut into the air resistance
>>203294893Shit was crazy in the Army. Until in 2011 when some bullied guy an hero'd his platoon. Hazing gradually disappeared. Bullying in school also disappeared around that time period because the new generation decided playing LoL is cooler than beating each other. The protests also died out. Last year some chud performed mass-stabbing so being aggressive in public is frowned upon. A lot of the guys in the 20's are incels but they just say mean shit online and never take it outside.
>>203293727I think it's safe to say your bronze age country doesn't work the same way mine does since "gentle parenting" in Pakistan means only 50 lashes a day not 100
>>203295039>And my bro even avoids getting really angry at themAlso this applies to me as well I suppose, of course since I'm just an uncle and they're not my kids so I don't want to get super angry and scary at them. The other week I had to look after them for a bit, then at some point they get a bit out of control when playing and one of them started like kicking the other for some reason. At first I tried saying something and pulling him back but he kept doing it, I got kinda pissed so I just picked him up and hauled him to his bed. Then he seemed to just instantly calm down, again since they're definitely not used to seeing me angry so it must have been pretty freaky for him, and he must have realized that he messed up. But yeah that's my experience. Didn't need to yell or do anything physical except carry him
>>203294440It is case by case, some are more docile and listen to basic discipline and some don't. But yours is not the general case, everybody whines about all of these loud out of control tantrum kids in modern society and yet don't take a step back to wonder why it's on the rise.
>>203283160Do not overestimate the effect of corporal punishment on children.I have been slapped by my parents a few times and locked on the balcony, but it hasn't traumatised me and I don't hate my parents.Those are fond memories for me.My parents and grandfather laugh and talk about being beaten and kicked by teachers and parents when they were children.In their time corporal punishment was more extreme and common.
>>203295341Lack of discipline definitely, but there's just so many ways and steps to keep discipline before you "need" to start beating them. A lot of parents seem to be just really lazy and just hand them a tablet to poke at, so that they can keep browsing their phone. Whenever I'm hanging out with them, it feels pretty exhausting, you're constantly alert and observing that they don't do something weird, in which case you just instantly step in to tell them nah man don't do that. You keep doing that and they do learn what they're allowed and not allowed to do, and things are more peaceful in the long run. They'll definitely throw tantrums like kids do, one time recently the 4yo was told to clean up before eating i.e. pick up like three toys from the floor, he just starts bawling for like 10 minutes. We just waited it out and then eventually he cleaned them up and came to eat. They're not even my kids and those tantrum cries have become like white noise even to me lol. You just start noticing when they're tired or hungry when they suddenly everything in life is horrible and they just start crying for no reason
>>203295039>>203295331That is very nice to hear. I hope I might also be able to command authority like that when I have my own.
>>203283160amerimutts literally mutilate their children the second they pop into the world, a paddle should be no surprise
>>203283160Damn i wish i had a trans son now just so i could hit him with this
>>203283632Look up Schwarze Pädagogik
>>203296986I think the way it works is that you're just commanding that authority all the time, just constantly paying attention and stopping them from doing dumb shit instead of first ignoring them and then just snapping. Small kids definitely require a -lot- of guidance constantly, on one hand it's fun doing stuff with them and watching them do things, but on the other hand my brain is always totally fried afterwards. Even if you're seemingly just relaxing on a sofa for a bit, you're still just on alert listening and expecting something to happen. But in the long run it pays off when they just start understanding what they can and can't do, mostly
>>203283160> beating my kids is so funny True. Beating kids is based. Otherwise, they become homosexuals (turned into libs)
>>203292797There's a difference between spanking or slapping your kids when they're very young and they almost get turned into a puddle by a car after they ran out to the middle of a road and screaming at and beating your teenager kids for getting bad grades. I think the latter is incredibly harmful and more than likely to fuck up your kids for the rest of their lives.
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>>203283160If you dont beat your kids they turn into redditors
>>203283160Angloid blood makes them hate their kin
>>203283279>>203283347Ok let me just say it's okay to give your children a correction, but abrasive corrections could lead to developmental issues and people who abuse their children usually have developmental issues themselves.Kids become smart fast so you want to use their intelligence to your advantage criticizing them for being illogical, trying to get them to think for themselves.Note that this only works for white children (obvious irish not included)
>>203283272i'm white (zoomer) and i was spanked with a wooden spoon thougheveri'm on 4chan so needless to say like you i didn't turn out right
>>203283160Lmao this looks so gay because you know the parents won't be hitting the kids with their full strength and only give light taps on the ass with the paddleShould've posted a belt or something
>>203283160SAAAAAR
>>203298387tee es em tee
>>203285244WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME, BOY?GET YOUR FAGGOT ASS BACK HEREYOU'RE FUCKING DEADTELL YOUR MOTHER ABOUT THIS AND YOU'LL WISH THE NEXT ONE WAS THIS EASY
>>203283272They're going to develop daddy issues and a fixation on ass.
>>203283160hurting kids to make them behave just leads to shit like pic rel
>>203283160my dad only had to hit me once
>>203293721shan't
>>203283160>that selfie>twitter account>uses emojis ironicallypeople like this need to die, ASAP
>>203293633>asian people have already surpassed this level of humanity. We don't require beatings to behaveLel
