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Oregon edition

>What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed)
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold

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disgustingly early
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>>215145774
old thread burned out
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>>215145836
another 15 replies for that
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I can't get a word out in French. Or a sentence. It's supposed to be super similar to English and German, and we share those Standard Average European features, but Portuguese felt much more comfortable to me
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>>215145976
>analytical Romance language perplexes the Germanic speaker
you're experiencing the 'wildy different grammar obstructing learning' effect, where grammar is too easy or too hard in either direction, or too analytical or too inflected in either direction, compared to your native language
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>>215146084
and the monosyllables scattered across the sentence, the syncretisms in phonology...
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What is the beautiful state of Oregon known for?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvular_ejective_affricate

Qh-xargh
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Yay, Oregon! Here we speak English and Spanish and depending on your area either Russian or Vietnamese third. We have the best wine and cheese in the whole world, and no sales tax.
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>>215145976
I can't wrap my head around "est-ce que" being pronounced "eska"
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GuAb everyone

Has anyone been doing their reps lately? I feel a bit behind but whatever. I still have tomorrow
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is it worth it to get a language partner or do they all just end up trying to date you/fuck you/make you write their essays and CV?
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"नहिं" ipa : /nə.ɦĩː/
Is a negation particle going after indicative mode

Example :
जूलिया एक लड़का नहिं है।

"मत" ipa : /mɐt̪/ (note : the last consonants, voiceless plosive, is dental rather than the usual alveolar)

Is a negation particle going after imperative mode.

Example :
मेज़ पर मत बैठै। (note : no auxiliary verb is need due the fact that this an imperative mode sentence, the last voiceless plosive is retroflex pronounciated, and aspirated with strong air passage)
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Routledge Frequency Dictionaries. Home.
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>>215147475
Have you tried getting one who's not a foid or gay?
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>>215148046
they are all foids tho, that's how it works
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The end of the year is coming, how's your progress, anons? ("How are you getting on?" - is it also correct?)
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>>215147730
Its alright but they are lacking in languages really. Wiktionary frequency lists are a good fallback though.
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>>215148549
I took a 2 month hiatus after dabbling for the first half of the year. I am now locked into learning Mandarin in prep for the TOCFL exams while maintaining my Japanese.
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>>215148941
Cool. What level?
And now I have a new word: hiatus
>>215148243
Not necessary. I've been ghosted online by a few English natives recently, all male
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Opinion :

After some listening it seens to me that "ख" is either an allophone to the voiceless velar plosive aspirated /kʰ/ and voiced velar fricative /ɣ/.

From the listening of the noun/ infinitive verb : "खाना".
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Ablative pronoun here :

वह मुझसे आगे है।
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>>215147475
man i'm way too autistic for this shit. having a language partner means you regularly make appointments to talk to each other right? and you have to answer to questions and such?
fuck me man i couldn't bear that, i'd ghost the shit out of that guy and ask random shit at 4am 2 months later
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¿Dónde está el baño?
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>>215148549
I made great progress
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>>215146608
beautiful lands, beautiful coasts, just beautiful place in general.
t. not oregonian
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what French music and German music should I listen to?
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>>215147512
>>215149622
>>215149844
My husband
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Fuck, I've made some gains but I'm realizing what a pointless timesink language learning is. I don't have money to go on fancy vacations. Most languages are either irrelevant or spoken mostly in violent shitholes where you'll be robbed for being foreign. Everything gets translated to English these days.

The only thing keeping me going is I think being monolingual is peasant-coded and I'm a snob. Why am I doing this to myself.
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does the italian learning polish person still post here? i havent used /lang/ in a while
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إنبوتتتتتتتتتتتتتت
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>>215155825
I thought it was useful to know French in Canada?
I don't have money either but I think I will some day, so I'm preparing for that.
>I think being monolingual is peasant-coded
True and based
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bumperl
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>>215160162
>-erl
How do you pronounce this without sounding retarded
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>>215155825
True, you should just give up and do something else.
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*keeps you doing inefficient grammar-translation exercises so you'll never learn the language and keep using their app*
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>>215162651
have you tried pingo app
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>>215145976
ich hab mir selbst Deutsch beigebracht und seit etwa zwei Jahren lerne ich Französisch noch dazu. Meiner bescheidenen Meinung nach ist Französisch mit Abstand schwerer in den Griff zu bekommen im Vergleich zu Deutsch. Meiner Erfahrung nach liegt diese Schwierigkeit in erster Linie an der Aussprache was für mich irgendwie schlüpfrig und ausweichend ist. Deutsch ist vergleichsweise klar und die Wörter unterscheiden sich deutlich voneinander. Bei Französisch sind die Wörter nicht zu fassen und schlüpfen sich ineinander. Ich denke man muss jedoch das Gute mit dem Bösen hinnehmen. Das was Französisch schwer zu lernen macht macht es auch eine der weltschönsten Sprache.

>>215148549
I've read about 4 books in german and just started a fifth. I haven't quit french which in of itself is a win, but I've also managed to listen to about an hour a day while walking/driving and I've kept up with my anki too. Definitely seeing progress finally. Also read harry potter 1 in french.

Overall not bad imo.
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>>215161979
eal. Austrians say this
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>>215155825
There is a lot of content online, and not all cultural phenomena can always be translated well
>>215157622
I think that was me. I abandoned Italian and have been in the dabbler hell since then. I'm currently focusing on English, although I'm very lazy at it and I'm considering whether to learn a new language from the New year's Eve or to find something else productive to do.
What's up?
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>>215163147
No, I only use Lute, Language Reactor and Anki.
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which of these is worth learning?
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>>215164733
Bokmål and you know them all
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Guys….

Is it better to learn German or start with Dutch since it seems easier ? I’m more into German than Dutch, I’m only unsure how to start with A1 because all of the textbooks are in German so you can’t even understands thing or any explanations. Haven’t found an English and German textbook (bilingual) so you can’t learn a thing. And getting a tutor is a bit expensive : 30 bucks for 45 minutes. Also anki only works on a pc and not mobile :( I forgot the app but it was free and I could listen to random words but I lost it… apps are bad, you need a teacher and a textbook but I’m poor. I have 500 words in German on anki which is a beginning…..
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>>215165783
>Haven’t found an English and German textbook (bilingual) so you can’t learn a thing
Colloquial German (Routledge)
German with Ease (Assimil)
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>>215165906
I can’t seem to borrow Routledge on Archive.org so I will try and find out how to get it without paying. Probably a good start
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>>215165783
>Is it better to learn German or start with Dutch since it seems easier
Learning language A to learn language B usually isn't worth it unless language B is obscure
>unsure how to start with A1
German and Dutch are close enough to English to start cold turkey with parallel texts and audio. Harry Potter should be no problem to pirate as both PDF and audiobook, or if your beliefs go against Harry Potter or piracy, the bible isn't much worse.
>anki only works on a pc
AnkiDroid worked fine on my Android phone when I had one
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>>215166087
Hmmm - Reading HP is a B level, I would have to listen to baby stories - and try to identify words instead. Usually you have to start with grammar , that’s why all textbooks do this — in German ofc.

Ok maybe iPhone sucks then.
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>>215165783
You can download books here:
https://annas-archive.org/
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>>215166315
Hell yes, thank you
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>>215166658
These never fail to provide me with a giggle
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>>215163251
Würdest du sagen, dass französisch ähnlich idiomatisch ist wie Russisch? Soll meinen, dass ich das gefühl habe, das im Französischen die allermeisten gängigen Ausdrücke und Konstruktionen einem Muster folgen, welches 1:1, Wort für Wort genommen keinen exakten logischen Sinn ergibt. Ich lerne zur Zeit spanisch und demnach auch romanische Wörter im Allgemeinen zu verstehen, aber manchmal, wenn ich französische Sätze lese und wirklich jedes Wort darin kenne, muss ich trotzdem einen Übersetzer benutzen um zu verstehen, was der ganze Satz bedeuten soll, weil die Ausdrucksweise eher auf festen Redewendungen beruht, als auf wörtlich verständlichen Satzkonstrukten. Im Russischen ist das wirklich sehr gängig. Man kann jedes Wort der russischen Sprache kennen und ganze Sätze trotzdem nicht verstehen, weil die Verwendung und Ausdrucksweise teilweise so auf fest vorgeschriebene, altertümliche Zusammensetzungen gemünzt sind, dass man bestenfalls nur erahnen kann, was zur Hölle man von einem will. Meiner (beschränkten) Wahrnehmung nach, scheinen sich Russisch und Französisch da nicht allzu stark zu unterscheiden.
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how hard is it to learn swedish?
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>>215168410
easiest language for germans after dutch
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https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/66726730/LynchM2018ELBillingualOption.pdf
What do you think about this?
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>>215168410
Als Deutscher? Nicht sehr. Schwedisch ist ein germanische Sprache und demnach grammatikalisch sehr nahe zum Deutschen (wenn auch mit intrinsisch nordgermanischen Eigenheiten, die es so in unserer Sprache nicht gibt). Ein großer Teil des schwedischen Wortschatzes entstammt dem Niederdeutschen (durch die Hanse im Mittelalter), weswegen dir nicht nur die Wörter mit gemeinsamen urgermanischen Wurzeln bekannt vorkommen sollten, sondern auch andere, die sogut wie 1:1 gleich verwendet werden wie im Deutschen.
Die größte Schwierigkeit ist meiner Meinung nach das grammatikalische Geschlecht der Nomen. Schwedisch hat aus praktischer Sicht 2 Geschlechtskategorien: Gewöhnlich (common, schw: utrum) und Neutral (schw: neutrum), wobei ersteres ein Zusammenfall von männlichen und weiblichen Nomen darstellt. Allerdings deckt sich das erfahrungsgemäß viel weniger mit den deutschen Geschlechtern als Norwegisch (wo sie fast immer genau die gleichen sind). Das und die Aussprache. Die ist auch etwas schwer nachahmlich, auch ganz abgesehen davon, dass Norwegisch und Schwedisch Tonsprachen sind.
Sollte einen aber nicht beunruhigen. Ist eigentlich wirklich fast geschenkt, wenn man Deutsch kann.Ist eine eigentlich sehr hübsche Sprache und nicht zu fordernd.
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>majority of "indo-german" words cannot be traced to the indo-german languages
hmmmmmm
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>>215169889
my penis can be traced to your retarded face dipshit i will fuck you in the ass and you will fuck me in the ass and we will have the mutual feeling of 3 very proud inches merely tickling each other's prostate
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>>215169889
wdym
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Why is German so difficult ? :(
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>>215170271
Du schaffst das, Großer
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>>215170271
Gib nicht auf mein Freund
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>>215169963
you lost
common sense won
>>215169965
the majority of words traced in european languages do not fit with the indo-german theory
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>>215170513
you mean indo-european? sanskrit, balto slavic and latin share a majority of their vocabulary, no?
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>>215171379
tienda de segunda mano
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>>215171379
Müllleimer in German
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>>215165783
German. Dutch is great, but German is spoken in several countries, has more different areas to visit, more native speakers to talk to, has easier pronunciation, more native content, a lot of translated content, Germans know less English than the Dutch. And you are into German, so... If you were more into Dutch, then everything I wrote above would not matter, you should just learn Dutch then. Even easy languages are like at least a year of learning. Learn languages you like or at least you need to something
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>>215152881
I want to visit the USA someday but is it really worth it
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>>215170271
Maybe you should find a similar learner on a similar level to converse with

I have been using the deutsch thread to learn new words, i think this is a bad idea however,,
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>>215171379
Adománybolt

BTW are you the britishanon that was learning Latin a while back?
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>>215171379
二手店 or 旧货店 but it's not a good translation
Charity shops don't really exist in China
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>>215153136
what do you listen to on an average day?
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>>215173787
Chinese anon from the UK... what language are you learning
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>>215170271
I think it's easier to pronounce than French
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>>215173375
go Frankfurt > Seattle > hiking/coastal drive
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>>215174420
That sounds great actually thank you
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bumhp
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>>215173861
Chinese bruh
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>>215177525
Wait you're Chinese?
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>>215178117
no im british
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बाहर ipa : /bɑː.ɦəɾ/

Is a place adverb.

Example of use :

बाहर जाओ। (note: sentence is imperative mode and therefore doesn't need an auxiliary verb to stabilish compound times)
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...ok?
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>>215178306
What a chad
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踢上去
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>>215173889
Everything else is way more complex
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>>215166281
There are fairy tales in German on YouTube with German and English book texts. Although I'm not sure, Swissanon advice was sound. German has cases and thus different and more flexible sentence structure. And grammatical genders. It's good to know these concepts when learning
>>215170271
This >>215173889 French filtrates me, German is okeish pronunciation-wise. Also, German is more time consuming than difficult due a different vocabulary and alien non-intuitive grammar concepts. I hope you won't get discouraged
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>>215180648
It’s okay : I’m already doscouraged !
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>>215164733
Imo Old Norse is worth learning
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>>215180694
Nice thing about this hobby is that it doesn't matter how hard it is, if you want to learn a language you can
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>>215180694
This >>215181351
t. master dabbler
But you have a language you like and want to learn so there is nowhere to dabble for you. Learning a similar but slightly easier language you're not really interested in, just to save 100 or 200 hours of learning, isn't worth it.
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Japanese is so hard, so many months and so little progress...
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>>215181628
Yeah….
For German, you can get B1 in a year but that’s if you do 2 + hours a day. With a teacher preferably.
University or intensive courses are ideal but that’s IF you actually live in that country or can pay tuition fees. Something I can’t do !
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>>215182938
I should never complain about German anymore now
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>>215182938
I studied really inefficiently so despite studying Japanese for about 9 months I haven't made much progress
Granted I don't grind it like most Japanese learners since I care more about French
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If your TL is hard to learn that's a good thing because it means you get to spend more time learning it
You do enjoy the language you're learning, right?
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>>215163800
Nice to see you're still around and helpful as always Serb anon. Could you elaborate on how you use each? I'm just learning about LUTE although I was already vaguely aware of LingQ and LWT. Do you know if it is possible to use LUTE on an android phone?

Is the American in Kazakhstan still around?
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what do people do to convert like whole dictionaries into anki decks? I want to make some
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https://youtu.be/h7H77gZoCxM?si=5QOi_DBYNa3S3Ruy
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Anything like this for chinese? I really wanna understand moon runes
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>>215186073
Like this I mean
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>>215180648
>alien non-intuitive grammar concepts
Such as?
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>>215180734
How does one learn Old Norse?
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>>215186192
Download Old Icelandic : an introductory course by Sigrid Valfells and James E. Cathey
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001017519&seq=7
It's likely not necessary unless you're a retard like I am but once you get to the section in Chapter 1 called 'reference guide', shockingly it's a reference guide and the textbook authors aren't expecting you to get it all immediately
In fact I'd recommend you skip it and come back later if you want
>>215186073
>>215186089
Maybe John DeFrancis's books
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>>215186192
same as any other language
pick up a dictionary and start reading
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>>215183098
Fuck that I wanna be fluent, now.
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>>215164733
I have a theory that if you were fluent in English, German, and Icelandic, then you would automatically be 90+ percent fluent in the others, but I have no way to test that theory.
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>>215182938
I miss Japanese. I said I wouldn't add any more languages but Japanese is so cool and I remember it was so fun because of kanji, and there's so much untranslated content to explore, so many anime and video games, and the English level is low in Japan. So many reasons to learn it. Fuck.
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umm… hey…
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>>215168732
>European
I've literally never been in classroom with what he appears to be arguing against. Maybe it's different for continentals
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>>215188166
>Icelandic
I feel like it would be too conservative to help with understanding most of the other north germanic languages (except for faroese).
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से ipa : /seː/ is an instrumental case indicating, postposition.

Example of use : वह डेढ़ बजे स्कूल जाती है।
(note 1: the only word indicating the gender of the subject is the conjugation of the verb जाना(infinitive indicated by the suffix -ना) performing the gender agreement)
(note 2: the first cononant distal singular pronoun "वह" performing the script of the subject is an voiced labiodental approximant, allophones to "v" and "w" in English)
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>>215189322
what does karo mean I hear jeets saying it all the time
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>>215189501
It is a verb, means "do".
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>>215189191
By conservative you mean it has maintained it's similarity to Old Norse?
I think that actually makes it even more useful, since it hasn't diverged that much from the root of many scandinavian words. And idk what other roots scandi languages have other than whichever German variety. Plattdeutsch?
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>>215189541
Maybe you are refering to the imperative mode "करो"

note difference to the oblique form "करें"
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>>215182985
This applies equally, if not more so, to Dutch. For German, you have plenty of materials for self-study, content, etc.
>>215188218
I would like to learn Japanese, but I think it's too late. By the time I learn it, I will be old, Japan will have turned into India or Middle East, anime and manga will have become Americanised, and the Japanese will have exhausted their reserves of creativity. So I've dabbled in European languages, but I'm not very optimistic either.
>>215186107
Cases. I meant, for English native speakers. I don't think it's that HARD, more like taking extra time to process and learn it
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>>215189738
https://old.reddit.com/r/Iceland/comments/1mxwvzi/can_icelanders_understand_written/
I found a thread from /r/iceland where people say they can't really understand the continental scandinavian languages.
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>>215190178
>By the time I learn it, I will be old
How old are you? I first got interested in Japanese 16 years ago, if I actually knew how to learn a language back then I would have been fluent by now for sure.
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>>215191213
Interesting find, thanks.
The top comment says "You'll maybe recognize half the words" which still leaves me wondering how much of the gaps German knowledge would fill.
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>>215191724
30 soon. I had a greater or lesser interest in Japan in the past. I had weeaboo friends at school, I watched anime like Naruto, the first foreign language I "learned" was Japanese (counting to 10) when I was about 8 years old. I've been listening to city pop for a long time, perhaps not when it was still a large niche, but before it became as popular. As for anime, it varies, there are periods when I watch it, there are periods when I can't stand to look at that crap.
I regret not taking an interest in learning this language much earlier. Even when I was 25, there was still time, now it's over
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>>215183867
>Could you elaborate on how you use each?

Sure.

>Lute
Currently using it with Swedish. I scrape texts and audio from textbooks, graded readers, youtube videos with TL subs etc. anything that I can find that's at a reasonable level for me. I go through the text and look up every single unknown word and read/listen to the whole thing once, then mark the text as "read" which adds a checkmark next to it in the list. Then I can sort by "Last read" column and review any texts that I haven't read in a few days, I read/listen to it once and mark off any words that feel known to me. Once the majority of the words are marked as known, I can decide to "Archive" the text to remove it from the main list, or I can continue reviewing it but focusing on listening only.

>LUTE on an android phone?
Yes, if you're tech-savvy, you can install it and run the server directly on your phone. But it's easier to run the server on your computer and just open up some ports to allow devices on your network to access it.
https://luteorg.github.io/lute-manual/install/android-using-termux.html

>Language Reactor
I mainly use it to watch stuff in TL that's above my level on YouTube and pirated stuff. It gives you dual-subtitles and hover dictionary so you can fill in the gaps in your understanding. It also has a lot of other features that I rarely use. The reader is also quite nice, much faster lookups than Lute, but the free version doesn't let you save words.

>Anki
I use it to memorize the most common words at the beginning. I try to find decks based on the official Routledge frequency dictionaries, but they only exist for the most popular langs. For Swedish, I found some other book but it's very low quality compared to Routledge. I tried to make 10 new cards a day manually from it but it was too tedious so I decided not to use Anki for Swedish and just focus on Lute.
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How old have you guys started learning your TL ?
Not a language app but Radio Garden is also good / if you can understand news or if you want to hear the language/music. I must have saved 80radio stations in German.
> A1.1 without a teacher or before getting one in order to get a good base (notes for me)
DW is god for A1
Easy German
Grammar made easy
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>>215148549
>"How are you getting on?" - is it also correct?
yes
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>>215193620
How do you get plain text from PDFs? The OCR I've tried before wasn't great.
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thinking about hebrew lately, seems interesting and i've heard that there are good akkadian learning resources in it so that could be useful once i have nothing better to do left
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>>215194996
I just type it out by hand.
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>>215195694
Meh, just installed Acrobat pro that an anon mentioned before and it's quite good however it still fails with any formatting so I think I'll stick to reading from the PDF. look-ups are much easier now though.
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>>215193620
What does LUTE offers? I already know in which words I know and which don't. Which text I read is just a line in a journal. Most lookup dictionaries already have built-in parsers.
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>>215193096
God, being old sucks, life is short anons. I regret not being a shameless weeb neet
>>215151626
>>215163251
I'm jealous
>>215194514
Thx
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>>215196943
I don't know, but it's addicting. I like having all my texts and audio in one place, but there's also something compelling about having a visual indicator of progress. You might start off with the text being completely red, covered with unknowns but every review there's less and less of it and the text starts clearing up. I think it's best when you start from day 1 so you have every word you ever read tracked, then when you add a new text, the little status bar shows you the distribution of known vs unknown words, so you can get an idea of the relative difficulty and how many lookups to expect.

But yeah, later down the line you can read a book in your favorite ereader and do the occasional lookup when needed or just enjoy the flow. Lute has a slow workflow, it takes time to do a lookup and write the definition, link the parent etc. but that's the whole point of intensive reading, slowing down and grinding out every little bit you can from a text.
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>Kinderstube

Kind of a cool metonymy I came across in die Welt von Gestern. This word means literally nursery or child's room, but has a large sense of manners or upbringing.
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>>215193096
Sounds like we're around the same age. I don't think I ever thought I would grow out of anime or video games, but to be honest a lot of anime makes me cringe now. But it depends a lot because there's so many different kinds of anime.
I still love JRPGs though, and now I'm pretty sure I'll always be playing them, and it's a shame that I never got good at Japanese because there's still so many JRPGs that never got a translation. Like maybe they have a transcript somewhere online in English but nobody created a patch to put the translated text in the rom.
There's definitely something special about the idea of playing some old JRPG or VN or something from the 90s that never got any translation. Fuck.
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>>215168362
ehrlich gesagt deckt deine Erfahrung nicht mit meiner. Könnte jedoch daran liegen, dass ich immer noch ein Anfänger bin und vielleicht nicht so wahrnehmend wie du bin. Das einzige Buch das ich je auf Französisch fertiggelesen hab bleibt auf jeden Fall Harry Potter 1 was alles andere als kompliziert ist. Ich verbringe die meiste Zeit was Französischlernen angeht beim Hören, also liegt nahe, dass diese nicht leicht zu verstehenen Redewendungen daher unbemerkt bleiben. Sie gehen wahrscheinlich in ein Ohr und raus der anderen sozusagen ohne dass ich sie zur Kenntnis nehmen oder nur langsam. Mein Ansatz beim Französischlernen hat sich absichtlich als ein Eintauch gestaltet. Ich versuche, die Sprache zum Größtenteils zumindest einfach über mich schwemmen zu lassen. Bei Deutsch habe ich die Grammatik und die Regeln achtsam und mühevoll gelernt und so weiter und so fort, aber bei Französisch wollte ich eine andere Herangehensweise ausprobieren.

>>215199210
assuming you are the same Canuck that was bemoaning learning german early, I'd suggest checking this out (assuming you are a beginner/intermediate) https://learngerman.dw.com/de/langsam-gesprochene-nachrichten/s-60040332

Also, as you get better I'd check out spotify or youtube. Public broadcasting has all sorts of news podcast available on both sites (as well as on their own, apple music, etc). Honestly almost too much stuff to pick from. I tried using stuff like what you're doing when I first started and found it to be clunky. Idk my two cents
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>>215200235
It’s level B2 so my vocab is sh*t and I don’t have many words stocked (decks) but I will look at it later, ty
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How do I learn Akashic?
https://youtu.be/ZmQPyTJ-z9c?si=aKfYCLE7WFbbRtIu
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>>215199639
Well, there's a lot of crap. Anime is often hit or miss, some are often lame due to a lack of concept on how to adapt a manga, even if it's a great manga. What puts me off JRPGs is the lack of immersion, e.g. in combat. For a similar reason, I don't like turn-based RPGs with isometric projection (although I like the combat itself, but not in RPGs, where immersion should be king and you should feel the combat and risk)
The worst thing is that Japan and the Japanese media have everything. It is a country that is both so different and so similar because it straddles the worlds of East and West. And there is certainly much to admire about the Japanese people, even if I don't see a bright future for them
I find a similar charm, albeit more in the language itself, in Czech, Slovak, Dutch and Portuguese. Because they sound like languages I know, but from alternative dimension :D
>Fuck
I know
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Anyone wants to speak English with me? I'm tired of learning apps. I found a local conversation club, but they have meetings through zoom... Which is fucking retarded. I'm not paying to speak to other people online
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>>215202870
Today I learned that Mexicants have to pay to use Zoom.
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>>215203020
No, dummy, they want me to pay in order to have zoom meetings with them.
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>>215203020
Also

>Mexicants
Double nigger.
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>>215203020
You have to in China as well
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>>215153136
If you like indie or punk:
>Tocotronic (90s stuff is better imo)
>Stereolab
>Bâton Rouge (French band, not American)
>Cheveu
>Daïtro
>Heimat
>Métal Urbain
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>>215205209
>>215153136
90s tecotronic is the best we got. german pavement
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What meters do poems in your target lang use?
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so you can buy tons and tons of plastic crap directly imported from China via aliexpress, but you can't buy Chinese books? does anyone know a good way to buy books from China abroad?
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>>215201087
i can't tell you how to learn it but i did some warding rituals before i translated this so it should keep me off his scent for a while, i had to get it out to the masses, so cwcville help me. i've seriously angered sonichu's divine representative on earth. Okay, to anybody that gets this, at this moment, I have been without caffeine the entire day. And my brain is very, very much connected to the cosmos and everything. If you look at my eye into my pupils you can see they are small. Yead a scent und of a buh of a of a you can get it then yeah you're a yuh. A big kush lubbuguduvpuhzoiapashit ofpekedaiyo guhzhi de lo ah lo ay gip gaw eers op a dah. Wayyo padikisheyo pada,"loyoge opeyee yim zhoi zhoibegowva; whup clyou beyouva ai tzhe beshyouva bayaola. Ed begiyoo do shif deeb dabadabala. Lup a loiga zod a loidedoiba. The flame abladaway the home of the sonic deia. Ahbelieve is opa dah badah. Blawithi wisho phreydoyaapogayoawatha. Aiaidaitdshi dyop unloquido Apaleti daizopai-ktyo-yoapalaal leekluoaheiaiohshli ahehahlowahlowkekfyopikaloyeyonggriqwuahhyi. Ay goben apalee-ee open lawg schlapagadobeyobiayolapapadoyi padopaya pa ki pa dopaya padopa paschlopa laschlopuh wuh keideep dabdodubahdah schlopagadua ahlbloody tweet schneep dop a doh a dop a doh. A fleep glopadohbade waiyee aiyeblodeopabudheol. Pesheeityapaigobadiobi. Ye greub ya go paschnaiyo pedoba la pai's greubz gooohzblyaaaatda... Yeupapai-oOoOooOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoooOoOOOOO." Aioioiah.
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how difficult is it to understand Akkusativ VS Dativ ?
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>>215207928
Dativ: to/for whom? to/for what?
Akkustaiv: whom? what? or to whom? to what?
I give (to who?) her (what?) flowers
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>Went to IKEA yesterday
>Started watching SHL (Swedish Ice Hockey)
The overwhelming desire to pick up Swedish again has hit me...
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>>215207928
After enough exposure it isn't that hard. With German there are some particular instances where it's a bit confusing (to forgive someone, for example) but if you get familiar with them it becomes easy.
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>>215186073
>I really wanna understand moon runes
In addition to owning a bunch of meme Chinese learning software, I have a university minor degree in Chinese. These are my two cents:

Download a browser extension like LingLook or Zhongwen so that you can hover over characters to see their names and a stroke animation and then just use this post. I'm sure there's an extension for Cantonese, Korean, Japanese etc pronunciations but I'm not familiar with them.

Get some graph paper and write this character first:

vocalizing the strokes as you write it, like “点,横、竖、钩、提、弯、撇、捺”

Now commit the radicals to memory (courtesy of the HSK Academy website), writing them while vocalizing them and following the stroke order. You just need to remember the name and what it looks like.
丨、丶、丿(乀、乁)、乙 (乚、乛)、亅、二、亠、人(亻)、儿、入、八 (丷)、冂、冖、冫、几、凵、刂 (刁、刀、ク)、力、勹、匕、匚、匸、十、卜、卩、厂、厶、又 (ヌ)、口、囗、土、士、夂、夊、夕、大、女、子、宀、寸、小 (⺌、⺍)、尢、尸、屮、山、川 (巛)、工、己、巾、干、幺、广、廴、廾、弋、弓、彐 (彑)、彡、彳、心 (忄)、戈、戶(户)、手 (扌、才)、支、攴(攵)、文、斗、斤、方、无、日、曰、月、木(朩)、欠、止、歹、殳、母(毋、毌)、比、毛、氏、气、水(氵、氺)、火(灬)、爪(爫)、父、爻、爿、片、牙、牛(牜、⺧)、犬(犭)、玄、王(玉)、瓜、瓦、甘、生、用、田、疋(⺪)、疒、癶、白、皮、皿、目、矛、矢、石、示(礻)、禸、禾、穴、立、竹(⺮、ケ)、米、糸(纟)、缶、网(罒、罓)、羊(⺶、⺷)、羽、老(耂)、而、耒、耳、聿、肉(月)、臣、自、至、臼、舌、舛、舟、艮、色、艹、虍、虫、血、行、衣(衤)、西(覀)、见、角、言(讠)、谷、豆、豕、豸、贝、赤、走、足、身、车、辛、辰、辶、阝 (邑)、酉、釆、里、金(钅)、长、门、阝(阜)、隶、隹、雨、青、非、面、革、韦、韭、音、页(頁)、风、飞、食(饣)、首、香、马、骨、高、髟、鬥、鬯、鬲、鬼、鱼、鸟、鹵、鹿、麦、麻、黃、黍、黑、黹、黾、鼎、鼓、鼠、鼻、齐、齿、龙、龟、龠
Those radicals above were ordered combinations of those simple strokes.
The actual characters you will encounter now are ordered combinations of those simple radicals.
>hsk.academy/en/hsk-1-vocabulary-list
It's the same pattern.

If you get stuck on memorization (& I don't recommend Mandarin Blueprint because of how expensive it is, since the only useful information it introduces is this mnemonic technique for memorizing abstract series of information) try
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci.
Never pay money ever

>>215193620
Does Lute have Korean yet?

>>215206625
Temu
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>>215208426
rökare i krysset = smoker in the cross = rocket in the top corner

Important phrase
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>>215162963
The duolingo mafia will take your family now :(
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>>215208527
<3 tack så mycket <3
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>>215206625
Brighton charity shops have a lot for some reason - they are all Taiwanese Mandarin though.
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>>215173861
I am Chinese :3
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>>215208628
>Taiwanese Mandarin
As in their ISBN codes have Taiwanese codes and they are traditional characters
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>>215207224
Sonic totem will I reach B2 by next summer
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>>215208848
Sounds like a yes to me thanks sonic totem
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>>215207928
I see/kill/thank you (acc)
I give/look/send to you (dat)
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>>215208526
>Does Lute have Korean yet?
No official support but I think some people still use it and make it work for them somehow. If you want to spend money, Kimchi Reader is supposedly very good.
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>>215208917
I see you (Ich sehe dich/acc)
and
I look to you (Ich sehe zu dir/dat)
use the same verb but the case makes the difference
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Reading books on my e-ink tablet using koreader with dictionaries. So comfy.
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>>215208969
>Kimchi Reader
>>215209051
>koreader

Ty guise I'll look into it
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I'll never pass phonology class. this shit just doesn't make sense
>pretend
>cambridge dict: /prJˈtend/ (short i) /prəˈtend/
>longman dict: /priˈtend/ (neutralized long e) /prəˈtend/
do people even give a shit what sound you make
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>>215210121
My computer they both say /prJˈtend/
The Longman is robotic tts slop, while the cambridge one is affluent sounding brit tts and some yank tts.
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>>215210121
>do people even give a shit what sound you make
Honestly it doesnt really matter because I know people who emphasise the PRE and some retards who say it as PREET and others who do PRUHtend.
Fuck ass language desu
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>>215210121
Dictionaries are notorious for having obtuse conventions when it comes to pronunciation. I suggest sticking to one source until you figure out how to convert transcriptions from one system to another.
That said, English has a lot of variation in its unstressed vowels. There are many words where it doesn't matter which one you use. Some speakers only have one in their sound inventory, so Lenin and Lennon sound the same. I wouldn't worry too much about how you pronounce them.
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>>215210121
I say it both ways
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God I love language learning both Japanese AND French
We will make it
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What is even the point of learning languages? Even if my ADHD didn't prevent me from retaining information, people are basically the same everywhere. And the truly unique cultures don't even have media in their languages, much less about their languages.
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>>215211436
It's fun. If you don't find it fun then just don't do it.
For me I want to read some manga series I know are not being translated, but I know they are things I would enjoy - so I learn Japanese. It's the only reason I want to learn it outside of the process of learning a language itself being fun.
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It's over
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>>215211436
pay grade raise at work
read foreign news
experience foreign media
also eroge
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>>215211436
helps me achieve some of my life goals (heritage, job, moving abroad)
it's fun and feels way more productive than just aimlessly consooming slop (games, youtube, tv, etc.) in my free time
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>>215211436
Its a hobby
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>>215211625
This guy is a parasite and so is languagejones
Fuck languagejones
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>>215211436
>people are basically the same everywhere
How many countries have you been to?
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>>215211625
I stopped watching him when he ditched Esperanto.
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>>215211436
>What is even the point of learning languages?
to know the language?
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>>215211436
Because it's there
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>>215211436
To me, it felt more interesting before every country started moving toward globohomo. Go to Berlin so I can talk to turks? Go to Paris so I can talk to africans? I'm not spending thousands of dollars to go somewhere shittier than where I live.
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>>215208526
>Temu
I bet it'll be the same as AliExpress but I'll have a look
>>215208628
Curious, maybe Taiwanese students there?
I had a look here and the only thing was a Chinese book translated into English by my current university professor...
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>>215207928
If you put "to" in front of it in English (indirect object) then it is dative
If you don't (direct object) then it is accusative
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I've never used AliExpress so idk
There's some interesting materials
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>>215213022
Nice lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEwVIGnpQY0

worst german input of all time?
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>>215213861
no wonder their asses lost the war with this shit playing on the gramophone
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I'm watching some dude play roblox in my TL
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>>215214423
You should watch a girl do that instead
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>>215214672
Good idea
She has to be funny though
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getting filtered by french writing so hard. oh you forgot the little penis on the c. can't spell for shit.
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>>215213861
German opera with a French name about a mime who’s in love with Columbine and where the singer recreates sounds similar to hallucinations…
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bump
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>>215211881
>languagejones
how? I know he's a turbo-zionist but otherwise his videos are interesting.
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>>215214780
Be nice to my cédille pls
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>>215186231
Is there anything like llpsi for old Norse? A similar book recently came out for Old English.
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Bumperl
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>>215214780
kek what? that’s the most straight forward spelling rule there is in romance languages. if a written c is pronounced like s before a back vowel (a, o, u), it gets the hook because otherwise it wouldn’t be pronounced like s, but actually k.
this pronunciation rule literally exists in english, like in the very word pronunciation, but also cinema or pace, a ç wouldn’t be needed beacuse those are all front vowels (or have been historically), and there c is always pronounced s. however, ask yourself why it is a carnivore and not a sarnivore, a concubine and not a sonsubine, but actually a fassade not a fakade. that’s because facade does need a cedilla in french, making it a façade, so the c can get pronounced like s in front of a, which is a back vowel. why? don’t ask. just accept it.
ponder on this concept for a while, it’s quite simple
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>>215214780
>>215219140
another example (from colloquial spanish):
there’s the famous football club FC Barcelona, and you instinctively know that’s pronounced Barselona (in english). the commonly used nickname for that club is Barça. why ç? because else it would be pronounced Barka. if you encountered a hypothetical word ‘barca,’ you would instinctively say it like barka. but knowing it’s actually said like barsa, you have to put ç instead of c to denote that. it’s the same in french.
française is said fransaise, not frankaise. luckily for you, french has etymological spelling, so you can go by written vowels instead of pronounced ones. knowing c is followed by a and knowing the c there is said like s, you know it must thus be spelt ç. hammer it in xister
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i’m in the copy room at work, nekkid and afraid
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bømp
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Bumperinnio
I think I'll take up some language besides English.
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>>215224093
Study French
>>215217518
No there's nothing
Old Norse textbooks are terrible, at least they are in English
I did find Graded Readings and exercises in old Icelandic by Kenneth G Chapman which seems interesting though
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>>215224130
>old Icelandic
bump but also is that different from old Norse?
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I might learn Russian
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>>215225999
afaik Old Icelandic and Old Norse are pretty much synonyms. Technically there were other dialects, but like 99% of the surviving literature comes from Iceland.
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>>215224130
French filtered me. Twice. This is the language I would have to focus solely on
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>>215151382
¿Qué cantan los poetas andaluces de ahora?
Por el baño preguntan
¿Pero donde el baño?

Con ojos para el baño, miran
¿Pero donde el baño?

Con estomagos para el baño, buscan
¿Pero donde el baño?

¿Es que ya en Andalucía se ha quedado sin baños?
¿Que a caso en los montes andaluces no hay baños?
¿Que en los mares y campos andaluces no hay baños?

No es más hondo el poeta en su oscuro baño encerrado.
Su canto asciende a más profundo cuando,
abierto en el aire,
ya es de todo los hombres.

(ancient andalucian antifa poem)
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>>215178306
femoid moment
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I love my target language, Deutsche Sprache has the best videos online. I just listen to this woman on TikTok and I learn word.
Unironically though, wish me luck because this language is killing me, idk how I will get better or good :/
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>>215226704
Just learn Italian, aka heterosexual french.
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>>215229364
Disgusting creature.
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>>215231095
I like it. But Germanic languages seem easier, Spanish is bigger and I like it too, and both Spanish and German seem more practical. I love Japanese too, but I'm seeing more and more blackpills coming from that country
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It's over for me, I'll be in the dabbler hell forever, forgot I said anything
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>>215232791
>I love Japanese too, but I'm seeing more and more blackpills coming from that country
Did you fall for the fake-japanese accounts on twitter ran by indians?
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>>215232827
No… don’t give up my polish/monaco/indonesian anon
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>>215231156
She motivates me to learn German so that’s good, you just feel lucky about your life when you see adults like this online :/
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>>215232865
Sarrr we need to import more browns sarrr, our population is dying we need brown people to outnumber us sarrrr.
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>>215226467
дeлaй этo
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>>215229364
I really like this series, there's only 4 episodes so far but it's well-structured around teaching about 50 words per video in the simplest way
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgyD0mkULdFEqve1b-tlfEttpZjtbv-mr
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>>215233314
Idk who u are but tysm for sharing <3
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>>215232865
https://youtu.be/Koow0Q6EiXU
And not only him, a lot of Japanese ppl. Similar to Italian and Italy, 80s and 90s were better
>>215233037
Still learning English, though
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Language learning blackpill: having a TL speaker gf/bf will always be the best method and get you the fastest result with the biggest gains. So long as you only speak in TL, it's constant immersion with a study partner with presumably infinite patience and you can talk about whatever you like.

No amount of ALG Peppa pig gooning or anki reps can possibly match it
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>>215232827
You might dabble yourself to a pretty good level if you're consistent with it
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wtf is wrong with danish? Why aren't half the letters pronounced???
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>>215234842
The same with french
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>>215234632
What if you're ugly
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>>215234632
Autobiographical memory is much stronger than other types of memory. That's a big factor, besides the forced immersion, continuous feedback, increased motivation that come with having a gf/bf.

But you can and ideally you should make the input in your TL as meaningful, involved and intimate as possible. When such input is also reading/listening to novels and other big boy literature is when you transcend.
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>restive means restless, agitated
God damn you, English.
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Bumperl
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>>215234632
im working on it
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lingosteve noooooo!!!
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I really regret listening to all the natural acquisition/CI purist retards who say you should never translate and only learn things by contextual acquisition. I literally learn 3-5x faster with audio + transcript + navigation hotkeys + hover dictionary for word lookup.

I don't know why people think you would learn a language faster by having to notice and hear an unknown word 10+ times in different contexts rather than just hovering over it and instantly seeing what it means. Imagine wasting huge chunks of your life watching fucking peppa pig and pororo over and over
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>>215240138
Do you know what the word "comprehensible" means?
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>>215240369
there is no magic method to create content where all of the words will be clearly understood from context. First of all once you know the first couple thousand words there's a huge drop-off in frequency so you will never get to the mythical state where you, as a beginner/intermediate learner, will know 98% of the words you encounter. Secondly most words that aren't objects are not immediately intuitive from context, it takes a long-ass time and lots of repetition to acquire them just from hearing them.

The one guy I know who tried to learn spanish that way was still at like high b1 after 1500 hours.
Or you can compare khazumotto who spent hours a day consuming content with a pop-up dictionary and reached a high level of fluency in 16 months, to matt vs japan who copied his exact method except without word lookup and it took him over 5 years to not even get to the same level of competence

the 'don't translate' retards are in fact retards
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>>215240369
pretty sure it is a repost
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>>215240138
>>215240369
Most of the time it's a very inefficient barely comprehensible input. I think it's popular only because of a few unique qualities and biases Japanese learning has. Anime is by far the fav input amongst Japanese learners. Anime or any animated content really is the best kind of input. It's fun. Voice acting is a treat. And you get many explanations in animated form.

There are few other reasons why for Japanese this approach makes more sense. Kanji provide clues. Another one is Japanese just like Chinese have more compact vocabularies. Learning N thousands of words covers a higher percentage of spoken and written Japanese compared to Russian.

It's still terribly inefficient even if you're mindful and even if you rewatch the content. However there is one form of actually comprehensible content :monolingual dictionaries (besides Rosetta Stone and natural method courses for beginner). If you enjoy reading dictionary entries or if you can find a decent compact monolingual dictionary I think it's worth it. Oxford Advanced learner's Dictionary uses a selection of like 3k words in their definitions, you literally practice your core vocabulary while looking up. Perfect for beginners and intermediary levels. Unfortunately it's not always possible to find such dictionary for Anki or for lookup in many languages.
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>>215241348
>>215240138
Billingual dictionaries with example sentences are fine in my book, but I do buy the argument that monolingual definitions without examples suck.
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>>215241506
billingual definitions* (monolingual definitions without examples suck too, of course)
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I finally enjoy using Anki. First thing I do when I wake up.
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English IPA convention is so outdated and defective that they have to write ə smaller to show its not pronounced in words like /apəl/ and /bʌtən/
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>>215244066
>ap·ple / ˈa-pəl
from Merriam-Webster
>/ˈæpl/
from Oxford Learner's Dictionaries
>æpəl
from Collins
Because you shouldn't be so precise and obsessive with IPA, it's just a hint on how to pronounce something. Many dictionaries have their own versions, many languages share the same IPA characters for slightly different sounds
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Just found out about a structural grammar nonsense in Hindi.

From my research it seens that the second person coloquial pronoun "तुम" ipa: /t̪ʊm/ aways asks for a plural agreement from an habitual verb.

Example : "तुम साढ़े पाँच बजे कहाँ होतो हो।"

Notice there is no honorific agreement, and the auxiliary verb is conjugated singular, however Hindi grammar structure aways asks for a plural agreement on habitual verb to second person coloquial pronoun.
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>kills language learning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nbNvOjbW5g

>der Butter
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>>215244971
>weeds out the dabblers
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>>215244468
>Because you shouldn't be so precise and obsessive with IPA
what?
IPA has three types of notation; phonemic, phonetic, and graphemic. Phonemic and phonetic notations are narrow and broad, respectively. You are absolutely as precise as can be with the former. Broad transcriptions rely on phonemic notation which is imprecise because it has to be, since phonetic realizations of phonemes varies, and more precise transcription isn't always necessary. For example, if your /p/ can only ever occur aspirated, [pʰ], or if the variation [pʰ~p] occurs but bears no phonemic meaning, it's needless to make the phonemic symbol /pʰ/. That distinction is instead made in a narrow transcription.

For this reason, every language can essentially use whatever the fuck for broad transcription as long as it makes sense for the language and to its speakers, but narrow transcription is a transcription of actual speech.
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>>215245744
>Phonemic and phonetic notations are narrow and broad
flip the first pair around... I really should proofread my posts
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>>215245744
You're just an autistic sperg, he was clearly referring to the kinds of phonemic transcription that are usually given by dictionaries. Everything you wrote is essentially correct, but there was no reason to post it in the first place.
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>>215219140
>>215219348
Bin nicht der Ami den du geantwortet hast, aber fand deinen Post aufklärend. Bin dabei Französisch zu lernen aber war mir dieser Regel nicht bewusst. Witzigerweise war ich unter dem Eindruck (bis ich heute deine Erklärung gelesen habe) dass Barca Barka ausgesprochen wird. Ich schaue mir keinen Fußball an und kann mit Spanisch überhaupt nicht anfangen. Also man lernt nie aus.
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범프
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>>215225999
>bump but also is that different from old Norse?
Old Norse encompasses roughly 800 years of constant language development, changes, and diverging dialects and dialect groups, each undergoing unique developments and sound changes not shared by their peers
Old Icelandic is a medieval* (western) dialect from the classical period observed after the settlement of Iceland with unique developments
conflating OI with ON is retarded

* = post-Viking age

>>215226671
>afaik Old Icelandic and Old Norse are pretty much synonyms.
to the uneducated, perhaps

>99% of the surviving literature comes from Iceland
absolutely not, and the OI corpus is periodically restricted anyway
medieval Icelanders were, however, hyperproductive, and the OI contribution to the corpus, and the academic fields pertaining to it, are IMMENSE and INVALUABLE
at best you could default to OI when speaking of Classical Old Norse, but that's also where adjacent dialects up their corpus game, so
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>>215245836
>You're just an autistic sperg
Never tried coming off as if I weren't.

>but there was no reason to post it in the first place.
there was, because he said
>Because you shouldn't be so precise and obsessive with IPA
which means all of the IPA is the same or should be treated the same
and the post he replied to is absolutely right; English IPA conventions are severly outdated and in dire need of revision
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>>215239957
>Sandberg
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another good slowly spoken/comprehensible input Russian channel
https://www.youtube.com/@Sveta_RandomRussian/videos
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bump
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>>215211625
This guy knows less about learning languages than the fake polyglots he exposes.
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>>215239957
lots of noticers in the comments
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why the fuck aren't the routledge colloquial audio tracks labeled by lesson / what track they are in that lesson? what the fuck?
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I choose my TLs based on how friendly and helpful the native speakers are.

Learning Spanish has been infinitely more pleasant than learning German.
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child's plural in middle english was 'childer'. At some point people added a second plural suffix, so now we have children.
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>>215244468
The issue here isn't a sound being represented inaccurately, it's that there's a sound being shown where nobody says one lol
It just misleads and confuses learners
At that point when you have to learn rules about transcription standards to actually say them properly then the standard is clearly outdated and needs to be changed
Imagine if in French IPA they showed silent final consonants
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>>215247221
Thanks, I didn't know that one but looks good.
I'm currently watching this channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taC8gMwUTZQ
Imo a lot of the videos are kinda short and about weird topics, but his sister is cute
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Is "रात को" ipa :/ɾaːt̪ ko/ an oblique compound temporal adjective?

See : पीटर रात को घर आता है।
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bumo
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>>215211436
>tfw working 20h/wk earning at least double what people my age make wageslaving because teenage me decided to hyperfocus into english learning
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>>215245943
gern geschehen o7
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>>215252569
you may already know these but here's some others I've seen
https://www.youtube.com/@ComprehensibleRussian/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@InRussianFromAfar/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@RussianwithDasha/videos
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just did yesterday's and today's anki reps
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>Start learning Japanese grammar
>Sentences stop looking like illogical mush and start appearing more cohesive than I first thought
Japanese is so strange but it's really fun seeing how they build sentences. Maybe I shouldn't have waited half a year before giving grammar studies the proper attention it needs
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Fuck it. I'm back to learning a second foreign language. But I'll focus on two of the four: Spanish, Italian, Japanese, and German. Two easy ones or one easy and one hard. Wish me luck
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which is more kino:
V2 with underlying SOV (west germanic)
V2 with underlying SVO (north germanic)
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I know English, Latin, some Spanish and I live in an area where German dialects sound 'frenchified', so I have good start conditions BUT I can't get a word out. Nothing sticks.
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>>215263939
anyway I keep studying. You should speak the language of your closest neighbor.
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>>215263995
Why not polish?
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>>215265090
I live at the french border, never been to the east
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>>215265703
if you live by the border than you better visit French side more often, frequent cafes, clubs, join some hobby club etc.
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>>215266084
don't you think they hate germans who try to learn their language
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>>215267589
The probably do, do don't expect they are going to nanny you, but it will help you with your block. Try speaking a few phrases, ordering something, doing activities which don't require sophisticated communication like playing sports. You Germans love walking, hiking, sightseeing, asking stupid questions, right? Do that also. Maybe you can also find a French language exchange partner.
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Thank you, Satan.
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>>215268603
what the helly
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>>215268823
nice waste of time bro ¿dónde está el baño?
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I think I might dabble with Finnish
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>>215269878
nope
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>>215269878
do it
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>>215270097
Cope
>>215271025
Thank you, I shall.
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page 10
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Surely I'm not the only here trying to learn modern Greek right...?
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Anything more, anything less?
>Italian
Peppa Pig, refold Anki deck, Dolce Vita with Luca & Marina or Italy Made Easy to drill it a bit because I don't remember much. There is very little comprehensible input content for Italian, especially for beginners, but I recently found this channel: Italiano sì. Seems alright for now
>Spanish
Dreaming Spanish, refold Anki deck
>German
refold Anki deck, A Frequency Dictionary of German Anki deck, Extr@ auf Deutsch
>Japanese
Renshuu (only kana for now), one of these famous Anki decks in the future
I won't avoid speaking, I'll practise my pronunciation a little in the meantime, but I won't focus too much on speaking either: I will save difficult words and expressions for the future, when I am more familiar with languages. For now, understanding and knowing the answers in my head is the most important thing for me
Motivational song of the evening: https://youtu.be/jbawSzR-tLU
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>>215273928
>Surely I'm not the only here trying to learn modern Greek right...?
Why though?
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trip to spain in two months :).
been working on my speaking a lot lately. I have another italki conversation in an hour. Overall at a strong B2 level.
anybody have some comfy spain kino to watch? preferably a film that has subtitles. I need to practice comprehension with a general spanish accent more (will be in Málaga).



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