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What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Read the wiki:
4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
rentry.org/refold

Previous:
>>217643272
Challenge:
>>217660875
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I fucking hate myself I can't believe I forgot the title
Here's a challenge to redeem myself

Easy:
>Please take out the trash
>Where did I put my phone?
>I found a coin under the couch

Medium:
>Please lock the door as it's getting late
>I'm washing the plates since we're getting guests
>We need to sweep up all the popcorn on the floor

Medium-Hard:
>My socks got wet after walking in the snow without my winter boots
>I picked up all the shards of glass off the floor and my finger started bleeding
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Anyone study Chinese and Japanese before? I am trying to Orientalmaxx
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>tfw half of native breton speakers died since that map was made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiahpo116OE
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>>217707664
Bring bitte den Müll raus
Wo habe ich mein Handy hingelegt?
Ich habe 'ne Münze unter dem Sofa gefunden

Schließ bitte die Tür ab denn es wird spät
Ich wasche die Teller da wir Gäste haben
Wir müssen das auf dem Boden liegende Popcorn ausfegen

Meine Sochen sind nass geworden nachdem ich über den Schnee ohne meine Winterstiefel gelaufen bin
Ich habe alle Glasscherbe aufgepickt die auf dem Boden liegen und meine Finger fingen an zu bluten
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>>217707664
Por favor, saca la basura.
Dónde puse mi teléfono?
Encontré una moneda bajo el sofá.

Por favor, cierra la puerta con llave, porque ya es tarde.
Lavo los platos, ya que esperamos invitados.
Tenemos que barrer el suelo por el popcorn.
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>>217708124
Do one after the other don't do both at once
>Advice from my friend who is N1 Japanese but his Chinese is very mid now
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>>217707664
>łatwe
Prosze wynieść śmieci.
Gdzie położyłem telefon?
Znalazłem monetę pod kanapą

>średnie
Prosze zamknąć drzwi bo robi się późno.
Zmywam talerze bo przyjdą goście.
Musimy zamieść popcorn z podłogi.

>średnio-cieżkie
Moje skarpetki zmokli, bo chodziłem po śniegu bez moich zimowych butów.
Zebrałem wszystkie odłamki szkła z podlogi i zraniłem sobie palce.
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>>217708917
I am leaning 80% Chinese 20% Japanese. Just trying the scripts, learning some vocab and getting accustomed to the basics of grammar
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>>217708149
It's wild to me that Breton nowadays sounds like French simlish in the same way that most Irish speakers sound like they're speaking English simlish.
Legit took me too long to realize he wasn't speaking French
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>>217708963
If you're starting from zero just focus on one for now
Don't confuse yourself with Chinese readings + Japanese readings for characters
Because it's really confusing and difficult when every character can be pronounced like 5 different ways and written in 3 different ways
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>>217709413
In both cases, it's probably due to the speakers not being natives rather than the language actually sounding like that.
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speaking of, does anyone know any good sites for Chinese film/tv torrents?
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>>217707664
Tóg amach an bruscar, le do thoil
Cá chuirim mo theilafón?
Fuar mé bonn faoi an tholg

Glasáil an doras le do thoil, mar tá sé ag éirí déanach
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Should i just give up on finding books with audio and give Duolingo a try?

Has anyone here completed one of their courses?
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>>217696986
>>217711299
>assimil
https://annas-archive.org/search?index=&page=1&sort=&ext=zip&ext=rar&display=&q=assimil+chinese
>teach yourself
https://annas-archive.org/search?index=&page=1&sort=&ext=zip&ext=rar&display=&q=teach+yourself+mandarin
>colloquial
https://annas-archive.org/search?index=&page=1&sort=&ext=zip&ext=rar&display=&q=colloquial+mandarin
>hsk
https://annas-archive.org/search?index=&page=1&sort=&ext=zip&ext=rar&display=&q=hsk

For audio, the trick is to look for .zip and .rar extensions. Another place that usually has textbooks with audio is:
https://languagelearning.site/category/chinese/
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>>217712077
Tysm. I think You saw my other comment, basically the problem i have is that i have the text files, i just need the audio
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>>217707664
>nem
kan du tage affaldet ud
hvor satte jeg min mobil?
jeg fandte en mønt under sofaen?

>medium
lås døren fordi det bliver sent
jeg vasker mine tallerkene fordi vi får gæster
vi bliver nød til at feje alle popcornet på gulvet

>svær
mine sokker blev våde efter jeg gik i sneen uden mine vinterstøvler på
jeg samlede alt glasset far gulvet og min finger begynde at bløde.
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>>217709982
avistaz

>>217711299
do the mandarin pimsleur course to get started
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>>217712916
what compels a man to pick up Danish
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I hate Hindi I hate Hindi why am I studying this? They will send me off to India (Hyderabad) this year and I am terrified. Will jeets attack me because I am blonde?
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>>217715200
why will you visit India?
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>>217715236
for my degree i need to visit india for half a year as i am doing hindi as TL. At least it is not Delhi
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>>217715310
Wait, I don't think I understood you correctly. Is hindi/Indian studies (if something like this exist) your major?
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>>217715381
yeah I study south (east) asia.
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>>217715411
currently doing course on regional politics and the indian ocean (kino)
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>>217715509
>picrel
EU4 has groomed me into this
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I am about to finish unit 1 (of 10) of the TEFL course. So far, it's about CLASSROOM teaching methodologies. How can I teach English 1-on-1?
I really want to teach my parents English to test my skill as a teacher.
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>>217715773
First, do they really want to learn English and have time to learn it/are not too tired after work or so? If you have students that don't really want to learn, then it's going to feel bad for both of you. But if they do want to learn, then I guess trying to introduce Latin script and some basic vocab and grammar would be the first good step
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>>217715773
Classroom teaching doesn't work though?
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>>217715773
If only you learned a language yourself so you knew what the actual steps are that your student needs to take... maybe you can help him refund your course after he buys it?
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>>217715888
I am retarded, I know I am not skilled enough to start a side business so I might just use this TEFL as a hobby thing and teach my parents English. My mother has always wanted to learn English.
Maybe I might do private, cash-paid, low-price private lessons in-person if I really get good.
I feel like an imposter, but yeah.
I might learn a foreign language after this thing. Maybe a year from now?
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>>217715926
Hey serbbro
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>>217715926
I am not moving to Germany.
I will not even visit France as a tourist.
I enjoy Spanish music without caring about understanding the lyrics.
I have more intrinsic motivation to learn Middle Eastern languages than those global languages, but again, it'll probably be at the expense of my uni studies.
It's a very hard decision. I am banking on somehow stumbling upon a language that has both utility and is fun to learn.
But only English fits that criteria... And I speak it.
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>>217716086
>I enjoy Spanish music without caring about understanding the lyrics.

That is pretty smart, most people who dont speak English do that, they enjoy the music without actually understanding it, but once you go from no english to ESL, you get the language learning mind virus, where you believe that you need to understand the lyrics of a song/music genre to enjoy it.

i like latino music but i would trade my fluency in Spanish for fluency in German, Russian, French, Japanese or Mandarin

https://youtu.be/UWV41yEiGq0?si=cpM7ToKKMyIc721F
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>>217716086
I'm just saying if you learned a language by starting 5 years ago, even a useless one that you never used in real life, you would have still gained a valuable meta-skill of "how to learn a language". It'd be so easy to teach English because you'd know exactly what steps your student needs to take based on your own experience. Too bad English just spawned in your head one day and you have no clue how to help anyone else...
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>>217716349
I became fluent by watching the videos of this girl

https://youtu.be/m5GtnMfG9WE?si=qayns_kzEl621zI1

I just really liked her personality and the quality of her videos, and i also had a decent starting point from english lessons in school, i started translating every word i came across that i did not know its meaning, after that i think i started watching short form content (tik tok)then youtube and now im watching silence of the lambs with English subtitles (if i turn them off i will miss some dialogue). That is what i remember anyway, i was a teen and my memory is fuzzy

It is simply hard to avoid american culture (unlike other languages, where you have to go out of your way to interact with them), i see how my cousins (who are toddlers) are getting bombarded with content made by Americans even at age 3 through youtube and tik tok brainrot. I wonder if future generations could be argued to be EFL simply because of that.
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>tfw Jordie is fluent in more languages than I am
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>>217716609
English doesn't count
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>>217716546
we're probably going to see a mass die-off of languages in the next 100-200 years, many countries will become primarily English speaking, like how Latin and Arabic spread in the past
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Doomer-posting (if I made any language mistakes in this post or have any suggestions, please let me know, it's my daily English practice as well)
I don't want to learn German anymore. There isn't much native (easy and interesting) content and they speak English, and by the time I reach a level where I can use the language at work or to hang up with people or to consume more interesting things, I will have to live in Germany for at least a year. I don't even know if I want to immigrate to Germany. Maybe I'll go for six months or a year, save some money and then come back to Poland.
I don't even know what criteria to use when choosing another language to learn. Maybe a language that has a wealth of content rooted in culture, providing opportunities to earn money and helping to get leid.
I also have an observation: it is impossible to learn a language in the so-called meantime in the long run, especially at work or doing any task which is a bit complicated, it becomes background noise, you stop thinking while learning. Only during walks do audio courses work a little (or during rides but I broke my bike).
>>217716829
I doubt it. If anything, English as a universal language will replace local universal languages, and there may be a renaissance of niche dialects and dying languages.
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>>217717172
These are the main trading partners oyc, i think the languages that offer the most practical benefit to you would be european languages, because travelling to Japan or China would be more expensive than travelling to Germany due to the plane ticket cost and then again, this chart would only matter if you engage in international commerce, be it by being an importer, or exporter, having your own business or working for someone else. You said 6 months or a year, but what if you wish to extend that? you will most likely not move to Japan or China, but you could work in Germany for a number of years and then go back to your country and German would likely still be an asset in that scenario (paperwork, industries where English is not as widespread like it is in programming).

It makes much less sense for someone like me to learn a language, because most of south america speaks spanish, while America and Canada speak english, and i could only visit Brazil, i would never be able to live or work there the way you can live and work anywhere in the EU.
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>>217717350
I am planning to go to Germany soon for six months or a year. But I won't be able to learn the language well enough to do anything on my own, integrate, etc. I will always be the foreigner you have to speak English to. So what's the point? I don't have my whole life ahead of me
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the 2 phenotypes of Russian women
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgQEBTG_glQ
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>>217718021
If you dont have an interest in a foreign culture and you dont see the practical benefit, language learning might not be for you, as you already speak English and most papers in tech and science are written in that language.
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Modern English is a mongrel language, and I like it that way. It has a certain hybrid vigor.
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>>217718324
Well, I like learning about other cultures, I don't get bored listening to people talk about their customs or beliefs (that's why I asked about native content, learning German from translated non-German things seems lame to me), I like learning languages, and any language except maybe Japanese would probably be useful to some extent. It's just that learning the basics annoys me. It's humiliating and irritating in its own way.
>>217718753
It's like those clever mutts who always find a way to get food, and when they get hit by a car, they get up, dust themselves off, and keep going. I like that
>>217708938
>Prosze wynieść śmieci.
Proszę
>Gdzie położyłem telefon?
Good. You could also said "Gdzie ja położyłem ten telefon" We do this to emphasize annoyance on ourself. But your version is correct.
>Zmywam talerze bo przyjdą goście.
Again, correct, but I would say "zanim przyjdą goście"
>Moje skarpetki zmokli, bo chodziłem po śniegu bez moich zimowych butów.
Moje skarpety zmokły od chodzenia po śniegu bez zimowych butów.
But they got wet because I was wearing summer shoes (in which case I would say that), or because I wasn't wearing any shoes at all (in which case I would just say shoes, without the adjective)? Hard to tell
>Zebrałem wszystkie odłamki szkła z podlogi i zraniłem sobie palce.
Zebrałem wszystkie odłamki szkła z podłogi i zaczął mi krwawić palec. Or [...] zraniłem sobie palec.
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>>217707664
Bitte bring den Müll raus
wo hab ich mein Handy niedergelegt?
Ich hab eine Münze unter dem Sofa gefunden.

Bitte schließ die Tür ab denn es wird langsam spät.
Ich spüle das Geschirr denn später empfangen wir ein paar Hausgäste.
Wir müssen alle die Popcorn vom Boden auffegen

Meine Socken sind nass geworden nachdem ich ohne meine Winterstiefel einen Spaziergang gemacht habe.
Ich hab jede Glasscherbe vom Boden aufgehoben und danach hat mein Finger angefangen zu bluten.
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>>217708124
hope you're prepared for the long haul
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>>217721168
I like them
They're faster
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>Geistesgegenwart
Kind of a cool word I just learned. Means presence of mind; I immediately knew what it meant based on context and already knowing Geist and Gegenwart.
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anyone here speak basque
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>>217711149
People just say couch
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promoting basque language?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j-bCVCeLfo
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>>217707639
Just finished book series related auf Deutsch, I'm genuinely amazed I got through the whole series in German and only needed to use a dictionary a handful of times to look up words.
Highly recommend to fellow German learners, the writing is simple enough for us GSLs to get but still fully intended for a native adult audience.
Also the ending was less bittersweet and more straight bitter, but I liked that.
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I think videos about language learning are useless because unless someone has extensively documented every immersion resource, book and course they have used, the most fundamental question in language learning remains: where do i go from here? what resource should i use next?
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https://youtu.be/MVCpE9w4K3E
learn basque for her
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https://youtu.be/WwVZ4Zkq9Bo
wish we could put videos with audio as op pic
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>>217707664
Lütfen çöpü çıkar.
Telefonumu nereye koydum?
Kanepenin altında bir bozuk para buldum.

Geç oluyor, lütfen kapıyı kilitle.
Misafirlerimiz var, bulaşıkları yıkıyorum.
Yerdeki patlamış mısırları süpürmemiz gerekiyor.

Kışlık botlarımı giymeden karda yürüdüğüm için çoraplarım ıslandı.
Yerdeki cam parçalarını toplarken parmağım kanadı.
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I will try to stop invading your space because honestly my plan for 2026 is i will just lazy maxx, meaning i will try to learn other things apart from language learning.

It is just that i want to document everything extensively so that when someone asks me how i learned a language (no one will ask or they will ask to know what not to do) i can give a real answer instead of saying something ambiguous like 'just immerse in the language' or 'just study grammar'.

I think that for many people, learning their target language in and of itself feels complete, for me i really want to have souvenirs of my TLs and use a pen to answer a physical book.


I need to learn employable skills
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>>217722903
or maybe i will complete a free youtube course or work throguh duolingo, idk, i might change my mind, i change my mind about these things every 5 minutes.
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i have made an anki overlay that allows you to do anki cards while in other programs. intended to be used with mouse side buttons, but can also be mapped to other keys. I use it to do anki while in blender/minecraft.

Currently only works for my computer. Would take a little work to make it a public add-on. I will do it if there is a very strong desire for it otherwise 2 lazy
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>>217708938
>>217714291

Hey Vladislav
What does "motya" mean in Russian?
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>>217723011
Maybe i will even try and fail to learn something relatively easy like French in 2026.

What are your language learning or general life goals for 2026 Anons?
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I want to study Persian and Urdu, and maybe even Tamil. Hindi and Sanskrit are not enough
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>he's not learning Ainu
Congrats on learning Worst Japanese
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Where to actually practice speaking with Russians?
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>>217724846
The russian /int/ general. One of my language learning goals would be to be able to shitpost in one of the national generals on 4chan. The mexican general sucks and it is not as active as the other generals.
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>>217724846
Antalya
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>>217724951
What’s your method; memorize overused memes and quotes to shorthand a response, or actually use brain power to try and formulate your own thoughts from the amount of language you actually know?
I like this idea
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>tfw no basque general on /int/
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>>217725198
I would simply avoid cursing them with my presence until i have a decent degree of fluency to sustain ordinary conversations (B1 maybe)
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>>217717350
In terms of career prospects in Poland, the safest choices are German, followed by French, then Czech and Dutch (niche languages, but better paid). But you can probably find a job with any European language, only you will have limited choices, and there is nothing worse than working with people you can't stand.
I will continue learning German for now, but with the idea that I can go back to Italian at any time, switch to Dutch, or take up Czech or Spanish. I am or will be soon too old for Asian languages, and I will probably never master French well enough to be satisfied with myself and casually use it. It's a bit of a shame, but I should have started earlier. Anyway, thanks Mexicobro
>>217721168
Best captcha ever
>>217723501
C1 in English, B2 in another language, B1 or A2 in yet another.
My list looks like this:
1. English
2. German / French,
3. Russian / Spanish / Chinese / Portuguese,
4. Japanese / Italian / Dutch / Swedish / Czech
But as I said, I'll probably never learn Asian languages. Even French seemed like a challenge to me, although now I could probably learn it if I had the motivation and the right attitude.
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english to dhivehi translator is awful half the time it doesnt even translate correctly
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try to convince someone to learn japanese but you cant mention their media sector
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Do you actually say "robić zdjęcia (komu?)" not "robić zdjęcia (kogo?)"
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>>217727298
you could probably convince a linguistics nerd to learn for purely language reasons.
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How can I practice my conversation/speaking in English? Are AIs like ELSA and stuff a meme at my level?
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>>217727298
>Ya like jazz (Jap ass)?
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>>217727484
Shitposting in /Lang/ and engaging in academic analysis of Peppa pig would probably help
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>>217711299
I finished their Czech course but it's probably one of the shorter ones, there were 3 sections when I finished
It's okay for practice/review but it's not going to replace reading and listening in your TL
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Should I buy into to all the "don't read too much"/ "don't read too early" stuff? I love reading, and find it hard to stay motivated with youtube input and most russian tv shows are shit (although there are some good films) should I just read with an audio book, and not worry? I'd like a good accent eventually, should i just keep reading as much as I can?
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I'm so impressed with all you guys. Must be hard learning another language. Wish I was smart enough. Can I still hang around in this thread?
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>>217717172
>hang up with people
It's hang out
>leid
Laid
>>217722903
Lazymaxx while language learning by exclusively inpooting
>>217727578
How confident are you that you'd know how what you're reading should be pronounced?
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>>217728019
i would read with an audiobook simultaneously< and everytime i look up a word i get the pronunciation (yomitan)



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