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Give me one (1) reason as to why Germany shouldn't be bigger.
If Germany was bigger we'd have a cure for cancer, flying cars and colonies on Mars by now. This is a fact.

>muh eastern Euros
They just killed millions of their own and Germany had nothing to do with it. They suffer either way. Not an argument.

>muh France and Britain
They have proven that they no longer have the strength to lead Europe on their own.
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>>205594441
>we'd have a cure for cancer, flying cars and colonies on Mars by now. This is a fact.
You'd just spend all your engineering talent on building bigger more efficient gas chambers.
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>>205594491
If you gas all the cancer patients there wouldn't be anymore cancer
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>>205594561
Forgot to say: Burgers not welcome.

Of course you'd have nothing to gain from a strong, independent Europe.
Thus you did everything in your power to prevent this from happening.
Your own propaganda from the time makes it obvious.
Despite the modern tales about "spreading democracy" or whatever it was all bout denying resources to Europe.

Btw the German Kaiserreich was the most Jew-friendly Germany ever was, until the FGR.
Earlier in the HRE they were confined to ghettos.
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>>205594441
A lot of that wasn't ethnically German
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>>205595064
You can make the same type of argument about Napoleonic Europe but somehow I suspect you wound't support that.
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>>205596311
German isn't a real ethnicity.
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>>205596348
Whoa, deep
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>>205594441
>Give me one (1) reason as to why Germany shouldn't be bigger.
People would stand in your way to stop that.
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>>205594441
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>205596371
Explain to me what the fuck a "Ger" is
It doesn't exist. The entire ethnicity is just a contrived frankenstein out of the H.R.E
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>>205594441
I don't care about colonizing random thirdies on the other side of the planet. I just want Großdeutschland. Hell, I'm against colonizing people in general, especially people that are culturally distant, but a Germany stretching over most of Europe would be better for humanity in general. Imagine if we could've had that without the death camps and treating so many people so badly. In a world where slavs just understood what was at stake and willingly moved together to create a new pan-slavic country in western Russia we'd have it so much better.
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>>205594441
>Germany needs to be bigger or however the refugees are imported
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>>205597624
An independent, sovereign Germany would never import "refugees" which is a phenomenon that is rooted in the values pushed by the US.
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>>205594441
why didn't you let this happen?
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Why don't you just dig holes and expand underground, so we can come and just bury you?
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>>205594441
Germany is just a weird offshoot of France in the same way that Finland is a weird offshoot of Sweden - a bunch of barbaric tribesmen broke off their rulers and thought they could run a country by themselves when, in fact, they have no right to do so.
Germany is a tumor that shouldn't exist and this has been proven by all the times you've tried to destroy your host, Europe.
"Germans" should be re-Frankified or if all else fails deleted.
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>>205598121
bro imagine some incel germcuck making this map and then he goes out to buy his poopenfarten beer and gets stabbed by nafris lmao
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>>205598121
My guess is that it's full of Poles and Russians and we would've had to take them in.
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>>205598244
>Germans" should be re-Frankified or if all else fails deleted
VGHHHHHH
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>>205598388
>we
LOL your shithole is literally running on EU gibs and even then you are less developed than Puerto Rico.
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>>205594441
>To the strongest!
~Adolfus on his deathbed or something
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Forgot pic
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>>205598244
LOL seeing that France literally got its name from the Franks who were a Germanic tribe this couldn't be further from the truth.
France got lucky when Germany was laid to ashes after the 30 years' war but since we 1871 we overtook them again.
But why am I even talking to you? You are probably some envious Sicilian, shouldn't you be in some thread with fellow brown people?
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>>205594441
>old worlders are still chimping out over centuries old disputes
Lol stay divided it only makes it easier for us to dominate you all
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>>205598883
bro you have nafris stabbing germcucks in the streets lmao
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>>205599067
The backbone of Europe is the Germanic race. Its numbers should be increased, plain and simple.

I know that your solution to competing with China seems to be to increase your Mexican blood but of course that will only mean your demise, which I welcome wholeheartedly.
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>>205599184
And we are still Europes powerhouse.
Really makes you think.
Meanwhile you are literally on the level of said Nafris.
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>>205596514
>Poles and czechs should just move out of their ethnic homeland because uh oh reasons that I made up in my incel head
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Wow!
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>>205599327
Denis.
One, you're not german.
Two, would you eat a mans peepee if your gf asked you to?
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>>205599327
bro you're literally bragging about getting raped LMAO the absolute state of germcucks
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>>205599446
Stop stirring the pot, perfidious toothpaste
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>>205599547
Who the fuck is "Denis"?
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>>205599587
How am I bragging? I'm merely stating that this country is run to the detriment of Germans, which you obviously realize yourself, yet we are still Europe's powerhouse.
If we were to have an effective government that looks out for our interest this world would be very different, hence why the powers that be try to prevent it, the mass immigration being part of that.
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>>205599693
>>205599769
>uhh yeah I might be getting raped and stabbed by nafris on daily basis but at least I get to work in poopenfarten factory
lmao bro
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>>205594441
>Give me one (1) reason as to why Germany shouldn't be bigger.
Because we own you bitch.
Now pay your electricity bill before i cut the wifi of the entire german race in under 5 mins.
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>>205599916
And still we have a better functioning economy than France, despite retarded decisions from a malevolent government like shutting down the NPPs.
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>>205600031
I don't care about your coping nigga.
Do i look like a pole to you?
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>>205594441
>Give me one (1) reason as to why Germany shouldn't be bigger.
I want to live yet
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>>205594441
Germany is our bulwark against slavic autism. Nothing more.
They exist because we allow it. And they will end when decide it.
Mac Arthur was always right.
Germany? More like NNSS.
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>>205594441
Give me one (1) reason as to why Italy shouldn't be bigger.
If Italy was bigger we'd have a cure for cancer, flying cars and colonies on Mars by now. This is a fact.

>muh eastern Euros
They just killed millions of their own and Italy had nothing to do with it. They suffer either way. Not an argument.

>muh France and Britain
They have proven that they no longer have the strength to lead Europe on their own.
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>>205599436
You can just make western Russia your new homeland. In 500 years you will be over it and humanity will be so much more ahead that you wouldn't want it any other way. People today live better lives than kings in the past; imagine being 100 years, in terms of progress, in the future right now. You'd live such a great life.
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>>205601895
Well you can make Anatolia your home than. In 50 years most of your population will have roots there than why not just move and cherish the land of your ancestors. You'd live such a great life.
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>>205602016
My point is just, objectively speaking, that having several times as many Germans would be a boon to the world. You must be reasonable enough to see that much, right? If it weren't your people but Russians or Egyptians or Nigerians instead you'd clearly agree with me, but stupid tribalism keeps you from agreeing with me.
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>>205594441
Germany should be smaller, the Bonn republic was the most prosperous epoch in 1800 years of Germanic history.
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>>205602187
Your point is gay, go back to turkey, roach
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>>205594441
fax can't travel that far
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>>205598121
>saar referrendum
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>>205600478
It's just too bad you never figured out a bulwark for preventing the complete Africanization of your country.
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>>205602685
The fact that the only insult you have is calling me another nationality, pretending I'm just a lesser ethnicity hiding behind a german flag only shows how you can't attack me or any of my points. I'm a quarter polish through my grandfather btw, so I'm not even a Nazi that just thinks you're a subhuman. It'd just be better if Germany grew because that'd bring the world further.
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>>205602838
But you are, real Germany an heroed during WW2, and only a roach like you doesn't understand that.
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>>205602876
The Volksgeist might've been americanized, but the body hasn't been destroyed that much. Germany isn't dead yet and until people like me give up on it won't.
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>>205601660
>>205594441
Why not both?
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>Give me one (1) reason as to why Germany shouldn't be bigger.
the fact that germoids have been unable to win a single war in all of recorded history, for startings
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>>205603304
we should instead switch sides in every war we're in like you
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>>205603347
still a more successful strategy than getting assraped in every single one of them, dont you think?
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>>205594441
You wanted to kill Einstein and promote “aryan physics” instead.

Flying cars my ass, science would have died under the iron fist of nazi Germany.
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>>205603483
that's not nazi germany in the OP
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>>205602187
In fact it could be a good idea to have 2 Germanies lol
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Imagine the world where everyone looks like this.
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>>205603629
Id rather live in a world where every russian looks like this
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>>205603796
How did they give them to drink?
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>>205603629
Does anyone really think those 2 on the top look bad? Mengele looks a little creepy here but not bad. Fritzl is just old and probably had a few strokes but he was probably handsome as a young man.
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>>205600090
No one in Germany is "bashing" other countries, two thirds of Germans were against shutting down nuclear reactors
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>1/3 of the thread is seething butthurt belters
sad!
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>>205602838
>I'm not even a Nazi that just thinks you're a subhuman
Sad!
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No
But the Carolingian Empire should come back
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>>205594441
Why are there cumstains all over the map of eastern Europe?
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>>205604458
Because all the areas are (were) settled by ethnic Germans and the map is from an alternate history where these areas became part of Germany.
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>>205604621
know i understand why wessi laugh at ossis

also americans have more scientific achievements total and UK has more per capita than goyland LLC

germany should perish
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>>205601660
This should happen too albeit
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Pro tip: The best course of action is actually just ignoring the idiot that keeps begging for attention
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>>205604691
It's not my fault that god has made Polish people so subpar.
Mad cause bad.
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>>205605010
denis what are you talking about ossi?
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>>205599769
Not him but
>if
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>>205596510
>German (n.) "a native of Germany," 1520s, from Latin Germanus (adjective and noun, plural Germani), first attested in writings of Julius Caesar, who used Germani to designate a group of tribes in northeastern Gaul, of unknown origin and considered to be neither Latin nor Germanic. Perhaps originally the name of an individual tribe, but Gaulish (Celtic) origins have been proposed, from words perhaps originally meaning "noisy" (compare Old Irish garim "to shout") or "neighbor" (compare Old Irish gair "neighbor"). Middle English had Germayns (plural, late 14c.), but only in the sense "ancient Teuton, member of the Germanic tribes."
It means that you're loud barbarian.
>>205594441
>they have proven that they no longer have the strength to lead Europe on their own.
You're the one in recession, not them.
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>>205594441
Kraut, you just closed down all your nuclear plants and replaced them with coal ones. Think about getting some proper leaders first.
Nuclear energy is the future but your masters prefer to shackle you like a slave with high energy and gas bills.
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>>205604621
I live in one of those blobs, the one marked as landshut to be exact, and around 50-60% people have germanised surnames. Even my great-grandfathers from both mother and father side had german surnames. But no one including nazis when they came there considered us germans.
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>>205601660
Your entire country is just a tourist attraction you're not leading shit
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>>205594441
An insane timeline would be Germany winning ww2, getting pic rel (with Finland obv) and democratizing.
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>>205594441
You lost WW2 and are now occupied by the USA and must do as told. GER is limited to what the US allows it to do - it has no free will as a country.
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>>205605857
Seems like Ukraine just can't have crimea in any timeline
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>>205605905
"Two world wars!" Yea, sure thing anon. Another trillion dollars to israel. Have fun paying your taxes.
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>>205605679
Yeah, Germanized names or not, you needed to prove Aryan descent to be considered "volksdeutsch".
Most of these countries expelled their Germans, afaik Romania is the only one that didn't and since the soviets didn't expel you either there must have been a good reason.
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>>205606109
>volksdeutsch
my grandpa was in that and his surname was kowalski
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>>205605857
But "democracy" is the anti-thesis of national socialism.
Both the western capitalist and the eastern communists considered themselves "democratic".
It really is everything Germany tried to fight against.

We might have liberalized but with national socialism in place we wouldn't ever have "democratized".
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>>205606162
So if he was in that he was considered German which also means he would have been expelled by the soviets/Polish government or worse maybe being judged as a collaborator and traitor, then hanged. So I have a hard time believing that.

And btw what is this preoccupation with names?
That's smoke and mirrors.
Jewish people had German names, that meant nothing.
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>>205606183
>It really is everything Germany tried to fight against.
No it isn't. Germany tried to fight against communism and us influence
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>>205603629
nimitsky bros, our response?
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>>205606289
Yes, and as I said, both the western, capitalist countries and the eastern, communist country considered themselves "democratic".
(Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICS)
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>>205606339
They consider themselves democratic but they aren't. I could consider myself a woman as well.
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>>205606371
Well I mean real democracy like in Ancient Greece is something entirely different but:
Modern "democracy" has a focus on parlamentarism and the values that emerged during the French revolution, which were detested by the national socialists.
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>>205606183
>But "democracy" is the anti-thesis of national socialism.
NS is democracy perfected in it's own conception.

However I mean democracy as in liberal parliamentary democracy.
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>>205606183
>but with national socialism in place we wouldn't ever have "democratized".
Nah I can imagine slow growth occurring after the end of ww2 causing the Reich and Europe in general, divorced from world markets, to democratize around the 90s/early 2000s
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>>205594441
you know I can't really say the real reason
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>>205604160
Meiwes is an ugly neanderthal and Kinski is a little scary lookin. Mengele and Fritzl look more normal imho
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>>205607210
What "world markets" would there have been? In a scenario like the one you posted mainland Europe would be under German control, the USSR would be confined past the Ural mountains.
Asia would be under Japanese dominance.

The US would thus not have western Europe or Asia, it is in fact THEM who lack access to the world market.
Maybe you would've stayed friends with the US but it would've been hard for you to say the least. More likely you would've had to come to terms with us.

And the US actually displayed their own hopeless situation in case of an Axis victory in their own propaganda to boost to morale of their troops. See: >>205595064
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The fuck is Jupiter doing, the paypigs are becoming unruly, he should distract them with scat porn or something
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>>205598121
SAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>205598244
TRVKE
but also their pink pussied angels should be distributed to southern europe as wife slaves
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>>205607606
>Asia would be under Japanese dominance.
I never said that. The world i'm imaginging would be moreso akin to Thousand Week Reich.
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>>205607606
>The US would thus not have western Europe or Asia, it is in fact THEM who lack access to the world market.
They have all of North and South America plus Africa and Asia. In the worst case scenario they have North and South America plus most of Africa.
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>>205607981
I'm not familiar with that but say that the US did in fact beat the Japanese even though Germany won the war in Europe.
Then there are still the Chinese that most probably would not cooperate with the western allies.
Taiwan was supported by Germany and why wouldn't we have supported them further had Japan fallen? Both Chinese nationalists and Chinese communists fought together against the Japanese and they would probably do so against an aggressive US.
All in all I don't see Asia as a profitable market for the US.
>>205608000
See above and South America had many countries that were in fact leaning towards supporting fascism, anything anti-US really.
Africa isn't a serious market, it's a place to extract resources from and Vichy France might have a claim to the French colonies, it was after all a state even the US recognized.
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>>205608285
>Then there are still the Chinese that most probably would not cooperate with the western allies.
China would be run by the nationalists due to the Chinese not receiving any USSR support and the Nationalists would be aligned with the US against the USSR and Germany since China would be competing for influence in Iran, Afghanistan and the middle east/central Asia more broadly.

China would initially be a junior partner, essentially a lapdog, of the US initially until it got on it's own two feet and began to assert itself on the world stage which would occur earlier than in our own timeline (around the 80s/90s) while the USSR would likely harden up into a giant North Korea completely closed off from the outside world with a huge military.

Germany's economy would be shit and stagnate a ton with the ideological hardliners likely winning out over the reformists leading to ossification of the NS system until it eventually collapses into essentially Germanic Russia with massive corruption, concentration of wealth (the Nazis already did this irl and sped it up during the war) and a gerontocracy of epic proportions (like the USSR).

The USSR in the face of NS Germany's collapse would likely harden up even further akin to NK after the collapse of the USSR irl.

Basically the dynamics of the world would be somewhat similar but different. Instead of Russia being the long faded rotted out husk of an empire larping as a superpower it'd be Germany.
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>>205608285
>Taiwan was supported by Germany
Wtf are you talking about?
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>>205594441
yes but germany winning ww2 would result in the complete genocide of Jewish people in Europe and (((we))) can't have that
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You know what, I'm seriously tired of Chuds, Krauts and Kraut apologists yapping about muh Grossgermanium 24/7. Follow through. Just do it. Come and take it. Let's see how it goes the third time.
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>>205608842
Poland would lose. You have no nukes you have no natural barriers for defence.
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>>205608970
Poland will always prevail
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>>205608991
Poland is not a naturally defensible country it's borders are artificial.
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>>205608970
>You have no nukes
Neither do Germans
>no natural barriers
Oder

We also have A LOT of new tanks (thanks to you) and even more will arrive soon.
Bundeswehr is a joke compared to the modern Polish army.
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>>205609030
Your country is completely flat with no defensible natural barriers like mountains or oceans and surrounded by enemies it's pointless.
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>>205609059
It was like this in 1939 you retarded bugman, not anymore.

Not like that even matters because like I said, modern Krauts can't even protect their own women from getting raped by Ahmed, not to mention invading other countries.
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>>205608842
>Let's see how it goes the third time.
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>>205609089
Germanys gdp is like 6 times poland and 3 times that of poland you will lose.
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>>205609156
Like I said Kraut, come and take it.
Unless you do it, you look just as weak and pathetic as Katsaps whining about muh Kiev and muh Odessa.
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>>205609176
Okay I will ask a pole if they think Germany will win next time one of you transports my furniture
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>>205609176
Germany would crush poland. You have no nukes your borders are weak.
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>>205609190
And their army is still in a pitiful state, while ours is modernizing fast. We will soon spend 5% of our GDP for defense, they don't even spend 2%.

>>205609189
I will await your answer while I drink tea in the cafe in the beautiful ancient Polish city known as Wrocław.
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Basically no one believed Germany had good intentions for its neighbors. The US was actually the wedge that got west Germany into NATO and force everyone to shake hands when France didn't want to touch Germany with a ten foot pole for very obvious reasons. This was a major talking point during the London and Paris Conferences.
>b-but if history was different Germany would do everything right and contain the Soviet Union solo and then rebuild Europe and then
Sure bro, and if you got a time machine to go back to when you were 10 you wouldn't end up the same retard larping on the internet, you'd be a gigachad in a lambo fucking celebrities every day. We believe you.
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>>205605849
Wrong, the tourism sector is tiny compared to the rest of the economy. Retard.
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>>205594441
Because of the consequences of your country's actions 80 years ago. That's probably the best answer you will get.
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you waged 2 race wars of expansion and lost, this is a result of your actions
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>>205594441
I sincerely hope you germans starve and freeze to death this winter.
You are a retarded species of 60s hippie Green energy utter morons, and you do not deserve to have security, basic amenities or a good future. You dirty, fucking sitzpinkling gutmensch
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>>205594441
Poland = good
Germany bigger -> Poland smaller
Poland smaller = bad
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I think it is self preservation on behalf of the Poles to desire a weak Germany.
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>>205594441
Please admit Pennsylvania and the Dakotas to Greater Germany
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>>205594441
Because you loose
Like twice
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Because killing children in gas chambers is a bad thing. And your culture boils down to mass murder and genocide.
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>>205611623
You are doing the same thing around the world toughever
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>>205594441
All I want is a EU superstate
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>>205594441
if Germany was socialist i'd accept them annexing austria, parts of switzerland, liechtenstein, luxemburg, holland and france
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>>205612654
>Annexation for thee, but not for me!
It's easy to be a faggot with somebody else's asshole
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>>205611623
>Because killing children in gas chambers is a bad thing
What if they are the Synagogue of Satan?
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>>205612688
>It's easy to be a faggot with somebody else's asshole
i'm so going to steal that one



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