What language(s) are you learning?>Share language learning experiences!>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Make frens!**Comprehensible Input Wiki**comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_PageRead the wiki:4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language‐learning book archive:mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familytheswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentsrentry.org/inpoot>Refold Anki decksrentry.org/refoldPrevious: >>216462549
speaking basque without speaking spanish or french?
>>216531474Why is there no half-naked thot in the OP?
>no lust provoking imageThread doomed.
>>216531882It's a calm day. I'm happy, not horny.
I like Duolingo
>>216532007>>216531882I think cute or elegant women would work betterFrom the previous thread:>A glance at a woman's face, body, associating, not even sexually, women with any activity is a huge, probably the biggest, boost to motivation to do anything. That's why yellow fever guys are so successful in learning hard Asian languages. So it doesn't have to be soft porn
>>216532151Cute asians are always soft porn.
>>216532151The attractive woman method works best with Japanese and Korean, but i'm sure it can be applied to other languages.
>>216532007>>216532104
>>216532737That's what they get for making everything about their app shit.
>>216532585>>216532151Give me some boosts to motivation to learn Turkish.
>>216532352Korrekt, Brudi.
>evidentiality
>>216533134If you look up "Learn Turkish with" or something similar on YouTube you can probably find someone. I've found good female teachers for multiple languages already who make useful content. >Japanesehttps://www.youtube.com/@JapaneseAmmowithMisahttps://www.youtube.com/@Akane-JapaneseClasshttps://www.youtube.com/@SpeakJapaneseNaturally/videos>Frenchhttps://www.youtube.com/@francaisavecnelly>Germanhttps://www.youtube.com/@LearnGermanwithAnjaOnce you get through the beginner stage and learn all the basic grammar, you are no longer limited to content made for learners, and can find someone talking about anything.
>>216522582Memorizing 1k words in isolation isn't going to magically help you understand the language. You actually have to practice reading and listening, and in fact, beginning with simple ass basic bitch sentences and slowly working your way up. Grab an Assimil if you've never read a sentence before, otherwise grab a graded reader like Olly Richards short stories or search for "spanish comprehensible input" and pause after every sentence.>>216522613Weird humble brag disguised as blackpill demotivation bait. What's xer's endgame?>>216525083Sounds like a recipe for burnout. "Dino Lernt Deutsch" could get you to B2 reading in 120 chapters relatively painlessly.>>216530397External rewards don't work, especially ones that are very infrequent or never happen in reality. The only viable strategy is to actually get to a point where you like doing the work. Not exactly sure how you get there, but it's some combination of success (getting a non-trivial amount of visible progress) + the work being tolerable for you. Then something unlocks in you and you realize you could learn languages forever.
>>216533511I love you in japanese is "koi shitter"
For French I like her the most:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDqAmORO81BORLO7FHcVJxhth4YXlPQ51&si=owK9_iERPQPb7GVGAnd there's also Luce from channel Comprehensive Input French. He's a dude, but I like him. >>216534378The ability to grind is important, but there's a reason almost every ad features a beautiful woman. It's just a nice thing to listen female voices, looking at them, dealing with them. What we associate with things, cultures, nations, and products influences motivation. A few videos have destroyed the image of India, and sometimes all you need to do is point the way to a French mulatto woman and receive a broad smile from her to make your day a good day and learning the language enjoyable again.
>>216533511>femaleBut why? Given that this thread is probably 98% male at least, i'd rather try to look for older men. No need to get bad habits on pronunciation or honorifics early on.
I hope Dreaming French launches soon. I've run out of good comprehensible input content. Most channels are way too basic and easy for me.
How can I pronounce this bird Is it the same as 'answer'?
>>216536794Yes, in some accents.In British English answer is /ɑːnsə/ and anser is /ansə/in american enɡlish i think its all /ænsə/
>>216537103Thanks, mate
did your target language have such talent as chencho and maldy i dont think so
Should I continue learning French or switch over to Japanese?I want to visit Japan but I have no plans to visit France any time soon.Also, what's some good INPOOOTING material for french?
>>216522220Danke für die Rückmeldung. Beim zweiten Lesen wirkt mein Schreibstil echt steil und alles andere als locker. Meine unnatürliche Ausdrucksweise liegt meiner Meinung nach daran, dass ich eigentlich abgesehen von diesem Faden und ab und zu auf Twitter nie an einem auf Deutsch geführten Gespräch teilgenommen haben, bzw an einem solchen Gesprächen teilnehmen konnte. Ich hab ein paar male versucht eine Gruppe in meiner Gegend zu finden aber leider vergeblich. Ehrlich gesagt bin ich auf gar keinen Fall reisefreudig aber ich würde trotzdem gerne nach Deutschland für ein paar Wochen oder vielleicht sogar einen Monat reisen, um meine Sprachfähigkeiten zu verbessern.
>>216537203Why not watch anime in French? There's six seasons of Pokémon available on YouTube with audio tracks and captions in 16 languages including French.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRcHmntfmJ8CnSmj4C284-a1euH518aQa
>>216536577that skinny brunette they have...
>>216521435>your german looks insanely goodThanks m8 but idk the actual german thinks I sound like an indian using google translate, but since you asked here you go:I initially started years ago with Duolingo and after that I started playing simple games like the pokemon games, mining them for words to add to my deck; after that I started very slowly reading a german translation of Margret Attwood's sci-fi novel Oryx and Crake that I got my hands on. That single book took me a year as I went line by line, page by page adding every word I didn't know to my deck. Around this time I also read Reading German Quickly by April Wilson and frequently reading and rereading the Review of German Grammar from Dartmouth U to clarify grammar I didn't understand.Before German I had taken Latin in school and my whole approach was tinged by the way I was taught Latin, which is to say translation and deciphering was how I approached learning a language. However, at some point around covid I was randomly recommended a MattvsJapan video by the youtube algorithm in which he talked about how you shouldn't be translating in your head advocated for inputting massive amounts of audio content, which up until that point I had only sparingly touched. That was a big turning point for me and after watching his video I've tried to listen to at least an hour of german a day in the form of news podcasts, youtube vids, etc. I started with Deutsche Welle's slow news podcast and just slowly weened off of that and started listening to native content. I also used to listen to the same podcast like 5 times which I think can be useful as you start with listening.In hindsight, I would have flipped my approach and started with heavy listening with some light reading, then heavier reading later, but I was flying blind and just winging it back then.Honestly the absolute biggest thing is you can't quit. I wanted to quit so many times or switch languages. I am so glad didn't and I stuck with it.
If I become fluent in my TL the random company with a couple hundred employees that I became obsessed with will be impressed right?
>>216539294Yes
>>216539294They will offer you the CEO position right away.
>>216539294I love them smI do it for they
>>216539294
>>216539353>>216539422>>216539503>>216539570Thanks bros my hope is renewed and I WILL make it I can always count on you
>>216539294I don't know about Canada, but certain languages, if you have a college degree, can get you a good job in Poland. Or they could, I don't know about now in the AI era.
>>216539894If only I was learning Polish, your neighbour is the one who caught my interestI'll teach you about my country, we drink A&W rootbeer and eat Hawkin's cheezies
>>216536577There's thousands of cute French girls that make stupid vlogs about the dumb bullshit they do every day. Just watch those
>>216536577If you've run out comprehensible input for french it's time for you to start listening to native level content
>>216540999Not interested in those. It's always the most boring/repetitive stuff and I can't really keep my attention focused.>>216542036I do, but I like to include content that is also specifically designed to be CI because I find some native content still difficult to understand. I really like the way Dreaming French produce their videos specifically.
>>216540246>>216540246Czech? I think it's the same thing there too, maybe on smaller scale. Many Western corporations operate in Central and Eastern Europe due to costs. Accounting, customer service, HR, BPO in general>>216536577I miss that ñ im Dreaming Spanish. Dreaming French could have ç
>>216539294>the random company with a couple hundred employees that I became obsessed with willName ans shame.
>>216543584>CzechYes stop stalking me>>216543626I shan't
Will Swiss German eventually become its own language
>>216544203It already is. The distinction between dialect and unique language is largely arbitrary
>>216544203>>216544857In one sense it's growing closer to standard German. Where I live, the traditional grammar of future tense and relative clauses is quickly being replaced by the grammar of standard German. Unique words are slowly disappearing too. The transition between standard and Swiss Garman is becoming more abrupt though, thanks to the Germans across the border completely losing their dialects.
كىتابلىرى كەلدى
Is Occitan practically dead? Do they pronounce R like the Spanish and Italians, or like other French and Germans? Is this language really closer to Catalan than to French?
>>216532104Lilly is a sticc. A confirmed bean-pole. No ass. No tits. Please respect her perfection and do NOT post off-character images of her. She does not have disgusting big tits.
>>216537626Why are all the Dreaming [language] girls super hot? I hope they make more languages so I can find more waifus. Dabblerchads, we will win this.
>>216539503Amazing rack, loves showing it off. God bless.
>>216543584What letter should represent Polish? I vote Ł.
Representing languages with a single letter from their alphabet.Spanish: ÑFrench: ÇPortuguese: ÃGerman: ßNorwegian: ØPolish: ŁCzech: ŘHungarian: ŐTurkish: ĞPost your suggestions
>>216546396Ą or Ę because nasal vowels distinguish Polish from other Slavic languages. Eventually either SZ or Ś, because it is considered a “rustling” language.>>216546319Next will be German, then Japanese or Italian. It does not seem unreasonable to be suggested by Duolingo reports, as they show the general interest in particular languages.
>>216546553ê for portuguese
>>216546553English: EItalian: ÈCzech should be šSwedish: ÄFinnish: Y
>>216546601Might add Mandarin too
>>216546601Ż is a unique letter with a rustling sound.
>>216546553Mandarin: either Ǚ or pic relEstonian: ÕWelsh: ŴDutch: IJMacedonian: ЌCatalan: ·
>>216546723forgot
>>216546553Ř is such a cool letter I love CzechBefore anyone asks no I can't say it
>>216546553Ǫ Old Norse
>tfw barely moved from giga Goebels to heavy Goebels accentAfter working with Fallow the last two days, i checked out Sorted again, but damn, these guys have fallen completely off the cliff. Anyone got some recommendations for other british chefs to watch on youtube? Preferably with lots of face shots.>>216537653No, you definitely sound like an american/brit using google translate. Indian scammers produce a different, far worse mess.>>216537206Schon mal /deutsch/ ausprobiert? Klar, da wird viel Unsinn verzapft und Akzente sind Standard, aber brutaler kannst du dich gar nicht auf nen Kneipenabend vorbereiten.
>>216536794>>216537103I've never heard of this bird but I would pronounce "anser" and "answer" exactly the same.
>>216546553Albanian: ËAzerbaijani: ƏBelarusian: ЎBreton: C'HCebuano: -Chechen: ӀHokkien: nKazakh: ҚKorean: ᄋLatin: VLatvian: ŅMalay: 2Maori: WHSquamish: 7Vietnamese: Ở
WE LEARNIN LANGUAGES 니가
What is everyone's favorite words they've learned today in their TL? Mine are 艶めかしい、悶々、耳年増
>>216549658i learned that turris is a tower or castle
>>216549658here's mine: 大人買い、泥酔
>>216531474I poasted this last thread but I'm taking Gothic or Hittite next semester and if anyone's interested in the books to just give a cursory look-over, I can give you the names
Whats a good beginner show? Slightly easier than Avatar the Last Airbender which i see reccd a lot
>>216549514
>>216532151I've been studying korean for 10 months and can already watch gaming videos and dramas without subtitles and understand most of it. I naturally have terrible word recall, hazy word discrimination, etc. (even in english, I often forget common words and mis-hear people I'm not very verbal in general). I shudder to think what someone with an actual natural talent for language learning could accomplish with my level of yellow fever
>>216551114how many anki words have you completed?
>>216551143I went through 4400 in the first 2-3 months then I dropped vocab cardsIt's a waste of time learning words in isolation for languages like korean since the word will sound totally different after being conjugated and you'll never recognize it
>>216531474man I love girls in hoods
>>216551208wearing hoods I mean
>>216546553の japanese
>>216546553Russian: Ы
deciding between Russian or Japanese for my TL Russian might be beneficial for my career in cybersecurity and cryptography but Japanese seems cooler with more resources
>>216551189was ur retention super low? 50 a day is a lot
>>216550977>flag For English?>>216551114>dramasImho completely overrated, if you're not into it. Hop onto soop, former afreeca, join a slow chat and drop something along 한국어 배우러 왔어. They'll teach you everything from street to dirty talk.
I'm glad I dropped JapaneseI think I'll adopt Europeanism which I've been toying with for a while
>>216546553Serbian: ЂUkrainian: ЄBulgarian: Ъ
>>216553847I'm thinking of picking up Japanese again.
>>216549658自若、着陆、豢养جازا، ئىقتىساد
>>216532007>>216532737I used duolingo back in 2014~ and dropped it after 2 years but now i returned to it and holy shit it's so soulless and bastardized now.>no forums>no grammar description>no discussion>energy so you cant do more lessons than 3/day>leaned too much into the game element>AIit's literally unusable
Translation challenge. The Alan Parsons Project edition. Easy: The sun in your eyes makes some of the lies worth believing.Someday in the midst of time, when they ask me if I knew you, I'd smile and say you were a friend of mine.You gave the best you had to give. You only have one life to live. You fought so hard; you were a slave. After all you gave, there was nothing left to save.Mid:I don't know why I'm scared of the lightning trying to reach me.Even clouds seem bright and breezy cause the livin' is free and easy!I feel the blow but I don't speak and I have to close my eyes, pretending I'm asleepWhen we were living in a dream world, clouds got in the way. We gave it up in a moment of madness and threw it all away.Hard:The clock struck midnight, and through my sleeping, I heard a tapping at my door. I looked but nothing lay in the darkness and so I turned inside once more. To my amazement, there stood a raven whose shadow hung above my door. And still the raven remains in my room, no matter how much I implore. No words can soothe him, no prayer remove him, and I must hear for evermore.You who are rich and whose troubles are few may come around to see my point of view. What price the crown of a King on his throne when you're chained in the dark all alone?Killer:For my own part, I have never had a thought which I could not set down in words with even more distinctness than that with which I conceived it. There is, however, a class of fancies of exquisite delicacy, which are not thoughts and to which as yet I have found it absolutely impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul — alas, how rarely — only at epochs of most intense tranquility when the bodily and mental health are in perfection, and at those mere points of timewhere the confines of the waking world blend with the world of dreams. And so I captured this fancy where all that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.
I will be a random black guy who SHOCKS random chinese aunties with my HSK6 mandarin
>>216555434可是她们真会歧视黑鬼
>>216555645Im already used to racism and learning Chinese would help my career since we have a lot of branches with overseas chinese
>>216555691那你加油吧 我的黑鬼哥们
>>216553848for Ukrainian it's that clown i with two dots
is the ccp oppressing the minority languages in china?
>>216557821Depends on which languages, but overall it's a very complex situation, because the CCP is definitely against them, but there are also big economic incentives for minority language speakers to speak Mandarin and only teach mandarin to their children
>>216558081whos winning?
>>216559063I would guess the 1.4 billion are winning
>>216555375tfw easy is too hard
>>216560148And mid is somehow easier than easy
>>216555375Le sol in tues oculos face alicuns des mentiras digne de esser credite.Un jorno in le medio del tempore, quando illes me demandan si jo te cognoscevo, jo riderei e dicerei que eras un amico/una amica de mi.Tu davas le melior que tu habevas a dar. Tu solmente has una vita a viver. Tu luctavas tanto dur. Tu eras un sclavio. Post toto que tu davas, il non remaneva nihil a salvar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD9i39GENWU
>>216553651For Spanish
pagina nona
>>216531474Might potentially get a girlfriend guess it's time to give up on Japanese
>>216565362don't be a dumbass
>>216565362Women are temporary, but TL is yours forever.
>>216550977Try Peppa Pig and Bluey.
>>216546899>Indian scammers produce a different, far worse mess.ich werde das als Kompliment auffassen. >>216546899Ein paarmal schon aber normalerweise werde ich da schlichtweg ignoriert. Würde nie über sowas meckern und es ist klar deren gutes Recht mich zu ignorieren aber das nützt mir gar nicht beim Verbessern meiner Sprachfähigkeiten. Ich hab vielmehr Erfolg auf Twitter. Liegt wohl dran dass hier meine Nationalflagge prominent angezeigt wird was auf Twitter nicht der Fall ist. Ich schätze /de/ immerhin. Ich habe beim Durchlesen da eine Menge lustige Wörter gelernt.
>>216537409very underrated resource. The first tv series I watched and actually understood was the first season of Pokemon in German on Netflix. The fact that now you can watch several season for free in like 10 languages is crazy. Literally hundreds of hours of input material.
>>216566340Unless you don't use it for a month, then it's gone forever.
>>216567715I didn't use french for almost 10 years but it's still there taking up room in my head
>>216567715>>216568134i don't use english except for this thread and i can't seem to forget it. must be a skill issue of sorts
>>216566532Bluey was harder for me than Avatar lol. The wacky voices made it difficult for me to understand what they were saying. >>216563380Try Frieren. I remember watching a few episodes in Spanish and everyone was talking slow and clear
>>216568679The wacky voices are good for learning from if you can understand them you can underestimate different accents easier
Today I met Chinese speaking Mormons in the street and we had a chat in Chinese They were nice but kept trying to invite me to church
>>216570249Should've taken them up on it for the free input
>>216553847euroweebism is basically where I'm at. Japan has the pop culture but Europe has the high culture and history
>>216570476This. All free input is good.
>>216570249>>216570476it sounds like a set up for getting "free input" in the form of a knife puncturing your esophagus. chinese speaking mormons in england man, you just know they will grill your remains on a shopping cart from tesco
>>216570824The world's a scary place for you
>>216537409This is definitely a good resource, but I also think it's just not that entertaining, which makes it hard to stay motivated. And it also makes me want to play the pokemon games instead, which is more enjoyable for me and also a good beginner resource, since you basically just go around and talk to NPCs who all say really simple things. It just has no voices obviously, so that's a downside.
>>216571016issa cold world nigha
I love the celtic languages. It makes me deeply sad that most of them are borderline extinct or only spoken in bastardized forms
>>216572313ummm they got enriched by superior anglo culture, you should be happy for them
>>216552840>Russian might be beneficial for my career in cybersecurity and cryptographyWhat? How?>>216557821>is the ccp oppressing the minority languages in china?Absolutely. Both Chinese and non-Chinese languages. >>216550776>I'm taking Gothic or Hittite next semesterWhat a wide range. What's your major exactly?>HittiteI'm fan of the Middle East, gib pls.
>>216570476theres already like 50,000 Chinese people in the city I'm in plus my Chinese was actually better than theirs lolI could have helped them
>>216572420this is unironically how progressives in the US think now. traditional & non-western cultures have traditional values on things like sex/gender roles and are therefor bad. It's funny watching them 180 into actual racist western-supremacists in my lifetime
>>216565362>girlfriend isn't japaneseyou've made a terrible mistake
>>216572313Have you studied Old Irish
>>216572901Linguistics, specifically Historical Indo-Europeanbut I'm specifically focusing my PhD on Historical Germanic Linguistics
please tell me how to roll R’sI’ve watched literally every different YouTube video on this and still can’t do it. Maybe I just have to kill myself
>>216574659Try to mimic Russian accent in American movies
>>216574659hold your tongue behind the ridge of your palaterelax the muscles so it can move freelybreathe out like you normally would to talk to make the air vibrate your tongue and produce a sound
>>216574455Nah, I haven't. I'm solely focused on Spanish right now. Celtic dabbling will have to come later
>>216574659can you make machine gun noises with your mouth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Git-tuFfU
>>216574659>I’ve watched literally every different YouTube video on this and still can’t do it. Maybe I just have to kill myselfit's ok to be white
i'm so fucking exhausted from correcting basic English mistakes from retarded Brazilians
Chose a language for me /lang/
>>216580369Nahuatl
>>216580369Quebecois French
>>216580369Czech
>>216580369Serbian
>>216580369maybe a conlang like Hebrew
>>216580369Xhosa
Can I get some input thats similar to Pokemon level for spanish but not Pokemon? Never was into pokemon so its not real interesting to me....
>second paid tutor laughed at me>people I talk to just act confused when I speak and cannot understand me at allI give up learning languages. this just makes me sad.
>>216581737Digimon
>>216581792cmon man
>>216580472No that’s already my native language aha, nice try though
>>216581764Sorry to hear that anon, but don't give up on learning languages
>>216581737Miraculous Ladybug, Sonic Prime, Minecraft YouTubers (Soy Cubo is pretty simple and repetitive). Basically, just watch anything that an 8 year old would like
>>216581737Spongebob maybe? I don't know if these are episodes or long clip compilations thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/@bobesponjaespanol/videos
>>216581173Is anyone actually learning it on here ?
watched some lupinit actually wasn't that bad even tho the main character is a ni...ce guy
>>216582080Digimon is based
"ya" in spanish is such a bullshit word. It means so many random things
bompe
Any good apps to find native speakers for Russian?
i tried to learn tajik because im too lazy learning arabo persian script will it be effective
>>216537409Bitch pleaseHere you go, whatever anime you want, both VF(French Version) and VOSTFR (original version, French subtitles)https://v6.voiranime.comCurrently watching Black Cat, Feeling goed so far, man
>>216586010The script is the best part wtf.>>216584949I guess the same as any other major language.
Okay lads I gotta lock in. All women leave the thread now.
Page 9learn Finnish
Learn Estonian
>>216587698Hungarian has more speakers (and cases).
>>216587698Sir yes sir
>>216580369French
good morning Saturday morning
>>216591245it's 14 o'clock here
>>216591310Have you had lunch yet? What do polanders eat for lunch?
>>216591475For dinner I ate noodles with cottage cheese
How do I revive my B2 Spanish after not speaking it at all for three years?
>>216592450By speaking it
basque without spanish or french?
>>216583034Ya te digo que ya he tenido suficiente, ya no puedes andar en casa todo el día, esto se acaba ya.I'll tell you (non semantic ya) i've already (ya) had enough, you can no longer (ya no ) stay at home all day, this ends now (ya).Ya, i see what you mean, never thought about it
>>216593172I don't have an answer for you but I appreciate the repeated asking
bumpus
good morning
>>216592450By reminding yourself why you started in the first place.>>216586218>Blocked by cloudflareThanks, but the unique thing about the Pokémon resource is that it's dubbed + subbed, it makes it so much more accessible to beginners and those struggling with listening. It's actually quite rare to find that in any language. Also, since it's on YT, you can use Language Reactor on it for easy and quick lookups.
>>216593920Interestingly enough ya in Spanish is used quite similarly as jo in Finnish.(Jo) sanoin että (jo) riittää, (jo) loppuu kotona oleskelu päivät pitkät, tämä saa (jo) luvan loppua.
>>216586010probably not if there's even fewer resources for Tajikmight as well learn the Latin script for Persian if there's any resources there
>>216592383Need a big bowl
>>216597609Started because it was that or French in school and I hated French
bump
they won
>>216603342Won what?
>>216597609>Blocked by cloudflareWhy did they have to do this?Internet side getting blocked by cloudfare has let me in despair
Does anyone know of any sites similar to Conjuguemos? Basically, sites that feature vocab or conjugation drills with a focus on TYPING. Clozemaster is close, but is more about filling in vocab in a sentence context.
>>216605478Linguno maybe
혜안 is like perfect intermediate CI for any korean learners. It's not a CI channel it's just a regular gaming channel but he almost always talks about whats currently happening on screen in a very understandable way that's unintentionally better than most CI channelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocKaE4p5Kpwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da2mn4CQuQM&t=197s
You are not smart enough to learn japanese
>190 posts in 48 hoursno cute girl in the op, dead thread
>>216607179at plane adest?
>>216604901Works for me in freedomland mon ami.
>>216605758This guy does similar gaming content in Japanese. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svOCpqvo-24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER8V9XfEDk0
>>216607179You need more?
remember to put off speaking for at least 10 years so as to not fuck up your accent IRREPARABLY!
i have been AKATTing so hard that I keep accidentally using korean grammar when speaking englishme and my buddy were discussing our online business today and I had a lot of ideas for new features and I said "many ideas are occurring" ("많은 생각이 떠오르고 있어") instead of 'I have a lot of ideas'production in english feels slow now because my brain can't decide whether to use korean or english syntaxsoon my skin will turn yellow
>>216610063I keep getting called esl online
>>216610428sorry to hear that saar
beumpe
I get more dopamine from being able to understand absolute slop in my TL than I do from watching genuinely good stuff in english
>126 due reviews
>>216613005I have 8017 total due reviews for my language
Finnish or Hungarian ?
>>216613005
>>216612952sounds nice. I know 1k words and cant even understand pokemon.
Is there a language whose country's government is actually comprised of generally nice, good people?
https://github.com/iptv-org/iptv/tree/masterlist of iptv playlists that have it sorted by languages for input.
Is duolingo good? I keep seeing it mentioned. I used it for a little while many years ago so I don't remember what it was like.Also, has anyone tried any of the AI apps where apparently you can talk to the app with your voice? Seems pretty cool.Anki is another app I see mentioned. I tried it but I don't like it. But maybe it's just the android app that sucks. Too convoluted, not intuitive at all.
Eight old French books, I like the first two the most.1)https://archive.org/details/tudeprogressiv00steruofthttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhflcVugPunItKw7Bpdhpi_O2)https://archive.org/details/jensen-arthur-le-francais-par-la-methode-naturehttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdIS7NMcdUdxibD1UyzNFTPhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdKhSUfOYFcIxn2w-0AktGv3)https://archive.org/details/premierlivredele00unse4)https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000006968175https://books.google.com/books?id=oIYCAAAAQAAJKind of sucks at first, overusing hyphens, writing sentence fragments as if they were complete sentences, but from page 71 you have a decent interlinear text.5)https://archive.org/details/p2lepremierlivre89west00torouoft6)https://archive.org/details/wholefrenchlangu00robe7)https://www.scribd.com/document/798117982/French-Through-Pictures-and-a-First-Workbook-of-Frenchhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdOCp1Sd-0uSf_fKFsxpp-Y8)If you're going to use this book, First French Reader by Worman, be sure to use one of these two links. There are many links just on archive.org, I looked at most, and the others have typos, these two links were a different printing. On the first page there is a question mark where there shouldn't be one, and it's missing one where there should be one, in the other links.https://archive.org/details/coursdefrancaisd00wormhttps://archive.org/details/coursdefranaisd00wormgooghttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhcYnqN5UL0bmmd6uakZWhEz
>>216615706mate translate and language reactor are all you need and both are free
>>216617027I'm looking at language reactor now, bilingual subtitles for youtube. Looks pretty cool. Can it do any youtube video?
>>216617027Also, language reactor isn't perfect, it rendered "Nord-Darfur" as "Nordfur".https://www.languagereactor.com/c/de/yt/yc_UCMIgOXM2JEQ2Pv2d0_PVfcg/yt_CB4FsbUpE5Y
>>216614644Dzongkha. Good luck finding another one.
Machine translation often struggles for Swedish when it gets a bit more obscure slangy, but still not terribly obscure. Probably put together by a bunch of stuck-up nerds. Should add flashback.org to the traning data or something.
>>216617027>>216617322Also it's very annoying how the video starts playing every time you click anything, makes it almost unusable. I prefer my 19th century schoolbooks.
>>216617421Neither Google nor DeepL knows that a "dase" is a cock. DeepL sometimes guesses it with helpful context. That's not even obscure. Just extremely low-brow.
Studien und plaudereien by Sigmon M. Sternhttps://archive.org/details/studienundplaude00sterrichHow to read the old German font (Fraktur):https://i.4cdn.org/lit/1762609285760439.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/lit/1762609374986515.jpg
Saw some people speaking my TL today. They would have to work me with pliers before I EVER outputted a fucking word.
How do I make it show both languages on the right?
>>216614203Did you learn those 1k words from listening or ankigooning?
>>216615706>Anki>too convolutedHuh? You read a word/sentence then press a button
>>216618775I was trying to make my cards show English first instead of German. Nope, too much to ask. I'm not reading up on the 1000 different settings just to do that.
Danish has too many fucking vowels.
>>216618846Czech doesn't have enoughMaybe we should combine them
>>216618822I'm pretty sure the basic cards literally have just a field for front/backside.What were you trying to do?
>>216619387to switch question/answer, the side that it showed as question I wanted as answer
>>216532104She doesn't look like this though. She's ugly as fuck in the app.
>Think of a phrase I wish I could say in my TL>write the english/danish version of that phrase into deepl>turn this into an anki cardAre there any issues with this approach? The ai shouldn't have any issue with simple phrases.
>>216621450extra context/information that the TL needs but the English doesn't providefor example singular and plural you
>>216621450It's not the worst thing you can do as a beginnerEven with simple sentences it will word things awkwardly sometimes, but you'll self correct as you get better (by reading/listening to native speakers)
>>216621498That makes sense, but for that specific case I'd probably type the phrase in Danish instead as we can 'you' in plural.I can imagine it might get messy the more advanced I get, but I there's surely a lot of damage control I can do like looking up each word in dictionary and asking here.>>216621621Thanks, I'll go ahead with the idea. The thing is I've been learning Japanese for years and I'm quite confident in my reading/listening ability, yet I can't have a conversation at all and it completely kills any feeling of confidence or pride I might otherwise have in having at least achieved something with my gay life. I don't want the next language to go like this and I wanna be able to output as early as possible.
>no arabic mentionedanother empty general for me
>>216621450No you need to goon Dreaming Spanish for 1000 hours.
>>216619997Do you have the anki desktop app too or just ankidroid?
>>216622587just ankidroid (I have a chromebook)
>>216622711Did you have a ready made deck or were you adding to a self made one?
1) click the top left menu burger2) click card browser3) click a random card4) click "cards:" right under "tags:"5) You are now seeing the front template, and can switch to edit the back templateWhat you do next depends on how the (premade?) deck was made. post what's in the front and back tabs
Why did western Europe lose the tap-drill r? It was standard in all of Uk, Germany and France 200 years ago
>>216622215Can't I do that while also doing this?I gooned to Japanese immersion for years without doing anything like this.
>>216625199Nei, hvis du vil lære japansk, må du lytte til DreamingSpanish i minst tusen timer, det finnes ingen annen måte.
Has learning a random language out of boredom ever work out for anyone? I like data-hoarding and I downloaded a lot of shit for different languages just to check them out, but I never had any intention of learning them. I'm bored out of my mind lately, though.
>>216616832>>216617986it's kind of weird how CI/intuitive methods are usually framed as a really recent thing.
>>216625490I'm learning for fun I don't know if that's the same as learning out of boredom
French pronunciation is starting to put me off. I'm NGMI>>216623931This also coincides with the rapid growth of the cities, industrialization, the spread of sugar and processed foods, so perhaps there is also the issue of being unable to pronounce a normal R due to missing teeth or some kind of deformity in the mouth. Some people cannot pronounce a normal R because their tongue or frenulum linguae are too short. Let's imagine that we have a population with missing teeth, people maimed by accidents in factories, by firearms in wars, etc. Perhaps different Rs were acceptable (Dutch use 3 different ones as far as I know), but it was in cities that the non-trilled R became widespread due to its ease of pronunciation, and then its popularity spread to the rest of the country because of the prestige of the biggest cities or simply linguistic fascism (France was obsessed with making the Parisian dialect the standard throughout the country). I just came up with this hypothesis a moment ago
>>216625324Verstanden
>>216626134What made you pick your language?
>>216625490I think that's impossible. That is, if there is no pressure to learn the language, motivation evaporates. Pressure can come from an obsession with language, but then it's easy to fall down the rabbit hole of theory and become a linguist and they don't always communicate smoothly in the language. Other types of pressure can be education, career, money, women, or other hobbies, and then a foreign language is a tool that needs to be learned. Another type of pressure is, for example, emigration, or generally being thrown into a foreign language environment, even online. But I'm in the doomer mood rn
>>216617986this is what they took from us
>>216618685ankigooning
Гдe poccиянe
>>216626727Shame
>>216627266I was hoping it would let me skip the little kid CI so I could watch something halfway entertaining.
>>216626106Yeah, when you start looking into it it's been going on since at least the 19th century. I have mixed opinions about CI/induction/natural method, kind of overrated to be honest, but some authors do it better than others, I also think it's best combined with explicit instruction in a language you know well. For now I'm running with graded/progressive reader with exercises + grammar book with exercises, as my go-to method, so for German thishttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137935102plus some grammar in English. I treat all these induction books as readers, which is what they are, not the sole material to be used, especially not for Classical Latin or Classical Greek. I used Familia Romana but got bored, but I might try using Neumann's Companion or switch to something like Jenney's Latin. Latin For Today by Gray and Jenkins might have been good if only a good printing of it were available online.https://archive.org/details/familia-romanahttps://leftychan.net/edu/src/1608528074592-0.pdfhttps://archive.org/details/jenneys-first-year-latin-1984for Spanish I'm reading Worman's New Spanish and the more modern Spanish Graded Readerhttps://archive.org/details/firstspanishbook00wormrichhttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137980013
>>216626338I liked a game that's all really>>216627329I've done input for adults + anki for 5 months and I can understand input for adults enough to understand it, missing a lot but still learning something everyday so that's good enough for meI don't think beginner input actually learns you any faster if you aren't interested in it
>>216627383I'm also reading these.https://archive.org/details/interlinear-german-reading-book-hahn-thimm-1901-marlboroughhttps://books.google.com/books?id=bOhEAAAAIAAJ
>>216605631This is closer but still doesn't have the option for vocab only typing drills, or conjugation drills that simply state the person, tense, mood of a verb instead of putting it in a sentence. Basically looking for simple flashcards that you fill in by typing in your TL, like Conjuguemos... the issue with that site is the wordlists are never updated, has occasional typos in said wordlists, and is generally very unevenly loaded in terms of content for each language.
>>216627452>enough to understand itSee this is so vague when people say this. Straightforward adult shows like a sitcom or something anyone could follow or "understand" it knowing zero words. Not convinced this means you're identifying words correctly in context or really gaining anything
>>216627515For Greek I'm using this, but will probably try something else.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4FyHj2CA30dFvtLPcFheTRSxNF9sEJqWhttps://libgen.li/edition.php?id=146575969
>>216626626i hate hitler for banning Fraktur
>>216627383>New Spanish*First Spanish BookHe also has a later edition called New First Spanish Book, they're almost identical.https://archive.org/details/newfirstspanishb00jamerich
>>216627622It's hard to quantify when you learn this way, not like I can tell you my cefr levelThese days I mostly watch twitch streams, sometimes gaming or something else with visual cues but most of the time it's just someone talking to the camera. If they're taking about common topics I can loosely follow along, and I'll know/recognize maybe 50-90% of the wordsA lot of the time I recognize words in a sentence but don'f fully understand it. It's slowly getting easier to put things together
>>216605758>>216607903any channels like this in French or German?
>>216625490It's been my main hobby for the last 3 years and I have no particular reason to learn any of my TLs, I just like the feeling of "progress go brrrrr" and it gives me an excuse to read and consume slop every day.
>>216625490>>216629661I think about learning languages the same as those movies or books where the main character gets locked in a room for decades and eventually comes out totally insane but also really smart and has discovered some hidden truth of the universe. The world is so shit right now that I have nothing else to do. So if I have to sit in my room and slowly become crazy I might as well have something to show for it.
>>216614203Don't lie. You don't know 1k words. You memorized 1k flashcards and know nothing. How do you expect to understand anything without training your ears to understand actual spoken language?Suck it up and start inputting. I want you to succeed.
>>216627452>>216629661>>216629915Do you ever speak the languages in question or just passively interact with them?
>>216631606Got no one to talk toI told myself I'd talk to people online when I think I understand enough to crosstalk easily, but that lets me put it off indefinitely
>>216605758Thanks, i'll check in later.>>216627788If it wasn't for Hitler(akshually mostly Himmler) banning it, it wouldn't have seen any revival at all after the war. For what it's worth it's still popular for tombstone inscriptions.>>216629321I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any. Gaming videos are still very much targeted towards kids, therefore most adults switch to English content, further pushing the loop. I'd rather stick with German public broadcasts. For a beginner i heavily recommend Tagesschau in einfacher Sprache, which is just that.
>>216631606I've had a few very short text conversations on Discord or other sites but that's it. I plan on eventually visiting Japan but besides that I'm fine with just immersion and messages for now. The main reason I started learning Japanese was for media.
thank you to the anon who suggested Mate Translate, this seems much better than Yomitan with Wiktionaries
>>216632953Speak Breton without learning FrenchSpeak Welsh without learning English
>>216632953Learn the language you want to learn>>216633013Basé
>>216626254it's real
>>216633013i can speak french i just don't want to
>>216632953Yes, go for it. You have our full permission and approval.
>>216633013Isn't that just being drunk?
>>216633013Speak Scots without learning English Whenever someone speaks to you in English, refuse to engage Only respond in Scots
>>216632953Don't worry. That Serb doesn't speak another language besides his native language and English. He has been unsuccessful in his language acquisition pursuits thus far. He's our resident LARPer.
My archnemesis is back. What triggered xim this time?
>>216634709Post the real pic next time.
Serbian flags > Canadian fags
Her eyes are staring into my soul:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AsBqXHldyM
>>216634864What'd I do
oh to be able to speak Scottish English
>>216634864Name one (1) contribution xe has brought to /lang/ that isn't a Chat-GPT/reddit tier word wall of shit everyone already knows. And don't post the German resources chart.
>>216635243why not
>>216635243I've successfully dissuaded people from learning P*lish and wasting their time. This alone should grant me a place in the /lang/ hall of fame.
>>216635243It's very good chart though
>>216635506I'm learning polish accidentally from being here
>>216635533We've already established that there are no real P*lish learners on /lang/, it's just the leaf ximself on VPN trying to create the illusion of sudden interest and popularity.
>>216635506What's the matter with polish? They got cabanossi and dumplings.
>>216635847It insists upon itself.
>>216634345He learned 3 languages
I love France and Europe (France is the pillar on which Europe stands), I want to have less anglocentric perspective, but don't want to learn French (pronunciation is killing me). All that beginner stuff is boring af and I can't pronounce shit and barely understand basic sentences. As I said here >>216626566 it's impossible to learn a language as an adultHow not to be a lazy slob?
>>216635847kielbasa and pierogies. Polish food is pretty underrated.
>>216636604I made pierogi yesterday it was pretty good, poles are alright by me
>>216636478>it's impossible to learn a language as an adultIdk bro, I'm watching native content daily in my TL without any problems
Is age 31 too late?
>>216637124I hope you mean 13, even then it's most likely over
>>216637124for (you), yes; in general, no.
>>216637124not at all
>>216636784I meant developing good pronunciation and patience to get through the initial stages of learning, and motivation in generalMaybe I don't like French enough or I'm a lazy fuck beyond human comprehension
>>216635406Because it's low effort crap he copied from the /lang/ wiki.>>216635506Cap.>>216635781Cope.
>>216637725Try some other lang from your list. Italian, German and Japanese have easy pronunciation
>>216634999Every time I see a Canadian in Lang they're doing something dumb>>216635243Helps people find input for their TLsWhat do you bring?
>>216637952I'm too old for Japan (I want to be closer to my family, I have to worry more about finances and health, so I can't afford to work or live permanently in Japan). I'm also bored with anime and weeb stuff.Italian seems to be smaller than French in terms of press, media, literature, documents, and prestige. It is also smaller than Spanish in terms of the number of native speakers, and the music they make is getting worse and worse.Spanish irritates me in terms of pronunciation for other reasons. Germany annoys me politically, and Germanophiles in Poland are assholes.Tough choice
>>216638151I contributed a lot to the /lang/ wiki and helped people find resources.
>>216638180I shitpost from time to time
I contributed a lot to posting links to random youtube vloggers with low view counts in every possible language
>>216638180Frankly, if you don't feel fit for lang, maybe it's time for another hobby? Piano, wood and metal working, finer arts of cooking.. Plenty of options that'll increase quality time with your family instead of the study room.Also, it's really getting time to stop doomposting and go to sleep.
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