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hello, im getting back into learning Japanese again and i was watching a japanese LP of someone's Minecraft world with JP subtitles, I like watching cooking videos, news videos, gaming videos etc. and i want to know what are some search terms on YouTube that would help with immersion as i typically watch tons of YouTube slop daily.
>>48069258You know 実況 of course then? Just search <game you like> 実況
Just discovered this thing in some youtube video. Anyone have tried it? Is it as nice as an anki deck 2k?
>>48069638never heard of it but why do 2k when you could just mine
had two tries on this boss before he went down...i think i just got friendzoned by sarah
>>48069258>againngmi
>>48069713why be a hater
>>48069733I was jking lol he's gonna make it
>>48069711sara loves you but she knows that she can never have you which always makes me sadthis is foreshadowed when shes sad youre leaving
>>48069667I guess those words were picked because they're the ones used the most?
>>48069836but isnt it more fun if they are words you see yourself in media you enjoy
>>48069838I mostly want to play the first pokemon game in japanese but i think that's entirely hiragana. It does the same work?
手伝わせてるCan someone tell me what the わせ means specifically obvious what てる is
>>48069842if you're gonna play old pokemon games I'd play FRLG to be honest.>kanasoupmade up for it by imagining the moonrunes used. also played digimon world 3 with a cheat to make random encounters trigger only on-demand (cuts down on time wasted, especially when backtracking)>>48069898手伝わせる = make/let someone helpてる = abbreviation of ている = action in progress (in this case)making someone help
>>48069920>kanasoupWhat is that? Also guess i'll play black/white since those have kanji i guess. To see if that makes it any more quicker to learn kanjis.
>>48069842if you don't learn the words by the kanji, you'll still be unable to identify homonyms :3
>>48069194I split it into major categories cause practicing reading and hardly improve writing------------------------>listening -> readingcomprehension-<------------------------>speaking -> writingAre the relations, at least until you get to literary Japanese where it's reading -> writingBut they are all their own categories and are improved best by deliberate practice. If you put in 100 hours of writing practice then you will probably be better at writing than the version of yourself who put in 100 hours of speaking and 90 hours of writing, but probably not 95 hours of writing. You would expect most authors to be well read, and that's what you find. But there are plenty of great authors who claim to read little or not at all. This is possible because when working towards a goal and solving problem you have to understand more about what you know. You're vocabulary probably eclipses most graded readers you've read, but it would be difficult for you to write one. In the same vein, some graded readers are entertaining and well write while others are complete shit, despite using the same or more vocab. If you want to improve writing, find one of these shitty graded readers and see if you can write, something that is at least as good. But in reality nobody cares about writing, so you should just read and reread until you understand or your head goes numb, take 1 scoop, pass out, wake up repeat
>>48069972I'll note that listening -> reading is probably much stronger than 20:1 for japanese cause it's (almost) a completely phonetic script... if kanji didn't exist.In any case reading may be worthless for you if you can just use TTS or furigana for your usecase.
>>48069230I like legs.
https://youtu.be/NmTo4UDnEVYi should learn 将棋
>>48069808good game
I’m in Japan right now and I bought a shirt that’s says 酒くず Can someone explain what this means exactly? I know the kanji is sake (alcohol) and kuzu means trash. The guy at the shop told me it means “alcoholic”Can anyone verify? I’d like to gift it to a friend of mine that drinks a lot. Thanks in advance
>>48070046yes
>>48070046it means you drown yourself in alcohol without a single regret
>>48070046according to this article https://bunkaonline.jp/archives/2263 the nuance is that its used as an edgy term among youth to brag about how much they love getting hammered
how many of you are able to read an entire manga volume a day?It takes me like 3 hours to do one volume, even after having learned Japaense for a year fml
>>48070175i wouldnt even read one in my native language that fast
>>48069445are the auto generated jp subs on youtube any good?
>>48070175this is why people tend to keep trying to read harder and harder things. makes anime and manga feel like running after taking off the ankle weights
>>48070054>>48070101>>48070166Awesome, thanks a lot frens
>>48070190for a lot of people its because they are addicted to making their anki grow
>>48070188they suck honestly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGtRaylf300I'm learning
>>48070206you should be castrated preemptively before you hurt some kids also off topic 乙
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YiLLkRjHPbg
ダンダダン４話見るどうかなーなんか９００秒待てっていわれてる間に見終わったおもしろいじゃんか４話復活しておもしろかったよ
>>48070235I’m immersing in and learning from Japanese jc speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6hTzgJsVwlmao
>>48070385STFU AND NEVER POST HERE AGAIN
>>48070385please post more anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Yx9TuE09A
>>48070388おじさんの「いや。。。ミスってない」で思わず顔がにやけちゃった
>>48070481legitimately horrendous voice
>>48070196that's also a good thing for people who want tangible goals and metrics. can't imagine anyone who hand mined 15k but can't read japanese.
>>48070576its impossible given how much effort it would take to make 15000 cards
>>48070576i mean if they mined it from the dictionary maybebut idk man i feel like anki is just a comfort zone thinglike a safety blanket that may or may not make you learn more effectively but at least you have a card so you should know it or whatever
whats up with tripfags feeling the need to comment on every single post
>>48070591psychotic behavior by someone who thinks hes me
>>48070175I am, but it still takes me 3 hours. I think 1 page/minute is all right if we are talking about average text density. Try watching the anime if you want to go through the content faster.
counting time or characters isnt gonna make you faster
fake mes got a point
>>48070591
>>48070624this wouldnt change anything due to my iq being above room temperature
>>48070628yeah i never got the point of filtering people on an already dead thread
>>48070628i don't know what you meant by that but anyone who complains about tripfags should benefit from filtering them
>>48070591they are trolls
>>48070634i think he means that it shows a low iq if someones post triggers you to the point of censorship
This is the best I could get from chatgpt before it made me use miniAnna Haifisch (生 1986 in ライプツィヒ, 東 ドイツ) is a ドイツ 漫画家 and イラストレーター who has been 働ing for ドイツ and 国際 メディア. She is best known for her 漫画 titled The Artist, first 出版ed by Vice 雑誌, her 2018 絵 for Google and her 貢献 to the series Drawn to MoMA of the New York 美術館 of Modern Art. Her 作品 has 受ed several 賞 and has been 翻訳ed into 英, フランス, スペイン and 他 言語.Anna Haifisch (born 1986 in Leipzig, East Germany)[1] is a German cartoonist and illustrator who has been working for German and international media. She is best known for her cartoons titled The Artist, first published by Vice magazine, her 2018 doodle for Google and her contribution to the series Drawn to MoMA of the New York Museum of Modern Art. Her work has received several awards and has been translated into English, French, Spanish and other languages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw0FJmgwdPQ
>>48070589I mean under the pretense that each card was mined through a book or an anime. Who mines the dictionary anyway
>>48070634i mean i could still tell who is who just by anonymizing themfiltering is a different story
>>48070638all it does is make it so you can't see their names so you can focus on the content of their posts, like the original intention of posting anonymously
>>48070647I just filter all name/tripfags and everyone who replies to name/tripfags. Nothing of value is ever lost.
>>48070628/^!!mLa2zNvwuTt$//^!!IRE3KTJADN0$//^!!V9g0/TCiKsA$//^!!DBBy6+tYt1I$//^!!p4clAmXUG2B$//^!!8emm3d4bDB6$//^!!/fAZCFhAF6Y$//^!!FgfutlbjdrU$//^!!QqL0OZi9HCQ$//^!!/xOSlsOWd7w$//^!!biS7IHO8n8T$//^!l08I6k8X8M$//^!YAKhDlpv/Q$//^!oBasanip.w$//^!!1UcZ6YfQIjk$//^!UNKO.gAYdg$/
>>48070647sounds more like you put heavy emphasis on identifying people but yeah if you have that problem then removing their posts is the only choice
>>48070639>32壁ed
>>48070644there was a dude doing just that who posted about it a few days agobut yeah that much immersion would make you good (probably also without the cards
>>48070648i think the anonymous nature of the website is overblownits the equivalent of not filling in your name in the comment section of a website if youre old enough to remember that
>>48070624thanks, i had this turned on and didn't understand why i couldn't see any trips
>>48070688if you don't think anonymity has any influence on social interactions then you're an idiot plain and simple and not worth talking to.
>>48070700i didnt say thatim just saying that the culture of 4chans anonymity has grown into mythic proportionsusing a name on here really should be seen as no different from anywhere else on the internet yet people act like your opinions are somehow stupider because they can see which of them belong to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qPXMwaIweMMined 大殿筋 from the comments.
how to filter with replies in ublockdont want to install bloat like tampermonkey##.postContainer:has(.postertrip)filters all tripfags but you'll still see the replies
first they filter yathen they want to be ya
okay this worksboards.4chan.org##.postContainer:has(.postertrip)boards.4chan.org##.preview:has(.postertrip)
実はデカい
>>48070668did he make it?
>>48070706this is for to justify your use of a username bro. If fact, id wager part of you wants to be an attention seeker. knowing this platform has an overwhelming anonymity culture but deciding not be a part of it because you want to be a special snowflake makes you worse than twitter engagement farmers in my eyes
how do i turn off the english translations of the example sentences in anki without having to manually go through 6000 cards
uninstalling anki should do the trick
thanks
reddit gave me the actual answer instantly how do we feel about this?
i feel you should go back there
i didnt come from there i merely googled my question and reddit answered
>>48070946maybe google first then
>>48070707おんなてきには背筋がすごいなとおもうんだけどこれ尻しか撮ってないじゃん
dandadan is decent chug
>>48070968but i like 4chan more thats where all my friends are :(
>>48070990thanks for betatesting, i will probably pick it up next year if it's 85+ on anilist
goonmaxxing and japanese go hand in hand
>>48070990it is not
>>48071077this but chudmaxxing (i hate all westerners online im trying to escape to 2chan)
>>48071082true true its not a chug its actually good
>>48071083same thing
>>48071086chug can be good
>>48070866go to the anki browser > notes > manage note types > select the note type the deck in question is using > select cards > select the correct card type at the top > on the left select either front or back template depending on where the translation appears on the card > comment out or delete the line that makes the translation show up on the left (it needs to be a seperate field for this to work, otherwise it won't work)
>>48070578I don't see how that's impossible. I'm just starting out, but when I mine, I mine roughly 35 per day. 15k is 428 days.Granted, it gets harder to mine stuff you don't know since you know so much, but at that point you know Japanese
>>48071186how many reps would that be at the end lollike 500?
good lyricshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bu-7g3QqgI
>>48071198Yeah something obnoxious like that, but i meant making the cards. As far as doing the cards I'd still stick to 20 like I do now.
you can bulk create cards from vocabulary listsjust saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPw32uVUb5oemersion
>>48071227can i cut too?
>>48071227some things just feel ngmi
>>48071242with verbs you might as well just do that>>48071235just hold shift bro
>>48071246idk its not very compelling to learn worda from a list
>>48071255also not very compelling to have to stop reading mid sentence and look shit up. might as well get a ahead of that step
>>48071285lol whatit is compelling because you are like yo a new word and you want to understand the thing you are enjoying
>>48071233Fuck yeaaahhh fresh goonfuel
>not one missed day of anki in 2 months>get sick>so sick two days ago i couldnt retain anything at all so said fuck it and skipped 2 days>now im retaining better than everI guess you need rest sometimes...
>>48071233acquired 氷池 ひいけ
stopped doing new kanji writing cards a few weeks ago and its still 50 reps a day and i got the second half of the deck left
can you guys recommend me some twitter account for like local news anime or games?
>>48071384https://x.com/IGNJapan
>>48071384https://famitsu.com
>>48071384animeはあそこかなgameはあそこかな
still havent looked at anime dvd prices in ブックオフ
>wake up>responsibilities (lame)>do anki>spend money on gacha games>fall asleep to asmr (immersion)
>gachalame>spending money on iteven lamer
>>48071471https://youtu.be/kftEkOCQGyA
>>48071378
>>>/int/djt
>>48071560no thank you :)
https://youtu.be/c68DHtrfM4sこーいうのどうやってうまく聞き取れるようになれるんだろう
>>48071588金魚より低能な会話聞き取ってなにがしたいのかはわからないし意味のあることは言わないし、言える知能もないよ
read ハダカ as ハダ力
but how did you really read it phonetically
>>48071588i love girl tummies bros
>>48071636you don't get it this is the peak iq behavior
MattvsJapan huh
>>48071966hes a cool guy
>>48071975You can't read it will ruin your Japanese!!!
>>48071806Pathetic.
>>48071975He's really not.
firefox shortcut suddenly appeared on my desktop and taskbar while i was out of the house. i have it installed but haven't used it in ages. wtf
>>48072061I love this manga(I'm not a pedophile)
>>48072061wish i was a sucking girl
>>48072069same
>>48072015its a sign that you should switch to avoid manifest 3 autism
>>48072061fatasｓ
>>48072061>>48072067what manga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-hbClcExY
>>48072278i don't even know the name, i read it as the raws get post to /a/
jp only? :3https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B074CJFS41
>>48072278美夜ちゃんのきゅーいんライフ
>>48072061Where can I buy that shirt
https://youtu.be/CMZ2Dg3vDoECultivating my jc力 by watching one of these per day.
>龍が如く live action EP01-03not having high hopes for this one tb h
>gccx 387 armored corehaving high hopes for this one t bh
>>48072810有野課長にナインボール・セラフを倒せるだろうか…(； ･`ω･´)
𝑨𝒏𝒂𝒍 𝑺𝒆𝒙
you guys weren't exaggerating. the firefox app really is slow as fuck. even playing a webm requires extra "load" time where the screen is just black. what's the deal with this? android favours chromium and deliberately fucks with ff? on windows Firefox is quite good
>>48072959見たばかりの限りから判断して、ゼータイ・ムリ！
>>48073259link?
完全に理解した
>>48073389https://mega.nz/file/NuR1QS7K#UQzEIvglW-f1ztNHFK8SMWtzAn5ao-n7viYcehIWMLo
>>48073855なので
/djt/ I'm kind of new to japanese so I'd appreciate some help. How would you translate より in [下手に触られるより照れるギャル嫁] ?
>>48071471>asmrCringe
I can read hiragana at almost the same speed as the latin alphabet, but I read katakana like if I was seeing it for the first time in my life, wtf
>>48073994より here is used as "rather than"so the sentence translates to something like "rather than awkwardly get involved, ギャル嫁 is embarrassed"I don't know the context here so I'm just guessing at the meaning of 触られる
>>48071975he's at the very least interesting which you can't say about 99.9% of people
>>48074168Here's the image under which that was written. I know that yori can be translated as rather than but I can't seem to grasp the full meaning of the sentence. It shouldn't be about getting involved considering the setting.
>>48073803oh shit, I didn't know there was a show like this. is there an archive with the other 350+ episodes? thanks for that.always wanted to see some Japanese people talk about old games instead of current slop
>>48073803holy SOVL, i need the whole thing
>>48074216very interesting contextin this case, I would translate it as "rather than awkwardly touch (on the matter), ギャル嫁 (just stands there) embarrassed" this is me assuming she is embarrassed about her cleavage being exposed like that
>>48073803Didn't expect to spend 50 minutes randomly watching something like this, what year is this from?
>>48074313>>48074327https://pastebin.com/u/GCCXGeneralif you don't mind subs, this should get you startedhttps://nyaa.si/?c=4_1&q=cx+seasonlist of episodes if you want to handpickhttps://thetvdb.com/series/gamecenter-cx/allseasons/official
>>48074356that episode aired yesterday on fuji tv one. how have you guys never heard of game center cx? it's been going for 21 years!
they don't know the kacho
>>48074397I've seen clips of it but never bothered to ask what it is because I didn't think it was a show that actually focuses on games. thought it was just an excerpt of your typical jp television shit.
i only know about the bucho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaPgwCaUfSscomfy immersion time
yakuza8... おま国？ :3https://amzn.asia/d/1EQEEJX
nothing comfy about seeing a pretty young lady debasing herself for perverted internet men
Fair Argonian Maiden
Played a VN today and could read the line as fast as it was spoken. Next step, reading it as fast as the highest text scrolling speed. I'm gonna make it. We are all gonna make it.
already did dekinai kun
>>48075368is it same in English?
>>48075368gambs said the same thing and look how he turned out
Dunno who that is and don't care.
if you don't know djt culture then gtfo
>>48075454just another べらぼう
>>48075454dw he doesnt know who you are either
dragonball daima more like daimazui
>someone mentions rtk here>go look it up>end up on some site explaining it>"with this method you can learn 2000 kanji in 3 months"bullshit, how is that possible. i refuse to believe that
wheres the subs for season 7 bnha though
>>48075535by omitting everything you should know while in return teaching you nothing of value whatsoever. steer clear
>>48073994it's slangy, but it's "starting from" or the "right when"
just got done watching end of evangelion in jp and it was a mix of very easy and extremely difficultgive me a recent sloppa anime recommendation that's wholesome and will make me feel like a level 55 nihongo master again cuz i need something easy and heart-warming after all that
>>48075535By redefining "learn". Instead of learning Japanese you learn to write English with Chinese characters. If that sounds retarded to you that's because it is.
>>48075626>comfyfrieren, yurucamp, makeine, dungeon meshi, wolf and spice
>>48075626時々ボソッとロシア語でデレる隣のアーリャさん
>ころころ転がるgoofy ass language
>>48075535it's bullshit
>>48075699>known wordsrtk doesn't teach you a single word from what i have seen
>>48075708that's why no words are learned for the rtk user in the first 3 months
>>48072061>look at me>im a girl >who like>to eatfucking pickmes
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z7mWUxSERwE
>>48075713draw the red line over the x-axis then and we can talk
>>48075539guys
>>48075539>>48075739dunno
>>48075699There are plenty of people who learned to read in a year with just rtk and genki -> manga and passed n1 all in a year or 2The trick is that you have to actually be thinking about and using the language. You can't just "study" for an hour and ignore japanese, or argue online about japanese, for the rest of the timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU6nWB1g7mw
I gotta start immersing more but I get distracted and only do like 2 hours a day
>>48075757And I want to be clear, when I say "thinking about" I mean about sentence patters, inflections, verbs, morphology etc. Not thinking about how to optimize meme study patterns.
>>48075757i argue on here all day long and i know the language better than 99% of you
I have you filtered take your trip off and post out of character if you actually want to give a real response. If not then you can stay filtered
>>48075764and rtk teaches you none of those things. one might make it in spite of also having used rtk, certainly not because of having used it
>>48075757the point is that the rtk part is superfluous and they'd have been better off not doing it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JvHFt0GHrU
i'm way fatter than her but i'd never brag about it
What are some good children's cartoons I could find in Japanese?By that I mean something on the level of Peppa Pig and the like. So far I have Shimajiro.
>>48075794>>48075818How about the fact that you need to understand the meaning of kanji in order to read think about the meaning of the sentence? This isn't rocket science guys. The thing your western brain doesn't understand is that you don't even NEED to know a reading in order to understand a sentence.It's well known at this point that using a dictionary breaks attention enough to limit understand, adding on years to the language learning of anyone who is bold enough to try. This is scientific FACT look it up.
the FACT is that your ass NEEDS my foot
>>48075757literally dozens of these clowns have been popping up since 2022seems fucking everyone has passed the jlpt n1
>>48075757>rtk and genki -> mangai dont believe it, the grammar and vocabulary in n1 wont be found in your average shonen manga or stupid convos with japs on vrchati cant believe people pass n1 without reading novels or directly studying the more obscure grammar
>>48075779sure ya do bud sure ya do>>48075849i like zorori
>>48075535Yeah I wasted more than a month on 600 characters before I gave up. Dunno if it helped but I sorta feel like it did? Placebo maybe. But now, many years later, since I can read Japanese now it does seem like an extremely efficient way to learn how to write. If I ever wanna do that.>>48075626Have you watched the Spice and Wolf remake yet?
>>48075852how about the fact that you need to also know what a fucking word is called in order to say or read it out loud? that too much for your peabrain?
>>48075910shhh the rtkchud wont listen to proper reasoning
>I learned Japanese in 4 months>studied for the N1 in 2 months
>>48075849>What are some good children's cartoons I could find in Japanese?Hello Kitty is japanese. See if you can find hello kitty recordings with japanese subtitles.
>>48075959more realistically the person just memorized the question bank
https://youtube.com/shorts/bVPuKeHzzKI
>>48075910say it or read it out loudThat's the same thing, and you don't need that for comprehension.
>>48075820https://youtu.be/rqdqCf_FbJ0
how do i search for "japanese subtitles"for exampleハローキティ 日本語 字幕is 字幕 the correct term? also going to be looking for japanese subtitled anime
>>48075757These seems like a complete lie. The reading portion of jlpt 1 contains TONS of grammar and words that are simply NOT in genki+naruto. Even if you get 0.1% lucky in guessing and in a 60/60 is impossible. If this is true he is just supernaturally gifted with language learning.
you won't find them that wayi know how but its my secret
>>48075861>>48076140>word thinkersJust think about the language, it's not hard after the first few hours, then you can intuit any new words or grammar you see in context as you would in your native tongue. https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/notes-on-learning-languages/#are-you-actually-thinking
>>48076168you still would need to know many thousands of words to be able to intuit stuff like your native language
>>48076179Nope. A few dozen at most.
>>48076183https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/000035/files/301_14912.htmlthis book is around n1 levelviggers and mangashitters arent gonna be reading this fluently after learning a few dozen words
>>48076086>saying something is the same as reading something aloudok> you don't need that for comprehensionyou can't comprehend spoken japanese nor can you speak it yourself
>>48076201Why do you think a language is words? You realize new words are created, popularized and fall out of use every day, correct? You are confusing the fact that some people know x thousand translations of japanese words, around the time they learn the language with the false implication that knowing x thousand words makes you learn the language.
>>48076201you're arguing with a person who's the language equivalent of a holistic specialist.
>>48076201vocaroo
>>48076239we're talking about passing the n1, which requires knowing the readings of more obscure kanji and words, and the use of more obscure and formal grammar, the type of stuff one doesn't learn just by doing genki or being a vigger
>>48076252you should be saying that to >>48076168
>>48076168ugh too much work i don't feel like it
>>48076259what's a vigger? vnchads? you should easily be able to pass the n1 if you can fly through visual novels
>>48076104jimaku.cc if it isnt on there then ur boned
Think about it like thisPerson A: Can state 5,000 functions and knows what they all doPerson B: Can state 100 functions and knows what they all do, he also knows how to write new functions, what constitutes UB, how the syntax, how the memory model works, the standard etcThat's all you know about them, Which person knows c better? Ok now assume that person A just memorized all those functions with anki? which would you hire as a software engineer?>>48076259You don't have to know the readings of any kanji or words to pass jlpt. I don't know how you got this conception
>>48076293both would be inadequate for a job dummy. you don't hire a doctor who only has theoretical knowledge. you also don't hire a doctor who knows how to treat only flu
>>48076265idrc i just want to hear
>>48076259>>48076329Reminds me of when this thread clowns on pekora (or any random japanese person) for not knowing the reading of a kanji despite obviously knowing the meaning and japanese. That's the magic of kanji. Readings can be whatever is most convenient even NULL.
>I crammed Japanese exclusively to pass a test in X months and now im shilling you how I did it>knowing linguistics>false implicationcringe>I read an assortment of literature, built some apps and designed some prototypes while learning japanese on the sidechad
>>48076201i think the 3rd picture aptly describes unkos wife
How can 後にする mean both "leave behind" and "leave for later"? Fucking island mongrels and their shitty ass-backwards language.
>>48076335>even NULLlol no
zelda anon hereso i'm doing anki and i finally hit the cards that are being automatically added to the deck. here's an example screenshot of one of themincludes the reading, name, definitions, voice sample, and sometimes example sentences.high quality anki cards
>>48076346>apps>I hecking love information overload>look at all this shit I can now convince my self that I am learning>oh my goooood I'm leeeearning so many words>still can't speak or read without looking up every woooord that I don't knowDopamine is the enemy of proper language acquisition.
>>48076370automatically being added to anki from what
>>48076358literal vs figurative
>>48076358にする means to make or put something into a certain state
>>48076381she broke yomitan on yomininja and somehow has them auto adding to ankithe sensible thing would be to reinstall the program to figure out the issue but nora seems to be fine with it
>shedidn't know bunko was part of that cult
>>48076402give yourself a feminine name and i use feminine pronounssimple as
人間失格 was one of the first novels i finished and i read half of it again a few years after that but damn looking at it again i realise just how much i wasnt understanding at all
human failure?
>>48076416thats how i translated it in my head as well when i read it lol
moe?
人間何組の誰だalso read kokoro real early and honestly i would not recommend reading old shit until you know the new shit
>>480763581. leave behind, as in behind yourself or put in your rear view mirror私の後に母は黙って従った - my mother followed my quietly2. leave for laterそれは後でしよう - let's do that after / later (further into the future)it literally depends on your 'perspective' are you looking behind yourself or are you putting the document all the way at the back of the stack of documents (which is actually in front of you). right? you do this in english too. you say: "oh, look all the way in the back there. that's what-his-face." while you're looking ahead but mean far away or at the back of a room.
>>48076437先 is the same way btw
>>48076445and 後先になる means something completely different
>>48076437or in short, 後 means 1) behind (spatially) but also 2) later (temporal) and that's why
>>48076448and 前後 means something completely different too stfu
>>48076448you shouldn't talk 後先無しに little unkeit's embarassing every time
>>48076464thats a whole different kanji>>48076474vocaroo 人間失格
unko owned
I think I just fell in love bros holy fuck.Day in day out you look at women and you're like oh she's cute or hot, but then every now and then you see the kind of woman that immediately placed a chokehold on all your facilities. What the fuck.
>>48076484again, pretty sure this part was inspired by a picture of your wife bro>私は、つくづくその顔の構造を調べる事が出来たのであるが、額は平凡、額の皺も平凡、眉も平凡、眼も平凡、鼻も口も顎あごも、ああ、この顔には表情が無いばかりか、印象さえ無い。特徴が無いのだ。たとえば、私がこの写真を見て、眼をつぶる。既に私はこの顔を忘れている。部屋の壁や、小さい火鉢は思い出す事が出来るけれども、その部屋の主人公の顔の印象は、すっと霧消して、どうしても、何としても思い出せない。画にならない顔である。漫画にも何もならない顔である。眼をひらく。あ、こんな顔だったのか、思い出した、というようなよろこびさえ無い。極端な言い方をすれば、眼をひらいてその写真を再び見ても、思い出せない。そうして、ただもう不愉快、イライラして、つい眼をそむけたくなる。
absolutely would
>>48076500thats not a vocaroo also no hes literally me
>>48076491she looks like she would make ancient chinese medicines if you dont keep her in check
>>48076514you have the tiniest egoit's crazy you wife bro
>i would like to learn 1 japanesestatements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
>>48076538isnt having a small ego a good thing
>>48076491pic not related?
>>48076547not if it leads to constant pathetic attempts of overcompensation
>>48076547my ego is extremely small in the form of massive insecurities so no
>>48076583wutare you esl
>>48076574pic very much related and it's ok if you don't understand
>>48076589i really dontshes really quite plain if not a little on the ugly side
>>48076588first and foremost i'm sleepy
>>48076601it's k, I'm head over heels :3
every japanese woman should be at bmi 25+
that wouldn't be good because then they would be unattractive
>>48076611with an actress? feels a bit parasocial
Is the Tamagotchi show suitable for learning from a young child's level?
>>48076638bro please stop asking these questions and go out there and do things
ur mom got them tamas
real bunko gets mad when beginners ask beginner questions but he never gets mad at me when i post offtopic shit. he's incentivizing that which he dislikes the most.
>>48076381from yomininja. cards just auto add. don't know why.>>48076285how do i use this site? what's an .ass file?
>>48076659im not mad at beginner questions im mad at dumb beginner questionsits not out of the question that this is some weird troll though because the influx of these posts is unnatural
>>48076659i dont really care if beginners ask beginner questionsits all the stupid answers that annoy me>>48076668ass files are a kind of sub filejust download the show you want and load up those subs
>>48076686so for 11eyes for example, we have [dymy][11eyes][01][jp_cn]do i have to download the media [dymy][11eyes][01][jp_cn] from a seperate source, then download/use the .ass file? it would help if they provided download links
>>48076671yea true it does feel forced
>>48076948yes thats one wayanother would be to download something like asbplayer and inject them right into a streaming site of your choice
>>48076991do you have any reccomendations for finding the anime to download? going off 11eyes here, i would like to use the subtitles.i'm used to using crunchyroll, but i don't think there's a way to change the subtitles for crunchyroll.
how do i stop jacking off and study?
いまだけダブチ食べ美
>>48077372you gotta jack off while you study
>0 desire to jack off>get set straight by the occasional wet dream
>>48077417tfw no dabuchi
>>48077701ダブチどろこかハンバーガー何年も食べてないカツサンドを食べてる
>>48077712牛肉は体にいいよ
they love her on twitternew permanent character?
>>48077736よくかんがえて牛は牛乳が一番おいしい
Haven’t immersed for shit latelyThink about doing it, but can’t, or, start doing it and get distracted A lot of times it isn’t even something on my mind as like a possibility to do, despite the fact I enjoy it
Good use of anki: memorizing the shape of every single strokeBad use of anki: memorizing 1000 wordsGood use of anki: memorizing all the radical namesBad use of anki: memorizing kanji readingsAny questions?
immersed in shit recently. wouldn't recommend
ngmi if you have to think about immersing
Here is a simplified diagram of the mind of someone fluent in English who is beginning to learn (language) and studying using flashcards with word pairs:Red arrows indicate the main path of information from flashcards. Maybe you can see the reason I don't consider flashcards an optimal approach to learning languages. That approach can load word associations into a vector lookup system, but what's needed is encoder/decoder training. For that to happen with flashcards, the best-case scenario is training across the entire chain of two encoders to increase similarity at the concept latent space, and flashcards are inefficient for that because they provide a small amount of data without context. Anyone who understands neural networks knows that large amounts of in-context real data is better than repeatedly using small numbers of small fragments.So, instead of using flashcards, I think it's better to read pairs of complete paragraphs with the same meaning, without repetition. For example, reading a book together with its translation. The foreign text not being understood as it's read doesn't mean that reading it is ineffective as an approach.One reason flashcards are overrated is that a lot of language tests are for "vocabulary" because association between word pairs is easy to test.
Once someone has become fluent in a 2nd language, they typically gain the ability to write and understand sentences using words from both languages. That implies integration of the encoders and decoders, which presumably happens via distillation, as in this diagram:Considering that this happens with more practice and is seen in more-fluent people, it's probably better overall.This integration of multiple systems for different languages seems to me to be fundamentally the same process as integration of understanding of multiple scientific fields. The equivalent of reading a book together with its translation for that would be reading a book that considers questions and problems from the perspective of one field and then from the perspective of a 2nd field. However, that's less available than translated literature, because there are fewer multidisciplinary experts than bilingual people, and multidisciplinary expertise is harder to evaluate and thus harder to find. Also, people capable of doing that would probably instead write a single version that integrates their understanding of both fields. That would be fine for learning from but possibly undesirable for students trying to pass a class or people trying to fit into an established culture of a field.
don't care about your weird nerd shit, nerd
not reading all that but i'm sure you've made a breakthrough in language learning theory
>>48077052https://animepahe.ru/play/821d19f2-c91a-5b5e-372f-b1eb1cbe37af/7b6afe4ed067c6375ffe5c9ef77fe8ecef0f993aebf723eebcee94793ec7b3addownload options on the bottom right
>>48077897bruh you typed all that to say using flashcards without proper immersion is pointless. great insight
/djt/ obsesses with iq talk but can't handle posts from verified high iq sources.. curious
>>48077897>proposes a new system of repetitious learning that doesn't exist and would be toilsome to create>"flashcards are overrated because you can just do that instead"
>>48078067its mainly just 1 guy the rest of us dont read any posts like this >>48077904
djt has retired iq talk
>>48078082yupits unironically low iq to discuss iqstephen hawking from the smt series said that one time i think
言語学習は慣れの一言
Why the FUCK are are chinese and japanese characters in the same unicode block. What fucking retarded ass nigger did this?
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm44252687
ask bunko he's the local tech guy
>>48078117to save space innit
>>480779162010 called they want their demoralization tactics back
>>48077916>>48077922>>48078028see >>48078136
>>48078136i mean describing the language learning process scientifically is kinda cool i guess but its not useful
>>48078122i thought it was common sense but like characters tend to go together when it comes to unicode lol
wish 4chan had upvotes so i could upvote unko instead of having to post 'so much this'
>>48078155>user marked this post ദ്ദി( ˶^ᗜ^˶ )
>>48078155thanks im very cool
>>48078164=D
>>48077897nah, it aint that deep senpaistart1-2 weeks flashcarding vocab, to get used to the language and skimming genki for stuff you don't understand2-4 weeks reading parallel texts4-8 weeks reading and up the level, past 8 weeks up the level when you get bored. Repeat until you are at your desired level of japanese.
>>48078201anon your listening and output?
What's the best actual course to follow for learning Japanese?There's nothing in the guide for it.I know that 100% learning without a guide is better and anons are gonna wanna answer that by default but I know I'm not going to.I know that I personally need a definitive list of what to learn and set deadlines or I won't do it because I'm too busy with other shit in life.Please help me, a busy overworked loser, to learn Japanese by recommending an actual course (free or otherwise I really don't care either way) for learning Japanese.
>>48078284ajatt silverspoon
>>48078284anything other than ajatt nonsense
>>48078284duolingo
>>48078340the only correct answer
>>48078284いいからＮ２受けて受かれ話はそれからだ
wonder how many of the posters from 10+ yo forums like textfugu made it>>48078350N2以上N1未満ってなんかよくわからん居るの
There's no point in taking JLPT unless you can 180/180 N1 for clout or you need it for job reasons
what about 169/180? thats still impressive right?
>>48078284先に日本語を覚えろそれから話があるかもしれない
>>48078403even if its not a req for a job it still looks goodmost places ive applied at mixed it up with the 日本語検定 so you gotta teach them what it is and multiple of them asked if １級 was the highest lol
https://www.goodsmile.com/ja/news/6047lmao who thought this was a good idea
dont know this 気
>>48078446気のせいでした('､3_ヽ)＿
>>48078446feeling
>>48078446confused kaisha with shakai
膾炙
>>48078465>「社会の窓が開いていますよ」という意味の英語スラングとして「XYZ」があります。(*ﾉｪﾉ)ｷｬｰ
>>48078446
>>48078473XYZ?デンマーク語では「遊園地営業中やで」っていう
>>48078490日本じゃあ新宿駅の伝言板にXYZだ！ 知らんけど( ˘ω˘)
>>48078546look how they massacred my boy
>>48078546うん今どきのXYZはポケモンだよね知ってた(´・ω:;.:...
注文株アルセウスはやってない
>>48078580注目あほや
>>48078580何のtypoかを考えるのも学習のうちさ(； ･`ω･´)アルセウスが不人気だっただけに期待
>>48078606不人気やったん？割りと好評の気がしたけどでも色々粗い感じもしてたから続編でそれらを直せてたら買うと思ってる大金だし
crazy how fake unko knows more japanese than real unko
どっちをどっちやおもうてんのか知らんがな
同中Hate this word.>Captcha: gomyww
ひとつくらい食べても
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfh7Y__75DU
キモヲタって広告に弱いよね
>>48078781太るよ >:3
>>48078892
>>48078896ボクの遊園地が営業はじめますた(ﾟ∀ﾟ)ｱﾋｬ
>>48078703hes probably using ai or something so its not that impressive
ちょくちょく reading through 人間失格 again and damn there was so much that went straight over my head the first 2 times
i get banned when I post tasteful 2d eroticism behind a spoiler tag, while this retarded nigger gorilla keeps posting this vomit without consequenceMay Hitler's thunderbolts annihilate you
deja vu >>48076415
>>48079234gorilla based itt
>>48079234its my faulthes trying to pass himself off as me and hes been going overdrive with the photos
which one is real
wotd: ネズミ算
>>48079249true but im actually reading it not just looking anymore >>48079234waaah soft women go back to fapping to mcdonalds commercials targeting weebs
wonder when hell read nangumi correctly lol
My new study guide has given me massive gains, so I'm here to share. Using jpdb, learn the most frequent (new) 5% of the bookstart the book, and continue to learn and do srs, mark anything you felt like you understood while reading (even if you mess up a reading or meaning just mark it easy if you understood it in context ) and focus on the stuff you don't.after you finish the book, keep the deck in srs til you do a rereadAfter that put the deck on the slowest setting review setting and read another book. The goal is to spend the least amount of time in srs and the most time reading, and target only the words or grammar you failed in context
>>48079360vocaroo
>>48079360not doing anki would help you reach that goal
>>48079455vocaroo
Hit 300 days in Anki, figured it's as good time as any for a status report. Looks like I hit a wall properly, not that I didn't anticipate this. I was learning daily consistently at least a little bit this entire year so far, but most of my learning was up until late July. Made a lot of progress then, but now I got bored and/or can't find anything interesting to read. Maybe I should just focus on finding something fun to read, but it's typical of me to be unable to focus on a long term project like that for long. Come to think of it, 6+ months is impressive by my standards. For now I just skip around my reviews for a couple of minutes and do 10-30 minutes of half-hearted reading daily
>>48079514>For now I just skip around my reviews for a couple of minutes and do 10-30 minutes of half-hearted reading dailyincredibly based and gmi pilled
>>48079840someone read this for me idkj
>>48079840oh my lil sis... I should do mesugaki wakarase! >:3
>>48079514>For now I just skip around my reviews for a couple of minutes and do 10-30 minutes of half-hearted reading dailyBut how much watching/listening do you do
lets immerse and vocaroohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdKHoEtFic
What does the>切り取り線ついたままですよmessage mean? I can understand everything else in this kusoge but not this one line
>>48079976her wearing <><><><> is just look like a 切り取り線(cutting guide), sirankedo :3
Is it normal for immersion to not 'feel' like it's doing anything? I faithfully look up unknown words and grammar points for hours on end. Have 'ahah' moments on a constant basis, but when I'm done it just doesn't feel like I've progressed.I may be associating mental strain with progress but wanted to get insight from others.
>>48079976i think its a store bought tamagoyaki with the 切り取り線ついたまま meaning he's dodging her question
>>48080042non native retard larper>>48080080respectable actual japanese knower
>>48079976he boutta go 切り取り強盗 on dat ass
>>48080146me when i inmerse hard
>>48080190dont remember this scene in advent children
eotd恩を仇で返す
https://youtu.be/aMVyPs2Nd78What did she say at the very start?
>>48079902ughh not much I kind of stopped watching anime, only keep track of a couple of seasonals
>>48080246何すればいいの?
>>48080254tyty
>>48080246like it or not this is peak female form
>>48080080I feel like this is the closest answer, I already know he's dodging her question, but I don't think it's store-bought (he usually makes meals for her, plus you don't use 出来た for something store-bought)
>>48080403>he usually makes meals for herwith this context I'm certain he's just trolling with a nonsequitur to get back at her shit>他に言うべきことがあると思いませんか?面倒くせぇなこいつ
>>48080307futora (｢・ω・)｢ｶﾞｵｰ
>>48080447I c, thanks
https://youtu.be/mVmWmkHltak?t=1547so many 35ps
>>48080624imagine the smell
>>48080624wtf i didnt know they would livestream the entire thing
I'm thinking of user a planer to organize my gaming time and jp learning time any opinion or better alternative?
>>48080953please
>>48069230daily reminder to read the official DJT guideDJT guide v3.0, written from scratch by 出来るやつs: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/new - rikaitan site: https://rikaitan.github.io/
>>48080953I just have up once for the other pretty much. Unless gaming and Japanese meet like when I pay ff14, I don't do it.
>>48077897I'd say getting a keyboard INPUT converter, and trying to write out you favorite celebrities is probably better in the long run, wouldn't you say?Also does can anyone recommend a good Kanji/Kana OCR converter tool for Linux?I don't want to have to upload images fror privacy reasons.
>>48076398The so-called "yomitan" is an attempt to hijack the (former) Yomichan project by a malicious third-party. We oppose the hijack attempt of the browser add-on. The group behind the attempt shills a flawed and ineffective language learning method which is different from AJATT. Furthermore, they have a history of bad behavior in the Japanese learning community, including spamming and raids on people they dislike, making them untrustworthy. Instead, I suggest using Rikaitan. Say "Rikaitan" if you agree that the hijack should fail. Rikaitan is the true successor to Yomichan. It is a browser extension that allows users to look up words on web pages, functioning as a pop-up dictionary. Additionally, Rikaitan is open-source software, maintained by the AJATT community, and anyone is welcome to contribute. For more information, check out https://rikaitan.github.io/
niggas finna walk around japan with their phones out to hover any text and autogen subtitles
>>48069638All "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. The format of the cards also tends to be WCC instead of a more efficient TSC. Ankidrone Essentials is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus ー everyday words used commonly in Japan. You should get Ankidrone Essentials.
>>48081251https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Ankidrone+Essentials+corpus
the idea of learning words you should know from a list premptively is just so fucking weird
>>48077889I’m just a retard who likes anime but can’t watch it
>>48081153>Also does can anyone recommend a good Kanji/Kana OCR converter tool for Linux?I use this https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/mining-from-manga
>>48081294i'm lazy so that's why i do it
>>48081218>Rikaitan is the true successor to Yomichanwhat is this? game of thrones?
>>48081251TSC=shit
True Shit Core
>>48081375Thanks.Unfortuntely it seems to rely on Google search."Tesseract doesn't work without trained data files. "https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/mining-from-manga#usage-1
>>48081624I misread it. I'll give 'Transformers' a shot.
>>48081218Interesting. What's you stance on Rikaichamp (akak 10ten)?
>>48081875shut the fuck up you stupid fuck.
>>48080449
Should I get a keyboard in the Japanese Industrial Standard layout? Would it only serve as a novelty?
i could shove it up your ass
>>48081875at the devs are not troons, but i don't use 10ten. rikaitan is good enough for me.
Why there's no の particle here?
>>48082624*at least
>>48083023stop using shitty learning resources that don't even use kanji to write words電話番号 is one word, there is no need to put の therehttps://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/are-textbooks-bad
>>48083035It's first lesson of genki, arguably the best resource ever.
私立大学why is there no no here
>>48083048genki is the worst resource ever
>>48083054Because it's a general "phrase" people use, words like 私立, 幹部 and stuff usually get くっつけ'd to other words. You'll get a sense for it.
>>48083035>電話番号 is one wordBut it's not? It literally says it's two nouns, and the grammar rule literally on the same page says the particle の connects two nouns and the first one provides an additional info about the second one. Which is this case because the number can be a number of house for example, in this case it's a telephone number.I'm not trying to bullshit you btw, I'm just curious especially after learning German.
How do I start talking to Japanese people online? I've been learning for years by reading/anki now so I can understand most things I read, but I'm not too good with listening and I want to actually become fluent in the language. I have no idea how I would overcome the nervousness other than getting drunk and joining a JP voice call, but I don't want to feel like I'm intruding as the cringe westerner to an entirely Japanese space. Ideas?(I don't want to talk to JP learners)
I’m curious if other anons’ opinions on thisI’ve been watching anime without subs now after doing it with subs for about 5 months Maybe it’s some weird placebo but it actually feels easier to listen?Sure subs help to look up words and maybe if I mishear a word I can otherwise easily readBut I don’t think there are many lines of dialogue I only heard because of the eye ear connection with subtitlesAnyone else have an opinion on this? I kinda wanna watch without subs and only turn them on to mine lol
>>48083085>>48083035I checked the website, their anki deck is hosted on yandex.ru. Yeah let me just listen to a russian subhuman about his new Japanese learning technique lol
>>48083099の connects nouns but that doesn't mean that it goes between every noun pair. there's a million words made from 2 nouns where の doesn't belong.
>>48083162>yandex.rubased
>>48083128yes, watching with subs is 80% reading practice and 20% listening
>>48083174Well then using this rule and this particle will probably suck. If I was asked and didn't know the answer I'd definitely use の in 日本の語 because the first one definitely gives an additional information about the language.
>>48083023nan is a common prefix for counters to turn it into "what X" its the same for 匹 and 回 and 枚 etc
>>48083235i don't think it will give you much trouble
>>48083246he is asking why it's not 電話の番号 instead of 電話番号 - technically speaking 電話の番号 isn't incorrect per se
>>48083023compound word bro. like saying firetruck instead of truck that flights fires. the alternative would be correct technically, but you would asking weird because that's not how people refer to it normally.
>>48083108you dont need to, its not like youre ever gonna use the language for anything but watching anime
>>48083108if trying to speak is your goal, but you still have trouble listening, I suggest you start getting more listening practice. and also reconsider if learning how to speak is really something you want to do, because unless you're in japan it's gonna be hard to maintain.
>>48083108vrchat
>>48083099Your mistake is that you're trying to read rules in a textbook instead of AJATTing and absorbing the language naturally through immersion. Japanese people don't learn stupid rules. A 4-year-old japanese child runs rings around people who studied Japanese for 4 years in college. Why? Because a child has spent 365 days for 4 years immersing in Japanese.
>>48083534He will embarrass himself.
>>48083213I’ve kinda realized thatLike if I don’t know the word anyway then reading subs won’t help and if I do well then I doOf course subs definitely helped train my ear by sort of “putting a face”, so to speak, to the sentences I was hearing and sentence structure at the VERY beginning but now it never helps
gonna immerse my foot
>>48083606Let me know if you need any ashistance ahahahahahhaha
>>48083627thanks but i have quite the 満足な足場
Why kids can understand furigana easily but as soon as a person becomes older he starts to have problem with kana and demands kanji? Why can't you write everything in kana using spaces between words?
>>48083699せいぶつがく で は、 た の しぜん かがく ぶんや と どうよう に、 きさい・ じっけん・ りろん といった かがくてき ほうほう によって けんきゅう が おこなわれる（ ここ で の「 りろん」 は ほうほうろん として の りろん を さす）。 これら は どくりつした もの で は なく、 それぞれ が かんれんしあって いちれん の けんきゅう を かたちづくる。 きさい と は、 しょうさいな かんさつ に もとづいて きそ と なる じしょう を あきらか に する こと で あり、 けんきゅう において もっとも はじめ に おこなわれる。 せいぶつしゅ を どうていする ため の けいたいがくてき かんさつ を はじめ として、 じっけん そうさ を くわえない じょうたい で の はっせい げんしょう や さいぼう こうぞう の かんさつ、 せいり じょうけんか で の せいり かっせい ぶっしつ の そくてい、 ひいては げのむ の かいどく も きさい と いえる。 また、 ここ の じれい の きさい を きそ と し、 それら を ひかくする こと から より いっぱんてき な ちけん を える こと は、 とくに せいぶつがく で は じゅうしされてきた。 これ は ひとつ に は その こうぞう や げんしょう が ふくざつ で， けんきゅうし の しょき において じっけんけい を つくり にくかった こと、 たほう で せいぶつ が たよう で あり、 その はいご に しんか が ある こと から それ を ひかく によって あぶりだす こと に おおきな いみ が あった から で ある。 たとえば ひかく かいぼうがく や ひかく はっせいがく は それぞれ の ぶんや の はってん の なか で は おおきな いみ を もち、 それら は ちょくせつ に しんかろん の はってん に むすびついた。 じっけん は じんいてき に そうさ を くわえる こと により つうじょう と ことなる じょうけん を つくりだし、 そのご の へんか を かんさつ・ かんそくする こと で、 せいぶつ に そなわっている きこう を かいめいしよう と する じっしょう しゅぎてき な こころみ で ある。 とつぜんへんい の ゆうはつ や、 いでんし どうにゅう、 いしょく じっけん など さまざまな しゅほう を つかう。 げんだい せいぶつがく は じっけん せいぶつがく の せいしつ が つよく なっている。 じっけん そうさ は かがくてき ほうほう に もとづき、 たいしょう じっけん や さいげんせい の かくにん など により、 じっけんしゃ の しゅかん が のぞかれる ひつよう が ある。
>>48083723To be honest perfectly readable.
>>48083699homophones. 広辞苑 contains 40 or so different words that all have the reading こしょう
>>48083627lol
>>48083746Which is not a problem in verbal conversation somehow.
only actual retards advocate for the usage of kana only, japanese would be dogshit if kanji didnt exist
>>48083758because you don't say 啼声 when talking but 泣き声, nobody fucking knows what you're saying if you say ていせい and mean that
>>48083798>泣き声betrayed by IME once again: 鳴き声
>>48083798> because you don't say 啼声 when talking but 泣き声Oh wow if only you could write なきごえ instead of 啼声。。。。
>>48083837>Oh wow if only you could writewe were talking about verbal conversation, you dunce! fuck is wrong with you? get it together, man
>>48083843We were talking about kanji in writing you donkey and verbal example was used by me to show that homophones are irrelevant in this discussion.
>>48083746Even argument BUT MUH TRADITION is more valid than homophones argument.
>>48083860lmao owned
>>48083860people understand 啼声（ていせい） on paper no problem. it is not ambiguous. but if you say that in a converation it is unlikely that they will know what you mean because they expect you to use なきごえ instead of saying ていせい. なぎこえ is way less ambiguous phonetically. 啼声 is considered written style
>>48083875>>48083875>>48083875new thread
>>48083873> なぎこえ is way less ambiguous phonetically. 啼声 is considered written style> Oh wow if only you could write なきごえ instead of 啼声。。。。
>>48083880Lmao
>>48081153https://github.com/kha-white/manga-ocr
>>48083085I seer where they're coming from.But I'd say, just like computer programming, a brief textbook can help form a foundation of how a language is structured.I have the book Japanese for Busy People, so I'm glad I can bypass Genki, regardless.I'd say filling up your bedroom with relevant posters will play a big role as well.
Immersion really feels like "immersion" when you're drunk
>>48083099no is a particle that connects two nouns -/-> all nouns are connected by noJapanese's entire particle system is like the language in that it is always the former restricting the meaning of the later in some way to it's own context. In general you should be able to take any gramatical sentence, pick any non-particle lexeme, delete everything before that, and still have a completely gramatical sentence, that is very likely valid in more than 1 context, but more importantly is immediately understandable if the context (or restrictions) is known
>>48083099i'm not really antitextbook because i'm not autistic like most of the anons here, but literally no rule you find in any introductory book for anything is 100% comprehensive and correct. 101 textbooks value simplicity over accuracy as a rule
>>48085186Or you ever think the textbook is correct and you are just using nigger japanese?
I've been studying Japanese for 10 months. Currently at the concept of はいけません and てもいい。Yet I have this odd feeling that I'm the most retarded person in the planet, I go to my anki check out the kanjis and I barely get 20% out of it. I go try reading some japanese twitter I manage to grasp just some things.Its normal to feel despair so quickly? I'm learning this language because I wanna go to Japan and work there not just for funs.
