What language(s) are you learning?>Share language learning experiences!>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Make frens!**Comprehensible Input Wiki**comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_PageRead the wiki:4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language‐learning book archive:mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familytheswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentsrentry.org/inpoot>Refold Anki decksrentry.org/refoldPrevious:>>217995016Challenge:>>218007895
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Challenge: language autism edition>easyI don't know dude, I don't have a guess.How did people learn the IPA before anki?I picked a stupid language. I want to switch to another.This word isn't on Wiktionary. How do I know if it's a real word?>mediumGuys how do I convince my wife to let me spend 4 hours studying a night and just one hour with her?This dictionary's font makes it hard to read.I downloaded the wrong file, now my computer has a virus.>hardI'm generally distrustful of so-called "polyglot" influencers. I seriously doubt the veracity of their claims.It's funny how YouTube keeps recommending me videos from the most braindead, entry-level language youtubers, just because I watched a lecture from a historical linguistics conference.
>>218080911Ŝi estas la plej bela virino kiun mi iam ajn vidis...
What completely frivolous language should I choose for 2026, /lang/, LINGVALANTINA or 日本語?
>>218081939linear b
Challenge: Endowed Growth>EasyYou are very big sir!How is that even possible?Can I touch it, gently... I promise!Does it hurt when I do that?>MediumIt is almost bigger than my elbow and hand combined!How many calories and meals were you fed per day?>hardYou know people can see the outline of your third leg through your grey jogging pants right?Your vo2 max must be world-class to sustain adequate blood-flow during an erection event!Did your parents give you human growth hormone during your childhood, they must have, this is a Frankensteinian size.
I have decided to just learn French, German and Spanish. Its over Zhongguo bros...>>218082298I am expecting all of you to do your new year's day challenge!
Is AI in language models already good enough to be used to learn a language to at least B1 level?Have you tried it?
>>218081939Learn Scottish Gaelic with me bro
>>218082453It might be a useful tool for highly-documented languages with loads of information online about them. But the nature of AI means it will always hallucinate, so it's regularly gonna present you false information like incorrect verb conjugation tables. And if you need to verify all the info it gives you, you might as well just use the traditional materials you're verifying it against.And if you're learning a less popular language, definitely don't trust chatGPT. ChatGPT just attempts to summarize/combine data from google, but if there aren't many results for "irregular verb conjugations in basque" then it has a high chance of telling you the wrong thing.it might be a useful chat partner tho if you want to practice writing your language
>have dream about anons outputting my TL better than I can>get jealous>wake up>realize it was me all alongAnyone else?
>There are now at least two users here who are learning both Irish and RussianWhy aren't (You) learning the lang combo for 2026?
>>218084652I go my own way
>>218080911my neurons are activated
>>218081939if you view both as frivolous, go latin. at least you'll be able to use it more with far fewer hundreds of hours needing to be put into it.
2026 options (pick one)>Russian and French>Mandarin
Time-traveling serbanon, please tell me when I will finally be able to roll my Rs
>>218082298es magnissimus domine!quomodo id fieri potest?possumne id tangere, molliter... promitto!doletne quando id faceo?id est pene maius quam cubitum manumque junxisse!quot caloriae et cibi tibi quotidie dabant?
Which group of people are more fun to interact with? Native Spanish speakers or native French speakers
>>218090467Native spanish speakers, by a long shot.
>>218090467are you for real lmao of course the spanish speakers
>>218090467Native French speakers are famously the least pleasant people to practice speaking another language with
>>218090771Why are they like this?
>>218090771Even french canadians?
>>218080911The person in the photo identifies as a man.I think I can use another word instead of "identify" here?
>>218081939Do you like dead old roman dudes or anime girls more?
>>218091021The ones I know are nice but they speak English when they know I'm listening
>>218091021French canadians are a myth, they don't actually exist.
German lessons done. 10 words from refold deck for each Italian and Spanish done. Gonna give up one of them tomorrow. Now I'll either focus on some more German CI or read a book in English.I need to limit /int/ to minimum because hornyposting in 2026 is driving me crazy and now I want to dabble in Spanish, Japonese, Italian, French, and so on, all at once. Anyway, do you have any advice or a blueprint how to learn German you would like to share?
Feeling liberated after dropping japanese and picking up french for the new year.
>>218091354>10 words from refold deck for each Italian and Spanish doneDoing spanish and italian at the same time is a bad idea.
French phonetics are getting me fucked up
>>218091621Por qué dici quello? Creo va bene o algo.
>>218091621Yeah, I only have to choose one. It's supposed to be semi-serious anyway, because I plan to focus on German, but I want to have a relief valve so I don't switch my TL to another. So I want to do something, but not much, like learning 10 words in a Romance language. I haven't decided which one yet. And it doesn't change the fact that Japanese and French still tempt me but I blame hornyposting here
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>>218091373Dropping Japanese was liberating for me too. I absolutely despise the language on almost every single metric possible>>218080911I seriously hope afterlife is real so I can look like her forever (while speaking Finnish)
>>218084652If I was doing a slav/celt combo, it would have to be Polish and Breton.
The more I learn Mandarin the more I find it sad and wish the ROC's linguistic reform succeeded, which would have added the 5th tone from the Southern dialects and more final consonants and initial ng from Classical Chinese. Mandarin is very phonologically restrictive and lost a lot of sounds over time which is probably why there is zh ch sh everywhere. I find it harsh and Cantonese more beautiful.
Unemployment Musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrFdHVqgjYQ
>>218096835i think you put the wrong link by accident, here you go, no worries.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dA7xyeTDXg
Tummy
>>218097147https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqKKbb49PCM
https://youtu.be/SYtyrpsTfeg?si=wXnvAGhqJOvLc4XYi will learn irish purely through music
I will learn japanese purely through gooning
>>218098008you wouldn't be the first
>>218081939im really feeling coptic bros. Its time to gnosis maxx
inputting with cat girls today
>New Years day>dead threadWhat gives? Did everyone already give up on their language learning resolutions?
>>218099638I did
>>218099638Everyone's too busy studying
>>218099820well there's always next year
>>218099638None of my New Years’ resolutions involve language learning. I just thought it’d be fun to pick up again and I haven’t been here in probably over a year. Crazy how dead it is.
I need to pick up a new language because I got too good at the current one and can't use learning as an excuse to watch slop content
>>218080911Who here /learn Greek/?
>>218097915Irish is so early 2000.
>>218081356Ich habe keinen blassen Schimmer. Hab nicht mal eine Vermutung. Wie haben Menschen es geschafft, IPA zu lernen, ehe Anki existiert hat?Ich habe mir eine dumme Sprache ausgesucht. Ich möchte auf eine andere wechseln. Das Wort ist auf Wikitionary nicht zu finden. Wie kann ich mir denn sicher sein, dass es überhaupt ein echtes ist?Leute wie kann ich meine Frau davon überreden, mir zu erlauben, 4 Stunde jede Nacht beim Erlernen zu verbringen und nur eine mit ihr?Der Schrift des Wörterbuches erschwert das Lesen der Einträge. Ich habe die falsche Akte runtergeladen und dadurch hat sich mein Komputer ein Virus zugezogen. Normalerweise bin ich gegenüber sogenannten Polyglott-Influencer eher misstrauisch. Ich hege gravierende Zweifel an dem Wahrheitsinhalt ihrer Behauptungen. Finde es lustig wie Youtube mir immer Videos empfehlt, die von den hirnlosten, anfängerfreundlichen Sprachen-Youtubers veröffentlicht wurden, und nur aufgrund der Tatsache, dass ich mir einmal eine Vorlestung von einer historischen sprachenwissenschaftlichen Konferenz angeschaut habe.
>>218081939I've been feeling very drawn to latin late personally. I have a copy of Lingua per se and intend to read it this year.
why are germans always either polite, disciplined nice and well-mannered like east asians or soulless joyless anal retentive goblins and nothing in between
>>218101470iirc irish is currently way more popular both inside and outside of ireland than it has been in several decades
>>218101698Irish reminds me of the early 2000s. Back then, Vikings weren't exactly a thing in pop culture and there was a lot of Celtic centric cultural work, movies mostly. But I was a kid who got internet access back then. I remember Ireland getting rich quickly after years of war, and Irish artists were becoming popular, both pop, rock and folk bands.
chat is this possible?
>>218103011n0
how do you say in your TL: "I am too tired to continue on living, my life has a disappointment, every breath is one of exhaustion."
>>218103011No. Though I have had an easier time comprehending Mandarin because I already learned Japanese.
>>218104536do you feel ashamed of knowing Japanese? If I would never tell anyone
>>218104629いやぁちょっと恥ずかしですね(*ﾉωﾉ)
>>218104650if you speak Mandarin, people are impressed, despite Japanese being harder. They just assume you are autistic, removing the difficulty of learning
>>218081939toki pona>>218081504uza caso de esperanto estas plejmalgrande tamen jen estis plibonigi por mi https://esperantaretradio.blogspot.com/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lomolsoft.language.learnesperanto&hl=en_AUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW2ClqXRB9ohttps://www.podkasto.net/2025/11/27/la-190a-elsendo/
>>218097360Upvoted >>218097147https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUi54JTgL5s
>>218081356These are too easy and simple.
Now that I've learned Spanish and Portuguese, is there any other language that'd actually be useful to me as an American or is this it?
>>218104892I've found Japanese to be surprisingly useful here on the west coast
games for language learning (not language-learning games, just regular games set to TL):"A 2025 meta-analysis of 38 studies (n=4102) reports a large overall effect (g=0.962) on language outcomes, particularly vocabulary (g=1.251) and pronunciation (g=0.619). Efficiency peaks in brief interventions (<1 week, g=1.784), declining over longer periods (>12 weeks, g=0.312) due to novelty fade. Adventure and immersive genres yield highest returns (g=1.544–1.026), favoring L2 English contexts. This triangulates with earlier reviews, suggesting games outperform traditional methods by 2–3x in short-term retention"https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09588221.2025.2528786i learned a ton of german form playing oblivion in german
>>218080911OP pic looks AI
>>218104650恥でお尻に敷かれるな!英語、日本語、以外はいらねえよ、できないバカの意見に無視したほうがいい
>>218105235what do the numbers meanalso recommend games
Someone please recommended me German learning channels with pretty ladies I need motivation to continue
>>218080911I fucked up and picked a course in my university which requires knowing a specific foreign European languageI need to learn it to an acceptable (B1) level FAST
>Go to Tandem to practise my French>It's full of niggers
>>218103011auf gar keinen Fall
>>218084652Russian and Irish are not as hard as I thought, though they are different and a challenge. My time apprehending sped mostly with the Romance languages and German that I can read in. I'm understanding some Anna Karenina in Russian now.
>Working on my listening skills for French >Immediately get lost by the second sentenceThis is gonna be impossible
>>218105731>>218105235Bethesda games were super helpful for me for learning French, especially Oblivion, Fallout 3, and New Vegas. The voice actors in those games tended to speak pretty slowly and clearly IIRC and you can enable french subtitles. Even if you've already played them it's useful to know the broad strokes of the stories.I wouldn't recommend super text-based games. There's something that helps things click when you're in a situation with characters speaking to you and you have to interact with them.For some reason I found skyrim a bit harder to follow along with.>>218109037unironically good to practice thoi ordered deliveroo in France and the driver was African and had trouble finding meI couldn't understand his accent at allwhether you like it or not understanding different dialects is kinda a must these days
>>218109037Then practice your French with the niggers what’s the problem
New year, new Anki.
>>218084652>>218084686>there is a factory in china in some tiny, 3 million inhabitants village that produces nothing but (200-1)*200/2 combinations of all the flag pins possible
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>Tha cat agam.>Chan eil cat aig Anon.Scottish Gaelic is going swimmingly, friends.
>>218111997Is 3 million really tiny in china? That's like my whole country
>>218113381Get yourself a cheap VPN and you can watch BBC Alba for native content. It'll be shit, but it's content
>>218114041I’ll consider it. I have a long way to go before that, and I’m not sure how far I want to go with it outside of gaining a solid reading proficiency. Being able to understand songs would be cool though.
Now that there are multiple Irish/SG learners in /lang/ I think we can finally appreciate how retarded Manx orthography is.
does anyone else reject using cultural material from the country whose language youa re studying in favour of just using translations of the media you actually like already? i am playing ace attorney, a japanese game, to learn chinese, and i have used similar japan games to learn french and german before.
I have a qt 21 yo taiwanese gf bros im so happy
>>218082453I tried using it to give me a summary of the Language Transfer transcripts, and almost immediately it hallucinated incorrect stuff that I recognised was wrong.So no, it's not worth it.
Are there any games that someone learning Spanish might find useful? Like i wonder if pokemon games have any usefulness...
>>218116161Play oldschool CRPGs, pokemon is for kids
What do you think about buying Babbel premium to speedrun my Germam learning?>>218106822There is no pretty ladies for German learners. Watch Polish jolly fatso from Easy German. They do street interviews and often try to have at least one attractive woman. >>218104650>>218105512>Iya~a chotto hazukashidesu neDamn it. Why is Japanese so pleasing to the ears? Italian too, but it sounds completely different. Both of them look nice in writing too >>218115476I chose languages from these which have good dubbing in the anime I watch. Nobody beats the US and Japan in terms of content production.
>>218116282>Damn it. Why is Japanese so pleasing to the ears? Italian too, but it sounds completely different. Come sono fortunato a parlare tutte due.
>>218116282>Damn it. Why is Japanese so pleasing to the ears? Italian too, but it sounds completely different. Both of them look nice in writing too You like vowels. You'd probably like Finnish too. Lot of their syllables end in vowels
>>218115642Happy for you, anon. (Lucky bastard grrrr)>>218115476I don't go out of my way to reject it, but yeah, most of the shit I consume is dubs and translations because it's easier to find English content that I like.>>218116161JRPGs and VNs are good for beginners because you have the time to do lookups/translations. Once you're intermediate and can follow in real-time, story games like Cyberpunk 2077, Witcher 3, etc. that have Spanish dubs are great input.
>>218116359Ti invidio.>>218116624>You'd probably like Finnish tooYes! I love how Finnish sounds
I’m enjoyed learning Spanish and Portuguese so much, but French absolutely feels like a slog and I kind of hate it desu. Why is this?
>>218118030>I’mI’ve*
>>218106822Lari is easily the best for German CI in my opinion, she is pretty and has huge positive energy, but sadly looks like she might've stopped 2 months agohttps://www.youtube.com/@deutsch_mit_lari/videostry these toohttps://www.youtube.com/@eleoscorner/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@studygermandaily/videoshttps://www.youtube.com/@germanpotato2/videos
Bumping question about Babbel: >>218116282>>218118030You don't like French I guess. Or you are irritated by the initial phase where everything seems familiar but you have to learn the same language all over again >>218115642I'm jealous, well done anin
>>218116359>Come sono fortunato a parlare tutte due.tutti e due.
bampu
‘Ave yoorself a bumpidh, lad.
>>218080911What you think? >>>/trv/2852700 Any other anons like this?
>>218122002Half of the passportbro population
>>218122002I think you do get a bit of leeway with awkwardness because people assume it's just the language barrier and not your personality that's the problem. And in some cultures, being introverted is seen as less of a flaw, perhaps even a virtue. But yeah, don't expect that you're suddenly going to be a totally different person in your TL.
>>218122002i am very blunt/monotonous when speaking english and have trouble expressing myself naturally but do not have this problem with any other language I learn. I don't know why this isMy best guess is that it's because 90% of my native english exposure/input is text and most of my auditory input is academic/informational material while 90% of my TL input is conversational. so I talk like a robot in english because thats all my input but talk like a normal person in other languages
>>218122530I am desu. In Italian, I am more serious and more sensitive about my reputation, whereas in Polish and English, I don't care about the opinion of being a lolcow. Maybe because Italians always try to fuck you up in a conversation. I'm nicer in English, and compliments come more easily. In Polish, it almost sounds like a marriage proposal.
>>218118130Great stuff thanks
>>218119005>>218116359messeri, è piú auspicabile il servirsi di>ambedue>entrambi>ciascuno di essi
>>218125052use ciascheduno
>>218125163è d'uno stile che molto sa di Dante, mi garba
done fuck all over the holidays and got a shit ton to catch up on now ;/
>>218126211fuck me why was i so lazy
>just speak the language to natives bro even if you're wrongsurely this advice is given by normies who already have gfs and friends in their target language, right? no way this works otherwise
>>218126497>speak to natives at the mall>infinite gainsit's a shame the deep state killed him
>>218126616i would never dare to speak to anyone even in my own language and country
Ranking languages based on how kino their orthographies are (those that use the latin alphabet)
Im going on Erasmus next year and Im considering a maximum immersion approach once I’ve the destination confirmed. Has anybody here some /lang/ Erasmus stories you’d like to share?
i am done with language learning, My new obsession will be architectural drafting.
>>218127307Make them as levels for video games. Bring them to life
>>218126928Very good list that
>>218127374I will be building them in minecraft.
>>218126928would you like german orthography better if, like with sp and st, all those pairs (schm, schn, schl, schw, etc.) would be spelt with just an s (sm, sn, sl, sw)? i have been thinking about this and i can't get it out of my head anymore. this is a regular consonant shift in high german anyway, but it would also account for both etymology and build a bridge to low german. kind of no reason not to...
>>218126928what is your problem with swahili orthography?
>>218127841Nothing. It's perfect in fact, but in terms of kino factor it's just as plain as orthographies get, along with Indonesian
I've been learning Thai for a while now. However, my motivation has been dwindling lately and Japanese has started to seem more interesting. Should I just switch?
>>218127841>>218127914swahili and indonesian should get negative points just because are surrounded by other regional scripts and then they use basic latin, soulless. Malay should have its own script and swahili idk arabic like they used to
>>218128060most of Africa use latin script. if anything latin script works pretty well for swahili since swahili has japanese tier phonology.
>>218128060I'm not sure why Swahili would need a regional script like those of West African languages, Somali, Amharic, etc. Maybe there's some Swahili-phone nationalism that I'm unaware of, in which case a regional script could boost said nationalism.
>>218127578I also thought about thisYou can also revive the long s, <ſ> to make some of the orthographic confusion disappear.for example geſloßen vs Ausländer
>>218128168I think swahili serves mostly as a much needed lingua franca in East Africa outside of English. Most of the speakers learned it as a second language, and most of them identify with their tribe/region, and country. Rather than a distinct swahili people identity.
>>218128333tempting
>>218128494Swahili probably has most resources outside french and arabic for sub-saharan african languages.
>>218128211reasonable concern, but ultimately irrelevant, because only foreigners could ever be confused by this. and if we were to bring back ſ, then i would prefer the old rules, that is, ſ only for syllabic initial, or inbetween vowels, end of the syllable it should be s. st and sp are always ſt and ſp (aswell as the aforementioned clusters that correspond to high german consonant shift s->sch), ss is always ſſ, sch is always ſch, and so on. but again, it isn't really necessary to do that.
>Eins und eins zusammenzählenKind of amusing. Germans say put one and one together where as we say put two and two together (as in connect the dots)
>>218128686>comparing apples and oranges >äpfel mit birnen vergleichen
>>218128686>>218128700>that ship has sailed>der zug ist abgefahren>two birds with one stone>zwei fliegen mit einer klappe
>>218128700>>218128721>for peanuts >für einen Apfel und Ei>that's old hat>das ist Schnee von gesternI do like these close but not quite idioms
https://www.youtube.com/@UrbanGarbagebin/shortsMy polish queen...
Wasted so much time collecting 10 rubies only to realize "rüben" means "beets" lol
>>218130361KEK that's kinda cute rubin is ruby what game btw
>>218130857Stardew Valley
How difficult is Cantonese if you learn Mandarin? Do you just need the extra tones? How much do they differ in grammar and vocabulary, especially the spoken common language.
you will /never/ be this coolhttps://vulk.bandcamp.com/album/vulk-ez-da
>>218081356>easy Jeg ved ikke, mand. Jeg har ikke gæt.Hvordan lære personer IPA før Anki? Jeg valgte et dom sprog. Jeg vig til skift til en anden.Dette ord er ikke pa Wiktionary. Hvordan ved jeg det er en ægte word?
Why are thirdies like this?
