https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Jj5Mpjgbgprevious>>48022442
>>48039776is this IVE?
>>48039740why'd that gremlin quit a 48 group for 19k views. i'm sure it haunts her in her sleep.
Tall idols have pure hearts
Tohkei.they're like the pure heart of idol
https://x.com/isihara27saki/status/1847828731198656890What's her problem?
>>48039910hot
Run-chan with Nemless.
>>48039740>MVs in the OP
Nemless assaulted by Candy.I'm sick of that fat westoid fag with an unkempt beard btw, stinks up almost every GPR show.
>>48039982lol do something about it then.or just seethe and sperg out on /alt/now if you'll excuse me I need to loudly and obnoxiously skype my br bros from the cafe
>>48040058>do somethingWhat? Wear a gas mask to the next show?Or stab him in the eye with a chopstick?
>>48040092take a candid picture of him. then print it out instax mini sized. tape it to a deodorant and the next time you see him drop the deodorant on the ground and say "hey you dropped this" and if he tries to deny it point to the picture.
good looking spork
I don't care about puddings past, I just want to see her happy.
>>48040358my condolences
Run-chan hates gay people
>>48040378my condolences
Idol
>>48040358>past>he hasn't seen the latest twitter video of her working the corners for 2k
Stop shaming sex workers
i respect sex workers, but i hate fraudsters.
>>48040723kinchan?
Run-chan is unstoppableAnd probably drunk
https://youtu.be/KCGyXVzI_OsReally dig the first tune they do on this one 最愛我儘. It's not liquid but it kinda sounds like Pendulum which is dope
>>48040358Just ask for a handy bro. It'll probably cost you less than 5 k yen
>>48040877nice catch dipshits
>>48040877Missed a great chance to molest
>>48040931those thighs just got a little less soft ;-;
>>48040886It's their best one so far.
Riri is so cutehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/vXrDLlZCoHY
She actually did it. Scary woman.>>48040899They are also drunk. Except for that grumpy fag in the front row. What's his deal?
doloz
Rare video of Hanako breaking character:https://files.catbox.moe/obbf72.mp4
wish there was some new comfy pachicos songs
>>48041368Anon those girls are sluts and fucking on the weekends
>turn it off anon
Found this while closing up my summer cottage. Wat do? Throw it back in?
>>48040067wtf? I never gave her permission to film me like that
>>48041325and looking extremely embarrassed and uncomfortable. I guess she really is that shy in real life.
>>48041492don't care the tunes are chill. they never claimed to be idols.https://youtu.be/yeyO4t47_AU
everyone who says they're not an idol is a talentless poser.
>>48041661>your whole persona is an over-the-top manga character and you have been doing it for so long that you have been completely absorbed by it and can't even remember anything elseif she eventually offs herself in a toilet stall somewhere long after her career has ended i wouldn't be surprised
>>48041806or an actual artist
>>48041860an actual artist has never had to clarify.
Towering.>>48041661That's kind of obvious. >>48041806My oshi says that.
cute therefore forgiven
legs
>>48041884they do when they exist in idol land. they said it from the beginning.>we're not idols>we're not hyperpop>those are just the labels that other people put on usthey're maid cafe whores who happen to make extremely good music. i have explored a lot of that genre and nobody else does it better imo. Milk is obviously the talent and Cider is just kind of along for the ride but everything under the pachicos name is top quality. Milk's solo stuff and collab stuff is good too but the stuff they do as a duo is still the best. It was like a wave that never crested.https://youtu.be/NDXWYx6KeY8
My god this sounds awful
>>48042090successfully filtered
Favorite alien fairy princess hobnobbing with her old boss.
https://youtu.be/adFyPyqlZqc
>>48035046>自撮り28日目She literally can't stop.
Ok…Revised definitive SPATIO ranking:1. Saki2. Aina3. Moka4. Ayaka
>>48042925something we can all agree on desu
>>48042925So unbelievably. Holy fuck, I feel bad for you.
We love SPATIO Ayaka here.
Today is a horrible day to follow Nemless on xitter
>>48040358I got a boner from reading a random review from her in 2ch.
very important informationthanks
R I R I
don't get mistaken by a tachinbo
>>48043544
>>48044000Too scared to show her soft belly?
Spooky
>>48044521multiple scars
>>48044521The middle one is legit so ugly lol. Not even cute ugly, just flatout hideou.
>over 14k girls have applied to be in Ena's new groupI think is a lie ain't no way that many girls want to be idols. Also if it's true over 14k girls then they surely have a good line of girls who can all sing and look cute right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYeJkALqkP4
All bots
>>48044572>leaves iLife>Gets a haircutEna looks cuter now than she did when she was in the group LOL
sweet yoloz
task have fun fell off way too fast
>>48044739>>48044892>>48044947I wonder how it must feel when you peaked at the age of 13 and will never reach those heights again but you keep on going.
>>48044968>when you peaked at the age of 13this is every woman ever in the history of all of humanity
>>48045140SASA
>>48039968Nerve and it's consequences have been a disaster for the idol world...
>>48041661Very much so, outside a live or buppan it's super different. Though yesterday it was a bit odd for her to be so timid on-stage. Usually not a problem. I'm thinking she didn't want to go out in the curry bread outfit is why. Yura had to wait a good while for her to come out.
>>48045736they want us to believe this girl isn't cute
>>48045736>trying to act like a toyoko girlThat decadence.I'd rather buy NANIMONO discs after they disband.
Young pudding, all those ojisan who used your body to refresh themselves...At least you have been smart to get away and try to start a new life. Finish your studies you dumb bitch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IRIgspGAHk
>>48045736Fine i'll cough up 2,000 Yen but this handy better be good
>>48044572O sent my army of twitter sex bots to apply for that group. Good luck.
>>48046024M I D G E
>>48046024I saw this cute photo on Twitter yesterday. They maybe be gone in the near future but right now they're creating the idols of tomorrow
>>48046078>creating the idols of tomorrowBad news, japs will be replaced. Embrace the dark and dystopian future with a fucking machine trying to recreate all those things. Nothing personal Miku.
Hawaiian shirt day.
>>48046078Cute~~
>>48046054I know
For me it's the tall one with autism
>>48044968This is true for all women. I dont see reason to be mean to the japanese ones. At least they try to emulate their best time
>>48046170aloha
>>48045261>>48046475I meant the group wise not on looks you dumbos. The group has been stagnate for years only releasing one new song a year that sucks ass so they go back to singing their old songs.
Yeah, she cute.
debiloz
>>48046491I want to see his dong
>>48046078I hope to see the one in xadrez dress in /main/ next year
>>48046523it's called gingham beanbro.
nonces please return to /main/
smart looking midge
>>48046177I hope there's a Saki Ishihara in there.
if you follow Isihara Saki on twitter you need to have your hard drive searched by the authorities.
https://x.com/isihara27saki/status/1848207777254224318wtf is her problem
>>48046695Just checked her x. Jeez. Wtf is wrong with her agency lol. At least wait til she's 18 before you start pimping her out. No wonder Gaijins are going to Japan in droves.
>>48046727I love when they're proud of their youth and know the type of fan they're trying to get.
All the chinese vampire costumes look a lot more elaborate this year. Not like the usual cheap donki crap
actually agree on that, was just looking at Saki's on twitter.
Costume enjoyers.
Always remember old timeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJyPc0Rbfx4
karaage is so fucking ugly
Katosan is afraid to talk to people her own age.
>>48043588underground idol with a dark past
ill smoke whatever that neko has hadlil bro looks blazed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O8zD7GuReMMf pudding can sing death metal or grindcore.
AGUANTE NANIMONO
Cool.
>>48046858Chill, southern cone fren.
woke up and thread is spammed with non-alt againbummer
https://x.com/torajyokyo_MIX/status/1848204888213508274
>>48047170cuck
>>48047218https://x.com/tnp16__/status/1847952062337941749/
>>48047240She is way too expensive i'll stick with Pudding.
woah
gobbu
Avam livestream in 15minutes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLX64yqX5lE
>>48047416we're here
I know nothing about Avam except the white hair one and black hair one like to kiss girls.
>6minutes latetsk tsk
Ayooo this intro is fucking lit
The bitch that rarely gets lines is wearing extensions and they look bad since it's so obvious.
What is the difference between a regular live and a ONEMAN live?
their best song imo
this ones a banger too actually
Only two good songs
>>48047636boss is pretty
today's turtleshttps://youtu.be/zA_kQTa2phY
>>48047382she has to try and resurrect her dead plant from cuttings now. at least someone who knows what they are doing is trying to help her with somee good and detailed instructions. people who have never take care of plants before always love them to death. she was giving it water every day.
>>48047675
go back to your containment thread
luna rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRxnVE0dcdw&t=182sThis Amanozako is so cute @3:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KNFDxkkBfkNot barefooted so it's worthless...
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONUdt-B9-w
new aespa do be good
we didnt listen to that trash
anochan do be looking cute
very true
riri halloween costume reveal tomorrow desu?
自撮り30日目
we like tall autism
>>48047449that's a huge bitch
still don't care about her past.she did what she had to in order to survive.tokyo is hell on earth for a young innocent country girl chasing her dream.
and i get called a cuck for posting mai
>>48048665cute therefore forgiven
>cute therefore forgivenmai..
>>48048665>>48048675>>48048693>>48048715Shut up cucks
>>48048665You say this but the last two videos are her working the streets
Have a tater
>Gets caught living and having a boyfriend >Instead of kicking her out of the group they demote her >Put her in the sister group and the sister group doesn't do nothing for 1year. >Gets put back onto the main group >Now is part of both groups while still having and living with boyfriend >The month she joins back she kicks two of the other members off the main group >Starts being in the wrong place at the wrong time forcing other members to trip over her >One month goes by and she bullies Luna to take a "break" >Cursed two members from paradeeq to quit
she's crushing it.
80% of posts in these threads are made by the same schizo
>>48048770You forgot to add she bullied Noa to take a break and canceled some lives
most of these posts are mine
we not going to talk about how absurd it is that pudding is drinking beer through a god damn straw?
>weWho's we?
>>48048839puddingfag and maifag
https://www.youtube.com/live/oIaw4sQ-Fdkprotect the cute boy
gay mind woke virus link
RunRunRiru
I don’t know why but my oshi all turned out to be either a slut or graduating or both. Pudding? SlutNatsuki Jam? GraduatingRita? Slut and graduated
>>48048770"I am the group"
Didn't know the new girl was a giant.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd_Y_miIJpw
>>48046475marin-chan hasn't peaked yet
>>48049171JKリフレ era vibes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlzdFAuJGA
>>48048472help me kozuemon
>>48048628pls make it stop
https://youtu.be/DDCK4KRpb1k
A cute
>>48049188the other ilife girls are midgets and they need to stay the fuck out of nagoya they know nothing of nagoyanese culture they are just trying to get into the cool new place to be. nagoya doesn't want you ilife.me>nagoya is the up and coming spot for the best /alt//alt/>nagoya is a shithole all the idols go to tokyonow when every /alt/ goes on expedition to osaka they also stop in nagoya i should have just kept quiet and gatekeeped nagoya idk why i tell you losers anything i could have been the only gaijin in nagoya now a bunch of fat westoid slobs are gonna be there
>>48049453keep away from my bar owner waifu in osaka tyvm
>>48049459Don't worry she sounds gross. I'm only going to mawaloop and to see some hyperpop skanks at blinkS2
>>48049453Going to Nagoya isn't something new you jabroni.
>>48049474when you going back? im pencilled in for March and almost exclusively playing Dating Sim Osaka
>>48047667Novice mistake
>>48049477nagoya has its own scene now and tokyo idols can fuck off
>>48049484idk if I don't go in early spring then probably not til the next year
You never went anywhere Schizo
>>48049490iLife always goes at least once a year you newfag.
>>48048770I love how you are updating it. This is like de bogdanoff's lore. Im gonna start asking for updates on this girl.
>>48047937Very nice waki
>>48049499im the only person left here who has ever posted cheki and the last thing i would ever want to do in japan is hang out with one of you fags
>>48049538No you aren't.
名古屋で鍛えた地下アイドルが東京で見る夢https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/225218
>it's ship simulator time anon
>say hello to the void for me
アイドル脱退の違約金、「労基法違反で無効」 事務所側の敗訴確定https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/27409493/
>>48049619literally 1984
>>48049561she should have stayed in nagoyashe could be on the cutting edge now
>>48048741Wow, Babymetal have really changed since I last saw them
Please support Sayaka StarAn idol that does her best everydayyou might ask>why does she do her best everyday?fuck if i know.
>Let's eat ramen and go home
>he's here toooh no no no
>>48049945When can i book her for a private session? I would like to see how hard she works for myself.
grisey
this ham isn't purebred japanese
I have 5x as many faceless japanese prostitute bots following me than Akane does for her new hamster-themed idol duo.You guys should follow her and give her a push.
her partner has even less. not even 200 followers.say no to impure hamus >>48050516say yes to dorohamui don't know if they are any good but what have you got to lose at this point
>>48050520>>48050540cute boy toa
>>48050359>>48050426how are you supposed to jump in front of a train with those stupid gates there? first they take the guns then they take the trains, they'll probably try and outlaw ropes next. big brother will do anything to keep you off the ship
>>48050567oh that is toa isn't it i never really followed them i always confused those two. anyway follow her hamster group
now that melancholy momi is gone i have to look to kawabunga yu for low effort selfies. they are pretty low effort but they just don't hit the same way. they're usually in focus. momi never even cared about that.
>>48049488yeah i just watched her play guitar and she might be worse at that than at plant care. but she is trying so kudos to that.
>>48050616good looking nanapopdunno about the rest of them
>>48050657is that hanon? looking mad round whoever that is
>>48048830>だけどストロービールは無理や...she's getting called out for it
Ai-chan out spooking drivers on the highway.She should just become an actual ghost already. Whole life has been building up to it.
Yet another good day to wake up a HEROINES poster
>>48050749She has her best friend.
She has a best friend too
>>48050762>>48050770both those cats would be better off without them. hanako is constantly pawning mos off on ritanchan so she can go exploit poor children in south east asia anyway
Tohkei.they're like the emotional support animal of idol
yoloz
>>48050760even after the brutal mogging they took?
>>48051007Didn't recognise these whores with their clothes on
>>48049945sayaka star? more like 最悪shit amirite!?
>>48049141this bitch is so trash she makes the JAV/hostess hauptharmonies look good.
>>48050626Oh, she was actually playing the guitar this time. Yeah she's not good at it from the jump like with plant care and drawing but she made a great effort and she owned a lot of pets growing up.
>>48051203Forgot to mention, good vocals as well*
mahou shoujo ham
time to feed the idols
からあげ猫かわいい?
>>48051546Yeah, she cute.
I like the blue member she reminds me of Komaki but cuter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyYoViAt-Ns
>>48051673>but cuter oh no no no
>>48051680>br monkey thinks he isn't an ESL
>>48051694I'm saying she isn't cuter than Komaki. Nice projection, pussboy.
>>48051490hell yeah
>>48051700She clearly is though.
Nah.
Yeah.
So did Femme Fatale never come back? Feel bad for Tonchiki she hyped it up the whole month lmao
tall idol
>>48051709Yeah she was and is cute
>>48051758Hopefully they don't fuck the group up like they did with nanaland.
>>48051765They probably won’t since the agency is like a sweatshop.Also the new group is getting new jobs quickly after debut so there is no time for messing around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnTRrKdCaU
>>48051734not yet. Sakina has plenty of work and her pr team won't answer any questions about Kanano it's like she doesn't exist. I feel a lot less bad for her after reading her "let's talk about love" q&a it was extremely off putting she may literally be retarded. But she's still gorgeous doesn't seem intentionally evil so I would like to hear some new tunes from her.I like femme fatale and even Kanano's solo stuff and collabs but who I really feel bad for are the army of people whose job it is to put on a show and a tour and the fans who were looking forward to it only to have some utterly self-absorbed cunt just say fuck you all and cancel that shit at the last minute. And it's the second time in a row she has done it. You can tell she doesn't ever even think about anyone but herself.They still got some banger tunes tho.
>>48046280https://youtube.com/shorts/F3zNqUFRTyo
>>48051929え~ I was at the unicorn gundam 2 weeks ago and didn't see tall autism or walnut. sucks.
>>48051905not bad it sounds like if yunomi made an ilife song
>>48051922Yeah I don't know how her manager let's her get away with it. Tonchiki is probably to nice to tell her sister that she is ruining it for every one around her and she is being selfish. This all started because of her boyfriend beating her ass up because she probably is 100% insane in the head. She should just forget about everything and just bond her sister to sing and dance for at least a year so she can heal. Otherwise she is just going to be depressed in her apartment for the rest of the year lol
>>48051929cool>>48051933>if is wasn't for bad luck id have no luck at all
>>48051935her boyfriend was on Instagram with his homie talking shit about her and how shes just a crazy bitch.I am not sure Sakina is capable of original thought so I think she will do anything anyone tells her to. I hate to admit it but /alt/ was right about her. Idk if they have the same management or what but she seems to be doing fine in spite of all her sisters bullshit.
>>48051960So she probably has autism or never grew up out of her teenage years.
new fishing idol on the block. rainbow trout. tasty.
>>48051967She probably need a cat, or more.
>>48051982woe to that poor cat
>>48051982She doesn't need a /pet she would neglect or abuse it.
>>48051014>>48051392that 4piece picture she has on her twitter of the pope holding the dog is hilarious
>tfw kanano adopts a kitten
forgot picmuch like kanano would forget to feed her kitten
obasan power couple
no idea who that gravy is
>>48051203where does she post those
>>48052035Yaaaaaawn
>>48052096i watched the one on threads the minute she posted it. it seems like a bit more difficult of a song she was trying and she was obviously just learning it but it was pretty bad and she knew it>>48051207her vocals were terrible too but i think it might have been the first time she tried to play that song. she was completely off key and having a lot of difficulty with the fingering on just playing open chords with a capo. it looked like it was the first time she ever picked up a guitarbut im glad she was giving it a try and it was cool of her to post it even though it was really bad. the world could always use another cute guitar girl
>>48050066fuck off faggot retard
>>48052039Wrong pictureAugust has such weird eyebrows
Is Katosan going to make it?
do NOT go to isihara saki's tiktok
woke upthread is filled with non-alt again
>>48052304if you truly dislike her then stop posting about her alreadygo the fuck away, 01familia fans disgust me
>>48052314you should probably quit waking up
you should stop spamming mainstream groups hereyou are no better than that one kpop fag
name the mainstream groups
>>48052328I don't spam mainstream groups here. I just don't argue about what is and is not /alt/ anymore.But if you knew what was best for you you should probably stop waking up.That's what I'm going to do.
>>48052300I hope so. She deserves to. Her heart is exceedingly pure even though she works in that sleaze factory.
>>48052335ilife
>>48052362I will murder you in your sleep.
get his ass, aisu
Woke up.Candy is still my future wife.
i dont think thats how youre meant to apply makeup
fuck tokisenall my homies hate tokisen(and we hate tiktok-bait yakousei too)
>>48052379wish a nigga would
>>48052008This other meme she made was also funny
https://www.youtube.com/live/46ynd3iZBrY?si=FiujEw6ec5lXsSzB
>>48052491yeah that one was great to. love that little guy
Aina's best solo works were when she was still in bish.
>>48052523Worst spaguetti ever. Im offended just by looking at it.
japanese cheese is all kinds of scuffed
they put their spaghetti dishes in the oven after cooking them, actuallysadly
>>48052457>No Luna>No NoaWho's next on Mais target list?
>>48052606maybe other heroines, ilife are a little light on the ground right now
>>48052611She already killed 2 of the paradeeq girls maybe one of the other groups
https://www.tiktok.com/@madonna_khss/video/7428431494344936722
how do i know if a group is alt or not?
post them and if people seethe, they're alt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgFbLdD3hTk
>>48052748banger song ngl but what's up with the sound mixing. you can barely hear some of them
>>48052766I think they did that on purpose since some of them can't sing.
>banger song nglits fucking shit
>>48052523wtf is this? at least post her foot porn you weirdo.p.s. as a european that's some fine looking spaghetti. amerifags don't know shit.
>>48052511Is Aina even alt anymore?
>>48052511>>48053012why is aina such a semen demon
>>48053022I don't know but i like it.
>saving riri and aisu for lastInfuriating
>>48053220It's like they say, saving best for last.
deviloz
>>48053280who's this busubeni trashwhore?
Heroines should pick up Femme Fatale but replace Kanano with Riri or Coai.
>>48053644that would be bizarre, the replacing kanano part
You guys watched anos new show, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRxXIaqnQY
did anofag just assume my fucking gender
>anoseethers make 2016 triggered liberal jokesgrim
>>48052721look at how they dress
is karen from fruits zipper natty? she is too cute to be true
>>48054625> dress like a doll> does death voice besides of regular "works"How do you categorize that
speaking of natty
>>48054646Tryhard.
自撮り31日目Look at that smile, she knows it's almost over.
so cool
>>48052958Dude wtf. Im italian. You must be bulgarian or something. You can't be serious...
https://youtu.be/EqoebgjO9hY
I think avam noa's fake nose is unsettling
>>48054985sex with aina till the end of times
The only good thing Aina has done was make that softcore MV.
sumuvavitch, I honestly thought this was ano. The transformation is complete. This is now the Age of Raki
I looove the pla pla pla and who is this semen demon thing
neigh
there is a very good reason why ano fears raki and it's not because she wants to be her so bad but i don't think anyone here has the brainpower to fully comprehend it even if i were to explain it.>900 second timer before i can even post thisthey're afraid. they're very afraid
>>48056212if it's fake ano then I don't want it
>>48056242nothing is faker than ano herself you fool
perhaps you have a point
>>48052304O_O
https://youtu.be/wZmULUVlwEUso much for keeping the faith
>>48054915lol. japs literally invented italian culture when they created mario, my guy. my oshi only eats at authentic italian joints like saizeriya. you just don't get it. you can't be unserious at /alt/. guy fieri.
it's just baked spaghetti I don't see what the big deal is it looks fine. i don't have the Ayuni-D ketchup webm handy but it could be far worse.
man anochan is so sexo. i wish i could taste her baked spaghetti. my oshi says italitards can't even cook. can't make an authentic carbonara without ketchup.
ho ho ho
>>48056531Bring that shit to >>47960377She is to spicy for /alt/
>>48056613That's not even the whole gang
>>48056450It's called culture. You wouldn't know.
>>48056613and ho ho ho ho ho
>>48056613hoe hoe hoe
>>48056613We love 01Familia. Where is katosan?
>>48056613want neko sexy santa hinano for christmas>>48056212>900 seconds timerSame.
>>48056613i wish i had a mooove imouto
01familia > ilife and friends
i miss ringo...
That's not ringo
>>48056747That's not Ringo though
I hope Ringo is doing okay her parents basically hate her and she is a poorfag. Hopefully the bullies at school don't bully her more because she quit being an idol...
she's doing well and appreciates everyone's concern
i'm glad that's not ringo but sad it's some other poor expolited child being forced into whoredomgodspeed you little ringosandon't ever look back
>>48056212Raki is literally just ano with none of the charm. Like they grew an ano clone in a lab but forgot to add the personality
>charmano has a terrible personality
ano-haters always have to come up with some bullshit
>terrible personalitythat's part of the charm
her pr team makes her look even worse you can always tell what tweets are hers and what backtracking damage control is done by her agency and they're both awful self-aggrandizing bullshit in different ways that belies someone who is completely insecure but tries to believe the lies even though they know the horrible truth. she's basically just a corporate puppet at this point
i love ano
>>48056735>「アイドルさんだったら私だけ見て!みたいなのも嬉しい要素なのかもしれないけど、アイドルぽく推してるわけじゃないぜみたいな人も最近見かけるようになったし、何より制限かけて私を好きでいるのが義務っぽくなったら嫌だから、監視や束縛をやめたいんですけど、どうしてもム!が顔に出る」という話Katosan has transcended idoldom despite it allgodspeed you Katosandon't ever look back
>crocsThat poster from bosnia who likes microwaved spaghetti gonna love this!
>>48056932>schizo headcanon
>>48056970you would never be able to handle the truth. be grateful i'm sparing you of it
>>48056985>you would never be able to handle [headcanon]done
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