>heyuri.net
fuck off kuz

do /jp/sies even use irc, xmpp, matrix, or even discord?

>>48050679
Yeah.

>>48050679
There are probably loads on discord because of how generals-heavy /jp/ is.

>>48050679
Nah.

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I like the memes from nujiura

>>48052959
I can't get the patience to browse Japanese boards honestly
Only thing I ever found interesting were some threads in 5ch

https://museum.heyuri.net/bbs/

fuck off retard stop bringing people from this site

kill yourself

Buddy we're fucking on one already, you think we haven't sorted this stuff out?

Stop having schizo fights or the thread will get deleted again, dumbfucks.

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>>48056988
i'll be honest I knew the memes from nijikaku, I have yet to know japanese and no threads in 2D have been too eyecatching either

heyuri's mods are getting real tarded. their rule 8 makes no sense
>delete 4chan speech
>allow every other kind of cancerous modern social media lingo, and ban anyone who complains about it for "rabblerousing 4chan crossposting!!!!111!1"
The mods are always the downfall of every decent imageboard/forum
Also allowing like 100 pages worth of threads to stay up is really stupid. OC makers are leaving the site rapidly due to these stupid changes

>>48062575
>>delete 4chan speech
But why though

>>48062575
sounds like you just got filtered lol

>>48062586
Because it's unfunny and gay >>48062632
>hurdur cringe skill issue muh trannies based and seethe
The internet would be a better place if we took away free internet from subsidized housing dwelling hoodrats and iphone-using hipster college students. At least 4chan's culture would improve. As it is now, this site is a fucking dumpster fire that will enforce account creation by next year; no more anonymity, and "premium memberships" for people who dont want to wait 10 minutes to post a reply. That along with a shitty userbase that cant even sputter out halfway decent sentence fragments without the use of generative AI and relying on godawful reddit memes as an excuse for humor.
When the time comes for everyone with a half functioning brain to jump ship, there needs to be an alternative imageboard that instates word filters, and permabans for anyone who uses normalfag speech

>>48062735
Define "normalfag speech". Go ahead.

>>48062575
heyuri fucking sucks so you guys definitely deserved it
can't believe anyone with half a brain would continue using any kind of spawn from kuz. hope your shit site dies out and never comes back

>>48062761
normalfag isms include
-constant use of memes (most of which are offsite in origin)
-always being overly ironic
-talking like you're black
-being overly political/a giant moralfag
-being retarded

>>48062825
the fuck are you on

>>48062575
Who are you quoting?

>>48067618
the death of heyuri

>>48068562
good riddance

>>48050503
Hikari and Uboachan are cool. The rest I don't use.

>>48068640
>Uboachan
The site itself is essentially a glorified billboard for the discord server.
>hikari
It's like if heyuri and kissu had a tard baby

>hikari3.ch
too nice
>4taba.net
too dead
>39chan.moe
too specific
>heyuri.net
too pedophile
>kissu.moe
too /a/
>kakashinenpo.com
too tumblr

>>48068689
Never went on the server, I just like posting on it from time to time. Kinda sucks that the focus on YN has been fading away over the years though but with how little there is to talk about it i understand.

>>48068726
it'd be nice if every board was just /pol/, wouldnt it?

i like pissu for self-hosted cytube streams, sometimes i wish /jp/ did something similar as community

>>48069598
/jp/ is dead. vtumours and generals killed it

>>48069598
mods would delete it, it's already a blessing they don't ban the multiplayer thread most of the time and they're letting this thread live as well

Has anyone tried 22chan? As far as I can remember heyuri was created because of some kind of disagreement between the previous owner and a lolcow that got banned years ago

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>heyuri
...

>>48069598
I would like that, but it'd just get deleted since it'd fall under /a/ territory or whatever.

How do i view the archives of all past いもげ threads?

>>48072743
people in the higurashi threads could probably get away with it and the Rozen Maiden thread had a watchalong organized on the webring but yeah it would be hard to do here
It's also banned on /a/. Dunno if they'd do that kind of stuff on other boards.

>>48072468
heyuri was created as its own thing
>>48072487
that guy's a known troll around otaku imageboards

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https://pastebin.com/9LUTZaTc

>>48050503
Here is a list https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t10VI-sccy1CfAeMZHwmCS_7agIHFo_B5ipMjzsMtTg

>>48073770
these are /a/ streams
the whole point of doing a /jp/ stream is to watch /jp/-related things with /jp/sies

>>48074647
Awesome, we can send this to wojack forums for teh lulz.

>>48074647
Pretty great resource. This should be done again, at least a guide to the /jp/ and /jp/-like imageboards out there.
>>48075104
Anon, I don't know if you noticed, but this is from like 2016. If a site there is not dead, it's likely that it is already pretty well known. Also, go back to whatever hole you came from.

>>48068726
What's wrong with Kakashi Nenpo? Seems more like a combination of /c/ and Sushichan than Tumblr

>>48075219
anon wanted to say something bad about all of these but it's hard to say anything about kakashi nenpo, so he compared it to tumblr I guess because of the cutesy and overall niceness that can make it seem a bit hugbox-like. But I'd agree that it's an unfair comparison, it's much more like /c/ as you said. I'm not versed enough in sushichan to make a comparison.

>>48069598
Generals killed the community, now it's just a bunch of cliques.

>>48075219
>What's wrong with Kakashi Nenpo
It has Hatate and I don't like her. Jokes aside I can't really find much reason to post there. It's a nice board and I posted a handful of times, but it's just kinda there and that's about as good as I can describe my feelings on it.

>>48075123
I was jk lil bro :skullemoji:

>>48076840
I am sorry for being rude...
But please don't mention that website here. It's bad enough with all of the vtumor and 3dpd shit here, can't be reminded of other dumb groups

>>48068726
>too specific
chans themed around certain series like that are my favorite. uboachan used to be a mainly yume nikki board in the 2000s (now people talk about anything but yume nikki but its not like theres much to discuss about it) and there was also a rozen maiden one i used to frequent but i think it shut down a couple years ago.

>>48077421
Desuchan?

>>48077421
there is /rozen/ on zzzchan nowadays at least
but yeah wish there were more boards that focused on one franchise/interest. I would've made one if I had somewhere to host it and enough knowledge to do it, not really with the aim of making an active board/community but at least making a place where it could be discussed.

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>>48050679
>discord
yes
>xmpp
no, but would if it were more widespread
>matrix
discord but somehow more alt-right + pedo, no thanks
>irc
ye, there's a few servers i've been active on for a few years

>>48077624
From experience imageboard software isnt hard to set up. What's hard is preventing your site from getting spammed with CP.

>>48078177
yeah but I don't really have the infrastructure at the moment
the spam threat is obviously also a problem. I wonder how much legal trouble it causes for imageboard owners

>>48076828
Is the Bunbunmaru mentioned in Kakashi Nenpo's FAQ still around? Or some archives, perhaps?
I don't see it listed here https://imageboards.net/ nor https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t10VI-sccy1CfAeMZHwmCS_7agIHFo_B5ipMjzsMtTg and cursory search doesn't return anything.

>>48080994
it died a while ago

>>48080994
/bun/ died a year or two ago due to the bot spam, but they remade the site. Only issue is it's dead in the user sense since it only gets a smattering of posts a day if that. Poor Aya.
When >>38824933 was posted the sites there still had a good amount of activity, now of those it's basically only Kakashi Nenpo, ota, and kissu

misreading other people's posts suck.
>>48080994
the link is https://bunbunmaru.ca/wakaba/ for anyone that wants to pay a visit
>>48081098
thanks for the info

>>48080785
The spam never got me so much as an email in my site owner days. As long as you have a rule against it and you actively delete it, I don't think you'll get in any kind of trouble.

>>48080785
>I wonder how much legal trouble it causes for imageboard owners
None as long as you actively (usually checking once per day is enough) delete it. Registrars/hosts aren't stupid, they can recognize a misused service and in the worst scenario will send you a mail to take it down in X hours.
Hardest part is giving people a reason to use your site over existing alternatives.

>>48081845
>None as long as you actively delete it
It can be filtered via the software itself and a custom captcha. Sushichan has its own filter and the non-vichan boards I've seen like Otterchan use a custom captcha.
>Hardest part is giving people a reason to use your site over existing alternatives
Anon said he wants to make a themed imageboard and I think that's enough of a reason. It's kinda like having a forum for said thing except in the format of an imageboard. And that's already better than Reddit.

>>48050503
gosh, imageboards and the /jp/sphere is really dead

>>48081924
>It can be filtered via the software itself and a custom captcha
The main CP spam you see on imageboards are only semi-automated. Unless it's a obtrusive captcha for the users too, it doesn't stop it. Also most captchas, at least that I know of are troublesome to set up anyways

>>48062735
The issue is as >>48062575 says, that the rule only prohibits new-4chan lingo, not normalfag lingo (e.g. "bruh") as well. Although one can argue that since new-4chan lingo is bannable because it is "not in line with site culture", ergo any lingo that is "not in line with site culture" is bannable.

Lurking a little seems to suggest to me that most users generally don't write like (modern, anyway) net-normalfags, which is good. I will say the site isn't unique in its attempt at what it's trying to do, but certainly more places with similar, sensible tastes are a good thing. As it is now, hopefully, it will last. Even if it could be argued the users are forcing it ("trying too hard"), even if the old times can never truly be had again.

>>48062575
>Also allowing like 100 pages worth of threads to stay up is really stupid.
What's wrong with this necessarily?

>>48077421
Desuchan was associated with Uboachan in some form.
It shut down without notice in 2021, came back once again without notice earlier this year but seems to be down again, unfortunately...

>>48077624
There's something special about self-hosted communities. It's not just about not relying on someone else's goodwill.

>>48062575
>Also allowing like 100 pages worth of threads to stay up is really stupid.
Why would that make OCfags leave?

>>48081418
not the same bunbunmaru and bantoids are associated
rundown what occurred here: https://bunbunmaru.ca/wakaba/res/299.html#325

>>48082683
>>48081924
>>48081845
>>48080785
>>48078177
What's the point of cp spambots anyway? Competing imageboards? Trolls? FBI? Is there a network of pedos who crawl dead boards like /tv/'s ghost archive?

>>48086782
I see, thanks for the info! Very illuminating. I was unfamiliar with the old /bun/. If I might ask for your opinion, what do you think of the current iteration of the site? Is preserving the name worth it or would you rather see it dead as it's no longer what it once was?
Obviouly culture is always in flux. I don't really like the bant people, but unfortunately very little can be done individually to create an answer to it. The old is dead; some might try to emulate it, some might try to create new things, but I think I'd be at least a little satisfied if people continue using alternative imageboards for the next decade, even if the culture is not the same as it once was and the old people move on. I guess I want to cheer and preserve the life of the format, against the corporate web that obviously dominates outside and the half-hearted attempts at recreating the old web that currently seem to be in vogue.

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>>48085642
It isn't banning everything new or even trying to imitate the old that much. It's just its own thing. A recent discussion in this thread gives good insight on Rule 8
https://img.heyuri.net/q/koko.php?res=67475
In short, users who complain about each and every single popular slang are perceived to be whiny and incapable of taking it easy.
It's kind of outdated but someone made a video about about Heyuri here: https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=C2gseeAmrCN
>>48085811
>Desuchan was associated with Uboachan in some form.
They were just linked with each other. I once asked uboachan's mods about it, they said their management is completely different. Desuchan's admin was still hosting lolibooru until earlier this year but he's now vanished from internet afaik.
>>48088055
>What's the point of cp spambots anyway?
I'm fairly sure it's for financial gains. Maybe they are from a country with lax laws about it

>>48088055
They're russian and get paid for spamming. There's a big thread going into detail about it on trashchan.

>>48090544
>Desuchan's admin was still hosting lolibooru until earlier this year but he's now vanished from internet afaik.
I really hope he returns. If it's related to financial problems he could just ask for donations or whatever. I don't really see anything wrong with that and would contribute for such an old and lovely site.

crying for hima

crying for gnfos

>>48090683
That was very enlightening, I've been seeing it for years on all sort of small and foreign IBs, still skeptical that they actually make any considerable amount of money off it though. But maybe in a poor country like Russia it's enough to be worth the effort.

>>48096172
Yeah, there was a guide written by some underage guy in the 00s about how to monetize this stuff. I think it was for jailbait or something like that, but the "legacy" lives on and the spam that hit 4chan now hits all other imageboards 15 years later.
Certain types like to ascribe a vast international conspiracy to it involving a variety of government agencies that want to destroy a website used by few dozen people to talk about nerd stuff and it really doesn't make any sense.

sama...

I for one prefer textboards

sad bump

>>48062989
I'm fluent in tiktok-flavored normalfagese
ayo man idk what you talkin about i aint no use normie :nerd: speech bro
bro said "normie" :skull: + bro did the jamaican smile :trollface_sigma:

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>>48107957
AYOOO BRO BYPASSED THE TIKTOK FILTER :sobbing_emoji:
I CAN NOT SAY K|II YOURSELF TFFFFF TS INSANE

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I need a fairycentric board

>>48077436
RIP ;_;

>>48110733
Make one anon, I'll be a poster

>>48112553
It came back once so I'm sure a backup exists.

>>48050503
chakai.org, denpachan, crystal cafe, real life, suicide, my philosophy professor's blog's comments section, i don't fucking know.

>>48077421
>>48077624
This. I wish chans dedicated to one specific franchise would make a comeback.The closest we've gotten to that in recent years is the new /azu/ and that Vocaloid imageboard. Outside of those two I can't think of any recent imageboards like that that aren't dead like Seacats, TF2chan and Desuchan or have shifted focus to other things (Ubuu).

>>48113318
What we need is some kind of reborn iichan/wakachan that links them all together.

>>48113318
>that vocaloid imageboard
Never heard of it, is it any good or active?

>>48113957
It's the one op linked and it's as active as Uboachan I guess. As for how good it is, I don't know, seems like 8/miku/ and the /jp/ threads put in a blender.
>>48113331
I would love an iichan revival.

>>48068726
Kakashi Nenpo is comfy

>>48114037
Oh, thanks. Guess I didn't actually check the links.
Yeah, an iichan revival would be good, but after some of the imageboard revivals from the last few years I'd be worried with it falling into the hands of people that quite simply don't care enough about it. I mean, I'd definitely be one of these; I wouldn't have enough time to deal with it.

so called "revivals" are bound to fail. you can't just buy a domain abandoned for a decade, put a vichan on it then claim it's back

>>48117715
of course, but I think most revivals understand that it's not going to be the same thing. I think the suggestion of a new iichan is rather to revive the format than to revive the specific website as a loyal copy.

>>48113143
>denpachan
My disappointment is immeasurable that this isn't a chan focused on DQNposting and denpa media.

>>48090544
>In short, users who complain about each and every single popular slang are perceived to be whiny and incapable of taking it easy.
Oh fuck off. That thread suggests a hell of a lot more than that and you know it. If anything the only thing worth a damn about heyuri is the OC. The site's not unique, not new, and frankly that thread proves the hypocrisy of the staff. You call it "taking it easy~" but that's not what I see. What I see is the inability to admit when they are wrong; post 67502 does not read like the sort of person who is truly taking it easy. It is correct in saying that a lot of faggots don't know old when they see it. However, the inability to understand that words, phrases, and contexts change, and the fact that words that may have been acceptable once (though probably should never have been in the first place, frankly) might not be in the present because of the aforementioned, suggests a that the staff are too foolish, too inept for their position. To better illustrate what I mean, let's consider Pepe and Wojak. Both were generally accepted without issue all across 4chan. But then normalfags picked them up, and despite fools once wanted to keep them, in the end, no one in their right mind wants anything to do with them. Historically, the nobility would drop fads as soon as it became popular among the commons. While this had a sociopolitical reason, to ensure the differentiation between classes, it is worth considering that for those of us who refuse to drop our standards, a similar behavior occurs, and among those who are much too loose, they have no issue. And that latter group becomes indistinguishable from normalfags. And of course the idiot's response to shitposting is to "make it unbearable for the shitposter", i.e. render threads dead for stupid bullshit that ought to just be ignored if the idiot moderation can't be bothered to do their job.

The post that kicked off that shit thread is pretty blatantly normalfaggot language, and the fact that the mods had no issue with it (despite it being a brain-drain style of speech; yet again, why is 4chan mental retardation unacceptable but not normalniggers' form? because it's "mean"? how funny! the very same can be said about normalfag language, and in fact they are one in the same; the Internet of today is a melting pot) is wholly unacceptable. Absolute loathing, I cannot take it easy when I see such blatant contradictions by authority. Heyuri is really just a different brand of poseur from smugloli. An arguably less obnoxious kind, but still poseurs. Fakes wearing a mask in some vain attempt of enjoying times long gone, that they may not have even had anything to do with. The old times are not tenable in the modern age, and don't tell me they aren't just copycats like other hipster post-millennials with their Web 1.0 knock-off sites.

>>48120743
>Historically, the nobility would drop fads as soon as it became popular among the commons
>Fakes wearing a mask in some vain attempt of enjoying times long gone
can you say /jp/ is full of poseurs who like touhou, a franchise that was popular in 2000s which is now ruined by "normalniggers"?
>that they may not have even had anything to do with
by your logic westerners don't have anything to do with otaku culture to begin with either. What are you even in this site/board/thread for?

Touhou was never ruined.
You don't understand his point. Liking another culture is very different from nostalgiafagging for a time period where you were not even alive let alone on the internet.

by his logic both pepe/w*jak and touhou were once 4chan-only things that likes of braindead twitter users adopted, so what makes touhou special over pepe/w*jak?
Similarly if you browse Heyuri, you can see for yourself that all nostalgiafagging is about posting about old anime or old Japanese stuff etc. It otherwise has its own culture and inner jokes, which may or may not resemble old that of some old communities.
In contrast, nostalgiafagging tryhards are the ones who would ban all new speech they and label those using them as normalfags and keep them out, and inevitably have all good users leave for sites with sane moderation

Finally got an adblock, does anyone know which boards of Futaba are best for lurking? I'm using the navigator in the op and at the moment just visiting Touhou Alt

>>48124463
If you just want to see what threads are the most active, use this site.
https://futapo.futakuro.com/ranking/

>>48125795
I meant more in the line of which are the most interesting boards for the anons here, but thanks, that will definitely help too.

>>48125873
Futaba is not like 4chan. There are only 3-4 boards with any sort of activity. All others are complete dead.

>>48117715
At the very least you need the old content fully restored (at least read-only) and the same engine or one made from scratch. And then you still need to sell it to the old userbase, which is the most important and the most difficult part.

On that note, apart from being the worst piece of crap ever from a technical standpoint, vichan is the blandest engine I've ever used.

>>48050679
all of them

>>48131705
me too

>>48113318
Are there any more themed chans still up aside from those mentioned?

>>48050679
I like irc, but I've only been active in one channel before. I have a discord, but I only use it to get information or files that are stuck there.

Is 5ch.net/download like the only place left to discuss japanese piracy?

>>48069657
I am envious of /v/ that they managed to preserve board culture and funposting as much as they suck overall. All because there's no generals.

>>48119369
>DQNposting
How many people in the west "get" that culture? (I don't)

>>48139200
ewww no
/v/ is no model for anything at all
There is no truly good board anywhere but outside of the 3dpd generals /jp/ is pretty good. Other boards of a similar size have at most two tolerable threads.

>>48139255
/jp/'s board culture is dead. /v/ has a board culture even though it just fucking sucks, but there's still a sense of community that spans the entire board.

>>48139277
well that's because of the generals as you said but I don't know how good it is to have a board culture if it's something like /v/ where everything is ragebait and discussion over topics that aren't even related to video games
it's like saying you envy heyuri. Sure, they might have lots of oc and more activity than most other imageboards, but I wouldn't want to ever interact with it or the posters from there. I'd much rather use a dead imageboard with better posters.

/jp/ culture died when toutroons refuse to accept vtumors and 2013 or 2014 something something rulez 4 foolz

>>48139329
>discussion over topics that aren't even related to video games
A part of what used to be good about /jp/ for me was discussing random shit with other /jp/sies sometimes (even though a lot of it was shitposting) you know, bonding with like-minded individuals who share your interests and understand you on personal level more than people who don't. Although nowadays it would probably just degrade into ragebait like you said. I see people complaining about neet threads having gone to shit these days.

>>48139458
yeah, I get it, that was nice. I was referring more to the constant politics/culture war stuff on /v/.
feels like people are way too mad all the time nowadays, /v/ only managed to maintain some sort of culture because they were already all mad all the time

Shitposting is not a culture and /jp/ has always been divided into cliques. Don't pretend anyone but orbiters liked the name and tripfags, that there was massive crossover between Touhou, iDOLM@STER, and Vocaloid threads, that 3DPD child gravure and idol groups were anything other than barely tolerated, and that every single person played MMORPGs and didn't want them off the board along with every other non-Touhou game. Outside of that, there was what, tolling for replies, posting whatever you wanted with a Touhou in the OP, posting wojaks, and being mad whenever mods actually did their jobs until mods stopped doing their jobs and shitposters drove everyone into permanent separate threads.

The only legacy of /jp/ is autistic spam and ritual posts, which has even endured the vtubers. https://warosu.org/jp/reports/image-reposts
Is that what you imagine a unified /jp/ culture as? /v/ but instead of rage comics and constant porn it's autism macros and regurgitated content?

>>48140088
question! why did the to aru images stop being reposted? you almost never see them in modern day /jp/

>>48140545
>question! why did the to aru images stop being reposted?
modern anime became culturally irrelevant as fuck now outside of the yearly fotm show

new imageboard software >>>/g/103079037

>>48140960
What's the point of p2p image board except allowing everyone connected to be spammed with cp simultaneously?

>>48141034
glownigger hands typed this post

>>48141034
see hyphanet/gnunet/i2p

>>48141034
>Anonymous

>>48141034
It's a neat idea, but ultimately this stuff only attracts the political activist types that imagine themselves in active war with all the governments of the world and not hobbyists that just want to take it easy and have fun. You could compare the Japanese Mastodon instances where they share art and talk about food to the Western ones where they plot against culture war enemies and share conspiracy theories and links to various political celebrities. Also, the more hoops people need to jump through the less likely they are to join. If there's a website that requires 2 clicks before you can post and another requires 1 click, then the latter has a substantial leg up. Never underestimate the laziness of a bored person looking for instant gratification. Often the people doing the 2 clicks are doing the 2 clicks because they're not welcome at the 1 click place.
And, as always, the most important part of an imageboard is not the software or anything else technical, but the users. People keep developing new software but it doesn't matter how many times you reinvent the wheel if you don't have anything to attach it to. If developing the software is your hobby, then great, yeah, you can have fun doing that. But it's not the important part.

>>48141344
Wouldn't an extra inconvenience filter out poor quality users? If it's too much for them then maybe they're not the intended demographic and should stick to twitter or reddit which caters to more casual net surfers. People who want what you offer will go to the lengths to get it. And I would rather be on a site with a small but dedicated community than one with a million retards screaming over each other. Fewer users is also fewer people to moderate, and with this concept it seems like it would be much easier to push out undesirables from hobby circles.
But this is just my opinion.

>>48141469
>Wouldn't an extra inconvenience filter out poor quality users?
Nah, spammers care way more about posting than someone who just wanted to make a throwaway comment. Technical requirements might work but someone will make a simplified way anyway.

>Fewer users is also fewer people to moderate, and with this concept it seems like it would be much easier to push out undesirables from hobby circles
Easier to kill it too. All it takes is for a few of them to become friends, then you ban one and all the others leave too. Just properly and consistently enforcing rules and culture while letting butthurts call the mods fags for banning them for refusing to conform is enough for 10 or 10 million.

>>48050503
Imageboard culture is dead. I only use 4chan for hobby discussion now on boards where it is still possible to do so.

>>48141469
Requiring desired users to expend effort will result in reduced gains. It doesn't matter how friendly or dedicated you think they are, people will take the path of least resistance.
For most imageboards the issue isn't getting the ideal user, but any user at all. If your site has an existing community and culture new users can be molded by it and will assimilate into becoming a desired and valued member. It's an entirely natural and even involuntary process since our brains are wired to do it. Expecting perfection from them right away is the road to failure.

>>48142624
rip

>>48118827
This. Linking chans together would help keep them alive.

Would this count as an imageboard https://rentalbbs.shitaraba.com/? I have been seeing the lists anon posted and I could not find it.

>>48155127
Where are the images?

>>48155127
This is simply a text board hosting service, those were and still are popular in Japan I think. You can embed one into your website

>>48155342
Same anon, this one seems a bit different though

>>48050679
never looked into xmpp, but i use the other three

>>48153935
what boards would a modern iichan even have

Does anyone know what's the state of wizchan?

>>48068726
How is kissu "too /a/" exactly? It's for the most part a 2D/Random site; no battle shounen generals and funposting won't get you banned.

>>48167725
nta but it's quite obvious how kissu is too /a/
it's not something easy to put into words but it's completely different from /jp/ style imageboards

>>48167725
>>48169205
I thought kissu.moe as mixture of /qa/ /jp/ and /a/. smugloli.net is /a/.
>/jp/ style imageboards
What do you consider a /jp/ imageboards?

>>48086782
Now this is just bizarre, it’s pretty clear none of these posters were on the old /bun/, and probably not even old /jp/ for that matter, but I don’t understand why they would try to pretend to be a revival of /bun/. It’s not like there was much of a userbase left too, at least last time I visited in 2019 or so, so it’s even more obvious it’s a bunch of people who came from somewhere else and are using the /bun/ name for whatever reason.

>>48169830
>What do you consider a /jp/ imageboards?
The spinoffs, obviously. Well, at least like they were sometime ago, don't know about most of them nowadays.
And yeah kissu is a bit of a mix but I don't feel it is similar to /jp/ at all. Not that it is bad, just that it is different. And probably even more different to modern day /jp/, now that I think about it.

Apparently, lowercase posters are oldfags now.

>>48175258
O RLY?
I never understood the friction for this lowercase/uppercase thing. It's more of a symptom than a cause. On imageboards it's the general-ification thing when something starts to mutate into more of a blogging chat room instead of topical discussion. Lowercase posters can be fine outside of that environment, and capitalization posters can be just as inane if that's what they're posting.

>>48187242
Very kissu style post.

>>48050503
the third site is dead

>>48050503
>not on the list
heh my altchan is still safe

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>>48082683
>Also most captchas, at least that I know of are troublesome to set up anyways
Having a captcha framework that lets you develop your own minigame in order to post would be neat. Like, in order to post you have to score x or higher on this song or you get banned for a week

>>48192811
Unless solving it lets you post for a week, you'd get 0 users pretty damn quick.

>>48193229
Well of course. The reason captchas are so simple is because they are designed to be spammed for every post. Solving an hard captcha should give you a token that lets you post for a certain amount of time decided by the admin. Another more involved captcha could be drawing of kanji and measuring the accuracy of the strokes. I would add community trivia answering to the mix but anything that can be done easily through AI is easily solved nowadays

>>48193283
So, how would this stop spammers again? Spend a couple hours playing a game and then are able to spam for days

>>48194496
That's supposed to deter bots and newfags
>spam for days
On an unmoderated image board yeah sure. No matter how hard the captcha is, dedicated spammer will always be there. Having a robust captcha isn't an excuse to leave your image board without moderation.
The recently implemented anti spam cooldown did help lowering the amount of spam this websites receives. Browse actively raided boards like /vg/ and you can genuinely tell the difference. The problem is that dedicated spammers will never go away so all you can do is mitigate the problem to lower the burden on your moderation team. Arguing that we shouldn't employ mitigation tools because they don't actually fix the problem only makes spammer's life easier

>>48050503
animu bunker and webring still around?

Some months ago I ditched english sites and now all I read is a thread filled with crazy people on a Japanese BBS. While thinking about that, I remembered /jp/ and came here to blog. Not sure if I became super weird or if everywhere including altchans just became sort of normie and boring. Even in 2014 /jp/ was maybe weirder on average (in a good way) than any place on the clearnet in 2024

>>48050503
>hikari3.ch
I now have a new favourite channel, thank you, OP

>>48201843
of course, it still sucks though
>>48203286
Massive demographic change happened. Doesn't help that 80% of posts on this board is braindead general spam.

>>48203286
>>48204921
It's also the regular 4chan users of old who grew up and got boring.
You have to start doing the adulting (yes, I used a reddit word for a reason here) at some point in your life even when you're a neet. It changes you and drains your energy to post.

>>48206287
It's similar to 4 teenagers who form a metal band and pretend to be all rebellious, but 3/4 of them will eventually become normal, mainstream-opinion-supporting members of society who only joined the band for fun, while the last guy was always more serious than the rest, and he never becomes normal.

>You have to
Not really. Obviously you won't die if you never become normal, but every little quirk of yours gets magnified, and the normal stuff disappears. You get pale, bug-eyed, have a weird expression on your face, look in a mirror 30 times a day, buzz your head to look like julius caesar, use masturbation to enter a hypnagogic state, etc. It's a shame but the adult world stratifies us like this. You have to chose one path or the other.

>>48206593
Even if you don't turn normal, one day you find yourself having to take care of your parents or something. There are factors outside of your control that take your time to post away.
Also, most people in their 30s don't even keep the same interests they had in their teenage years. It is completely reasonable to think that some of the original otaku oldfags got interested in politicts as they grew up to the point of becoming those annoying /pol/ types as depressing as it sounds.

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>>48050503
You forgot
• wapchan.org
>>48077421
>>48132967
wapchan is sorta themed around urusei yatsura

>>48207471
>There are factors outside of your control that take your time to post away.
How much time you have to post doesn't really matter (though it correlates).

I hate using sites filled with old people because 9 out of 10 humans just stop growing mentally by age 28. Actually, for most men the sexual drive is 1:1 with how much passion they have as a human being because sex is their reason to live. So once their sexual drive is sated and they get the chick, they're basically empty husks of a human being. And ironically a 40 year old virgin often has more fire in him than a 25 year old who's been going steady with some Christian chick from summer camp for years. In that sense, it's regrettable we have vtubers and anime to pacify all the otaku of the world. That's human passion just wasted on a placebo.

Someone who bases his life around women will generally have a mediocre life, because women themselves are uninteresting. Sadly this is a good 80% of men. But in their desperation and loneliness, they can still do amazing things -- if by accident. This includes the 4chan '08 crowd. It's redirected sexual energy for the VAST majority. Disagree if you like, but then tell me why men become incredibly boring once they're romantically satisfied.

>>48209380
>Someone who bases his life around women will generally have a mediocre life, because women themselves are uninteresting.
are you saying homosexuality is based? might aswell post this instead of that high iq excerpt https://www.tastyfish.cz/lrs/woman.html
faggot

>>48209758
Because you're a slave to your penis, you will no longer do anything of interest once you get a mate. Better are those who desire fame, money, and power, and still better are those who desire knowledge, who turn away from women and men. You're essentially a breeding sow of the human race; nature had no other plans for you, and your life will be mediocre unless you take great pains to make it otherwise.

>>48203286
You're under the assumption that if someone isn't blogging about how unusual and special their life is that they must be normal. I have to disagree.
Something that should be obvious on /jp/ then and now is the allure, if not outright necessity, of escapism and keeping things separate. Reading about people's troubled lives is far closer to gossip than otaku culture if you ask me. Seeing the trajectory that the internet has taken, the person that doesn't endlessly talk about themselves is the odd one out.

>>48141469
>Wouldn't an extra inconvenience filter out poor quality users?
I highly suggest you look at /a/ or any other hyperfast board that you have any experience with right now, and tell me if it's significantly worse, worse, the same, better, or significantly better after phoneposters were essentially banned. It ain't much better, I'll tell you that much.
>>48207471
While your political example pretty much majorly only applies to the American's on this board, as they're the ones who're far more obsessed with that stuff in terms of ratio to basically anyone else I've encountered in my life, so someone can in fact tell me how I'm retarded with their own experiences if that makes them feel better... but regardless you definitely do have a point that a lot of people will have their interests and taste change over the years. This time 20 years ago I was a squeaker shitting up CS lobbies and ERPing in some MMO but I haven't so much as touched an MMO in well over a decade or played any FPS even semi-seriously for that long either. I've touched a few for 5-6 hours here and there but neither of those genres are cornerstones of my life like they used to be. Change applies to everyone, unlike the anon who believes staying a virgin keeps you in an eternal stasis of patrician taste or whatever the hell he's babbling on about.

>>48209758
Amusing wiki, thanks anon.

>>48210828
Fair enough. But if you're really passionate about anything, you quickly reach the end point of knowledge on topic X, and as you get older you continue learning more about topic X, while everyone else continues to have the same amount of knowledge, so by the time you're an adult everyone else feels apathetic and boring. And every conversation you have is mostly explaining stuff the other party doesn't know yet. I don't read threads about topic X anymore because I already know how it's gonna go. You know what I mean, right?

>>>/g/103167023

>>48212747
>I LOVE YOU LADAR LEVISON
Fuck, it's over.

How to post on 2chan as a foreigner?
Do you need a residential IP?

>>48206287
>You have to start doing the adulting (yes, I used a reddit word for a reason here) at some point in your life even when you're a neet. It changes you and drains your energy to post.
That’s intentional. You can’t figure out what’s wrong and change things if you’re spending all your time working chasing money.
Think about all those normalfags who consume media as a way to unwind, not for its own merit.
Money isn’t even real anymore, as an insult to injury.
It’s not that much different from working for ration slips.

>>48209380
Have you seen the Jungle Book? The ending is Mowgli leaving behind "barbaric" and "puerile" nature to live in human society, human society with slavery and crime and all its evils. What a joke.
And in the second movie he rebels against this but it’s a girl who convinces him to slip back into his ball and chain.
It’s the theme of the wild man becoming domesticated and tamed for integration with, allah forgive me for uttering this, soivilization.

Work bad
Money bad
Girl bad
Society bad
Look at meme on internet good

>>48203286
What places are interesting on the darkweb? I've tried lurking maybe once, but imageboards were mostly dead and half of the recent posts were like cp and russian drug users.

>>48213704
Most people actually hate freedom. If someone like >>48214224 becomes free he panics and immediately looks for someone else to serve

can someone explain how to post on jpnkn when youre using siki browser?

>>48215323
This one thinks he is free while depending on others for food, clothing, shelter, and entertainment. Only those who are at the top of society or completely outside it are free. 4chan, social media in general, and the pursuit of luls are shackles just the same.

>>48216348
>Only those who are at the top of society or completely outside it are free.
Basically this. Anon's can bitch and cry about how much better they are than anyone else because they actually like and care about the things they consume (a word I use explicitly) and kept their vows to become a wizard, but if anything that makes them more whipped than any wagie by virtue of the fact that they think they're not. Unless your daddy mined diamonds in Siberia or some shit and you've never worked a day in your life, with a mansion and maids to wipe your ass for you, you're as much of a slave to society as anyone else. But then again, anon claiming "money isn't real" won't post his credit card information here so that's just all posturing from someone who wants to feel like he's above normalfags, when in reality the only people above them are those who don't even give them a second thought rather than this constant need for self-validation.

Also I don't know why this philosophical "debate" about society is happening in a thread about altchans. I mean, I do, it's because whenever altchans get mentioned things usually go to shit after a time, but this specific conversation is relatively strange.

>>48206287
>You have to start doing the adulting even when you're a neet.
Do you really? I'm a 28 year old neet and I don't feel like I've been "adulting".

>>48220005
>anon claiming "money isn't real" won't post his credit card
He's talking about the gold standard going away, duh

>this specific conversation is relatively strange.
Meh, I saw all my long-time imageboard friends turn into boring NPCs. It's a convo worth having!

>>48220801
The gold standard hasn't been a thing since before our fathers were born. Likely grandfathers too. As for the other half, well, I would get the point if I didn't curate my friend group pretty well to just a handful of folks I play vidya with every now and then. Everyone I met through the jay either killed themselves, fucked off from the internet, or were never really part of the jay at all, though I don't really see the problem with the last one anymore.

What era do the spinoffs seek to emulate anyway? Old /jp/sies were /a/ and /v/ exiles and old /b/ oldfags. 2010-2014 /jp/ was pure shitposting with little to nothing to do with the idea of /jp/ also /fit/ and /sp/ memes everywhere. After that most old /jp/ had migrated to /vg/ or /r9k/ depending if they were here for Japanese content or to post about their feels. Or you know, killed themselves/forced out of their NEETcaves into the streets. Now it's mostly 3D and vtubers left, except the die hards that are happy with their threads.

Someone should make an image board for /jp/ modded games to play together

>>48223220
There is a new spin-off in the works RIGHT NOW.

>>48223220
/qa/ also used to be a /jp/sie hideout for a while before the mods screwed them over.

I have seen nothing that matches the quality of imageboards years ago. Its a shame, really, but when something finally does pop up yet again it'll be exciting.

>>48225891
/qa/ screwed itself over because they couldn't stop being schizo.

I was wondering recently, are there still any non-listed public boards on 4chan? What about on the alts?

>>48226074
/qa/ died because the jannies are niggers who couldn't tolerate /lgbt/ getting 'jakked. I'm serious.

>>48226074
>are there still any non-listed public boards on 4chan?
Public? No. But there's still some boards under lock and key, mostly admin stuff. As for alts pretty much the entire point of them would go against having a lock and key board except for a /vip/-like.
>>48225933
It won't happen. The internet has changed in a core way. I'm not really a huge /g/head when it comes to believing in the web1 web2 web3 web-whatever-the-fuck-we're-on-now stuff even if its a technically accurate term, maybe because I only started caring about the internet in 2001 and only started truly understanding it years later. But the point is that the way things are have, to some major degrees that I can't verbalize, changed.

The closest comparison I could think of would be that the internet and forums/boards at that time were akin to a mall. A snapshot of civilization, or at least a part of it, and as the years grew on it kinda faded away... though I suppose the 'net will never truly fade away like how most malls are ghost towns now.

And bringing it back to VIP (not /vip/ though it's what reminded me of it), I do wish both we and the japanese still had those cross-cultural exchanges of making vidya or other kinds of stuff. VIP Mario as far as I know is a dying breed, and I know VIPRPG's are still a thing but they never really reached a splash on this side of the shore plus they're very hard to define. I'm sure one of the guys making those threads would be able to enlighten me on a rundown on what they really are but that's not really the point I'm trying to make here.

>>48226074
Unlisted boards? There's still /trash/...
On altchans many of them do have it. Just yesterday I found out about one on an imageboard I had been visiting for more than a year...
The world is full of secret boards, after all.

>>48226681
/trash/ is unlisted now? Huh, guess I was wrong in my big ass writeup then.

>>48226074
Uboachan has something like 8 or 9 unlisted boards, but I don't remember their names.

>>48226074
I'm not talkinga bout when /qa/ got shut down, I was referring to the 2D/Random era /qa/ getting screwed over by mod-approved wojak spam.

>>48226074
>/qa/ screwed itself over because they couldn't stop being schizo.
Oh my sweet summer child...

>>48226696
/melon/ and /purarara/ are two of them, was not aware there were more
>>48226685
>now
it has always been a hidden board

/gen/ on nen

>>48212536
>I don't read threads about topic X anymore because I already know how it's gonna go. You know what I mean, right?

I guess it depends on the subject. I think the character threads that have been a /jp/ staple for a decade are something people tire of since they don't change, yeah, true.
But, in my view a train otaku would love talking about trains endlessly to anyone that would listen, including children who know nothing or even inanimate dolls.
The generic monocultural "shitpost" culture that permeates so much of the internet today is the thing I have no patience for, but people showing genuine interest in something is not something I tire of. The primary value 4chan has to me is that its sheer numbers allow extra niche subjects to be discussed, when it's unreliable on smaller imageboards. Of course, it being modern 4chan you do need to filter out a lot of noise.
You do generally have to accept that other people aren't going to have the same deep interest in specific things, especially if they're otherwise similar to you value-wise. To put it in /jp/ terms, a VN reader and Touhou fanatic can still participate in threads together even if they can't bond over the latest official Touhou manga chapter or a specific early 2000s VN. I think a healthy community has heavy overlap and the VN people would be browsing the 2hu threads just to see what others are talking about. That's how people find new hobbies and entertainment, after all. This is probably one of the things that 4chan lacks the most these days with so much compartmentalization, but I think everyone already knows and agrees with that.

>>48224596
Proof?

>>48235135
Preparing CSS and a rules page, please wait warmly.

>>48213143
Also curious about this.

There's just not enough people willing to post on altchans

There's just not enough people willing to chat on IRC

>>48230835
>The generic monocultural "shitpost" culture that permeates so much of the internet today is the thing I have no patience for, but people showing genuine interest in something is not something I tire of.
Seeing a post this genuine and sane on this website feels like a drink in a desert. I fucking hate shitpost/irony poisoning more than anything else, I want people to be honest about what they like.

>>48236252
This website created it. Most discord servers are full of that shit or just have dedicated shitposting channels, it's everywhere.

>>48230835
The challenge nowadays is that if you want people to care about your interests, it feels like you have to whore them out, cut them up, bake them, and put them on a stick so people that don't know the thing at all will take a (brief) passing interest in it. Like, even though this place isn't driven by a top-down algorithm, deep down it has similar dynamics to Youtube or Twitter where you gotta appeal to the masses now to get by. And this definitely wasn't the case 10+ years ago. Because back then, the fact something was obscure, niche, or inaccessible was actually a positive to many users on the site. Once upon a time you were a cool dude if you knew about LSD dream emulator, because there was no Tiktok or Youtube shorts promoting cool rare things, you had to care to find this stuff. And 4chan was a place where connoisseurs of cool, rare things originally pooled together.

Hell, until very recently I still tried to use 4chan in that way, promoting my deep interests. But people don't care anymore. It was funny too, because whenever I said something fascinating I'd get replies like "Wow that was interesting. Do you have more?" as if I'm a goddamn youtuber lol. Like I get 4-5 comments saying they enjoyed reading it, but nobody wants to know more, no one asks for sources, or calls me out on anything I got wrong. The internet has taken on a strange dynamic where anyone who has passion or vitality actually does a thing, and then chews up and regurgitates it into the mouths of 1000s of baby birds who are apathetic and view that passion as a commodity replaceable with nigh on anything else. You can make money off them, but this is time that could go into actually enjoying what you like instead of monetizing it.

Lately I stopped socializing at all for a number of days and began to go mildly crazy. You gotta suck it up and find common ground, I guess.

>>48238259
You can't be a pioneering hipster AND have deep conversations about your unknown topics you refuse to elaborate on.

This is so real
https://www.adultswim.com/videos/infomercials/wormholes

>>48239330
>have deep conversations about your unknown topics you refuse to elaborate on.
But I do elaborate. I've written dozens of high effort posts about stuff I like hoping to get people hooked, but all people ever say is "Wow that was interesting". And this isn't only a 4chan problem. I made a Youtube channel with the premise of drumming up interest in a lot of different topics, but all I got was people going "Sweet, another ___ upload!" or "It's been 2 months, where are you? :(". The upside is you will eventually find the handful of guys who give a shit if you keep going. Those hardcore actual fans used to be the main population of sites like 4chan, but now they're a minority. That's why it's tough.

>>48050503
Kind of a technical question but what is the tech used for the backend of an image board? You are essentially storing posts on a database and exposing the necessary endpoints to read and post said info. I was thinking of making my own text board as dev exercise using java and mongodb

>>48239764
I may see this Youtube channel?

>>48239816
No, the channel is garbage. But I wrote this for example
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/23475908#p23476084

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>>48050679
>irc
Yup, have been since I got into imageboards, and frequent two-three channels at any time.
>XMPP
Completely missed it
>matrix
on-and-off, though it has been awhile
>discord
Unironically use it for local community for people my age

http://tohno-chan.com/
old /a/ split still kicking around

>>48240006
anon you are not supposed to post actually good imgaeborad

>>48240006
oh my gyate you stupid tranny fruitynigger gayro axewound

>>48240094
>stupid
we say baka here

>>48239971
Damn, I never have had interest in aesthetics until now. Do you recommend any books, blogs, publications, or online museums to learn more about asian, and especially, chinese aesthetics?

I didn't quite understand the part about how the japanese reject the notion that humans can innovate their own sense of beauty. Were you trying to say that the japanese are basing their art on a concrete material beauty which limits what they can create leading to a lack of innovation which is why they resort to perfecting what's already been done before? As compared to the chinese who use their art to be a manifestation of an abstract beauty?Also, I don't see how idols is considered a small art.

>>48241763
I like Etienne Balazs' work on China quite a bit, very approachable. Asia in general is all about the eyes though, seeing is better than reading.

>Were you trying to say that the japanese are basing their art on a concrete material beauty which limits what they can create leading to a lack of innovation which is why they resort to perfecting what's already been done before?
Material, no. They just believe that our limits are clearly defined by nature, and so they don't strive to outcompete nature, because you're not going to create something more beautiful than a piece of wood aged just right, or the flowers that grow by your pond and so on. Japanese architecture is sort of bashful in this way, in that they opt for plain designs and simple geometry juxtaposed against very fine materials which degrade very beautifully, in acquiescence to nature, as if to say "Here we yield". And it's because they believe in these natural laws that artisans can do the same thing for 50+ years and not go crazy.

>Also, I don't see how idols is considered a small art.
Idols, not アイドル. You know, little wooden or stone statuettes.

>>48240006
I'm not depressed enough for Tohno.

>>48240006
Wondering if the guy running it still visits 4chan

>>48243125
if you actually browse you can find out

>>48050679
>>48077927
>>48239987

Fuck Discord and Jason CItron.
Discord is spyware: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html
https://privacy.commonsense.org/privacy-report/Discord---Talk-Chat--Hangout
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004957991-Your-Discord-Data-Package

Discord also doesn't comply with GDPR.

With the wealth of options available, why in the hell would anyone choose to use Discord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Z-WvK6ELs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU

Use Matrix instead.
https://matrix.org/try-matrix/
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/matrix-quickstart-guide.html

>>48246259
>why in the hell would anyone choose to use Discord
Because talking in an empty room is pointless. Get real nigger

>>48246267
talk to a full room then. you can do it on matrix. using shitcord is not necessary

>>48246410
post a room with /jp/sies then nigger

>>48246410
So what does one do when one is in a group of skilled but technically indifferent people who need a chat program to coordinate around for a project you care about?

Take my word on one thing: if the others are used to using things based on network effect over privacy concerns, like most people, don't care if you can set it up with everyone UNLESS it isn't something new for them to remember. As in they'd prefer to have discord integrated with their matrix account for convenience, and would find the lack of it a non-starter for matrix.

Someone make an IRC channel already. No need for pisscord or gaytrix.

>>48247645
we have rizon

>>48247661
Ah, so we do. Never realized.

>>48247353
/g/jp/sies should add and chat with each other ((((((epic things VILL happen))))))

There’s currently a discussion on 22chan about adding more boards focused on specific niches or hobbies, if anyone wants to give their two cents https://22chan.org/b/3531/#3727

>>48247645
the hidden irc /qa/bal

>>48226074
underb& wojakkers != al/qa/eda

>>48216348
>This one thinks he is free while depending on others for food, clothing, shelter, and entertainment.
Engaging in free trade with other agents isn’t slavery. I don’t know why so many people repeat this like it was some kind of epic own against “le recluses”.
Trade is only communication by another form. You are FREE to trade or not just like you are FREE to post here or not. There is no obligation. You are totally sovereign in trade.
Working for [ORGANIZATION] IS slavery. You are beholden to [ORGANIZATION] and must conform yourself to its whims and will. You must live by its rules.

>>48220005
>why
It’s because that poster made the meta commentary about the System™. Let’s leave it here because I only wanted to counter the tired irrational spiel about how because it’s admittedly difficult to totally extricate yourself from the System you should surrender your autonomy completely and become another generic normalfag cattle.

>>48253027
No one is forcing you to get or keep a job. [ORGANIZATION] is trading its money for your time and you are FREE to leave.

>>48250147
I appreciate, but I think the argument was for more sites wholly dedicated to the niche interests. Anyone could go to 8moe right now and create a /seihou/, but that doesn't mean anyone would care, or that it would foster any kind of community.
To be fair I believe the community must precede the imageboard, although far too often people want the opposite to happen. I don't really participate in much internet discussion beyond Touhou in /jp/, but there were times I was in a thread in /a/ and wished to continue talking about a certain anime without having to necrobump or make pseudogenerals there (these always lead to problems.) I think a great example of a niche imageboard would be /azu/. Well, it's not very active, but that isn't really the point. I'd like to have boards that I can forget for a day or two and only come visit occasionally when there's an update or some nice piece of fanart, but I guess most people nowadays dislike slow discussion and get bored of any website where they can't get a reply in less than six hours.
Anyway, I checked 22chan the other day and didn't like it very much, but I guess I'll give it another try. It does seem to have a nice level of activity at least.

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>>48254811
>but I guess most people nowadays dislike slow discussion and get bored of any website where they can't get a reply in less than six hours.
If you're trying to have fun, then fast sites usually are more fun.
If you're trying to learn something cool, well... You used to see random, long posts here from dudes who are neck-deep in their passion, poking their heads out like moles now & then to share all the fascinating stuff they learned. Those dudes are on X and discord these days. Meanwhile, 2024 IB/BBS users are 素人 in most of their hobbies. But if IBs are so boring, then why am I still here? Logically, if X and discord are more passionate (which they are), they should be better. But I visited all those places and there was no spark, while even in shitty modern IBs there's still a faint ember. So what is that ember...?

Imageboard culture was like a social movement, and felt deep and meaningful to me for years. As if all of us had dealt with the same hypocritical, judgmental bullshit in real life, and we decided we were all tired of it, so imageboards became this escape where we could make our own rules and things would turn out differently. It sounds silly to say, but there used to be real magic in the air, like when you heard stories of people moving in together, secret santa, meetups, going to Japan etc. and you felt like "Huh is this actually happening...?" I remember so vividly certain winters 10-15 years ago where it seemed like this dream was becoming reality, and on some /a/ watchalongs, /v/ speedrun threads, and music streams the connection was so powerful none of us wanted it to end. Especially on /a/. Sometimes a guy would randomly pour his heart out saying how much it meant to him, and it wasn't weird because we all felt it. Then it died.

It's like the ending of that novel, Kokoro. Where the meaningful days are over, and the intensity and freshness of life are gone. I often sit around and wonder what to do, because it's like nothing matters anymore. For me, I suppose the answer is scientific research. But I hope everyone from that time finds something to dream about. The lesson is not to give up on dreaming, but to channel that idealism just as hard somewhere else, and keep dreaming until you die. I know this is unrelated to your post. Sorry

>>48256432
>Those dudes are on X and discord these days
Yeah this is the worst. This is the fucking worst. I hate these personal chats so fucking much. I understand that imageboard interaction can get quite a bit cliquey as well. But discord is so much worse. I fucking hate it that everyone seems to be there. I get it that normal people feel better in large groups. But I wish more people would leave their knowledge out in the open, without requiring communication in closed chats. I guess knowledge distribution was always like this, but I still would like to believe that information wants to be free.
>Imageboard culture was like a social movement
very true, but it only was big because it was in a small pond. It was definitely more relevant than today, but I think it's time to recognize that imageboards were a technology of changing times, that thrived in a particular set of circumstances that don't exist anymore. That does not mean they can't be successful anymore or that all will die, but that imageboard culture you spoke of can never be revolutionary again. It has lost its moment. Some will obviously preserve it; many because of nostalgia, and some, like h*yuri, that never even lived through it. But at the moment I can't see it ever having that same spark again. Modern social media is just corporate stuff, an obvious development perhaps.
I have tried to think a lot about how imageboards can succed today, and even whether succeeeding is a thing that most imageboard dwellers want. I'm not sure.
>I know this is unrelated to your post. Sorry
Don't worry, it's very related. It's the same feeling... I wouldn't even call it unique, there's a lot of people complaining about the modern state of the internet for years now. People used to have special interactions. Now it's just an extension of real life, a quip I've heard too many times.
But I can't disagree with it. Imageboards! They were magical, I'm sure of it. People loved them, people talked about them, people made it their passion.
I was elsewhere at the time. I am no better than the people I criticize. But I still had fun with the internet. I still have some fun with /jp/ today, which is more than what I could say for the rest of the internet.

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>>48256553
It's all ending, man. I don't wanna be here for whatever comes next.

>>48256944
>It's all ending, man.
Perhaps it is the big end of a cycle. Perhaps it being the big end means that we of the old age won't be around for the next one. Can imageboards survive?
>I don't wanna be here for whatever comes next.
I sincerely wish you and as many of the other good people of /jp/ will still be here to make it all worthwile.
It might be bad, but real life is still more depressing to me. Real life didn't get better and the internet just got worse. What a world.

This is probably one of the only good threads on /jp/ for years now so please don't let it die...

>>48259689
Removing marked for deletion (old) was the biggest mistake 4chan ever made. Learn to let things go.

>>>/g/103232010
>>>/wsg/5737851

>>48263274
I can finally upload my obs remuxes without re-encoding first..

>>48203286
If you want weird, peruse the onahole thread

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Look, I am quite simply not a big fan of mp4s.

The mp4 thing is kind of interesting. 4chan still has filesize limits that block you from sharing most things, but it will be good for tiktok and twitter reposts since they presumably have filesize limits of their own. It kind of reminds you of the target demographic and makes me feel old. I've seen imageboards have filesize limits of 200mb or more so 4chan's 4MB limit really stands out. Obviously 4chan has 5000x more people so it's a bit understandable.

>>48236252
>Seeing a post this genuine and sane on this website feels like a drink in a desert
Browse other imageboards! Sincerity is more common on them since there isn't years of baggage of people taking the internet hate machine thing seriously. The ol' monkey ladder thing.

>>48270348
>I've seen imageboards have filesize limits of 200mb or more
I still don't get why people have the urge to upload entire movies to an image board instead of just sharing a torrent or something.

>>48256432 (You)
I really wonder what happened to the old /jp/sies and /a/nons. During the 2010s people joked that all those guys roped and it's why you don't see them anymore, but... did they just get jobs and wives and stuff? Maybe I'm crazy for being still here. And dumb for not dealing with these feelings back in 2014 or 2017, when there were still people around who remembered. It wouldn't be so bad if the outside world stayed the same, but it only got 10x worse. There are times I really don't know what to do. In the old indian religion, they said the holiest man was the one who starved himself to death, not out of depression or pain, but apathy, because he had his fill of this world. I too sometimes feel like going out and walking until I run out of food. It's not only because of /jp/ or whatever. I've just been bored for a long time.

>>48270820
200mb is a bit excessive, true, but I think it mainly prevents people from needing knowledge of conversion processes. Like for 4chan you need to know how to compress, get the right codec format thing, remove the audio channel, and lower the quality enough to get it under the filesize limitation, and until now also needed to convert it to webm. The more barriers there are the less likely people are to do something, although in this regard it just means easier reposting from social media.

server disk space is precious you know

>>48276466
Well, I just used webm for dummies and didn't personally have to worry about details to that degree. It's about as much finagling as it took to watch videos at all back in the day with quicktime and mpg and wmv and rmvb and then early mkv.

Not having to convert to webm is good though.

Thoughts? on https://sheepishpatio.net/

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>>48240006
Oh, look, it's down.

>>48277053
I am not able to enjoy forums in this format anymore ever since I found out about chan-like boards

>>48277061
Werkz on mein apparatus

>>48277053
go back to buying ads
faggot

>>48277053
feels kinda tranny

>>48277053
I don't like having a name attached to my posts.

>>48207492
only good board itt

>>48277291
no it's not wap SUCKS and anon.cafe is gone

>>48277307
what is actually wrong with wap?
>cool css
>active admin
>unique ish boards
>has a radio
>threads aren't just low quality spam like other /a/ spinoffs

>>48277312
>tranny css
>subjective
>unique ish boards that get removed after sometime (shelters or >>/crt/ migration at /br/)
>radio is youtube rips, not in high fidelity or flac streams
>subjective
>discord

>>48277343
>/br/
>remembers the /crt/ migration
an oldfag, wow.
>discord
basically dead and only has one channel
might want to post your criticism to the meta board - though i don't know what qualifies as "tranny css"

>>48277053
Looks alright i guess but its not an imageboard

https://rottingangels.org/home.html

Recently launched imageboard I caught wind of from Wapchan. Goes for a 2000s imageboard theme similar to something like Heyuri, with more of a focus on other subjects than Anime.
It has a interesting layout and a surprising amount of activity for only being around for a week or so, but seems to have tapered off. Interested to see if it goes anywhere.

>>48279025
Looks like shit.

>>48279025
The only interesting thing is the extreme sports board.
See, this could easily be a drugs + extreme sports board, with MAYBE a random/meta board and it would barely make a difference. They already link to 39chan so the Miku board is superfluous, and I don't get the need for the generic anime and video games boards. These could easily be discussed only on the random board while keeping only the boards for the topics that are rare elsewhere on the imageboard sphere.
As it stands I have no interest on extreme sports or drugs and neither do I want to discuss anime and cartoons with people that do these, so it's not very interesting to me. I do wish it success, but once again the board bloat must not be doing it any favours. Might want to add a /jp/ for the lulz if they already went so far, then I'll come take a look.

What 5ch, futaba, jpnkn, etc. boards do you guys frequent on the japanese net?

>>48279025
This is better than heyuri just for the fact that it's not heyuri but i agree with what >>48280083 said

what is wrong with heyuri?

>>48286731
There's two issues I'm aware of.
The first is pretty silly, but I think people find it a bit strange that kids are roleplaying as the 00s internet. It's harmless, but people do find it weird.
The other issue is that the staff had/have connections to the wojak imageboard which made it a habit to raid and kill other imageboards, notably 1chan and desuchan, while attempting to kill many more. It's understandably very difficult to like someone that wants to wipe out the websites you enjoy.

>>48292121
That's what killed desuchan? I thought the admin just gave up on it

>>48292121
You're misleading, Heyuri admins contacted desuchan to offer free hosting when it was facing troubles (notably with its certificate) too, but its admin said he could keep hosting itself. And the guy with wojak connections isn't even around anymore
>>48292758
you are right, the timeline is:
1- Website has tons of technical issues for years
2- Basedjak imageboard raids it
3- One janitor that's still around cleans it
4- Site goes down for a long time
5- It briefly "comes back" online but the admin can't figure out how to solve an issue that breaks posting (or claims so), also old archive is gone
6- Site goes offline again, seemingly for good with admin's other sites (patchouli uploader and lolibooru)

I remember 1chan was raided and wiped too, but that was cleaned as well - the site still going down not so long after

>>48292758
He did give up on it, but if nothing had happened then there wouldn't have been any requirement for him to do anything and it could have stayed what was effectively an archival board that got 2 posts a year. I think it came back briefly, but it wasn't to last. It might have been read-only at that point. Lolibooru itself died at some point, which was where I saw the comments from the guy (he was the admin there too) so I'm not sure if he can be contacted anywhere these days as I don't use social media.
If it's clear that someone has mostly moved past administrating a place then any effort at all is a huge hassle, so he just directed his energy elsewhere, whatever it may be.

>>48292966
>lolibooru
Fuck. So that's why I couldn't access it anymore

>>48292966
>patchouli uploader
oh i think i seen this being used on /jp/ /r9k/ and heyuri

>>48292121
larp and kuz connection

>>48293540
say anything you want to about kuz connection, but I think it's unfair to call it a larp. It's not even old internet focused anymore, unless you think banning some stuff like wojaks is larping. I'll just link this post from a recent discussion there:
https://img.heyuri.net/q/koko.php?res=67726#p67753
the whole thread is worth reading if you're curious about site's culture.

>>48271741
>did they just get jobs and wives and stuff?
Most people eventually do, even the truNEETs.

>>48281688
I only browse /download/ but it's depressingly dead since japanese p2p fell out of fashion and japanese people stopped sharing their own rips.

Is there a place 2chan threads are archived after they're wiped from ftbucket?

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>>48292966
>lolibooru
cant believe it's down for this bullshit, i thought it was some major nasty censorshit crap.

>>48297524
It probably was, the events of desuchan and lolibooru aren't related. It's just a sign the admin is likely gone for good this time.

what if elon musk buys 4chan from hiromoot

>>48301425
Massive influx of twitter tourists.
The moderation team is going to change completely.
Might introduce some more drastic verification measures.
The "anime website" pretense of an image hiro still upholds gets ditched completely.

>>48301425
This shit hole deserves to die with whatever is left of its dignity

>>48303081
I imagine most nsfw boards + /y/ /u/ /cm/ /trash/ /lgbt/ /r9k/ and [s4s] getting removed

>>48301425
/pol/ would become the only board on the site and there'd be even more ads for 4chan passes than there currently is

This is probably going to be seen as inflammatory but it is a legitimate question: what stops a small altchan from not just being a Discord or just a more fractured general? The beauty of chans is that you can have people come in and out making topics on whatever, but the more hyper-focused or hidden chans don't exactly get new blood, which wouldn't that mean they just become a "tightly knit community"?

>>48310987
I personally prefer the bulletin board format. If others prefer real time chat over that, that's also ok. It's a matter of preferences. The fact altchans don't get new blood is both a pro and a cons. You could argue that not giving random people a chance is no different from living in a bubble but I say so what?

>>48311227
I thoroughly believe that new blood is almost always a bad thing, but I also understand that it's kind of needed. The few altchan's I've been on even semi-frequently have mostly festered away as a result, either in the literal sense of a shutdown or people moving to chatting groups/other sites instead, or in a braindrain way in the sense that everyone is just locked down and angry by treating all new blood as newfags leading to threads where people spend more time getting into pissing contests with eachother and/or the ghosts they see than actually discussing anything at hand. The only ones I can say that sorta pass both of those tests are Uboa and THP, though I can only speak at more than a surface-level on THP, which is a board that lends itself far more to the creatively driven aspect rather than anon's who just wanna shoot the shit or learn about any given topic aspects... which in my opinion makes it kind of an outlier to this discussion.

My point is that I want to see places where there is an anonymous community, but the altchans I've seen have all been closer to a cult of personality than an anonymous imageboard. I want to be able to replace and be replaced by someone else in a discussion and then hop back in or out whenever, true anonymity, rather than having threads with namefags or posters whose styles and thoughts that essentially make them one. Not quite sure if I'm expressing it correctly.

>>48310987
Every small board becomes cliquey or regular posters start to recognize each other, it's inevitable. I have seen it first hand and eventually someone who gathered enough knowledge to recognize people decided to fuck with each of them on individual basis, creating boogeymen, etc. to make them leave while the mod just watched because (I think) he believed they deserved that for exposing themselves too much and their behavior wasn't anonymous enough to his liking I guess.
>>48311521
The problem with new blood is when they don't fit the culture of the board and regulars don't like that. This might not be a problem on boards dedicated to specific interests where you focus on the topic instead of chatting about whatever with like-minded individuals.

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good thread

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I've reached a point where it's become quite clear I wasn't destined to have real friends or belong anywhere on this earth, so I plan to go dark and abandon the few remaining ties. ITP I'm gonna write my thought process down in case anyone else is in a similar bind and wants to get out.

Basically, you gotta be concrete and ask yourself: What am I trying to get out of other people? For me it's
>low-effort entertainment, recognition of my ideas, discovering other cool new ideas, mental anchor so I don't go nuts
If you can find a substitute for all these needs, then you don't have to socialize anymore. Watching streamers solves the loneliness problem well enough. Trying new games solves the entertainment thing. As for ideas, I think getting a really good TTS to read .epubs will solve things. The last one is the trickiest, but if things get bad I'm gonna start talking to AI bots for a sense of normalcy. I may or may not check back in here later to announce how it's going.

>>48314819
You want people to entertain you and stroke your ego without thinking about what you can do for them. No wonder you don't have friends.

>>48314819
And one more thing: My experiences with people used to vary a lot, but nowadays they're really only neutral or bad. I don't know if it was the pandemic or what, but people are generally more aggressive, more rude, more anxious, less patient, less kind, basically inferior in every way. Lately people will just randomly snap at others and blow up over minor things. Drivers do crazy shit on the road too, people in online games are awful, etc... I'm not a conspiracy theorist but what the hell happened? If all it takes for you to go joker mode is some inflation and a disease, maybe you're the real weirdo here and that "weirdo" from the imageboard is actually normal. Is this really any different from how certain dogs get aggressive when their food is late? If you behave this way when the McDonalds Value Menu goes up in price, are you actually a civilized human? Certainly not to the same extent as me.

>>48315281
>You want people to entertain you
So you don't socialize to have fun?
>and stroke your ego
My ideas are great, yeah.
>without thinking about what you can do for them
I spread knowledge. It's met with cold indifference because your average man only cares about pussy. "Hobbies" for most men are really a way to kill time until they can get pussy.

>>48315386
Socializing isn't the same as expecting people to entertain you. I do not socialize just because I am bored, no. It may be because I want to share an idea, it may be because I want to provide the entertainment, it may be because I need something or may need something in the future and have to keep up connections.

>>48315386
>I spread knowledge. It's met with cold indifference because your average man only cares about pussy. "Hobbies" for most men are really a way to kill time until they can get pussy.
I've met countless of people from the jay to MotK and not once have I ever encountered a single person who still has the hormonal imbalance of a teenager. At least in that specific regard anyways, my few experience with tumblr/twitter artists were filled with teenaged drama to say the least. Point is that if you want your world to just be about you then that's fine, I don't socialize with more than a handful of people myself so I kinda get it, but that's basically the dumbest possible backing reason for it and is far more insulting to yourself than anything anyone else could say. "Everything I've ever liked enough to consider a hobby I've only liked because I didn't get laid" is just a sad way to see things, and is also objectively false anyways since sportsfags are the biggest and most annoying group of fuckers around.

Anyway does anyone know what happened to 4ch? Started browsing there in the last month and now for some reason I can't see the posts in any of the boards.

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>>48318460
>Anyway does anyone know what happened to 4ch?
glowies

>>48318460
Boards work directly.
https://4-ch.net/img/res/5414.html

>>48319668
Thanks...
guess I'm retarded, didn't check that

>>48319753
Anything to help a textboard user.

>>48317359
I don't buy that most men actually have hobbies, because 99% of the time spent in those "hobbies" is dedicated to ruining them.

Look at what happened to video games. Remember when devs experimented with fun controls? Fun physics? New genres? That shit doesn't happen anymore because your average gamer just wants a glorified slot machine that can manipulate his psychology so that he'll spend 500 hours in binding of isaac going durrrrrr i got the rare item yay! time to open up the wiki so I can know exactly what it does and how I should use it! lemme open the runescape wiki real quick before I start this quest so I don't get lost!! oh you're not following the meta in this game are you fucking stupid?? There are infinite ways you can interact with video games and normies never fail to pick the most boring, soul-sucking way of play that eliminates all creativity. Remember CS surf? Zombies? Remember all those wacky experimental modes, Flying Scoutsman? People bitched so hard about every feature of MMOs that they stripped out every last vestige of uniqueness until they became spreadsheet games.

The problem is people. Deep down humans are garbage, and the small handful of exceptions are the ones who produce anything good in this wasteland we call earth. There is literally nothing on earth that does not sharply decline in quality the more people are involved in it, whether that be nature, hobbies, organizations, government, websites, cities, universities etc. I am really done pretending I'm not superior to most people, because I had to sit by and watch as they destroyed my passions, each and every one of them. By virtue of the fact that I did not destroy something good, that I actually create, I am automatically better than most people, and I'm sticking by that claim.

>>48050503
Thank you for new sites to visit!

>>48252931
You can just tell people it's sageru https://sageru.org/irc/
People should be aware that its #jp channel is what happens if people were to copypaste the latest template shitposting from 4chan and twitter and make a channel out of it, though. Technically kind of DQN-ish, but contaminated with too much of what people here would identity as the worst parts of modern imageboard culture. Barely related to /jp/ in any way after being around for like 15 years. The main active channel is #qa as the other guy mentioned and it's largely connected to kissu while the IRC server itself is connected to sageru's textboard naturally.

Looks like the thread is at bump limit. What a nice thread and it's neat that it was allowed to exist.

I would vote for this not to be made into a general again, but let the topic die down for a bit and make another thread in a few months. This would reduce the chances of it getting deleted in the future again.

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>>48321500
>People should be aware that its #jp channel
People should be wise to not ever come in #jp channel

>>48321500
Their rules are kind of gay

>>48062372