You did your dailies, right? I mean, surely you can't just keep sticking with those fan-TRANSlated games, can you?
when will this site stop glorifying japan like it can never do wrong?yeah yeah, ''anime website chud'' I get it
>>48050141go back chang
>>48050142I'm yuropoor, fatso
>>48050141>you can't learn japanese because japs slaughtered chinks and gooks during WW2who cares
>>48050141maybe ill learn chinese if you people make some good games, until then, im learning nipponese. and theres nothing you can do about it, chang.
Yeah I did, and now it's immersion time.
>>48050146The only immersion I've done since I started doing anki a month ago, is trying to decipher some moonrunes while reading hentai.
>>48050146What is that app so you can see the subtitles no on the right side all the time?
>>48050140Did them and now im readin
I only started recently, how many new cards a day should I have? The default 20 new is starting to feel like a lot when I'm struggling to remember old ones already.
I'm 36, my brain has degenerated, I can't learn japanese now.And if I did, what do I read or play? Highschoolers defeating god? Its over, you either learn it as a teenager or its too late
>>48050140>You did your dailiesYes. I also picked up a japanese -kana and kanji writing workbook.
>>48050151>Japanese media is just video gamesYou dumbass. Learning japanese is worth it if only to read the Tale of Genji in original japanese.
>>48050140My current streak is 1518 days.
>>48050150I do 15 and it's just enough to not overwhelm me.
>>48050140>becoming your own troonslator
>>48050150i have 10. it's what most people recommend from what I've read
>>48050156Learning a language is the literal opposite of translation.
>>48050150I had a hard time in the beginning as well, but my brain got better at memorizing patterns and associating them with letters and meaning. I remember in the first few days, I was literally staring at the same kanji for 5 minutes, trying to engrave it into my brain, and then when I go next and see it again 30 seconds later, I was completely incapable of remembering what kanji it was. Made me feel straight up brain-damaged.
>>48050150Lower it to 10-15, enable FSR and start reading/watching anime with jp subs. You can put it back to 20 or more after you start immersing more because it's easier once you do that>deck >click cog for options >disable reschedule cards on changeJust make sure to click optimise every month or two. Having FSR enabled should decrease review counts and keep retention and whatever you set it to. 85 is the sweet spot imo>>48050148https://killergerbah.github.io/asbplayer/
is there a way to make yomitan work properly on mobile? i have it on firefox but it's very janky and hard to make it work.
>>48050146You'll have to take off the training wheels eventually. If you're reading subs and not devoting your full attention to listening, you're going to become dependent on the subs and make it harder for you to listen in the long run.
>>48050161Kiwi Browser
>>48050157>mfw learning german >indoeuropean language>latin alphabet>much closer to home than japanese>only 5 cards every day>always feel like i get too many leech cards
>>48050154>>48050152>>48050140Guy trying to learn Japanese here. Is this anki card shit really necessary? English is my second language and I learned it by full immersion, no duolingo or apps like that. A bit of a waste of time imo, learning the concepts or words with no context it's not the same as finding them in REAL material. Then you just try to understand the sentences by yourself by using google translator or asking chatgpt and relating concepts. It's much harder this way, but in the long-term it will make you understand the language more. So I think I will follow the same process to learn japanese.
>>48050153>le never give up memeKek I wish I was 16 again to believe in self improvement.
>>48050162I can't even read the subs without translating every second word right now... It's a long road ahead for me.
>>48050150Set it to 10-15 and don't feel too bad early on, the first 6~ months are by far the hardest part>>48050165Anki is for kanji readings because japanese is retarded, you could grind out without anki but it's a massive pain in the ass. I do agree it's a waste for any non chink language tho
>>48050150>I only started recently, how many new cards a day should I have?100
>>48050165The main reason people cram shit with Anki is to frontload Kanji in a short span of time so that they can actually get to the part you described, full immersion. It's different when you literally must learn how to read from basically zero all over again. You get a huge head start learning any language that shares your alphabet/reading system, and that makes it feel "easier" to learn those languages since you can indeed just go straight into reading/listening.
>>48050165No and I consider anki to be a meme>don't skip grammar learning>if you want to grind kanji characters, do it through radicals so that they're easier to memorize (such as 海 - sea, 悔 - scorn/despise, 侮 - repent/regret all together for example)>continue consuming media fully in Japanese (mangas with furigana for example)
>>48050150I left it at 20. Once you got through a couple hundred cards and you hit your daily limit, it won't show you new cards.
>>48050165If Japanese wasn't half ching chong it would be a meme.
>>48050165I can definitely say that you will never learn Japanese.
>>48050140The more you learn Japanese the more you realize it's not because of crappy translations, but most of this shit is just not translatable or else it completely looses its meaning or satirical sense. Learning the language is the only way.
Real question: how did the smartest race on earth, the Asians, with a median IQ of 107, manage to create the most retarded written language possible, while simultaneously having the most bare-bones spoken language possible?
https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1g8q2mf/i_beat_my_porn_addiction_by_making_a_promise_to/Don't use eroge to learn or you'll end up like this man
>>48050140>those fan-TRANSlated gamesI love the concept of a man being heavily into otaku media, and wanting to learn Japanese out of frustration that so many trans women are heavily into the same media and are learning Japanese. You're literally just the same autistic people in different clothes and yet something about them disgusts you so much.
>>48050176to prevent us lower lifeforms from speaking it
>>48050176It's like a shitty fortran code base that nobody dares to touch after decades of spaghetti code and undocumented patches.They weren't smart and made a shitty system, they're smart because they made and have to use a shitty system.
>>48050140Why the FOOK are there multiple cards for some kanji, what kind of retard makes these decks.Like I’m doing my reps and 方 shows up, I’m like okay that’s hou. WRONG, that’s actually kata. Like nigga this wouldn’t be an issue if you just drilled it into me from the start. Whoever made these decks needs to be shot.
>>48050140For those starting, know that the path never ends. I translate vidya as a living and STILL do Anki because you always find obscure kanji and I add them to my mining deck.https://youtu.be/bpaRzyZPGu8?si=0EKIDPY1s4vwsD6o
>>48050140Thanks for the reminder. Completely forgot this morning. Have some bnuuy.
>>48050181角角
>>48050176Logography is a hell of a drug.Korea and Japan figured out that syllabaries helped because their countries didn't collapse every 5 minutes.
>>48050180>>48050179>be chinese>spend half your life memorizing random symbols>go on escalator>dieis this how higher lifeforms live?
>>48050181>he fell for the individual kanji memekekshould've gone vocab mining instead.見方味方前方後方南方北方西方東方片方方言now you win a bunch of words that are good to know as well as some readings of 方
>>48050181>Why the FOOK are there multiple cards for some kanji, what kind of retard makes these decks.Because they're different words.
>>48050181one way is how you say it with non-jukugo words.The other is how you say it by itself as its own word. For example生 means life in compound words (pronounced すぃ)But by itself most times it means raw (pronounced なま).
>>48050176>calling the Japanese language "retarded" and "barebones"yup definitely a brainlet behind this post
>>48050181"We live in Scotland""It was a live concert"bros wtf my language doesn't work???
>>48050181>方>tsugi no kata, dozou
>>48050184>>48050187交わる交わるI’m not doing reps anymore on this 2k/6k deck, this shit is actually doing more harm than good by trying to teach with this separation bullshit. Whenever something new shows up I have to go out of my way to look it up to see if they left out the important fact that theres a whole different meaning or reading.
>>48050181>He hasn't started counting つ and 日 yetUh oh.
>>48050170>>48050171>>48050173>>48050174I'm pretty sure Kanji it's not that hard (of course it's really hard but not THAT hard like everyone says it is) you just learned it the retarded way memorizing everything and in a super weird formulaic way.
>>48050193What's mean to be difficult about 交わる?
>>48050193>Whenever something new shows up I have to go out of my way to look it up to see if they left out the important fact that theres a whole different meaning or reading.Just don't fuckin worry about it dude. You can always add to your stock of known meanings for words at any time. It's actually easier once you know one meaning since you can compartmentalize it right there. What are you gonna do, get mad that 桜 can mean "cherry blossom" and "shill" (actual meaning, not 4chan meaning) but no one told you about the 2nd meaning? No, you're gonna go "cool sakura ALSO means shill, logged away and filed" and move on in life.
>>48050187I'll say the ones I know>見方Look at (maybe)>北方Northward>西方Westward.I hope I got at least one right.
>>48050150Nigger that's way too much and will get overwhelming fast. Once you've got a decent starter deck, drop it to like 7 a week/1 a day. That many reviews for years on end is just exhausting.
>>48050197Sakura wa shill janai desu~!
>>48050200>desu0/10 for not ending the sentence with もん
>>48050201Sakura wa dekinai hito desu~:(
>>48050197It’s like teaching someone completely foreign to english that retard means slow down but omitting the fact that it means mentally disabled. I much prefer learning all possible meanings or readings given at once instead of being led purposefully astray.
>>48050195>I'm pretty sure Kanji it's not that hardYou're awfully confident for someone who can't even speak English properly.
>>48050203>I prefer learning all meanings at onceAh yes because when I learn a word I want to know it means Bone, Skeleton, and 4th house of the celestial host, home of Take-Mikazuchi and the gods of war.
>>48050195I still maintain to say anki is a meme and certainly one of the terrible ways to learn the language.And I really do emphasize in saying you shouldn't skip Japanese grammar. Anki is likely not going to teach you for example, the different forms of 後 (pronounced either ato, go or nochi) and their grammatical uses.
>>48050206>I still maintain to say ankiYou should maintain to learn English first.
>>48050140I am, but I'm starting to get to that point where I can't just brute force memorize new kanji anymore. I need to think of a better method to remember these bastards.
>>48050147>hentaithis is legit the only use I would have for it. I don't play jap games nor read that much manga anyways
>>48050207You'll earn the right to criticize my bad choice of English words once you're able to tell the grammatical ambiguity between>~たあと>~たあとに>~たあとから>~たあちで>~ごに>~てから>~のち
>>48050204I'm very happy with my english skills :)>>48050206I won't.
>>48050150do not listen to other replies if you put 10 a day it will take you like 2 years until you are actually able to read something not beginner friendly and you will lose motivation. personally I would recommend 30 - 40.
>>48050140Been doing them for years now, and it's finally paying off.
>>48050213>years for what appears to be primary school literaturegrim
I dropped off two years ago and haven't been able to get a good streak going since
>>48050214did blud just make that shit in paint?
>>48050206anyone intelligent enough realizes that it's just a tool to help, not some magic spell that'll teach you all the intricacies of the language
>>48050217Do you have some kind of grammar checking extension lmao
please join us on >>>/jp/djt
>>48050219I am dyslexic, so yes. I do.
>>48050220don't want to catch your crabs, sorry
>>48050221Wow, an actual retard.
>>48050140I haven't done my dailies in years and i don't know how to pick it up again after going through 1k kanji
>>48050223blud got quite upset after i caught him making CRINGE DRAWINGS in paint.
>Finally get back to anki>do 200 reviews every day because need to catch up>get sick for two weeksthere is a secret cabal working against me
>>48050222djt is dying we need everyone we can get
>>48050228it's full of dekinais and drooling crab bucket tards, the occasional threads on /v/ have always been better
>>48050228Good. I used to use it for resources but TMW covers basically everything I want now
>>48050227>he thinks 200 is a lot
>>48050178>implying that trannies watch the same things the average otaku watches.trannies almost exclusively watch josei muke dogshit. bl/yaoi dogshit. reverse harem dogshit. shota dogshit. idol girl dogshit. magical girl/aikatsu/precure dogshit, and they do so in part to maintain the their delusions. you typed all of that without understanding the difference between some autist who's likes mechs and stats vs literal mental illness.
>>48050190>one little change in tone can completely change what you meanto be fair, this is kind of retarded.
>>48050233>though tough rough roof round lawn mouth
>>48050233It doesn't work like that. This isn't Chinese. At best, it makes you just sound less native.
>>48050233https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcSq8bO20w
>>48050140Stopped doing anki reps this yearMy longest streak was 580 days or somethingIM FREEEEEEEEEE
>>48050165it primes your brain to recognize words.be sure to flash yourself. don't just stare at the card like a retard for a minute. e.g. "公式, koushiki, that's the word that means official, as in official PV. next"
>>48050171>>don't skip grammar learningbasic grammar I understand since you have stuff like tae kim's grammar guide and textbooks go in order over basic stuff like だ/です, ある as in exist, ある as in have/possess, ことがある as having done something in your life, する as in have black hair, etc.but later on isn't grammar something that you look up as you go? I usually find a a sentence I don't understand and then search for its parts. e.g. 持ちつ持たれつ (verb1つverb2つ)
>満更>not pronounced mankouit's how I can remember
>>48050171>radicals so that they're easier to memorize (such as 海 - sea, 悔 - scorn/despise, 侮 - repent/regret all together for example)you're not even explaining how radicals are even related>海 has sanzui, aka the water radical on the left side. sea = water. you have words like 海, 海底, 海流, etc.>悔いる has risshinben, the heart radical on the left, which is related to emotions. 悔しい means regretting/feeling bitter and frustrated (over a failure). it appears in words like 後悔 and 痛悔>侮 has ninben, the person radical on the left. people are hated by others. you have words like 侮る, 侮辱, 軽侮and this analysis doesn't work 100% of the time. because you can't deduce what, say, 離れる means from its parts
>>48050232It's possible to like all that shit without being mentally ill. You simply thrust the title of "mentally ill" upon any who engage with it because it's convenient for you and makes you feel better about yourself while you engage with nothing and enjoy nothing. You, the one who knows not a word of Japanese and can barely keep his English on straight all the while. You, whose sole source of entertainment is hating what others like, and hating that others like it.Pitiful.
>>48050227>get sick for two weeks>this isn't the perfect opportunity to spend all day doign reviews and mining animu
>>48050243there's zero (0) chance of remembering anything while sick
>>48050244incorrectyou actually get your best practice while sick because your body is in overdrive fighting for its life
>>48050244anything while what?
>>48050140Today? Not yet, I'll get to it once I've eaten.
>>48050229which is why I always make sure to sic jannies on your threads
>>48050153nigga that is written in 11th century Japanese you are not reading it in original Japanese even if you learned japaneseIf you are an English speaker and can't read Beowulf don't worry about reading genji
>>48050140Remember, learning languages is easy so long as you do a little bit of practice every day. It adds up to a lot over time!
>>48050153Pure kino
>>48050251
>>48050234this happens because english is a bastardization of like 10 different languages
>>48050242considering im not talking about teenagers, but grown men that are +25 on average, no i don't think its all that likely a grown man watching josei muke and kodomo muke aimed a girls and somehow resonating with it is normal and adjusted behavior. but i guess you watch it or whatever so you're offended. i've never met one person irl that was male and my age who heavily consumed this stuff, but was otherwise normal. you also make a lot of assumptions. no idea where you're getting the "my life is boring and i need to drag people down'' pseud psychanalysis. i hesitate to say that you're projecting/are a tranny yourself/tranny sympathizer on 4chan lol, but i can't explain why what would make complete sense to any regular person i talk to on the street is somehow completely illogical to you, but whatever. and i wasn't gonna bring it up, but it might kill you to know that i do know a bit of japanese myself. n2 certified and i engage with anime and lns everyday.
>>48050140am i gonna make it
>>48050255>17.78s/cardwhat are you doing nigger
>>48050256i try hard to remember, i dont like half assing it
>>48050150Remember that you can always set new cards to 0 and just do reviews for a week or two too cool off. As long as you do reviews the system still functions and you can restart whenever you feel comfortable again.
What are you playing friends?I'm almost done with Nekopara vol.2
>>48050237I have such a long streak now that it feels like stopping would be waste. Besides it takes like 20 minutes to do every day which isn't much.
>>48050225You need to be 18 to post here, retard zoomie nigger. Go back to shittock or whatever shithole you crawled out from
i rarely ever miss a day
>learn japaneseYou are here>get n1>get job in japan>move to japan>get japanese wifeprofit
>>48050261blud is you tripping? what the sigma are you so upset over? did i fanum tax yo bitch nigga ass or wut is that skibidi rizz you're cappin on blud? straight ohio
>>48050263>n1>jobwhy would i ever want these
>>48050255You're taking way too long per card.>Easy"I don't want to see this card ever again because the content is second nature at this point.">Good"I knew this immediately.">Hard"I eventually got this correct but had to think about it.">Again"I took more than 10 seconds and got it correct, or I got the meaning wrong, or I got the reading wrong."Spending a minute on a card is retarded because you're wasting valuable time and mental energy that could be spent reviewing other cards or better yet immersing in native content. Just fail it so you see the card more frequently and it will become easier with additional repetition. The whole point of programs like Anki is to save you time. Let the FSRS algorithm do its job.
>>48050262link to the grammar deck
>>48050162this is from a study done on spics learning english, but watching shows with subtitles in your target language showed an average of a 17% improvement in language acquisition.
>>48050263>>get job in japan>>move to japan>>get japanese wifedon't want any of that thoughever
>>48050140i started learning much more when i deleted anki and just started reading vns with dictionary open.
>>48050140What's a good way to learn kanji? It's still filtering me. The symbols are whatever. It's remember the symbols and then also all the readings for it and knowing if they are relevant or not.
>>48050270ngmi poster right here
>>48050271there is no way for a dekinu like u
>>48050267he has two decks, a full one with every sentence, and a speedrun with 2 sentences from each grammar point. this is the speedrun version.https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1705551744he had an ai generate the audio for the sentences, so you might notice it just gets words flat out wrong sometimes.i don't think sentence audio is even necessary though for a grammar deck
>>48050263>japanese wifemy friends over at 4chan said they're all cheaters though
>>48050141Anime website, niggurath. Maybe xitter is more your speed?
>>48050275you just need to find a good one that will treat you rightpreferably someone 20 yrs older
>>48050271It's easier to learn full words instead of kanjis alone. Read more and with enough time you will start to recognize the kanjis and its meaning
I'm an old fogey that can't into technology, so I'm still using handwritten/drawn note cards
>>48050257stop wasting your timeset up to auto reveal the answer after 5 secondsinstead of staring at a card for more than 10 seconds, you could do two more
>>48050266sure, spending a minute per card is bad, but on the flipside, 90% comprehension or whatever goal you ankidrones set up is retarded. imagine not being able to _____ 1 word out of 10. doesn't that ____ very retarded to you?
>teaches you economic and politic newspaper linguo you will never see irlthanks premade deck
>>48050141I love japan period
>>48050141But japs did literally nothing wrong.>killed chinks>killed gooks>made anime
>>48050279soul
>>48050282don't talk to me or my fukeiki ever again
>>48050140lol noHow do I reset a deck anyway? Mobile only
>>48050282read something more complicated than highschool romcom trash
>>48050288no
>>48050286My 株 of 憲法 is off the charts.
>>48050257dont do this >>48050280 keep your anki sessions less than 30 minutes. don't use easy and hard, only use good and again. this reduces decision fatigue and it ends being more accurate in the longer run. if you know you don't know it, just hit again. the other guy is right though more than 10-15 seconds on a card is alot, but i also assume you're new so that expected i guess.
>>48050282You're gonna need it when you grow up from children's video games.
>>48050292no
>>48050279ngmi
>>48050282You'd be fucking surprised what words pop up even in the most basic ass shounen/shouho anime and manga, dude. """"Rare"""" 四字熟語 (read: actually common) and various economics/political/other lingo appears everywhere even if you're not trying to find it.
>>48050292nta but at that point I'd have grown off japanese media altogether so I don't need it either way.
>try to read Japanese thing>it’s just a bunch of English words in katakana Why are they like this
>>48050297English won, japanese is dying.
>try to read english thing>it's just a bunch of French and German word but mispronounced and misspelledWhy are they like this?
>>48050295軍事転用 popped up in frieren 一石二鳥 popped up in danmachi i think非常事態 from eva臨戦態勢 from rezero
>>48050165Of course is not necessary, it's simply the fastest way to learn the language.And not for "readings" but vocabulary. Learning isolated kanji is optional (and in my opinion pointless), but any language requires you to learn thousands of words amd spaced repetition is the fastest way to memorize stuff.The problem is that retards believe Anki is some replacement for actual practice or that you need to memorize an arbitrary threshold of words to start reading when that's bullshit.Do anki, and start reading and watching as soon as possible, even if you don't understand shit struggle with it.
>>48050300非常事態宣言 was actually the full stack that shows up in eva lol
>>48050299>that thing you just said?>we Germans have a word for that>it’s ThatThingYouJustSaidEn
>>48050300slopslopslopmega slop
>>48050281What's better, being able to recall 90% of 10,000 words because you spend 6 seconds per card on average during reviews, or 95% of 3,000 words because you spend an average of 20 seconds? Knowing 9,000 words is far more likely to help me comprehend more of the sentence so I can guess/learn more easily for what I don't know, and, to learning words containing Kanji specifically, I am of the opinion that the more vocabulary you learn the easier it gets for your brain to intuit things and form the connections you need to learn even more. If you really want to waste your time, you could set a higher desired retention rate in Anki but that's just going to result in you spending more time reviewing fewer things.
whats the best way to get started from zero, before even getting to the anki step?like if you were restart from nothing, what is the best resource to learn grammar/kana/hiragana
>>48050305this is why all real nibbas set their retention to 80%>>48050306there is no best way sorry
>>4805030610.000 hours of english subbed anime and playing vidya with japanese voices
>>48050306Just learn kana from youtube. I think the Japanese pod 101 voice is cute
>>48050140I use anki to study for medical entrance exams 1500 cards just kill me now
>>48050308>just keep slurping tranny subs until you learntrue ngmi right here
>>48050310>1500 cards just kill me nowPer day? Or in total?
>>48050308>10.000 hours of english subbeddid that, think it made me worse
>>48050305neither. learn a language right.it's sad that you ankidrones can't tell that statistics are a means to assess progress, not an endworst of all, your methodology is flawed and assumes all words demand the same amount of attention and time to be acquired. content words like 車 are much easier to pick up than stuff like もっぱら or 臨む
>>48050310not even a lotcome back when its 10000
>>48050310Gender?
>>48050140Just setup yomitan for mining. Do I need anything else?
>>48050317sharex for kino pictures and audio + the latest version of jitendex for style points
>>48050306I suggest you start drilling hiragana/katakana because they are easy to memorize, and start learning grammer through your resource of choice. There's plenty of text books, youtube videos, and other guides to basic grammar. Once you've got a decent understanding of the basics of grammer so that you can recognize how sentences are generally formed, you can start learning vocabulary and reading. Granted, the reading you do starting out will be slow as fuck and you'll have to look up what every single word means, but that's how it goes. Toss all the words you don't know into an anki deck, drill them a little bit each day, and you'll learn.
>>48050319>grammer
>>48050320>engrish
>>48050140uhh yeah sure Im learning Japanese
>>48050316Female uwu
yikes, retard board
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>>48050338>playing japanes games is not /v/fucking retard>>692516063your japanese looks very weird. I don't know what you're watching but you should cut down on the loanwords. here, have this excerpt from my favorite book
get fucking owned dekinais
>>48050345meant for >>48050322
>>48050165Well let's see. People in the past have learned Japanese just fine without Anki. There are probably still lots of people today who learn Japanese without Anki.However you in particular will never learn this language without Anki.
>>48050345>>playing japanes games is not /v/Who was talking about that?
>>48050392you're mom
>>48050306go check out TheMoeWay and start learning nigga.
stay /v/CHADS
>>48050465>click on link>love live PNG slop yikes. got a version with idol m@ster instead?
dunno what love live is
>>48050498
>>48050506dunno what that is
>>48050508love live
in what ways will learning japanese and language learning in general will improved in the future?
>>48050531superintelligence will enable us to upload this kind of stuff to our brains like 10-20 years from now
>>48050531who knows. the only way language learning can realistically be improved when ai can measure what you know and don't know using data like flashcards and optimize your reading material to always be 90 percent comprehensibility.
>>48050531optimizing methods for acquisition. basically, speedrunning the language.>detect and cases of language interference and take measure to minimize it>give people ways to disambiguate and select words. you want to say appearance? there will be a chart or something that explains whether to pick 姿, 外見, 外観, 容姿, 容貌, etc.>giving people ways to learn how to handle words or concepts from one language in the other. you say should (expressing an ideal, a prediction one is confident about, advice, etc.) and you'll get ～したほうがいい, ～すればいい, ～すべきだ, etc.unfortunately people aren't too keen on this because helping people learn faster is basically working towards putting yourself out of a job.
I only do 10 new cards a day but on the weekends I do like 30 (thursdays and fridays are also part of my weekend), is this okay? I'm starting to feel like 10 might be too little but it lets me keep my streak
>>48050140I seriously need to get back to anki. When I started learning jap, I literally did all my reps 95% of days, but now whenever I try doing it I just get incredibly sleepy and decided to read manga instead. Even practicing writting is easier for me.
how do you niggas memorize all these runes, while continually adding dozens more a day? ive got the memory of a goldfish and barely remember what i had for lunch
>>48050560it'll be epic when ai gets good at writing good stories tailored to individuals while keeping stuff mostly comprehensible for language learners
>>48050637You can already do that.
>>48050594after you see them a ton you will start recognizing and differentiating thousands of them>>48050642nope ai currently writes like garbage.
>>48050594anki with fsrs turned on and trusting the process
>>48050645You need to learn how to prompt. Give as many details as possible. Examples as well. Style of writing you are aiming for, etc. It won't be "great" but not garbage either.
how can such a case be helped? https://www.reddit.com/r/Epilepsy/comments/1etjbxz/should_i_stop_studying_japanese_if_it_triggers_my/
>>48050486The love live stuff was from the previous owner who left the server and transfered the ownership to some german dude
>>48050594>see 握る>oh it has 扌(tehen), the hand radical on the left. it ends in る too>immediately think of 握手(handshake)>oh yeah it's nigiru, the one that means grab, like when you grab onto the subway handle/strap(取っ手/ハンドル)tl;dr runes are much easier if you already know the words
>>48050728genetically ngmi
>>48050777how to help similar cases like that?
>>48050741>cherry picked kanji kekdo 折角stop trying to convince us you didn't waste your own time.
>>48050816>nooooooooo hard word exist your rule doesn't work 100% of the time, it's all useless reeeeeeeeeeeholy shit talk about つまらぬあら探し. are you gonna bitch about 離れる next?
>>48050848折角、意地、矛盾、逆境、空虚、曖昧、失敗、臆病、挑戦、従事、寛容、契機、複雑、幻滅、悠然、端的. Also talking in partial jp is kinda cringe
>>48050594Grab a pencil and write them down.
How is the android version of Anki? Is it pretty much good enough? I got a nice fresh custom rom'd tablet and I want something to help me learn Japanese. I learned the kanas, now I guess Kanji and Anki are the next steps. Any other suggestions, anon?
>>48050354This was painful to read
>>48050151I'm 35 and just finished n5 bunpro and I'm 1200 deep into Kaishi 1.5k. You make excuses thinking they'll pass, but I exist which proves you wrong.
>>48051159>How is the android version of Anki?It's anki same as any other version, just install it and give it a try.>Any other suggestions, anonGet a beginners text book and work through it. The grammar exercises and explanations will be a huge help. Also don't be afraid to start engaging with native content earlier than you think, while it will be very difficult to begin with and you probably won't get anything but a very rough idea of what's going on it's a great way to stay interested especially as it let's you put what you learn from studying to practical use.
>>48052237the one downside about textbooks is that they shy away from stuff that isn't straightforward. the biggest example is probably は vs が. then you get retards insisting that 私はウナギです means "I'm an eel"
>>48050295Don't you learn 蘇連 in the 6k premade deck? I would not exactly call it useful when you're starting out. Of course you should not exactly care that much about frequency of words because of course you will want to know what the Soviet Union is.
Whenever I tried to learn how to configure anki it seemed like such a hassle, I settled for doing spaced repetition manually with a spreadsheet and a random number generator.
protip: use Twitter to follow your favorite Japanese celebs (artists or cosplayers etc..). It helps getting used to read Japanese sentences due to the nature of the platform (limited texts, casual texting style, etc..).Try to read on 5ch as much as you can, as they talk about tedious stuff all the time just like on 4chan (/pol/ stuff, coomer stuff, etc..).People tend to classify reading difficulty by the amount of rare or jargonic kanjis, or how long the sentences are. Not wholly. How ambiguous the writer's writing style does account for the degree of incomprehensibility. Muv Luv series have a lot of military jargons but the dialogue style is just military talking. Games like Parfait on the other hand tend to make it vague what the characters are talking about, beat around the bush a lot. Hence Parfait is not so easy to read despite its very casual setting and subject matter.
>>48057113You're either joking or severely autistic and retarded.
>>48050140If you are relying heavily on Anki, you're doing it wrong. Also not constantly immersing daily and going back to reading translations in your native language is what ngmi plebs do. You literally can find Japanese translations for anything including western music to help supplement your comprehension.Regardless most people can't learn Japanese and shouldn't waste time on it because it objectively amounts to nothing for anyone (90% of people) who isn't consistent about it daily. Just shut the fuck up and embrace being a MTLpleb instead.
>>48050283Cum fart slurping ceremonies?
>>48050146NOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING REDDITUBERS!ITS THE ONLY GOOD IMMERSION NONONONONONONONONONONONO
>>48062327Do people on /v/ actually think that?
>>48062400I dont know, I havent used /v/ in a long time but I think mods take down jplearning threads fast. modern /jp/ thinks that though. just take a look at the current state of djt
>>48062400/v/ hates vtubers and idol culture
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>>48050140Yes but it's fairly useless desu, I learned 10000x more from reading and listening than I ever did from anki
>>48069103drunk salary men do that shit all the time. what, an african bootyscratcher cant peepee too? do rightwing twitter grifters prefer the taste of jap piss or something?
Can I really trust sentence cards? I worry that I'm just memorizing the cards and not the actual word I'm supposed to learn.My distrust have reached levels where I now just try to ignore the sentence until I think I've got the word, but just the position of the word gives me enough cues.Even some cards I never fail, if you asked me what characters the target word contains, I probably couldn't tell you. When encountering such words during immersion, I don't recognize them.
>>48069509are you retards unironically taking advice from a spam website that no one here endorses
>>48069632What's your recommendation then? Every time I ask about anything I just get answers like "more immersion" "trust the process" but it feels like I'm training my kanji fluency extremely slowly while I can easily remember what the words mean once I hear them or see the furigana, which seems to be backwards from what the JP1K method suggests should be happening.I've only been at it for about a month, so it's possible it'll sort itself out, but it feels bad when I see potential problems and not take action.
Started learning japanese in 2017, used anki for about 2 yearsI got N2 end of 2022 and am now working in Japan for a japanese company using 100% japaneseAnki is great if you use it correctly, my best tip is to not learn random core2k/6k words just because they're common, you'll have no connection to it and you'll forget it after a whileInstead put words you see but don't understand at the top of the queue, pretty much same as mining
3 new words a day, 50 max reviewsGoing for over a year now, seeing results.Ankimaxxers doing hundreds of reviews a day are retards
>>48070370I guess I'm a retard for seeing results in 2 months compared to a year. Oh well...
>>48050161install rikaitan https://rikaitan.github.io/
>>48070080>What's your recommendation then?It's pretty simple. 1) Read Tatsumoto, 2) Do Ankidrone Foundation, 3) Make TSCs, 4) immerse whenever you can
>>48050148I use mpvacious. It's really handy for learning nip.
>>48050465>>48050486I've been using the "moeway" guide for a while and IMO its not worth it , its not a good guide it isn't written well and requires too much effort for no good reason. It's more than a Jap learning method more like Mehmet's (the author's) lifestyle choices he's forcing onto you IMO.i think the Tatsumoto guide is better (Decided to start using it a week ago) because they are more focused/streamlined idk how you call it.
>>48082528will check that out anon. ive just started doing anki like a week ago so im still pretty early into the moeway guide.
Without all of the HORSE SHIT DRAMA YOU NO-LIFERS CARE ABOUT what makes Rikaitan better than Yomitan? I'm genuinely interested in switching if there's any actual reason to.
>>48089168nothing retard. the "drama" is that this faggot tatsumoto spams his shit constantly all over 4chan using a scraper to notify him when someone namedrops popular learning tools/sites. rikaitan does nothing over yomitan and no one endorses tatsumoto's shit because he just copies and mishmashes other people.https://learnjapanese.moe/https://animecards.site/
>>48089283does tatsumoto make any money from drawing people to his guide or is this purely driven by mental illness? the spam has been happening for so long now
