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jordie has returnedonly (you) can stop him
My only reason for studying languages is to help with constructing my own languages for my fantasy world.
It's weird how some pirate sites limit daily downloads and some don't. Artificial scarcity?
God I haven't done any input today goddamn it
>>217643849>languages for my fantasy worldgiga-based and tolkien pilled
>>217644013I mined 5 cards + watched 2 episodes + read 2 chapters.
who up learning they basque
Which do you think is correct and why?>Are you one of those people who have no skill other than speaking a foreign language?or>Are you one of those people who has no skill other than speaking a foreign language?
https://youtu.be/G_IjB2f9o8A
https://books.google.com/books?id=oIYCAAAAQAAJhttps://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.aa0016136681
>>217644961has
>>217645646why?
>>217644961Second sounds more natural to me.>Why?No clue.>>217644745Did you even start and make any progress? I gave you my permission a month ago, lil bro.
What about having this playing in the background all day in a loop. Will it stick?https://archive.org/details/french_self_taught_1011_librivox/frenchselftaught_02_thimm.mp3
>>217645793>Second sounds more natural to me.>>Why?>No clue.I asked AI, some say it's "have", some say it's "has". I thought it's "have". There was also a discussion in the previous thread.One AI which said it's "have" said this:>Think of it this way: "those people have no skill" "you are one of those people who have no skill"
>>217644961The second one because you is singular
>>217644961Definitely the second oneBut it should be "has no skills" not "has no skill"
>>217646493>Definitely the second onewhy?
>>217646226I think it's "have" because the relative pronoun "who" is referring to "those people". Otherwise "those people" is left with no modifier. It becomes "Are you one of those people...?". That makes no sense. Those people what? Which people? With no modifier for "those people" it's just that, just "those people" because "who has/have no skill other than speaking a foreign language" is out, it's taken by either "you" or "one". A relative clause, which begins with a relative pronoun (who), can only refer to ONE noun phrase, ie have one antecedent, and in my opinion it only makes sense that the antecedent is "those people"."those people have no skill" "you are one of those people who have no skill"
>>217646841>Those people what? Which people?We all know who those people are.
>>217644961I’ll correct it for you:>Are you one of those people who doesn’t have any skills other than speaking a foreign language?
>>217643272Never make a thread ever again. Dumbfuck.Previous:>>217590136Challenge:>>217590389
>>217644745nadie. nadie esta aprendiendo basque
gooning to basque porn right nowimmersion gooning
I think I actually enjoy making anki cards. It's like collecting pokemon cards but with words.
What are the best languages for unique content? Not dubbing, not localization, not translation. Something that is not only in the language but also rooted in the culture. Like Harry Potter and Blackadder for British English or manga for Japanese
>>217649444Hindi for epic bollywood action moviesKorean for kino cinema (North Korean cinema is quite funny as well)Japanese for kino pornographyThats about it really.
>>217649444Chinese, Arabic, and all the major Indian languages.
>>217649305I like more making them than reviewing. It just feels like a stupid chore you have to do, just like vacuum cleaning or washing dishes.
>>217649444Both in terms of quantity and quality>>217649590Kdramas are big now, yeah. I've never been able to get into Bollywood, but I see a lot of similarities to anime and Asian cinema in general. A heavy emphasis on theatricality and absurdity, throwing "realism" out the window>>217649639Redhill me on Chinese and Arabic
>>217649722I tend to only really feel this when I get to ambitious and end up with way too many reviews. Lately I just learn 5 words a day and find that that keeps my reviews very manageable.
Yo quiere hacer un bon vivant
>>217649842>Redhill me on Chinese and ArabicBasically lots of content that either never gets released outside of the country or just isn't well known overseas. China alone has 4 major streaming services with huge libraries, but how many Chinese TV series have you watched, or at least heard of? And China has some pretty unique (sub-)genres like wuxia or xianxia that you won't find anywhere else. Well, Korea has some stuff that is kind of similar, but not a lot.Arabic is not as interesting in this regard (or maybe I'm just not as deep into it yet), but it gives you access to a lot of movies and books on Arabic history which is also usually not really well known outside of the Arab world. And I personally know several people who are very much into modern Arabic literature, although can't really comment on that, I've been given some recommendations, but never got to them.
only 10% of indians speak english
AHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHWHY I CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH PROPERY ewww, AM I RETARD?
>>217650984*properly
>>21765068010% too many
>>217640262>how did you start with irish? any resources?Basic and Intermediate Irish by Nancy Stenston are fantastic grammar and workbooks. Things like pronunciation and orthography can be picked up with youtube videos. These videos were helpful for me:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNY8JrVYFUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIokUII7LX0
>>217650984You didn't spend enough time listening to English content, or you gave yourself brain damage from grammar and traditional study.
>>217650984Watch more Hollywood movies :P
>>217652455traurig. viele solcher fälle
>>217646620>>217646841I feel like it's because "one of">One of those people who doesn't have any skills>One of those people who has no skillsThese sound correct to me
>>217650984Same. I now read books with audiobooks in the background and repeat some lines to improve my pronunciation and speaking skills>>217650128Idk. Arabs don't strike me as culturally fertile. Their rock music is good, often from poorer countries or Europe.
Saw this and didn't understand it. I thought in den Schritt greifen meant something like step in someone's way or obstruct someone since Schritt means step and greifen seize. Turns out it means grab in the crotch lol. Also sometimes I think about the cosmic irony that some lady getting sexually harassed while jogging halfway across the world leads to me making a fucking anki card.
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someone make a challenge already>>217650128>China has some pretty unique (sub-)genres like wuxia or xianxia that you won't find anywhere elsethose are slop the TV version of dynasty warriors
>>217650984영어로 머리 썩히지 마
someone post naked women so the swede will leave
>>217656295Do you not appreciate his super awesome links?
>>217644961>ONE of those peopleSecond one
>>217647598How?>>217647894Makes no difference. It's still either "doesn't" or "don't". Also, it's not my sentence, we discussed it in the previous thread. Also, I didn't ask for a correction, I asked for an argument.>>217653582Alright, but gut feeling is not an argument.>>217656295Fuck off yourself, subhuman trash.
>>217656942Fuck off imbecile, we're discussing language here.>>217656995Yeah, but "one" is not the antecedent of the relative pronoun, the antecedent is "those people". Are you one of >>those people who have no skill<<?>Those people have no skill.>Are you one of those people who have no skill?
>>217657018>but gut feeling is not an argumentMost native English speakers do not know why things are. We just know what sounds right to us. Caring too much about it is nerd shit. >>217657271>Fuck off imbecile, we're discussing language here.Post more links please you homosexual mongoloid
>>217656942He's as much a pest on /lit/ as here. I can smell his writing style.
>>217657339I kinda gathered he was a /lit/ fag already. There is a sense of pretentiousness that radiates from his retardation.
Swedish nigga be likeAh yes the complex mannerisms and deep thought in this piece are ideal for [flag] posterhttps://annas-archive.org/md5/3780f51b7fce55d11ee4749d59e96dfd
>>217616314A small note on one of Belarusianon's comments>ктo никoгдa нe пpихoдитMeans "(for) someone who never arrives". If "will never arrive" in the original sentence is understood as "doesn't arrive so often that he may as well never arrive", I'd say your translation is fine enough.>>217657412topkek
>>217657271I don't even know what an antecedent isI'm a native speaker and it sounds right so that means it is
>>217657533>I'm a native speaker and it sounds right so that means it isLiterally this.
according to google AI: The correct sentence is: >Are you one of those people who have no skill other than speaking a foreign language? Explanation Subject-Verb Agreement: In sentences with the structure "one of those (plural noun) who...", the verb within the "who" clause agrees with the plural noun (in this case, "people"), not the singular "one". Antecedent of "Who": The relative pronoun "who" refers to "those people" (plural), which is the group being discussed, not just a single person ("one"). Plural Verb: Because "people" is plural, the plural form of the verb, "have," is used. Would you like to explore other common grammar questions or discuss different subject-verb agreement rules? https://cmosshoptalk.com/2021/09/14/one-of-those-who-a-singular-dilemma/#:~:text=The%20antecedent%20of%20%E2%80%9Cwho%E2%80%9D,of%20those%20people%E2%80%9D%20is%20singular. https://www.wilbers.com/SubjectVerbAgreement.htm#:~:text=wants%20a%20rewrite.%22-,4.,who%20has%20a%20vivid%20imagination.%22 https://writing.wisc.edu/handbook/subjectverb/#:~:text=When%20a%20relative%20pronoun%20is,to%20agree%20with%20its%20antecedent. https://study.com/skill/learn/using-the-relative-pronoun-who-explanation.html#:~:text=If%20a%20subject%20pronoun%20(I,its%2C%20ours%2C%20theirs). https://www.grammarly.com/blog/commonly-confused-words/has-vs-have/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20has,you%2C%20we%2C%20and%20they.
>>217657621Google AI isn't a native speaker, disregard
>>217657621Wowzers, thanks AI (doesn't actually know anything + made by Indians)
>>217657533>>217657566>I'm a native speaker and it sounds right so that means it isNot an argument. Study grammar and logic.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antecedent_(grammar)
>>217657678Oh noooo study the grammmmmmarr guys. This nigga seethes when you don't learn grammmmar.
Oh god, he's also the one shitting up /clg/
>>217657678I barely bother to study the grammar of my TL I'm not going to do it for a language I already know
Idiocracy
>Idiocracy is when you don't care about grammar and natives don't care about grammar either
>>217657621can you get a tripcode or use a name so I can filter your posts, please?
>>217657810I second this. This nigga will be my first and only filter lmao
>>217657678https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3U6MsdBalggrammar rules are superficial, often misleading, and largely irrelevant for language acquisition
German is so much better than English.>Ich kenne den Mann, der den Tisch gebaut hat, den du gekauft hast.Clear, structured, thoughtful.>I know the man who built the table that you bought.Low IQ language.
>>217657907Nobody said that English is good lol
>>217649444>>217649842Question bump, idc about deep linguistic stuff
>>217644961>be swede>ask thread expecting a specific answer>don't get said answer>completely valid reasoning of "I am a native, sounds natural">no one wants to engage in your autism, ever>still proceed to argue with people and ask AI (which you could've done from the start)Average swede moment....Anyway, I'd say both are possible. With the second option mentioned, consider the following base sentence:>Are you one who has no skill(s) other than [...]Granted, the first sentence feels more natural for me (for the reasons you've stated), but that may just be my ESL-ness showing, as I'd definitely go with option one in my natlang.
>>217658033Both are possible and neither really seem the way I would word it. If someone said either I wouldn't really bat an eye. Its such a pointless thing to get his panties (likely a thong) in a twist about.
>>217657018>How?"One of those X" is an expression.
>>217644961what do you mean by those people?
>>217658356/lang/
Japanese learners be like>uooohhh I can't wait to read the visual novel daisuki roricon sisota reipu gaiden in real japanese instead of the 5 different translations that are already availableChinese learners be like>it took you 8 months to get to HSK6? kill yourself you fucking retard
>>217658678Japanese learning spaces are vastly more toxic than Chinese ones lol
>>217659309Please do not learn japanese outside of the designated spaces.
>>217659309in what ways?
>>217659365>Please do not learn japaneseThis is all you had to write. Every year that gets added to my age, the level of interest I have in it dwindles further.>>217659401Its a bit of the fact that Japanese people tend to stick to their own internet, so the only people really interested in it are weebs and turbo autistic weebs who turn everything into dick measuring contests. Generally its just people who like to dick measure who end up really engaging with the community, and the more well adjusted people just end up keeping to themselves. Any beginner in those spaces just either get dunning kruger non answers or shit on for asking stupid shit - which like I get it to an extent but there is a lack of empathy that you would see from other learning spaces.Its quite pathetic really.
Please stop bullying the swede.
>>217659730>Please stop bullying the swede.
>>217659730I will protect the Swede. Anyone who crosses him will have to deal with me
>>217659783I can take you
>>217659730>>217659783Thank you guys! This means so much to me please don't leave me <3
Translation challengeBullying the sw*de in every language possible edition EasyThe Swede always ruins the thread.He is very unfunny and boring.I think that his parents don't love him.>MediumThe books that he posts are from the nineteenth century.No one clicks any of his links, because they are useless.He contributes nothing valuable to the discussion.I think that the thread will be better off without him.>DifficultMentally handicapped people, like the sw*de, should have their access to the Internet revoked.He is a prime example of what watching Peppa Pig in a foreign language does to a person.If he cannot handle a little bit of nudity or normal human emotions like lust and desire, then it's clear that he's on the spectrum.
>>217660875> The Swede always ruins the thread.Svecius semper filum diruit.> He is very unfunny and boring.Valde insulsus blandusque est.> I think that his parents don't love him.Puto eum non amari a parentibus eius.
>>217660875> The Swede always ruins the thread.Svensken alltid ruinerer tråden.> He is very unfunny and boring.Han er svært umorsomst og kjedelig.> I think that his parents don't love him.Jeg synes foreldrene hans ikke elsker ham.> The books that he posts are from the nineteenth century.Bøkene han poster er fra det nittende århundret.> No one clicks any of his links, because they are useless.Ingen klikker på hans lenker, fordi de er nytteløs.> He contributes nothing valuable to the discussion.Han ikke bidra ingenting verdifullt på diskusjonen.> I think that the thread will be better off without him.Jeg synes tråden skal bli bedre uten ham.
>>217661617> umorsomst*umorsom
>>217658678>>217659309most people in Chinese learning spaces are really bad at Chinese lol so there is not the same culture of elitismmost of the time its dumb questions and the same answers
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>>217660426Bork, bork, bork! Vert der ferk
>>217650128I love Chinese and Chinese culture but even I have to admit that 90% of Chinese TV is formulaic overexaggerated dramaslop with some reality tv slop mixed inwuxia and enovels are also just prolefeed and hold absolutely no literary valueChinese culture and media is great but mass-appeal is not where it's at
The Swede is right actually.
