Guide: https://djtguide.neocities.org/Guide: https://djtguide.github.io/Guide: https://gohoneko.neocities.org/Song of the Day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQrn4iASj4Previous thread: >>48187251
>>48205800good song
>>48205805thanks its a classic
posting in the fatherless djt
>>48206081going to be our most active thread ever.
>>48206096djt's finally healing after the great /trash/ exodus
>>48205594i take naps at pretty much all hours of the daykeeps me happy and 元気
kill yourself mlen
So what's more important, being good at speaking or being good at reading?Right now my accent is shit, but I've been slowly improving as I listen to more stuff. Should I keep going in this direction or should I make literacy my main focus?
>>48206254you're dumb as fuck your accent will forever stay shit it doesn't matter what you do you're destined to fail
>>48206251im bunko tho>>48206254idk read more? no one here knows japanese
>no one here knows japaneselol self own
>>48206261I don't know, I've seen people improve their accents over time. I had a friend that learned Mandarin, and at first he sounded terrible. I couldn't understand half the things the guy was saying, but he hired a speaking coach to help him out on weekends, and now his accent sounds better than mine. I'm thinking the same can be true with Japanese.
>>48206270prove me wrong fakeshit vocaroo.com
うんこに流れ
konichiwawatashi wa nip nong nip chongDo watashi know nihon sugoi?
i 気に流れ all the haters for that is my ninja whywith not a 問題 in my mind i bravely ask all who stand in my way: なんぐみ？なんぐみ？？？
kenny naru
Hi anons, so I am starting to learn it. I found a pdf for learning japanese. I am using goodnotes, now I wanted to ask if I write down vocabulary should I write the kana per hand or should I just write it per ipad keyboard? Is writing even needed? I did realize that writing katakana from my mind is much harder than going with ios keyboard and writing hiragana. Wish I could have a button to change it to katakana though
>>48206361>Is writing even needed?not not reallymost of everything is done on computers nowadaysi learned to do it just for fun
>>48206254>>48206254entirely depends on your personal goals. if you don't care about going to go to japan or making japanese friends or whatever, then output practice isn't going to benefit you much. improving your comprehension will help with both of those anyway so watch/listen/read whatever feels enjoyable.
onomatopoeia of the day: ガツガツ
>>48206433cute
yep japanese onomatopoeia are all so かぁいい
if you cant appreciate a good 'poeia then whats the point of learning the language
>>48206316konichiwawatashi wa nip nong nip chongDo watashi know nihon sugoi?くんにちわ、ニプノング二プチョングドわたしノウにほんすごい？Thanks for the exercise wnon. Damn this was difficult. And I realized I am missing some katakana in my vocab like ン and ノ. How can I do spaces on ios keyboard? Is no spaces correct? I think that is the reason why people use kanji.>>48206366I think I will try with written per hand, when I work with the book. But will add the keyboard typed one later to it
>>48206472>How can I do spaces on ios keyboardhit enter after typing something then press space
chicken shit is a retarded itoddler lol
who said i had an iphone lol
>itoddler>"iphone"oh so youre announcing you have an iphone in particular unironic retard rofl
>>48206495スパステ found it. It‘s above enter.
>>48206530what?>>48206531oh didnt realize you were using the 10 keynice
chickenshits keyboard didnt help him much challene? challene? lmao
fakeshit pleasei thought you said we were gonna be friendly?
please be friendly hes retarded lol
this is unbecoming of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMXxlYRzMw0
she sounds sick
like sick (かっこいい) or sick (熱)?
>>48206627thick (デブい)
thick (太い)
wew dark souls 1 performance on ps3 is rough at timesbought キャサリン for 270 yen god i love bookoff
>>48206627the latter>>48206636sorry about your ban lmfao
>>48206636What the fuck is キャサリン？
>>48206686Ok lol googled it, didn‘t expect catherine
>>48206686catherine the atlus game
>>48206697日本じゃおま国で買えんかった
>>48206697was kinda awkward handing this to the female cashier ngl
>>48206721yh the whole games got a dad walks in kind of vibe
>>48206721your thumb regenerated :O
>>48206749火傷の跡消えんかな
>>48206761lil baby hand
>>48206721>>48206761crazy this is like two different hands ffirst one is like the old man who sells you tools for your motorcycle and second is a lady
>>48206721next time ur in osaka u should go for a stroll up 御堂筋 its super pretty with all the lightsalso crazy how my op gets deleted
>>48206773sorry fakeshit we just aint feeling it
>>48206773im more of a walking round the winding and narrow suburb streets type of dudeits like animes
>>48206790same same
matt ops can't survive in today's djt
>>48206773how about Luminarie?
>>48206794weve moved on from laughing at lolcows and now were committed to shepherding the next generation of jp lovers and learners alike
>>48206801havent been yet happened to see it today bc my genba was in honmati
wotd とら焼き
>>48206820your genba is your ママ's 地下室
>>48206835uh lil bro she aint wearing the ring on the right finger lol
>>48206841we werent married at the time but yeah we got a right size one eventually
>>48206852i dont think you were ever married lol
>>48206855damn why
>>48206862no vocaroo nor any real proof
>>48206835肉割れヒドス(´・ω・`)
>>48206876信じるか信じないかはあなた次第
>>48206884lets see some proof big boy
>>48206892こっちにメリットないやんけ
>>48206900youd btfo me so hard tho
>>48206906なぜ関係ない人をbtfoしなきゃなんないの仲良く平和的なスレライフがいいじゃん
>>48206914because then we would know that youre being honest about living in japan and that it wasnt all a larp
>>48206939心地よい曖昧に身を任せよう
>>48206950nah prove u aint fake
>>48206958今トリップ使えないのに？意味ないじゃん
>>48206967it helps establish your identity otherwise anyone could say they were you
>>48206971ん？今わたくしのトリップがバン食らってて使えないってだから今に決定的な証拠をあげたとしてもそっから偽物さんがこの名前で書き込むのではないかと考えてもおかしくない
>>48206995just make a new one?
>>48207007別に現状になんも不満抱えてないからなあなたの要求に一々応える義務もない
>>48207019well i have complaints about it so i feel youre obligated to respond
whole lot of filtered posts rn
>>48207022same
think imma take another couple of days without postinglasted a lil over a week last time ということで
>>48207023ところで3VCzpXAaV7sの酉割れてもうたん？ (´・ω・`)
>>48207049bon voyage fakeshit
which is more complicated English grammer or Japanese grammer?
lol grammer
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tn06M3QVrgE
I think rtk would probably actually be useful if you learned an actual japanese word with it instead of some abstract english Interpretation
黙れメロス!!!
you never listen to me or you've never listen to me
why is it by CONSOOMING you can learn English but this won't work with japanese?
>>48207612just a harder language in generalthe syntax is confusing and there are practically no cognates with many of the loanwords being false friends
>>48207727man i don't why I'm in these threads probably depression because i said it in the last thread too i have learning disabilities i really wish someone taught me japanese when i was baby because my condition makes it too hard to learn as an adult
>>48206254Depends on your goal. If you want certifications to work in Japan then just go for that and forget about speaking for now. Idgaf about certs and went just for speaking. I can understand most of what people are saying in general day to day topics and respond sometimes well sometimes broken. Either way it’s fun to talk to people especially in Japan which can be an isolating place.
>>48207788just take it little by little and focus on small mile stonestreat each sentence you understand as a win and celebrate every time you recognize a wordlearn to enjoy the process even if your disabilities are holding you back
>>48207788Nice digits but why does everyone that has a hard time learning Japanese blame disability? I have heard that so many times feels like most foreigners I meet here have a disability. On another topic for people living in Japan how many people besides family and internet people do you talk to per day?
>>48207905japanese attracts people from a large... spectrum
>>48206721she almost thought you were straight, haha
>>48208314lmfao
>>48208073Very true. The latest autists are the inaka real estate “investors”
>>48208369people actually want those dumps? most of those 'homes' are off grid and have no insulation
>>48207612you can, it just takes longeralso, english is trivial if you know a romantic or germanic language
trvth nvke: all languages are equally "hard" or "easy" to learn
>>48207612because you don't need to spend 1k hours before you can read latin letters
trvth nvke: all skills are eqvally "hard" or "easy" to learn
>>48208477so i can read japanese by studying 3 jours every day for one year? nice, i imagined it would be harder
>>48208631>3 jours every day for one year?if you actually achieve that sure
>>48208631yes if by jour you mean 3 hours
>>48208706ここすき
>>48208631you can start reading japanese, yeah. from there on it's the same grind as with english, so 5-10 years of casual consooming
is kanji the only hard part about japanese?
it will end up being the hardest part in the long run
I bounced off Anki really hard and I think I'm afraid to go back, is it normal for it to take around an hour/hour and a half to complete per day? I've got like a hundred I have to do again
>>48208774but is it the only hard part?
depends entirely on the amount of cards you have and the desired retention youve set it to
>>48208816no the syntax is backwards with the head noun coming at the end and many aspects being topicalizedthis makes translation a nightmare and the reason why yellow subs are even a thing
>>48208763>>48208816it's not hard, it just takes a lot of time and memorization.japanese is unironically easy as any other meme language besides that
>>48208742台詞キレッキレですわー
every time i see gaijins write in japanese they look like trannies to me
>>48208945glad im not the only onefaggiest shit you can do on here
>>48208945trvthnvke
>>48208073said the guy who single-handedly turned this general into a waiting lobby so he can talk to his 推し>>48208774the hardest long part is this dick!>>48208945そうあってほしいという永年の願望に相違ない
>>48209052who the hell is my oshi supposed to be? lol
>>48208781Tbh I never used Anki and memorized my first like 3k words using vocab notebooks I got from daiso. Hated Anki so much. I’m using an app for Kanji though which has some built in SRS.
for those who were taught japanese by a teacher when you were a kid what is your story are you japanese or hafu?
>A: あいつ、民宿の仕事にめっちゃ真剣だったからな。それで料理が上手くなっただけだ>B: そうかなあ……“料理はナントカ”っていうけど、それじゃないかな>B: わたしは、ナントカのおこぼれをもらってるだけだよね>A: よくわからんが、気に入ってもらえたなら俺も嬉しいよI began learning Japanese a few months ago and recently came across a dialogue that puzzled me. Can someone 日本語上手 kindly clarify what B is trying to say in this dialogues?
>>48209596Who is あいつ in this sentence? Is it B's relative or something like this? I think B means that あいつ tells him that his cooking is just meh
>>48209596not enough context
Can someone please tell me what Power is calling Aki when she says "Topknot?" It sounds like すばけ or つばけ but it's not, jisho doesn't give anything for "topknot" either.>>>/wsg/5725718
>>48209785chonmage
>>48209808ありがとう、 my listening skills are shit I wasn't even close.
wow unko sure knows his japanese
>>48209740>>48209768>B: これ、開けていいの？ へー、どんなのかな？>B: おお、ハンバーグに目玉焼き、謎の小さいスパゲティ、ポテサラ、プチトマトとレタス。定番の美味しそうなオカズばかりだね>B: できた妹さんだ！ 言い値で買おう！>A: 人の妹を売買すんな！ >A: でも、味は保証するぞ。ウチがまだ民宿やってた頃もあいつの料理は客に出してたが、かなり好評だったからな>B: プロのお料理だね。それじゃ、いただきます>B: ……うん、美味しい。あれ、思ってたより全然美味しい。このハンバーグ、出来合いじゃなくてちゃんとつくってるんだね>B: お弁当にこんな手間をかけるとは……その妹ちゃん、完全に君の胃袋を掴みに行ってるね>A: あいつ、民宿の仕事にめっちゃ真剣だったからな。それで料理が上手くなっただけだ>B: そうかなあ……“料理はナントカ”っていうけど、それじゃないかな>B: わたしは、ナントカのおこぼれをもらってるだけだよね>A: ……よくわからんが、気に入ってもらえたなら俺も嬉しいよ>B: 教室で人と食べてるから余計に美味しいのかもねSorry, here's the full dialogues. あいつ is A's sister, and A essentially shares his bento made by his sister with B.
im what they call a pro
>>48205800Why are the links different in this one
>>48209984people like to troll the op from time to time
>>48209838vocaroo
>>48210055sure but itll be under one conditionyou can probably guess the condition
no, i won't let you suck my dick
any hafus
oh boy
anyone who's weeb parents taught them japanese but no one in your family is japanese? just weebs
anyone know grow up with scanlator parents?
>>48210162*anyone grew up with scanlator parents?
>>48210183esl no need to flip the tense of grow to past
じゃっかん 若干yeah im not gonna learn your weird little reading desu
based
>>48210192https://youtube.com/watch?v=nYB6z2Fz2gE
>>48210313weird vid had to close
was about to say bitch needs rape correction but she gets raped every day
>>48210192there were no "did" in the sentence, you would use "grew" because the sentence would need to be in the past tense without the auxiliary verb. For example:"Did anyone grow up with parents?" (with "did" = base form "grow")"Anyone grew up with parents." (without "did" = "grew" in past tense)So, if you're using "did," the main verb stays in its base form ("grow"). Without "did," you use "grew" to indicate past tense.
lol
https://hikikomori-test.com/only 80 and above have a chance of ever making it in japanese
>>48210398https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis_(linguistics)
>but there were no "did" in the sentence...
>>48210398dame this must be what the kids call dunning-kruger
>djt 202〇>dekinais are shot on sight
there was no did...if you know english then you know what im talking about
>>48210468would sacrifice my firstborn for a good rezu sex tape of this bitch and keekihime
*barfs*
djt attracts people from a broad... sexual spectrum
>>48210410
>>48210477other than that typo I'm correct right?
>>48210565i wasnt pointing out any typo lol and no youd still be incorrect but i applaud you for your mastery of textbook english
>>48210565it's omitted, just like you can say 'anyone hungry?' instead of 'is anyone (else) hungry?"
and with that this concludes our det lesson
>and with that this concludesmaybe we shouldn't quite yet
ls all around
yosh
>>48210629ohnonononohttps://youtu.be/Hp4lxVV5cMU
https://nyaa.si/view/1497535
>>48210624lil bro...
>>48210643not wasting 10gb on meme psyops, sorry
unko still shilling dogen
is that a chink font in there or am i going insane
many japanese games use chinese font
japanese fonts look like shit and also ngmi if you care about what font's being used
>chinese BAD>japanese GOOD
imagine not knowing both
acquired 禰宜
le bug language
acquired 住めば都
>>48210761more like 住めば地獄
>>48210606so it depends if it's a question or not?
tranny energy
>>48210582i still don't get it
>>48210776this seems like a funny pictureshame i cant read it
>this kills the troonhooker
wotd タラレバ話
tararebabanasi?tararebabanasi?
those whove enjoyed the convenience of copyable text will die after looking at this sentence
acquired 両手に花
acquired 両手いっぱいに芋の花を
you didnt acquire shit
>!!3VCzpXAaV7s
yosh, only did half a chapter but i took me "only" 1hi think the next part is eroslop and i'm not in the mood for gooning rn
im proud of you flood blud
dumb question but, should i do my learning card at the end of the day even when i did call my cards in the morning
>>48210980>i'm not in the mood for gooning rnhttps://youtu.be/ZDZiXmCl4pk?t=41whenever, whatever, we'll never goon together
>>48210985thanks sis, gotta work hard if i wanna become a proper /djt/ lolcow someday
曲 of 2日前https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POg6S0ESoWE
>>48210582>>48210606pls explain i again
>>48208955cute
learning japanese is very good, talk to Japanese girls and you'll be very successful, they love it when you only know a few words much less being able to speak itcaptcha: KYS H0W
this is what chatgpt saysApologies for the confusion earlier! Let's clarify:With "did": The base form of the verb (which is "grow") is used. This is because "did" already marks the past tense in the question.Example: Did anyone grow up with no parents? (correct)Without "did": The verb changes to the past tense form (which is "grew") when it's still a question. This happens because, without "did," you need to use the past tense directly.Example: Anyone grew up with no parents? (correct, though this might sound a bit informal or conversational)In summary:With "did": Use "grow" (base form).Without "did": Use "grew" (past tense) even in a question.So, yes, without "did" in a question, the verb changes to "grew"!
>>48211002holy normalfag
>>48211073no *smacks ur ass*
>>48210995anyone grew up with no parents sounds so wrong
is japanese grammar complicated like this too?
>>48211204>complicatedlittle brother...
>>48211207what?
japanese has no grammar
>>48211214...never mind, squirt *tousles ur hair*
>>48211188is chatgpt still dumb?
where is the wasavi poster?
realistically how long until we have brain implants for super memory? (this is to help kanji dekinais)
>>48211252asleep
you'll have talking loli onahole tutors before brain implants
>>48211271is it over for dekinais?
>>48211271>loli onahole tutorswe're so gonna make it bros its incredibly
this threads giving me the イック
>>4821126010 years at least, but at that point you won't be need to learn kanji lmao
your 40 year old JP tutor/science teacher walks in
>>48211351>but at that point you won't be need to learn kanji lmaowhy?
never should have broken up with girlfriend #2, girlfriend #1 hasnt put out in a monthits like she sensed i decided to commit and dried upwomen are a deadly trap bros, dont fall for them
>>482113661 month is the average
>>48211271>>482113622 more years for easily accessible and commercially viable version of one of those>>48211365because you'll be able upload the japanese directly in your brain, no need for super memory
>>48211370it used to be twice a week from her
>>48211373laughable
>>48211373why would i want to see her hold and move the tenga?her pussy has to mimic those movements
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>>48211398gotcha senpai
>>48211373If humans could upload and instantly process languages like Japanese (or any other) directly into their brains, bypassing traditional learning processes and memory limitations, it could fundamentally alter the way we interact with information, culture, and communication. Here are some possible ways this might change the world:1. Global Communication and UnderstandingInstant access to any language would erase language barriers, allowing for seamless communication across cultures. Misunderstandings caused by translation issues or cultural differences in language nuances could decrease, fostering greater empathy and cooperation.2. Accelerated Learning and EducationEducation would undergo a major transformation. People could instantly acquire vast amounts of knowledge without traditional memorization, expanding access to information in real-time. This could lead to a more knowledgeable society where learning is deeply personalized, as individuals could pick up new skills and subjects at an unprecedented rate.3. Cultural Exchange and PreservationLanguages are deeply tied to cultural identities. With language knowledge instantly accessible, people could more deeply engage with different cultures. It might also lead to a resurgence of interest in less commonly spoken languages, preserving endangered languages and the cultural knowledge they carry.4. Impact on Creativity and ArtIn fields like writing, film, and music, artists would have immediate access to a vast array of cultural references and linguistic styles, allowing for richer and more diverse creative expressions. The blending of ideas from different cultural backgrounds could lead to new genres or forms of art.5. Business and International RelationsBusiness would become more globalized and efficient, with professionals being able to negotiate and collaborate without the need for translators or interpreters. This could reduce costs and facilitate international ventures, but it could also create competition for those who traditionally relied on language skills.6. Ethical and Psychological ConsiderationsThe ability to upload information directly into the brain could challenge our concepts of memory, identity, and individual learning processes. There could be potential risks related to cognitive overload, privacy, or even manipulation if people could "download" biases or ideologies.7. Social Structures and Power DynamicsLanguage skills and access to information are often tied to power. If everyone could instantly understand multiple languages, the dynamics of who holds knowledge and who is considered an expert might shift. This could democratize knowledge but also create new inequalities based on who controls the technology enabling this upload.8. New Forms of Cognitive EnhancementUploading languages (or other information) could be just the beginning. If this technology expands, it could enable faster processing of complex data, higher-order thinking, and even the ability to learn new cognitive abilities. This could lead to unprecedented advances in science, technology, and problem-solving, but it might also raise questions about the nature of intelligence and personal development.In sum, this ability to "upload" languages directly into the brain could be a game-changer, opening up vast opportunities while simultaneously presenting complex challenges that we would need to navigate carefully.
this japanese is getting difficult, even with yomitanthere's a lot to parse here...what does なんだって at the end mean? Is it similar to なんか?and, what is that みてーな business about?
fio bro
bro i just wanna watch kanna hashimoto without subs
>>48211424teme mitai na kozou jahakkiri itte yakufusoku nano da tte no
yakufusoku? yakufusoku?
embarrassing
>>48211453https://streamable.com/zdujdm
>>48211458kek good thing i'm anonymous
can someone explain "no" at the end of the sentence to me?like: nani wo suru? what should we do?nani wo suru no? ??i get that X no Y indicates posession or a quality or whatever, but i can't grasp what the no at the end of a proper sentence means
>>48211475の at the end of a sentence means it's explaining something. Explanationの
>>48211475https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/explanatory-nda-ndesu-noda-nodesu/
tbf it's better to feel it out
i try to feel out grammar textbooks and duolingo
me? i try to cop a feel whenever possible
>>48211475no there ask for an explanation - possible referencing something the person asking saw, as in you are doing something already or there is indication you are in preparation of and about to do something. think of it as "what are you doing (there)?", "well, what are you going to to (about it) (explain pls)."何をしている alone is very neutral. there is no context. it's like i'm asking you on the phone "what are you doing right now?"何をしているの is what more what "what are you doing there? (i see you're doing something.)" depending on the tone it can be used to express a lack of understanding or surprise "the fuck are you doing? (this is not right)."
>>48211537that was meant only for questions btw, not statements
vocaroo no?
>>48211475what's you first language
>>48211552polish, but i get by with english reasonably well>>48211537>>48211478>>48211487thanks anons, that helps a lot
>>48211490thinking of you!
how to indians learn so fast?
crippled
>>48211561what program makes those round outlines?
>>48211587www.dekin.ai
>>48211587yomininjamy dictionaries aren't good enough for blazblue..there's too many words it's not picking up...where is the giant list of yomitan dictionaries? time to pile them up
>>48211558>polishk just asking bc at least in terms of questions の is pretty easy if you know german
wotd 希望的観測
>>48211598thx anon.I just downloaded jp-jp dicts from moe website. what dictionaries do u use?
>>48211627these onesi haven't checked out the mome website's dictionaries yet, i'll give em a look now
how do i avoid osaka ben? i consider it like hood english
just close ur eyes nigga
>"well then, i did some anki and ringotan so it's time to read something, right">pick one manga>furigana is kinda blurry but whatever>translate 3 (THREE) speech bubbles with great difficulty>takes 15 minutes with a translator to helpfucking hellbut i did it anons. i read kana and came back alive
never talk to a guy from osaka or named ben
>>48211692>nigget tries not to be black
osaka ben laden
>>48211373>upload the japanese directly in your brainwill japanese people do this with english?
>>48210755https://z0r.de/36
>>48211781dame
first reply decides which choice i make
ゲーム・シャット･ダウン
aruto effu fo
>no "rape her" optionwhy bother
>>48211903that's not a reply
i choose the "vocaroo" option
>konjikiholy fuck stfu and don't create these abnormally many various readings for a single word my god wtf are they doing
wtf are they doing with those n5 words
>>48211958sir, might i interest you in some kinshoku?
>>48211475Other explained but the explanation that clicked for me is without the no it sounds like it’s a question for us. When you add the no it’s asking the person. Like doko iku? Where should we go. Doko iku no? Where will you go.
>>48211958
>>48212011schwul oder was?
>>48211958love japanesetruly i do
have i lost the plot if i also somewhat consider how 'minable' something is when deciding what to watch
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uQFLJoHNH2Y
>>48212182im glad i lived long enough to see this vid
Fuck this baby shit, I finished these in a few hours. I prefer reading, but jumping straight in to light novels terrifies me because it's frustrating to look up words that I will forget after a few paragraphs anyways.
why did you move to japan?
>と言うのにdo they really say "despite saying that" when they wanna say "despite"
are you good with japanese slang?
>>48210974##thefakeisthegay1bunkos old trip
what's some japanese things that won't be translated into english for a long time? aside from visual novels
i consider many officially translated games to be essentially untranslated because there are often dozens of scenes where the translation strays so far from the original text that it alters the intended tone or meaning
i dont consider translations
oh right there's a loli here...
>>48212358>the tranny is a pedowhy am i not surprised
>>48212363i'm literally not. it goes against buddhism.and a perk of her character is calling the main character a pedophile. i'm not sure if this will be reflected in the nihongo yet
how to revitalize the japanese language? there will be no more speakers due to low birth rates
leave it to me
>>48212374jfc ur life
and there it is
that japanese man yuta said the reason japanese don't speak english is because they weren't colonized for 100s of years
why is ragna asking the loli if she wants to cross the sanzu river, when children don't actually cross the river? thought for japanese religion.in japanese religion, the children build up stacks of blocks by the sanzu river and the Oni come and knock it all down. Adults are the ones that have to cross the river.Arc System Works, you're hurting my immersion here.
totd賽の河原の石積み
Thinking about deleting my core 6k deck now that I've been reviewing it for like 1 year since I've finished it. It's full of so many useless newspaper terms that maybe I'd be better off not reviewing this deck anymore, and if I forget words that I learned in it, then I can just mine them again for my own deck.Thoughts?
unlocked せず
>>48212579that's more grammar than it is a word, just so you know. you can add it to any verb.
>>48212579damn vro you must have understood nothing in mgsweve all been there tho you are on a good path
imagine white noising an entire video game.couldn't be me, that's why I still haven't beaten the second dungeon in the new Zelda, because I panic at the thought of having to talk to 8 new NPCs and mining 50 words from their convo
>>48212605the 9th NPC comes (｢・ω・)｢ｶﾞｵｰ
if you learn even one thing its not whitenoise
>>48212623that's a dangerous premise.if you 99% white noise something and understand 1% it'll still have been a colossal waste of time.
>>48212640not saying its efficient but still you learn one thing at a timeideally there is as little time as possible between the learning events but either way past the beginner stages you will be able to immerse in anything and learn from it
>>48212652>but still you learn one thing at a timeyou say that like it's enough, but you are not actually acquiring the language by just learning one thing at a time. same way your Japanese doesn't improve just by doing anki reviews every day. you actually need a solid amount of quality time. just one unit of learned doesn't make up for the 2000 brain muscles you are not flexing during that time which then leads to loss of previously acquired knowledge.
>>48212664worked for me and i did basically exactly what nora is doing without the hovering and mtl
but i also listened a lot tbfdno if xhe does
>>48212677>without hoveringevery time...
>>48212590yess. i love unlocking new grammar. >>48212591i still have about a year before the reps start giving me metal gear solid kotoba...i'm not going to have a fun time with it...but i'll deal with it when it comes.my mining deck is reaching the end of pokemon red i feel like...it gave me the word おうぎ which was one of the last gym leaders in the game.
>>48212688what?>>48212715do you listen though
>>48212719>do you listen thoughi'm listening to blazblue in japanese. i kind of didn't listen much to metal gear solid, focused on just reading.maybe i could benefit from starting japanese pod 101 soon.
>>48212759you should listen to podcasts for natives
is anyone depressed japan won't be the same in the future
https://youtu.be/C_qi8XVP8W0>zomg japan was so advanced>literal chinese plastic temu slop everywhereit will stay the same, welcome to the future
>>48212798JC1
>>48212774the birth rate
Estimating the number of 18-year-olds in Japan in 2100 involves some complex demographic projections. However, I can provide an educated estimate based on trends in population decline, fertility rates, and the aging population.Key Assumptions:1. Declining Population: Japan’s population has been steadily declining due to a low birth rate (around 1.3 children per woman as of recent years) and a high life expectancy. The population is projected to shrink significantly by 2100.2. Age Structure: In 2100, Japan’s population will have a much higher proportion of elderly citizens and a significantly smaller younger generation.The Population Estimate:The total population of Japan in 2020 was around 126 million, but the United Nations projects it to drop to around 60-70 million by 2100.The proportion of 18-year-olds is typically around 1% of the total population, though this can vary depending on age-specific birth rates and other factors.Approximate Calculation:If Japan’s population is projected to be around 60 million by 2100 and assuming 1% of the population is 18 years old, there would be about 600,000 18-year-olds in Japan in 2100.This is a rough estimate and depends on the actual fertility rate, immigration trends, and other demographic factors that may evolve in the coming decades.
just finished my anki reps for the day, back to blazbluehere's my deck list. check em. of this deck, i finished all of genki kanji and all of n5 vocab, i started the n4 vocab so eventually i should be able to join the discord...i also stopped doing reps for the bottom deck, will be removing that one soon
this person has taken many decks
ok but how many JKs
>>48212854ai has already truly been a disaster for internet discussionkys pls
>>48212774bro what the fuck i LITERALLY just watched Tampopo earlier today
>>48212863>日本都道府県桃鉄やればすぐやで！ 知らんけど( ˘ω˘)
>>48212854AI posts on 4chan (and other forums) can get frustrating, especially when they’re just copy-pasted ChatGPT replies or outputs from similar models. Some reasons why these posts may feel annoying are: 1. Lack of Originality: People come to forums for original, human conversation, so automated or copy-pasted content can feel generic and uninspired. Many ChatGPT replies are helpful, but without a personal touch, they don’t always resonate in informal spaces. 2. Repetitive Responses: AI often generates responses that seem polished and generic, lacking the quirks or unexpected insights humans bring to a conversation. Over time, repeated or similar responses can become predictable and lose appeal. 3. Context Misalignment: AI doesn’t always understand a forum’s unique culture, inside jokes, or norms, which can make posts feel out of place. A comment that works in a general context might miss the mark on a site like 4chan, where users often have a very specific tone and way of engaging. 4. Gaming the System for Attention: Some users might flood boards with ChatGPT responses just to boost post counts or get reactions, without really engaging with the community. This can lead to spammy threads that detract from genuine discussion. 5. Reduced Human Interaction: Part of the appeal of forums is interacting with real people with unique insights and perspectives. When AI-generated content takes over, it can feel like interacting with a faceless bot rather than an individual with real opinions.In short, while AI can contribute value in many places, forums like 4chan thrive on unique, human contributions—something AI isn’t designed to replicate.
lol what happened to "ill never post my 妻"
>>48212949its from this dude with based tastehttps://www.erome.com/debu_1000
what form of self hatred is this
>>48212904is there a rom for it?
>>48212976https://r-roms.github.io/
i didn't know みたい could be used in this way..with what's being attributed coming after the に rather than before>>48212980>https://r-roms.github.io/ありがとうございます！
niggas rly be out there playing fighting game story modes
i can't believe there are still 3 indian languages with more speakers than japanese and worse they are growing
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1856318507648201214
>>48213004they aren't their fertility rate is now below replacement only africa is growing
>>48212989nothing fundamentally changes there just because a に follows, it is the adverbial usage of みたいみたいだ。みたいな｜のNみたいに adj/verb
finished ragna's route, to finish this game i need to beat 7 more routes. that's enough for today.>>48213155おしえてくれてありがとう！>>48212997BlazBlue is beyond your comprehension!!! it has a good story
I was wondering how pokemon/zelda/mgs guy was blazing through those games that fast. dude was just whitenoising lol
if i have children what language should i teach them other than english and japanese? should i raise polyglots?
>if
>>48213235could be worse you could be reading something simple like nankumi as nangumi after years of study
>>48213298body language
do you learn japanese grammar in english or japanese?
くノ一
When 2 people are fighting and one is like youre stupid, fat, ugly, etc and the other responds 知らないよ what does that even mean or imply? you don tknow that? i dont know? i dont get how this is a common response in this scenario, it sounds like an incredibly weak comeback that doesnt really deny the insults
>>48213919圧倒的ボリューム感！ ヮ(ﾟдﾟ)ォ！
>>48212318send examples
>>48213948do you have an example in particular? my only guess would be "i don't know anything about that!" as a way of being dismissive
>>48214032all of unicorn overlord and mother 2 and eternal arcadia
didn't /djt/ used to have a link to downloadable japanese vns or am i imagining things that never happened?
we did but we went legit after the great media purge
>>48214137It's called google.com, knock yourself out.
>>48214145it wasn't google.com. it was like a guide to learning japanese that had a bunch of downloadable japanese content including vns.
newcutie question, I've been doing anki for about a month and a half and I saw something online earlier saying you shouldn't be subvoicing or whatever. Should I not be trying to say the words as I go through my anki deck? I guess the idea is my pronunciation will be shit and will start to build bad habits but at the same time i feel like saying the words helps me actually remember them better
>>48214154When reading VNs in Japanese as a beginner the key is to read what you want to read since motivation is a key part of keeping up a consistent reading habit. But if you're specifically looking for a gentle start then pick some charage or light scenarioge with simple JP and roll with it, then repeat a few times with other simple games before going into the more advanced stuff. Fortunately there are a lot of easy VNs you can try, for instance most of the stuff in the first 4 or so pages here are fine for your first JP VN: https://jpdb.io/visual-novel-difficulty-list If you want a personal recommendation from me try out Nanatsuiro Drops since you're already interested in VNs from the 00s.
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E7%9F%A5%E3%82%8B/#jn-112695>（多く、打消しや反語を伴って用いる）そのことにかかわって責任を持つ。関知する。「私の—・ったことではない」(7) (usu. with neg. sentence) to have to do with; to be concerned with; to be one's concern; to be one's responsibility;
>>48214161your cards will have audio on them to guide your pronunciation so theres little harm in subvocalization
>>48213948it's like "dunno about that one, chief"
its more like "dis nigga brazy"
知るかボケ
rude
>>48214239yeah I try to emulate the way the audio clips say the words, but now I'm just spooked that that will fuck me up in the long run
>>48213413epic queef momento
do all vns only have like 1/3 of the text voiced? the protagonist and narration is never voiced, so i need to actually read by myself. might as well read lns
>>48214277dont sweat small stuff like your accent just focus on your comprehension and make sure that when you speak its slow and cleartoo many people in their attempt to sound natural end up mumbling
>>48214229ok, i just looked up what charage means and that seems to be the kind of stuff i'm looking for. is there a way to browse charage titles on vndb or somewhere else?
>>48214335Most of them fall under one of these categories:https://vndb.org/g454https://vndb.org/g151
>>48214335Anything in particular you're looking for aside from older titles?
>>48214399slice of life comedy stuff. cute moe stuff. stuff that's character-driven rather than plot-driven.
the more i slop nekopara the more i'm conviced i was right with my old meme formula that makes sure a vocab is repeated 6 times on average through the whole vn, that way you can acquire it properlyof course this is irrelavant if you hoover
>>48214477hoovering is the great equalizer
>>48214459I'm currently reading Nursery Rhyme and it seems to be a good choice, very light-hearted and moe slice-of-life and the girls are cute. The common route is split into a lot of very small episodic bits so there's plenty of breathing room when you start out. There's a funny talking plush doll that tends to rant in Japanese that's a tad bit harder than the rest of the VN but most of what they say you can gloss over without missing too much.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLLjKvLVMbgFlyable Heart is also a popular recommendation for babby's first VN, it's also very cute and it has a nice pseudo-futuristic aesthetic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhEL8htphwwNote that I picked both of these up after I had been reading for a few years so I'm not the best expert at figuring out how hard these are for a beginner but they do seem pretty easy in general and the mostly light-hearted character-focused nature of them helps ease you into the medium.
>>48214477what?
so glad im not a vn autist and can happily enjoy real media
>>48214526most entry-level vinnies that get recommended are usually very short and the ratios of unique words/total words is very high. that means you basically look up every single word and once the vn is over you obviously forget themi wrote some meme formulas that ensured that the vinny is long enough so that non-unique words are repeated 5-7 times, that way it's basically srs but with native content instead of anki.now i'm even more convinced of it, because in order to improve the actual reading skill it's better to consoom content written by the same author for a while, since you get used to the writing style and the vocabs used. i remember suffering through the first chapter of nekopara real bad, but since the same expressions appear a lot of times you literally can't not acquire them (覗く, 俯ける, 眺める, 撫でる, 燥ぐ...)
>>48214536You can learn Japanese from almost anything without enough determination. I'll never forget the guy who learned Japanese from Yakuza, it was extremely scuffed but he made it work and that's admirable. VNs are just one of the easier ways to do it since you have hook tools like Textractor and instant dictionary lookup tools like JL to assist you so you don't have to look up kanji with radicals every time you see an unfamiliar word.
>>48214525thanks! i'll check them out. the aesthetic of nanatsuiro drops so i'm looking into downloading that. i did download a game called popotan because i liked the intro but i can't even read the first line so it's probably too advanced for me. how do you deal with unfamiliar kanji?
>>48214574you can do the same thing with tools like yomininja nowadaysgoogle lense is 99% accurate and the program comes preinstalled with yomitan
>>of course this is irrelavant if you hoover
>>48214576>how do you deal with unfamiliar kanji?I use Textractor to hook the game and JL to take the copypasted text from the VN and look up the words with its built-in dictionary.https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor/releases/tag/v5.2.0https://github.com/rampaa/JL/releasesTextractor has some machine translation tools for MTL readers but if you're serious about learning Japanese I highly recommend only using the hook feature and trying your best to understand the Japanese text without full sentence translations.
news TV good for learning?
>>48214591the whole point of using vns is that they have prose AND the dialogues are voiced. no other medium is as optimal
>>48214637also the text isn't timed so you can stare at it until you need to
>>48214637oh i didnt realize your vns have prose AND voice actingits a shame anime and vidya are only written in poetic verse
>>48214660*narration, you know what i meant
tfw its written only in iambic pentameter
>>48214674i did but i couldnt help make the joke sorry
>>48214683np, i deserved it
>>48214614yeah, i only need help looking up words. i more or less understand japanese grammar. my vocab is just very low because i have retention problems for some reason.
>some reason
>>48214576Oh yeah, with some VNs like Flyable Heart you can find the text for the VN in Textractor's list after just advancing the text once, but with other VNs you'll need a hook code to capture the text properly. A lot of VN hook codes can be found by Ctrl+F searching here, such as for Nursery Rhyme and Nanatsuiro Drops (the latter uses its Japanese name on the page):https://wiki.anime-sharing.com/hgames/index.php?title=AGTH/H-CodesSometimes a helpful person will post the H-code on the game's VNDB discussion forum so look there too whenever you can.>>48214692That's great. Since you studied grammar already you just need to get used to reading and building up your vocabulary, and VNs are excellent for that.
>>48214700hey, thanks a lot. if you didn't give me all of this info i don't know if i would have ever been able to get into vns, but now i have a few to start reading and tools to help me. thanks.
>>48214764You're welcome. You're gonna have a lot of tough sentences and unfamiliar words to go through no matter what you pick up, but I guarantee the first time you finish a VN route in Japanese will be an extremely satisfying experience, let alone the first complete VN. Best of luck reading, and I hope you enjoy it.
>>48214571i don't really agree desu
>>48214887yh the part about it being natural srs after 6 times of seeing something is sus
>>48214909>>48214887why not? what's sus? same vocab is repeated a lot, and if you read a couple of hours daily then it becomes spaced over the whole readthrough
>>48214923takes a little more time than that to internalize a word and if you compound that with additional vocabulary then youll end up forgetting more than you learned
>>48214978>takes a little more time than that to internalize a wordbetter than doing 2 weeks of anki with that same word out of context>if you compound that with additional vocabulary then youll end up forgetting more than you learnedthis is only true if you are a complete beginner (in which case you should just to anki i guess), but you look up 1 words per sentence on average then you should be fine
when does fsn get good?
>>48215005>better than doing 2 weeks of anki with that same word out of contextmaybe but this can be mitigated by first learning the word in context and having said context reflected on your card>this is only true if you are a complete beginner (in which case you should just to anki i guess), but you look up 1 words per sentence on average then you should be finethat depends entirely on the relative difficulty of the content youre reading when compared against your own understandingbut even if it were only 1 word per sentence that would still measure up to a lot of unknown vocabulary within say an hour of reading
>>48215088>maybe but this can be mitigated by first learning the word in context and having said context reflected on your cardin that case it's pretty much the same thing if you mine sentence from the vn, but without having a mining deck (and i guess you can do it for way longer though i doubt the usefulness of doing so)>hat depends entirely on the relative difficulty of the content youre reading when compared against your own understandingwell yeah, that's why my formula also considered sentence length/vocab difficulty.>that would still measure up to a lot of unknown vocabulary within say an hour of readingthis definitely happens but i guess it's a good thing? if you're reading something easy and have to look up stuff every sentence then you're lacking basic vocabs, might as well add the to your (figurative) mining deckanyway i'm still testing this. all i know is that it took me 8 hours to read chapter 1 of nekopara and only 2 to read chapter 4 (which is half as long but still). i would like to check my reading speed the first chapter of nekopara 3 or so (same author), because if the vocabs used are always the same i should know 99% of them by then
>>48215144according to jpdb half the vocab of any given show is going to only appear 1 time so my guess is the same would be true in a vn but let me know what your personal findings are
just read 瀉す as にごす
>>48215173i think i did something like >[(total vocabs - unique vocabs used once)/6 = total unique vocabs]and picked vinnies where that number is close to 1, and then sorted them by shortest sentence length
>>48215195also using that formula, the most optimal non-dogshit vinny was v31212
all ages vinnies win again
Some what related to Japanese but is it just me or are people hostile in japan if you are Japanese but can’t speak Japanese? I’ve been in japan for 3 days and even though I’m 100% Japanese I can’t speak at all and when I speak in English they all give me an attitude
maybe they think youre being difficult because they expect you to have grown up speaking it? dunno
>>48215327>I’m 100% Japanesepost hand
so what’s the consensus on manga vs VN? I’m guessing reading time is more important so whatever you can stick with is better?
>>48215509vns are better in just about every way but the medium is dominated by trash so its hard to say if mangas are definitively worse
>>48215509manga:>easy because both shounen/seinenslop is written for kids>furigana makes stuff easier to look up and cripples you>chapters are short and fun to readvn:>prose for "adults">voiced dialogue and the ability to texthook if you wanna cripple yourself>extremely slow burn but comfier
is わわよ a typo?
>>48215509They're both good, pick whichever one with which you have a title you want to read. VNs will improve your narration reading skill faster, and manga will improve your dialogue reading skill faster.
>>48215195this formula makes no sense
>>48215509doujins are better than mangas but vns are the best for learning japanese
>>48215552becoming a cripple is truly what japanese is all about
>>48215558Normally, I'd never assume anything in a game is a typo, but this time it really looks like one.
>>48215509They are all good, including anime and lns. I kinda aboid vns tho because i need more lookups while the lookup itself is more annoying because you do it in another window
Do you have a favorite news channel? I'm liking ANN News.
>>48215704english obviously
>>48215753why
>>48215754because you dont speak japanese
did anyone ask their parents why they didn't teach them japanese?
>>48215577it does, you're just low iq
>>48212579Unlock dis pussy nigga *spreads lips*
good posts all around
especially the nigga pussy lips one, love those
Did you guys order your Christmas cakes yet? Pic rel my cake from last year
>>48215891
>>48215931>Did you guys order your Christmas cakes yet?>orderbitch, please
feel good being immune to (((propaganda)))
>>48215931you dont eat cake on christmaswe need to bring back standards
>>48214477stfu
>>48216109vocaroo
>>48216109gonna second 136
gonna second 944
did anyone ask their parents why they didn't teach you japanese?
>ツリーi wanna collectively hit every japanese person in the stomach for this
>>48216267but they did?
warudo?
>>48216484the futa doujins are good
>>48215327why didn't your parents teach you japanese?
>>48216514this but ill never watch it
>>48216484it's when people say stuff like this do I truly know something is just mediocre, slightly above average, it has some kind of gimmick.
japanese forums say to learn english you have to be around english speaking people
sound advice but then again japs dont know english
>>48217046wrong, see >>48215327
My gf lives with me and we only speak English and 2 years later she improved 0%
>>48217073that's sounds like a problem stemming from you
nuke jr.
are we still pretending nukemarine doesn't know japanese?
>>48217073dekinai gf
I went to japan and some girls looked at me like ( ͡°ᴥ ͡° ʋ)I'm a 5'9'' med nerd twink. Do they want sex? husbando? Or is looking at foreingers just a tradition? Only happened in non touristy places and during the day. Shit was so irritating at first. I'm not used to female attention because back home you're worth less than a roach if u arent 6'5'' jacked with 5mil in the bank. Towards the end I started to enjoy the gaze a lot. Surely someone else in here experienced the same and got motivated to learn japanese, right?
>>482174575'9'' is average in japan, they probably just thought you're weird
>>48217477don't do me like that broski. imma go crop some of these stares I caught on cam and post them here. maybe they'll print a different picture.
should you learn osaka ben?
>implying you could
>>48217504yes, every anime has one of those fictive individuals
you dont get to choose a ben, the ben chooses you
japanese isn't spoken anywhere outside japan anyways
jotd: しっぺ返し
japanese has never been ranked as high as 7th in terms of total speakersat its peak it was 8th and going lower so if you teach your child the top 7 languages you won't be teaching japanese
>>48217819>at its peak it was 8thyou just said it was 7th once before so its peak should've been 7th place
>>48217859retard
>>48217819imagine learning hindi and chinese lmao
When I travel with people that only speak Japanese to other countries they are really handicapped. In Asia some people speak just enough to scam you but yea no one really speaks it outside of Japan. Native English is kino tbf
>>48217905>no one really speaks it outside of Japanhow to change this?
>>48217916create a new better internet but in japanese
>>48217867ok so you don't know how rankings work then...
>the meaning>onyomi>kunyomi>the strokes>all for a single fucking characterNot even 50 Kanjis and i'm about to fucking explode, this is too damn difficult. How the fuck did you guys managed?
by reading more
^omega dekinai post
>>48217905yh but its not worth travelling outside japan
>>48217997>How the fuck did you guys managed?someone post it
>>>/v/694483776
stfu analcream
>>48218220vocaroo
Why you learn Japanese?
>>48218232those are brazilians
>>48218308no you
>>48218192saddest djt regular award
code?
>>48218506https://streamable.com/94ozkh
new thread?
i need a really good op pic before i can make a thread and that takes time sorry
>>48217997Don't learn the individual kanji, learn vocabulary instead, eventually you'll naturally acquire most of the onyomi and kunyomi, and if you ever feel like it you can supplement your knowledge by going through the 漢検 Anki decks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDVZo9JJSUQanime is saved
>>48218776>>48218776>>48218776
>>48217997read https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kanji
>>48214032Nearly all of them dude.>>48214081>unicorn overlordI can't stand the pompous, faux-aristocrat dialogue the localizers pulled out of their asses in that game.>eternal arcadiaThis one is egregious. The translators admitted in an interview they threw the script out and "adlibbed it while watching the cutscenes" also "in the style of joss whedon".
>>48214576>how do you deal with unfamiliar kanji?Read more shounen/shoujo manga. It has furigana (mostly).
>>48218232At this stage? Sunk cost.
