what's so different about both of them?I get it if you want to defend your cunt against russia if you're baltic or finland (and maybe poland)it's like mexico invading guatemalaas a guatemalan your quality of life won't change that much if mexico decided to install a random puppet as your presidentis 100.000+ dead & refugee that won't ever come back home (nuking your demographic) really worth the trouble?
>>215098359>what's so different about both of them?We're Finno-ugrics and they're khazars.
>>215098359Would you welcome the Chinese invading and occupying your country? All of you slant-eyes are all the same anyhow, are you not? So what's the difference anyway?
>>215098782whats the point if another country annex your country? Nothing would change for common people
>>215098782we don't even use the same alphabet and never part of the same empirewe're the russian in most part of our history>>215098930do you want to go back?
>>215098930I guess you'd be fine with Libyans taking over the government in your country then?
>>215098359Da, da, da. I agree that the Oinkkkrainians and Russians are blood brothers. Stop resist and welcome your liberators )))))
>>215099050libyans are too primitive. russians are more civilized than ukrainians. i wouldbe fine if any of italys land neighbout annexed my country though
Hilo HIVan
>>215099048>we don't even use the same alphabet and never part of the same empireEurope has 2 main alphabetic systems, both of which originate from Greek anyway. And most of the countries were part of one empire or another in the past too. So what? >we're the russian in most part of our historyNo
Why did Americans rebel against Brits? They were basically the same peopleEtc etc.
Ukrainians are a fake nation and a communist-Jewish creation, I don't understand at all how it is possible that they are so brainwashed that they have a motive for going to a suicidal war and what do they think will happen at the end of the rainbow, that if they win the war (which is impossible) that they will have a standard like Germany by some magic?
>>215099264taxation, basically
>>215099323and the outcome is the same with much less deaththey have the change to be belarus or even kazakhtan if they weren't so hostile against russia in most of their post soviet history
>>215099215your ethic identity & even language is just a variation of russian one>Nopoint out why not then
>>215098359russians are asiatics and ukrainians are jews
>>215099403>they have the change to be belarus or even kazakhtanThe limit of thirdie imagination>if they weren't so hostile against russia in most of their post soviet historyhttps://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=1446
>>215098359All true. The rational choice would have been to just surrender but effectively this helps Germany so I'm not protesting it..it's good that someone else goes to kill russians without me having to risk myself.In the case of Taiwan though, where I'm not personally affected, I hope that they are smart enough not to destroy themselves to fight the usa's proxy war
>>215099580it's called being realisticeu & america didn't even want to touch you like they did with poland beforebecause the whole world know you're part of russian sphere of influence whether you like it or not
>>215099571>your ethic identity & even language is just a variation of russian oneNo?>point out why not thenConsult the following sourcehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh9mgdi4rNewfxO7LhBoz_1Mx1MaO6sw_
>>215099810>it's called being realisticNo, it's just a thirdie mindset. The russians are not entitled to a sphere of influence, just because they exist. >because the whole world know you're part of russian sphere of influence whether you like it or notWell, the russians spend every waking moment since 1991 trying to make that reality, but the only thing they did achieve, was the complete opposite
>>215099403You are delusional. What hostility? Do you even know anything about Tuzla incident, trade wars, Kharkiv accords, etc? No.
>>215099810>>215099765Grow a spine you cucked cowards. Nothing worthwile on this gay earth can exist without some form of bloodshed
>>215098359Tigers.
>>215100025pyззкiй - ґлaз yзкiй
>>215100388Diaspora or Nigor VPN?
>>215100315>pyззкiй - ґлaз yзкiйNice self-projection.
>>215098421Stop calling us subhumans
>>215100465I once saw a video of Ukrainians yelling to Russians to "go back to Finland"
>>215100417pidorashka please
>>215100408Known katsap diasporoid
>Just let people bigger than you have their way, it's not worth it>self determination isn't worth the trouble. Just do what you're toldVery bug mentality
>>215100512Sucks for Denmark
>>215100502I think i a just to western but i don’t get what you want to say with this pic
>>215100500>>215100501Seems like an undeserved compliment
>>215099810Being realistic is acknowledging that Putin can’t even conquer all of Donetsk in three years. Where the Russian army does advance it leaves a trail of complete and utter destruction or they bring in fucking Churka settlers like Mariupol, it’s no wonder most Ukrainians don’t want to live under Russian domination. Luckily they won’t have to.
>>215100665>Ukrainians insult Russians by saying that Russians are not subhumans>somehow I am now ownedRight
>the danish flag schizo successfully derailed the thread
>>215100846*smooooooch*
>>215098359Imagine you're Guatemala, aligning with America but Mexico tries to make you its bitch
>>215100846Are you ok you schizo faggot
>>215098359Let me answer this, in case it's a real question. It's because the only thing shittier than being a russian is being a russian vassal state
>>215100783I’m not NAFO but at least they have some teeth left to get smashed in unlike you. Nobody wants your shitty mafia gas station country to rule over them, Ivan.
>>215101073How is this difficult to understand, you fucking retard? Russia is an inferior shithole. Why would I care what Ukrainians say
>>215099105>russians are more civilized
>>215101073>for their admixture with Finns and BaltsThat's pure Battle-Axe Corded ware, original PIE+WHG
>>215098421this unironically
>>215101289>Ukraine is in a 10x worse than RussiaAnd who's fault is that? Lmao why are you so mad hivan :D
>>215098359Are indonesian VPNs that cheap? I cant imagine creating threads about Vietnam or other distant countries.In short, Kiev is the mother of russian cities. Without the khokhols, russia will become a barbaric asian country like yours.
>>215101531I'm pretty sure the war is still going on. And do you seriously expect anyone to take your advice on professional settings when you're a seething schizo? Holy shit you're delusional
>>215101850Seethe more
>>215101421>And who's fault is that?ukrainians
>>215100025>>215100163>>215100388See you on the front lines sasha
>>215098359But if you become an annexed territory or vassal state you will have to be on their side in all of their wars after that and I think there will be more wars soon
>>215098359Ukrainians are completely white, and Russians are a horde of Mongoloid demons.
>>215098359They are all the same, no one cares about the civil war among the Sl*vs.
>>215103477So true
>>215098359Russians are humans and Ukrainians are pigs.
>>215103782You're a chinkcel, btw.
>>215098359you don't get it because you're a spineless cuck
>>215104000the irony is that neither my mother nor my sister will even feel your microscopic rice dick, lmao.
>>215104090Kek
nafoids try not to hit report button at every post you disagree with: the challengeLMAO
>>215104445See in you in the Cube, HIVan.
>>215104493oink oink sooey sooey piggie piggie
If you support the Ukrainian regime you're an immoral piece of coward chicken shityou deserve vanning by TCC and obligatory sent to the front
buck buck buck baawwwk bu-GAAWWWWKarticle 5 bros when?
Amazing pol thread good job moods
>>215098359Ukraine doesn't want to be conquered by a corrupt authortarian shithole. It's that simple really
>>215099323>Ukrainians are a fake nation and a communist-Jewish creationGo back >>>/pol/
>>215104445Ywnbaw, tankie
>>215105401>>215105439Ukraine is a literal dictatorship atm unlike Russia, why are you comically evil and lying on the internet?
>>215098359One is ruled by Khazarian Jews and other by Russian SlavsSimple as
>>215105482>tankielmao. You need to get your teeth smashed in nafo fella
>>215105528>why are you comically evil and lying on the internet?Why are you accusing others of what you're guilty of? Russian federation is a dictatorship under Vladimir Putin. Political opponents are arrested and killed in Russia. Ukraine is a democracy. If you're going to support Russia at least be honest
>>215105566>You need to get your teeth smashed inOooooh look out, tankiefaggot is acting the hard man xD
>>215099323>that they will have a standard like Germany by some magic?They hope for western support + $300 bn of russian assets. Problem is that Ukraine is kind of big country to survive just on that money so Zelensky actively working on reducing ukrainian population
>>215105620>Ukraine is a democracywhere is this democracy? 10 opposition parties banned, very democratic indeed. Donbass and Crimea excluded from elections. 1 state authorized TV channel, media censorship through the roofWhat "democracy" are you even blabbering about retard?
Church persecuted, TCC manhunts on the street of meat"Democracy" and "freedom" in action m'ladies and gents
>Church persecutedyou mean the kgb controlled entity that got subverted 80 years ago by stalin whose patriarch is a former communist kgb agent?
Zelenskyiv even attempted fucking with le "anti corruption agencies" and got burnt because he hurt his western sponsorsdictatorship A-OK only as long as loyal to Wall Street
>>215101077>It's because the only thing shittier than being a russian is being a russian vassal stateMaybe prior 2022Since then Ukraine managed to prove there are still ways to be shittier than RF
>>215105778Imagine crying for this heresy
>>215105868Your country is literally satan,keep hating on republicans for promoting healthy values in in society lmaonobody wants your fag and troon garbage belonging in hell together with you
>>215105682>10 opposition parties bannedYeah pro-Russia parties>Donbass and Crimea excluded from elections.They're under Russian occupation you brainlet >1 state authorized TV channelSo like Russia then?> media censorship through the roofLol in Russia you can't even call the war a "war," you have to call it a "special military operation."Get your facts straight before you start pushing Kremlin talking points
Russians have a much higher per capita GDP the Ukrainians just think the EU will magically make them rich
>>215105868russian church is an emberassement to christianity
>>215105721>Muh church persecution Only churches linked to the Russian state. Orthodox Christianity is the most popular religion in Ukraine and many AFU soldiers are Orthodox Christian
>>215105961how convenient every opposition is "le pro Russian"sounds like dictatorship would actalso Zelensky was voted in and Porkoshenko kicked out on a pro peace basis>So like Russia then?the fuck are you blabbering about? there is only 1 tv channel in Oinkraine>Kremlin talking pointsironic that nafoids are fighting le supposed authoritarianism with a literal NK tier totalitarian dictatorshipseems like you don't really stand for the values you claim to uphold, unless convenient in some geopolitical contextI am vomit
>Why does Ukraine fight?Because RuSSia is the worst place in the world. Even Ukraine is better (without Putin's slaves). End of story
>>215106074>how convenient every opposition is "le pro Russian"Almost as if Russia has been trying to politically subvert it's neighbours for years now. Let me guess, that's evil NATO imperialist propaganda?>the fuck are you blabbering about? All media in Russia is controlled by the state>ironic that nafoids are fighting le supposed authoritarianism with a literal NK tier totalitarian dictatorshipNorth Korea is literally fighting on the side of Russia you absolute retard. You ziggers are the biggest idiots on the internet, Jesus Christ >seems like you don't really stand for the values you claim to uphold,I believe that countries should be able to defend themselves from murderous terrorist regimes, just as Ukraine is defending itself from Russia
>>215106231>subvertGayto is subverting a ton of countries all over the planet through NGOs such as USAID, Open Society Foundation. funded by the likes of Soros>controlled by the statenoand even if this was the case, how would you even justify the Ukrainian gov with its literal totalitarian control>NK fighting alongside RussiaRussia never claimed to be a champion of le freedumb and democracy>murderous terrorist regimesgood I hope you condemn Israel as well beside the Ukrainian terrorist regime, bet you don't lmao and gonna spam a bunch of lame excuses why they for exceptionalist reasons are allowed to obliterate Palestinians in Gaza
>>215098359The US state department subverted the last actual Ukrainian election (Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt, John McCain directly involved in le maidan).Everything Russia has done is a response.
>>215105968After the so-called Soviet ‘friendship’, Poland was poorer than Ukraine. When Poland broke free or rather when Russia, meaning the USSR, fell flat on its stupid face after trying to match the US militarily we managed to catch up with countries like Portugal. Who knows, maybe in the future we’ll catch up with others, but that’s difficult. People who live far from Russia won’t understand this, because they’ve only ever seen Russia in a James Bond movie.
>>215106400No, we didn't and the US government is not competent enough to do it. Russia is just a shitty country and nobody wants to be a part of it.Even if it was true, Russia has no right to kill people in response. Russia is a very violent country with bad leadership.
>>215106231>I believe that countries should be able to defend themselves from murderous terrorist regimes, just as Ukraine is defending itself from Russiaits nice of you to put it that way when you hold the gun to the back of the heads of the Ukrainian males
>>215106187>Why does Ukraine fight?Because the nazi Kievan regime kidnaps ukrainian males from streets and sends them to trenches.
>>215106484The big bad west can't even deploy a humvee into ukraine.
>>215106479>not competent enoughDo you not know our history of regime change for the past 100 years?Even Iran had a democratically elected president before we installed the Shah and deservedly got a hostile state 20 years later.
>>215105620>Ukraine is a democracy.
>>215105620 #>Ukraine is a democracy>Become more popular politician than Zelensky>Claim you're balloting to next elections>Oops you're geting arrested
Interesting why Ukrainian politicians flee from so-called democracy
>>215106479The fact is that the US agreed not to interfere with countries bordering Russia and not expand NATO in the late 90s/early 2000s.The US is the violent country for weaponizing all of these countries especially Ukraine for the goal of antagonizing Russia because neocon warhawks think the cold war never ended. Also the defense contractors only get rich by selling weapons to countries like these.
>>215106745Leave my country. Go back where you belong. You clearly aren't happy with Christianity or Americans
>>215098359cold war propaganda has done a number of boomers and seemingly many younger people here as well, the ultimate culmination of "me good, you bad"
>>215106800>america>ChristianIt's satanic.
How much are ziggers paid to shitpost here, btw? Or is it just a way to avoid the frontlines?
>>215106800>you can't criticize our foreign policy, it's unamerican to have your own opinions!I was born here with ancestors going back to the 1700s I'm just not interested in funding foreign wars so sadistic people can here can think they're "winning" some war all the time.Also Christianity? Where did I mention that it's not Christian to ship weapons for profit to escalate conflicts, that's literally demonic.
>>215106745>The fact is that the US agreed not to interfere with countries bordering Russia and not expand NATO in the late 90s/early 2000s.There were never such an agreement. Not on paper, not even verbally. There was talks of such a deal when East-Germany was joining West-Germany, but Gorbatshov probably thought he was in a position to make a better deal so nothing was put on paper yet. And then SU collapsed.To this day pro-russian propaganda repeats a lie that such a deal existed at any point. Which is outright comical when you take into account that Russian Federation doesn't respect its actually existing deals any better.
>>215106873Victoria Nuland looks like a fat pig, I would love to watch her burn alive over a bonfireher melting deposits of fat seeping through her ghoulish skinsatanic jew witch doing everything in her power to ignite Russia-Ukraine conflict because she is butthurt about her Pale of Settlement ancestors
Honestly Putin is a shitty leader and I wouldn't want him as my President. Putin is running Russia into the ground and has gotten thousands of his soldiers killed with no success. In return, thousands more Russians have left for Turkey and the west.
>>215106618>>215106666Shouldn't you be at the front?
>>215107016Regardless Putin even talked to Clinton about joining NATO in 2000 so initially there was no need to antagonize Russia. The whole point of NATO was to fight the Soviets and after it collapsed it became a way to turn the former eastern bloc against Russia.To think that wouldn't end in conflict is ridiculous, even now the US is threatening Venezuela which doesn't even share a border just for not being aligned with us it's hypocritical to say the least.
>>215106484>Ukraine, a country fighting for its survival, has mandatory military service What's your point?
>>215098359theres literally no difference between themboth are mistery meat subhuman slav(es)
>>215107758>it's alright to kidnap people from the streets and send them to the meatgrinder to die for western neo-vaginasHowling.
>>215106371NATO is a defense alliance, it has nothing to do with NGOs , USAID, Soros etc. You really have no idea what you're talking about, just parroting zigger talking points >noYes, last time I checked the likes of RT is run by the Russian government >Russia never claimed to be a champion of le freedumb and democracyRussia does claim to have fair elections which is a joke considering Putin is dictator > I hope you condemn Israel as wellThere it is, typical brownoid mentioning Gaza for no reason. Israel is fighting terrorists in Gaza, that's completely different to Russia illegally invading Ukraine unprovoked >allowed to obliterate Palestinians in GazaIDF is saving so called Palestinians from the Hamas terrorist regime
>>215107758kidnappers go boom
>>215107889>die for western neo-vaginasThey're fighting to defend their country. Those retarded arguments might work on /pol/ but they don't work here. And again, shouldn't you be at the front?
>>215107983>can't answer the question Pathetic
>>215107991>They're fighting to defend their countryShouldn't it be voluntarily?>shouldn't you be at the front?No, I'm not urinian.
>>215108031where's the (you)?
>>215108067>Shouldn't it be voluntarily?During the world wars people were conscripted to fight. Ukrainians don't have a choice, it's either fight or lose their country
>>215108031Also my own answer would be that if it was that important to the people they would do it themselves instead of fleeing the country or being kidnapped.https://x.com/anatoliisharii/status/1957784543395520798
>>215108211What about human rights?
>>215098359Between us and East Ukrainians — almost no difference. Western Ukrainians from Galicia have been ruled by Poles and Germans most of their history, are more nationalistic and don't speak Russian.
>What about human rights?BABAOOEY
>>215108211>lose their countryas I said, there's nothing to lose
>>215108456Whis idea is this video supposed to convey?
>>215108590its just funny a russian is talking about human rights like he's a human when youre just cattle for your oligarchs your lives exist as entertainment for muslims when they kill you and your childrenAlso dont forget your entire existence as a nation was built on conscripting useless slavoids to die for their mongol and churka masters
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