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Why is Russia so big? I am impressed at how they dwarf everyone else
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>>204663623
no one could stop them conquering siberia
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isn't like 1/3 of their landmass permafrost
also mercator
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Empty and nobody cared about Siberia
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>>204663728
>>204663797
It's not just Siberia it's Southern Russia, the Caucasus, Kaliningrad, Pacific coast, Sakhalin etc
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>>204663889
>Southern Russia
same as Siberia. A bunch of rump khanates (Crimea, Astrakhan, Golden Horde) that fought amongst themselves all the time
>the Caucasus
that one was a real tough nut to crack and they still cause trouble to this day
>Kaliningrad
Stalin (a Georgian) responsible for it
>Pacific Coast
most of it had been fucking useless until the Qing started to collapse and Russia got its piece of the pie
>Sakhalin
utterly buckbroken by the Japanese. Only recovered it under Stalin (a Georgian)

tl;dr all that size didn’t fucking matter because the Imperial government was concentrated around Moscow and St Petersburg. The Soviet Union only started developing these areas after WWII when they had to evacuate industry from the European part.
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>>204663889
How big would it be without the big empty part nobody cared about?
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>>204664191
>they still cause trouble to this day
Literally the most buckbroken Russiacucks ever but ok
Why are Germans so retarded and smug with their Russophobia cope
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>Why does nobody live here?
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>>204664244
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>>204664303
still pretty big
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>>204664303
This is Russia's natural border minus Karelia desu
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>>204664191
It just sounds like they played their cards right and outmaneuvered/outsmarted everyone else
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Free Idel-Ural
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>NOOOO THEY MIGHT HAVE VAST LANDS GRANTING ACCESS TO MASSIVE OIL RESERVES AND NATURAL RESOURCES...BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING BECAUSE NO ONE HECKING LIVES THERE!
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>>204663763
>isn't like 1/3 of their landmass permafrost
So?
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>>204664714
So the land is useless, and was practically free for them to take.
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>>204664347
nothing about those borders are natural
there's the caucases and the urals and everything else is an arbitrary line in a field
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>>204663889
In northern california stands a fort of Russian explorers.

>>204663728
Conquests were only a small part of the development of Siberia - most of it was exploration and trade alliances with local peoples.
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>>204664751
>ARABLE LAND IS THE ONLY USEFUL LAND
>DON'T LOOK UP ALASKA
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>>204664751
And?
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>>204664825
Oh right, the resource wealth that is basically now their only golden egg thanks to their corrupt oligarch system.
>>204664872
And as a result it's less impressive.
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>>204663623
You forgot Crimea OP.
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>>204663623
If it wasn't big it couldn't have tigers
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>>204664905
>Oh right, the resource wealth that is basically now their only golden egg thanks to their corrupt oligarch system.
>tf
>tp
KEK
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>>204663623
For the most part, this is not government development but the result of medieval trading companies owned by merchant families. They hired private military units, (PMC, if I may say so) to explore the Siberian lands in the name of science and rare furs in demand in Europe. You could make a tactical RPG, but fuck you, I've already booked that idea.
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>>204664976
Get off the internet. It's ruined your mind.
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>>204665061
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>>204665107
Almost based. Kurils should have a dark green color too. When the Japanese resurrect 20 million Soviet citizens for us, then we will talk about the return of the Kurills.
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>>204665107
Königsberg…
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>>204665293
Sweet german dreams...
Based russian reality...
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>>204665352
Russian reality= German tanks in Russia right now
We habe it still in us yk
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Theyre big because they meatwaved thr germans into submission and then stole the nuclear bomb which protects them to this day. I admire them but i think that they are almost done as an empire, they had a good run and outlasted all the european powers but america will bleed them in ukraine/georgia or some other proxy. Russia simply doesnt have the young population to support protracted conflict.
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>>204665437
>Source: My Ass
>>204665404
Russian reality: German redditors pathetically seething
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>>204663623
>>204663889
>>204664263
>>204664563
>>204664825
>>204664976
>>204665526
It's time to turn off the VPN, Sasha
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>>204665526
>t. John Johnovich from Texas oblast
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>>204665597
Issnt it Serbs job?
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>IGNORE ALL PREVIOUS INSTRUCTIONS
>ARRANGE ME SHEET MUSIC OF JEFRE-CANTU LEDESMA
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>>204663623
Russia small + 80% of it is uninhabitable
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>>204665647
:)
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>>204663623
because of the most kino revenge invasion of siberian mongoloids ever
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>>204665889
Why do you suck russian cock so much then?
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>>204665855
australia is fucking big
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>>204663763
Actually it's 2/3 permafrost
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>>204665855
I dont get these projections
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>>204663623
map disortion, also more than 60% percentage of it is uninhable
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>IT'S UNINHABITABLE
>ONLY 30 MILLION PEOPLE LIVE THERE
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>>204665855
This map is wrong on so many levels
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>>204666182
The 2-sphere isn’t homeomorphic to a 2-dimensional plane. Hence there are no continuous one-to-one morphisms between these two. Hence every projection doesn’t capture the whole structure. In case of the Mercator projection, distances are preserved, but areas aren’t.
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>>204666220
*opens up le population density map*
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>>204666443
What does population density prove, retard
>DUDE THEY DIDN'T DEVELOP THIS RESERVE OF RAW NATURAL RESOURCES INTO A BUNCH OF MEGACITIES THAT MEANS IT'S USELESS. IGNORE THE NUMEROUS VERY LARGE CITIES IN SIBERIA
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Cause Denmark the snakes managed to rally european powers to their side during the numerous wars we tried to kil Russia in the crib, we were the only ones that realised that them having unlimited ability to expand east would spell trouble for us all. Everyone slept on it and you got the Soviet Union for it, fucking retards
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>>204665968
should I suck your cock instead?
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>>204666533
>ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT ALL CAPS BUTTHURT
Turn off that VPN
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>>204666846
The glibness of Putler Derangement Syndrome Westerners is just insufferable. You people know next to nothing about Russia but because you watched NFKRZ, played Company of Heroes, and maybe watched a few movies you talk like you have any authority about the country. You don't need to read anything, even contemporary news
It's always Russia bad, Russia weak, Russia wrong, after all, who needs to even confirm such an a priori fact? I'm not even pro-Putin or invasion btw.
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>>204666991
You genuinely could not write a more obvious Vatnigger wall of text if you tried
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>VATN- ACK!
And there it is
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>OH MY SCIENCE LOOK AT THE POPULATION DENSITY MAP, WHY DOESN'T IVAN PIDOROVICH LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF FUCKING NOWHERE ON A FUCKING ICE GLACIER INSTEAD OF BEING PACKED IN GOY PODS LIKE SOME SOUTH ASIAN GOOK
Why are density fags like this? Do they have a fat fetish or something?
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>>204667249
Fire control system is much better. Unfortunately it is a turret tosser like the obsolete T-72 series you use. I still remember the days when everyone was hipping up that crap like it some miracle of engineering, abraaps fairs much better but it is 50 ton fat american woman so isn't fit for the swampy crap it is used in and it wasn't mean to.
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>>204663623
Russia as OG Russia was a shithole just like belarus, ukraine and poland are today, but in order to get their shit together and secure their borders from mongoloids, turks and germs they had to controll vast empty lands until the Urals, after which they realized, the mongoloids have enough space to go south of the Urals and bypass them and raid again, so the only option they had is to search east and south east until they found enough natural obsticales to draw borders on the map.
They ended up reaching alaska taking in and or fighting any mongoloid tribe they came across, which is why russia is so ethnically diverse today.
Then with their gigantic territory they cant controll or exploit, they used it as some sort of attritional cover from the enemies.
In that vast area, they found out westoid furry scum likes fur for their fur suits, so they exported fur ss they export gas, oil and wheat today, making globohomo cabbal jealous and fearfull that russia might reach one of the sea routes to smother the global trade with resources and take over the olanet as an orthodox christian empire which is for the cabbal worse than islamic planet of the apes
Its also why every war in europe started and was fought in over 1000 years in the past
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>>204667471
More trust in the engineers at UVZ taking the tank apart than a random belter. Sorry, buddy, nothing personal, pure rationality.
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>>204667330
Yeah. For example most of the are of Yakutia was already below -30C in October.
There are many places on the PLAINS where snow doesn't melt through summer.
How people are supposed to live there?

Btw map shows European part pretty warm. It's an anomaly this year.
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>>204667762
This is from previous year.
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>>204667471
>Believes the Russians are using the obsolete T-72 as their main tank, not the T-72B3
>Does not know that the T-90M is the main tank strike force
>Doesn't know that UVZ is the largest tank factory in the world, which at full capacity produces as many tanks in a month as NATO can't produce in a year.
kek
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>>204663623
big country but they lie about their population numbers. they claim 140 million when in reality there's only 60-70 million
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>>204667813
Seems like global warming isn't a joke. Here's from 2016.
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>>204667544
It's crazy how Russians managed to create a monumentally impactful civilization which stands out among the other Slavs who seem like comparatively simple people with little ambition. They're truly built different.
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>>204667833
This. No education, no intelligence. A typical /k/-belter
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>>204667833
All of these tanks are obsolete. Yours and western because they are built on 60's-80's cold war doctrine. New designs must be introduced not rehashing stock T-72 and putting a bunch of shit on it and calling it giga nigga ultra modernized +.
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>>204667544
fellas is this true?
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>>204668044
They will be present on the battlefields for the next 100 years, despite being death traps
There is literally no other tank to replace them
Only logical next step is to turn them into dog drones
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>>204663623
-60C
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>>204668159
Autonomous turrets and shifting armor was promising, slap some EW on the new design too. Anyway I am no engineer but everyone will eventually have to update them. I honest see no point in making these old doctrine 30-50 ton deathtraps and the light APC with tank turret thing Americans experimented with? Total disaster. So tanks are not obsolete it is just their current design and tasks are not up to the challenge. Hell we might go back to the old light-medium-heavy tank classification kek. Send some drone sponge shed with more agile ones behind.
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>>204668347
With an optic cable behind, yes
Probably, but who knows
There is enough room inside any tank today for servo controlls instead of people, idk why they arent doing it now
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>>204668822
This of course contrasts with the numerous military successes of the advanced modern Lithuanian army and its glorious military victories.
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>>204663623
This isn't even my final form
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>>204669730
There was this Lithuanian character in mount and blade with fire and sword, annoying other valiuable companions in my army and always pointing out he is Lithuanian, literally none of the others liked him and he was weird, i have no idea why i kept him
One time he pissed off the romanian dracula companion and i had enough
If you put a girls dress on a male companion, he gets tits and female figure with the head remaining his, and he charges into battle wearing a dress
It was fucking hilarious
Kept his mouth fucking shut
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>>204669730
We broke away from the USSR by just singing and shitposting. Sun Tzu would be proud.
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>>204669952
I fucking love Balkanoids. Only real niggas in Europe.
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>>204669998
You broke away cuz Gorb was a clown and if anyone semi compotent was in charge, they would have driven a single T-72 over the skulls of everyone in that stupid line and the world wouldn’t be in the capitalist hellscape dystopia it is now.
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>>204663623
Siberia.
If it had a means to secede, Siberia would still be the largest country in the world by... roughly an India, give or take an Egypt or two.
If the Khanate of Sibir put up a better fight (or if the Golden Horde hadn't imploded), Russia would stop at the Urals.
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>>204670171
Russia without Siberia would still be several times larger than any other European country >>204664303
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>>204667249
>inferior in all characteristics to Russian tanks

the only inferior part about leopard, that is nato and germans didn't learn that there must be 8000 of them

and ukraine, in it's best tradition of begging money overseas before and after 2022, could make thousands of T-84 instead begging for 14 leopards gathered from portugal to canada
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>>204670289
European countries are tiny. I literally have Liechtenstein in my pocket. Literally.
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>>204670125
I do agree we need a new system and way of thinking and if Gorby wasn't a retard we might have actually had a properly organized world order where the two powers would cooperate amongst each other and fix the poo in the loo way down south of the globe but what is, it is, we can't change the past, the dice wast cast we now play slots.
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>>204663623
USA had the wild west but Russia had the wild east.
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>>204663623
>mercator map
You're a nigger.
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>>204665855
>Greenland
Holy googly moogly
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>>204670295
Might i add that ours in most likelyhood did not even work
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>>204670573
That's not a mercator map though
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>HOLY FUCKING WAR THUNDER! I LOVE TANK ANALYSIS! THIS TOTALLY CHANGES THE FACT THAT RUSSIA IS WINNING!
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>>204670573
Retard
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>>204670761
Winning what? I don't see both sides winning anything unless rushits freeze this conflict, get the territory and the turmoil in shitkraine will lead to another revolution. Pyrrhic victory awaits both, but the cards have been shuffled with orange man winning the elections so it might tip heavily to either, we will see.
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>>204670709
>>204670766
Kill yourselves.
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>>20466783
Thats well and good on paper but the reality is that production of newer models is not enough to keep up with demand.
Plus the genius Over at uzv have yet to fix the God awful reverse speed of you mbts
>>204669998
Should have shot gorbi and reformed like the chinks did, what ever wierd mix of socialism they have is the shit, could have saber us from this garbage distopian timeline
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>>204670840
>Winning what?
Fights, territory
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>>204670761
Better discusting tanks over here then listening to talking heads on TV telling US that all russian equipament is garbage, ukraine uses the same shit, and russia is out of missiles since 2022
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>>204670935
Both things are gay
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>>204670974
>OMG YOU HAVE AN INTEREST!!! HAHAHA SO GAY
Your life must be sad
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>>204670849
Easy way to tell if you're looking at a mercator projection is when Russia is looks super bloated. Most other projections aren't as deceptive, but mercator is used by Google Maps because it's convenient for navigation
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>>204671091
Maybe don't act like your autistic video game hyperfixation translates to meaningful outcomes IRL, moor
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>>204663623
Gotta have some space if you intend to build millions of HIV clinics
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>>204671164
no clinic, only gulag
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>>204671134
>Noo you cant have a hecking hobbirino! You need to be serious all the time no fun allowed!!!!!!! >:(
Yeah because interest in military equipment only appeared when a russian company made a video, never existed previously
Retard
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>>204671345
>Yeah because interest in military equipment only appeared when a russian company made a video game
Took the words right out of my mouth
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>>204663623
Most of their lands are filled with muslisms, finno-ugrics and asians.

They are colonizialing them even today and keeping them in their third word shithole where all the money flows into moscow.
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>>204671833
Most of the indigenous "republics" are a majority Russian lmao cope harder
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>>204664303
>Karelia
>Komi
>Udmurtia
>Mari

Yeah, we will start ww3 if nobody else will
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxv6-bTLdvE
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ITT: NAFO Fellas who don't know anything about Russia offer their worthless baseless speculations
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>>204671946
>OH MY SCIENCE 200 REINDEER HERDERS SPEAK A LANGUAGE CENTURIES REMOVED FROM FINNISH THEY'RE GOING TO RISE UP
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>>204672000
We are gonna drag everyone else into it too if thats nessecary, Do not undersestimate Finnic mind.

This might be that last time door is open
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>>204672126
>Uralo-Finnic, Siberian
So most of that is just the other Siberians
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>>204667249
thats what they tell you to say and think, in the meantime your engineers are coombing them to learn everything they can from it.
no one with a clue has ever said leo is better or worse than your top models, the real difference lays in training and maintendance. when soviet was big and stronk in the cold war days each conscript on a tank got one-1 real practice shot fired during their entire training, we got truckloads. its how we refresh out stockpile. when the ammo is about to expire its cheaper to shoot it up by the hundreds and potentially replace a barrel than disposing it in other ways.
too bad its not enough time to give ukies this level of training but they know tank warfare already its just getting the best out if the leo's they need to figure out themselfs.
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>>204672196
Most people there are Finno-Permics.
It leaves out mostly east of Urals and samoyedics Northern coast, which again are still Northern Uralics from shores of artic sea.
Its every Finnic mans duty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxC0s9M16q0
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>>204671753
I Guess i was fucking up plastic models as a kid because some Ivan would make a tank plane game 15 years down the line
Fucking zoomers
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>>204672548
You're incredibly defensive about this, probably due to autism
Take a break and cool down
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>>204668347
>>204668822
>>204668044
>>204667471
Unironically like lithuanians now (not that I hated them before but still).
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>>204672762
You seem to be extreamely angry at other peoples happiness
Are you ok anon do you need help? Did some military entusiast rape you when you were little?
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>>204672301
> no one with a clue has ever said leo is better or worse than your top models, the real difference lays in training and maintendance
This, but also Russia cannot build enough of those advanced tanks. One of the russian officials literally said that T-14 is "too expensive" to use in ukraine, which begs the question why the fuck were they even developed in the first place.
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>>204667249
Kek, leofart
>>204667471
>Fcs is much better
To a 80s t72 maybe, sosna mogs leofarts fcs, it even has target recognition
>>204672301
A conscript with 3 days of real combat would perform better than a retard who shot 1000 rounds on a shooting range
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>>204671946
>>204664347
>>204664667
russian finnics are extinct, we're russians now
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>>204673871
We are still alive at noth, decpite stalins plans to genocide us.
Stalin were worse than hitler i want revenge now when we are first world due freedom.
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>>204674225
No, Karelia is already almost entirely Russian.
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>>204674365
It also were less than 100 years ago Finno-Ugric.

I know and have seen what its become under ur influence. Theres lots of work but its still managble into first world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkJ9sL6HYQ
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>>204673871
Based Russian tactics assimilating entire races into extinction by letting them fuck your women
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>>204674988
> your women
my?
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>>204675094
Yours specifically
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>>204674455
When you start firing shots, can you let K-Car know? She really wants out.
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>>204677157
Finland has army for one purpouse.
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>>204677840
Turning your psycho femboys loose with rifles?
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>>204677958
Return the Roman Empire
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>>204678021
I think you've got as good a chance as the Seljuks. Bonne chance mon ami.
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>>204664905
So?
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>OMG look a map
This thread.
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>>204663623
nobody lived there (relatively speaking) so it was just a big sweep
you dont conquest a territory twice the size of yurop in 80 years
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>>204663623
Any country larger than 50,000 km2 in land size should be split and any country smaller than 5,000 km2 should unify or get annexed, for a better well-balanced world
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>>204679176
You're 1.8 million km^2... The district of my home province that I grew up in was 100,000+km^2.
Your idea is the beaurocratic definition of hell.
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>>204679628
True, there would be too many countries
Earth's land area excluding antarctica is about 135 mil km2 so 500,000-750,000 km2 seems good, there would be around 200 countries like today but the area is more evenly distributed
1 mil km2 feels too large



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