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I don't like the OP imageI won't be participating in this threadBye
whats the best way to make everything in internet (social media) my target lanuage? I tried everything from vpns to watching some stuff in TL but after some time everything becomes english againmy TL is french
>>215912340im pretty sure in youtube you can switch your language to your TL. the best option i remember from my inpooot days is just to make a separate account for inputting so your normal recommendations dont get mixed with stuff in your TL
>>215912340Switch your language in chrome/your web browserIt makes websites automatically switch to your selected language
>>215912404Google has made this a hassle to do for websites like Youtube. By default, if you make another account, it'll switch all your accounts to the language you switch to.
>>215912293simple as, should've let the serb bake it
>>215912521yeah im not saying you should shoot up google headquarters but it wouldnt a bad thing for those bastards to learn that raping the population for years on end has consequences
Learn Farsi.
>>215914123yeah have fun unironically being the subject of investigation because half of your conversation partners have family in the IRGC
Building rapport with language partners is hard. They've got no reason to care that youre trying to learn a different language so you can't develop the necessary relationship for fluid dialogue anyway. Building the first relationship was hard but it lasted over a year, and now I have to start from square one again? I would prefer to just kill myself (ie. Become an alcoholic and follow a rugby league team)
>>215914519What's your tl
>>215914545Russian but i think I'd get the same treatment in any language.
>>215914570learn from my mistake >>215907856
>>215914884Why did it suck? Greentext story time
>>215914123> The Gerudo sage
>>215914884which country?
>>215914884believing the zigger shit is so ridiculous though. no ordinary person can relate to you and your experiences are irrelevant to them.
What are some low intermediate shows in mandarin i can torrent, ideally with a separate sub file to simulate something like lingopie?I'm back on the chinese wagon but i refuse to read those miserable HSK textbooks ever again. By low intermediate i mean stuff at the level of like tea time chinese and maomi chinese.
is hindi declining?
>>215914959I assume you have never played CS2 with Russians? They are quite a mixed bag. Bipolar ass nights. They are kinda the same in real life. They drink and drink and they go from joyful happy to scrappy little wankers with him minutes.
>>215915094>alcoholic gamers are representative of the entire countrynah
>>215915094>nightsI typed niggas wrong lol
>>215915109I guess I should have been more specific, but I have actually been to Russia a few times way ages ago. You would see them on the trains drinking. One minute happy as can be. Next minute yobbish behaviour. It's quite scary to be around.If you ever get the chance to go, Omsk is quite nice.
>>215915155i see this in australia as well, i dont think its a unique phenomenon to russians.yeah maybe one day, who knows. i might do a TEFL course and see if i can teach or some shit over there. if it depresses me, i can easily kill myself.
>>215915222>if it depresses me, i can easily kill myself.powerful mindset anon
>>215915222I mean you see it here as well, but it's like a different type of yob. It's hard to describe really.
Anyone tried to learn Burmese before?
>>215915244its becoming slowly clear to me im not welcome on this shithole planet so its my best option>>215915255fuckheads are gonna be fuckheads, what else can you do? just let them be and if they get too close, tell them to fuck off and run away tb h, there's no point putting yourself in danger and trying to fight them.
>>215915273There's a guy on /trv/ has posted about trying it
>>215909722yes the syntax is almost 1:1, most of the japanese particles have a 1:1 counterpart with korean morphemes, and a lot of the vocabulary has shared sino roots. probably takes 30-40% of the time to learn japanese if you already know korean
stimming with shortform video in TL
I've heard that scandinavian languages are easy to learn. Is it true?And if they are, is it feasible to learn one of these languages (norwegian, swedish, or danish) as a sort of "extra" language while I simultaneously learn another more difficult one?
>>215916606>And if they are, is it feasible to learn one of these languages (norwegian, swedish, or danish) as a sort of "extra" language while I simultaneously learn another more difficult one?why would you even want to do thisits crazy ive been on /lang/ since ~2022 and people keep asking the same questions
>>215916641To be able to speak 4 languages and become a polyglot gigachad?
a very cozy German channel due to her gentle diction and video editinghttps://www.youtube.com/@deutschmitrieke
>>215916641>its crazy ive been on /lang/ since ~2022 and people keep asking the same questionsit was the same when /lang/ was new too, about 4-5 years before then
>>215917019has there been any contact from jordanon?
>>215915069from what I heard they mostly write in English on the internet, or even when they do write Hindi they use the Latin alphabet. but I don't know, there's no way it's dying
>>215917027whenever he last posted is the last anyone heard from him, I reckon
>>215914519Not sure why you're dooming so badly. You've given up before you've even gotten the chance to truly try again. Why? You don't seem like the annoying person you think you are, but you need to shake your insecurities otherwise they'll just ruin any other language partner prospects you might find
It's kind of crazy how useful Assimil is, considering the method is literally just something some guy made up.
>>215917759Im depressed
Learn French.
>>215918548The French have ruined that dream for me
>>215917920I’m sure it works great for European languages but the east asian books suck ass, which makes sense. I think similar languages benefit way more from stuff like parallel reading day 1.
>>215918559Why?
>>215903058Still waiting for your roadmap for Modern Standard Arabic in the comprehensible inpoot way.
>>215919102Why are you so offended by someone criticizing Anki? Just study how you want, who cares.
>>215919316I'm not offended. If you suggest a way, defend it and share your knowledge. If not, you don't know shit.
>>215919346I'm actually an Ankifag, kek. I just think you're being unnecessarily jumpy because Arabic was certainly the very last thing on that anon's mind when he made that post.
>>215919387I know that already. If you're not sure about other langs or don't know anything about them, don't suggest anything. Simple as that.
>>215915069RARE
कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ कार्ड मत भुनाओ
>>215917027He died senpai, RIP
those flirty omegle videos make me uncomfortable
Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
>>215922256I actually like how Russian sounds, especially when women speak it I think it sounds nice.Not gonna learn it tho.
>>215922256idk i like it
>>215922256This but German
>>215922564idk i like it
>>215917027Last we heard he had secluded himself into his studies. God speed Jordie.
>>215922256Russian isn't that bad. I don't see why anyone would learn your language though.
might dabble in bulgarian
MY PRONUNCIATION SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>215922843Lol. Average American.
>>215922901Suck my dick you yellow toothed beans on toast eating sheep fucking scally cap wearing cousin fucking bo ol uh wa oh drinking FAGGOT
>>215922943Hoes mad
आपकी रंग भुरा है।
>>215918548J'apprends déjà depuis quelques mois mon chum
have a bump
have two
No lust provoking image results in bumps.What a shit thread
>>215927044no challenge either
why didnt my parents just teach me their language when i was 4 instead of wanting me to learn it 25 years later
>>215927439Idk, ask them
I really wanted to drop either French or German because it's so slow learning two langs at once, but I can't bring myself to drop either one of them.I see myself using German more than French, but I'm much further with my French progress than German and it's so much easier that I could probably be fluent much faster.Any time I think of dropping one or the other, I realize that I can't, so I'm stuck learning both hyper-slowly.It's fine except it sucks during these times where I now have to work 2 hours to buy the same thing that cost me 1 hour of work only 3 or 4 years ago. Fucking shit man. I'm tired.
>>215927439i did before, they said "i was hard on them"
>>215927474oops meant to reply to >>215927457
>>215927474Why weren't you an agreeable child
>>215927567i cant remember. anyways its such a stupid excuse
>>215927606You don't need em anyway. I believe in you, buddy
>>215927474What's your native language. I hope it's not some gay abbo shit.
>>215927762thanks goat. i believe that u can learn whatever u wanna learn too
>>215927468I'd just focus on French but do a little German on the side. French can't take you that long if you're a native Portuguese speaker. Switch things around once you're fluent
>>215927468Take the hobby pill.
>>215916606They're considered "easy" but it's relative to other languages, like nightmare mode languages like Japanese. Make no mistake, learning a scandi lang will still take years of your life, there are no freebies. If you want something "extra" to learn on the side that still counts as a language, try Toki Pona.
>>215930544 Learning toki pona gives you gender dysphoria
>>215919102If you read the replies to my post you will see that I acknowledged that I don't have experience with languages like Arabic or Mandarin where I would imagine CI would come with severe limitations due to the unique writing systems. Nonetheless, it should be something incorporated into everyone's learning program even if it's not the exclusive method someone uses to learn the language and for most people it'll be sufficient.
>>215931333ALG gooners cope with this by claiming they don't have to learn how to read or writeIn the mandarin learning community there is a sizeable number of these people They don't learn characters at all Usually they give up pretty quick tho
>>215931682And there’s a bunch of niggas in the mandarin community who will study 3,000 characters individually without learning to read (reading is comprehensible input)
>>215930220What do you mean?
>>215930220yeah I don't care about the practicality or even speaking fluently anymore, I'm only here for enjoyment learning to comprehend. I'd be playing video games otherwise
>>215931682Well I definitely don't endorse that sort of retarded cope. I would be curious to know if there have been attempts to modify the CI system to suit those sorts of languages. As the other anon said, reading is input, and I suppose it'd just be a matter of finding ways to effectively introduce a learner to the writing system through texts suitable to their level (though obviously a more complicated process than it would be if you were teaching a western language using the Latin alphabet or even something like Cyrillic)
>>215931902I mean: treat language learning like a hobby, an activity done for the sake of enjoyment. When you shift your focus to enjoyment in the moment, you tend to get more engaged and you tend to do more hours per day anyway, so it's a win-win.
>>215931858Nobody does that tho
>>215931214I don't get why trannies are attracted to the company, because it is just cultural appropriation and infantilisation of cultures the creator either knowingly or unconsciously deemed stupid.It's literally just a fake Tok Pisin. The creator explicitly went out of their way to make a "simple" language and based it upon a Pacific islander language.Is that based or cringe?
>>215931333Arabic immersion is quite easy. You just go to morning prayers with your habibi, then all the other subsequent prayers. Always prayer with the Muslim prayer channels on the TV.
>>215931682Confucius say blind man learn speak language with no eye. Gwailou learn to speak language with no brain.
>>215932853thank you Mei Ling
>>215932225This is good advice, and I do try to do that, but how do you suppress the part of your brain that just wants to reach the goal of fluency? I'm enjoying the process, especially since I dropped anki for French and just watch series now, but I'm also enjoying German even though I'm still on anki. It's cool that I can watch these anime and other series but damn I wish I started like 12 years ago.
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>>215933224I don't really think about fluency at all. It's just this distant abstract thing in my mind, like maybe getting to a point where my TL feels the same way English feels in my mind, that would be great but I have no expectation of when I will get there.If you have a lot of goals that depend on fluency, I can see how that could make you restless and feel like the language learning is an obstacle rather than the point. Maybe figure out the minimum level you actually need. Like if you want to live in France/Germany, you can do it way sooner.
>>215933224>goal of fluencyGrim. Your goal should only be to have a good time.
>>215934885>>215934975Do you guys not care about making progress?
>>215922816Bulgarian is a Slavic language with its own alphabet, completely free word order and stress, insane areal convergence, including unintentionally with Scandinavia, tons and tons of loanwords, and the phonemes aren't easy either. You will get basically no free lunch when trying to learn it. I guess we don't use Chinese characters.It is also insanely fucking useless and dying out fast.
>>215935394Confucius say matter not how slowly you go, as long as you don't stop.A happy man who worries not about progress, but about enjoying the process will have more mental fortitude to overcome the hardships that come with panicking over non tangible goals.
>>215935488>the phonemes aren't easyI count only three that an English speaker should have trouble with? /r/ /x/ /ʎ/>dying out fastsadness
>>215935488>dying out fast??
>>215935654In the early stages, the only source of enjoyment is the quick and noticeable progress. Aside from that, it fucking sucks. I'm glad I'm past that for my two TLs.The process now is enjoyable (more or less) but I just want to know how much longer, like come on man. Feels like I've been stuck at intermediate for eternity now. Fuck. When will I at least understand 98-100% so I can have an easier time watching/listening to content?
>>215937168Replacement rate of 1.81 in 2023 Its over
>>215937522Even India's below replacement level by nowAfrica's are all dropping
>>215937168I would be suprised if there's even 5 million actually left.Also, as in every other European country, the natives are increasingly just saying half their sentences in English rather than bother figuring out how to phrase what they want to say in the native tongue.
>>215937566Inshallah it will drop to 0 tomorrow.
>>215937522>>215937566>>215938734good, no more young workers, that means they'll have to perfect automation so no one will have to work anymore and everyone can NEET
>>215937402It takes several thousands of hours. Keep being consistent and you're get there eventually.
>>215939010Roger, will do
I don't use the handwritten Cyrillic style when I write and I don't really care to learn it I can pretend I'm a robot printing text
>>215940730This is a sign of low education in Russia. Even the most ghetto born sub humans there can write cursive.
>>215941074Good thing I'm not in Russia and instead having fun with my life!
>>215941110If you are learning Russian, are you really having fun with your life?
>>215941224Engaging in and enjoying hobbies is fun, yes.
>>215941286Good for you.
>haven't studied german in years>watch a german kurzgesagt video>understand almost everythingit's absolutely insane how easy euro languages are compared to asian
>>215941524same>havent studied Spanish in three years>pick up Borges book>understand pretty much everything apart from a few longer wordsbut if I try to speak it I can only produce a Chinese-Spanish mangled mess
>>215941524>>215941702>Have studied French for 4 years in the uni, haven't brushed it up for years>barely make out half of spoken French>read it very comfortably
when saying your name while speaking your tl, do you say it with your tl's accent (?) or do you instead say it like how it's pronounced in your native language?
>>215942968In Chinese I have a Chinese name which is completely different from my English nameIn spanish I say it with an accent
>>215942968I adopt a new name in that language. If I were to learn Spanish, my name would become Pablo.If I were to learn German, my name would become Hans.If I were to learn Swedish, my name would become Bjorn.
I am dropping Spanish. What should I learn instead? French?
HE'S BACK!
>>215943652Uzbek
RESURRECTUS EST
>>215943652Your loss, amigo.
>>215943731Uzbek women are better, which is why Jordie should learn it
>>215943747central asian women are all fat unfortunately
>>215943881You talk out your ass. Uzbek women are supreme. You can deny it now, but you will one day learn the truth.
Might dabble with Mongolian for a bit
>>215943881Only the old ones
>>215943652Йopди, вpeмe e.
>finish job at 10pm (cook in a place with a restaurant and pub)>usually stay a bit on friday nights because there's a good ambiance and colleagues have drinks>I'm the oldest one, 35yo, most are 20 to 30>a cutie I've never seen that might be 18-19 jjoins our group, a bit drunk>she only knows one of the waitress and is a bit lonely, makes eye contact with me regularly and come close when there's an occasion>I know I won't push if further because I'm done with the young ones now, too much trouble>I still stay for some reason, love the attention I guess>feel like I really have to go home now where my gf is probably already sleeping>it's now way later than the hour I usually leave>at 1:15 realise I need to do my 350+ anki reps and read a few pages before I sleep>say goodbye quick and run homeNow I understand why friends say I'm an autist with those languages.
Men are dogs
>long, irrelevant and boring story about my life>so then i realized i forgot to do my anki, silly me :)
>>215945024When there is no thread challenge, the least you can do is bling post in you TL.Nobody cares about your day - however if you do it in your TL it is both good practice for yourself and for those in the thread learning your TL.
>>215945184>bling postBlog post
>>215945184blog posts bump this dying thread so it's cool
>>215945447Let it die so a more lively lust provoking image thread can take it's place. It's that simple. It's scientific proven that a good OP (boobies) gets engagment
日本語勉強なんて俺はのらりくらりしてあまり時間費やしてなくて大変が、ノベルゲーやホロライブはいつもためになる。
>>215945577頑張ってください!!!!
I dont know if its me trying to be subversive weeb but I think Korean sounds cooler than Japanese. At least when girls speak it.
>>215945672It sounds cool when that North Korean news lady speaks it.Same in that one song about working hard for the country or some shit.
>>215945651ありがとう。英語カラオケ配信が終わったら勉強します!>>215945672Korean always sounds very robotic to me. I know imnida or whatever is the same as desu but something about it just sounds strange.
>learn english, french, spanish, portuguese>can travel across every country throughout all of north and south america and speak to virtually everyone>learn one asian language>takes as much time as it would to learn all the above languages>useful only in one country
>>215912024Icelandic.
>>215945672It sounds very emotional.
>>215946473fair enough but my passion is where it is
>>215946473To be fair, Mandarin unlocks more people than Spanish, Portuguese, and French combined.
>>215946710Its a shame how much of a clusterfuck Mandarin is. Second biggest population, arguably dominating the world. But there is just no way Im ever attempting it.
Mandarin naysayers in ITT need to watch more Hepsima and see how the Chinese hoes go crazy for him. That could be you.
>>215946967just be white
>>215946967I wanna try out Mandarin after my Japanese is better but I hear Chinese women are pretty rude and have no manners, at least compared to Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese women. They're like the Americans of Asia. At that point you might as well pick up the easier Vietnamese women.
>>215947094I hear so much contradicting information. Ive heard Chinese women are actually>the most trad, way more trad than Japanese>but also they are super gold diggers and materialistic>vapidWith Japanese Ive also heard they are trad, but then other people say they cheat all the time. And the culture is changing and gen-z Japs are "party sex drugs" just like Americans.I dont know anymore. I cant get a feel on it anymore.
>>215947246all the asians I know hate chinese. On asian videogame servers 'are you chinese?' is a standard insult. they're viewed sort of similarly to how euros view england
>do anki for like 5 minutes>get migraine
>>215947413CI with word-lookup is virtually always a better use of time anyways
>>215947513whats that? i installed anki but i hate it so far
>>215947513I need to burn the funny chinese scribbles into my brain, unfortunately
>>215947246I could believe Japanese women cheat more than Chinese women, but Chinese culture as a whole seems far more materialistic than Japanese, especially with the women. Either way, learning Mandarin sounds fun and there will probably be a lot more popular Chinese media in the coming decades like how Hong Kong media used to be popular
>>215947628I remember reading japanese cheating statistics were higher because they have different concepts of what relationships and cheating are, maybe that's weeabo cope though
>>215947628>ifunnyConsider suicide retarded zoomer.
>>215947628Thats a good point. Japanese and Korean I personally have more uses more. But Chinese is is almost certainly solid futureproof. Reminder the numbers we dealing with:>South Korea: 51.7 million>Japan: 123.8 million>China: 1.4 BILLIONIts not even close.
>>215947628The problem with Chinese media is that it's so incredibly state controlled and curated, for ages now they've formed the idea that any kind of content creation has to be patriotically focused and to somehow advance the idea of muh grorious nation.It's hard to create anything creative or interesting out of that notion, plus copyright enforcement doesn't exist in China so you don't really have bottom-up media production that can sustain itself (similar issue in the West now with the streaming profit model but still not as bad).I do think the younger generation in China is a bit more savvy and as a country they're headed towards more of an existential reckoning as growth slows and it becomes harder for the state to fix unemployment issues, which may encourage more individual cultural enterprise, but I don't think things will change anytime soon.
>>215948209>The problem with Chinese media is that it's so incredibly state controlled and curatedI used to believe this, and its obviously true to some degree, but I think its mostly overstated. They seem to be finding success with games like Genshin Impact and with their equivalent of anime (Donghua) and manga (manhua). They have tons of ancient traditions they can portray in interesting ways to global audiences like Japan does. >copyright enforcement>existential reckoning as growth slowsYea they gotta figure this out and get a handle on the corruption before more people trust them. I think they still have a while before growth really starts to slow down, but I don't see how they could possibly manage their population timebomb without major unrest.
>>215946928>how much of a clusterfuck Mandarin isHow so?
>>215948209>The problem with Chinese media is that it's so incredibly state controlled and curated, for ages now they've formed the idea that any kind of content creation has to be patriotically focused and to somehow advance the idea of muh grorious nation.Based, so no lefty political messaging, trannies, or woke. I like what Im hearing.>plus copyright enforcement doesn't exist in ChinaBAAAASED. So total freedom as opposed to whiny bogus copyright stuff hindering creative freedom (Pokemon company suing Palworld by saying no game can ride animals or through spheres)(various music artists suing each other because a few notes are similar)This sounds amazing. Maybe I do need to learn Mandarin
>>215948302>They seem to be finding success with games like Genshin Impact and with their equivalent of anime (Donghua) and manga (manhua)Fair, but a lot of this stuff seems quite derivative to me; that's the other problem with a lot of Chinese media, they're basically very good at copying other stuff but it lacks a lot of creative spark of its own, a lot of their stuff feels like someone said, yep, let's make a shonen ripoff, rather than making a story the creator feels personally attached to.>They have tons of ancient traditions they can portray in interesting ways to global audiences like Japan does. Yes and no imo. There is a lot of fantastic stuff in their history they can draw on, but imho a lot of the tradition got wiped out with retarded CCP shenanigans since they've been in power. There's still a broad relationship most Chinese have with folklore but it's really slimmed down.>I think they still have a while before growth really starts to slow downThis is true, the growth itself won't be an issue for a while, but there have been genuine issues with employment for a while now. I think a lot of their current crazy manufacturing drive is basically to keep things ticking over and keep people working, but if Trump is firm on tariffs and other countries follow suit (to make sure they don't become a dumping ground for all the stuff that was originally intended to go to America) there could be a huge slowdown there.Chinese people and the state haven't had to address hard times for so long now, I don't know how they're react to popular discontent.
>>215948439tonescharacterssounds that only exist in Chinesevery unusual grammar system completely unlike Indo-European languages (no tense/ conjugation, have to use context to figure lots of stuff out like if a sentence is talking about something past/ future tense)
holy chink shills on vpns
>>215946967I could learn every language in the world and still wouldn't be able to find a woman willing to have sex with me
>>215948439>tones>memorizing 3000 characters to reach 8th grade level
>>215948505I agree that a lot of their media is too derivative and blatantly ripped off from someone else, but I get the impression they cover stuff specifically about Chinese culture and history very well. For example, I can imagine a Kingdom or Berserk-style manhua or donghua about the Three Kingdoms period that follows different characters. Something kinda like Game of Thrones. And most westerners know nothing about Chinese history so it would be a good way for China to change their global image. They could absolutely find some niche to make their own as long as they stay away from blatant CCP propaganda.
>>215948718>memorizing 3000 characters to reach 8th grade levelAlways get annoyed when people say this shit, you have to memorise the meaning of words in English or any other alphabetical language same as in Chinese. Just because there are more constituent parts of a character than there are letters in an alphabet it doesn't massively change the fact that you have to learn what any word in any language means before you can use it.
>>215948635eu estudei portugues na universidade mas eu sou pessimo. voce precisa levantar peso e lave o rosto. voce pode encontrar uma namorada!!!!!!!
>>215948786...I actually never considered that.
>>215948742Japan has already done so much on Journey to the West, which has probably the most exciting Chinese stuff going on.I don't really get why people jerk off Three Kingdoms stuff so much online, it's not that exciting, it's a very top down, imperial take on history.I'd really like to see a good take on Outlaws of the Marsh, I think it's criminally underutilised and actually has really cool subversive elements to the heroes which is incredibly rare in Chinese media, especially historical stuff.>They could absolutely find some niche to make their own as long as they stay away from blatant CCP propaganda.My problem isn't so much the blatant CCP propaganda, just the fact that media seems to be made with the intention of advancing the national cause.I remember years ago there used to be fucking tonnes of shows in China always about some plucky young Kung Fu master living in Shanghai at the time of the Japanese invasion and they would fight off thousands of puny weakling Japanese soldiers at once with both hands tied behind their back.They made fucking tonnes of these shows are they were all so BORING, they just wanted to rewrite history and pretend China hadn't been completely raped by the Japanese during the war.
>>215948800não posso. acabou-se.
>>215948867Also idk if you've studied Chinese but even if you come across a character you don't know you can often guess at the pronunciation because most characters follow rules where the element on the right or on top indicates what the pronunciation sounds like.You definitely can't figure out EXACTLY what a character sounds like from it, but of course in English there are also a lot of complicated words where you need to learn the pronunciation first.Alphabetical systems are probably better for guessing at pronunciation of a word you've never seen before, they're just more accurate, but it's all kind of redundant because guessing the pronunciation of a word you don't know the meaning of is useless, you're going to need to ask someone what it means in either language.
Is this the best modernised Spanish version of Don Quixote? If not, which is?
Do you have a polyglot gf?
>>215949662That's a man
holy shit, Language Simp is fucking hilarious
>>215949729stop selfposting josh
input?
It'd be nice to spend a year playing minecraft all day while constantly listening to input as the lazy depressed way to learn a language. I should've done that a few years ago
>>215950068ABLL
>>215914884I (not the first Aussie) just wanna learn Russian so I can read their primary sources and literature, I think Z is retarded and their war in Ukraine is literally shooting themselves on the foot kek
Why do Turks still believe in Altaic?
You can do it!
>>215950452cuz errbuddy wuz cuz
>>215948302Chinese anime will never be popular because they ban yuri
>>215950452Cause it's how it is. We're not brainwashed into something we are not.
It's fun to learn languages and I'm having fun. Are you having fun, too?
>>215949662Don't want a polyglot gf.I want a gf who only speaks my TL and finds it incredible that I speak other languages.
>I accidentally learned French with a newspaper frequency anki decknooo I learned useless formal words like souhaiter and afin within the top 500
English (India) and Español (US) are my favorite languages
>>215948742>I can imagine a Kingdom or Berserk-style manhua or donghua about the Three Kingdoms period that follows different characters.I've once seen a random chink recommend this. https://mangadex.org/title/f6ce20ca-73c3-4fdd-9367-e2901fca780eHaven't tried it out myself but I think it should be more or less like what you're describing.
>>215950452the tall man
When to use>theAnd when not to use it?
>>215955456WHAT THE FUCK IS "THE"
>>215955456Use it when you're talking about something specific
>>215955456use it always to be on the safe side
>>215955456Whenever it feels like the right thing to do.
>>215955991I see even Germany is full of jeets
>>215956677i live in a tiny village and work in a nearby town, i've been seeing the same people for all my life. i have no fucking clue what happens in germany
>>215956769Sounds nice, the tiny village I grew up in got jeeted
>>215956841it's shit and i hate every last one of these retarded faggots around me and hope they die very painfully
>>215956932that's not nice, i'm sure they wouldn't say the same about you
>>215957134I'm a retarded faggot and I kinda like him, you're probably right
>>215955456scriptorium
So full time immersion after 3k words right
>>215943747All their pop culture is mostly in Russian anyway I think>>215945184Ich spreche nur ein bisschen Deutsch. Ich verstehe nicht sehr gut. Ich bin schon müde. Ich mag Japanisch und Chinesisch lernen. Es ist vorbei. Das ist alles ich kann. Autocorrect helped a bit
>>215958011If you aren't full time by 1k it's over, pick a new language
>>215950452it still explains the similarities between the languages, it's just a sprachbund instead of a real family
>>215954223Do NOT redeem the card saarNo redeem la tarjeta guey ay
>>215950452browns can't tell the difference between a sprachbund that last existed 10k years ago and a language family
I learn English, Hebrew (technically my native language but I forgotten it to a certain degree) and Russian. If anyone wants to practice with me those languages, contact me on discord, my nick is kingofrandomalityI'm too lazy to write anything elseIf you're learning something else feel free to contact me there tooFeel free even to reply here
>>215912024how did lee miss this
>>215912024Guys help me I typed in>marge simpson feet soles pornBut I couldnt find anything, can you help me out please? Thank you
>>215947413Migraine means that it's working.
>>215960352Turn off safe search
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when your level is very low, is it better to make your own anki deck or use somebody else's 5k one?
>>215963670for an indo european language i would say making your own deck is better but if it's an asian language it's probably better to get a premade deck at least in the beginning before you make your own
>>215963819Turkic language
>>215960117he didnt though
>>215963670Tough choice, but I would say it is better to install Lute and learn words in context while reading real texts.
>>215912024im going to do the camino next year. how do i into spanish?
>>215958269*Ich möchte?
Was talking with a tutor, who is really good with English. But I could see her limitations. I talked too fast for her at one point. As much as I struggle to learn my target language, all things considered I really am grateful English is my native language. Its easy to take for granted. Its closest to a universal language. Imagine being a Spaniard trying to learn English or something, its not just a hobby. Its incredibly useful to know English. My second language is really just for fun at the end of the day.Ironically learning more about my target language and the culture, is kinda just making me more proud to be American. Still interested in their culture and language, but I have a lot to be thankful for I havent really acknowledged before.
>>215963670Pre-made for top 5k words, then sentencing mining/handmade afterwards. Don't waste your time making a deck for something that already exists. Your time is better used for input.
>>215950068Make sure to set Minecraft to your target language too.
Can one realistically learn both Japanese and Chinese as an English speaker? I'm getting pretty okay at my Jap, and the PRC propagandists that post in this thread have piqued my interest in Chinese. I already know the kanji. How difficult can it be?
>>215967319I tried the most popular premade 5k deck on ankiweb for spanish and it sucked. The 1.5k deck for japanese everyone uses is better but I still wouldn't recommend finishing it before starting input.
My Anki reviews are becoming too much.
>>215967424one of my friends has N1 (I think) very good Japanese and pretty good Chinese, he didn't practice it for a year so he's a bit rusty tho. so yes it is possible
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>>215970106What language are you learning and how do you tell me you have sex with my mother in it?
>>215970203Chinese我操你妈Spanishfollo con tu madreUyghuridk they don't teach me bad words
another day another roblox video in my TL
>>215967354yes set it to pirate english or swiss german
>>215963819I’d argue the reverse because making your own helps it stick easier
>>215963670>>215964375You generally want to use a premade frequency deck to bruteforce your way through the top ~1000 or so words before making your own. >>215967777I used the 2k/6k for Japanese and started mining my own deck on the side after around 1-2k words. Its a good deck and I finished the whole thing but some of the words are totally unnecessary since its based on frequency in newspapers from the 90s I think. It didn't need words like 日ソ(Japanese-Soviet).
German B2 input:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6PxdNKV4a8
>>215944002I think Mongolian might be too hard for me. I have spent most of the day listening to it, and they make sounds that I cannot even fathom being able to recreate.Perhaps the best way to learn it is to move there for a year or two...
>>215967424Yes man you CANThe real question is whether you SHOULD, which is something you have to answer yourself
>>215975711So according to his definition there's like a million Indian larpers that we should consider as part of the Volk? lol
There's only two frequency decks for my TL. The first one is ai generated and the other is dogshit... Do the Lute, I must...
>>215976266Be the change you want to see in the world, and make a deck!!!What language btw?
>>215976288I've been making my own alongside a textbook I'm learning from and I think it's helpful. Not sure if it's the same efficiency as grinding 3000 words immediately though. I can't tell you the language because the flag posts here and I'm shy.
>>215976374You can at least say the region or language family lol
>>215948209its worth it just for RotK
The most fascinating language to me is Persian. It sounds so cool, sounds very elegant and regal, the script is beautiful, but damn, I wouldn't even know where to start with itAnd as a white American dude, what am I gonna do, go to Iran or Afghanistan to fully immerse myself? lmao of course not
>>215976924Government has made a lot of resources for Farsi for this very reason.
>>215976924It can just be a fun hobby, it doesn't have to be something you need to move for. I think finding resources to learn from can be part of the fun
>>215976984i know there are those who think the only reason to learn a language is to live there and use it, but for a lot, me and you apparently, the journey is the destination, man
>>215976924>I wouldn't even know where to start with itPimsleur course (free on /t/ btw)
>>215977011>the only reason to learn a language is to live there and use itThe only reason to learn a language according to biology is to slay poon
we're going to archive tm
>>215950068I used to do that. I should do that again. Minecraft is so mindless you can listen to anything and retain focus because it doesn't take any concentration to strip mine or axe trees.
काम और काम मुझको एक जैसे लगते हैं।
कान और काम मुझको बराबर लगते हैं
Speaking of learning Persian, obvsiouly the hardest part will be learning the script which will take forever, and it's not really possible to learn the language without knowing the scriptBUT, Tajik, which is just the Tajik name for Persian, is written in Cyrillic. I actually know Cyrillic from Russian years ago. Lmao I might try picking up Persian through Tajik
>>215976771so you can listen to some guy yell at noobs about dota?
>>215935394Setting fluency as the goal sets you up for frustration. I'd set a more concrete goal. For me I remember some of my early goals being things like read my first real novel or watching an entire series in tl, etc.
How long did it take before you began unintentionally thinking in your TL?
don't develop a crush on your language partners lads. you can't even tell anyone because of how pathetic it is. god i should've killed myself so long ago
>>215981955oh, THAT'S why you're acting like that
>>215981981im a pathetic specimen yes.
>>215981955Where was she from
>>215982032irrelevant now, i feel like shit and im in an ocean of self loathing.
which books do you recommend in order to learn deutch?
>>215982045what about going to the gym or speaking with the lads?https://discord.com/invite/DV3S5Zcjy4
>>215982045you need to get a grip, seriouslythere's more to life and also 143.5 million people living in russia
>>215982108>what about going to the gymyeah i gotta renew my membership>>215982108>speaking with the lads?its too pathetic to even mention to anyone who knows me. ive gotta deal with it by myself.
>>215982112if you knew me, you would realise this normie tier advice wont suffice. i wasn't equalised properly and have lost certain frequencies, i dont mesh into the social fabric quite well
>>215982132i am well aware you are mentally ill and beyond saving, don't worry
>>215982144thank you
>>215982122go to that discord you may get some help, or talk about that here, you are an anon anyways and I'm probably going to sleep in a few minutes(I also had my heart broken for years)
>>215982270he's whined about it here for the past few days. there's been anons who tried motivating him but it's clear he wants to stay miserable. ignore him
>>215982270ive joined and ill probably lurky for a bit before i say anything>>215982306im allowed to vent and im continuing to learn the language, im just not AS motivated.
>>215982306I tried to erase my memories but the pain only became heavier, only time and wisdom washed away the pain
>>215982343no one cares. start namefagging so i can filter your pathetic posts
>>215982418just filter my flag
p. 9
>>215983247dont make me start wallowing in self pity again because ill do it, i love pissing off the american
>>215976924iirc there's lots of persian content on lingq, since mr kaufmann is obsessed with it
>>215979029
>>215978149What? Persian script is incredibly easyEven easier than Arabic
>>215981955She's probably getting railed right now while you're crying about your pathetic life on a basket weaving forum. All those thousands of hours providing free entertainment as one of the dozen simps in her DMs and you got discarded the moment you weren't useful. Next time focus on language learning because your TL will never betray you.>>215982094Dino lernt Deutsch
For once I agree with the serb
hello guys!! andy here =)
>>215975711zurück zu twitter
>>215982032Pretty sure it's the aus russian learner. Imagine being shocked that a Russian chick is a whore lol
>>215954223Español (alfabeticación internacional) is a close contender though
>>215987369What is it?
>>215976924dont do it worst mistake mistake of my life
>>215980350You think in thinkese thoughever
>>215988181Story?>>215978149I think the Tajik dialect uses different vowels, compared to the Iranian ones. Just something to be aware of.
>>215988331Tajik is also muttified with Russian loanwords
>>215983655He's been studying it since before the pandemic and he still doesn't speak it, though.
>>215988591As is Iranian with Arabic loanwords.
Lute or LWT
>>215989175LuteOne of my friends saw me using it in class so he asked about it and also downloaded it lolAlso someone make the new
NEW BREAD??? BREAD DOKO?????
