Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.07th Expansion archive:1drv.ms/u/s!Apo9jt_5n1kcbruVfFQLmtYesrY?e=q2ARE6Password: 07Old archive backup at:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:311bb86e9f983a9393cca7d2190233c5b86a872c&dn=07th%20Expansion%20archive&http://trhttp://=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce07th Links:pastebin.com/XjcX45p6Umineko colored truths script:greasyfork.org/en/scripts/418818-4chan-umineko-colored-truths/codePrevious thread: >>47405382
piss
>>47442417The burger girls
>>47442526I didn't order a Double Big Mac
>>47442552
Anyone below me who mentions or posts Rika or Satoko has a small penis.
I love Satoko and I have a micro-penis
I love Rika and I have a fake penis
I love Satoko and I have a macro-penis
I love Rika and I have an imaginary penis
>>47442728
Breed her and let me watch
don't you start with that shit
>>47442890Her face is begging for impregnation
Why couldn't Satoko just study?
>>47442975>WAAAAAA NII-NII DO MY MATH HOMEWORK AND EXTRA CREDIT
>>47442920xth for sex with old men
where's the new thing
>>47443388Silent Hill F? cancelled
So what happened today?
>>47442890Built for big /07th/ poster pecker.
>>47443745>Big>/07/th poster peckeranon...
>>47443735i brushed my teeth
beato paizuri
>>474437745 inchs is big4 is averageanything under 3 inch's is small.
>>47443811>5 inchs is big>4 is averageOn what planet?
>>47443774I'm literally 8 inches faggot.I will impregnate Frederika in front of cuckanon and you cannot stop me.
>>47443927>Maria doesn't have fetal alcoholic syndrome facenot canon
>>47443933
>>47443921Like I'd believe an anon here has a fat cock that big, post proof of this cock that will flood Bernkastels womb with it's thick potent sperm or silence
>>47443991Nigga it's a blue board I ain't posting my pecker here.
>>47443860Earth. Don't let porn rot your brain and make you think 4 inch's is small
>>47444034ask any girl irl if 4 inches is average and they will laugh at you, i assure you
>>47444031You could always take a picture of your so called meaty fat cock over an image of Bernkastel and upload it on catbox and post it here or upload it over on the /h/ thread >>>/h/8075889But don't worry i won't judge you too hard for trying to back out i already assumed you had a small dick anyway anon
>>47444046comteniark svp
>>47444045most girls have never seen a penis in real life and porn ruins their expectation of sex, if you ask a girl who's never had sex before and isn't a whore she won't laugh or belittle anything girls really don't care about penis sizes anyway
>>47444073>girls really don't care about penis sizes anywayHoly cope
>>47444086Why would a girl care about the size of your penis if she loves you? and the size of it doesn't even matter when it comes to the act of love and procreating so yeah girls don't care about that anon
>>47444073funniest shit I've read all week
>>47444034fathom the aroma
Favorite girlYour size
Only proles, nigs, and whores obsess over pp length now shut up
>no cock postedfucking lame.
>>47444621slut
Peckercord is leaking again
>Pecker is leaking againwhere?
>>47445120Too late natsuhi
>>47444353As expected of a the BWC girls
How do you guys manage to talk about women and still sound gay
Everyone except you is a little girl, so it checks out.
>>47444621tanguy svp
>>47445444>>47444051Marge?
>>47445216Yasubros...
This thread is so horny it's odd... are we healing?
>>47445457She is a member of the Südtiroler Volkspartei
>>47445610Horny for dicks, to be specific.
>>47445663what makes umifags so gay?
I prefer this to rat/discord screenshot posting
>>47445667Dicks are not gay. Otherwise all men would be gay for touching their dicks daily
>>47445688I also dislike Rika posting.
>>47445688>I prefer this shit to rat shit/toilet screenshot posting
>>47445747>blasterfight posting
>>47445899Only the highest quality of posts from me.
Not many people know, but his name zero stands for the number of good posts he made
>>47445899Blasterfight is a screenshot?
Not many people know, but his name zero stands for the number of bad posts he made
>>47445718>>47445722What the fuck is this?
>>47446032Rodent beauty
>>47446032It's going to spill!
>>47446331I'm going to spill inside her!
>>47446082This one too, nigger mods
>>47446365She knows a thing or two about condensed yellowed milk
>>47443948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-p2Zyjb74
Not single shitoko post in this thread. Only small portion of rika mockery. This thing is the ultimate obsessed
>>47446597Sometimes I wish amine didn't fail
can we go back to horny posting again?
>>47446709Sure thing, just post your cock first
I feel bad about Ryukishi dropping Ciconia/WTC.
>>47446709let's be honest here anon, it's not hornyposting it's a guy fishing for dick pics under the guise of hornyposting
>>47442890PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT
>>47442890>>47446830Love it when stronger men fuck my wife
>>47446837Your wife is a total whore anon, it's your fault for not making her a mother already but that'll change soon don't worry
>>47446855I will make her a mother?
>>47446860>I will make her a mother?lolToo late for you to do something like that, but she'll be a mother to a healthy strong baby I'll make sure of that and the best part is you don't even have to do anything!
This place is such a fucking shithole
>>47447140Who do we blame for this?
>>47447149Unironically?1. Lack of new content 2. Discord grannies obsessed with raiding this place
>>47447149Ryukishi
>>47447159Fuck.
>>47447159fucking grannies...
>>47447172Imagine the Paizuri...
Why am i always so fucking horny?
>>47447204because you have nothing else to live for
>>47447211I live for her (tits)
>>47447236that's a rather shallow reason to live, isn't it?
>>47447236Based, I'm not dying until I have at least once buried my face in her boobs
>>47447247Those don't look shallow to me
>>47447259can you be certain?
>>47446008Original stage play written by r07Story is about three men in locked rooms and death game happening. It has multiple endings which will depend on audience choices
>>47447266If I inspect them very closely
>>47447272It is HARD to choose between them
>>47447291you know what else is hard
>>47447247Getting to feel Shannons soft bouncy breasts is all I need to continue to struggle on no matter how shallow or firm it is>>47447258Imagine of soft and warm they'd feel with your head sandwiched inbetween them...
>>47447288Somebody post it.
>>47447279so the august 2nd reveal was ANOTHER stage play? starting to wonder if ryukishi would rather be a playwright than a VN authorand what happened to the 'never done before' thing? as far as i remember dude's done tons of stage plays, throw in an audience choice and that's enough to act like it's something entirely new? we're starting to reach the level of kojima and his attempts to make movies into games here
>>47447303>if ryukishi would rather be a playwright than a VN authorthe first higurashi thing he wrote was a play
>>47447279Somebody kill this faggot already
>>47447299
>>47447288schrodinger's tits, the only way you're figuring out if they're real (shannon) or fake (yasu) is by popping those buttons open
I assume the nannies are away
reg
>>47447303All previous stage plays were adaptations of his VN works. This one has original scenario, so that's what he meant by something he never done before probably.
distracted
I am trying to find one good Shannon doujinshi, have this Lion while I'm searching https://nhentai.net/g/101560/
>>47447499>>47447513Thanks for these doujin that Shannon one looks really great!
Wtf is wrong with shitokorat
Why
The official art isn't any less hornier
>>47447591and as a nice bonus you can actually post them on a blue board too
>>47447591wow
>>47447591if only we had proper versions of all of it without all the watermarks...
OK, janny, I will stop posting porn, but I will NOT stop posting the one yet many
>>47447591Instead of the anime he should've just made a hentai OVA
uuuh
>>47447660female lion erotic
>>47447672No need to specify
>>47447279My expectations were low but he still disappointed me.
>>47447303Don't tell me you were expecting anything different or bigger? Are we pretending to be surprised today after rumours a few years back that R07 had privately vowed to stop writing great VNs?
Pretty interesting stuff in Higurashi Oni this latest chapter.
>>47447686I had no expectations and still got disappointed, good job ryukishi
>>47447680i do actually, ignoring the obvious "i'm straight" thing those smug levels are only lethally sexy when coming from a woman
>>47447691
>>47447697
>>47447672>female
>>47447690I've not heard this rumor. Is it supposedly in response to Ciconia not selling well?
>>47447691>>47447697>>47447699I don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but even today's hornyposting is more interesting than Higurashi Oni.
>>47443811The average is around 14cm/5.5in, more or less.
>>47447736>ever reading nu-gurashi
I am disappointed only one Ange was posted
>>47447279so it's gerokasu MEN editionsasuga hackishi
>>47447736no one cares about Oni. The premise doesn't seem interesting and it launched at the worst possible time when there were several other Higu manga in progress
>>47447728Partly, yes. You could factor in the domestic backlash to the end of Umineko. The rest of it is based on simple observation of what he's been up to in recent years and what he's avoided. All of these are mostly small, unambitious, and mostly insignificant projects that keep him just above the surface of cultural relevance.
>>47447793Neither the shitty manga for the shitty anime Gou and Sotsu. What gives?
>>47447793That's exactly what I said, so I'm glad you agree with me. The only thing I'd add is that the other new Higurashi manga are equally miserable.
>>47447807So his choice was dead then.
>>47447766i dunno about the porn posters, but i tend to avoid posting long28 ange thanks to certain people who always act up whenever it gets posted
I see, so it was a nothingburger. Guess I'll return in a year or so then.
>>47447818Thank you for tell us the beginning of Hackysi07 demise.
>>47447831That edit ruined this long28 ange image for me
>>47447839Guess we wait until we all die as old retards at this point, right anon?
I hate that most of his art is off-model
>>47447880 meant for >>47447862
>>47447880made this on-model one particularly delicious though
>>47447694Hnng
>>47447807What a shame. Phase 1 started off a bit weak but by the end it had completely won me over. It was clear that he still was capable of writing the stuff that made me enjoy Higurashi and Umineko so much. If he has given up on writing high profile stuff just because Twilight of the Golden Witch received a lot of backlash not that I blame anyone for having a negative reaction to it then that sucks. I hope he does actually return to Ciconia one day. It hurt to read that unlike the previous WTC entries he had properly planned out the entirety of the story and that it would be just four parts in total... only for real life to get in the way. With Phase 2 originally slated for like mid 2020 it would've long since been finished by now if it hadn't gotten derailed by whatever made him stop writing.
>>47448237
>A FUCKING IMPROV PLAYFeatherine and her consequences were a disaster for the 07th Expansion community.
>>47448776Not even Featherine agreeds with this shit.
wasn't there supposed to be something announced today? I haven't heard anything
>>47449137anon, i...>>47447279
>Anatagata wa Tojikomeraremashita>you are trappedwhy is the word for trapped so long
>>47449139ah, rip
>>47447279>Story is about three men in locked rooms and death game happening2024 and still doing this shit japanese "writers"?
>>47445718>>47445722Chances this ends up with a DVD/BD release?
>>47449147its just the conjugation, the verb itself is not long
>>47449198Unlikely due to the whole "immersive experience" deal.
>>47449198>>47449515It's the 80s movie version of Clue, but a stage play. Ryukishi does it again. I guess the only question would be if the audiences choose any ending but the most popular.
>>47449661There's a play called Sheer madness where the killer is decided by the audience, tons of plays also like that. R07 basically just hyped up improv
>>47449661This sounds awfully familiar to Silent Hill Ascension, and that shit was a laughable failure
>>47449753is it improv? I was assuming all the endings were written by Ryukishi and the audience just chooses which one they get to see.
>>47442417These fat pigs eats such bottom of the barrel, working-class slop and don't even wipe their faces.
>>47449891Eat your jew slop nipah
I tried to translate the premise of Ryukishi's new play, but this is the most I could understand.
>>47450001I thought Satoko was the dropout, not Rika.
>>47450047That's a college degree job buddy.Satoko is in the alley in the back.
>>47450029>prolapseL-lewd!
>>47450029>You are trapped.>Before they knew it, two were locked in a secret room. There was a PC, and they realized that there was another person in the same situation as them.The two check each other's situation. Moreover, all but a few of their memorieswere gone. There, they receive a call from a mysterious person who calls himself "Game Master.">The two are said to be participants in an "escape game." If you can escape safely, there will be a "big prize." There's no way there's anyone who wouldn't want it... It's a "prize" worth paying even 100 million. At first, both of them seemed to be in a good mood, typical of today's young people, and answered the observer's requests in a friendly manner.>In a friendly atmosphere, the host, who acts like a moderator, invites everyone to introduce themselves and have fun. Meanwhile, the first game starts. The two work together to solve the problem and get the answer, asking the viewers for help.>"Izumi Kaito">As soon as they heard that, their faces stiffened. The friendly atmosphere from just before disappeared... As they solve the mystery, they gradually come into contact with fragments of memories and forgotten memories that they don't want to touch. Dear onlookers, it's no fun just watching from the sidelines; you decide their fate. Will they be able to solve the mystery and escape safely? Or will it be a bad ending?>Now, choose... with a single finger.
>>47450153so it's literally gerokuso but with men. great job ryushitty, very new>>47450029>nothing happened
Really clicheBut if I were Ryukishi I'd do this. I'd make the best route for the sadists, hidden behind choosing terrible fates for everyone. Then the actors nut up and figure out a way through the all problems and scream at the audience they won't be puppets to theatre watching demons anymore. And rush the stage to fight Ryu himself for the right to decide their own fate.
>>47450062...eating some fries with Keiichi in their nice car.
>>47447690My expectation was an original or sequel movie to one of his works like Madoka Magica and Code Geass got.
>>47450891...is her final delusion as she passes out from an overdose (she's always had low impulse control. After dropping out it was sadly inevitable)
>>47450153>Now, choose... with a single finger.Here you go, Hackysi07.
>>47451454K1cum overdose... what a heavenly way to die...
>>47451525Why are you people such nasty homos
>>47451620Satoko is a girl, it's only normal to expect her to be delighted by her husband's love juices.
>>47451793wdym husband, she became a street whore
Big Pecker inside Ange
>>47451793>trap master>girlAnon...
ANGE RAPE
>>47451978bwc consumer
>>47447279>Ryukishi lost waifufags so he will try to bait fujos nowLMAO
>>47447691This is still going?
>>47451857If by street you mean the Maebara mansion, and by whore K1's personal cum receptacle, yes.
>>47451793>>47452020I've figured it out.You self insert as her don't you. I think you even said so yourself a long time ago.Nasty. You don't self insert as K1. You want to fuck K1.
>>47452004>lost waifufagsIsn't the gacha doing okay? For being a shitty auto battler
>>47452025Correct, zero is the one who self inserts as K1
>>47452025Arent you busy fucking girl of all shapes irl, Rikashitokodiscusionlover
Rika will be the MH in higurashi EX
>>47452025Sorry but IWABK1
>>47452090Your call outs are always on point friend.Yes I love little Rika, tall Rika, long leg JK Rika, big butt bus stop Rika. I fucking love them all.
>>47452117You will never be Keiichi. You do not have female friends, you are not Japanese, you were not born on April 13th, 1969, you never moved to Hinamizawa, and your parents are not Ichirou and Aiko Maebara, none of the club girls would ever do anything with you, your parents will put your real name (Anonymous) on your grave. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>47452117You will always be Keiichi. You have female friends, you are Japanese, you were born on April 13th, 1969, you just moved to Hinamizawa, and your parents are Ichirou and Aiko Maebara, all of the club girls would do everything with you, your parents will put your real name (前原 圭一) on your grave. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>47452281Ai sovl...
>>47452281>Enje's ghost coming out of the burgerSOVL overload
>>47442579Reminder
>>47452281Where's Rika's bucktooth and pink tail?
>>47452324>Enje's ghostLook closer, I think is Hanyuu
The collective IQ in this thread keeps decreasing with each post
lol
>>47452583>using rato as an excuse to hold satoko's handCute and canon!
>>47452818>Grabbing by the wrist>"Zomg they're holding hands!!11!"
>>47452822Yes.
>>47452583>K-Keiichi-san, I practiced over 9000 hours in Photoshop (Did you know that they want you to pay a subscription for all software in the future? It's dreadful. To be honest, I'm doing you all a favor.) to put this gun in my hands!
>>47452818lol
>>47453165gotta love amon art
>>47452933>the only thing that stopped K1 from holding satoko's hand was throwing a gun at la rataHigh SatoKei energy
>>47453208When the copes run dry all you can do is ask to die
Eternal Rika salvation victory
>>47453261God they're just so cute. I just want to hug both of them and never let go
Witch of ___
>>47453315witch of trashpileswitch of kenta-kunwitch of *********
https://twitter.com/Ninja_BeeP/status/1819739106668429644https://x.com/Ninja_BeeP/status/1819732051014332809Hm... Beatrice's Santa Claus in the stage version apparently was Kinzo rather than Genji. Bern's still was Rika's father (well, someone dressed like a Japanese priest like in the manga), although no Hanyuu cameo unlike in the manga.Apparently there's a screen breaking effect when Lambda thinks about her never having a Santa Claus of her own afterwards.
>>47453857
>>47453857of all the things to adapt, i wouldn't have thought they'd do the santa claus gag
>>4745386734 is a tragic villain. She never had a chance.
>>47453261When K1 doesn't hold her hand for more than 1 minute
>>47454452Mfw i look in the archive
>>47454452mfw i look at what went on in the /h/ thread
>>47442417
>>47454452>when you run sideways a little and she realizes she can't aim for shit
>>47454624I went in prepared for the worst, but it was just some twitterfag having a meltdown over people not liking his westroon fan art
>>47454727i mean it was only a mildly shocked face, something actually bad would probably get something more like this
>>47454726
>>47454777Accidentally replied to anon, but at least I got trips
>>47454780>Lionpost>777
>>47454704the third sister...
piraterika
>>47453869Well, the "Episode 4 Eve" is pretty much just the Episode 3 Tea Party. They really couldn't afford to skip anything otherwise it'd be way too short to be worth going to the theater to watch.
>>47453292>Play Higurashi for the first time>The game makes me like these two>They suddenly get creepy and start making my heart go doki doki and not in a good way>Ending.exeWhy did I fall for this bait I knew japanese would never let me enjoy some slice of life without some blackpill shoved in somewhere. I need to go erase my memory
>play
ENTER
>>47455879>i actually drew myself as a ugly old hag with purple hair and you as the strong gigachad goat, i bet you feel stupid now!Ryuu...
>>47455822Yes, playing a video game.
>>47455927It is a visual NOVEL
>>47455929*sound novel
>>47455929I always wonder what motivates this pedantry.
Schooling retards is a public duty
>>47455934/v//v/ caused it
>>47455929Go on, press that mouse button to get to your victory screen and somehow pretend that somehow this is different than all the other video games
>>47455822>>47455929>>47455938based, imagine "playing" a book with pictures.
>>47455879Me and my friends about to find out just how many holes Yasu has.
Movies are my favorite videogame, I love pressing the play button on my remote to win and reach the film credits.
>>47455932Does that mean we are only supposed to listen to it?
>>47455970Yes, without love it cannot be seen.
>>47455938The meaning of words comes from usage, and trying to contravene that an appeal to prior or formal definitions just demonstrates that those definitions are not fit for purpose anymore. Outside of an academic, philosophical, or legal context in which it is necessary that parties agree on upon clear definitions, it is just pedantry to mourn and nitpick the state of language and the practice schools no one. After all, it takes no intelligence to simply adjust the way you use a word in accordance with cultural fashions.
>>47455983*with an appeal
Descriptivist drivel above me.
>>47455988Not seeing any argument.
>>47455993Damn anon, you are going to suck my penis, right here and right now?
>>47455994Ironic. The principal virtue of prescriptivism, which I do not disupute, is that such standards ensure a frictionless formal discourse in which precision and clarity are possible due to agreed-upon norms. It is you who is a discursive descriptivist who retreats from sincere argument in favour of a discourse of empty performance ('suck my dick' 'school retards') in which the 'winner' is implied by mere social convention and not clarity of thought and argument.
The descriptive approach is just an excuse for being disingenuous and attach to your words whatever ambiguous semantics you can think of at any given time, just like you are being disingenuous when you pretend correcting your own mistakes somehow belongs to academia. The only argument descriptivists could ever come up with is an appeal to nature: "language changes", that is as strong of an argument as "rape happens" or "people get murdered".When you encounter a descriptivist the only reasonable approach is to argue with them by their own rules and interpret their words as whatever you want>>47456031Geez, I have a girlfriend anon, but if you really insist I'm down for a quickie.
man...
>>47456093Her gold was revoked
>>47456110but she isn't the golden witch?
>>47456115Shes a golden redditor
>>47456135based on?
>>47456140My dick
>>47456145Is it the dick that was just sucked from the anon from before?
>>47456145your dick is able to figure out what fictional characters use reddit? that's an impressive skill
>>47456087This is a strawman since I am not a descriptivist in any absolute sense. I did not say that 'correcting mistakes' belongs to academia but that the virtue of formal definitions is context-dependent, which is to say that prescriptive rules are a condition which arise organically in complex society rather than a goal in themselves. The comparison to an argument against policing rape and murder does not hold because preventing and punishing rape and murder has an appreciable effect on protecting people from harm while trying to enforce prescriptive rules in an entirely informal context helps no one and may actually make things worse by treating the rules which arise from clear and subtle discourse as the goal rather than clarity and subtlety itself. Native intelligence and complexity of thought will manifest regardless of rules followed or broken; pedantry over the rules themselves is like trying to make it rain by throwing water on the street.
>>47456031>>47456087>>47456178all me btw
God damb I come back to my post causing this massive butthurt. Is any board safe from mentally ill trannys
>>47456031>>47455983>it takes no intelligence to simply adjust the way you use a word>ensure a frictionless formal discourse in which precision and clarityWhen there is this form of discourse that is not only clear and precise, but it also take no intelligence to engage in it, and you point and it and say "this? you see this? yeah let's not do it", one is left to wonder what agenda there could be behind your recommendation.
>>47456253>>47456259You continue to hallucinate an 'agenda' behind my word, just as you previously assumed that because I am not a pedant, that means that I am a descriptivist. Again, it is ironic since these are precisely the practices which I presume you consider to be the malicious products of descriptivism: the assumption that people's words are representative primarily of a social mission rather than meaningful in themselves, the recourse to cliché and caricatures derived from bad faith interpretations.You draw a false equivalence. It is true that it takes no intelligence to change the way you use a word because of a cultural fashion, but this is not the same as making your use of language more complex, more precise, or clearer. Even idiots know not to use outdated slang, or can read the room on what words to use or not use in order to gain credit with a certain milieu. What I am saying is that more complex prescriptive rules (certainly more complex than the example in question) arise as an organic condition serving other needs, partly because they are a necessity for formal communication in a complex society and also because native intelligence will demand them in order to fully express itself. They appear, in other words, as necessary but not sufficient conditions for complex thought and communication. This is the reason for my rain analogy: making this condition into an end obfuscates real intelligence, misattributing the cause of clarity and precision in discourse to something inherent in the rules rather than in the society and individuals which required them.
>>47454777I hate Lion. I hate Lion so fucking much. Ass pinching cunt.
>>47456178>>47456371>to enforce prescriptive rules in an entirely informal context helps no oneKeeping language from becoming more ambiguous helps everyone.>Native intelligence and complexity of thought will manifest regardless of rules followed or brokenI'll get through the day regardless of if I have stage 4 cancer or not.>>47456371I guess I must have hallucinated the attempt to claim that the expression "read a novel" is not fit for purpose anymore.>misattributing the cause of clarity and precision in discourse to something inherent in the rules rather than in the society and individuals which required themI believe the rules, even in their arbitrarity, provide precision and clarity. From what I've observed the tendency of native English speakers to defend and support descriptivism and also oppose any attempts to being corrected have made the language less clear and precise in ways that other languages have not. A well known example of it that only English seems to have suffered from is the word bimonthly which now thanks to people getting it wrong and english dictionaries indulging them means both twice a month and once every two months. Just perfect, now the word is completely useless LOLThe same fate was suffered by biweekly and biannually of course.And who could forget about literally, which now, only in English, means figuratively. Unfortunately now there is no way to say literally anymore. Certainly a new way to communicate it will arise... Well for a while people on the internet typed LITERALLY in all caps to get around it but the people getting literally wrong eventually ruined that too. As long as the attitude regarding the English language remains the same I can easily predict what will be the fate of the words that will succeed it.
>>47456752I don't care. They're the most beautiful person in the world.
>they
>>47456797Sorry. HE, the man from 19 years ago.
>>47456093Pat pat.
>>47456797Your loss. The ambiguity only makes them hotter.
>>47456859Gaaaaaaaaay
>>47456797Respect Lion's perfered pronouns bigot
>>47454624Why are western artists always so mentally ill?
>>47456902~yeah <3
This is a lesbian relationship. You might not like it, but that's what it is.
>>47456915When will /jp/ stop bullying artists?
>>47456764Insisting on particular definitions and rules don't help everyone in all circumstances. They are there to help people primarily in two contexts, which I implied already, but I will repeat for the sake of clarity. These conditions are not mutually exclusive, of course. The first is in meeting the needs of complex social association, such as in trade, law, philosophy, academia. The second is in schooling not retards but the intelligent, who actually require a higher level of grammatical and semantic complexity to express themselves. However, the purpose here is to cultivate the native intelligence that already exists with systematic schooling, not to arbitrarily enforce distinctions and definitions.And yes, I do think that the insistence on a particular restrictive meaning for 'read' or 'play' implies that the contextual usage is not fit for purpose, or else it would not need to be artificially enforced. I have no agenda here; I just find it pedantic and trivial. Many words become useless and fall out of fashion or simply gain extra nuance. This is actually the case for 'literally' since anyone of intelligence can tell when it's being used as an intensifier rather than according to its original meaning, just as anyone of intelligence can tell when 'jealousy' is being used in its older meaning of possessive and paranoid i.e. a jealous lover, rather than to mean 'envy' as has been the fashion in more recent history. It does not necessarily strip the words of these meanings when they are employed differently. Sometimes this is inescapable; a word like 'deceptively' can mean two entirely opposite things dependent on context. Likewise, there is no reason to believe that because people use play in reference to visual novels, it renders them incapable of understanding the word in any context besides visual novels. Visual novels are themselves not categorically the same as novels or they would be referred to as such customarily, sold alongside books and ebooks, etc. It does not reduce ambiguity to arbitrarily assign them to the same category as books or games and insist on their being treated as one or the another; on the contrary, it simplifies and make opaque the fine distinctions between books, visual novels, and video games. People who use 'play' are not mistaking books for video games but following along with the conventions of a relatively young artistic form. There is no epidemic of zoomers talking about 'playing a book' due to the pernicious influence of Fate/stay night becoming available on Steam. One is clearer and more precise when these fine differences are acknowledged, not when they are flattened over by insisting on a restrictive usage where there is not even a loss of meaning nor understanding.
Idc abt all that shit you guys are saying but ange is the best
>>47454704>>47455091R07 considered giving Shion twintails, but dropped the idea. Although I think they fit Mion better anyway.
>>47457072>The second is in schooling not retards but the intelligentLanguage is democratic, you can't simply not correct the retards, unless you believe you can enforce two different languages for the intelligent and the retards.>This is actually the case for 'literally' since anyone of intelligence can tell when it's being used as an intensifier rather than according to its original meaningAlways? It's impossible to use it by its original meaning anymore because the word's definition is both itself and it's opposite, so much for clarity. >It does not reduce ambiguity to arbitrarily assign them to the same category as books or games and insist on their being treated as one or the anotherI think what we disagree on is that I don't find the distinction arbitrary. Visual novels are digital CYOA picture books with a soundtrack, when have you ever heard of someone "playing" a CYOA book?>There is no epidemic of zoomers talking about 'playing a book' due to the pernicious influence of Fate/stay night becoming available on Steam.What about an epidemic of people calling visual novels "video games' because you supposedly "play" them?
>>47456987>Yasu was born a man>Asumu's child was actually a girlIt's not gay in the Golden Land.
>>47457193The general population including retards is where the first condition comes in. I don't care how people talk in their off hours, but educating people to a standard where they have to conduct certain public affairs in a common formal language is necessary for any functional civilisation.With context it's extremely rare to mistake a use of literally as an intensifier precisely because they will most often be using it to describe something figurative. When someone says 'I was literally sweating bullets!' no one thinks that they are using the word with its older meaning. However, when someone says 'this passage was translated literally' you cannot fail to understand it in the original meaning of 'by the letter'. Conversely, 'the pool was deceptively shallow' could mean that it was shallower than it looked or that it was not as shallow as it looked, and requires substantially more context than most common uses of literally. It's just not very ambiguous most of the time.Visual novels are not digital CYOA picture books, and they are not video games either. This is exactly the reductive and opaque abstraction I'm talking about. You may as well say that musicals, operas, oratorios, and Singspiele are all the same, and some of those have far more in common with each other than a VN has with any printed book. Visual novels are visual novels. To conflate a form derived from Japanese PC adventure games with a form derived from American children's literature increases ambiguity, which is exactly what you claim to abhor. Introducing abstraction into a coherent category in order to fold them together, even when they have no genetic relationship, reduces fine distinctions and is exactly how you make language difficult to understand and unclear.There is no epidemic of people calling VNs video games unprompted. People call them visual novels. No one says 'Subahibi is my favourite video game', and I have never seen eroge/VN enthusiasts make a serious and comprehensive case for their being video games (because it would be stupid). It's entirely an issue that exists as a response to people using incidental game-related language in reference to VNs, which is not the same as making a positive case for VNs as video games. Effectively no one thinks VNs are video games in any systematic way, but that their audience shares some common vocabulary with video games is not very surprising since they are derived not from novels or CYOA books but from Japanese adventure games, and are sold alongside video games. The common name for so many of these works remains 'eroge' in Japanese. This of course does not imply that they are 'really games', only that it reflects their genetic relationship to and origin in game development. It is harmless.
>>47457366>Asumu's child was actually a girl?
>>47457629Kanon is a guy. My man is just vertically challenged.
>>47457752>>47457629>>47457366>>47456987>>47456922>>47456902>>47456907>>47456859>>47456823>>47456797>>47456788This poster here, wanted to add that I'm trans, not sure if that matters
>>47457007no point in trying to defend him anymore man, he's made it clear he hates people like you and i
Woah, you guys are the real deal
>>47457629Battler is Yasu, Yasu is Kanon and Shannon doesn't exist, what's so hard to understand?
>>47462198Battler is Battler, Kanon is the other Battler and Shannon is a new hire, clearly
>>47458793You're valid, sis, all SatoKei sisters are valid.
