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Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.

07th Expansion archive:
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Password: 07

Old archive backup at:
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Previous thread: >>47264682
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where did the Coward_way.jpg poster disappear to?
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>>47302518
it's been pretty quiet on the whole lately, can't say i mind
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>>47302518
He took the Coward Way.
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My dear, sweet, beloved Anju
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>>47302594
moshi moshi?
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>>47302594
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>>47302598
you gotta stop trying to steal sayo's man, mion!!
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this is unfair
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>>47302598
STOP THIS
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>>47302605
This is the consequence of Rena stealing K1 from <best girl>
The timeline needs to be corrected for the happy ending!
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>>47302598
She's fast...
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>>47302598
>>47302599
same person?
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>>47302719
nop
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>>47302733
I kneel
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>>47302598
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>>47302598
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>>47302599
>Kanon seducing Mio while Battler and Shannon are in the same line
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>>47303038
you can't just jump in kanon that's not how phone calls work
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>>47303038
What would a phone call between Mion, Shion, Kanon and Shannon sound like?
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>>47303601
It would be 2 people talking
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>>47303174
It's a party line. Sayo just put on her red hat. It changes more than you'd think.
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>>47303038
Kanon is the only character that genuinely looks best in anime form to me
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>>47304575
The thing that BUGS me the most about anime's artstyle are the bug eyes
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>>47302518
Maybe we should beat ryukishi up for this faggotry? He had no issues writing about it when all the sandchuggers in the middle east were being blown up but all of a sudden it's different when it's jewkraine.
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>>47304778
I don't see anything wrong with them
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>>47304982
>let’s beat up Ryukishi guys!
You seem like a high quality poster and an exemplar of this intellectual general.
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>>47305336
This but unironically, the only question is do we leave him to bleed to his death or do we drop him unconscious at a public spot?
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>>47304982
>>47305496
Let's make him apologize first for creating gou before letting his bleed out like a pig on the street
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>>47305554
do you often see pigs bleeding out on the streets?
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>>47305938
Isn't her head too big?
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>>47305996
knowledge stores in there
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How bad was Higurashi Gou, anyway?
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>>47306471
On a scale from Umineko to Masterpiece it was pretty Umineko
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[-]
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>>47306700
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the peace was nice while it lasted
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>>47306912
lambda sexo
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>>47306912
What is the non-magic interpretation of this?
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>>47306979
maria eating that candy rosa got her in the lewdest way possible for the purposes of battler seduction
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>not a single rena post in hundreds of posts
>thread is almost entirely peaceful
Is there any more proof needed that Renafags are literal fucking cancer intentionally killing the threads? Worst posters ever, deserving to be called rats.
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>>47307042
rena was in last thread, dummy
you know who wasn't? satoko
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>>47307042
We all know RenaGODS don't shit up the thread, anon.
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>>47307042
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Who's the most horny WTC character?
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>>47304778
the anime designers did good work on him
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>>47307249
the rapist herself
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>>47307249
The person behind stakes' design
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>>47302872
I see it.
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>>47307338
see what anon? don't tell me you're having another hallucination...
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>>47302872
God I want to nuzzle my face firmly between Mion's breasts and let her pamper me as she strokes my hair.
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>>47302872
>>47302872
What is the tiny spot on her collar?
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>>47307375
There's a button on the other side on the collar
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>>47307351
It's either a bot or a clumsy anon misquoting a different post
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>>47307052
She's in one of the first posts in that thread though
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>>47307351
Her armpit I would guess
Lord knows that's what I'm looking at
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Why did actual Mion art get deleted?
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>>47307386
Yet there is no hole for the button on the opposite side, truly a shit drawing
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Uu.
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>>47307630
Help me Rosa I am in great pain
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>>47302719
It obviously is, yes.
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>>47307689
I refuse to believe it. It's not fun otherwise.
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Miotsukushi Omote really does suck ass, stupid twist aside, the additional lines added to reference the OC Donut Steels/add in context from the console arcs were recorded with different quality mics so the voice lines are even more jarring then they would be normally.
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Toujirou won't be happy his attempt failed
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Hihihi~
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>>47307249
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d'you think any part of ciconia phase 2 involved an assassination attempt on the american president
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i can't believe battler did 9 11
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>>47310122
no but phase 2 just got pushed back another year
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the riddle is inside. sadly my ordered wax stamp didn't get delivered, so I had to improvise with a potato wax stamp
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>>47309977
Cute and cheesy
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>>47310141
UOOOHHH BEATO SEXO
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>>47302463
when they fly.
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>>47310763
>1
Bad option, Battler crying, Beatrice cackling, and Maria screaming her uu-uu would be a miserable flight
>2
Decent option assuming the in-flight movie doesn't trigger Rena's kyute mode too hard
>3
Solid choice since Irie's maid autism will be tempered by the hags in front of us
>4
Would be okay but unfortunately Miyao and Jayden are too close to each other, will likely lead to gay shit
>5
Terrible option, same issue as above but now you're also next to Rika and Satoko screeching at each other and probably crying halfway through
>6
old man Kinzo will probably fall asleep, unfortunately he's blocking you from chatting up Shion
>7
Easy access to Shion from her blindspot but now you're right next to Erika and Bern who absolutely cause a massive ruckus if they;re next to each other, plus you're trapped in the window seat
>8
Probably a chill spot in the middle, you might be able to take a nap on Shannon's chest pillows if you're lucky.
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>>47310863
>Rika and Satoko screeching at each other and probably crying halfway through
This is the VN sprites, Gou isn't canon to the VN
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>>47310763
3. Eva is absolutely going to get testy with Natsuhi at some point in the 8 hours, but it shouldn't last long. Slightly worried about Erika on my diagonal, but I have both Irie and Shannon to talk to. Eva and Bern might keep Erika's 'tism in line a bit.
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>>47310903
They're children on a plane, with no parents/guardians nearby. They WILL get annoying
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>>47310763
Sit with Rika somehow
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>>47310763
8 so I can give both Claire and Shannon a handjob at the same time
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>>47311000
>behind
Attacking Maria next to Beatrice, and Rena is guaranteed viscera (yours) splattered across the cabin. Rika's blasé expression as you're killed would be funny though.
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>>47310763
8 because it's three free seats
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>>47311007
a-a handjob in their clits right?
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>>47311066
Someone bought a ticket, but we're not really sure where they're sitting.
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Do people here hate Ciconia or something. I never see any art posted at all.
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>>47311190
Ciconia has to actually exist before people can care about it.
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>>47311190
Proof that 4chan is browsed by someone other than non-whites
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>>47311190
I like it but I am not an artist and I get most of my art here to begin with
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or a higurashi version where takano is the shooter. Rika is trump and the female secret service lady is hanyuu
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>>47311398
Based shitskinchad
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>>47310763
2 and I get Rena to give me a lap pillow or 5 and I rub Satoko's thighs.
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>>47310763
Will shannon join the mile high club with me if I pick 8?
If not, I either convince her it'd be funny to mess with the retards in front of us or go to 2 and get Rena to do lewd things somehow.
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>>47310763
No Ange = I want to jump off the plane, but 2 is also good
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>>47310763
i am sitting in 7 and attempting to seduce the drunk cat and dumb rat, wish me luck
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>>47310763
5 (I'm Keiichi)
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>>47313070
>dies
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>>47310763
Knock on the cockpit's door. Cause I'm pretty sure that the only characters who could pilot a plane are Mion and the two mercenaries I always forget the names of. If it's the mercenaries, chances are they'll kill everybody on the plane anyways, so there's really nothing to lose.
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>>47310763
I sit next to Satoko and rub her body just enough that she gets horny enough to drag me off to one of the toilets.
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>>47313222
Based K1
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>>47313177
>the only characters who could pilot a plane are Mion
MION LOOK OU-
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>>47307008
I've been wondering why Rosa hasn't introduced Maria to the life of a slutdom? It is quite clear thar Rosa is and always was a slut. Introducing her daughter to lifestyle of a slut, how to seduce a man, how to please a man would have brought them closer than anything else. If tragedy didn't happen, Maria would have most likely started slut life in her teenage years as a copium for her mental deficiencies. So why Rosa didn't thought to teach her already best practices and techniques?
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>>47312770
>>47313088
>>47313222
K1 get off the computer
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>Azario Lopez: Would you ever consider writing just a romance story, without horror or mystery elements?
>Ryukishi07: I would like to create a story not related to horror or mystery, just a regular romance novel. However, if I release something like that, people might expect it to turn dark, given my previous works. They may even get upset with me when the credits roll and no one dies.
Ryukishi wants to write sol romance VN
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>>47314039
He should know his place and keep writing more murder mysteries
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>>47314039
it's his own fucking fault for always writing shit like that, he can't even guest write something without making it turn dark so of course everyone's gonna expect the guy who always makes everything go dark is once again going to make the story go dark
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The tables have flipped Nii-Nii!
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Lovers through time...
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>>47311190
cute femboy miyao.........................
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>>47314302
yasubros...
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>>47314039
It's finally their turn
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thinking about this old man again...
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>>47314302
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>>47314402
Mion love and appreciation
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>>47314391
Cuteeeeee
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New Mei stuff:
Swimsuit Rena:
https://files.catbox.moe/3u3o6e.txt
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>>47314535
I'm pretty sure her breasts aren't supposed to be this big, though.
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>>47314549
the completel lack of sunset lighting on her is bugging me
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>>47314549
https://files.catbox.moe/3b753i.txt
They also added a new event file, but I'm pretty sure this is just a re-run of one of the earliest events.
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>>47314556
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Rika can catch bullets.
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>>47314500
Every day, until I die.
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ange deserves rape
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>>47315355
By me
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>>47315436
Dont cry, Ange
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>>47303174
that's actually how those types of phones worked; people could just join, assuming they were connected to the same line
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>>47310763
roll
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>>47316187
Brave... POWERFUL...
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>>47316205
>>47316187
Kill yourself
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>>47316235
You're valid
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>>47316245
Kill yourself sperg
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>>47316252
Who?
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>w-w-who
Stuttering bitch
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>>47316280
What are you, some kind of sperg?
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>>47316280
Mariaxisters... our response?
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>>47316187
The Ciconia reader phenotype
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>>47316280
Why are you stuttering? Are you upset or something?
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>>47314413
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>>47314889
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>>47314889
let's all love Mion!
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>>47316675
There's lots to love!
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>>47314039
As many people said before and after this post, Hackysi07 should retire from writing When They Cry and give it to another, more competent writer.
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Keiichi sex
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>>47316819
ok faggot
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>>47316819
Yes
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>>47317605
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>>47314556
Apparently from the new update they added new content after the original epilogue. It seems to be labelled "A1" there.
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>>47314549
It feels like they got some new artist for these recent cards that really can't draw small breasts on the non-loli characters.

Miyuki in the story often laments about her small breasts and envies the other girls, even Rena, but in the newest art it looks like they're so big they're about to slip out from her shirt.
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i wish rika would spit in my mouth i want to drink her saliva
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>>47314039
do this he had no idea how much money i would pay for a rika dating sim visual novel
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>>47318849
me but with both rika and rena in the back of my truck.
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Uuu Uu... Erika-san...What is "used goods"?
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I want a used goods gf
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>>47319024
George said this
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>>47319260
imagine just giving her a little push
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>>47319322
She wouldve got up and pwnd you
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>>47314549
>>47314535
hands are hard to draw
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Sameshit post [-]
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>>47320417
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behold, soul...
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>>47320716
I'm lacing all that with a lethal dose of codine so I never have to heard that stupid "nipaah~" she does ever again.
People act as if it's cute, but in reality it's just a slightly more verbal "Uuuu - Uuu!", don't you dare pretend otherwise.
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>>47320735
i find uu-uu cute too, sue me
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>>47319024
Just date Erika anon
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>>47320675
For a moment I thought it was a hamburger with arms.
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>>47319260
shes so beautiful imagine passionately making love to her on the shrine overlook
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>>47320514
[+]
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>>47322621
[- Duracell +]
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I knew a girl like rika. Only difference was she used to wear green day shirts a lot and did double braids sometimes. Also she doesn't drink at all. She was always kind of distant and didn't like talking on the phone much. She won't talk to me anymore after I got jealous of her talking to another guy at a party and drove home shitfaced. I don't know why I did that. I think she's ace or something in the first place. She's 19 and I'm 23.
I wonder if she would have liked these visual novels.
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>>47322776
>She was 15 and I'm 23

Fixed it for u
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>>47322776
>I knew a girl like rika
you wish because reality can't withstand Rika
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>>47322878
Nope
>>47322943
She was like her superficially at least
>short
>nip
>stands around alone a lot
>looks out into space
>enjoys hugs
>mostly reserved
though she did have an actual chest (probably a small B cup)
I miss her. I don't have a lot of close friends. She was one of them.
Sorry, Claudia.
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>she sees your dick
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>>47322776
rikafags are such a strange kind of breed
they are either complete normalfags or utterly fucked up psychos
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>>47322975
>Asian Girl called Claudia,
>Likes hugs, mostly reserved,
>Nip, short and small breast size

Ok
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Mion my dick.
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>>47323329
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>>47313222
Supergenius Jayden would stop you from commiting any such acts
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>>47311190
I love Ciconia (so far), there's just not nearly enough good art to sustain posting
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>>47323468
undeniable proof that kanon (female) is cuter than shannon
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>>47323478
This "na" surely looks like a bow of a ship.
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>>47316187
undeniable proof that kanon (male) is uglier than shannon (also male)
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>>47316316
I hate you that's so mean
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>>47323140
This is not a rikafag, slanderingfag
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sex with rena
sex with mion
sex with sakoto
sex with rika
sex with shion
sex with chie
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sex with meow
sex with chloe
sex with gunhild
sex with koshka
sex with lilja
sex with aysha
sex with naima
sex with naomi
sex with rukhi
sex with noor
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>>47323607
What is she giving me that look, what does it mean
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Sex with Rosa.
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>>47323805
It would be very sloppy
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What present should we give Battler for his birthday?
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>>47321796
it's not ange, anon
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>>47323955
>MAMA I GOT THE AMBOOLANCE PUZZLE WRONG
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>>47323904
BATTLER NO, THAT'S YOUR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER!
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>>47323809
She ravaged Battler till he broke.
He didn't end up crippled when he tried to swim from the island. He was crippled from 48 hour non-stop hardcore sex with Rosa.
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How many kids will they have in the future?
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on
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>>47324351
zero (0)
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Battler will bear six beautiful children for Sayo.
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Post images of great power
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FLAT CHEST

FLAT CHEST

SAYO'S FLAT CHEST!
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>>47322975
>has a chest
was intrigued until you mentioned she has boobs, huge turn off
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>>47323140
am i a normalfag or psycho for wanting to passionately kiss and make love to my beloved rika-chan?
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I felt cheated a bit that Beato and Lion only had like 1 line of dialogue in 8
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>>47325083
gem do you know if they made something like this for gta 4?
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>>47324726
Normalfag image
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>>47310763
better version
https://twitter.com/p3at0/status/1812891594908901684
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>>47324351
S(he) will never have a womb anon
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>>47325484
Lion does have it though
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>>47325527
He'll surely make a wonderful mother someday.
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>>47325633
>Lion
>he
Are you a tranny, a woman, or simply a retard?
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>>47325641
I'm a comedian with an mpreg fetish.
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Even when they're never thrown off a cliff and injured, 'Perfect' Timeline Lion is still gender-ambiguous with a self-admitted complex over it. What could this mean? Why would a lion that's never been injured and surgically fixed still be weird about their gender? But also seemingly no mental issues or delusions or whatever like yasu

I didn't really get it, but 7 didn't seem to be a real fragment anyways, so I'm not sure. But I don't think it made things up. Perhaps this is meaningless to think about.
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>>47325669
>Why would a lion that's never been injured and surgically fixed still be weird about their gender?
Girl was strictly raised by a very conservative man and had a masculine role of heir forced onto her by him.
It's not that hard
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>>47325703
That's confusing too. So the family's still extremely sexist but not sexist enough to reject a girl as the next heir? Why doesn't anyone call Lion son/daughter/brother etc? Why does Lion still conceal it? Maybe just quirks of the fragment or meant to be parallel commentary on claire but it's still bizarre.
I might have misunderstood Bern - this wasn't an ideal fragment, just one where Lion didn't die just yet, and it's still not a great life for them to be honest.
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which is the hottest milf and why is it asumu
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>>47325723
Anon, she's KINZO's and BEATRICE's child. Of course he would step over his principles for her
>Why doesn't anyone call Lion son/daughter/brother etc
This all was left specially ambiguous
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>>47325547
Shitokorat
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>>47325751
Why was it left ambiguous at all. It doesn't add anything unless it's a big clue for shkannon I guess. It just adds some weird layer of gay.
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>>47325790
Being ambiguous = being deep, or something in r07's eyes
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>>47325800
That feels too cheap, I'm not sure I can accept it.
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good morning ~~ thank you for looking directly at rika chama's buttcrack ~ nipahh ~
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>>47307727
>posted within one minute
Newfag-kun...
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>>47325953
fathom the sweet aroma
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>>47326077
Smells like shit
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>>47326238
if i shoved my nose up in there and smelt any hint of gas or shit i would feel lucky and honored to have inhaled her inside stink.
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Ban rikafags off this website
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>>47326278
That behavior is quite literally apart of this websites identity, maybe you should go back to your instagram reels.
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>>47310763
>>47325777
Shion lost Rat lost Satoko and Keiichi won
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>>47326283
>huffing shit is /jp/ culture
Die scatfag
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>>47325838
>>47325838
It's ambigious because Lion's gender wasn meant to keep you guessing. He's said himself there is no clear cut answer, why would people still be debating it otherwise
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>>47325723
>So the family's still extremely sexist but not sexist enough to reject a girl as the next heir?
>Why doesn't anyone call Lion son/daughter/brother etc? Why does Lion still conceal it?
you just answered your own questions with your questions there
they're not alright with lion being the next heir, that's why they just treat her as one of the kids and continue to bicker amongst themselves whilst trying to ignore the obvious fact they ain't getting SHIT
as for the ambiguity, the 'female lion' answer makes far more sense with that situation just because of said sexism: a girl in a masculine role being treated like some kid and not the heir apparent isn't unlikely to end up feeling a little inadequate, and end up compensating by acting as much like a boy as possible to the point of practically avoiding mentioning what's between her legs - meanwhile all the 'male lion' answer has is "he feels bad because everyone thinks he looks like a girl so he plays along with it despite hating it lmao"
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>>47326604
>degeneracy is /jp/ culture
Hard to believe, i know.
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>>47326833
You're trying too hard to fit in fucking newfag
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>>47321796
how fat are you lol
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>>47327170
you're too fucking projecting
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>>47328437
Gemson
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>>47325790
It's left ambiguous because Yasu's sex is ambiguous.
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>>47326271
>taste is literal shit
>likes Rika
What does this mean?
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>channel is called beatrice to golden witch
>has never played the games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26UuUnwI9c
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>>47328994
>Trixie the Golden Witch
>is a faggot
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>>47325669
I took it to mean that Yasu couldn't imagine what it would be like to be an actual man. Or it was done to keep things ambiguous for the audience. Or Yasu somehow knew she lost her gonads but not which sex she was before that.
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>>47325800
pretty much
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>>47328994
How does someone base their identity on some piece of media they haven't even experienced?
It's not just giving your opinion on something you haven't played/read etc. It's changing your name or even personality.

Shit just baffles me.
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>>47326807
>they're not alright with lion being the next heir, that's why they just treat her as one of the kids and continue to bicker amongst themselves whilst trying to ignore the obvious fact they ain't getting SHIT
I'm leaning on L Girl theory, but this can't really be used as an explanation...the family didn't seem to be happy with ANYONE being the heir regardless of sex. They always die or kill each other.
Why did Kinzo even do the epitaph at the last minute in Ep7 timeline and fuck Lion, his true heir, over? Something's fishy here.

>>47329035
>I took it to mean that Yasu couldn't imagine what it would be like to be an actual man.
There is kanon, who's also not very masculine, so that makes some sense.
>Or it was done to keep things ambiguous for the audience.
This is the question for me. What does yasu possibly being a boy mean to the audience already by the end of 7?
>Or Yasu somehow knew she lost her gonads but not which sex she was before that.
Yasu seems to believe she's a woman, as she expects to grow up with breasts and be able to have children.

>>47326800
>He's said himself there is no clear cut answer
But why?

Beatrice's cat box existed to test the mettle of those who could open it - Battler. Cat boxes never exist for no reason. So there must be an answer here to test me too.
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>>47329136

Witchery seems exclusive to females. Eva, Maria, Natushi, Ange, Ikoku, Rosa, all have some kind of witch powers. Meanwhile Rudolf, Hideyoshi, George, Kinzo, and Battler all have none or struggle with it. Even Kanon struggles, while Shannon doesn't. It seems to be very sex based. Yasu seems to have been the most magical of all so it makes the most sense for her to be female.

Which makes me all the more confused as to why this was concealed at all. It's the obvious assumption that she's a girl with all the evidence. So why conceal it or throw in misdirections unless the truth is the opposite of expectations? Boys can be witches too? I'm not sure I buy it.
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>>47329136
there's a stark difference between 'plotting against each other because they think kinzo's dead and there's gold at the end of the rainbow' and 'grumbling every now and then about their still alive dad's pick in successor being some young girl that he pulled out his ass one day', one of the key things being that everyone recognises lion as their father's firm pick in successor even if they're not entirely content with it, versus krauss who very clearly was NOT who kinzo wanted to pass his shit down to but had no other choice because nobody in the whole damn family was worthy to him, so everyone else could just push the idea aside in their head and see it as a battle for the successorship that no one truly had yet, and krauss had something to dangle over their heads to try and distract from all the other problems he was having
but clearly there was SOME discontent in lion's successorship as well, since that's like the ONE reason that makes sense for kyrie to randomly decide to get her murder on other than just 'she felt like it lol'
>Why did Kinzo even do the epitaph at the last minute in Ep7 timeline
the answer is he didn't, it doesn't exist in lion's world
>"I don't know much about this epitaph. It doesn't exist in my world."
>"Probably not. In your world, there's already a clear successor: you. But not in this world."
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>>47329296
>>"Probably not. In your world, there's already a clear successor: you. But not in this world."
I guess I'll have to skim it over again, but didn't Kinzo introduce the epitaph again at the last minute? Not at the time of the funeral, but in Lion's future.
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>>47329260
>Even Kanon struggles, while Shannon doesn't.
Except when he doesn't. He thinks Shannon's a retard for believing in things but he's clearly the one who dresses up as Beatrice for Maria in ep2, while Shannon is busy being a dipshit and serving tea poorly.
>Boys can be witches too?
Lambda literally says exactly that in the little short story that was supposed to prevent the culprit from being retconned later (even though it's a retcon itself, since Beatrice was never shown to be below or beholden to Lambda before ep3).

>>47329136
>Yasu seems to believe she's a woman, as she expects to grow up with breasts and be able to have children.
And then she finds out about her "wound" and starts making up characters like Kanon and Lion.
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>>47329387
>And then she finds out about her "wound" and starts making up characters like Kanon
except she made up kanon BEFORE any of that shit came up, the idea of 'living as a boy' came from her lack of growth making her feel inadequate as a woman, long before the classic ugly nanjo panel in page 42 of confession of the golden witch 1
as far as she knew at the time, she was just a real late bloomer with a few weird things going on she couldn't understand
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>>47329260
>make up a rule based on assumptions and biases
>act confused by the story later
maybe ryukishi was trying to say something with yasu
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>>47329423
Okay, so,
Yasu Timeline: Cliff Accident, Sexual Issues = Gender Oddities
Lion Timeline: No Cliff Accident, Family Obligations = Gender Oddities

So either way, "Yasu" always ends up with some sort of gender shit. Which is what I thought was weird in the first place. No matter what happens there's still something wrong with them. Isn't that weird? What did he mean by this
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>>47329460
my presumption? going off of ciconia and miyao, r07 REALLY wanted to write about an ambiguous character with gender confusion, but couldn't make it properly work in umineko without this really weird oddity where somehow the character could comee from two entirely different circumstances and end up with similar problems despite it seeming completely circumstantial in the first case and entirely far too convoluted to make sense for the 'ambiguous' part in the second, an issue mostly due to how the story was written requiring this oddity to occur - probably one of the reasons why miyao's issues are immediately apparent in the first phase with the story focusing around it so he can't fuck it up again bar a massive brain fart
i would not be surprised if really ryukishi's just having issues not fucking it up again with miyao and THAT'S what's taking him so long, not *insert current global conflict here*
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>>47329518
Hm, so, maybe Yasu's issues can't all be blamed on the injuries as Nanjo assumed, that they're always going to be a little different than everyone else. That's a little depressing but maybe makes sense. I think this is explored well with how the story is told itself, now that I think about it, the nature of identity issues being like alternate mystery fragments in the cat box of your own head. It had to be told in an ambiguous way, since it sometimes is in reality. Miyao seems like a natural extension of this concept made explicit early on.
Did r07 ever make different excuses for the Ciconia delay? It being really just Miyao would be hilarious. Maybe he's been to too many western conventions.
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>>47329460
Maybe Lion is just part of Yasu's imagination.
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>>47329567
It seems pretty intentionally so, "What if I got to grow up as a member of the family?" yet still come to the conclusion that it's a doomed timeline due to her fatalism. But Will tries to find a better outcome for her anyways, which we don't get to see (episode 8 doesnt count). Maybe r07 hasn't figured out what a perfect world for Yasu could look like. Even Saku was a fairy tale. And I still can't figure out what the sex is supposed to be.
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Okay so umineko about Yasu gender or what?
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>>47329612
It's not, retards just have nothing better to do
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>>47326604
We all know that Rika is nice and clean however. Everyone loves being around her, so it's obvious she's got a sweet soapy aroma. Maybe tasting a little sour like strawberry.

We all know who the real stinky one is, the retard that can't tell cauliflower from broccoli, the one who probably spends months not bathing cause discipline is hard! (like homework)
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>>47329764
NO!!!!!!!
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>>47329764
Why would Rudolf do this?
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>>47329732
Smells like cheese
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>>47329764
Rudolf would totally do this
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>>47329764
Rudolf YES
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>>47329732
>Satoko hate out of nowhere
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>>47329008
Just like Beatrice
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>>47330057
We know Ryu
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>>47329547
>Did r07 ever make different excuses for the Ciconia delay?

He has shifted through a few, actually.

The first consistent one was Covid, from the whole "wrote about Godzilla and Godzilla actually appeared" comparison was usually made. Phase 1 had a prophecy about a medical 8ms considered a miracle cure going out of control, spreading among people, and having collateral affect of reducing IQ (to the point of creating zombies). I could see him not wanting to go forward with that plot point at the time when it'd feel like a blatant anti-vaccine conspiracy.

The second consistent one was the Ukraine war. December last year he also mentioned Israel, but Ukraine has been consistently brought up by itself even afterwards.

Aside from those, he once said that he had to focus on external "jobs" that bring money, while Ciconia was more of a passion project, which is why it was on the sidelines for now - which feels like the closest to the truth.

Then there's the most recent statement about him still figuring out if he will continue the story going forward or switch point of view to the other faction and retell Phase 1's events. To be fair to this one though, he did once say, alongside the war excuse, that although he wouldn't change Ciconia's events he could change how they'd be presented. So, it's not a new excuse completely out of nowhere.
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>>47330057
Makes sense BT
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>>47330078
Kill ryukishi
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>>47330090
Is that an order or a suggestion?
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>>47330096
Yes
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>>47330078

Him portraying the other side feels like something he'd naturally do, like it would've happened in a future release eventually anyways, so it doesn't really feel like a delay excuse. Rather it may be signs he's trying to push himself to write something, even if it's earlier than he would've wanted.

The Passion Project feels like the most truthful in this cat box of ciconia delay. It wasn't meant to be written like other WTCs so he can just put in whatever he feels like without compromise to comiket schedules or reader reactions, which garners frustration from fans when he voices hesitation at current events etc - but that is another point to the Passion theory. if he does feel conflicted at writing about war due to Ukraine despite fan outcry, how is that not concerning personal passions?

Another option is "I wrote it years ago and got kind of bored with it and my inner feelings changed too much" which is also understandable, that's what happens to many creative ideas. It's difficult to force yourself to write against your will on some old fragment that you don't relate with anymore.

or it's because miyao's gay
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>>47302518
He did the right choice
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Somebody make Ange op
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>>47330197
she's already overpowered
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>>47330216
Powered by chicken wings
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>>47330057
Its hilarious that this got deleted.
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>>47329983
FUCKING BLEED.
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>Ban rikafags off this website
keep them because they filter the redditrannies like >>47326278 that seethe when they lust after her
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>>47329008
Just like sperg
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>>47329983
FUCKING LIVE.
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>>47329983
>>47331293
Someone explain this cancer
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>>47332095
How is telling someone to live or die cancer you mumbling retard?
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>>47302463
rika sex.
https://vocaroo.com/17RQYPqNYpA2
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>>47302611



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