Previous floor:>>48202035Two weeks since the release!Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkawNew child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NFElona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXExtra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htmElin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhhElin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wikiElin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
first for witch is best class
>>48219766Tourist
>>48219766Isn't that a class specializing in Alchemy which isn't yet implemented?
Fuck loytel
>>48219799While anyone can turn pets into brooms to ride on, Witches (broom) get a speed bonus while a Witch is riding one.But otherwise, yeah. With Alchemy not in yet to take advantage of the 'make more pots per craft' part of their feat, they're pretty much a Wizard with one less domain.
God I need custom AI. My Wini randomly goes melee and keeps using lower damage spells against single targets.
What can you even steal from enemies
>>48219864their heart
snail tourist
how do i fireproof something?
>>48220154Have fireproof blanet in your inventoryORTransform it into material not vulnerable to fireORBe wet
>>48220160ohhh yeah you know what it suddenly makes sense why my lightsaber became vulnerable to fire
>>48219864elites have surprisingly high rates of having magic gear, you can steal off the high level elites in war missions to get some pretty crazy stuff early
So uhhh, apparently Misaki when recruited starts off with no celestial fox tails(50 Life), but when you get the first one at feat 5 she jumps up to Celestial Fox 5(110 Life).
found a summoner staff. summoned some powerful mobs for early game. They are really carrying me
What is the point of "summon animal" if they become your ally and you cant attack them?
>>48220260samei summoned an alien, 2 boars, and 1 huskythey just clean the entire dungeon for me while i afk/wait
>>48220352meat shield
>>48220260How long do summons last?
Anyone found a way (console commands, mods or cheat engine) to start the Haunted Manor quest without being a backer?Also, has Noa said anything about when that's getting released for everyone?
>>48219851Let's pray to the GX gods...
>>48220377my first summons are still with me. So i guess until they die or you dismiss them
>>482204271.0 probably
>fought a boss so hard that I used all my healing spellsimagine being a healer and you run out of healing, it took me half hour of careful clickingall I could do was>teleport him somewhere with a rod>meditade and fill my sp>wait until he comes back>buff everyone, debuff him, hit him a few times>teleport him away>repeatI won but goddamint, I felt misareable
>>48220619The wonders of being a healer is that you can moonlight as a warrior monk who removes pain through death.
>>48220427I really hope I don't wait until full release to get a ghost daughter
Is hunger depletion and sleepiness a turn-based or a worldtime-based rate?
>>48220700turn
How do I change my player sprite to reflect the race I'm playing? Mine doesn't look like a fairy at all.
i still cant beat spiral kingcant even silence because he keeps resisting cant even use elemental shield because he does sound damagefucking awful fights
>>48220926You get a PCC that looks the way you want.
>>48220927What level do those show up, I've been wondering if my character can whoop them or not. Currently only getting around level 28-32 nefias which have been really easy for my setup.
>>48220927Funny that you say that right after I walked down some stairs and ran into 3 Spiral Kings.>>48220954I didn't start seeing them until 50+.
Is doing a gun-focused character viable? I want to have a plantation and use guns.
>diamond gauntlets is not fireproof?????
>>48221004It'll be a rough start since ammo is a consumable instead of being unlimited like it was in Elona.
>>48219864I haven't tried in Elin but in Elona humanoid mobs like Kobolds would be geared even if they only very rarely dropped their gear
...Do your pets also get their stats reduced by enemies and need to be healed?
Demitas my beloved
>>48221089Is Magic Arrow still the best spell? Can you get it to level 9000 trillion and one shot everything? Or are rest of spells more viable now?
>>48221107I'm playing sword sage so I don't have magic domain, doing wet from ice arrow to boost lightning intonation.If you want raw magical unga bunga then magic arrow would likely be good. As I heard insane resistances across the board was an elona+ phenomenon, ice/lightning has been working fine for me with elemental scar.
UOOOOOOOOHHH MY BELOVED PALULU
>Yar Craft Chinese version>Allows you to craft equipment.>You can learn low-level equipment from the beginning, but you need to have inspiration to learn high-level equipment (internal level 10 or higher)>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3365224617&searchtext=>https://github.com/hirmiura/elin-yar-craft/tree/mainHope this works and gets translated, adds basic wood, stone and metal equipment crafting.
Fox maid for tank and Quruitzia for range, what is a good medic pet?
why would masturbating give electricity
>>48221174jures pet is all you need
>wasted gold on a maid that has cleaning as a job but doesn't cleanAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>48221249I'm no changing god, I'm not a slut
How inevitable is the iron ball? Does removing all container (excluding the main backpack) from you then filling all item slots (equips, hotkeys, etc) before changing gods not avoid it?
One of my pets keeps dominating golems and they block my view too much so I made a thing
>really really want to cook better foods>Stuff like cooker/BBQ etc cost 40 tickets and the craft recipe is nowhere to be found Why is it so hard to make better food....
>>48221355Just spam the quest board and trade your influence for tickets
>>48221402Do you just own every item in the game?
>>48221428I mostly just do quests and neglect my base so all of my influence goes to rerolling for more quests
>>48221428NTA, but once you start getting lods of passive emone you can blow it all on shop investments because each investment will give you 1 influence. And while payments eventually become exorbitantly expensive, it starts off at a very low cost of around ~100-300. You do it at a place with a lot of vendors like Mysilia for ezpz influence and even (((merchant))) quest contribution.
Why is this a thing?
>>48221484Is that wooden weapon?
>>48221487And stone.
>>48221491Cursed.
>scatspammingOkay, which one of you fucks are doing that
>>48221519Wot, are you able to send stuff to people? I thought it was a singleplayer game.
>>48221523It's being sent at the /v/ thread instead
>>48221519>>48221531he's been doing it all day and yesterday as well. apparently even spammed CP
>>48219735
>>48221141With the update pace Noa's on for early access, seems like it would be a pain to maintain any complex gameplay mod.
I drew my Mani Halberd+Gun guy. Games fun
>>48221607Makes me wish I could draw halfways worth a shit. Nice one anon.
>>48221484Alpha 20.16 2024/1/2 patch note >Individual recipes for weapons and armor, other than the initial recipes, were abolished just before the alpha release as they were not particularly interesting to craft and led to an excess of production facilities. Although it will be some time, we plan to introduce special equipment crafting and existing equipment enhancement.So soon(tm)
>>48221607Cool! I love halberds, good job anon!
Anyway I can get a shitton of bait without using the farm/house? I really dont care for basebuilding but I want Ehekatl's stuff.
Also also, how much skill in sleight of hand do I need to steal a King's bed? Haven't found a tent either.
Fuck you.
>>48221738the only thing you need is a composting box and a hammergather a fuckton of flowers and mushrooms (and hearts and offal) and throw them in the composting box, break the fertilizer into corpses with a hammer, and turn the corpses into fishing bait
So before i put time into testing this, has anyone tried staggering when they plant their crops to get around the fertility limit? I feel having the auto farming set up with a bunch of plots planted in two day intervals or something would just massively increase the amount you can afk farm, right? asking bc I don't see anything about it online
>>48221758>Domains: Deep, Dark, Fantasy
Any games like Elin but actually good?
>>48221911there's a game called elin it's pretty goodelona's good tooADoM and ToME4
>>48221470>~100-300Wait, what? I've been neglecting it since I'm used to it costing a couple thousand in Elona...
>>48221927I think I'll try Elin.
>>48221319Only way to avoid it is to be a demigod.
>>48222017I feel like Demigod is specifically designed for the traditional 'gotta get them all' god switching that was done in Elona. Faster Faith gain and no Divine Punishment, whether you're altar converting or switching gods.Because of Demigod's immunity to Divine Punishment, it's actually worth creating your own Truce Ground in your own land by collecting Ehekatl altars (since they weigh 80kg each), having at least one of them to each individual gods, and then having a huge stockpile of 'extra altars' that purely exist to convert to the current god you're grinding. After all, you won't get punished for failed attempts, so you can just keep going at it without needing to reload the game.
I lose my follower when I switch gods right?
>>48222074That's really all Demigod has going for it. But since the god equipment have faction bonuses as one of their main features now and you can only have two apostles at once, going through all the gods isn't as appealing.>>48222080No. However, you can only have two god pets at once in your party.
>>48222082Isn't the two apostles thing only for pets in your current party? You can still collect as many as you want, so long as the rest are sitting at home somewhere. And while Elin rewards you more on how long you've been with an individual god with the faith-based stat gains, one could see the ability for Demigod to switch through gods quickly as a good thing in this sense, since you can collect them all before finally settling down on an individual god (or returning to Eyth of Void).Otherwise grinding god weapons are still worth it, because even when you're no longer part of that faith, not all of the enhancements on that weapon stop working. The Earth Hammer is a good example of this, with the Lucky Dagger and Kogitsunemaru being the most heavily affected (Lucky Dagger just becomes a short sword that protects you from thieves, Kogitsunemaru just becomes a self-cursing long sword)
literally me
How do I bring back home the altar I found in the wild?
>>48222119You pick it up and carry it home, if you aren't Squished from doing so. Or have the Golden Knight carry it for you if they can do so, if you happen to have one
>>48222098Yeah, some of the weapons are still great without the faction bonuses. There's also the Winchester Premium which is pretty notable as well for being a gun that deals area damage. But I'm of the opinion that for the most part, there isn't as much purpose to collecting all the worship rewards owing to only being able to have two apostles in your party, since you'll have to leave the rest at home, and unless you're willing to constantly swap them in and out and also keep up with improving their stats constantly, you're probably better off just sticking with what you're allowed to have. This is a particular point with the backer god apostles, as they have NPCs that are functionally the same as the apostles, you just need to go out of your way to recruit them. Of course I'm also someone who ran to the truce grounds as fast as possible to worship Jure and never turned back, so I am definitely highly opinionated.
why does my power go out whenever I try to actually use the gene machineI'm at 180/220MW with the gene machine down and powered on. all I have is a cooler chest and the gene machineI set it up to go and put a gene in a pet and left on a month-long runaround trip and came back and all the fish stacked up from my fishers is rotten, and my pet did not gain holy miasma
>>48221174Carbuncle, you can get a free one in the Yowyn cat cafe (needs ~40 charisma)
is there any way to have floating damage numbers?
>>48222201it's right at the top of experimental settings>>48222156actually now that I'm here again it's just shorting all the time even with the gene machine powered offit's inside and it's not even raining. do generators just go bad over time, or something? that's can't be right
By Jure-sama, this was driving me insane and they've finally changed it!>You can now make Strings out of any sort of Thread material now, making String and Tight Rope no longer locked onto VinesNo longer do I have to farm vines while Nefia to make sure I have enough string sitting around! Just means I gotta farm more Silk instead from cobwebs, but that's fine because of the Level 4 Healing/Comfort effect it has.
>>48222220Once you've gotten some Snow Putits and a pair of shears or some cotton growing you can just use that too.
this shit does not functionhas anybody ever actually used the gene machine successfully
>>48222277I should make the Snow Putit you get at New Years' a Livestock but it tends to spawn with good job/hobby, so I end up treating it as a normal Resident instead
>>48221828Aside from freshly planted seeds, plants consume their full fertility regardless of growth stage.
>>48222352ah, okay. as but a humble mushroom farmer i was not aware of this, thank you anon
>>48222220Cotton, man.
What are the actual mechanics with DV, PV and elemental resists? I can't tell what's a lot and what's not much.
>>48222415DV helps with evasion, while PV helps with damage reduction (straight out -damage? Forgot if it had a specific formula other than that), while elemental resists are damage reductions on a % basis (in Elin, 16 Resist makes you immune to that element's status ailment (e.g. Burn, Poison) and possibly the actual damage itself, and elemental resistance also makes you deal more (spell?) damage in with that element)
>>48222309yes
In Elin, how do you bless a stack of items instead of just one at a time? Can't seem to get it working like in elona
>>48222537you can't do that anymore. one blessed water is one blessed item, that's it
>>48221331You made this yourself? Pretty cool if not slopped
>>48221607SOVL
>>48222528is there something I have to do besides have a higher number of MW generated than would be consumed by my current electronicswhy does my generator short when it's inside and there's 40MW of spare power
>>48222309>pantsu in hotbar
How does element works in this game?Do they have the usual "Fire beat Ice, Ice beat Electric" and so on? How does Light, Darkness and Aether play out?
>have been using holy on undead imagining they're weak to it>get the mod that shows info>as far as I can tell nothing is weak to holy, should've been using fire on undead instead
Why cant you just pick where on the map you want your first town, Vernis is the story town anyway. Want to build my new endgame town but hearth 1 building sucks.
>>48222651nothing's notably weak to it but nothing resists it either
>>48222625There's nothing of that sort in Elona/Elin. While some monsters do take on the elemental weakness trope (e.g. undead being weak to fire), they exist more as damage source mitigation (and buffs in Elin)
>>48222617i have the same issue sometimes and i dont have an idea
>>48222625its use your shit so much that resistances almost dont matter
Btw, hitting a training dummy with magic gets you exp for that magicIf I hit more than one training dummy with AoE magic does that give me more exp?
>>48222391You expect me to use such peasant material? Only the finest silks for me and my harem!
This is peak elin gaming
>>48222920go back to >>>/vt/ retard
>>48222937otaku culture
>>48222937>Go back to /vt/>/jp/ itself has vtuber threadsAre you sure you're in the right place? You probably intended to post in /v/
>>48222950Is dead.
petitioning noa to have Horome's mana drain work with touch spells because i think that would be funny
>>48222937shes japanese so its ok
>>48222966You seem to be one who came from /v/, /jp/ has been seething against /vt/rannies for ages now due them spamming the board with offtopic garbage to get their generals off the board faster so they can shit another one when it hits reply limit.
why is she like this
>>48223059That's exactly why /vt/ was created, but that's primarily because Hololive (and Nijisanji, for some time) exploded in popularity among the west. I mean, threads for those two still exist in /jp/ but at least they're not as batshit insane as /vt/ in general are. I still remember when they were mostly people posting links of vtubers currently streaming, not the clipping culture video posts people seem to love now.But I digress. Maybe there isn't so many western streamers streaming Elin (I only look at Youtube), but there has been a number of small Japanese indie vtubers and streamers streaming the game. The one posted by that anon is one of the few 3view streamers that have been streaming the game, at one point doing 12+6 hour streams due to Elin addiction.Are you dissatisfied that Elin is having attention as streaming material, wishing Elin to remain some super niche game that only a small group of people (mostly /jp/) talk about?
>>48223230I don't want Elin to be ruined by woke normie shit the same way CDDA was
>>48223288>the same way CDDA wasanon.... cdda was always like that...
>>48223288You can't avoid that. You do know how Elin actually became what it currently is, right? Elin in its various forms during the Alpha stage was just Noa dipping his toes back into making a game based on Elona but not fully getting into it. But then, eventually Noa was convinced into committing fully on Elin via kickstarter, by... Reddit.Yeah, there's an Elin subreddit, and the people there convinced Noa to start a kickstarter campaign to work on Elin. Noa himself was initially reluctant to start a kickstarter for Elin, fearing that he might disappoint backers if he was to lose interest and abandoned Elin.So, the driving seat has always been the Elin subreddit (and subsequent Discord for it). /jp/'s Elin thread is only one of the passengers for the ride, and likely not even the one sitting at the front next to them.
>>48223230>Are you dissatisfied that Elin is having attention as streaming material,>YouThis might come as a surprise but there is more than 2 people browsing this website, i am not that guy, i just explained why people have such reaction against people who post vtubers here.
I have 32 hours in this game and only now i discovered that there are dungeons called Dark Forests. I never noticed them before because the tree sprite makes them looks like part of the overworld and not a dugeon lol.
>>48223477they are just called forests anon they change the adjectives every nefia
>>48223536Well i did not know forest nefies existed either lol
Does it matter where i fish? Are there exclusive fishing drops depending of location?
>>48223577theres nonejust fish anywhere
>>48223577I fish in paddy fields, because the only places with open water like that in my home is the place where I grow rice and wheat (mostly rice)
kinda new to Elin, played a bit of Elona+ but didn't get too into itis there a way to recharge rods? I just got a rod of identify and I'd rather recharge that than hope I get another one in Nefia
>>48223737>is there a way to recharge rods?elona plus yes elin no
Where do i get runes to craft? Or are they not implemented in the game yet?
>let garbage pile up for weeks>collect it all and throw it in the shipping containerlooks like its someone else's problem now
>>48223771not implemented
>>48223791For me is dropping them off when exploring. This is what we pay taxes for, right?
Can my Little Girl learn new skills from trainers or feats? I noticed she has feat points but I don't see any list to let her learn from. I'm trying to turn my Little Girl into a support type mage since I started as a warrior.
>>48223791hammer garbage for crafting materials
>>48223880Hammering garbage also gives you Crafting exp because it takes stamina, I believe. But it uses stamina based on how many things you're hammering, so if you try to hammer 100 burnable garbage with just 50 stamina, you'll instantly die due to -50 stamina or so
Do ranged weapons have any penalities based on range?
>>48223969Their optimal range is displayed on the popup
should we compile a list of early strategies that require less IQ to understand than the wiki so when Seth inevitably makes the video about Elin we have a way to handle the influx of newfags
i just got platinum material hammer. any good suggestions on what to use it on?
>>48224115Yes.
>>48224120Get on it then, I just know how to make Bonitoflake wine.
Arent shadows supposed to self destruct? I summoned some form a scroll now and they are attacking normally.
>noodles dont rotintredasting
>>48224161maybe you used an ally scroll?
>>48223841yes but through genesthe gene machine is quite expensive so you will probably only get one end game unless you do shipping autism
>>48224348Nah, after i cleared a dungeon and then started a quest to kill some stuff they ended up self destructing at quest, killing me during it too lol.
How do sockets work? Where do I get whatever is put in them, how do I put it in and is it possible to retrieve a slotted effect? I made a bunch of onyx canes and they all came with a socket, some of them already filled, and if possible I'd like to take out those effects and apply them to other weapons.
does this have any consequences
>>48219735>GoldbergI could play the pirated game just fine without that... What would happen to my Steam account?
>>48225309so far there is only 1 thing you can fuck up in this game and you cant access it right now
>>48225305I didn't realize canes had them, but it's the same as for other ranged weapons. You need barrel processing machine and breaking powder to change them. There's on in Mysilla castle
>>48225305You use Modification Tools to add an effect to the socket. These Modification Tools are usually very specific about what they add and can be bought from a few shopkeepers (forgot which ones specifically). The more 'rare' the ranged weapon is, the more slots it can potentially have.These Modification Tools can be removed using a Barrel Processing Station. You can buy the recipe and craft them, though according to the wiki there is already one somewhere in Mysilia. To remove them at all though you need another item called Breaking Powder; you can craft them but not sure if you can buy those.
does anyone actually play permadeath?
>>48225684that would be extremely retarded when theres still bugs
>>48225684I tried it a few times in Elona and really don't want to do it again. No savescum is as far as I go
>>48225480>>48225487If you remove the socketed thing is it lost or do you get it back?
am i missing something, it's the holy night festival and i'm not getting blessed bottle of water from this well
>>48225764Because that's a normal well. Just like in Elona, you're wanting to dip empty bottles at the Holy Well behind the church up the top-right
>>48225777well that does it, shame i only got 4 bottles out of it
>>48225811It refills again every year, so you can just wait it out or get other sources of Potions of Water and bless it by Offering it to your god (if you have one; if you Offer them to an altar of a god you're not worshiping they curse them instead).If you want a semi-reliable way of getting Potions of Water for 'free', consider getting Residents with 'Bathing' hobby - they can produce Potions of Water once in a while.
Is Horome shrine available in the wild?
>>48225829>Its bath water isn't it.
>>48224118preez respond
>>48226200theres so many stuff you can do with it toolsweapons armorsammo
does it work the way i think it would?
>>48226359>gets crushed
Has anyone tried capturing melilith's nightmare? I don't know if 2x2 boss monsters can be captured
Does a statue I made with sculpting table and figure dropped by monster count as same exhibit if it's the same monster?
is the kitchen knife from miral and garokk's workshop useful for a short sword user? I'm currently using a 4d4 swordthe wiki says it's 1d27 but I don't know if the stats are tied to my current stats
witch sisters...
I bought my flower girl gunner 50 iron bullets for her gun and they all disappeared. Why?
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
>>48226745she ate it>>48226687its good but theres better>>48226381you cant catch elite and boss monsters
>>48226917>its good but theres betteryeah I know, I'm just looking for an improvement over my shitty short swordI'm primarily a bow user but I melee ez enemies
>>48226956if you dont have it yet i suggest you save and buy the helmet
>>48220352There are some very good animals. Caladrius is a resurrect/AOE heroism caster with a very low level.
>>48226917>you cant catch elite and boss monstersgoddamnit noa
What's a good way to earn gold bars fast?
>>48227085Pay extra taxes. For every 1000 gold extra in taxes you pay, Mysilia will send back 1 gold bar. Pay 20k extra in taxes and you get 20 gold bars.
>>48227085Mine dirt blocks
>>48225843Gamer Girl
>>48226971what's good about it? the perma see invisible thing?
>>48224118Hammering is one of those things that will take a long thing to explore. Every single item in the game is technically a crafting recipe for hammers, and most of them aren't very useful.
the feeling of constantly tinkering with and adding to a content mod idea.txt when you have no coding background or modding experience
anyone got a worldmap image yet?
>>48227184thats one of the good things
>>48227156Can you elaborate?>>48227233"World map" on Wiki.
Put an egg on a makeshift bed. How many days until it hatches? Do I need to stay in town with it?
>>48224118If you collect a bunch of dirty water from ruins, you can hammer them into quartz sand logs, and then use them to make glass equipment at the carpentry table. It isn't very strong but boosts speed, which is useful for a lot of general out of combat stuff and requests.
>>48227263It's random. I placed 6 eggs at the same time and last 2 took extra 2-3 weeks.
>reached Vermis>killed everything on the first floor of the dungeon>can't open the locked door>quest says to check the quest board>there's only random questswhat do I do now to progress? do I need vermis lvl2?
I just fucking hate how pet feats work and this gene bullshit
ty anon.
>>48226363strength issue
>>48227315RIP pet [Little Sister]s
>>48227315it's pretty assespecially since it feels like you need two generators to even use the gene machineletting the player control pet feats just the way a PC's are, even if it's 3x or 2x as expensive, would be massively preferable
>>48227315It would be amazing for getting extra spells/skills if we had custom AI.
>>48227381>if we had custom AII beg the mod gods to make a fucking custom AI mod...UOOOOHHH PLEASE CUSTOM GX I BEG YOUUUU
>>48227137>pay 1000 gold>get a copper bar
why did sort stop auto-stacking my duplicate scrolls
>>48227255Mine dirt blocks in caves and depending on your mining level you will have a chance at it dropping a gold bar/earth crystal/sun crystalBetter chances the higher your mining Clearing out every block in a floor nets me around 12-15 gold bars at 19 mining
>>48227423Does it depend on floor level?
>>48227437Not that im aware ofI also haven't tried clearing out stone/granite yet because i literally can just hold down the mouse button and zigzag and entire floor fairly fastAlso bring a hammock to get your stamina back instantly because you will run out
>>48220352>you can't attack themYou bet your ass I beat the firehound that I summoned to a pulp once I realized he had no reservations against napalm bombing friendlies.
Im playing a mage but am dying too oftenWhere can I get an early meatshield to tank damage for me other than my bear cub
>>48227476Little Girl is the best starting pet
custom ai is unironically cheating
Is your tent gone if you forget it in an instance?
>>48227476Believe in some god. Fox maid, militant and defender are good tanks.
>>48227528>custom ai is unironically cheatingYes, and?
>>48227476Slave market in derphy. Just get anyone with human slots and armor them up. Animals die because they have bad armor, but usually have high speed. Also arm every pet with a ranged weapon.
>>48227558>Also arm every pet with a ranged weapon.doesn't this cause problems with them not using the best skills and weapons they have?
Noa definitely reads these threads>>48201546
>>48227612This was a common complaint
noa I know you browse these threads, give white vixen holy bits and let me brew beer from wheat and sake from rice
Can the mages guild still reserve spellbooks for you? I’m running low on Slow and Speed.
>>48227314Did you talk to Ash? Did you check your quest board in Meadow and not Vernis?
Can you get married in this game
>>48227735No, spellwriter comes from the Vernis questline now.
>>48227612I think it's more likely that someone Noa takes feedback from monitors these threads. Although, I do think the Palmia Times seems suspiciously similar to those Elona shitpost OPs.
>>48227765Please answer I need my free ether disease antibody
>>48227879Go to the arcade and you can shoot hoops for free it doesn’t even cost anything!
>>48227686I feel like White Vixen should've been classed as a Priest instead and be treated that way. Maybe it was supposed to be a pure support role initially but it was changed to what it was because having her play like what a Mifu is 'supposed' to play (spamming buffs and debuffs and generally be in a support role) made the Mifu Priest player themselves redundant, or made the game too easy (I haven't seen anything run out of MP so far) or caused her to explode early into a fight from instantly dropping into negative MP due to the increased cost for casting party-wide (from the fact that Fox Maid can cast Hero on others as a single-target spell, support spells were probably able to be cast on others initially but was changed to self or party only)?White Vixen counting as a Wizard makes me feel like she's supposed to be a Bolt variant of the Exile, who spams Arrow spells like no tomorrow, without the very thing that makes the Exile so powerful (the Continuous Casting feat). The whole 'converts cursed/doom items into spell exp' is kind of vague as well; does the White Vizen get the exp, or are pets unable to learn new spells at all unless you shove Genes into them?Though I suppose if it's purely because they didn't want Backer god pets to be too powerful since they're supposed to be Minor gods, then well.
>>48227964>support spells were probably able to be cast on others initially but was changed to self or party onlyBut you can still cast buffs on individual party members if you want.
What's the point of rods and scrolls? They're too limited to rely upon and clutter up your inventory. Meanwhile a spellbook gives a couple dozen casts right into your head.
>>48228033You can use rods and scrolls don't fail, so you can use them if you're dimmed or silenced. They don't consume MP.
>>48228006Are you talking Elona or Elin? In Elin, for Holy Shield and Hero, I can clearly see it saying 'Self or Party' for Target. You can't hold the spell onto your 'hand' like Weakness to select who to target; right-clicking the spell will immediately cast the spell on yourself, unless you hold-click, then it casts it over your entire party instead at 2x MP cost. Even the healing spells are the same. Unless you're playing some sort of modded game that changed how those spells work, that is.
>>48228062Hold Middle Mouse Button to put it into your hand. Or put it on the hotbar and scroll down to select it.
>>48227964bolt damage and effective area is just kind of ass, especially for an NPC that can't consciously line up shots, and wizard does literally zilch for her because her domains don't intersect with her spells. if she was a priest she'd at least get more favor bonuses and have the holy domain. having two different bolt spells is also just kinda lame.I think she'd probably be fine if she at least actually used kizuami's trick but she doesn'tthe spell XP thing is worthless for characters that don't cast spells, too. the XP goes to the PC, not her. when I first got her I thought she'd be able to learn random spells by feeding her cursed equipment but nope, I gained a level of blood boltI don't think it's a matter of wanting to keep backer content down because the militant is extremely good, warmonger is fucking amazing, and yevan's favor buffs are absurd, and the "alternate" versions of all the god pets that you can get in the wild (eureka and the two fox mikos) are insanekizuami had nice generalist favor bonuses too and horome seems extraordinarily good for gish characters. kizuami's weapon is probably BIS for anyone (or a pet) just using debuffs, and horome's artifact is the only artifact weapon in the game that boosts spells without you worshiping herI think it's just an oversight, something that got lost when they were shuffling her around. if I had any modding ability I'd fix her by just creating a custom class that's an alternative "laser cleric" style priest instead of the mail and mace type cleric that's present. eg wizard base skills/potentials with holy/lightning/nether domains, magic mastery 1, and devout 1, and just assigning that to herbut also giving her holy bits because a fox that doesn't summon little balls of fire that shoot things is a bunch of bullshit. nether bolt, holy bits, and kizuami's trick being used, as well as that class change, and she'd be a pretty worthy god petI'd also like to do something about the spell xp thing. maybe just a bit of a random potential instead, so it's not only worth it for casterstoo bad I don't know how to read!
>>48228080I was going to say that it sounded like an oversight, but then when you look at the Help section under 'Guide [Gameplay] - Using Abilities', it does say that for support spells ('abilities with a green icon depicting two humanoids'), if you wanted to select a target, you indeed do need to move it down to your action bar, set the ability as your current action (the 'scroll down to select it') and then specify target.I feel like they could've just made it like that in the first place instead of 'Self or Party'? I only run around with one other companion right now, so I feel like I've been wasting so much MP and opportunities where I didn't heal or buff them because it felt like a waste spending 2x MP just to heal/buff them over using a Rod of Critical Cure or throwing similar pots over them. I've actually been playing as a pure offensive Priest purely because I thought I couldn't individually heal/buff allies.
Should I be riding my little girl instead of Loytel? Loytel's HP is shit and I assume the little girl is a tank since she taunts.
If the Little Girl is worshiping Jure, does she get the Lay On Hands ability because of Defensive Instinct? I've never actually seen her use it, but that's because I tend to roll non-Jure Little Girls
>>48228142You should ride whomever has the highest speed so ideally neither of them.
>>48228158Maybe anon is a snail
>Loytel helps us found Vernis in Elin>Loytel becomes an angry drunk hanging out in the Vernis pub murdering every single bard with his holy stone 30 years later in ElonaWhat happened to you bro...
>>48228197that's loyter and he has red hair, broand that red hair had to come from somewhere...
Is there a way to buy the game without steam?
>>48228202Well, I wonder who has red hair that hangs around your home with Loytel
>>48228202>Loytel>Loyter>loiterat last, I finally see.
>>48228211You don't have Steam?
>>48228202Japanese makes no difference between l and r.
>>48228220it's too cumbersome to install for one game since I don't play anything elseI would buy it on GOG but I presume it's going to be steam only due to the frequent updatescurrently playing pirated v23.23 off TPB, what's the current version?it's pure jap kino so far
>>48228211He pushes small updates constantly and it has built-in mod support so you may as well just get Steam
>>48228221I am aware, however, they are still not the same person
>>48228224Currently it's at version 23.26 EA, and there's both a Nightly and EA build, with the Nightly build getting more experimental stuff added first before it gets shipped to the EA build. So far the EA build has been getting updates every day, so unless pirates also update their torrent every day, you'll inevitably fall behind.
>>48228226>>48228236I guess I'm gonna get it thenalso, it's funny how some /rlg/ denizens act tsundere about the game because it's not entirely a roguelike but it's still good
>>48228257A lot of modern controllers don't work worth a shit for me unless I add the game to Steam first, whether pirated or emulated, so don't feel bad about the bloat.
>>48226745NPCs don't use ammo, they replicate the ammo that was in the gun when it was given to them.Also the NPC probably sold the ammo (if it was gifted) or it got destroyed by ice damage?
>>48228202Loyer's from Zanan, so his background is pretty much incompatible with Loyel.
>>48228271>NPCs don't use ammo, they replicate the ammoWas just changed in a patch
>>48228221They do distinguish Roiteru and Roitaa however
I really hope an update / mod comes along that adds "STOP FUCKING EQUIPPING SHIT IN YOUR OFF HAND" to the actually... dialogue.
my retarded cat godwife will be so happy
>>48228341...which one is the offhand, not the top one right
I have a question for Elona. If you can summon gods, does that mean you can recruit them or marry them?
>>48228364Ye, but god races got stat penalty when joining the party.
I wish ether disease was sexually transmittedso I could pass all the good ones to my pets
>>48228374How bad?
>>48228385Pretty badhttps://elona.fandom.com/wiki/God_recruiting_penalty
Do allies get rewards from their gods?
>>48228341Yeah, really wish you could tell your companions to stick to two-handing a weapon instead of going straight to dual wielding when ever you want to give them a better weapon.
>>48228430Pets praying as part of the Perfect Follower feat is just so that they level up their Faith, and thus get a bigger stat bonus from their god
>buy the level uncap level 50 nefias>rather than mirages and eldritch i get yeek bossesit actually got easier
how does dream larva work? i keep using it on people. but nothing happens
>>48228343I went for Kumiromi with my first character because I wanted to focus on farming, but now that I've read up on both mechanics and lore, I'm definitely going Ehekatl if I ever start a new char.Also, gripe: Farming skill is based on endurance but Kumiromi doesn't boost endurance. also kinda sad cooking isn't in his skills either.
>>48228158How do I see their speed stats?
>>48228497Stethoscope sold by Farris(wheel).
>>48228497>>48228503Keep in mind that the stethoscope only has limited uses.There's a mod on the workshop that makes this infinite.
>>48228271Turns out it got put into storage. I read anons talking about NPCs having to use ammo after a patch. Turns out anons are incorrect.
>>48228511Patch notes said otherwise. Maybe it's only for non-pet NPCs? Free shrugs
what fun content is present currently? I just took the sexy trait when do I get pregnant? how do I sexo monsters? was it possible in Elona?
>>48220427The worst part is that the breaker (used to turn generators on) is in the ghost manor so you have to wish for one to turn a generator back on.>>48221141>>48221484Its super easy to add recipes/items to the game. The only problem is that you can't (yet) enchant items with additional effects so the crafted gear falls off really hard but they're a good stop gap if you have a lot of pets and just need some DV,PV gear or a specific weapon type.
>>48228560It would certainly be nice to give my residents iron armor so they can tank a few more hits
>>48228463You have to blend it with food then gift them the food. It's basically an organic love potion
What happens if one of my recruited residents dies???
When you expand territory does it expand in every direction? Think I might start building a village at the bottom and leave room at the top to make a hill castle type thing when I get expansion room.
>>48228631They'll respawn in about a week.
gene machine should allow you to change the race (feats, base stats/potentials, equipment slots) of a character into that of another race rather than being the sole source of non-statistical growth for pets, who should just be able to spend their feat pointsmove the function for gaining new spells and abilities to rare grimoires found in nefias. or, better yet, make it so that if you recruit a creature, it can teach its ability/spell to another creature with time and money for training. obviously up to limit. like a pet starts with three learning points and spells/abilities take 1-5 points to learn. and you can get rare consumables that increase the number of learning points a pet has up to 5, or something. so you COULD have a lay on hands army but it would involve having a bunch of 5LP pets with nothing else learned
Do garbage cans need to be shared?
Does potential boost from crop cultivation cap out at 7?
>worship Mani>takeover the golems in the main story fightI was wondering why the fight was so easy
>>48228708The golems were the easy part, it took me forever to grind down the main fucker.
>>48228708when I went to that fight my golden knight wife rushed in and procced earth hammer's earthquake and the fight was instantly overI think the expectations are that you go there pretty early
>>48228731The fight was on a staircase so I literally just went upstairs and meditated over and over
How the heck do I raise my farming (efficiently?). I assume this is why my crops are currently capped at +5.
>>48228575Here you go, I added notes on how to add your own recipes/items. (This includes a custom recipe for turning scrap into ore at a 2 to 1 ratio, as well as turning bone into needles).https://files.catbox.moe/f5uj13.zipPlace the folder in "...\Elin\Package"Also I looked at YarCraft, it adds quite a lot of bloat when you could just, you know add easy material conversion like that one other mod instead of making 4 different copies of the same item for each of the crafting stations.
>>48228753I used the tent but as I did that he healed too so a back and forth was just bleeding me resources.
What do the Geyser and local commodity land feats do? And how do I use Specialized Skill books on my allies?
how easy is it to add custom monsters/NPCs
How do I make my generators work when it's raining
>>48228773put a roof over them?
>>48228773man those stupidass things don't even work when it's not raining. mine goes out constantlyI want to get a second one to see if it can keep consistent power and actually let the gene machine stay powered for 84 hours, but I'm still just making PCC part sprites instead of grinding aquli teola tickets
Watching some JP streamers, I can see a variety of playstyles already between them:- Streamer A: 5 years into the game (Year 490) -- has a fancy looking house that have all the walls and furniture dyed, actual flooring on floors, separate rooms for storage, workshop, living space and bedrooms-- Low gold bars and plat for a 5-year character, stats aren't very impressive but is a Pianist who started with a Cerberus (bought for 39k from the Animal Trainer), now has a fire and ice drake with them while riding a pet of a sort- Streamer B: 3 years into the game (Year 498)-- Absolute minimalist base with containers and workshops stacked on top of each other, only building is a tiny grass building containing the Generator; Meadow pond has a sawmill and 20 or so Brewery Barrels nearby-- A Golem(?) that has both Opatos and Kurimori's artifacts as his dual wield weapon, has both the Golden Knight and Fairy as his only out pets + riding pet and hash about 700 HP and Str and End hitting 100's, also casually carrying around 200k Orens, 300 Gold Bars and 900 PlatinumWhich sort of player are you? Or at least, the player you planned to be but ended up doing. I personally haven't done the whole fish flake wine factory that is making people bank yet, and don't intend to do so at all.>>48228517That part of the patch is probably to do with an earlier patch that made ammo now take material into consideration or something like that, so I guess the intent is that pets can 'switch ammo' as well this way. I notice that sometimes when you hand a pet a loaded gun and take it back without them shooting it at all, it comes back with 0 ammo
How in the world do I succeed the 1000+ music quests with any regularity. I've got 80 music and it seems this all comes down to me being able to find the largest pile of npcs within 12 moves or I automatically lose.I've tried using wands/potions of speed like some steam posts said but it seemed to make little to no difference in my performance being just short on average.
>>48228794>Which sort of player are you?The first. I wouldn't be playing if there was no base building.
>>48228795Just like the Harvest Time quests, comes down complete to RNG unfortunately. The 'birthday party' mats kind of help with the NPC density a little, but otherwise it's pretty much having fast speed and maybe using Telepathy to find out where the densest NPCs are from the start. To save 2 or more turns, preferably you'd use (Potion of) Speed and Telepathy before picking up the music quest so that you can see right away where you roughly might need to go. If you're fancy, you could consider using Magic Map right when you enter just so that you can see if what looked like a dense pack of NPCs were actually separated by a wall or not.
>>48228794I'm closer to A than B I'm 493 and started with the RP goal of having all the top class adventures fight for me as my main thing was just being a singer. So I split my time slowly working on my house while thinking about making an inn in the middle of the permafrost and seeing how far I can get into the void I don't think I'm good by any means nor I follow any "meta" but I'm happy.
>>48228794somewhere in the middle. 4.5 years, I only have meadow built at all and it's a constant WIP because I can't settle on where things should go as my property expands. I can't find nice flooring tiles like carpets and I want some proper brick walls. "some day" I plan on building vernis into elona vernis, but I want to get meadow sorted out. I also want to build a snowy mountaintop castle at some point but you can't make stairs yet.I'm usually floating at around 100k orens with bottomed out platinum/gold bars. I'll get up to ~100 plat and then run around grabbing some training and I spend gold as fast as I can make it almost. my pets I bring out are a PCC golden knight, a nearly-fully-homemade-by-me PCC militant, and a lich I haven't made PCC parts for and am not confident in my ability to do a cool job of. plus the skeleton mod doesn't do what I want, so he's just the base sprite because it's cool. I have an imp I captured and turned into a cute PCC, a mother who popped out of a box in year one who I recruited because she'd been around long enough, white vixen, starting girl, and older little sister at base plus some genericsI also have a side game where I'm struggling as a fox wizard and I want to focus on building a pretty onsen-tavern but that's a whole other game
>>48228794B, for sure. I'm a murderhobo in nature so I gravitate towards a playstyle that lets me kill shit and collect loot that will let me kill shit harder. Ain't nobody got time for building when there's nefias yet to be plundered!
>>48228794I'm not min-maxing so probably a bit closer to A than B. About two years in and I'm trying to make an army of Silver Bells while completing the main story (just finished the second boss). I really need to set up a god farm so my bells can actually get some stats and rubynus gear.
>>48228828thanks anon, it never dawned on me to use something as obvious as telepathy or map.
>>48228898If only there were a similar sort of solution for Harvest Time, but alas, the plants to be harvested are mindless and Magic Map only does so much. The main thing for Harvest Time really is having high Speed, Cat's Eyes (or Potion of Infravision) active if entering the map at night, then hoping that you find legendary potatoes (imo) or tomatoes as soon as possible. Cabbages are okay, but I'm assuming Grapes are bugged as I can only ever gather 1 Grape from any sort of Grape vine and thus they should always be avoided unless absolutely desperate.
>>48228941ah fuck that grape thing suddenly explains a lot of failures
>>48228794I've been building up the base for about 3 years mostly as a means to raise my stats, which aren't amazing but are now expanding rapidly. Naturally, my gear is all grass and cloth and I'm scared to go in Nefias over level 5.
Got a bit bored of quest spamming for generators, gonna side track and collect all god pets and weapons.
how the frick do you guys get 1000x multipliers on putit tossi used to be so sick at those shitty flash games and now i cant even ball...
Didn't pay my taxes for 4 months.
>>48228994Either you're consistent enough and/or lucky enough to get pink putits to lower the Miss score, or you run a macro to throw for you at a consistent rate (600ms or something?). Note that if you throw a Putit while a Putit is already in the air and hasn't gone through the loop yet, it counts as both a Hit and a Miss. Make sure you wait until the Putit goes through the hoop and you see/hear the score indicator tone before throwing your next one.
>>48228994Around 700ms with a 2000ms delay between throws.
>>48228994Don't try to time it, look at position of your character's clothes vs frame of screen. For me it's when belt touches the border
>>48228794B but my stats look like A
>Have the Side Screen widget on, put the extra bags' open inventories in the Side Screen and lock them so that they're always displayed>This makes the extra bags inventories always shown there, while not covering your game screen with the multiple bagsI should consider doing that, so that I don't end up with other bags/chests/containers opening under existing extra inventory positions
>>48228994>>48229035This and also don't do it too fast since it seems to bug out the goal registration.You have 5 lives and red putits give extra lives so it's actually pretty forgiving.
so how doeshosting/symbiosisworkexactly?
Should I make my base out of rare materials or just use cheap shit and dye it? Does the architecture add any value to your property?
Is there any sort of notification when taxes are taken out of my bank? Or how does this work because I'm not seeing anything?
Crop item quality is supposed to go up every +10, right? But that isn't happening for me, it's much random and usually earlier. Is that happening to anyone else?
>>48228794I'm player C:--restart from scratch after every one or two updates
>>48229136whythese are just 99% fix patches
Did test on offerings with seeds to confirm wiki. 1k seeds, 55 faith. All given at once was still at distant. Split into stacks of 40 got me to sense of peace which was enough for pet but not quite enough for weapon.
>>48229132It also happens to me. I think there is still some RNG and maybe gathering or farming or scavenger affects it.
Nice, egg hatched.
>>48229171My hypothesis is auto farming gives low level seeds quality levels they shouldn’t have
>>48229259there's a reason all the tourists call north tyris a savage shithole
>>48229259if you kill them they just respawn in a few daysif you steal from them they have to go out of their way to make a post on the quest board about how their vomit was stolen by their pet cat if they want to get it back
Seasonings that can be easily farmed at home seem to be: honey, sugar, bonito flakes, and cheese. Anything I'm missing?
Is there a place I can buy canes?
>>48229407you can craft canes
>>48229132for me it stopped going up at 100 seed level, I can't get quality past 10
>>48229407Canes can rarely appear for sale, but you're much better off just crafting them. The part most new people get stuck on really is the getting 'fragments' part - you have to go east to the beach to get them. You'll have to go there anyway to get Big Leaves for making Tight Ropes anyway.
I think I lost a tax slip and now it constantly says I'm 1 payment behind, is there a way to force pay taxes so it leaves me alone, or am I boned for the run?
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/User:Krious/FlowerPower
I just got my first beehivesomeone explain to me how does this workswhat do I put in?what is the flower thing?help
>>48229475fish for so long they all just rothell yeah
Switching from the first god and getting 30k turns debuff is so annoying.
How do I make a Ehekatl worshipper Fairy Thief work?
i havent showered for two days since playing
>>48229519same
>>48229512acquire fish slayerpick up some mind magic spells for things your melee damage can't overcome and to get sleep/blind/dim procs (mind damage is absurd and your fairy cha will be good for it)keep invis potions stocked. I don't actually know if invisibility is a spell but if it is, get ithave tank pets
>go to port kapul>pick up 20 palulu fruits>brew winemoneysssss
>>48229518what does this mean
>When you went to Mysilia without any Scrolls of Return and decide to stay there until one popped up at the magic shop 2 months later
>>48229484You leave beehives sitting around, and the higher level the flowers on the map are the better the honey is. The more beehives you have the more flowers you need for them to actually produce anything.
>>48229582what's the ideal number of flowers for each beehive?are 3 fine to one?
>>48229584We just don't know. Supposedly the suggested amount is 10 flowers per beehive.
>>4822958410 to 1
What's easiest drug to manufacture fast for mani?
What are your recommendations for best mounts? Black cat has great speed, all human equipment slots, and blesses items, but poor life. Carbuncle has less equipment slots but is a bit faster and has more health. Yowyn horse has better speed than either, and tons of life, but bad equipment slots. Any other standouts?
I need mods that add enemy varietyI need a mod that adds mutators to nefias and changes things about their generation. flooded nefias. cursed nefias. burning nefias. storming nefias. volcanic nefias. shifting nefias. alcoholic nefias. hallucinogenic nefias. noxious nefias. null-magic and supermagic nefias. bodyswap nefias where your PC becomes an ally and you play as one of your allies. nefias where if you take too long on a floor a squad of 「blade omega」come to skullfuck you. nefias with increased trap spawns. nefias that have increased spawn rates for certain equipment types (eg sword nefias, armor nefias, magic nefias, food nefias). nefias dedicated to gods that have increased spawns for that god's offerings, all the monsters spawned have that god's favor, and all the shrines are of that god and there's an increased chance for statues to spawn.
>>48229668Copy all the special nefias from Omake Overhaul, those were great
>>48229678I never actually played OO, I probably should have. I was an E+ only autist
>>48229519[Stinky]
>>48229668there should be a challenge nefia quest
>took me 50 hours to notice I could craft a mirror to enable more character customization
>>48229709You could just use the ones in towns already, like the mirror in the King's bedroom in Palmia
>>48229612can't you just grind red herbs and that's a drug?
is there a way to get the magic academy recommendation without paying money?
>>48229475Gonna use it for favor farming.
>>48229715Yes but that would take ages to get enough for pet and items. You would need like 1.5k.
>sifting through CME pack>countless duplicates, sometimes 3-5 of the same part>vast majority are just a shirt that covers 5-6 other slots and is pre-colored so if you want to change it it's gonna look stupid>CME portraits pack>just img2img AI re-gens of the facesnone of these PCC parts were created by the uploader, were they
>>48229735(me)Worked, got favor from 0 to weapon within like 10 minutes. Gonna do that for every god
Is this one of those "slow life" video games people are talking about?
>>48229786>Is this one of those "slow life" video games people are talking about?It's completely up to you whether you go "slow life" and farming shit, or become a murderhobo thieving terrorist
>>48229786more like a cultivation game, except the gains are much smaller
>>48229752It wouldn't necessarily take ages, but you'd need a lot of gold bars to pump your soil to have enough capacity and just let it auto-harvest. Herb seeds aren't that hard to get if you check the right biomes.
>you can infinitely dig fields for easy xp
>>48229815Oh, and also infinite chunks of soil
>>48229815>>48229817that's INFINITE MONEY because you can turn that soil into FLOORS...it is now time to make an Elin Is a Perfectly Balanced Game With No Exploits (I BROKE THE ECONOMY!!!!) youtube video
>>48229815>>48229817>>48229825Still costs stamina, so its not even the most efficient use of your bar per oren gained
>>48229827>b-but le staminerino per oreeen!!Diggy diggy hole *mogged by my lv 9001 digging skill and my INCREDIBLE dirt castle*
>>48229825>gathering 20.000.000 oren with only dirt challenge
>>48229838[13 minutes of yapping and overacting about GAINZ only to say I ended up setting up a macro and eating the death penalty for 12 ingame years because I didn't actually want to do it, only interrupted for a 2-minute montage of getting smoked by a minotaur someone sent me in a box]
>>48229846>12 ingame yearsRIP stats
One big downside with Jure is that she makes all your cooking quests harder, because they scale to your cooking skill. She gives you a lot of cooking skill, but not the recipes that are unlocked at higher skill levels.
>take quest in palmia>deliver item to mysilia>only gives influence in mysilia
>>48229786you can go slowyou can go fastyou can go sonic boomits your choice
>>48229448You can buy the 1 oren tax slip from the workshop near Noyel.If you know the map where you dropped the slip, you can try CTRL + F for it.
how do I get junk stone?I didn't knew how to use them and just threw them awayis it only from enemy drop?
>>48229996iirc you can dig up granite in tower dungeons, then hammer it into granite pebbles, then hammer those into junk stones
>>48229996random drop from breaking cave walls, random drop from stones on the ground, and you can break down any other stone into it
>>48229684>I never actually played OO, I probably should have. I was an E+ only autistIt had vanilla Elona's ungodly platinum grind so the first few hours sucked, but some of its other features are really cool, like those dungeons. There are zealot nefia where NPCs who believe in the same god team up and try to kill anyone who believes in other gods. Sometimes you run into other adventurers in dungeons in OO, and needless to say they could make fanatic dungeons scary. Big daddies were scary too because they wouldn't start neutral if they had a different god. There were thieves guild nefia full of traps, chests, gold and ore, and human enemies. Illusion nefia would spawn enemy versions of your pets and the boss was a clone of yourself wielding a godly weapon of the same type as your best weapon skill. There are nefia where you can't cast spells or where you can't use melee attacks, and more. It added to the game a ton. I'd love to see that kind of thing in Elin.
What are THOSE
>>48230031hugging implements
How can I recruit NPCs if I satisfy the Charisma requirement?
>>48230047Get them to like you enough, beat them up if they're unique or an adventurer.
Someone ask Noa to enable dual polearms to dual reach attack.
>>48229996I have no idea what you need them for, but you can make them out of nothing by putting up wooden walls and then breaking them back down. The wall turns back into a plank and most of the time you get a junk stone.
>>48230057only if he also makes it so polearm pets actually prioritize using them as reach weapons and don't hog melee slotsI wanted two true melee and a polearm and the polearm is constantly clogging up the cramped one-tile-wide nefia passages and 3x3 rooms
>>48230021There are a lot of modifiers to play around with, like various elements and status effects, and the different combat styles, but I think god-/guild-/locale-related effects would be nice, like they challenge you to beat Nefias with opposing effects or mobs. I always like those stupid A-Life mechanics, so something like dynamic monster nests based on which god is most powerful or the stability of nearby towns would be fun. It could be a good lead-in to making your own dungeons, like collecting influence to spend on allies and traps and stuff.
Does Elin have a summoner playstyle like elona (necromancy) or do i have to micromanage a pet team again?
>>48230088There are summoning spells, and feats that increase your summon cap
>>48230088Summoning is amazingly strong early on, I don't know how well it scales up though. There are feats that allow you to have more summons at once.
>>48230088>necromancyeh?
>>48230088You can have up to 8 pets and up to 14ish summons, all at the same time. Summons don't time out and there are now multiple summoning spells.
>>48230094Plus mechanic. You could make coffins that you used to summon undead.
>>48230095>>48230092>>48230089Alright thanks,i just hate elona combat and tended to use coffins or origami in elona plus to skip most of it
>>48230088If you don't wanna micromanage, you can worship Kumiromi for the raise dead scythe.Kizuami for the summoner/buffer route.
>>48230129What does each do? To decide what to pick
>>48230137Kumiromi is the god of harvest and give you a scythe artifact that grants a party-wide chance of reviving killed enemies as allied plant npcs that don't count as your summons.Kizuami's artifact prevents you from doing damage directly but massively buff all your allies
>>48230149So the first requires dead things to be around first,guess the second is more useful
>>48229987thanks, it was hiding behind a sign. ctrl+f worked like a charm
>>48230149Cant you just use both?
>>48230203You can have both weapons, but the fancy effects are faction effects, so you need to be worshiping that god.
>>48230036asphyxiation implements
>spent 80 hours enjoying this game>only just learned tourist is a punishment class and all my prices are doubled or some shitAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>48230256Time to unleash your true power!
>>48230256With the Vacation Vibes feat, all Orens-related expenses, including taxes, are doubled for you. But on the other hand, all shops will have 5 Invest levels worth of extra stock in their shop inventory for a dumb (and/or) rich (and/or) obvious Tourist like you to spend Orens (that you may not have) on, so it's totally worth it!
How do you check the spells of a pet?
is anyone else who grabbed the most recent update getting constant massive errors? I did just try to uninstall the canisminor mods, but... I'm not sure it's that or the update
>>48230256snail touristtrust the plan, anon
Apparently I had 30 tactics but "learning" it in the fighters guild set me back to one?????
has anybody captured a gnome? do they steal from enemies and get items?
>>48229881The biggest issue with Jure is that she isn't currently sitting on my face
>>48230677i dont think thats how pickpocket works
>>48230403its your mod>>48230393you dont. you have to see them use it
>>48230564If you don't have a skill learned, its base stat is stuck at 1. Are you sure you're not confusing with bonus stat from item/god?
Considering stat feats add to your base stat, which increases the EXP cost of future stat gains, are they a net increase to stat cost?
>Walking around without clothes on will cause townspeople to scream.Who is it? Who is the pervert who runs around towns naked? Is it you, snail tourist anon >>48230477 you?
>>48230805probably as they increase min potential
You mean to say, I can't evademaxxx my way out of caster enemies?
>>48230829just kill them first faster
>>48230831I'm >>48229512I don't think this character will ever have the firepower to kill fast.
>>48230859Better start stacking resistances then.
>>48230816It was metechnically i'm not naked, i'm wearing panties
>>48228560>but they're a good stop gapYeah that's what they should be IMHO, just a "better than nothing" thing. Would be a nice addition for anyone who wants to play pacifist craftsman/shopkeeper too - get decent gear to sell and keep their bodyguards equipped with for whenever they have to venture outside to farm mats.
>>48230884Personally, I'd like a way to make some good weapons that can compete with higher end stuff. Swordcraft Story changed my life and gave me a great need to fight with weapons I make in all kinds of games.
whats the point of wagons when i can just make 4 sturdy boxes?
>>48230929Looks. Getting more out of a single upgrade wrench.
>>48230929Wagon's probably placeholder until we get vehicle/cart implemented.
fuck, I need to have riding being worked on so I can ride my bikebro when he gets added...
>>48230875Having panties in your hand isn't the same as wearing them
>>48229518Unplayable.
nyo...
>>48230677>vertically challenged grifter party with evasion fairy and a pack of teleporting gnomes robbing everyone naked and unarmed before killing themI...kinda want this...
>>48230056Whats a good way to get affection fast? Throw booze and sex them? Sometimes their favorites are just too much of a pain to get.
>>48230129That's what "It replants the harvested life" does? I thought it meant automatically replanting crops as you harvest them, which would double the productivity while halving the tedium of farming.
>>48230968GOD I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS CREATURE
>>48231169
>>48231313
i think i saved too many of them
>>48231374
lost my op summoner team because they got poisoned. Feels bad man. to lose such friends. How do you stop poison on pets? they dont even use bandage when they're about to die outside of combat
>>48232181immune to poison gear
Watching birds is not an euphemism I was previously familiar with so I ended up whoring myself to an old man. I guess yaoi doujins are more realistic than I thought.
>>48231378make a ranch out of them
>>48231313He is a male fairy
>>48232687yes and?
>>48232687Shes not
>>48232847DROPPED
>>48232884Kumiromi's fairy is male though
>>48232933not anymore
What does the Luck/Luck of the land home skill do?
>>48233257It makes the land luckier.
>>48230791really late response but no, i had been skilling tactics up since i made the character, it was over 30.
I can't seem to get the Ether disease resistant buff when meditating in the Olvina hotspring.
tfw no hot witch gf to brew me potions and stab me when i look at other female npcs
>>48233447Are you sure it was Tactics and not Strategy?
How do I view the detailed infos of my party member? Like what shows up when you press V for your own chara.
>>48233734I might be fucking retarded anon. Thank you
how do i change an ally portrait?
>>48233732>your pet gfs just stand still and stare at you whenever you sex someone
>>48233855Resident board. Toggle PCC.
>>48219735Can i get support spells like hero and healing spells in my dreams too?
Where can I find wood rubble for a quest? Descriptions says to look for it in the Meadow, but it doesn't seem to be anywhere. I've got bone rubble from somewhere, no clue when though.
Treasure maps are pure bullshit
Why are some slots in my inventory bags lighter in color and I can't put anything in there?
Done with gods.
>>48233993The tree stumps and trees them self never move but I do love image of the pc screaming into the endless snow as they search for a chest that could only have 2k oren in it.
>>48234062You filthy slut
>>48233993put it in the shared container. Poppy (the dog you rescue from puppy cave) is a treasure hunter, it means every day he has a chance to dig the treasure for you. You'll find it in the shared container afterwards. You'll get a message on screen when he digs it
>>48234062What race did you play as? Demigod?
>>48221470Not the other anon but where are the shops requiring so little investment? They usually want 1500 if not thousands.
>>48234120Juere farmer.
Are Staffs good for a hybrid build or should i go with longswords?
>You step on a mine :)FCK OFFFFFF
I cant wait for alchemy, man. I miss crafting a bunch of potions.
>harvesting mushrooms in the indoor farm>log starts filling out with death messages>go out, nothing in sight>search around, death messages keep piling up>by the time you find the culprit half your base is dead
>>48234148was it annoying changing gods every time or after a while you were strong enough that the punishment was negligible?
in build mode how do i change the recipe? like if i wanted a different glass material how do i do it?
Are maids locked to being tourists?
>>48234214Alchemy when bros....I just want to live my slow witch apothecary shop life.....
>>48234324For me is throwing the potions, i have no interest in selling them.I hope that with alchemy you will be able to craft sulphuric acid to throw.
>>48234256just dont stupid shit with ironball on
>>48221959>>48234125>whereMysilia. I forgot that investing is a thing and mine's at 92 so it's low because of that. I'm retard.
>>48234316yes
>>48234351>investing is a thingI forgot that the investing skill is a thing*
>>48234256Only the very first change was annoying because I was with horome for like 4.5 years so it was around 30k turns of punishment. For everything else it was only 2k turns so I would just walk home and it would disappear on the way.
I invested 3 points into a stat booster feat in the hopes it would speed up my growth, but because the feat gives you base stats instead of additional stats, it actually slowed my stat growth instead.
Can you join more than 1 guild?
>>48229475How many corpses do I need to sacrifice. I've turned in the max for 3.0? gain a decent amount now and it seems like the result I get from praying randomly changes. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing wrong if anything from reading the wiki on offerings. But I am at 25 faith and have handed in maybe 2000 corpses and some meat and still have no follower.
>>48234351Do you have any advice on which shops are good to invest in in the first place?
anyway to increase fish quality?
>>48221470d..do tourists have fucked up investments prices asking for a friend
>>48234453its double too
>>48234422yes. contribution points and the tasks you have do to join are not retroactive so you should grab them all ASAP>>48234431what's the yellow message you receive every time you offer? have you tried praying yet? you only receive rewards if you pray>>48234439I first went for general goods, because they have a high chance of rolling blankets to sell. On some rare occasions they offer up high level pokeballs. Overall it's a safe one to start off with since it seems they can sell anything.Then I went for Innkeepers/fishmongers for their food since I was still struggling with food production at the time. Afterwards I went all in on magic/books for the chance at enchant scrolls. The real endgame one it seems is the artifact dealer at the merchants guild. very high chance of listing multiple artifacts at the God tier
raised affinity of an A ranker to 75. why cant i recruit her to my home?
>>48234476beat her up
>>48234469fuck my life why did i pick this class and why is it too late to restart
>>48234452Can you feed them with ground bait like Elona?
>>48234473>what's the yellow message you receive every time you offer? have you tried praying yet? you only receive rewards if you praySomething about oneness with the world, I pray manually almost every day.A lot of the times I don't get a message at all when offering/praying.
>>48234491Anon, don't be afraid of starting all over again.
>>482344312k should be more than enough to get pet and weapon(if you had 30 faith) Are you giving them all at once? There's limit how much you can gain from single offering so giving 300 corpses and 10 times 30 corpses will not be the same.>>48234476Unique npcs and adventurers need to be beaten in fight,
>>48234507I give 42 at a time which gives me the bright light emote that supposedly is for maximum gains.
>>48234491you get thru the early part relatively quickly once you figured out what to do
>>48234512Are you sure you didn't get the pet already earlier or something? Which god do you believe in now?
Is a ghost a good pet? I can't see if she has any good spells
>>48234528I am on Element, if I got the pet I have no idea where they are.
>>48234500>>48234534Check your hearthstone or resident board maybe? You should have gotten an exile.
>>48234532I don't know but don't you want to find out?
Owo? How do you get its seeds? Sickle?
What are wooden figures for?
>>48234546yeah you can sickle trees for seeds
>>48234469EVEN MY TAXES?
>>48234546wtf is that disgusting UI
Looks like having too high a farming skill has a downside. At this point seeds always rank up when I harvest them, meaning I can't get more base seeds to get more chances at the type I want. Ex. I have only one seed of something, I want to get dex bonus on it but when I harvest it it gets learning instead.
>>48234539Nothing in either outpost. I am lost.
>>48229817>>48229825>it works
How do I tell my pet to use Gun Lance as a range weapon?
>>48234595It's a time passage activity, kind of like the training dummy, except instead of useful combat EXP you get useless digging EXP plus some pocket money.
>>48234633it's better than farming shrooms early game at least
how the fuck does delegated farming work
>>48234636Shrooms are way better because they can be turned into bait.
>>48234666shut up, you wont stop me from being a dirt farmer, shroomcuck!
>>48234565Everything that costs money is doubled (twice as expensive) for Tourists
>>48234704fuckFUCK
>>48234715All shops do get 5 Investment levels worth of extra stock on hand though. Yeah, those extra stock they're showing also have the Tourist 'doubled cost' masochist penalty applied too, so you can just window shop harder.
>turned in another 800+ corpses and meat>still no follower>faith meanwhile has increased to over 30 I don't know what to do anymore.
>>48234584>>48234758Do you have the Model Follower feat perchance?
how do I identify stuff with "higher level of identification"?
>>48234775Yeah I have it at rank 2 but I've been praying manually.
>>48234758Adding to >>48234775, you are manually praying to see if you get a god reward, right? If you have Model Follower, the auto-praying from that doesn't proc it.The only other thing is the messages that pop up once in a while when you Offer stuff. Considering that you said you've hit over 30 Faith, have any Offerings at any stage mentioned 'You feel a sense of peace' (Piety at above 45%), 'You feel as if your God(dess) is right beside you' (Piety above 75%), or 'You feel a sense of oneness with your God(dess)' (Piety maxed out)? You could be offering a ton of corpses, but if their item value value is absolutely shit, it won't raise Piety much at all even if the God(dess) replies.
>>48234781Blessed scroll of identityScroll of *identity*Blessed scroll of *identity*MagesAutomatically through high appraisal skill>>48234785Maybe that's bugging it? Prayers refresh every new day so maybe the automatic prayer uses up that prayer charge, even if the day hadn't ended, so you can't manually pray.because>A lot of the times I don't get a message at all when offering/praying.sounds very suspect.The faith requirements are at 15 and 30 respectively, and you've said you gained over 30 so that's out.
>>48234758>corpsesuse booze, and it still took me a lot of bonito/sugar wines to get max Piety
>>48234796>'You feel a sense of oneness with your God(dess)' (Piety maxed out)?My message is that I feel a sense of oneness with the world not my god? Is the game bugged ? I've got the mana ability and everything from Element.
WHRRRRRR.......
>>48234813AHHHHH MY TOEEEEE!
>>48234802Dunno, all of my prayer messages have been hippy shit like this for a long time.>>48234803I'll give that a shot but at this point I am over maybe 2500 corpses, (corpse) meats, and got 15 altars of element to my name.
>>48234802none of those options work, not even the mage NPC
>>48234830Did you ask them to identify an artifact and not just a normal item
>>48234803Soil corpses are fastest to get and work just fine.>>48234809I would try switching gods.
>>48234835ooohhh I seedidn't noticed it had that option, thanks
>>48234828That's just the Praying effect text. The ones referred to here >>48234796 is when you Offer something; when you hit a treshhold (e.g. 45%, 75%, etc.) it'll give you an additional message.Also you said you've offered a lot of corpses, but how many are you doing at a time? There's a max of 20 Piety points gained per Offering, so if you've been dumping enough corpses to get you 200 at a time, you've been 'wasting' 180 Piety. If you want to be absolutely safe, Offer enough that the God(dess) has an actual voiced response to your Offering instead of just 'it shines and disappears' and 'a four-leave clover falls from the altar'.
>>48234809Still incredibly odd. Hmm. Maybe you're not actually at the threshold of receiving a reward. If you're talking about >You are enveloped in a sensation of everything becoming one.That is not an indication of your piety level. You only see the messages indicating piety when you offer something at the altars. Try what the other anon said with the booze.Worse comes to worse, you can manually back up your save and swap gods and see if it gets unfucked.
>>48234848I've been offering 42~ corpses at a time or whatever the threshhold is for the emote about bright light consuming everything, or whatever it is above the four leaf clover. I haven't gotten emotes for offerings in a long time.
Forgot to mention but element doesn't take alcohol as an offering and throwing about 50 different spellbooks/ancient books did not get me any kind of emote. I'll try backing the save up and swapping later today.
Successfully completed a harvest quest, but lost karma for having some vegetables in the inventory when I was a few steps away from delivering them to the chest. Kinda bullshit. Are there any rewards for going over the quota?
>>48234860>>48234873To make what >>48234848 said even more explicitly clear, you should split up your offerings to stacks of 1. So if your stack of corpses is 500, you split it so that it's >1 corpse>499 corpseand you offer the singular (1) corpse. What >>48234848 was saying is that if you offer the stack of 500 instead of splitting it up it causes an excess of waste. So try that if you haven't before you swap, otherwise you'll face the same issue with another god if that is what you've been doing.
>>48234860According to the wiki, you need 450 Piety (15 Faith) for the God Pet, and 900 Piety (30 Faith) for the Artifact.If your Offering just disappears without a shining light, it was worth less than 0.5 Piety. If it only had a 'disappears with a shining light', it was worth 0.5 - 2.0 Piety. If you also had the 'four-leaf clover falls from the altar' text, then it was worth 2.0 - 3.0 Piety. If the God(dess) actually replies to your Offering, it was worth above 3.0 Piety.If you've been hitting only between the 'bright light' and 'four leaf clover' part consistently without a reply from Itzpalt, those offering of 42 corpses or so was probably worth somewhere between 1.5 - 2.5 or so. If all you've offered were 840 corpses with that sort of response, you probably only have about 150-250 Piety, so probably not even halfway to the God Pet yet. Unless I am incredibly bad at maths because it's nearly 5am here and I haven't slept at all
Very new to this but is there a way to gauge or see exactly how far I'm progressing against current enemies? I know there's taggings like Fair, Formidable and Overmatched but I'm not exactly sure what metrics are they using to define the tags. As an example, I've seen Lizardmans that were tagged as Fair for me but when I try to attack them, they can easily demolish my character.
>>48234897Maths bad, 300-400 Piety or so. You're probably close to getting a god pet in this case, but as mentioned, if you want to be safe, offer the minimum enough that the God(dess) always replies to your Offering - that way you know what you've offered is worth 3 Piety points.
i have level 91 flowers but my honeycombs are like at +8 but shouldnt they be at +10? do i just add more flowers? or is there some other shit i should be doing?
Is there no "preach" action? Supposing that was an E+ thing, it should be too in Elin.
>>48234897>>48234892>If the God(dess) actually replies to your Offering, it was worth above 3.0 Piety.I've been exclusively handing in 1-2 too many to get this emote.(I've offered close to around 3000 corpses and an untold pile of meat, books and naughty books to him at this point).I've also converted a ton of alters which apparently counts for piety as well?Eitherway I'll try some more later this afternoon thanks for replying anons but I suspect at this point something is just fucked.
WTF RICE DOESNT ROT?!?!?!
>>48234951If you're looking to convert NPCs to a specific religion, you need to give them dojins of the God or Goddess you want them to convert to. Otherwise yeah, there's no Preach action to use Faith as a substitute for Music, nor is there Mass Music/Preach (playing music/preaching with pets). All those are E+ things
How the fuck do I automatically farm
>>48234970Bread doesn't rot either. Get an oven and start baking that bread as emergency food supply; you can use herb (and probably bone) powder as a substitute for actual bread/cake/etc. flour as well
>>48234996every fucking time
>>48235008>Have the fucking policy on>seeds have been planted>area has been designated with the farm sign>active for 9 days>not a single fucking harvest, not even mushrooms
>>48235021does one of your followers have the gardening or farming trait/job/thing
>>48235026yes, is that somehow interfering? like, maybe taking the farm sign slot or something stupid like that?
>>48235021>although is less efficient than manual laborread anon readit takes longer for auto harvest than manual harvest
>>48235021it takes more than 9 days unless you water daily
Am I autistic for roleplaying as myself getting isekai'd?
>>48235037>Am I autisticyeah but that was established before you ever posted here
>>48235026>>48235031farming job does not matteryou can auto farm without the Farming job we have discussed this for days already
>>48235047Why the fuck are farmers so fucking useless
>>48235045It cannot be helped.
Fuck this shit, maybe I should dedicate myself to farming chunks of soil too
>>48235037No? do whatever the fuck you want as long your having a good time doing it. My second run started because I wanted to play an singer that wants to make an bar and inn sometime down the line.
>>48235049soil + 2 is ok if you dont have gold
>>48235037
>>48235049Farming and Gardening mainly give that Land Emergency Rations (+# Residents allowed) and Soil (+ Fertility). Delegated Farming will generally Sickle enough until there are enough seeds to replant, before the rest is actually harvested for the crop. Also, if you don't have a Shared Container at all in that Land, anything produced will be put into the Shipping Bin instead
>quest asking to escort someone from mysilia to palmiathose fucking people mando they think I have a plane
>>48235077That manga's fun
>>48235090escort quests are trash
so will we get south tyris or what?
Can you get generator recipe? I don't want to use these generators that require workers.
>>48235131no
What do binding at keystones do, are they just respawn points?
>>48235153yes and when you use return
>>48235125Based on the map, it seems more likely we get stuff to the east, like Mayroon.
>>48235125nyesthe whole continent you can see on the world minimapI believe
>>48235131120 watts for one person is not that bad unless you are running some kind of cyberpunk city
Easiest way to get Eheketl offerings? Do I just fish and offer everything?
>>48235199surely noa wouldnt drop this game right?
>>48235201don't those generators stop working when the character goes to sleep and stuff
>>48235063>>48235077Thank you for your support. Now I meed to find a wife... or three.
>he plays as a female fox/succubus>not as a male human with a fox/succubus wifeFor shame.
>>48235209>don't those generators stop working when the character goes to sleep and stuffi have no idea what game or mod you are playing
>>48235227the wiki says they stop providing power when the NPC leaves for any reason and I assume they still want to sleep
>>48235204Fish is Ehekatl's Favoured Item, so yeah, literally take one of her altars home (it only weighs 80kg), plop it next to some water, and just fish and offer
does anyway got the date and place of when each festival happen?the wiki has nothing
>>48235225Like crack through the black community.The consequences will never be the same.
what are the ways to level up faith?
>>48235235>when the NPC leaves for any reasondisplacing, partying, killing the npc makes it stop generating electricityi assume you havent actually tried it?
>>48235255
>>48235263Literally the first feat I got, still, is there nothing better?
>>48219735Am I supposed to be missing fairy sprite in custom on top of plus install when I am making fairy character or do I install mods over the plus custom version?I went to game folder and I can't find character sprite folder that I'm almost positive should be somewhere in there.
>>48235255Find scroll vendor, hope they have a scroll of faith, buy and read it
>>48235256I haven't, I just read it and assumed it was a shitty waste of resources because NPCs like to sleep and fuck around
>>48235266
>>48235204Just like every other god, fertilizer corpses are fastest and easiest.
>>48235306>train my in the fait- AH YOU TOUCHED MY BULGE!
>>48235208We're in for good times if noa makes Elin Shooter inside of Elin as another minigame.
tfw no fox wife irlReal life is suffering which is why I escape to Ylva
I WILL leave bloom on once it's fixed in the snow
>>48234035If you resized your bag you may have created some invalid slots. Like if you take a bag with 15 slots and divide it into two rows, there will be 16 slots appearing but you won't be able to use the 16th
>>48221470>NTA, but once you start getting lods of passive emone you can blow it all on shop investments because each investment will give you 1 influence.That's a very good tip, I will use that to get beehives from Mysilia
>>48221927>ToME4That one's bad
>>48221470>but once you start getting lods of passive emonei dont get on how you get to this pointwith my taxes and tourists i dont even have enough for the mysilia tax
>>48221927>>48235482There's a Tales of Maj'Eyal 2, 3 and 4?
>>48222569>you can't do that anymore. one blessed water is one blessed item, that's itLame!!
>>48223217The wants to give you a good night kiss but is embarrassed about it and thinks you might suspect she wants to, so she has to deny it
>>48227315Elona's system was really good, there was no reason to change it.
>>48227476Anyone is fine early game as long as they wear high PV armor
>>48235485Before 4 it was Tales of Middle Earth. I don't think 3 was ever released to the public but 2 was a pretty good Angband variant
>>48235507Thankfully, this game should be easier to mod, so eventually, we will get a lot of rework mods (I WANT MY FUCKING CUSTOM AI)
Is there any way to look scroll the camera away from my character?
Once I am done playing around with the game I will turn my mind to modding. Specifically I want an indepth slavery, training, and breeding system.... for uh... reasons.
I grabbed unity last night with the intent of putzing with a monster mod. but I have never made anything besides art, food, and bad jokes in my entire lifeand I'm gonna have to make sprites for these enemies I've got cooked up...
>>48235557Alternatively, you could upscale the monster girl spritesheet for Elona+ and then import those sprites into Elin.
Not only do they let you come in their houses and sleep at their beds for free, but you can also strip naked and leave all your valuables laying at ground so you can do the harvest missions. Is that what a high trust society feels like?
>>48235568I could but I want enemy varietyunless you mean just using those sprites which is against my code of honor because I didn't make them
NTR mod when?
>>48234062wow militant looks qt
>>48235525>Specifically I want an indepth slavery, training, and breeding systembased
>>48235588
>>48235602Horseshoe theory tells us that a cute enough boy is basically a girl. So it's okay
>>48235602ok I can fix that with a hormone potion
>>48235612Boys that basically are girls are just girls who think they're boys.
Has anyone tried letting a companion use the Mani shotgun yet? Are they able to effectively use it, or does their AI break since it requires short range?
>>48235342Damn, I had already forgotten about Elona Shooter
>>48235627Kiria always goes into melee range, so she'd probably be the best pick for it.
>>48235602fixed that as soon as I got him honestlyI talked all that mess about not using stuff I didn't make but these aren't my tail or ears... I may have to amend thatfox tails are different from wolf tails anyway
I HATE THESE FUCKING HOUNDS SO FUCKING MUCH FUUUUUUUU
>>48235650Your resists bro?
>>48235650just get dragonscale
>>48235659how the fuck do you get resists up in this game? Corpses no longer give it
>>48235664gear for itbless your mutation potions since blessing other stuff fucking sucks and is pointless right now
>>48235671>thrown away countless blessed mutationsAAAAAAAAA
>>48235671>gear for it>he wants you to bring every possible gear resist equipment set for every hound type
>>48235671on second (first, actually) thought (due to actually testing my bullshit) I just did this with 9 potions of mutation and it did not give me any resistance mutations and seemed laser focused on str, dex, PV, and speed mutationswhich is still absurdly powerful. 15 speed and 9pv/dex/str for free is hugealso it stopped giving me mutations after a while and I wasted two of them, so I wonder if there's a mutation cap
>>48235682>I wonder if there's a mutation capthere is
Does blessing your weapon do anything?
>>48235678if you got blessed mutation pots you should have definitely just pounded those suckerssee >>48235682
>>48235687i believe it plus 2 to hit and damage OR it was dv and pv
Who is better between Misaki and the fox maid?
>>48235681only fire and cold ones are in dungeons tho
>>48235688why is fire resistance negative when cold resistance is positive?
>>48235687>>48235693I just tested blessing my lucky dagger and got +1 damage
>>48235695misaki, kinu, and eureka are all just strictly superior versions of their god pets, honestly
>>48235699Because that mutation gives you cold resistance and fire vulnerability
how do i acquire slaves to sell?
>>48235699you tell me, man. fire is way more common than ice with the current enemy spread. I'd way rather have the fire resistance>>48235703both give you a vulnerability to the opposite though
anyone???>>48235251
Scroll of ally can give you a hermit crab
>>48235708>>48235708>the wiki has nothingjust tell us you are illiterate
>>48235695I think fox maid could be great with some genes(especially self heals) but not sure if AI would use actions and spells from these properly. But base version is worse.
for a while I thought the aquli teola generators were something reasonable like 400 tickets but they're 820...this is going to be a whole lot of nothing and I might actually get that auto-explore mod
>>48235772Aquli is easiest place to get tickets at least thanks to influence reroll.
>>48235695Misaki doesn't count as a god pet so you can have her along with two of those if you want.
>>48235780yeah it's just still going to be a whole lot of nothingpet training and platinum gains, I guess
>>48235781That's a good point.>>48235738You mean like Misaki's base stats or her abilities are better? Warmage is better than non-Jure paladins, probably. Are there any important implications to having cover vs taunt if I'm going to ride them?
I picked Wini as my mage pet because wiki said she got meteor. Haven't seen her cast it once in few days I used her. Guess I'll switch to Verna or look for different mage, any good recommendations beside adventurers and god pets?
why do some npcs seem to cast whatever books i give them repeatedly forever but others seem to never cast a single spell (despite being "mages").
>>48235830Yeah, I grabbed her too hoping to see her drop meteors, but she never did. Keeping her around anyway just in case she does it one day.
>>48235279I showed you peepee answer the question /jp/.
>>48235849Sorry I don't know
Is there a way to target specific build pieces to learn the recipes for them? I want the brick walls that Willow has.
how do you uncurse an item you cant remove? cant use decurse staff on an item
>>48235911you zap a target and it attempts to remove all the curses on their equipped items
>>48235862Alright.
>>48235911what are you trying to uncurse? I suppose it's a potion
>>48235932>>48235914it was a staff that is in my equipment slot. But first anon gave me the solution i think
>>48235946Oh, if it is an equipable item you just zap a uncurse rod on yourself or use a scroll
>>48234491Time to reroll that character, big guy.
>>48235849I can't even understand your question. It sounds like you're complaining about the "user" and "graphic" folders somehow not being present or something? Instead of trying to write it in English, write it in your native language and machine translate it, maybe then someone will be able to help you.
mewmewmewmew!
>>48235973he probably means the sprite .bmp chart or something (maybe he is referring to the pcc folder?)
>>48235973>Text can't "sound like", retard-kun. Concider if it's appropriate to use "figure of speech" while being pedantic before shitting yourself on anonymous imageboards.
>>48235695I prefer Misaki, I really dislike the fox maid wasting her time and mana casting hero one by one on every party member, gets worse the more party members you have. Misaki drops hero and gets cure minor wounds to heal herself and party members, it's a bit odd that she isn't a paladin like the fox maid considering her only spell is holy domain.I have no idea how cover works when riding/symbiosis if it works at all.
>Text can't "sound like"holy esl
>>48236001>Lmao you are so assblasted you couldn't even reply to my post properly.
Did I get super lucky or something? I usually gained +1 or +2 per season. I planted +11 at the start of this one, went to harvest now since it's few days away from winter and it jumped so much.
>>48235988>Text can't "sound like"
>>48236029>Imagine getting so sassy while being unable to comprehend literal, factual meanings of basic concepts.Imagine picking an internet fight over eloquency while being unable to articulate.
Does an armored training dummy train better than a regular one?
>>48236029>>48236001He's right though, you're reading text, not talking to each other. The correct term would've been "it reads like". Obviously no one gives a shit and you can use "sounds like" online too but we're on 4chan and autism is our only vocation (after Jure).That said, the original poster did have a fucking stroke for sure.>>48236082No, it doesn't change anything. The way skills level up is constant, it's not like you having 0 skill in Hammer landing a hit on a level 150 enemy skyrockets your Hammer ability by 10 levels.
>>48236026It increases by itself with automatic farming?
What am I supposed to make of this?
>>48236122>it reads likenobody fucking says that, and just so you know, I do hear the text
Can you copy/paste entire buildings to move them around? I made a mistake and a passageway is too narrow.
I came back from questing for a quick farming and she came to me saying thisshe's too cute bros
>>48233726I only got mine when I stripped naked before meditating
how does the tent work?
>>48236133>says thatYou actually can't understand the reason why you are being mocked lol.
>>48236063>>48236122Are you guys autistic? Or are you really this intellectually inferior to others that you do not understand that the term "it sounds like" refers to the context underlying whatever the user expressed?>The correct term would've been "it reads like". Autistic it is.
>>48236126Either by itself or due to farmer npcs' skill.
>>48236140yes, use the home edit board or something you pay 10 orens per tile moved
I went through a moongate and saw this. I'm a little scared.>>48236158You put the tent down and then you can enter it, which puts you in a separate little map.
>>48236158It's a portable instance. You place it, can enter it and enter a separate room that stays the same. You can place things inside or even make a small pond to fish in.
>>48236161NTA, but you're like a poolpisser laughing at the sole person not pissing in the pool.Absolutely ludicrous.
>>48236153>strip naked>fox ears/tail come offUGH
>>48236161
>>48236167ty
>>48236168>>48236171i just placed my ehekatl altar and when I pick up the tent it weighs 73.9 s, what is the formula?
>>48236187The material the tent is made of applies its weight modifier to all the contents when you pick up the tent.
I don't understand how does eating food raise stats, is the act of eating providing EXP to a certain stat listed on the food itself which over time turns it into a +1 stat?
>>48236198It's the same as skills except the fractional part is not shown
>>48236172>>48236176>poolpisserDo you understand the Dunning-Krugger effect of cognitive bias?
>>48236198Depends where the igredient is coming fromOf the meat is from a boss monster it give more statsIf the egg is from a magic monster it gives more magic exp, and so on
Someone please link Noa to this:https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.collections.generic.dictionary-2Dude is still using arrays for everything. "Evalue(79)", "HasElement(1209, 1)"... He could switch to Dictionary<string, int> and use keys with obvious meanings instead of arbitrary numbers that he has to keep track of (and that modders have to decipher).
>>48236212
So how does honey generation work with flowers? Do the flowers get +s if you're good at farming, and does that translate into better or more honey? Or does it just not matter, and all you need is 10 flowers that aren't withered per beehive, and you can defertilize them to freeze them when they fully grow and don't wither?
Anyone know how to get melilith? spawned ticket but didnt work. Need to do quest but am not a backer
>>48236228you need to be a backer
what is the best way to get lots of fertilizer?
>>48236225>
>>48236264Flower trick.
>he got so mindbroken he is now using my own fucking gif i posted to annoy himlmao, attention seekers, ladies and gentlemen
>>48236274NTA, but you sound very butthurt.
>>48236280I think you meant to say "you read very butthurt"
>>48236274>
>>48236167I'm too retarded. What do I do after I go into edit cells mode and have selected a grid?
>>48236281You're giga mad you got called out on your shit back then lmao.
>>48219735im a first time playershould I play elona+ or elin?was gifted elin but since I saw in reviews that elona has more fetish stuff and less sanitized, I set up elona myself with 2.06 versionwhich one is better for a new comer and what was removed in elin?
>>48236292Nothing is sanitized, I don't know what they could be talking abouta popular overhaul mod for elona called elona+ adds pissing mechanics and it's a running joke that it's the mod developer's fetish, you were probably reading a joke review
>>48236292it's not that elin was sanitized from elona, it's that elona+ was a much hornier mod of elonathings that were in base elona that are currently missing are like. marriage (which isn't horny) and alien chestripper pregnancy, but aliens are in, so it's only a matter of timeif you're looking for a goonsesh game even elona+ isn't going to be it because none of them are fuckin h games and I don't know where people get the idea that they are
>>48236307>if you're looking for a goonsesh gameeh Elin is alright for it since it has a lot of lolis
>>48236307Everything can be a goonsesh game if you are brave enough
>>48236307what did elona+ add?what im currently trying to figure out how to play is elona+ as this is the folder name "elonaplus2.06fix"
>>48236324true, all you need is the willpower and imagination and everything else is just caking on the top
>>48236328masturbating to this post right now
>>48236325wasn't the latest stable version 2.24?
>>48236307Oh yeah? Then explain to me why Elona is on F95. Check. And. Mate.
>>48236337asked the friend who gifted me elin to send me elona+ toothats what I got
Is there a way to cut down/reduce the amount of fame I gain or just straight up lose it somehow?I'm try to stay low fame for a slice of life experience.
>>48236356You can sell it to informer.
>>48236352E+ isn't being sold, you can just download it for free off the wiki.https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki>>48236356Didn't the popup when you first got fame mentioned that you can sell it to town informants? You should be able to confirm it in your Adventure Log.
>>48236320I guess in the mental illness bingo for Elin players the free space is pedophilia
>>48236352github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXDon't forget to follow the installation instructions as you are installing the latest version over another linked in FAQ. There also (optional) mods.
I'm ready.
>>48236395sauce me on the megane-chan
>>48236401>Not cute fairybruh
is there a wood stockpile container or anything like that so I don't just have a box here instead of a pile of logs
What's the best support that can buff and heal, Farris?
Went on wiki to plan which food to make for each pet. I hate whoever decided to write this without including actual stats.
>>48236425fixed
does favor continue to go up once you have the artifact, or am I just throwing all these corpses (cooking XP) into the void by continuing to give them to yevanthey keep clogging up my inventory while grinding aquli killing quests
>>48236567>48cm>4kgIs that 48cm all his dick? Goddamn
hehehe
How do I stop two-hander pets from taking another weapon from shared containers? I don't want to ban them from shared containers altogether.
>>48236650Don't leave weapons in shared containers
>>48226363You can still throw it to the delivery bin to have it go to your base.
>>48236292Probably Elin, especially if you don't have traditional roguelike experience
>>48236713Moongate?
>>48236716Evolved Hot Guy
>>48236691Does a new holy well spawn in Noyel? Can we finally live the dream of duplicating the holy well?
>>48236567>[Memories of Summer]
>>48236567PALMIA
>>48236142She's adorable.>*oink*
>>48236721Can't wait till I run into one myself
>>48236624I love the random titles
Any DPS meter mods?
>>48236758>damage per second>turn based game
>>48236769average damage per turn is what anon meant
>>48236758Check the steam workshop but I really doubt it. Can't imagine why anyone would want that
>>48236624I'm him
Remember to drink *Blessed* Restore Body and Restore Mind potions to semi-permanently boost stats for you and your pets.
>>48236817The blessing seems pretty short lasting in Elin
Other than mining a ruin dungeon, has anyone found a consistent way to farm stones?
>>48236791Companion/pet contribution probably, I could see it being useful
>>48236372>>48236379I completely forgot, thanks!
there needs to be a god flavor text when using pillows
>>48236945But there is.
I'm new and I wanted to be a little king of cooking and making meals to sell for billions of gold, is that really a viable way to play?I was looking through the wiki and cooking does look fun but with the rotting mechanic I don't know how long food lasts realistically while playing.
>>48236963there's fridges, and food can last a long time even in the passive icebox
>>48236963Unlike, say, Dwarf Fortress, it seems in Elin you'll make more just selling the raw ingredients than cooking with them. You can get at least a bit of a value boost turning them to booze, though.
>>48236985Okay awesome I see it under the containers tab so it does look like a nice way to get rid of the decay mechanic.>>48236994That does kind of suck but I'll probably stick with cooking food just for the immersion if nothing else. Probably wont be for a little while since getting to the point of reliably having ingredients to craft with will take time. But thanks for the help anons!
palulu wood is fucking ugly
Thank Jure-sama for the Steam Workshop integration for Elin
>21 more size upgrades for Meadow to reach the edge of the mapis this even worth itthe edge won't look nice or anythingI think I'll do 6 more since the further visible tile is 15 away and then finally decide on a layout...
>>48237216soul vs soulless
Is it just me or can pets use polishing powder?
>>48237216they look nicer sure but anyone that isn't giving the pets they like customized PCCs is a fake elona fan
>>48237235That does make me wonder. Will someone eventually end up making a PCC replacement mod that reverts all the NPCs to look more 'Elona-like' instead?
Face it.You're never gonna make a figurine museum.Sell them.
Why isn't she in the game... Its only the male version...
>>48237262I only keep named bosses and npcs
>trashbin one (1) garbage>0 ecopo>trashbin two (2) garbages>1 ecopo>trashbin ten (10) garbages>1 ecopo
>>48237268Give em a sex change
>increase accuracy of melee attacks by 25%lel
we did it bros
>>48237310wow thats nice, maybe it will be possible to hit shit reliably in high level nefia now
>>48237310>DV builds
How do I have sex?
>>48237310My 4 hands chaos shape grows stronger.
>>48237342Get the NPC drunk
366 our of 860 furniture ticketsnearly halfway there...
>>48237359the fuck are you ticketing for
>>48237342in game or irlidk either way
elin is becoming baby mode
>>48237356>>48237374Buying prostitutes is also an option. Wouldn't recommend it irl, though.
>>48237370generatortoday I was reminded once again that port CRAPul doesn't have an informant to sell all my fame to
>>48237389>860just wait for the map reroll and maybe you could get it for like 700 tickets
>>48237356>>48237374I meant in real life.
>>48237389Theres a free one at the Truce Grounds bro...
>>48237399I already have that one. I need a second one to cover for it while using the gene machine because it literally will not stop short circuiting>>48237394maybe I'll go that high and just check periodically
This shit is pretty useless, isn't it?
>>48237431yeah wood has no particularly good properties
>>48237431Get you some weight reduction if you're carrying around an iron mic or something
>>48237456Wooden gong is better
>>48237216I like all these better except the cat, original cat is perfection
>>48237431I used one of these on a lantern i was carrying around to save like .5s of weight
>>48237310NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>48237389Just wish for it bro
>>48237519no such thing as ehekatl statues
>>48237339I'm running a fairy executioner right now...
This shop ration nerf is pain, I roll with 7 pets and burn through travel rations extremely quick
>>48237519i wish for jure to sit on my face
>>48237548>he uses fast travelwhat?you dont want your numbers to go up?
>>48237560Fast travel isn't the issue, feeding 7 pets is rough and travel rations are dirt cheap
>>48237565you dont even need to feed your petsif you really are that autistic about pet hunger weed stew exists
>>48237568>you dont even need to feed your petsThey don't starve to death?
>>48237580>have 7 pets>probably have tons of hours already>doesnt realize pets dont die of starvationwhat
>>48237580they don'thowever I'm so overloaded on corpses I do it anywayhow can I get them to eat cooked meals out of the shared storage, they only seem to want to eat raw ingredients even if I have a bunch of meat on bone stocked up
>>48237583>they only seem to want to eat raw ingredients even if I have a bunch of meat on bone stocked upthen separate your raw ingredient storage
>>48237580No, but you should feed them good stuff anyway. Mages are super easy to feed with shrooms and salt being infinite.
>>48237582Yeah, 42 hours and I never realized pets couldn't starve. That's nice to know I guess.
>>48237589>saltuse honey
>max quality of crops is 8i have been bamboozled
*putit*
anyone knows what touch of fear is? also is there a gene for cure wounds?
>>48237667there's a gene for everything, they're pretty randomtouch of fear is a touch attack that causes feargood if you're a ranged character and/or have ranged pets, since fear just makes enemies run awaybad if you're melee or have mostly melee pets
>>48237669do you know how to check for the current pet combat AI for genes? i tried the scope but it doesnt list it
How do you get either Fox Maid or Misaki?
>>48237692Worship fox mommy Horome and get 15 faith with maxed out favor for fox maid(manually pray when maxed out)Misaki is more involved, get her to 75 affection, beat her in a duel, then have more charisma than her highest stat(~72)
>>48237704Wish this shit was on the wiki. That or I can't find it.
>>48237715you can't find it even though it's in pretty logical places
I haven't masturbated since I played Elin
>>48237431HOW DO U HAVE THEIR PFP'S WITH THEIR HEALTHBARS?
>>48237751widgets
>>48219735I feel like that my companions are doing literally everything and the only thing i do is watch them play. Is this the normal Elin experience? I am a wizard, does it get harder later on higher lv dungeons to the point i actually need to fight with my companions too?
>>48237767TY. HOW DID U GET PORTRAITS FOR FOX MAID?
>>48237785Turn on PCC for her on the residents board then choose one, the other anon is using an AI slop portrait.
>>48237769Yeah I specifically chose not to get a DPS killer pet cause of that. Pets, particularly ranged pets can kill stuff before you, which trains their skills/attributes, which makes them faster at killing stuff before you, causing them to snowball ahead of you potentially.I think Elona+ was probably worse for that cause stats were turbocharged in that
>>48237788damn. i dont like ai slop but i reallly like that portrait with the health bar for UI.
>>48237799Eh you get used to it. The ones in the workshop are soulless looking obvious slop but theres some that sort of look like that game's art style that are tolerable.
INEEDthe things that let you turn an item into a miracle/godly version of itselfI think those were from E+ though
>Oh hey a scroll of ally. I bet I'll get some useless bullshit to immediately kick out of my house.>Your reinforcement is on the way!...
Fiama went on a rampage killing all of my people and my pet but not me what the fuck is going on
>>48237907She's gone yandere
>>48237907Lack of sex
>>48237948i seduced her the night prior though
If I'm grinding dirt, are there downsides to pushing into the negatives for stamina as far as I can (besides taking damage)?
>paladin and even healer AI are determined to heal as little as possible>mage AI is constantly aggressively moving into melee to bump instead of spamming arrow spellswhy is it like this
>>48236401>The LoverSame alias as me, nice.
>>48237802u don't happen to know where to find that exact fox maid art do u?
Do you guys use the bolt spells? They are AOE but the damage seems too low for the mana cost.
>>48237948Then its the opposite; you sexed her so good she decided to have you only for herself.
>>48238200I've mainly been using the arrow spells but bolts are nice if I run out and I think they'd probably be better if I levelled them up as much as the arrows but I'm not sure.
>>48238200they are terribly undertuned and the area is not conducive to how most fights in elin shake out
>>48238200arrow and ball spells mostly, magic arrow and magic ball suit every purpose.
>>48238200They're pretty shit, it's usually better to focus damage on one enemy and reduce the number of foes than spread with weak AOE damage. And if you want a big AOE there are ball spells.plus, spell damage mainly depends on how many times you've used the spell. How often do you encounter 2 enemies lined up perfectly to hit with a bolt? Meanwhile your arrows are always useful so they get big damage.
>>48238200The only one that seems worthwhile is the death bolt for healing.
>>48237431really loved your UI, so I copied it. i was also the guy asking in all caps about portrait arts with party health bars.
>>48238122>>>/v/694375072>>>/v/694374723
>>48238244There are plenty of times where you can lure all the enemies in line by going through a corridor or a door. Also the bolt hits everything in a straight line meaning you can hit enemies outside your view range while the arrow they need to be in range.But yeah the damage is shit and is not worth it even in those situations lol.
This game give me a hatred for littering. Some nigger tourists will litter around my base even after i set up a garbage sign, the two garbage boxes and the strict no littering policy.
Can you convert god pets?
>>48238608https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Ally#Make_them_believe_in_a_god>However, some pets with fixed faith, such as divine messengers, cannot be converted.
Finally found and killed a Yith, a formidable elite one. No boss yet.I feel like I've been using a bunch of busted stuff but others are definitely breaking the game even harder than me. Storm Sage Ice/Lightning has alot of synergy, then Freeze/Slow is also pretty disgusting for locking enemies down and forcing them to stew in a prolonged debuff cocktail, and mommy Horome keeps me topped up for any heals/debuff refeshes. Debuffs overall seem a ton stronger than buffs
>>48237216I like them except for the fox maid's breastplate being removed. I could never use something like that though because I refuse to use pets without making them a PCC. Graphics are a bit busier than Elona so it really helps to see which direction my 5 pets are facing/moving/attacking.
good way to learn new floor blueprints? does it help if i increase sculping?
>>48238858(me)Wait shit I busted my load too early, I was looking for a Spiral King not a Yith. Cthulu ass endgame monsters
>>48237907I've had that happen with Ashland before, and it's because of how Elin handles aggression with neutrals.Essentially, Fiama got drunk and groped someone while drunk, and that someone got mad and started attacking her. In Elin, when you attack someone neutral (not counting Talkable NPCs), other neutral characters nearby can join in and attack the aggressor. You'll know what I mean if you've ever gone on the usual Beggar killing spree at the start and wondered while Farmers and such all started fighting you, too.In this case, because someone got angry at Fiama for the drunk grope, Fiama is counted as the 'aggressor' for this purpose and the 'other neutrals also aggro' mechanic kicked in as well and made everyone try to fight her.Even as she kills off Loytel, Poppy and your pet with her own hands, she'll still give you the "I told you to look after your pets, why did they come back to me hurt?" angry dialogue and dislikes you a bit as usual
got a rare potion of blood of fallen angel. heard that if i mix it with an armour piece it becomes immune to acid dmg. But how do i mix it?
>>48239039middle click -> blend
Does anyone know if those twin beds actually let two people sleep on it?
>>48239006god i love this game
>>48239006i find it funny she treat loytel like a pet, including other humanoid npc too but still
>>48239072it lets 8 people on it actually, says in the tooltip
>>48237830Are you gonna leave him hanging there? Give the little guy a high five!
Where do you get the Soil policy book?
>>48239255Buy it from the Scholar type shopkeeper NPCs that sell Policy Books for Gold Bars, if they happened to sell it
>>48238869Dig up enough of the floor you want to learn
>>48238200yes sound bolt because theres no sound arrow
>>48239318Oh, so their inventories change like other merchants'? I assumed they were fixed like Still Trainers, so I went from town to town to find a Scholar selling Soil.
Given the 'issue' of arrow spells generally being the only useful offensive magic you'd go for if your domain has one, I feel like they should look at the whole spell leveling system a little more.As it is, hardly anyone uses Bolt magic unless they make it a point to do so, or if the domain doesn't have an Arrow spell. Ball magic feels like it's more useful to level Magic Capacity than to use it offensively, and Touch magic requires you to be next to the target, which is not what most pure magic users will want to be doing. On top of all this, Arrow magic actually feels cheaper to use in terms of MP cost than Canes, and while Canes can miss, magic spells never miss, so a mage would be better off Throwing stuff or picking up something like an Assault Rifle as a backup ranged weapon.On top of all of this, the individual spell level mechanic still exists. If you use a spread of magic, you'll be pretty subpar compared to someone who only uses something like Magic Arrow only. The amount of spell points you get per read of a book was dropped a fair bit compared to Elona, but once you get magic shopkeepers invested and Memorisation sufficiently leveled, magic stocks are no longer a concern and it becomes more of a MP concern (which can be somewhat mitigated by Maconomy Stance).The only thing your class having the Domain of that spell does is make it more likely for their spellbooks to show up in shops and that they deal 1d more damage or healing. But this isn't going to stop someone who doesn't have a domain in Magic from using only Magic Arrow still, for example.So what to do? I feel like the different Types of magic should instead be a Skill, for starters. So 'Touch', 'Arrow', 'Bolt', 'Ball', 'Heal', 'Buff', 'Debuff', 'Miasma', 'Intonation', 'Summoning' (includes Bits and Summon x) and 'Utility' (teleport and a few other spells that don't fit in the above criterias). These would take over the Spell Power component of the spells, increasing damage dealt by those spells in general (raises the #d component of the dice). Meanwhile, Casting would govern the Spell Success Rate. Lastly, Spell Level itself would raise d# component of damage/healing, turn duration for buffs/debuffs or the number of allies summoned for Summon spells.In this way, while some will still stick to only Magic Arrow to overpower everything (as nothing is totally immune to Magic attribute), at least it gives people an incentive to use magic of different elements. I mean, it's not like there is a 'Claymore skill level' and 'Katana skill level' for Longswords, though they you'd fight with them would be totally different. Why shouldn't spells work in a similar way, e.g. arrow spells would have the same sort of incantation of 'Type: Arrow - Target: Single (Ground)', with only 'Element' being variable.
>>48239646Yeah, their inventory restocks like any other merchant and you can even use Influence to force a restock I think. For them it's all about having enough Gold Bars to buy the actual thing(s).
>>48239650MP is legitimately not an issue once you're not longer effectively level 1. Canes are a nice stopgap for not wanting to waste spell stocks on trash, but also spell stocks become meaningless higher up too so whatever.Bolt really does need something to set it apart, and touch needs to do way more damage or guarantee a status effect.
i've yet to see any lockpick sellers. derby perhaps?
>>48239726derphy usually have them, yes
