DJT is a language learning thread for those studying the Japanese language.Japanese speakers learning English are welcome, too.Read the guide linked below before asking how to learn Japanese:https://web.archive.org/web/20220326112058/https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.htmlGrammar references: https://djtguide.github.io/grammar/grammarmain.htmlArchive of older threads: https://desuarchive.org/int/search/subject/Daily%20Japanese%20Thread/Translation requests, insults, politics, reddit posts, lust, learning method / eceleb discussions:>>>/jp/djtPrevious Thread:>>219689085
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In 5 years could I become proficient enough in Japanese to write manga? I'm practicing my art and I'm wondering if I should just start Japanese now.
>>219874425>In 5 years could I become proficient enough in Japanese to write mangaYes>why not just write them in English
>>219874506>why not just write them in EnglishI feel like I won't be taken seriously. The only time manga inspired comics outside of Japan do well is when they're vertical scroll comics. People shit on OEL manga so I'd rather just produce for the biggest comic market.
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>>219874864それは彼の友達です : O
>>219870586Thanks. Though I'm still not quite getting it, because the event they're discussing is in the past. Maybe next time.
>>219877222ジブラルタルの友達です
>>219874555I'd personally appreciate an OEL manga more than one that's written in non-fluent Japanese. I think your time would be better spent just practicing art instead
I wanna learn japanese but I also wanna learn chinese and whenever I start learning one I get fomo and fud about the choices I made for eachI have gotten like 1k words deep in each of them in the past but then I get worried if I made the right choice and fall off
>>219882082>I wanna learn japanese but I also wanna learn chinese and whenever I start learning one I get fomo and fud about the choices I made for eachYou're better off clarifying what you learn Japanese or Chinese for and deciding which one to prioritize over the other.Setting your priorities with clear reasons in advance might free you from your anxiety.
>>219883046Theres pros to each>japaneseI'm on 4chan so obviously I like anime and video games. Theres a monumental amount of content that learning japanese opens up to meBut the amount of speakers and opportunities to use the language to connect with others isn't particularly huge unless I go to japan. >chineseThe sheer number of speakers is massive. Learning chinese opens professional connection opportunities with over 1 billion people. It would be nice to date a cute chinese girl too and idk chinese girls just seem more approachable.But it doesn't have the huge swathes of enjoyable content to consume like japanese. A lot of it is just chinese translations of japanese mediaReally I want to learn both and I should stop being anxious and just pick one because learning one will help with learning the other.
>>219884053Learn Japanese then because i, knower of things, internet schizo and big lady enjoyer, said so. There problem solved.
>>219884053which one do you enjoy learning more? learn thatboth languages are too difficult to learn for usefulness alone, just learn spanish or something if that's what you're into, easy and very useful
このスレによく書き込んでるやつは全員、口に直キスしてやるぞ。
>>219884456holy based thank you im imagining that girl putting me in head scissors and yelling at me to learn japanese and its working
>>219879391えっ?よくあたしの期待裏切ったなぁ
>>219873658
>>219893466Hi isaac
>>21988783430分5000円でお願いします
>>219894064hi
Ok I want to try an experiment.I was looking at the CIA methods of fast language learning and they mention that its just really rough drilling hell of massive volume. I want to see If I can maintain anki like this for a month.I've gotten up to 20 words per day and 200 reviews on my other lang when I was regularly studying and that felt pretty doable. But obviously this is orders of magnitude more work.pray for me
>>219895489Hooray!
>deck is immediately starting me off with synonymsaaaaaieeeeeeeee
i am your antonym :3
朝勃ちが収まるまで30分
萎えろ!
>>2198954893000 new words in a month is certain to fail, save yourself the time and headache and do something else
>>219898598hisac!
>>219897117ok, maybe you are right at least tonightI'm really tired at 40 words deep
ちんこりん
>>219899749For an estimate, you also have to do your new count x10 in reviews every day after a month or two
zestiness新単語
>>219898755hi
>>219903100どういう意味?
>>219905058彼ではないけど「zestiness (zesty + ness)」は情報量が少ないね。形容詞形である「zesty (名詞である zest に -y が付いた形)」を検索したら、以下のような意味らしい>Having a piquant or pungent taste; spicy.>刺激のある味の, ピリッとした味の, スパイシーな>Zestful.>活気に満ちた, 活気あふれる>(informal, LGBTQ, of a man) Flamboyantly or effeminately gay.>(非公式, 男の LGBTQ) 派手な / 女々しいゲイの>(Internet slang, by extension) Gay.>(インターネットスラング, 転じて) ゲイの / 同性愛の / 同性愛的な元々の形である「zest」の語源はフランス語の「zeste」で「柑橘類 (オレンジやレモンなど) の皮」という意味。彼が、どの意味を意図したのかはわからないけどね。
>>219905490なるほど4chanだから>女々しいゲイのだろうね
>>219905490tranimeみたいなもんか
OH YEAH THERE SHOULD EVEN MORE FUCKING KUN READINGS WHY NOT THE WHOLE KANA TABLE
>>219908991Comment allez-vous? :)
>>219909107MALTROP DE 訓読み
変える帰る返る替える蛙
>>219910503私は井戸の中の蛙
井の中の蛙バルト海を知らず(*ΘωΘ)
I want to work on my writing, what books or resources would you recommend for that? Would RTK be good for that or is that moreso just for memorizing they "meaning" of the kanji less the meaning? I'm intermediate already but my writing ability is close to nothing.
>kun reading vs on readingwtf how does this make any sense
>>219905490chino chan
>>219918197実に美しい。
>>219918197花も恥らうビッチ
あげ
https://litter.catbox.moe/zu586lgsiw0y6qzo.webp何だ、この文字?どういう意味?
>>219920827一旦
お茶が入りましたよ( ^^) _旦~~
>>219920827>豆>亘
>>219920905>一旦ストップどうやって気付いてなかったのだろう、今見てると明らかだけどまぁ感謝するぜ、緑島はまだ渡さないけど
>>219921019ここで米人に負けてどうする
>>219921057豆(を責めるの)ストップぅ〜<3<3<3 is also right! >:3
>>219920827>こどもちんちん
西洋式住所表記嫌いです
。。。珍固。。珍固珍固。珍固珍固珍固。。。。⋃。。珍固珍固。。。珍固
extremely low quality post
なぜおもしろいホモコンテンツは日本とロシアにしかないのか
仮面ライダーもホモの時代か
>>219914621Imagine if English used kanji for a second.時 would have a kunyomi of "time", and onyomi of "chrono" and "tempo"時々(ときどき) would be read as "sometimes", and 臨時(りんじ) would be "temporary"Looking at it like this... 生 would have onyomi like "vita" and "bio", and kunyomi like "live", "birth", "born", "birthplace", "fresh", etc lol
>>219924219wow, you have a lot of vocabs! I kneel _(:3｣ ∠)_
掻っ攫う搔っ攫う
>>219926235読めても書けないよ...
There are tools and scripts for translating kanji I come across online right?What tools do you guys use?
>>219927734google lens :3
>>219927734Rikaitan on desktop, 10ten on mobile, but really as long as you can’t recognize at least 1000 of them and their base readings you’re toast
>>219928337
>>219928369I want this english ver
あるはず
英英か英日辞書入れるだけよね( ˘ω˘)ｼﾗﾝｹﾄﾞ
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm46013906
>>219929191It looks like there are some, these are on the Chrome extension store· Weblio エクステンション· Weblioポップアップ英和辞典· Mouse Dictionary試してみてはどう?
Which online English dictionary do you guys think is the most useful and recommendable to intermediate (or advanced) English learners?I usually use the longman or the cambridge when I encounter new English words in the wild, but what would you rate these two dictionaries out of 10 as a reliable source? or should I stop thinking too much and choose whichever dictionary I want?
wby are japanese so low morals?
>>219932920Why are you so low English?
Learned every kana but foundout fontschange entire charachtethers fmcl
>>219932726I'm a native speaker, but I use Cambridge myself. I like the online one has both UK and US pronunciations to listen to.Though I think just about any popular dictionary will be highly reliable, so I wouldn't worry too much and just choose the one you like.
>>219933484The same goes for kanji.I often see Japanese beginners having trouble with the difference in appearance between fonts.To give an example, pic related is how different the kanji 令 is depending on the font.>>219934126I see, thank you for the advice!
>>219932726I agree with UK anon, mainstream dictionaries are usually quite consistent compared to one another so any one you like will probably be fineBut I also recommend that you look at Wiktionary plus whatever other dictionary you choose. Just like Wikipedia, anyone can contribute on Wiktionary so not everything might be safe to believe, but it's a lot faster when it comes to writing about new slang that you'll see people using on the internet. It's much better curated than something like Urban Dictionary for example
ビール何本かのんだら日本語を読めないから気をつけて
>>219940214酒池肉林
キしたい
I'm just some random guy
ちん上
after all, why shouldn't I be killed?why shouldn't I be destroyed?
俺も乙女といちゃいちゃしたい
>>219946068黙れハゲ
>>219931392thank you!
I am rewatching old anime and I feel giga nostalgia
>>219934918Thank you for the answer, Canadian anon.
https://youtu.be/tukP-Q8f2Xc?t=64まんまボヤッキーじゃん
>>219947782わかる(´;ω;｀)ｳｯ…
>>219948259よくご存知で
Do you understand? I'm a fucking faggot who has to die. Do you get what I'm saying?
>>219941410似た系
>>219951609酒池肉球
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm46055812
サイニーは社会的に死ぬ| ε:)〜( ε¦)0
>>219954949hi catsura! (ΦωΦ)
>>219955014hi
>>219956497>>219955045美味しそう(私は中国人です。)
YOU食べチャイナYO! ∑:3
>>219956956悪くないダジャレww
>>219954919
>t.おすとりゃんsenpai
珍珍。。。。。。。。満満満満珍珍珍珍珍。。。。。。。。満珍珍。。。。。。。。満満満満
>>219956907>>219956956Speaking of 中国, I'm sad that 支那, often spelled シナ in katakana instead, is no loger common as a neutral word for China.The word itself came from a phonetic transcription of Sanskrit चीन (cīna) used in ancient India to refer to 秦朝 (Qin dynasty).Oddly enough, it' still used as a neutral term for regions around China though.Examples>東シナ海 (East China Sea)>南シナ海 (South China Sea)>インドシナ (Indochina)>インドシナ半島 (Indochinese Peninsula)>>219958534これを思い出した (pic related)
>>219964236>>219965854kitty!
>>219965910nyaa~~
>>219965938hisac
>>219967497hi
gudmornin
Primary Colors原色のままの僕ら混じり合うことを怖がってるPrimary Colorsすべては未来の僕ら手を取り合った時無限に広がっていくColors
お尻。
>>219970406I'll spank you! >:3
ฅ(º ﾛ º ฅ)ふぉぉぉぉ
>>219970456そうしたら、射精するぞ。
there's no buddhadharma herethere is no 善知識 here
>>219968636top o'
>>219971703how long are you going to reach 四聖? :3
>>219971703this is 涅槃寂静
>>219971703凹凸これが真理
>>219971703by the way, I enjoy reading your translation buddhism posts very much even though I don't into japanese/old chinese/whatever it is to appreciate the writings.
>they don't get lewded muchthat means like they dont get horny or sexualized?
>>219972093means they don't get sexualized, yes
>>219972138thanks
取引しよう
deal!
じゃぁあれもってこいや!
これでヨシッ
>>219973940まあちょっと違う
>AFAIK>as far as i knowもうやめましょうよこんなのっ!
>>219974364IANAL
>>219974378も終言
>try to chat with a japanese person>i take so much time checking if my sentence is ok with jisho and deepl and google the conversation loses any flow and i just give upw
>>219974809same same
>>219974517
>>219974809>try to have a face-to-face chat with a person.>can't find anything to say to them, so i can't keep the conversation going.>i realize how socially awkward i am.>communication with others is essential skills to lead a social life, but I have no idea what to do with my social awkwardness.for me, this fucking world is a hell on earth.anyone save me from this eternal suffering....
そんときゃ母国語で捲し立てたったらええねん(｢・ω・)｢ｶﾞｵｰ
>>219975632もう終わりだよこの言語BKB!ヒーエ!
>>219974378the first A(am) makes it clear that the sentence is written in the first person so ANAL can work without I
アナル
>>219974378In Japanese: OHLNJ
>>219976925Oi Hentai Lolicon Nihon Jin?
>>219976913qué anal :3
>>219977058暴力な肛門性交?
>>219977130>暴力quéにそんな意味が(´・ω:;.:...
>>219977203>quéにそんな意味いいえ, 違います
>>219977411¡qué ratón! ~(=^･･^)
>>219977577
>can recognize a lot of basic verbs but not the correct conjugation / tense>still have to look up inflections every time i see one that isn't in its regular form even after writing them out everyday>a ton of very important verbs break their own rules for conjugating properlyi fucking hate thisdoes it get any easier?
>>219979151Just read a lot and it'll become natural, thankfully japanese verbs are very regular for the most part
When you attach a verb to べき, it has to be the plain form in modern Japanese grammar.>話す -> 話すべき>生きる -> 生きるべき>食べる -> 食べるべきThis rule also applies to 恥じる categorized as group 2a (called 上一段活用 in Japanese), but you can also see 恥ずべき in the wild even though nobody says 恥ず or 恥ずる instead of 恥じる.>恥じる -> 恥じるべき / 恥ずべきIn addition to that, either すべき or するべき is fine when it comes to する verbs.>攻撃する -> 攻撃すべき or 攻撃するべき>行動する -> 行動すべき or 行動するべきSpeaking as a Japanese native, I feel like Japanese has grammatical exceptions more than you guys think.
きて見べき 人もあらじな わがやどの 梅のはつ花 をりつくしてむ
山たかみ 花の色をも 見るべきに にくくたちぬる 春かすみかな
