Turns out they hate the fact they're slavs. This is the only explanation for their hatred of all other slavs. They don't want to be slavs
>>204451415I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Slavs, is in fact, Wends and Slavs, or as I've recently taken to calling it, masterrace and slavshits. Slavs are not an ethnic group unto itself, but merely a linguistic group made useful by based Wends, a vital group thanks to which Europe exists.Many /int/ users mistake Wends for Slavs every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the Wendish group is often called "Slavs", and many of /int/olerants are not aware that it is basically the Wends, a Central European masterrace.There really are Slavs, but Wends are no part of it. Wends are different, much more civilized and stuff. This is essential for you to realize. Slavs often include Wends, but basically it's Slavs with Wends added. All the so called "Western Slavs" are really Wends
>>204451415We're Polish not Slavic.
>>204451415we can be Slavs if Russians are not Slavsif Russians are Slavs then we are not Slavs but something else (whatever it might be)simple
>>204451481>>204451478name of language family status?
>>204451527is this also how you chose your sect of Christianity, and your script?
>they hate the fact they're slavswrong>hatred of all other slavswrong>they don't want to be slavswronganything else?
>>204451584we got baptized before Russia so no
>>204451415it's because they hate balkanloids and russians and don't want to get grouped with us
>>204451595your posters in other threads disagree with youyou should hash it out with your slavbros>>204451719but balkanbros are basedwhy would poles hate them?some are even catholic
>>204451536Indo-European
do eastern european poles believe they are better than the balkans or something
>>204451719>they hate balkanloidswe don't>russians we do>>204451737>why would poles hate them?we don't
>>204451415I'm actually sarmatian
>>204451737They just see us all as backwards and primitive (and subservent to Russia in the case of Serbia). And honestly I don't blame them too much, considering our ugly 90s chimpouts
>>204451809you do hate themsee>>204446195>>204446330thread:>>204445879
>>204451800we don't care about the balkans, all we know from this region is Croatia which we occupy for the whole summer season and then we forget about existence of this whole region until next summer most Poles would be probably surprised if you told them that let's say Macedonians speak a Slavic language, for most boomers here Yugoslavia still exists
>>204451857where do you see hate there? just by saying that someone isn't Slavic doesn't mean you hate him lmao, if I told you that Germans aren't Slavs would it be a sign of hatred too?
>>204451888weren't you best friends with the yugobros?or are you jealous because they had Tito and you had .. (did you have someone to stand up to russia/stalin like they did?)
>>204451926>heh they're not slavs like us they're just turks or balkanoids (pejorative intent in statement)they are slavs like you, you are trying to demean them.
>>204451747Surprisingly one of the closest to the old form is Sanskrit. And the closest to Sanskrit are Lithuanian and Russian languages.
>>204451942>weren't you best friends with the yugobros?no? all Warsaw Pact countries had at best strained and at worst almost hostile relations with Yugoslavia, because it wasn't part of the Warsaw Pact and Soviets accused it of collaborating with NATO and hated Tito>or are you jealous because they had Tito and you had in a sense surely we were jealous because Yugoslavia was much wealthier and more developed than any other Slavic country, vacations in Yugoslavia were the greatest prize an average Warsaw Pact citizen could have ever got for some extra achievements (only in the periods of detente between WP and Yugoslavia of course) but it still doesn't matter for their ethnic origin, they're just not genetically Slavic
>>204452156slavic is a language group, if you speak a language language as a nation you are a slavic nation. it is not an ethnic group.
>>204451737>your posters in other threads disagree with youI guess they're stupid thenwe're so slavic that we don't even think about it
>>204452186> if you speak a language language as a nation you are a slavic nationwe don't see it the same way hereyou cannot look like a Turk or like a Mongol to be considered a Slav here
>>204452330they disagree with you not hating all other slavs anon
>>204452356this is just cope because you don't like your family.I did not realize Poland was in denial.
>>204451536Wendish is a language family including Polish, Kashubian, Czech, Slovak, the Sorbian languages (Upper Sorbian & Lower Sorbian) and extinct languages (Polabian).
>>204452186>>204452356This, no one considers Lipka Tartars (or Polish Jews, or Polish Gipsies, etc) as ethnic Poles, even if they look like pic rel.Not really exclusive just to us. Look into Hazara Mongols in Turkestan.
>>204452496Source?All slavs are outshoot of balts who split off 3500 years ago and mutted up with steppeniggers. No such group as wends.
>>204452396we just don't feel anything in common with them, doesn't mean we dislike themi feel closer to a Lithuanian or a Hungarian than to a Serb or Russian
>>204452528>No such group as wends.there is, read about Vistula Venetiwhich doesn't disprove your theory, simply Slavs got separated from Balts way before they started dividing themselves into smaller groups/tribes
>>204452546Slavs are language groupYou feel closer to us or Hungarians cause of shared religion and history, doesn't make you a non slav.
>>204452496>Polish (endonym: język polski, [ˈjɛ̃zɘk ˈpɔlskʲi] , polszczyzna [pɔlˈʂt͡ʂɘzna] or simply polski, [ˈpɔlskʲi] ) is a West Slavic language of the Lechitic group within the Indo-European language family written in the Latin script.>slavicSlavic, not "wendish"You will not deny your brothers.
>>204452546Facts don't care about your feelings.
>>204451584Poles started writing down their language in the Latin script before the propagation of the Cyrillic script outside of Bulgaria, and before the conception of the Russian people. Poles existed several centuries before Russians. Poles chose Catholicism before Russians ever existed as a distinct nation, much less chose Orthodoxy.
>>204452595>Lechitic Key word
>>204452584>Slavs are language groupso you mean if Indians or Kenyans speak English, they magically become Germanic people?
>>204452696A cope word. The family is Slavic, with the other two big families, Germanic and Latin.
>>204452727No it's a one that scientist (german ones among them) came up with >The Lechitic (or Lekhitic) languages are a language subgroup consisting of Polish and several other languages and dialects that were once spoken in the area that is now Poland and eastern Germany
>>204452528Wendish is a synonym of "West Slavic" that dates back to the Classical Era. Furthermore, the language family of Polish could be further narrowed down to the Lechitic branch of Wendish languages.I recommend that you read this book to understand more about the origins of the term "Wend".
>>204452713Kenyans or Indians didn't originate from proto-slavs though
>>204452595See >>204452855Also, I have nothing to deny. I'm not a Pole (yet).
>>204452648I don't try to say why you hadn't chosen Cyrrilic. But I want to ask about this particularly:>Poles started writing down their language in the Latin script before the propagation of the Cyrillic script outside of Bulgaria, and before the conception of the Russian people.Can you elaborate please? First written forms of Russian language are from 10th century and they were in Cyrillic and Glagolitic.Wiki says that the first written record of Polish language is "Ex commisso nobis" from 1136.
>they've got their entire schizo headcanon for why they're not at all related to their slavic brothers>even the diaspora in canada shill it, despite not being able to speak it>>204452806Language family Indo-EuropeanBalto-SlavicSlavicWest SlavicLechiticPolishIt's a subsetsee "Slavic" up there? 2 above """Lechitic"""?You're still slavs.
>>204452933The coin of Mesco I in Knaanic would probably be the earliest one.
>>204452855I can't tell who Poles even larp as nowadays anymore. Are they slavs, wends, sarmatians, scythians, slavic speaking Germans, lost tribe of Israel or some other group of people they larped as historically? Maybe they've actually originated from Klingon?I know we larped as le vikings (which has a grain of truth), Romans and Goths, but even we think it's a bit much
>>204452933>Russian language are from 10th centuryThose were Ruthenians. Russians didn't exist until the 13th century.
>>204452955>they've got their entire schizo headcanon for why they're not at all related to their slavic brothersLook it up some of the "headcanon" creators are professors from goymoney, not only Poland. I don't think you have any arguments against those educated people because you're work break bathroom masturbator diploma dosn't do much here.
>>204452999We are the sons of Yakub
>>204452955Well, in that case Poles can larp as Germanics or celts, since balto-slavic and Germano-celtic groups had same ancestor
>>204452855Wends is some culture that predates Slavic. But most of the Slavs were called like that.That's why Finns call Russians Venäjä for example.>>204453006Oh... That's what behind your logic...
>>204452999By language family, Poles are Wends. Genetically, Poles do have origins in those other groups.
>>204451415Ummm, we're not slavix, we're Sarmatian (Iranix)read a book sweaty
Wait till you hear who discovered america
>>204453051>That's why Finns call Russians Venäjä for example.Correct. And in English, we call West Slavs "Wends", but it wouldn't make sense to call Russians that. "Wends" is understood to mean West Slavs.
>>204453060>By language family, Poles are Wends. Slavs*Edit wikipedia to correct it otherwise.You can't, because you are wrong, and they will ban you.
It is sad that germany our son disrespects us so
>>204453153Slavic is a broader language family, as Balto-Slavic is of Slavic, and as Indo-European is of Balto-Slavic. The fact still remains that Polish is in different language families from Russian, including Wendish, and more narrowly, Lechitic.
>>204453213That doesn't matter. We group europeans into 3 major categories by language, Germanic, Latin and Slavic, because that accounts for the vast majority of people.You are not permitted to be special snowflakes just because "i don't like russia"
This isn't the HRE here. We are drawing maps and we are drawing them as clean as we can.For europe that means the big 3x2>Slavic, Germanic, Latin>Orthodox, Protestant, CatholicWith this we can obtain ideal splits and THEN dissect down.
>>204453253It does matter. You can't pretend that these language families don't exist because it's convenient.>You are not permitted to be special snowflakes just because "i don't like russia"This isn't about me. I'm not Polish. See DNA test: >>204452900Poland is geographically and culturally Central European, and has more in common culturally with Germany than with Russia, and almost all ongoing cultural similarities shared with Russia are newer than those shared with Germany. But you're not ready for that conversation yet.
>>204453306>We are drawing maps and we are drawing them as clean as we can.Just like we did with the Middle East and Africa.
>>204453253>WeBathroom masturbators?? You're not anyone to decide or make statements.Lmao
>>204453355just because it's inconvenient that the overarching language family, the same level at which we split germanic and latin, contains people you don't like, doesn't change linguistic fact.very ironic that west slavs are the ones so desperate to balkanize their language family
>>204453213It's like I would say that we're not Slavic, because we're East-Slavic branch.Besides your language doesn't have as large distance as the distance between Slavic and Baltic languages.
>>204453407*taps wikipedia article*
>>204453532oh my word it's there in the polish one too!https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%99zyk_polskiyou can see yourself! You're slavic!Klasyfikacja genetycznaJęzyki indoeuropejskieJęzyki bałtosłowiańskieJęzyki słowiańskieJęzyki zachodniosłowiańskieJęzyki lechickieJęzyk polski
>>204453532West slavic and lechitic too
>>204453592Which are under... which heading?
>>204453568>wikipedia is the ultimate oracle of truth
>>204453522Polish is in the broader Slavic language family, and they are culturally distinct from East Slavs and South Slavs. Categorizing Poles as Wendish paints a sufficiently clear image of their culture and history.>yourOnce again, I am not Polish.>>204453568This classification includes the language families Wendish and the narrower Lechitic.
>>204453674Try and edit it if you're so right.It's the free wikipedia that anyone can add to or correct!
>>204453755>and they are culturally distinct from East Slavs and South Slavs. Categorizing Poles as Wendish paints a sufficiently clear image of their culture and history.Irrelevant. Stricken from the record.Linguistics is purely about Language.They are slavs.
>>204453790Please elaborate on how it is "irrelevant".
>>204453755>Once again, I am not Polish.I know, sorry.>and they are culturally distinct from East SlavsYes, but not on the big gap. And East Slavs are culturally distinct from South Slavs. What else?
>>204453820Culture and "I don't like them" is not a part of Language. We can't have every special snowflake saying they're different. It balkanizes our nice system. What if anglos started saying "achktaully we don't speak a germanic language we speak an anglo-frisian/anglic language"we don't allow that, why would we allow poland to get away with it?
>>204453757I'm still developing my theory, but I will when it's complete
>>204453824>And East Slavs are culturally distinct from South Slavs. What else?They are. No one is denying this.
>>204453893Good luck! You can start with the polish wikipedia, they should be the most amenable to your "but i dont want to be a slav" mindset.
>>204453925Good idea
>>204453890Why is the categorization of Slavic as a Wendish language unclean? How is a fact less clean than another fact? Why are Balts excluded from your "clean categorization" of Europeans?
>>204454033Because it's the Big Three.Maps must be painted with as few colors as possible.
>>204454116We have more than 3 colours.
>>204452886they originated from proto-humans, so?
>>204451415I *LOVE* my Slovakian, Croatian, Slovenian and Czech brothers and sisters. Other slavs should also allowed to live as long as they don't associate with me.
>>204454202Look what you did, all his work down the shitter
>>204454202>>204454525bzzzt, sorry, your special snowflake application has been DENIED.Every map groups you into the Slavic category and Wikipedia shall eternally do so as wellWe're not adding extra colors to an already busy map just because russia hurt polands feelings
>>204454202There's plenty of colors on this map, because there are languages we can't cover in Slav/Germanic/Romance, such as Finnish, Basque, Greek, Hungarian, etc etc. We're running out of colors.>>204454116Poland doesn't deserve their own because they are grouped up into Blue. The Germanics all get alongThe Latins all get alongThe Slavs must get along too, for that is the rule of the map
>>204454567I'll ask again: if having less colours on that map matters so much, why distinguish between Baltic and Slavic languages, as they're all part of the Balto-Slavic language family?Reality isn't clean. You realize you're proposing to obscure facts in order to keep your autism about colouring maps in check?
>>204451992Most polshits are dumb and ignorant and don't realise that I2 is also pure slav.
>>204454615Wendish languages could be a different shade of blue, like Balts are. Additionally, South Slavs could have another shade as well.
>>204454651They could merge them, but i'm sure they had a good reason not to.I'm guessing that Baltic languages are pretty dissimilar to Slavic languages and the slavic languages share key LINGUISTIC features which bind them together.but i'm not opposed to grouping them all together if it reduces colors. As long as the Big 3 remain.
>>204454651>I'll ask again: if having less colours on that map matters so much, why distinguish between Baltic and Slavic languages, as they're all part of the Balto-Slavic language family?They have much larger distance between the groups than all Slavic languages between eachother.If we will separate Slavic languages to 3 subgroups on the maps we should do the same with Germanic and Romance languages.
>>204452496This is actually a real thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lechitic_languages>>204452528 and >>204452595 are wrong
>>204454674We're talking language here not genes.>>204454780Ivan understands. Might as well split up all of them then. It would be chaos.
>>204454806A subset of Slavic languages.
>>204451415I mean, you tried your hardest to make them German, then that failed and you tried to exterminate them, so some of that fault lies on you.
LUV ME CZECHSLUV ME SLOVAKSLUV ME CROATSLUV ME SERBSLUV ME MONTENEGRINSLUV ME UKRAINIANSLUV ME KASHUBIANSLUV ME SILESIANSLUV ME SLAVSSIMPLE AS
>>204451478This desu.Germany is also like 20% Wendish, and therefore Slav.
>>204454780>They have much larger distance between the groups than all Slavic languages between eachother.Are they more different than French is to Italian? What about German is to Swedish?
>>204452528balts are an offshoot of slavs forgotten for thousands of years to the passage of time because they lived in the swamps in the irrelevant part of europe
>>204457579Yes. Slavic languages are MUCH more different to Baltic languages than French to Italian or German to Swedish.
>>204457851Press x to doubt
love these lil niggas, they're so funny hahalike when they starting calling russians subhumans and referring themselves as central europeans, comedy gold
>>204457890You wouldn't get it probably, because you don't know any Slavic or Baltic language.
>>204457967apparently they deny they are slavs and larp as """wends""" nowcould write a book on all their complexes, reminds me of brazil.
Serious question. You guys keep calling Russians or any slavs you don't like mongol rape babies.. But you guys arr rook the same. I get that the mongol-turkic invasions were stopped at poland but that begs the question where did your mongolic phenotypes come from? As i understand it, sarmatians, who were part of the Scythian group that had varying degree of BMAC and Khosvgol (mongol siberian) admixture, were just a small part of polish ancestry, yet you guys look the same as other slavs who got mongol raped. The only way this makes sense if your sarmatian ancestry had a very significant amount of east eurasian and that it constituted a large part of polish and not just the elites.
>>204458069Didn't like a brwnoid stab 22 people(kids too) like today in germany because of reasons? I prefer a complex or two than every neighbourhood having a local kindergarten jihdist who says he's a 5 year old refugee
Why are we so schizo, Slavic bros?
>>204458403Cause Poles are like 'we wuz the first slavs n shieettt' and that let it get to their head and cannot cope with the fact that their subhuman eastern brother Russia accomplished so much more in the last 500 years when they got btfo'd.
>>204458002I have a B2 certificate in Polish (can pass a higher test now) and I was stationed at our military base in Latvia where I was attending Russian language class, as well as picked up on some Latvian.
>>204458723Idk. I can understand Slavic languages quite easily, not all of course, but still.But when it comes to Baltic.......
>>204458807Baltic languages have very similar grammar to Slavic languages but very different vocabulary, it's actually very strange and linguists still are torn on the question of relation between Baltic and Slavic languages, the concept of Balto-Slavic community is actually contested by many and they claim these language groups never formed one single community but rather something like a sprachbund similarly to the one in the Balkans.
>>204451415We're Sarmatian, not Slavic
>>204458807English speakers can't understand German or Swedish. French speakers can't understand Romanian.
>>204457967Poland is geographically and culturally Central European.
>>204459623They can to some extent. The same in Slavic languages, but that's not the case for Slavs to Balts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAqVhKKX4Yc
>>204459704>They can to some extent.No, they can't, especially not the examples I wrote (English speakers can't understand German etc.). Also keep in mind that the people in the video are language fandom YouTubers.
>>204459837But I know a bit of English and can understand some German.So yeah, they definitely can.
>>204459889Very unlikely that you can right now effectively understand more German than you could understand French, which is in the Latin family. Also keep in mind that you subconsciously absorb random tidbits of popular languages, e.g. from Rammstein
>>204451415>turns outHow was this not obvious? Wasn't Sarmatism enough of a hint?We wuz Iranics.
>>204451584No, we got it from Czechs. Our pagan duke married a Catholic Czech princess.
>>204451800we're better at not murdering each other every 5 minutes, so that's something
>>204452156>but it still doesn't matter for their ethnic origin, they're just not genetically SlavicThey are though, what are you on about?
>>204452999MY BYLI
>>204453170kekd>>204453253Why did you omit celtbros like that?
>>204460322Autists are obsessed with the rule of threes. Everything has to be categorized into 3 groups.
>>204458641Pooplish people think they can make up for the last 16 gorrilion years for what our pidor neighbor to the east did in like 20.
>>204461029quiet down jogailesh
>>204461249SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>204461293*PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Poland is based.
>>204460322Celtic languages are not nearly relevant to deserve a place. And they're basically fucking dead
>>204460940>AutistsIt's human aesthetics since The Bible.
Three guys walk into a bar, one is latin, one is Germanic and the last is slav..
>>204461654Kek. Who do you think wrote the Bible? Reckon we got an undiagnosed sperg on our hands, lads...
>>204461870Where do you think you are?Regardless Wikipedia will eternally agree with me. As will all maps which group languages except for maybe some assblasted ones in slavic textbooks
>>204462173What map of language families "agrees" that there are only 3 language families? Because I count ten (10) colours on this one >>204454116
>>2044622373 big ones.
>>204462270What qualifies as a "big one"? Is Turkic not a big language family? It's included on the map.
>>204462316Turkey is only marginally in Europe You want me to make you a fucking graph showing # speakers by family and why that grouping makes sense?What's your fucking agenda anyway?
>>204462367What's your agenda? You want to replace facts and obscure reality with "aesthetics" (source: The Bible)?
Romance, Germanic and Slavic make up about 90% of all European speakers (omitting turkey)To split one of these up you must JUSTIFY it mathematically by keeping the quantities per the big families in balance
>>204462386You're just mad about russia I seeYou're not a refugee are you anon?Or are you a stupid fucking redditor
>>204462429>Or are you are stupid fucking redditort. /r/MapPorn subscriber
>>204462407Why do facts need to be kept "in balance"? It's true or it's false. Additionally, these languages aren't exactly perfectly balanced in amount of native speakers. Don't you see the problem in your impossible goal for balance? Do we need a third World War to follow the Biblical Aesthetic of the Rule of Threes?
poland is the cutest country
All slavs are the same fucking people >>204462442Kill yourself
>>204462501I'm not even Slavic. It turns out that you could be wrong about something, and that it's you motivated by some sort of ideology of "aesthetic information" rather than truthful information.
>>204462494Slavs are all the same people I'm sorry you're part slav or hate Russia You will never get your balkanization That Wikipedia page will always be on my sidePolish will always be a slavic language I hope you drown in jeet shit
>>204462535I'm not Slavic. This proves that you didn't read the thread you barged into for your muh intellectual discussion. Classic sign of bad faith.
>>204451415What is disproportionately important in Poland is batalistic history. A LOT of Poles imagine Poland through the filter of we wuz Grunwald and Vienna and great conquerors. Then they extrapolate that feeling on the rest of history, society, whatever you have. This is why polish chavs wear shirts with hussars on them. Poles see no contradiction between excessive pride in batalistic history and having to emmigrate from Poland to Western Europe to make money. Slavs are impulsive people. Only social elite in Poland is westernized, rest of Poland consists of chavs and superstitious people. Maybe it's like that everywhere, but in Poland it's stronger.
