Anime edition>How do I learn a new language?Learn some basic vocab and grammar and then watch anime in your target language. Doing Anki might also help.>What anime should I watch?K-On>I don't like anime thougheverThen watch Peppa Pig.>Solve crosswords!https://www.linguno.com/crosswords/**Comprehensible Input Wiki**comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_PageRead the wiki:4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language‐learning book archive:mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familytheswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentsrentry.org/inpoot>Refold Anki decksrentry.org/refold
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>Anime editioncagada
What was she getting up to on her solotrip in jamaica?
What would over 2 hours a day, every day, for a year of your chosen language learning method accomplish?
>>217445968> r/dreamingspanishWhat a bunch of retards
>>217445472Real life is so gay.
every scheduled language in india has tens of millions of speakers
>Russian, Hindustani, Korean, PersianPick wiselythe speakers of your language will protect you while the speakers of the other 3 will hunt you down You will be granted $3,000,000 (before taxes) and native level fluency if you survive
>>217446430Hindustani. Most speakers and India has immigrants all over the world.
>Ich komme aus Teheran, die Hauptstadt vom IranWhy vom Iran? Is it Dativ? Why not Genitiv?
>>217446430to clarify, they have to capture you alive and preferably bring you back to their country (or one of them if they have multiple), they only know your name and what you look like and the hunt ends after a month
>>217446775because preposition "von" connects with Dativ. If you want to use Genitiv, then it'd be like:>die Hauptstadt des Irans
>>217446051Not true. This general is much more retarded.
>>217446952I am more surprised by the use of the Dativ here at all. It seemed to me that the only Genitiv should be used here. I read on the internet that this Dativ form is a colloquial way of speaking, but is it common practice, or would I sound like a retard? I also saw "von dem XYZ" in a similar context
>>217445472>watch anime in your target languagegrim
>>217447226That is to be expected though. Most of this sites user base are losers and retards
>>217447749I am watching DBZ Kai in my TL
>>217445472>Then watch Peppa Pig.peppa pig is also an anime althoughbeithttps://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/peppapig/chara/
>>217439490I never said that. I contrasted "j" with "y" as approximate English sounds
>>217447890I don't think they dub anime in my TL (Finnish).Best I can do is Paavo Pesusieni
i have never made a challenge before but i like doing them so>easyi love my doghe is very fasthis name is oscar>mediumbut he definitely eats too muchyou can see that he is becoming fati am going to have to stop feeding him at dinner>hardlast week i took him to the veterinarian and she said that his weight was unsustainableshe recommended us a diet that would have her losing roughly a pound a weeki really hope it works because i can that he is developing a limp in his rear left leg.
>>217445472Thoughts on lingodeer? I'm using lingo deer to learn Japanese and French
>>217448530Anything that costs money is kinda gayIf you can't pirate it, its not worth using
>>217448479fuck the second last sentence should say "would have him" not "would have her">nemjeg elsker min hundhan er meget hurtigthan hedder oscar>mediummen han spiser sikkert for megetman kan se at han bliver fedjeg burde holder op med at fodre ham ved aftensmad>sværi sidste uge tog jeg ham til dyrlægen og hun sagde at hans vægt var uholdbarehun anbefalede os en plan (idk diet) som vil få hende til at tabe en pund hver ugejeg håber virkelig på at det virker fordi han udvikler en halte i sin bagvenstre ben
>>217387113How mentally ill gay I will look when I talk and act like Linds, bros? I feel like she's my lost white twin sisterhttps://youtu.be/6MeMoHodth0
>>217446430Russian. How are they going to find me?
>>217446430Russian, obviously. How's this even a question? As much as I love Parsi, 1 Russian Bvll can can defeat 30 jeets in hand to hand combat. Not a single Korean alive can beat the dagestani UFC champion
>>217448479مېنىڭ ئىتىمنى ياخشى كۆرىمەنئۇ بەك تېزئىسمى ئوسكار但他肯定吃得太多了你就看得出来他发胖了我现在不要给他吃晚饭了我上个星期带他看兽医,人家说他这样的体重不可持续她给我们推荐一种节食方案,能够让他每个星期都减大概一斤因为他右边后面的腿估计要瘸了,所以我真希望有效
learn Irish
>>217449991Grim. Would sooner learn a Arabic to navigate London better than learn that shite.
>>217448479ich liebe meinen Hund; φιλέω τὸν ἐμὸν κύναer ist sehr schnell; ταχύς ἐστινer heißt Oskar; τοὔνομά οἱ Ὄσκαρer frisst doch zu viel; λίην δ' ἐσθίειdu kannst wohl bemerken dass er fett wird; ἔνδηλόν σοι πίονά μιν γίγνεσθαιich muss aufhören ihn beim Abendessen zu füttern; πρέπει μοι παύεσθαι τοῦ μιν τρέφειν κατὰ δόρπονletze Woche habe ich ihn zum Tierarzt geführt und sie sagte sein Gewicht sei unhaltbar; τῇ πρόσθεν ἑβδομάδ' ἐκόμισά μιν τῇ ζῳατρῷ ἥ τὸν ὄγχον αὐτοῦ ἔφην ἄτροφονsie hat uns eine Diät empfohlen wodurch er rund ein Pfund Gewicht pro Woche abnehmen soll; ἡμῖν παρῄνεσε τροφὴν ῇ καθ' ἑβδομάδα μέλλοι κ' ὁ κύως μνέα 'πιέναι δημοῦich hoffe wirklich dass es klappt denn ich kann (sehen?) wie er ein Humpeln im linken Hinterbein bekommt; εὔελπίς εἰμὶ εὖ χωρήσειν ὅτι δῆλόν ἔστιν χωλὸν γίγνεσθαι τὠριστερὸν σκέλος
>>217448479>簡単俺の犬が好き。彼はとても速い彼の名前はオスカー>中級でもまさに彼は食べ過ぎる。彼は太ってきてるのが見える夕食時に彼に餌を与えるのを止めなければならない。
>>217445968I went to spain after 600 hours of CI only and immediately spoke spanish perfectly. Skill issue for NPC with no internal monologue.
>>217449991even irish people don't want to learn that languagelearn something with an actual future like welsh
>>217452093Only northern Welsh people care about Welsh. All the big cities are South Wales (i.e. Cardiff, Swansea, etc) and there you honestly hardly hear people speaking Welsh. Signs and stuff are in Welsh though.If you want to learn a language truly spoken in the UK its either English, Polish, Romanian, Punjabi or Urdu. There are more Polish speakers here (~600k) than Welsh (~500k).
Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
>>217451774yeah but Spanish is basically just a dialect of Italian
If I do anki for more than 20 minutes per day, I get bored of it and have to reduce the new cards per day. But if I do it for less than that, then progress becomes slow as a snail. My brain is telling me that the only solution is to just not do anki.
>>217452674It depends how many words you already have really. I don't like Anki, but I had enough vocab to use gods srs system instead (reading, just just read).If your vocab is low, Anki is still the most efficient way to acquire it, even if it is shit to use. I think it also depends on what the language you are learning is though. If its a completely different script, I would stick with Anki. If its latin script, I would just read.
>>217452636Did the same thing with english, just with more hours of listening.
>>217452904I'm afraid that if I read too much that my brain will internalize bad pronunciation. So I choose to mostly watch and listen to content, but listening to content is really hard when you don't know a lot of vocabulary. So that brings me back to anki...
>>217453105>I'm afraid that if I read too much that my brain will internalize bad pronunciationRead along to an audio book or some shit lol
>Sorry, English is not my first language
>>217447239https://youtu.be/qxOJ4p8e7NQ&t=255
>>217447949>I contrasted "j" with "y" as approximate English soundsYeah, and in English "j" is pronounced /d͡ʒ/. Her pronunciation was ever so slightly more /ʒ/ than /j/. Those two sounds are on a spectrum, when you say "yes" you can notice it yourself, emphasize the word and it goes toward /ʒ/. Maybe she's speaking a little unnaturally to try to be clearer for beginners, trying to enunciate. Also, most languages aren't really spoken the way they're taught to be spoken in natural everyday speech, you often have to slow down and try to pronounce every letter when talking to a beginner. The way pronunciation is taught and the way it's shown in dictionaries with IPA etc are all approximations, simplifications, generalizations and compromises. "The map is not the territory."
>>217452523don't forget Turkish
>>217455520Turkish is only 112k. There are more Italian speakers here (160k) than Turkish speakers. Way more likely to hear Polish (~600k), Romanian (~<500k), Punjabi (~<300k), Urdu (~<300k).Probably more undocumented Turks though, so like they wouldn't appear on the census data I'd imagine lol
i learned 3 asian languages so I wouldn't have to talk to white women anymoreI regret nothing
input
>>217457522Depending on the languages, based or cringe
>>217451774>2 hours a day for a year>just to be able to speak a slightly different dialect of your native languageVery inefficient method.
>>217458467I could probably have done it at 300, I just didn't try. And more than half of it was watching native content I liked.
>>217454383That made me furious
>>217459227Also the reason German has the two-way prepositions which take accusative for direction and dative for location is that it lost the ablative case. German is in transition from being synthetic to being more analytic, well basically all languages are. So they have cases but the case system has been eroded so they need prepositions to do part of the job. That's why they mix cases+prepositions in that way, the cases themselves are not sufficient, prepositions help the cases do the job. I don't know specifically why "von" takes dative but it might be something similar. Cases are kind of arbitrary categories, many things in grammar are, and a lot in grammar is more of an outsider-looking-in trying-to-document-what's-going-on kind of thing than something at the core of the language itself, but it goes both ways really, people try to engineer language, make rules, dictate, standardize etc too, it's both descriptive and prescriptive.
>>217445968luca lampariello has a video about that. he called it the bridge. making the jump from input to output. it is akward and freutrating. for me, it was about 25 hours of speaking practice to get from 0 speaking to b1 after going heavy input.
>>217458024mongolian khmer and tok pisinno korean and japanese + some chinese and vietnamese
>>217459589>mongolianBased
>>217459589prove it
Je sors avec un weeb française ce weekend
>>217445968Spanish and English are too similar for this to work
>>217459565>well basically all languages areproofs ? >I don't know specifically why "von" takes dativemovement
have you ever shocked natives with your tl skills?
>>217461935Yeah I shock em with how bad it is
>>217461935Yes, northern Chinese. Specially when I mention the name of cities and provinces with perfect toneSouthern Chinese don't care much
all these monolingual textbooks are meant to be used in a classroom and have no explanations on grammar or anything, it's very annoying and frustrating to me
Tips for learning arabic?
>>217459906elle est jolie ?
>>217445472للتحدي من أخر خيط>سهلالْيَوْمُ يَوْمٌ جَمِيْلٌأُحِبُّ الْمَشْيَ الطَّوِيلَ في الْحَدِيقَةِكَلْبِي لَطِيفٌ لِلْغَايَة>متوسطاتَّخَاذُ جَوْلَاتٍ طَوِيلَةٍ في الْخَاَرِجِ على عُشْبِيّ الْخَصْبَةِ أمْرٌ عَظِيمٌ بالرَّغْمِ مِن أنِّي أشْعُرُ بِالتَّعَبِ/بِانْقَطَاعِ النَّفْسِ مِن الْعَمِلِ الْيُوْمَ، إلا أنَّه لديَّ ما يَكْفِي من الطَّاقَةِ لِلْخُرُجِ إلى الطَّبِيعَةِ الْيَوْم/لِلْسِّيرِ في الطَّبِيعَةِ الْيَوْمَ الْكَلْبِيَّاتُ وَحُوشٌ صَغِيرَّةٌ فَاتِنَةٌ, لا يُمْكِنُنِي الْاِكْتَفَاءُ منها (infectious sounds weird here)>صعب على هَذَا الدَّرْبِ الْمُلْتَوِي الطَّوِيلِ يُمْكِنُنِي سَمَاعُ خُوَارِ بَهِيمَةٍ تَتَضَوِّرُ ألَمًا وأنا أخْطُو خُطْوَة أخْرَى. لا أتَجَرَّأ إلى أنْ أتَخَيَّلَ نَوْعَ الأهْوَالِ التي تَنْتَظِرني، ما الرَّجْسُ الذي يَكْمِنُ فَقط وَرَاء خُطِ رُؤيَتِي ((bellowing
>>217448479>>217451203amo il mio caneè molto velocesi chiama Oscarma mangia veramente tropposi può vedere che si sta ingrossandodevo smetterla di dargli da mangiare a cenala settimana scorsa, l'ho portato dalla veterinaria e lei ha detto che il suo peso era insostenibileci ha raccomandato una dieta che gli fa perdere circa mezzo chilo alla settimanaspero tanto che vada bene, perché vedo che inizia a zoppicare sulla gamba posteriore di destra
>>217461570>proofs ?https://youtu.be/qxOJ4p8e7NQhttps://youtu.be/2_gnZj7gbnQI don't know if it's ALL languages but many Indo-European languages have become more analytic over time, especially Romance and Germanic languages. Old English, Old Norse etc were synthetic languages. Someone posted picrel book in another thread earlier today, it also mentions this trend, even though it seems like a stupid book.https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.209854>movementWhat? There's no movement in "die Hauptstadt vom Iran". Also, for two-way prepositions movement is with accusative, location with dative, are you saying dative-only prepositions are for movement?
>>217462221Which ones are you talking about?
>>217445472How do I go about learning to speak Mexican?Mexican accent is the best version of Spanish and like any Portuguese speaker I come withh 97% of Mexican vocabulary pre-installed, also I can communicate with a Mexican about most subjects considering a certain speed of dialog is respected.But that's not enough, I want to understand native speakers when they're talking like machinegl guns speaking to each other and I want to sound like them too
>>217462702>Mexican accent is the best version of Spanishit's not lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of6korGHUto
>>217462729I wanna be him so bad pendejo quitate a la verga
>>217462639this is so wrong i won't even bother, whatever man
>>217462702You could try the Mextalki podcast. It's a podcast for intermdediate-advanced learners that teaches Mexican Spanish slang and expressions.
>>217462342what's with the diacritics
>>217462842What is wrong?
>>217462888Idk, you only really need to put them at the end for إعراب or for فعل مبني للمجهول but I thought it would be a good exercise to know how to put الحركات for words and so that I recognize and memorize more patterns
>>217462240Depends or your level and what dialect you want to learn.
>>217446775>Why vom Iran?von indicates possession. some genitive questions can be answered with it>Wessen Brotdose liegt da?>Die Brotdose vom Hausmeister.as an alternative to >Die Brotdose des Hausmeisters.
>>217463415>von indicates possessionanother very low iq post
>>217463475I didn't say that it always indicated possession. in these cases, it clearly does.Dösbaddel
>>217463536those cases should not exist to begin with, it sounds retarded
>>217463645die Rechte von Kindern (“children’s rights”)der Geschmack von Käse (“the taste of cheese”)der Geschmack von diesem (“the taste of this”)ein Freund von mirhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/von#Usage_notes
>>217464020this is nigger speech and i won't engage with it
>>217464128It says there that it's obligatory, and that it can't be expressed another way.
>>217464278can't or won't
>>217464381How would you say "die Rechte von Kindern" without using "von"? There is no article to inflect to show genitive as in "die Rechte der Kinder". Would you say "die Rechte Kinder"?
>>217462702Watch Chaves in its original mexicanese
>>217464505kinderrechte
>>217453080did u do grammer or anki
hello there ;3
basque literature
im mad that my native lang is useless everyone else has millions of speakers, even esperanto has more speakers than dhivehi :(
>>217445472Any German learning resources that provide a deep structural understanding? I want to learn to articulate myself well in the language. Its extremely important to me. I started with Anki and Lute, know some vocab already, but the conjugations/train of thought confuses me. I know I had a similar problem in my six months of learning (and failing) Japanese about two years ago. Where I can know every word in a sentence, but still not truly understand its meaning. And don't want to end up with the same fate.Also, please no "gamification" nonsense such as Duolingo. I want to get immersing, reading, then outputting as soon as possible, since that's the enjoyable part for me once I get over the initial learning curve.I also simply hate textbooks. I know its not right, but they put me to sleep.Oh too, to give examples of what I mean. Think of:>NativShark>Tae Kim(Next sources aren't /lang/, but help paint the picture. iykyk.)>learncpp>archwiki>gentoowiki>LFS>drawabox>>217462221Monolingual resources are more for when you already have some grasp on the language.~1k vocabulary, can think and converse. Then these become exceptional.>>217462702Semi-related question. My hereditary dialect is Puerto Rican. I want to learn Puerto Rican Spanish, specifically. It has a lot of niche slang not found in the typical Mexican/Castillian/Argentinian canon. My grandmother died recently. She was the only person who has loved me up to this point in my life, so I want to learn it in her honor.She also mentioned an over 100 year old textbook on her language at her school, but couldn't recall the name. It also contains some historical accounts. I'm curious if anyone here knows about it.The resources can be more obscure as I already have family to practice with, and already know an adjacent language (pt-br).
>>217448614Is breá liom mo mhadraTá sé an-thapaOscar is ainm dóAch itheann sé an iomarca bia cinnteIs féidir leat fheiceán go bhuil sé ag éirí ró-ramharBeidh orm stop a chur leis an bia a thabairt dó ag an dinnéarThug mé chuig an tréidlia* é an tseachtain seo caint, agus dúirt sí go raibh a mheáchan neamh-inbhuanaithe**had to look these up
>>217466016>>217466183two worst posters in the thread
>>217466970This google doc from FMHY seems to satisfy my requirements. Thanks in advance to anyone else who chimes in.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J5PJK0qStw2DHQHdRHuKIfq_bJrZkFarQVT7fkz13tg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.a440kcvgah0gIts a megathread for German language learning, essentially.
who's learning indonesian
>>217467834sasa uifanye katika kirusi
Why don't languages start incentivizing using more of their native words instead of borrowing words from English? It's not quirky, it's not useful, it's sad really. Many times it doesn't follow the ortographic and phonetic rules.I wish more languages welcomed neologisms created within their language ecosystem like French does, in contrast to passively using English, accepting that their language died dozens of years ago.
>>217469793>why don't languages start incentivizingI don't think languages can make decisions anon
ICH BIN SCHLAU UND WUNDERSCHON. OH BABY ALLES AN MIR GLITZERT
just finished my first book in russian. took me a month but having finished a novel for natives feels great. WAGMI bros
>>217470072jiga siz mektepte rusche ogenmidingiz mu?qazaqstan rusche sozliydighan dowlet emes mu?
>>217470072how many kazakh niggas are there that can't speak Russian fluently? are you an anomaly?
>>217468706I want to in the future, it seems quite cute.
>>217470566There was once an anon learning Indonesian for this very reason
>>217462457>gamba posteriore di destra*gamba posteriore sinistra
>>217470684Based cutemaxxer
why is he so cute
>>217471493おまかわ(*´ω｀*)
>>217466183never compare a real language to conlags
>>217445472>K-Onbasiert
>>217470072кaкaя книгa? a кaк дoлгa ты изyчaeшь pyccкий? я дyмaл, чтo бoлшинcтвo кaзaхoв знaют pyccкий
>>217471493Is that that faggot ass streamer Ludwig?
>>217448479Ich liebe meinen HundEr ist sauschnellSein Name lautet OscarEhrlich gesagt frisst er viel zu viel. Es ist leicht zu sehen, dass er zunimmt. Ich muss damit aufhören, ihn bei Abendessen zu füttern. Vergangene Woche hab ich ihn zum Tierarzt gebracht und der hat mir gesagt, dass sein Gewicht nicht langfristig haltbar ist.Sie hat uns eine Ernährungsumstellung empfiehlt dass dazu führen sollte, dass er etwa ein Pfund pro Woche abnimmt. Ich hoffe dringend dass diese Diät klappt denn er entwickelt langsam ein Hinken in seinem linken Hinterbein. J'aime mon chien il est très viteil s'appelle oscar mas il bouffe définitivement beaucoup on peut voir qu'il est en train de devenir grosje vais devoir arrêter le nourrir au dîner
I will never be fluent bros
Unironically how much of Scots wikipedia can i trust? I dont live there anymore but i grew up in a place where they spoke normal english and not scots english. I recognise alot of words but. i dont know if they kept that autistic americans changes because i kinda want to learn it proper
>>217475045As in normal english in scotland with scottish words chucked in
>>217472440я инocтpaнный cтyдeнт из Aнглии. Живy в Кaзaхcтaнe чтoбы yчитьcя pyccкий. Я тoлькo oдин гoд изyчaл. книгa былa "Tpyднo быть бoгoм"
I feel like once you hit B2 level, writing nonstop is the most efficient way to master the language. AI corrects us and gives us multiple model answers as well
>>217448479J'aime mon chien.Il est très rapide.Il s'appelle Oscar.Mais il mange définitivement trop.On peut voir qu'il grossit.Je devrai arreter de le faire manger pendant le dîner.La semaine dernière je l'ai apporté au vétérinaire et elle m'a dit que son poids n'était pas durable.Elle m'a recommandé un règime qui le ferait perdre environ un livre par semaine.J'espère vraiment qu'il marche parce que je peux voir qu'il est en train de boiter avec la jambe gauche dérrière.
Anyone learning Korean here? I'm having some issues with pronouncing some of the double consonants. My Korean language exchange partner says I pronounce them well, but it's so exhausting. When I pronounce several of them in short succession, I have to literally catch my breath. Is this just a matter of getting used to them or am I doing it wrong, even though I seem to produce the right sound?
>>217475336It's difficult to learn new words and expressions through writing tho, you'll just use words you're familiar with or words directly translated from your NLYou also need to read native content
>>217475301>>217470072Кpyтo, пoздpaвляю. Пoпpoбyй пoчитaть "Пикник нa oбoчинe", клaccичecкaя нoвeллa, нa нeй ocнoвaны игpы STALKER. Eщe из Cтpyгaтcких я бы пocoвeтoвaл "Пoнeдeльник нaчинaeтcя в cyббoтy", тaкaя юмopиcтичecкaя книжкa o coвeтcких HИИ c дoбaвлeниeм вcяких фэнтeзийных и фaнтacтичecких элeмeнтoв.
>>217475336>>217475494Agreed. Writing is good, but you need to actively use new vocab. Using the language without input that challenges you is simply maintenance.
>>217475394>arreter Arrêter >auà la
Can a german please explain >Um des Follterns willenCan i switch it woth a different word? Is it wrong?All my coworkers say theyve never heard it before and ive never seen this in my 18+ years of input. Ai says its a set phrase but ai translates every question i have to english and searches in ameri-english so i dont trust it
>>217475839Oh ye context. Theyre torturing someone and theyve smashed his face in because he but his tongue off. Then theyre like cut his balls off and stuff his mouth full. Then Eliah asks for a gun and shoots him
>>217475869*bit
>>217475839"um x willen" is a pretty common set phrase, usually "um Gottes willen" i.e. "for god's sake" etc. In this case it's just "you don't need torture for torture's sake", pretty obvious what it means with the added context.
>>217475839not a native (lel), so perhaps brainlet take, but isn't it like>we shouldn't be torturing for torturing's sakehttps://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/um_%E2%80%A6_willen
>>217476080Yea im not retarded i know what it means, also um Gottes willen is its own thing. I'm asking about used in this way. I dont care how long youve been learning i want a german flag to respond
>>217476137Ah ok there are sites. I just always asked my mum
Ok its archaic, no fucking wonder no ones seen it. And it means/is a more modern way of saying "wegen/nur aufgrund"
Serbs talking out his arse. Bet he'd say Mutterleib and Gen are used day to day.
>Chef ihr Blick ging gen Westen weil sie Milchsäurebakterien-Unverträglichkeit hat>perfectly normal sentence used all the time akshully - some serb nigger
>>217476467also sprach zarathustra
Last time I answer some nitpicker's question.
>>217475839Perfectly fine. It's the same as "for x's sake". You can insert any noun or nounified verb/adjective. >>217476318It's not archaic. It's just a bit more elevated in terms of style. Do the people around you not read or consume anything that isn't brainrot?
https://youtube.com/shorts/ERpXH0wtvwM?si=WfBapQHwqgyzyehDwhy is french/france so soulful?
>>217470937I have no idea why I made such an elementary mistake. Thanks.
>>217477259>for x's sakeI get it now, cheers. I knew it meant "For the sake of" but it just didnt click even tho i was reading the word over and over. Explains the whole for gods sake.> Do the people around you not read or consume anything that isn't brainrot?Lmao no
>>217477259Gib literature recs please. Ive tried reading Der Schimmelreiter because le norf. But it was boring af. Der Zauberberg is getting a cheaper release now. Ive read Kafka
>>217477520Actually nvm. I just remembered my stack with Hunger, Tartarenwüste, and the lot
>>217477259Fun fact, one of my coworkers believe North mythology, thinks Odin, the tree, and the snake is real. And also believes he will go to Valhalla
>>217477644Is your coworker the head of FBI?
>>217477644Das ist lustig, aber soll er's halt glauben. Kein Grund, nicht mal was Ordentliches zu lesen und sich zu bilden. Sogar wahnhafte Schizos kriegen das hin.
>>217475045iirc they kept basically everything he wrote since they figured that an american with no clue how scots actually works wrote more in scots wikipedia than anyone else and no one else is willing to bother
>>217477721lel
>>217477766He'd rather go to swingers parties
I'm gonna stick to the old fashioned way of speaking and singlehandedly I will restore Genitiv to its former glory
>>217475336>AI corrects usIf someone is learning the beautiful English language, they will be taught the heathen like habits of an American by using this method. Actually disgusting to think about honestly.
I'm going to be a hyperpolyglot(knows 6 or more languages)
>>217478866Depends on the languages you pick to whether it is based or cringe.If French is on the list is automatically invalidates all other efforts. Only homos pick that shit.
>>217475301That's impressive. я caм пoпpoбoвaл читaть eё пocкoлькy oбoжaю фильм aлeкceя гepмaнa, нo былo cлишкoм тpyднo
>>217478141Sorry unc, genitiv isnt compatible eith kiez, the nafris dont understand
>>217478866Which ones? How many do you know already?
Reminder that Kiezdeutsch exists because of languagefags, you shouldve just told the arabs to learn proper german
>unintelligible giberishHOLY SHIT IS THAT A NEW DIALECT?!?!?!??!
>>217479682I prefer Denglisch, you should change your language to be more like the world one.
>>217448479* - używał wiktionary>łatweLubię swojego psaon bardzo szybki.Ma na imię Oscar>średnie*Ale on dokładnie je za bardzomożesz widzieć że on tuczy się*Trzeba mi?? przestać go karmić*.>ciężkieTydzień temu prowadziłem go do weterynarza i ona mi powiedziała, że jego waga* jest ???ona poleciła*?? nam dietę, jaka odchudzi mu około funtu* tygoniowo.Mam wielką nadzieję, że ona działa, bo widzę, że u jego pojawijące się?? utykanie* w tylnej łapie.
>>217480263aand mistake in the first lineI always forget that first person uses -łem
>>217445472Does K-On have a Polish dub?
>>217480263>on bardzo szybki.on *jest bardzo szybki>Ale on dokładnie je za bardzoale on *pewnie je za *dużobardzo = very (used with adjectives, e.g. bardzo szybki)>możesz widzieć że on tuczy się**widać, że się tuczyyou already said on so I'm omitting it>Trzeba mi?? przestać go karmić*.I would say this without mi>aand mistake in the first lineI would have saidużyłem wikisłownika(yes, there is an official Polish word for wiktionary)I might look at the rest of it laterI'm not a native speaker
>>217480201Denglish is only used by jaded zoomers who dont fit in anywhere
damn...
>>217479464I can copy most of the cases' application / usage 1:1 from Polish, I only need to remember the proper article. Not using the Genetiv is actually harder for me
>>217481067Viel leckeres da
>>217481066Facts
Fuck my life, 101 cards in Anki. >>217480263On jest bardzo szybkiAle zdecydowanie je za dużoMożna zauważyć, że tyje / że utyłZamierzam (or muszę) przestać dawać mu kolację (or przestać karmić go wieczorem).Byłem z nim i weterynarza tydzień temu i weterynarz powiedziała, że musi schudnąć / że jego waga jest nieakceptowalna / nie do utrzymania (but it's sounds clumsy to me).Poleciła nam dietę, która pozwoli jej gubić mniej więcej funt wagi tygodniowoMam nadzieję, że zadziała, bo zauważyłem, że zaczął kuleć na tylną łapę >>217480424Nah, it's good. Lubiłem means more like I used to like
>>217481648>Nah, it's good. Lubiłem means more like I used to likehe means where he said >używał wiktionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwdGq72HaOUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gJ67EC39J0
>>217466970>Monolingual resources are more for when you already have some grasp on the language.~1k vocabulary, can think and converse. Then these become exceptional.I think they're talking about natural method books such as this:https://archive.org/details/deutsch-nach-der-naturmethodehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhc0J7rC_vQMUBIVdaj---V5>Any German learning resources that provide a deep structural understanding? Check out German for Reading by Sandberg.https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=142241445And also all the books by Peter Hagboldt and James H Worman, both wrote multiple textbooks for German, old books but in my opinion among the best. If you hate textbooks you might still like the book I linked above, and also James H Worman's books, because his books are "the natural method", which is different from most textbooks. There is this for example:https://archive.org/details/erstesdeutsches00wormgoogAlso install the browser extension for languagereactor.languagereactor.comAfter you've done that you get dual language subtitles English/German for youtube, and then you can learn with this for example:https://www.youtube.com/@PeppaPigDeutschOffizieller/videosAlso I recommend interlinear books such as this:https://archive.org/details/interlinear-german-reading-book-hahn-thimm-1901-marlboroughAlso read graded readers such as:https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137935102 (this is just an edited reprinting of Peter Hagboldt's old book which in my opinion is better https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b312900)https://ia801906.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/26/items/GermanGradedReadersCollectionVol.2/GermanGradedReadersCollectionVol.2.part01.rar
>>217482384Grim, just watch spongebob non stop
>>217483044This.
what is your method for improving speaking?
>>217483208Speaking more
polyglots are always so impressive until you can speak a language that they claim to be able to speak
>>217484153I feel like wanting to understand many languages is cool and quite easy to achieve. I don't know why you would want to actually interact with people however.Outputting is cringe.
I feel a bit sad this morning for having quit Japanese
>>217484787なぜ?どうして日本語をやめた?
>>217485321I get this and now I want to learn Japanese. God damnit >>217484153If they flex too much then fuck them but if they know one foreign language very well and only a little of a few others, I can accept that. But generally, it's better to master languages and know them at a high level, learning the basics is not an achievement but an unpleasant duty until you can absorb and output more advanced content
>>217485321Because I wanted to focus on my other languages and I felt like Japanese was a burden which was going to take years to get anywhere with it which is still true but I feel sad
>>217487301fuck
>>217487364>>217487301peinlicher geht's kaum. Jeder macht sich über dich lustig. ich würde dir empfehlen, die Posts zu löschen und hier nie wieder zu posten, um ein Mindestmaß an Gesicht zu bewahren.
Russian speakers/learners, are there any good native vloggers on youtube? Preferably someone who doesn't talk too fast
should we learn korean? it is very popular in language learning circles now
>>217485606Generally, it is much better to be able to speak 10 languages like a caveman than two languages fluently. The former would give you the ability to more or less understand a lot of people and to be more or less understood in a lot of different situations. Meanwhile unless you're actually living in the country of your TL or need your TL for work (but let's be honest, English is the only language in this category), speaking this language well would give you an ability to, uh, flex? I'm not necessarily saying it's a bad thing, if you like, say, Japanese or Spanish, and genuinely enjoy studying it, no one is going to stop you. But it's a largely irrelevant skill.
>>217488698>it is very popular in language learning circles nowit's not. nobody is picking korean over chinese or japanese except koreaboo foids
>>217488698unless you're going to move to korea, become a kpop star, or consume their media those are the only reasons it's hot right now
>>217488698Not unless you want to join a Korean church
>>217488672No.
serb learning a meme language alertserb learning a meme language alertthis is not a drill
>>217487364Get the FUCK out of the way, BITCH, I'm trying to read a short story!!!
>>217489071tsmt>>217489761pipe down lil nigga
>>217489768Look at what you've done you've hurt Chino-chan's feelings.
this is the Chino-chan! (ꐦ･᷄ὢ･᷅ )
>>217469903>I don't think languages can make decisions anonIt's a metonymy, mein Freund, they do make them. They chose lazyness and to rot down alongside their vocabulary.
>>217484787I get this feeling, but then I remember why I quit it (my dwindling interest in Japanese media and the realisation that being a wagie there would be hell on earth and outside of those two reasons, I just wouldn't ever have a use case for it).Why did you quit it?
I've got like 1200 words on anki. Should I keep mining or ditch anki and purely input. How much grammar should I be strudying if any? I feel like I'm in a limbo between beginner and intermediate. CI is boring, but native content is too hard. I feel lost.
Is it worth learning spanish for the media?
>>217489761He started learning Polish?
Where the fuck is Jordie
>>217490371If you like telenovelas then sure
will the shocking natives videos ever stop? will it ever be like how no one will care if you speak english?
>>217448479>leichtIch liebe meinen Hund,er ist sehr schnell,er heißt Oscar>mittelaber er frisst zwar zu viel,man bemerkt, dass er zu fett wird,ich soll ihn am Abendessen halten, zu ernähren.
Is there an app for learning Chinese characters that allow me to pick which ones I wanna learn? I'm using another app and I'd like to add the characters to the other app as I go.
>do intense anki gooning with some input and memorizing random grammar>make rapid progress>stop doing that and study """the right way""">get nowhere for months>rinse and repeat
>>217467834this is old english or something?
>>217490985Why not make an anki deck with the characters you want?
>>217491714Does Anki support drawing?
>>217491442I find that I make the most rapid progress from making sentence mining cards from my immersion. I remember watching the first few episodes of a simple anime with tl subs while making cards and feeling like I doubled my proficiency in the language, then doubled it again when I spent an afternoon mining like 40 cards from a VN.
>>217491742I believe there are add-ons that let you draw but I haven't looked too much into it. It's prob not the best solution for drawing.
Chatgpt sucks.
Has anyone tried this app?
>>217466970>>217482384>Check out German for Reading by Sandberg.Better link:https://annas-archive.org/md5/d041c9cfe501cacecdac11cdc3af46b3Also, how is Lute?I used this a little, seems good:https://annas-archive.org/md5/f694b1501b156756c9bd90c561c47479https://annas-archive.org/md5/3c86df8a3078c074b895ffbfddb5ff00
>>217492696Just login and use the higher model
>>217491479I wish there were an Irishman in here to react to that
Did anyone use this?https://annas-archive.org/md5/58e07723e4c370df5b4209364400f292
>>217494060it seems like a great language but there doesn't seem like a lot of opportunities to use it
>>217493396I've been reluctant to do that. They're probably going to save all my searches. Then again google does that too and you have to be logged in to google to use phone/chromebook.
https://annas-archive.org/md5/5e5b2ae5ff38f8ef45cf308b78687d05This book has a nice colorful design in the text but sadly this garbage is at the end.
>>217445472learn french
>>217494358learn basque
>>217494248Chad language enjoyer vs virgin language user
>>217466970Also check out this site. I found this chart helpful for understanding declension better.
>>217494845Forgot link.https://germanwithlaura.com/declension/
>>217466970>to give examples of what I mean. Think of:>>NativShark>>Tae KimDon't know what you mean. Do you mean you want resources similar to those but for German? You said you failed to learn Japanese, and yet you want similar resources to those that made you fail to learn a language?Maybe this is similar to those?https://germanwithlaura.com
>>217495006Went back into chatgpt to copy links, the stupid website refreshed and all info was gone, as usual. Anyway, managed to save this.
>>217494387du bist Schwul?
I have two spanish speaking coworkers and I feel like learning some phrases now
>>217495646https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf8XN5kNFkhdS2G2XvTB5gDsr4iyIbbsNhttps://archive.org/details/firstspanishbook00wormrich
>>217495646
>>217445952Reggae
>>217433113>all my childhood traumas ruined my development you know?You sound like those ssri taking bitches. Nut up and get yourself in order. The longer that takes the longer it will be till you can take care of those important to you.
>>217495646https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB8-YY2DyHI
>>217495979My coworkers are both men lmaoI just love /int/ernational cultures and so feel the desire to connect and learn more /int/ernational facts
>>217479464the loss of the genitive predates mass immigration to germany though
>>217489892chino chan... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH CHINO CHAN
Ich bin am ende
>servuskek, "slave" is a greeting in German
>>217497175>slave is a greetingSame as «ciao»
>>217496612this is chi.. alma chan :3
>>217497431interesting, so greetings are either related to slavery or god?
>>217497483greeting and farewells*
>>217490691a large portion of EU and SEA gen alpha can barely speak their own native language because they've used english their whole lives so it'll only get worse
>>217497483https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/servus#Etymology_3https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ciao#Etymology_5apparently Swedish "tjena" is the same, didn't know
How do I translate this?https://voca.ro/1mwPackkFzAe
>>217475045I always assumed Scots meant Gaelic. The fuck is this shit? What hyper nationalist cretin convinced the Scottish population that spelling English like a bunch of blithering imbeciles is a language?
the more i look into etymologies the less convinced i become of any of them being correct especially with celtic and greek ones
>>217498734https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Scotland
>>217498866I ain't reading all that. Fake language deserves no attention.
>>217498866gaelic is less than 50% in the western isles now
>>217498734you are retarded. scots isn't derived from modern english, both modern english and scots are distinct branch-offs from old english
>>217499345Nope, cope and seethe. It's fake English. Nobody actually speaks it. They type it like that because they are illiterate.
>>217447749if you're watching anime chances are your TL is Japanese anyway
>>217499345>old englishmiddle english
>>217475452I think it is good to try really hard to get the sounds right at first. Your brain will figure out to optimize the production process later.
its nuts how ignorant english people are about scotland. I tried to use a scottish pounds in london (which are legal currency, they're just pounds that look different) and was told 'we don't take euros'
>>217499653Scottish pounds are for the bank of Scotland though. Not the bank of England. Two separate entities. Monopoly money here.Gonna dox myself a little but I was actually born in Orkney (small Scottish island) and everyone there spoke normal English with a Scottish accent. Scots is a fake and gay larp for nationalists. Performative "language".
>>217499418>They type it like that because they are illiterate.tfw the kings of scotland who wrote books were illiterateits over inceldom won
>>217499705Illiterate people can write words still. Just won't spell them correctly. Case in point, Scots.
>>217475452Could you tell me why that is so exhausting?Does it mean you speak slower because you're concentrating hard to avoid making those sounds like aspirated consonants?I'm curious why foreigners find this the most difficult, but I rarely get the chance to meet Korean language learners.
>>217499821>>217499699...
>>217500542Cope all you want but you know I speak the truth anon.In 2010 the Scottish government did a surgery where 64% of the respondents didn't think of Scots as a language.Anyone who changed their mind in that time is part of the Scottish independence crowd.
>>217495646learn basque instead
>>217500691>surgerySurvey lol
>>217500712how can he learn basque if he doesn't speak spanish???
>>217500691>a king was illiterate despite reading and writing several languages because of a survey 400 years after his lifei kneel....
>>217500778You know what would happen if you tried to correct a king about the way he was spelling words? You just roll with it my dude.
>>217500764fuck
make scotland great again! >:3
>>217500691>languages are decided by democratic electionlol
>>217500822new level of autism unlocked: claiming older english with 80 variations of a single name had wrong spellings
Scots mafia out here coming out the Woodworks and getting mad at some yute for calling it fake and gay.Makes you wonder who really controls the world...
>>217489892Sorry Chino-chan. That wasn't my proudest moment.
>>217500988aye gevalt
>>217488897Really depends on what you want to do with your language. If you want to delve into the language-dependent arts of a country, then you'll need a very good command of the language. And if you enjoy discussions about complex topics, then a rudimentary understanding won't get you far either. But yes, if you're mostly in it for being able to navigate infrastructure and have casual conversations with locals, it's not a bad idea to stop at like B1-2. That will also unlock a lot of media already.
>>217499904It's not a sound we have in German. Some are kinda like it, like the glottal stop, but the Korean double consonants involve something like an implosive tensing in your throat. No air comes out and you tense up the throat. I find it exhausting because the physical act of tensing is unusual and involves my throat and diaphragm in ways that I'm not used to. And I have to concentrate on not producing the normal aspirated/unaspirated consonants (mostly the latter) instead, so that's an additional mental load. To you it's completely effortless then, I imagine?
Guess this languageഅണ്ടിNo google
>>217505284Georgian
>>217505284telugu or kannada or malayalam
>>217505284amogusan
>>217505284I'm pretty sure this is Malayalam
All this studying... Why are we still here?
>>217506547This is the non study general.
>>217490356I'd keep mining and just look up grammar as you need to. You just gotta push through and be patient
>>217497175pretty sure this is only a southern germany/austria thing
You can only very rarely say that you KNOW some word. There are very high chances that that word is used in some fucking retarded idioms or sayings, that may grammatically and semantically not be correct, but it's just the way people say it and you just have to accept it and roll with it.
Has anyone used the Danish here and now site from the wiki?I've been reading a grammar as an introduction to the language. Is the website a good starting point for practice or would you recommend something else?>>217448479Amo a mi perroÉl es muy rápidoSu nombre es OscarPero sin duda come demasiadoSe ve que se está poniendo gordoTendré que dejar de darle de comer en la cenaLa semana pasada lo llevé a la veterinaria y ella me dijo que su peso no era saludableMe recomendó una dieta que lo haría perder más o menos una libra por semanaEspero mucho que funcione, porque veo que se está poniendo cojo en su pata trasera de izquierda
>>217488672https://www.youtube.com/@varlamov/videos
>>217491479Go mallaítear d'ainm a shasanach gorm, a ghall galrach! Amach leat 's Éire do na hEireannaigh!>>217494060Sásta?
>>217469181i stopped studying russian ages ago but fine>>217448479Я люблю cвoю coбaкyOн oчeнь быcтpыйEгo зoвyт OcкapOн oчeвиднo cлишкoм мнoгo ecтMoжeтe yвидить, чтo oн cтaнoвитcя тoлcтымMнe пpидeтcя пepecтaть кopмить eгo нa yжинЯ вoдил eгo к вeтepинapy нa пpoшлoй нeдeлe, и oнa cкaзaлa, чтo eгo вec был нeycтoйчивымOнa пocoвeтoвaлa нaм диeтy, кoтopaя пoзвoлилa бы eй хyдeть пoлкилo зa мecяц Я дeйcтвитeльнo нaдeюcь, чтo этo cpaбoтaeт, тaк кaк я мoгy видeть, чтo y нeгo пoявляeтcя хpoмoтa в зaднeй лeвoй нoгe.
>>217509664>Sásta?Cinnte. Cad atá tú ag déanamh anseo? Cén teanga atá tú ag foghlaim?
>>217504589Yes, I suppose the difficulty of language is relative.
>>217510036Nílim ach ag casadh súile, Bínn ag foghlaim an Fhraincís le tamall ach táim théis stad a chuir leis anois agus a bhfuilim ag stáidear ar son mo scrúdaithe. Táim breá-sásta leabhairt leat ach bíodh fios ort nach bhfuilim i mo ghaelgeoir dúchasach mé agus go ndéanfaidh mé earraídí
>>217510407>nach bhfuilim i mo ghaelgeoir dúchasach méBheadh sé craiceáilte dá mbeadh fíor-ghaelgeoir anseo. Tá iontas orm go bhfuil gaelgeoir anseo fiú. Cé mhéad Gaeilge atá agat? An féidir leat clasaicí ar nós Cré na Cille a léamh?
>>217509970too literal just like my polish translationbut grammar is ok
>>217511682What if one spoke Russian with bad grammar but simple words? Like speaking without cases or with wrong cases? Is it okay to communicate?
>>217506547Don't ask questions. Just do hobby and then get excited for next time you're gonna do hobby.
>>217511806i think they would triangulate your exact location and send death squads to murder your entire family
>>217512642Haha you're so funny kekekeke omg I'm dying
>>217513172the obvious answer is that people would maybe understand wtf you want from them but you will sound incredibly retarded and be very unpleasant to talk to, but out of politeness some up to many people might just bear with you, without liking it too much
>>217513586okey burudi danke şönnnnnnnnnnnn
>>217513735sorun degil bre
>>217492749I've seen a loooot of ads about it, checked some time ago what it was about (not the app though, some web-based thing). I only checked the Lithuanian section, but the things I saw were quite shit. Their entire curriculum (if it can even be described as that) is just the English one, but with Lithuanian words. E.g. they have/had all these sections about first/second/etc. conditionals (we don't differentiate between them), yet not a single thing about, say, declensions, one of the most fundamental aspects of the language. Oh, and one of the exercises was literally impossible to do correctly because the pre-written endings couldn't match (it was something like dviej_ broliai, but in that case, it must be brolių).>>217509970Same verdict as Bulbashanon, grammar and vocab seems fine, but a few of the sentences feel a bit too clearly-translated-from-English, in actual speech, most of the Я-s and such would be dropped. Oh, and I'd use "мoжнa yвидить" instead of мoжeтe, since I don't think this sentence is referring to anyone in particular, it's just a general statement (i.e. its meaning is more like "it can be seen", "one can see"...)
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