Scary birb
>>48094440>those huge tits hanging downI'm scared stiff!
Summary with MTL>geyser center is the one that erupted, not yokai mountain>nitori wonder if it's the vengeful spirit (mizuchi) or kanako's doing >she told the kappa to get ready for war to repay her humiliation >marisa and aya investigate the explosion>stopped by kanako, who told them the fires are radioactive>marisa doesn't get it, so kanako told her it has substances that are dangerous to human>okuu and reimu doesn't realize they're already in the surface and wreaking havoc there while battling>marisa ask reimu why the hell she's fighting okuu while her supposed target is mizuchi>she's been told that mizuchi will appear if she's fighting in a flashy way, no matter who's the opponent is (fucking yukari lmao)>marisa hasn't met mizuchi in the surface, so reimu decided to fight okuu again>marisa noticed that the seal to the underground has been broken>the kappas enter the scene, while nitori screaming at the vengeful spirit (mizuchi) to come out and face her>there's a big earthquake and loud sounds >marisa doomposting that it's basically over, and they should stop the two maniacs from battling it out>huge ass tornado of vengeful spirit bursting out of the hole reimu and okuu created>aya speculate that underground-surface war is finally hereTruly a battle manga
I think it's the biggest we've seen em, from this angle anyway. I swear she gets bigger every chapter. What cup size is she at now? E? F?>>48094460>geyser center is the one that erupted, not yokai mountainDamn, was hoping for some major plot development and fried chickenAlso that synopsis sounds metal as hell.
>>48094460>geyser center is the one that erupted, not yokai mountainBoooooo!!! ZUN betrayed us once again!!!! *starts destroying my Touhou themed room*
What happens to danmaku rules?
>>48094450Who are you quoting?
>>48094460>>huge ass tornado of vengeful spirit bursting out of the hole reimu and okuu createdGensokyo-wide Fantasy Seal soon?
>>48094440And the yawnfest continues. Yay.>>48094548They're only part of the setting when ZUN feels like it.. Outside of games, SSiB, and Grimoires they might as well not exist because ZUN is a hack.
>>48095461>and the yawnfest continuesat this point I'm convinced you fuckers don't know what you want and would just say that about literally anything ZUN wrotewhy do you even bother keeping up with it?
>>48095507>why do you even bother keeping up with it?I don't. I've stopped keeping up around the Hakugyokuro arc, same with Lotus Eaters. Honestly, reading anything after SSiB and CiLR is a waste of time.
we're so back oppaifags
>>48095712i love low IQ woman with big tits
This chapter confirmed that there WILL be a war starting next chapter. Nitori finally woke up from her coma and gathered the kappa to declare war against Mizuchi The tengu and Moriya Shrine will likely make their stance soon. Because vengeful spirit is just the beginning, they also have Yuugi and Suika coming up
>>48094460Any Satori, the titular character of this manga? No?Then perhaps Mizuchi, the antagonist and the cause of this whole incident? None of that either, huh...Instead, there's Reimu, who shouldn't be there, fighting Okuu, who has nothing to do with the plot, while other unrelated characters look on. And the way things are going we'll be skipping next month again due to covid, redraws or whatever else.What the HELL is going on with this manga?
>>48095759Again, ZUN autism, he answered this much in an interview>I just feel like it wouldn’t be a Touhou story if Reimu and Marisa got sidelined, so I just always ended up putting them in the plot
>>48095712I DON'T CARE ABOUT TITSWHERE'S MIZUCHII'M GETTING MIZUCHI DEPRIVATION PANGS
>>48095803They’re holding her hostage behind the scenes to specifically torment YOU, Anon.Also so more of the budget can go into Okuu’s ever-expanding bosom. All according to plan…
>>48095759Reimu is the peace keeper of Gensokyo, so she's going to be everywhere. ZUN needs to write story set in Hell, Makai, Moon or the Outside World for her not to appear, as long as their incidents don't spill over to Gensokyo
Are Yam and Parsley ok?
>>48095858they're being violated by vengeful spirits right now
By the way, a throwback to old FS lore regarding the 3 major youkai factions around Human Village. As it stand now if the vengeful spirits actually pose a threat to the village, Tengu and Tanuki will be forced to get involved, Kappa already on it
>>48095858Reimu and Okuu presumably went upward as they were fighting which is how they ended up blasting through to the surface in the first place while the Yams and the Parsley were last seen running away from them, so they're probably finemaybe they're hanging out with Koishi, who also hasn't shown back up
>>48095712How does she fly with such massive mammeries?
>>48095759>What the HELL is going on with this manga?ZUN realized he made a shit mystery story, breaking pretty much every single rule that could be broken which led to an immensely boring story, and decided to turn it into a battle manga because that's at least way more fun.That being said, Mizuchi continuing to be a completely unknown with two or three off-screen explanations now is possibly the most infuriated I've ever been with a Touhou work. Even Hakureisou getting shitcanned didn't bother me as much.
>>48094460So the nuclear reactor is now a complete bust? All that work and money, and it blows up because of a zealous shrine maiden and a stupid bird.
>>48094608educate yourself, newfag
Holy shit you can literally tell how much the artist LOVE drawing this fight from this cover page alone. I have never feel this much hype coming from a Touhou manga page, except Oni Kasen reveal
>>48096494nice dodge Reimu
>>48096494Kind of undermined by the knowledge that this entire thing is pointless, both in- and out of universe.Should have been Mizuchi fighting Reimu tooth and nail while venting her grievances.
>>48094460>huge ass tornado of vengeful spirit bursting out of the hole reimu and okuu createdMissing context, Okuu vs Reimu actually attracted the vengeful spirt up above ground due to the sheer amount of hostility it radiate. So now we will likely have a vortex of dark energy with Okuu and Reimu as center
>>48095712Jesus. That third one are actually massive fucking boobs. Irl they'd be fucking double Ds.God bless the change in artist.
>>48096557last chapter
>>48096557Mizuchi was never a fighter character, she is all about making other fight for her
>>48096557You say that like a majority of the fights in Touhou aren't pointless. I've got my complaints with the manga moreso than quite literally any other work but the majority of my ire comes down to Mizuchi being such a nothing-character who does nothing, not the actually interesting stuff that's happening like the fights.
this did barely any damage to Reimuare we sure she's not a youkai
>>48096674>You say that like a majority of the fights in Touhou aren't pointless.Most of them are, but most of the time they're either over with quick or have at least tangentially something to do with the main plot. But tell me, why is Okuu even fighting Reimu? What's her role in this? What plot device does it serve? Why her specifically? Why is she here?
>>48096674Manga and games are very different, especially manga that are supposed to be a linear story. You need to have actual focus and progress happening instead of mindless conflict without actual purpose.
>>48096694She floated, it's fine.
>>48096694This is the same manga where Marisa wasnt snapped like a toothpick after getting hurled at a tree at such force it broke it in half.Shounen battle manga logic is at play here.
>>48096694Now you see how hard she get carried by her natural luck, she was just at the right position to receive minimal damage from it
>>48096720I'd like break the first rule of questions and respond by asking you up until this point, how much of the manga was actually revolving around the plot of finding out who Mizuchi was and what her plans were to begin with? Frankly, pretty much every chapter pre-artist change could be easily be called "filler", despite being the introductory and most important parts of the story, simply because of the fact that Mizuchi flat-out does not exist until she is introduced a dozen chapters in. I'm not going to go so far as to say "every single chapter without the culprit is filler", but up until that point the mystery of who the culprit was, was worthless up until her introduction. Frankly, you could condense the manga down into half the size and get twice the meat from it with absolutely no drop in quality. It meanders a lot and a majority of what's happening serves little purpose to the overall and beat-by-beat plot. Hell, the most information we've ever gleaned from the culprit has been in four chapters, one of which was the one that followed her immediate reveal and the other two being the conversations with Yuugi -> the reveal that she holds a specific grudge against the Hakurei. I'm not going to say you could axe every other chapter simply because they're not direct and to the point, because that'd make a fucking boring story, but you could absolutely cut out a lot of it because the whole "whose possessed and whose not" deductions don't need to take up half the damn arc's. To say nothing about how Satori isn't even doing anything anymore.But when it comes to battle sequences? They're interesting, and most importantly, make sense to be drawn out. As to why they're happening is because it lines up with the cast, as a vast majority of fights have always come down to either misunderstandings or a lack of caring to understand because they're simply in the way. Okuu especially is a character whose entire arc is fighting over basically nothing for no reason because she's bird-brained. If I had to choose between a plot that goes nowhere and a battle that goes nowhere I'm always going to choose the latter.
>>48096063ZUN's said that he likes to write what the manga artist would draw best, the current one likes fighting so the manga spun out of mystery and into battle shonen
>>48096694Her chi is very refined she can tank it ok
>>48096778We know from Byakuren that you can enhance your body via magic so that's probably what's going on here
>>48096694She pain pain go away'd the impact, duh-doy.
>>48096952CDS does a lot of things wrong from a storytelling perspective and that isn't helped by ZUN's poor writing skill for anything longform, I think his best strength is in short stories, but I digress.That Satori is basically a side character and sidelined by other side characters in what should be her own manga is a cardinal sin, and if this were any other manga I'd drop it because consistency left ages ago. It's painful to see the seeds of a cool story get dumpstered like this because I love Touhou. But, this artist is carrying my interest. It's like what Murata does for OPM. It's peak action comic where the story takes a backseat in my mind so I can see big boobie Okuu level three city blocks in her fight with Reimu to see who can cause the most ecological damage first. I want to see Fantasy Maiden Wars levels of stupid violence, in a canon manga. I don't need to think hard about the plot because ZUN sure doesn't, and this battle manga style tickles my monkey brain in the same way the fighting games did, it's great.
>>48097449>It's like what Murata does for OPM.Make a good manga worse by adapting it for the slop-eating audience?
>>48097449I wouldn't say the Murata example is the best, but it is known that ZUN adapts to the mangaka and not the other way around. And it's very clear this one is good at drawing battles, so it's a better use of chapters than yet another off-screen exposition dump.
>>48096720>why is Okuu even fighting Reimu? What's her role in this? What plot device does it serve? Why her specifically? Why is she here?The more general underlying question of "should this really be the direction for this manga to go" is more difficult to answer, but the individual questions are easy enough.>why Okuu specifically?As a bird, she is a very mobile character, so it makes more sense for a fight with her to move great distances, enough for the two to surface, whereas the fight with Yamame & Parsee would logically end right where it started in the Underground. And it's not strictly out of character for her to be dumb and battle-happy enough to jump at Reimu the way she did, as soon as a suitable excuse was presented.>what's her role, what plot device does it serve?Moving Reimu back to the surface while making a big show of it, having them blast through the seal with a bunch of spirits. The stakes have been raised. Whether it actually leads to any kind of satisfying climax is a different matter, we'll just pray to ZUN I guess.
>>48094460If Marisa ignored Kanako's warnings and went full cowboy into the irradiated area ending up with acute radiation syndrome, essentially meaning she will painfully die in a finite amount of time, and turning into a full-blown magician youkai a'la Alice or Patchouli was the only way for Marisa to make it out alive from this predicament, do you think Reimu would allow it?
>>48098057IMO she would but she'd get monkey's pawed into Marisa actually not having the magic prowess to make it.Realistically ZUN wouldn't think that far :^)
So who is going to be blamed for this giant catastrophe? Kanako for giving the nuke bird her powers, Okuu for going out of control, or Reimu for defying orders and heading to the underground?
>>48098241Realistically it will be Satori stepping up to take responsibility with Yukari, and the endgame is to erase the barrier between Former Hell and GensokyoIt have been established since the beginning that Mizuchi is Former Hell's, and by extension, Satori's babbage. They even had a whole chapter dedicated to Satori reaching out to Yukari for a joint operation to catch Mizuchi
>>48098057If ZUN cared about introducing radiation to the story, Reimu would have been dead years ago.
>>48098057No, Marisa stupiding herself to death would only piss Reimu off.Besides, Eirin would just fix it. It'd be better than being a permanently radiation sick magician, anyway.
>>48095712God bless Okuu and her fat raven tits
>>48098057Anon one of Marisa most prominent lore is that she have really good resistance to poison and miasma (thanks Forest of Magic)Her and Reimu are likely the only 2 human who can resist hazardous environmental
>>48095507It's the Korean "cannon" anon that thinks he's a better writer than not only ZUN, but every doujin author out there. He's a regular at shitting up at this point.
>>48098924>Korean "cannon" anonI think you're aggregating at least 3 different anons into one. FYI, I'm not the North Korea fag. You don't think everyone saying "ZUN is a hack" is one person, right?Also not sure how pointing out that printworks are bad is somehow me boasting. Especially about being better than doujin creators, that's just out of nowhere.
>>48097515I truly don't understand how people can tolerate the manga unless they're just totally ignorant of the webcomic, only care about the visuals, or just feel like they're "in too deep" so they have to defend it
>>48099196I think it's interesting because of the artwork being absolutely insanely good, but with all the rewrites and re-do's of chapters it became annoying. I treat it like any other adaptation that makes changes, an extra to the main manga.
>>48098241When in doubt, it's a Moriya Shrine Conspiracy.
>>48097515Yes, and? I'm well aware the plot is moving at a glacial pace, on top of being pretty bad, but I'll gladly eat this slop because it's characters I love in an appealing art-style having a fun anime fight. It's not like we can go back to the mystery style, so take the good you can get and enjoy it. I enjoy fanboying over Okuu being an adorable retard, and the other little things that I liked such as Yamame's scenes and Mizuchi's softer side. It's the Touhou equivalent of cute girls doing cute things. Trying to work out how this new stuff fits into existing canon is also something I like to do.And ONE's webcomic is still going which is where the actual story stuff happens, so it's not like you're forced to read the serialization.>>48098241I think it's likely Kanakp is getting away with this. The statute of limitations in Gensokyo can be measured in days. They'll probably blame Mizuchi, Yukari, or vague past events alluded to by Mizuchi and hand wave the accountability of everyone else. I'll be pleasantly surprised if this boils over into something big, but more than likely the storm will break before it rain too much. Who knows, with ZUN being influenced by the artist maybe we will have something bombastic to end things off and something actually happens for once.>>48099193I chalk it to fatigue. Anons voicing their dissatisfaction with ZUNs writing are a dime a dozen, but everytime that fag shows up with his 'my way or the high way attitude' there's some retard who argues with him in vain and it just makes the thread a slog to read. I've already beat my head on that rock already, so I understand that anon jumping at shadows as I imagine there's no small amount of anons tired of seeing him.>>48099276Always.
>>48099671>And ONE's webcomic is still going which is where the actual story stuff happensI was going to make a joke about how it's literally been 9 months since the last chapter, but I decided to check out the raws to double check to see if we were behind or something and it turns out that he uploaded a new chapter a couple of hours ago and it just hasn't been translated yet.It's still an excruciating wait and I don't think you make a great argument, but I'm just really happy that there's an update so I'm not gonna argue right now
>>48099671>and something actually happens for onceThe most you'll get is a sage.
>アポカリプティック サウンド>Apokariputikku saundoEngrish never fails to make me laughGuess the vengeful spirits would make a like some horror ost thing like in this vid:https://youtu.be/k6EsFF-0OykAlso lol'd at the boxer like spirit and Reimu's rabid face>>48097115kek
TL where? TL where?TL where?
>>48101683It takes a bit. If you want to help it's the same scanlator that's been doing the manga translations for the past decade, go do some redraws for them.
>>48094548Spell Card rules are a gameplay abstraction that ZUN decided to include in his lore, and either uses or ignores when he sees fit.When putting them under scrutiny, they don't really make much sense, since you get birdbrains like Utsuho and shut-ins like Flandre being really strong opponents even though they clearly lack the grace to form beautiful patterns, and it's obvious that skill at danmaku is ultimately just representative of power in general (I believe Meiling is the only time it's implied that she's bad at danmaku but would be better in a real fight). And at the same time, everyone is always willing and fully prepared to do battle with Spell Cards, even people who just resurrected or barely even knew about Gensokyo, like Miko and Junko, as well as characters like Keiki and Mayumi, who, from their point of view, are involved in a very serious conflict with zero reason to follow Gensokyo's playfighting rules. But they still do it because that's how the game works.TLDR, ZUN doesn't worry about it and neither should you.
>>48096191no and yes, okuu’s bust is the nuclear reactor. You see, the changes in >>48095712 indicate that nuclear power is stored in her boobs
>>48102810>but would be better in a real fightBarring most fairies, honestly I think all characters would be.
>>48094548This fight is a very good example to show you why Spellcard rule exist, Mind you this is just Reimu and Okuu, we have way stronger characters around
>>48104072stuff like this makes you thankful that Yuuka is happy just chilling in her sunflower field and no one has ever fought Letty at her full strength.
>>48104128I saw some JP fan compliment the artist for making Reimu dodging movements resemble shrine maiden ritual dance, which she is specialized inYou can see it very clearly here >>48096494, it look like Reimu was just dancing her way through bullets
>>48102810I mean the main reason for the Spellcard rules is that no one fight at their full potential. In the fighting games, people punch each other more than a couple of times. This even happens in the shumps, as early as IN we have Mokou repeatedly trying to kick you in Extra.So it still works regardless, Flandre and Yuyuko aren't one tapping people on the double, and Utsuho's not melting the entirety of Gensokyo
>>48104604Oh wait, it's ISB where Mokou repeatedly tries to slam you. Still works, though.
>>48102810They make sense to me for the most part, except for what you said, people that JUST appeared somehow know what spell cards are, have a full deck of them and are ready to use them. It's like Reimu welcomes them at the border with an instructional guide and 10 free slips of paper to write their moves on to.
>>48104653This has confused me as well.
>>48096494Reminds me of that one fanart.
It's clearly that ZUN didn't really plan that far ahead with the Spell Card stuff for the worldbuilding.He did once try to explain how outsider would react with the Spell Card rules in SSiB with Yorihime, but that's because she's pretty chill with the whole situation in the first place, and literal war/invasion like in LoLK or Animal Realm's shenanigans is definitely not that lol
>>48105232I've always just assumed that whether or not it was a spell card duel is supposed to be dependant on contextsomething like Junko wasn't a spell card duel and was actually life or death which is why Eirin hands everyone the Ultramarine Elixir from the starts. It's not like some characters pre-Spell Card Duels in the PC-98 games didn't have interesting patterns like Shinki or Gengetsu.
>>48104604ZUN literally goes out of his way to say Spellcard Rule is just play pretend. Touhou are full of girls because he think only girls would comply to harmless game like that It is not a forced rule, everyone just have enough sense in them to prefer to not causing unnecessary destruction
>>48097515>Murata's OPM, the objectively betetr version by any metric>badt. chinless contrarian.
>>48102810>TLDR, ZUN doesn't worry about it and neither should you.This board is basically built upon the premise of doing the exact opposite of this.
https://mangadex.org/chapter/373fff13-0102-44eb-85bb-377e7b5695c3it's up
I know it's of no consequence but look how long Marisa's hair is now
>>48104604Yeah, the playfighting aspect works, it's just everything else that looks silly.You'd expect that a form of combat revolving around gracefulness and making beautiful patterns would favor artists and the intelligent, and while that does work fine for most final bosses, it's still undisputable that danmaku skill correlates directly to general power levels, which is why someone like Shizuha, who clearly has artistic talents, is still a shitter; while a meathead like Saki is really strong even in a Spell Card duel. And of course, Cirno, when having her latent power drawn out from her back door, goes from not even being able to lay a finger on a cripple with a whole group backing her up to single-handedly defeating what's probably the strongest individual in Gensokyo in a fair fight. Cirno clearly didn't get any smarter from it, so it's pretty blatant that in Touhou, might controls everything.People sometimes argue that Spell Card rules would allow even weak people to stand a chance against the strong, but there's really no strong evidence to support it. The powerful still remain on top.>>48105744Oh, absolutely. That's what I'm doing, too, even though I'm fully aware that trying to reason with Touhou is always going to end in disappointment.It's still fun, though, but you have to be careful not to take it *too* seriously or you'll end up like the schizos here.
>>48105799>It's still fun, though, but you have to be careful not to take it *too* seriously or you'll end up like the schizos here.Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with that. Just was an easy jab to take, y'know?
>>48102810Spell card rules outside of the game can be summed up as a agreement not to kill. This chapter is basically hisotensoku in manga form
Should there even be notable radioactive byproducts given that it's supposed to be a fusion reactor?
>>48105831I'm not convinced that Utsuho can even conceive of the concept of "non-lethal".She thought she fucking vaporized Cirno during Hisoutensoku, after all, and her immediate reaction to seeing any intruders in any game is to go in with full force. It's only because everyone in Touhou is also silly levels of durable that they manage to survive getting nuked.
>>48105916I also just sort of doubt that Okuu was actually using the spell card system in Subteranean Animism, she goes hard 100% of the time
>>48105975not sure if this counts for SA too but by 17.5 her default assumption is that anyone in the reactor is a contaminant and any contaminants need to be vaporised beyond all remainswhen the protagonist escapes her and makes it below, she just assumes that they're already vaporised and so she just shrugs and gets back to work
>>48097007he can draw drama pretty well. what's ZUN smoking?
>>48105747This one scene is so nice. Okuu finally sees the sky for herself
>>48105999That wasn't an insult, akiyama's art does suit the battle manga style more so zun was correct to switch focus. Manga became 100x better ever since akiyama took over
Member when this was a mystery detective manga with delicate shoujo art? I member.
>>48106033didn't she live at the shrine for a little bit after SA?
>>48106058>Two idiots fighting to decide a winner>Unleashes a sealed evil that dooms the planet We really are touhou ball z
>>48106074ZUN probably had Toriyama on the mind with Sparking Zero and Daima coming out recentlythis is basically Goku vs Vegeta to wake up Majin BuuMarisa has been demoted from being Vegeta because she's an even bigger jobber than he is
>>48105916I've always held the belief that Okuu's got incredible power but no true control over it, as literally every single spellcard she has is made to kill you but simply fizzles out before it can, with Hells Tokamak being basically the only exception to that rule. So I agree Okuu doesn't really understand what non-lethal means, just that the residents of Gensokyo are just good enough to make her danmaku non-lethal due to its mostly short lifespan.
>>48104153I never made that connection but it very much fits, literally dancing through danmaku and physical attacks fits her both as a shrine maiden and into her OP float power.
>>48102810>Flandre being really strong opponents even though they clearly lack the grace to form beautiful patterns,idk, Flandre's danmaku is pretty and varied imo.Agree for the rest mostly tho.Miko would have to bs her spellcards between the conversation and the fight while the player 2hu would be just awkwardly waiting. Junko and Keiki only work if spellcard rules actually got popular in Hell from Gensokyo(or Gensokyo stole it from Hell might even make more sense) and that breaking the rules either makes someone like Heca come to personally punish or there being some other fatal consequences if there's a full fledged hax battle like destabilizing magic or whatever.>>48105799>which is why someone like Shizuha, who clearly has artistic talents, is still a shitter; while a meathead like Saki is really strong even in a Spell Card duel.It still could be a case where people who aren't motivated to fight just don't really get into it, being good at drawing doesn't make you good at music and so on...Still yeah, Cirno's case is still a bit odd.Putting rules to a fight is a bit of an odd thing, if you take some real life examples like boxing, stronger people still have the advantage but you can specialize at that specific combat... Although maybe danmaku is closer to a sword duel where strength matters less than skill, but clearly not like with a gun duel where physical strength matters little.Anyways I'm just stretching to compensate a bit for sitting for long periods of time. Unless Okina/Yukari(Ran) or some representative just pops out to explain how fighting works, stuff like Miko following those rules seems just gameplay, but it can be a little bit of fun thinking of these absurd scenarios I guess.idk maybe you just supposedly battle the boss in a non-lethal way and that's it since I think that no final boss nor player are even implied to die ever (except HRtP and SoEW maybe)
>>48106137Just like Akira Toriyama it seems fairly certain that ZUN just makes this shit up as he goes.
>>48106064birdbrain forgor
>>48106064She visited the Hakurei Shrine and talked to Reimu for a bit, and shes been above ground a couple other times just according to cameo appearances.
>>48106058She took that blow like a champ.
>>48106137>Marisa has been demoted from being Vegeta because she's an even bigger jobber than he isReimu = GokuMarisa = VegetaRemilia = FriezaCirno = Mr. SatanYuyuko = Majin BuuOkuu = CellYukari = ?
>>48096494Old artist wouldn't be able to draw this
Spell Cards would make a little more sense if ZUN structured it like Duel Monsters or something like that
my favorite part from this chapter
>>48105873afaik fusion is supposedly "cleaner" than fission, the radioactive decay of atoms with less nuclear mass is way faster and byproducts like helium aren't toxic unlike fision byproducts which are radioactive and toxic iirc. Supposedly tritium radiation is less threatening than that of a banana, but maybe if you have a decent amount of it it starts being dangerous, but I think the biggest threat of a nuclear plant is heat/fire.But tbf I have no clue how fusion technology is doing/works, idk maybe /sci/ can give some proper insight on a similar scenario.>>48106058Will always wonder what it have been without the artist change. Maybe it could have turned into something trippy but pretty like Mononoke.>>48106262Would be funny if the Yatagarasu was actually trying to follow the rules when Okuu summons it's powers while Okuu goes full terminator.Still I think knives, swords, fire, trains and such are hard to make non-lethal.... so idk>>48107611At least in SSiB they talked about it but maybe AkiEda told him it was a bit awkward to put into stories so ZUN thought that doing things straight on would make the manga flow better or ZUN thought that it would get repetitive so it's hand waved.
>>48107605Keeping the old artist would have meant it remaining a detective manga, not a battle shounen. The shift in tone was because the old artist couldn't continue anymore
>>48107708>But tbf I have no clue how fusion technology is doing/works, idk maybe /sci/ can give some proper insight on a similar scenario.I do! So it heavily depends on what's being fused. Fusion reactions can produce radiation or not, anything from a light shower of gamma rays to fast neutrons that will make every atom in the surrounding area radioactive too. It massively depends. Even with hydrogen/deuterium/tritium, the reactions are different each time. To be honest without knowing what okuu is fusing we can't really make any assumptions.
>>48105873Fusion reactors arent nearly as radioactive as a nuclear reactor even if they were to explode. They can't meltdown in the same way nuclear fission reactors do, and just spew radioactive waste everywhere. The different material, fuel, and lack of a chain reaction that fusion reactors use make the radiation far less severe and its half-life is very short compared to their fission counterparts. I'm not 100% sure but I dont even think a blown up fusion reactor would even produce radioactive smoke. At the very least, it wouldnt disperse into the wind and cause radioactive fallout for miles around.
>>48107611>DZURAO!>SUPERU CARUDO! Spirit Sign "Dream Seal"!!
>>48107745I'd be very worred about neutron activation from there, certain kinds of stellar nucleosynthesis do produce plenty of neutrons which will basically bump into other atoms and potentially produce long-lived radioisotopes... though they'd also kill multicellular organisms much faster.
I think the fighting games, despite how shitty the actual mechanic was to play against, had a good concept for the Spell Cards which makes sense when applied to the schmups: Spell Cards come with a hard barrier and that is why girls are very durable. In the fightan games they would go into this hyper armor mode where they were very resilient while they spammed danmaku everywhere, and once you slowly chipped away and broke that bubble you could get good hits in. Similarly in the regular games, your shots do individually fuckall damage while theirs blows a life away. If you're not doing something resembling a Spell Card, then you're getting your shit pushed in like the fairy mobs you casually blow through.It's a stretch to apply to what is basically Touhou Ball Z at this point, but it's something.
>>48107766I don't care if she has a shield I'm impregnating Reimu and no one can stop me.
>>48107766Does that mean they can deflect real bullets?
This is my Kappa mob wife. There may be others like hers, but she's special to me.
>>48107433>Yukari = ?Supreme Kai, can teleport, appears to act smug and mysterious but his plans fall apart and he losses fights
How is this incident gonna be resolved now? Reimu just unleashed all the vengeful spirits to the surface which is very bad for Gensokyo. While Mizuchi is just having a meltdown at the shrine. There's now 2 separate incidents happening now because Reimu and Okuu nuked each other to the surface.
>>48108017God of Hakurei Shrine soon(tm)
>>48108017Kasen's going to show up and deal with the spirits. Trust the plan.
>>4810801710ko will descend from the heavens then she will defeat both all the spirits AND seal Mizuchi offscreen. The manga ends with Reimu and Marisa discussing that event days later at the newly rebuilt shrine.
>>48105999He actually confirmed this tho, the current artist like actions so he write some action scene in for him to draw
>>48108017They are actually just gonna be surrounding Reimu vs Okuu. Yukari is banking all on this fight being able to attract Mizuchi
>>48108017MIMA!!!!!
I know Okuu will probably lose this fight to plot armor in the end but its really cool to see her show off her sheer immense power and doing so well against Reimu of all opponents so far.
>>48108387Nah Satori will probably call her off
>>48108017Mima.
>>48107804>I don't care if she has a shield I'm impregnating ReimuThink again.https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/3733628
>>48107840Only .22
It’s so weird having some sort of timeline going on between LE and CDS, because just a few weeks after she was being chummy with the gang at Geidontei, Suika went on to release an invasion to Gensokyo in CDS
>>48108360>>48108938Gentlemen, bones status?
>>48109794as far as we know, CDS occurs at most a little ways into LE's run because of the chapter where Orin gets caught by Aya looking for Mizuchi. The difference is that LE seems to occur concurrently with each chapter being roughly a month apart in Gensokyo aside from the multipart chapters. CDS meanwhile seems to only have occurred across like a month total at this point.There was even a fan theory that CDS is actually pre-TD because no one from beyond UFO + DS has appeared
>>48109876Miyoi is already a thing when CDS started. CDS most likely started at the tail end of LE (that haven’t happened yet), namely when Mizuchi started possessing people
>>48105763Funnily enough, this is actually true to canon, Marisa hair been growing longer, her hair reached her waist in HBM
>>48109794>>48109876Yeah like this anon said>>48109902We don't have any information how long Orin's investigation have been going on before Sakuya got possessed.For all we know, Mizuchi gone AWOL for months before CDS chapter 1
>>48109027Challenge accepted.If I make her cum hard enough she will lose concentration and she will Pichuun~ on my Explosion Sign「Peta Flare」
>>48108017Arm-chan will save the day, trust the plan
>>48110128Aya reaction tell us all we need to know, at the time this happened, Mizuchi is still just “a vengeful spirit that escaped”, she haven’t stirred up anything yet and Sayori likely was planning to take care of her strictly as Former Hell business
so what's Yukari's masterplan?
>>48108017There's only two ways this goes, honestly.The first is another extended arc across games and manga, much like the Occult Orb's. I see this as somewhat unlikely as there was two concurrently running manga during that plus two Tasofro games. Plenty of time to flesh it out.The second is status quo. Spirit's just get sucked in when the hole is closed because they still have lingering attachments to Hell or some shit that makes no sense.Personally I believe it's the former, if only because this is a very intentional act by ZUN to raise the stakes so absurdly high, plus he's clearly been wanting to do stuff with the Hell's for a long while now.
>>48110423blaming the whole thing on the underworld, demanding they pay reparations for causing shit on the surface in violation of the treaty, making them declare former hell as part of gensokyo and therefore subject to its laws
>>48110263this manga will instantly be a 10/10 if Kasen and Arm-chan show up to save Gensokyo from vengeful spirits
>>48108071>>48110263WINDTUNNELjobber
The Wonderful Youkai Maiden of Destruction
>>48110629I've always enjoyed the 'she's more youkai than the actual youkai' idea so Reimu getting drawn like a fucking psycho is great
>>48110680and yet people keep turning Marisa into youkai instead lmao
>>48110689wdym
>>48110706Secondary faggotry.
>>48110706Marisa is a human but practices magic, but proper magicians are youkai. There's like a million in a half doujins exploring how she goes full yook to become a true magician and how her relationship with Raymoo is affected.
>>48110438>The first is another extended arc across games and manga, much like the Occult Orb's.ZUN really doesn't want to plan stuff ahead at all. ULiL and LoLK were a very rare exception involving two games that were released closely together and even then the connection between them was a really small thing, and hasn't been mentioned in like ten years.The only reason the Urban Legend incident continued in AoCF is because it proved to be convenient while that game's story was being developed, but it was never planned ahead of time.That's just how ZUN operates. He writes things as he works on them and may or may not refer to past events to create the appearance of a somewhat coherent overarching narrative, but that's really more by accident than by design. It's not even a given that he already has an ending for this story in mind.This manga will just be a self-contained story like the others, and will end without any changes to the status quo. There's not going to be a big climax that spreads to other parts of the series, it's just not how ZUN works.
>>48110706Marisa becoming a youkai is basically the most common trope for her next to her being a womanizer.
>>48110741>human turning into youkai is the greatest sinthe age old question of whether Reimu will cave Marisa head in when she turns or not
>>48110752The Occult Balls were also relevant in FS and WaHH for what its worth. It was definitely one of the longest arcs.
>>48110689That's why it was fun when they turned it on its head and had Reimu be the one to become a magician
>>48110773Reimu gives zero fucks about sentimentality 2hus, let alone women, have no honor, so no shit she will.
>>48110819she wouldn't do that to her best friend since 1997 right?
>>48110831If Yukari told her to do it, it would be done.She'd at least make it painless for Marisa, as a favour to a friend.
>>48110773She'd fix her with rape correction, and rewrite her youkai DNA back to human with the BHC.
>>48110803Those manga didn't make actual arcs out of them either. They're basically just there to promote the new games and because they were easy to write.
>>48105831which is funny because danmaku are quite explicitly stated to be lethal, including cards used in the game by multiple opponents>>48109794don't forget all of Suika's acting to oppose Zanmu, which also should be happening relatively close in time
>>48110773Not to go on a tangent and beckon 50 posts of text walls, but I'm 100% sure it only applies to Gensokyan Villagers. I am still waiting for Alice's public execution for rejecting her Humanity (unless PC-98 canon) in the case it's kill turned Humans no exceptions. Like if Remi got a little too excited with Sakuya and accidentally turned her, would you expect Reimu to barge in and say "Well time to die mutie!" and also expect the SDM just takes it?>>48110831eeehhh, Reimu did immediately accuse Marisa and Alice of causing the Imperishable Night incident if going by Marisa's route. Literally not even letting Marisa get a word in, just jumping straight to accusation and violence and ending with someone's ass getting kicked and sent back home to nap. And Marisa did crucify Reimu once upon a time.>>48110870Mokou and Junko are exceptions to the rule. The entire purpose is to avoid needless bloodshed, if it was just lethal then what difference did it make for Yori to adopt their manner of fighting when she was about to just kill them the normal way anyway? And she eats one. It also doesn't make sense from any perspective where they fight each other, I never got the impression that they were actively trying to murder each other in the fighting games. If it was truly lethal there would be a lot more than tattered clothing, a bruise, and a very light cut or two. The times where we see people actually die for real, was Marisa's curb stomp on a youkai and Reimu bisecting a poor innocent man with her Gohei, neither were Danmaku.
>Check CDS>Reimu fighting>Check LE>Reimu fightingWhat are the chance?
>>48111052Reimu can't take on the SDM if there are no Spell Card rules present
Kappa are literally a bunch of kid
>>48111052the danmaku themselves can be lethal, the battles usually aren't because the goal isn't to destroy your opponent's body - it's to dominate them mentallyYori seems like a musclehead but is pretty smart herself, so a plan like that where she can show off and not risk any impurity being spilled is by far the most desirable one(also, in a kind of meta way it's her who's the incident solver here - Reimu astutely pointed that out, and took up the role of her final boss on purpose)also on another note, Hecatia and Junko do show up in the no-limits part of GoU to flex a bit, with zero killing intent obviously
Reimu is a fucking feral beast, holy fuck
>>48111238I don't think this is how a shrine maiden should behave.
>>48111258yep. that's why you should donate to Kochiya Sanae from the Moriya Shrine instead
>>48111233I completely blanked GoU from my mind. That much of a subconcious distaste for Sumi I suppose. I'll reread it.>also, in a kind of meta way it's her who's the incident solver hereThis is what I came to as well. I mean Reimu is pretty obvious with her saying they're the ones intruding, but it ties into her float power which as far as I can discern is infinity+1 bullshit when you start discussing power levels. So long as Reimu carries a protagonistic role she can't lose, but in the case of that fight she's already lost when they went to the Moon. In terms of "fair" power and skill Yori has her beat by light years, and she wont have her 2 OP PLS NRF crutch to bullshit her way out of it.Back on topic with CDS, I have no idea if she's going to "win" this fight or not since it's dubious at best whether she's in the right and actually resolving anything. I think it'll end as a stalemate when Yukari's 5D chess plan to attract Mizuchi maybe kinda sorta triggers. Or they both get called to back off. le shrug>>48111258This is news to you? She's a monster in human skin.
>>48111238And people say Reimu isn't evil... Nork-kun proven right once again...
>>48111206Kidwives
>>48111206i'm glad the cutest Kappa came back again
>>48111206out of 10!
>>48111206They have so many different flavors of kappa wifes
>>48111298>Yukari's 5D chess plan to attract Mizuchi maybe kinda sorta triggers.Mizuchi went right to the mountain for Suika, i wonder if they will even get to meet immediately with all the chaos going on right now, since Yukari made them miss each other on purpose
>>48111619I'll take the black-haired one with sidelocks and ponytail. She gives me a vibe...
Do you want a total war?
>>48107743>>48107755Thx, I wasn't sure if the whole thing of fusion is always cleanear and safer was just marketing or something. Makes sense for the answer of complex topic being "it depends". I heard that the radiation of hydrogen and co. can't even pierce the outer layer of skin but guess that fusion also has it's risks.>>48110680>>48110814Not sure if Magician would be the right choice but Reimu being inhuman is pretty fitting imo.Maybe something like her being the Hakurei kami but due to lack of faith being closer to a youkai, or idk a superyoukai that feeds of fear of the youkai themselves considering how youkai also give faith.>>48111233>the danmaku themselves can be lethal, the battles usually aren't because the goal isn't to destroy your opponent's bodyThe rule of no killing is only with humans in spellcard rules so stuff like Yuyuko literally eating Mystia in IN wouldn't break the rules since she isn't human and probably just respawns anyways. Mokou doesn't die and seems to be more in the inhuman category.So yeah youkai, kami, fairies can actually get their body destroyed, but those are also the ones that don't die when they are killed so to speak
>>48108017Kasen will fuse and personally kill all the onis and then get a gloriously drawn fight as Ibaraki-douji
>>48111206And somehow 100% female.
>>48111885all the vengeful spirits* rather but she'd probably bonk suika on the head for letting this happen
>>48111885Realistically this should get Kasen really mad since she despise Former Hell
>>48111885i don't doubt someone who jobbed to WaHH Reimu can do much
>someone told me that if I start some shit the vengeful spirit will come out!>Starts a race warWtf is her problem?
>>48112089This chapter confirmed that Reimu was told by Yukari to do this btw
>>48112089who, Reimu or Yukari?
>>48110819That’s never actually gonna happen because of how popular Marisa is and because the Status Quo will never change… but Reimu would absolutely murder Marisa with no remorse if she became a youkai. Hell the only reason she didn’t kill Kosuzu was because Yukari set in a plan to save her, if Yukari wanted Marisa gone, she’s fucked.
>>48111983Kasen literally let herself get hit with a super version of Fantasy Heaven and it took a lot of time for her to be defeated despite that, Reimu could barely defeat her even when sabotaging herself
>>48112159And Hermit Kasen's missing arm can permakill vengeful spirits as shown in her own manga. She's basically purpose built to be the ghost buster here, and also cause she's an oni so she's supposed to be jailing them.That's exactly why she won't show up though
>>48112124>she didn’t kill Kosuzu was because Yukari set in a plan to save herI always wondered what's the exact reason Yukari had for saving Kosuzu
>>48112254-get someone in the village in her debt-get reimu in her debt for sparing her from having to kill kosuzu-draw out mamizou and deal with dangerous youma books-make kosuzu stop fucking with youma books in secret by making reimu aware of how close she came to turning into a youkai
>mizuchi isn't going to be killed offI'm pretty sure she's gonna end up being a protagonist of the next game at this point
>>48112270>the next game at this point>most likely a soft reboot like MoF, with both had a Phantasmagoria game preceding itThe next Sanae...
>>48109936All her height went into hair growth.>>48110752idk maybe Gensokyo just gets some vengeful spirits wandering around like with the animal spirits and that's it, I expect maybe a little change or it going together with the hell/animal realm thematic of the last games.
>>48112270God I fucking hope not. Mizuchi's had years to prove herself as a character but in every single regard she's just a worse Seija.
>>48112254She was doing Reimu a favor, because otherwise Reimu would be breaking the rule and not fulfilling her duty of being "fair"And the fact Reimu was hesitated to kill Kosuzu pleased Yukari since it show she still have humanity, and is capable of being biased, so she took one for her
>>48112268Also reminding Reimu that she’s ultimately the pawn of Yukari in every way and exists solely to do her bidding. Every action she takes must in service of Gensokyo and Yukari will manipulate whatever events she needs to ensure that. Like Marisa said, she’s a false savior of the village, she works for the Youkai exclusively whether she admits it or not.
>>48112408>Reimu would be breaking the rule and not fulfilling her duty of being "fair"Wdym?
>>48112456She killed Fortune Teller for doing the same thing, but when it's Kosuzu she hell bent on saving the little girl instead of doing what she must doShe was biased, and being forced into a tough spot, so Yukari did her a favor and shift the sin to herself. I mean Yukari was likely amused by how Reimu reacted to a close friend of her committing a grave sin as well
>>48107746*Wriggle dying noises*
>>48112362It will all depend on her backstory
>>48111887iPS cell assisted reproduction is commonplace in Kappa society
>>48112687The only way to save Mizuchi's backstory is if she's part of a Hakurei branch family.
>>48113349but we already know she's related to them because reimu told us that the miyadeguchi were a family that served the hakurei
>>48107766That's just a gameplay mechanic, as are the simple player shots in the shmups. Boss fights look the same way to the bosses as they do to the players. Okina's final spellcards, for example, are the player's non-spells from the boss's perspective.
>>48113359Wasn't that just a servant relation, not a blood relation?
>>48113400we don't really know if it goes beyond servantit's very possible that the miyadeguchi family is, for example, some second, less important sister's family while the more important sister birthed the hakurei linenot that I think ZUN will actually reveal something like that, but it could be possible
>>48113419Yeah, and that distinction is the most important part. If it's a servant family member who just got mad because she got presumably excommunicated, that's the end of it right there. There's no deeper it can go. But if it's a branch family that raises so, oh so many questions about the Hakurei bloodline. Were they the main branch? Did they "steal" the right to have a foothold into Gensokyo from Mizuchi's family? Was Mizuchi's family simply yet another family with a lineage of failures, but the Hakurei kept them under their wing? Are there still Hakurei's on the outside world, or at least their branch families? Will any of this lead to even a sliver of information about the enshrined god? A million other questions can be asked just from getting the confirmation that Mizuchi is a blood relative of the Hakurei, but there is absolutely nothing to be raised from her simply being a servant... because she'd just be from a family of servants. Irrelevant.
>>48113442Considering how everyone who hears Mizuchi's backstory gets taken back, and even start to sympathize with her, it must have been a pretty bad situation.
>>48113458And I'll believe it when I see it. And trust me, I want to believe.
>>48111189she literally can, mostly by floating and because youkai have no concept of arm race or tactical combat/warfare. (everyone grab the IdiotBall when fighting reimu, just as everyone become -50IQ in fannon animations when fighting the SDM)
>>48113505>Reimu can b-because she is the MC and can!
>>48113544Dunno who you're quoting but yes, unironically.
>>48111135Didn't even realize there's a new whale chapter
>>48095712SHE'S FAT
>>48111887This one's a male.
>>48111238feral Reimu makes me feel things
Holy oppai!
>>48111206is NItori the leader?she's the only one with a backpack and is calling the shots
>>48112483The biggest difference is Kosuzu could still be fixed. You can't exactly easily unsuicide someone like you can bonk them until the scroll is out of their hands.
>>48115172She pretty much is, even if unofficial, since she always represent the kappa in events
>>48113419>>48113442Pretty sure it’s Gensokyo politic that Mizuchi got beef with, you can reread the chapter of her possessing Mokou and go “The East…have fallen???” when seeing the current human village being infested with youkai
A fearsome monster... but at one moment a beautiful bird.
Haven't checked in in a minute, has Yuugi popped back up yet?
>>48115552no
