>befriended a russian exchange student>comes to my house with bottle in hand, says he wanna kill himself>read Dostoevsky>now I wanna kill myself>watch Stalker 1979 >misanthropy doubled and suicidal tendencies quadrupled>listen to Rachmaninoff, Shostakovich, Moлчaт Дoмa>the flicker of conscience gets erasedI have seen and explored many cultures but "this"... "this" one hits the most different.
>>204684333You shouldn't post here if you under 18 y.o
>>204684333 The pro connoisseur move ("znatok" as we call it) is to listen to Russian classic rap.Seriously, it's the only uplifting music out there in Russian. The pop music is kinda nauseous and eventually you realize pop music is meaningless, the rock is kinda "sad". It gets tiring so you need more energy.I only found that sense of eternal energy in classic Russian hip hop.DOB CommunityBad BalanceRayon Moyey MechtiTriadaKrecNevskiy Beathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHK-v2KCdEQ
Russians are disillusioned and have attained the truth
>>204684333That's called being realistic.
>>204684333Dostoevsky made me want to live doe
>>204684333are you living in 2018
>>204684333kino>>204684749he made me saw the beauty in life but i still want to stop living anyway haha
Suicide is sin.
>>204684333Did you do the needful and JEETED his bussy?
>>204684333Communism absolutely arsefucked them. It would happen to any nationality which lived under that for 70 years
>>204684688I understood one thing from Stalker. I could be wrong in my interpretation of the zone though. Human beings don't actually know what they truly desire. They can never know. If some higher power or force were to reveal to humans what they "truly" desire, they will either go mad by the revelation or reject the force/power altogether. One thing I never understood (despite my research) is the glass in the end. Why did the glass move? Was it the Train or her? What does it symbolize? What did Tarkovsky wanted people to believe? Its like the ending of Nolan's Inception.
>>204684333None of the things you mentioned are inherently misanthropic. Stalker is philosophically the opposite, the MC who maintains hope in miracles despite everything around him going to shit is the one you're supposed to empathize with and it's implied he was at least somewhat right in the end, the book was way more misanthropic. Dosto never commits to full-blown misanthropy either though he entertains the concept on a surface level with his characters and if he makes you want to kys then you fundamentally misunderstood him. Shostakovich wrote some depressing shit but Stalin was the only one he really had beef with. Rachmaninoff wasn't misanthropic either, all the Romantics were interested in human darkness. I don't listen to Molchat Doma much but I like the song Toska and I'm pretty sure it's about trying to move on from depression and pointless longing. Your friend trauma dumping on you is a bit whack though.
>>204685017The glass moving somewhat validates the MC's belief in the zone's capacity for miracles and granting wishes. It's meant to be ambiguous though whether it's real or just an illusion caused by the train. Look into the Russian Orthodox concept of the Holy Fool, the film even mentions it by name. At least that's my interpretation.
>>204684333You should embrace avos' thing.
>>204685085Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" book is really just about how it's hard to have this sort of Machiavellian Euro-mentality in the hyper trad society of OG Russia. The MC is this Switzerland diaspo Russian nobility guy who returns to the Homeland and tries to adapt to the newly discovered Russian environment and he even gets used to it but during the whole book you can feel how it kinda tires him, what is obvious for everyone else, tires him and that's why he's the "Idiot"The MC's rival (the one from the Old Believer family) actually understands the MC's overall notions and somewhat even resonates with him but he just can't bring himself to embrace that direct approach to life. It's mirrored in one of the chapters where a background character goes on a rant on how it's only in France you could become a famous persona like Napoleon just by tanking everything with your charisma.Dostoevsky doesn't show a way, rather he just sorta blows all of these concepts onto you so the reader has to figure out how to "self aestheticize" on their own.
>>204685017This movie was so tiringly boring...
>>204685315I really need to read that one still. Thanks for reminding me anon.>Dostoevsky doesn't show a way, rather he just sorta blows all of these concepts onto you so the reader has to figure out how to "self aestheticize" on their own.Yeah, this is the general impression I get from him. There's an aspect of autonomy and self-actualization in that, which isn't misanthropic.
>>204684333Because vid related
>>204684333because russia is india with snow
>>204686804india has tigers though, russia probably isn't big enough to have them as well.
>>204684333Russians are born to die
>>204686863At least they are still Russians, how is your brown neighborhood doing today, Adolf?
>>204686863Most Austrian post.
>>204686825at least we have aids
>>204686976wow, russia has everything
>>204686928there's way more browns in russia than in austria lolrussia is like 20% muslim, austria less than 3%
>>204686985actually, Russia is 45% muslim
>>204686951That's just the way it is looking at history. Russians are meant to live a hard depressing life then die. That's what you want.
why would a russian willingly choose to go to school in india.
>>204687076probably because op just made this up
>>204686985Tbf being a Muslim is way better than siding with this and I'm an atheist
>>204684333>95-99% of history enserfed to some emperor>endless meat wave wars>state never looks kindly upon any kind of individualism or individualistic expression, people being different from some strict cultural norm>past history of state encouraging alcohol consumption, making it a deeply rooted part of the culture>culture of 'male must handle everything himself and stay quiet, not complain or he's a pussy'We're in a constant 'race' for statistical 1st place in Europe by suicide rate.Look at what honorable company us 'former part of the Russian empire, then USSR' states are. Right there with all the worst, unbearable, disease, extreme poverty and crime ridden shitholes of Africa.In the last decade we've done a fuckton of research into why this is and it's the points at the beginning of my post.At this point nothing can save the alcohol addicted, boozed out of society village boomers, for example. Which are the largest suicidal demographic.But pushing changes in school that promote individualism, self-expression, no more teachers bashing kids for dressing or behaving differently, teaching that it's normal to talk to other people and psychologists about any family or personal issues they're going through.And for the past 5 years or so, teenage and young adult suicide rates have been going down more and more each year.
>>204687454Wonder if any other states from the same basket of recent history (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, Moldova, etc.) with high suicide rates have also done their research and taking action and I wonder if their findings are the same (I assume - at least similar).
>>204687454I'm sure we're not ever recovering frome this)
>>204687454>eaching that it's normal to talk to other people and psychologists about any family or personal issues they're going through.>eaching that it's normal to talk to other people and psychologists about any family or personal issues they're going through.i agree with your other points but psychologists aand family are all bullshit at least for thirdie families, russia may not really be thirdie but in the aspect of family they are. if you share your problem with them they just use it to kick you down and blame you and make you feel even shittier than you already feel fuck family
>>204687076They have some pretty good tech, architecture and similar schools. And they're hella cheap.And the Russian government makes it easier, because it's got all sorts of programs that make it easier and shill for muh brics cultural exchange.Them and India had pretty large student exchange programs even in USSR era
>>204687454that's just an estimation of WHO based on 90s numbers, real number is much smallerit's 9.7 at 2022
>>204685294Aвocь isn't about "trying again and again despite downs and lows", it means hoping things will resolve themselves without doing anything
>>204684333It is strange that poo religions do not deserve a place here because there is no other country that understands suffering as Russia does. And this is not to mention the same haplogroup, similarities in language and technically caste society. Dharmic beliefs are still closer to us than Semitic
>>204685085This
>>204684333There are currently more than 100 drone videos showing Russian soldiers committing suicide, some are as grizzly as slashing their own throat with barbed wire. Their attitude towards life and death is completely alien to the western mindset
>>204684333Orcs understand their miserable ruined nature.
>>204688229get back to the PKM ivan
>>204684333no bitches
>>204684333>>read Dostoevskylol lmao evenmeme-the authordidn't read the reast of this nafoid bullshitzoomers haven't read here shit in their life except maybe Harry Potter
>>204688026More than 140 to be exact
>>204688572Yeah, russians are way less sophisticated than people give them credit for. They're nihilists for the sake of being edgy, not because they're philosophical.
>>204688486MODS!!!!!!!THIS IS LEEBAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>204688648>They're nihilists for the sake of being edgy, not because they're philosophical.lolDostoevsky hated nihilists.
>>204688486It's too late now, the cat is out of the bag.
>Look outside of the window>It's dirt and shit and poverty everywhere>the government is controlled by kleptocratic psychopaths>muslims are replacing the native populationWould you be happy?
>>204688727You voted for this.
>>204688727Form what I've seen outside Moscow I don't get people are still alive there considering how shit everything looks for 3/4 of the year
>>204688858As if Moscow isn't the same. It's cleaner, sure, but not clean by any means.
>>204688916there are no specks anywhere, what are you talking about?
>Russian doomer music (vol. 1488)woah dude I'm such a doomer bro fr fr no cap
>>204688767I don't think Russians ever got to vote. Even if you consider that the majority of the population developed the Stockholm syndrome.>>204688858>>204688943Moscow at least resembles a normal city. The rest of the country is pure misery.
>>204688943Depends on the neighborhood i guess, Moscow is pretty inconsistent even in residential outskirts.Bit it's still leagues better than even satellite town like Krasnogorsk, Podolsk, Mytyshi, etc
>>204688943>>204688858>>204689044It's not SO bad. Some places are like this, but in general it's getting better. Especially in big regions (big by population).
>>204689212Ekb looked nice when I've beed there recently, but it was mainly center and in summer.
>>204689044are you sasha
>>204689316Whomst
>>204689316No, Sasha would rip his ass in half, saying how Russia is super in everything and every person earn more than 1500 euro per month.
>>204688648>>204688727>>204688858>>204689044>>204689092>>204689212>>204689269get conscripted and get rekt'd moscovites t. uralian
>>204689351why are russians so rich
>>204689352Go fuck yourself. I'm from Ural too.>>204689360They're not.
>>204689412>t. self-hating pidor
>>204689442I see it is not only Poles but Russians too who regard Lithuanians as people of absolute authority
>>204689442I'm not self-hating. I'm not saying that life is terrible, but it's not great either. My only post from your list of replies is this one >>204689212
>>204689492why do you hate russia so much
>>204689476>toilet humour
>>204689508>>204689360Why are you trolling with stupidity?
>>204689521
>>204689530i'm unironically retarded
>>204684333People outside of EE think nothing bad is ever going to happen and they get depressed when it actually doesPeople from EE dont expect anything good to happen, and when it does its probably a trap
>>204689536LOL
>>204689352>>204689442Why so butthurt mountain, fingol?
>>204689536>>204689565>>204689591>Why so butthurt mountain, fingol?
>>204684333Read Gorky and watch Bondarchuk instead.
>>204689352You won't get me
>>204689548A way to minimize unpredictability is by living alone.
>>204686985Tatars are the most numberous population and white. See Irina Shayk
almost as if orks were a tumor on earth in every facet
>>204689710Tatars are like Bosnians.
>>204689703>t.
>>204689710>Irina Shaykshe's not tartar she's from urals
>>204689906Projecting?
>>204689940>Cвoeй внeшнocтью Шeйк oбязaнa тaтapcкoмy пpoиcхoждeнию пo oтцy и pyccкoмy пo мaтepи>Eё oтeц Baлepий Шaйхлиcлaмoв >Бaбyшкa Шeйк — Гaлия Гaйниcлaмoвнa Шaйхлиcлaмoвa (20.11.1924 —20.12.2013; Cибaй)
>>204690107Sibay is a bashkir townshe is half bashkir like your favorite tranny >>204690009
>>204690340Did you know that there are almost the same amount of Tatars as Bashkirs in Bashkiria?
>>204689906Wtf is that flag?
>>204684333Sounds like we should put them out of their misery
Bashkortostan got trannies?
>>204685294So it's like this?
>>204687454>lithuania abandoning their most sacred traditionTruly dark days
>>204687587>family bad rant>american flagChecks out kek
>>204687454this just proves women don't suffer while men have horrible suffering, at least in post-soviet countries
>>204684333You wouldn't understand.
>>204687076I mean I'm a Russian in my cunt, the Russian diaspora is weird.
