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>>48255430

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhh
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
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>>48271800
SOMEHOW BONE
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>>48271776
Someone asked me how I have party member portraits in the last thread, no it's not a mod, all in game, mess around with the widgets
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Man, is finding pebbles on the floor the only way I can find some ore? Trying to find basalt is so hard
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>>48271868
Mountains have big rock blocks and cave dungeons have stalagmites but you might not be able to break em
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Will the black cat be able to lick things if you're using it as a mount?
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how the hell are you guys getting the god's pet?
I checked the wiki and it say I need high piety(?) for it
I'm trying to get jure's one but
>every item I offer gives only 1 or 2 points
>can't carry the altar because it's too heavy
>the only fixed altar is in noyel, literally the other side of the map
>can't bring tons of food because everything will root by the time I arrive

how do I grind peity with her? wiki says I have some kind of daily limit of 15 points or so, so I can't even throw all my junk into her altar at once
is this supposed to take forever?
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>>48271916
>can't bring tons of food because everything will root by the time I arrive
Why didn't you do the tutorial that gives you a free cooler?
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>>48271924
anon, it's 11 days from meadow to noyel
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>>48271940
find ehekatl altar in the wild and bring it back to your base, and convert it to jure
it weight only 80
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>>48271916
Just look for a Ehekatl (I think) shrine out in the wild. Hers are special in that they weigh like 80s so you can easily carry it back to the meadow, and convert it to whoever you worship.
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>>48271916
15 faith required for god pet, 30 for weapon/artefact, just get the auto pray feat and for get about donating, just played until my faith auto rose to 15 and by then I already had enough affinity to get the pet when I manually prayed
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>>48271916
Drag an altar back to your base and convert it.
Altars of Ehekatl (I think) are made of mica and only 80s, if you have a paper tent, that's only 12s which everyone can carry.
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>>48271916
>can't bring tons of food because everything will root by the time I arrive
Food in your allies' bags do not rot. Accumulate and shove it all into them that they can't eat all of it by the time you reach point B from point A.
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>>48271940
Also why are you going to Noyel when the truce ground is closer and NOT through snow?
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really hope this elin doesn't become one of those abandoned games and is heavily reliant on community mods
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>>48271892
ya
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>>48272039
How far did Elona get in development before it got abandoned? Also is there a roadmap for Elin?
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>>48272039
Noa's been pumping out an update a day at this point, I hope he doesn't burn out
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>>48271961
How do I convert altars
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>>48272273
Put a sufficiently strong offering to your god on it, the higher value the higher chance of success
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>>48271916
I just ground up hundreds of saved up bones and baked them into basic skill 1 bread (1 powder = 1 bread), split the stack into 5-6 piece stacks and offered them individually.
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>>48272294
Bread recipe?
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>>48271916
>>48272294
>wiki says I have some kind of daily limit of 15 points or so, so I can't even throw all my junk into her altar at once

It's not a daily limit but a single offering limit, which is why I mentioned splitting up the stacks.
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>>48271916
Go convert the Palmia altar.
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>>48272302
It's the default you start with, bake in the oven.
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Is it a good idea to use Black Angel as a ride after leveling her STR?
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it feels like a lot of the god artifacts are pretty darn sexy even after slutting it up with other deities and missing out on the faction bonuses. Opatos' Earth Hammer is especially nice to actually keep a pet alive, and the resulting Earthquakes don't seem to hit the rest of the party (unless I've been lucky...). Kumiromi's scythe is nice slow life utility to have in your backpack too. Muramasa and Element Staff work fine for general wizardry, regardless of who you follow between the two


the only price is dignity and knowing your soul will find no respite in the void when the reaper comes...
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>>48272325
Ty, need to get an oven
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>>48272131
there's no roadmap, but there are promised features on the kickstarter page
we will (assuming all goes well) be getting
>our own dungeon + management
>our own guild
and on the character creation, alchemy is yet not implemented
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>>48272131
Elona was 2006 to 2010 when Noa started his 1st depression arc. But he jumped right back in with Elin around 2012 anyway when we got some teaser that look like a 3d Rune Factory clone.
Chances are Elona would have stopped development anyway. HSP isn't very extensible for what Noa was trying to make.
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holy shit, why nobody told me theres a global log in the game
I was ignoring the newspaper thinking it was just some decoration but it's actually pretty neat
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>>48272492
>Jure(tentacle)

huh????????
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>>48272509
extra hawtness
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>>48272343
It's not that I'm turning my back on Kumiromi, it's just that Ehekatl needs me.
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>>48272492
This is still the best death I caught
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>meet gaki
oh poor girl probably got cursed by some pompous god for a petty reason
>she likes to insult you
>she randomly whips you and interrupts your crafting
>she never shuts the fuck up even if you tell her to shut up
maybe the god in question was not so in the wrong...
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>>48272509
one of the kickstarter goals was to make a quest about jure and kumiromi being assaulted by a tentacle monster
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>>48271807
wait, how does this part work?
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>>48272039
>>48272131
>>48272262
Elona made Noa $0.
Elin made Noda $450,000 and counting.
Small difference
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>>48272492
Wait, where do you see global log/newspapers?
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>>48272613
Now that I check the kickstarter, most of the goals are already implemented in some forms. We're just missing building blueprints, my guild dungeon master and the quests.
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>>48272645
lmao
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Does [Tarnished] affect what I produce? For example, would a beehive with [Tarnished] reduce the honeycomb's quality in any way?
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>>48272724
tarnished food has a chance to just not give any stat xp because it tastes disgusting
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I thought it was rubynus but it was just meat, sad. Also I wish we could give pets unique sprites without having to use a pcc
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Guess who's got two green thumbs and Farming 100?

My meals haven't actually improved in a long time since the plant cultivation potency bonus caps out at a fairly low level and quality gets capped by Cooking when actually making meals and Cooking doesn't level nearly as fast even if you cook everything you grow. As for money, even at this level it's far less lucrative than flake wine.
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>>48272724
I came to ask that exact thing. Just found a second queen bee and was wondering if my first beehive being severely tarnished is why its production seems slow
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Adellog hates them
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Are scythes good?
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>>48272824
Yeah, sort of in the same position. I found my first queen bee, but I only have Crafting level 6. Think I will just do other stuff for now, until it's around 15-ish.
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>>48272923
yes
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>>48272638
you read a newspaper
you can make one in the writing tool
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>>48271776
I'm restarting. I was struggling to get started at first so I picked Succubus but it's too strong. I'm used to the game now so should I
>Elea Priest
Or
>Elea Pianist?
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>>48272724
>>48272824
>>48272926
no it does not affect it. its purely RNG
your honey production is from the number of flowers on your base
multiple beehives also decreases production
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Is farming the only skill that allows you to scale up the stat bonus granted by food? Does item quality from cooking levels help at all?
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>>48273004
cooking levels help increase max quality
meat and seasonings can have stats that increase item quality
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>>48272978
i see thanks
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>wiki talks about buying stuff from "Farris" at home
>assume that it was the closed alpha version name of "Fiama" and that the wiki is outdated
>they're actually two different people and putting off the main quest for ages was a mistake
welp
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>>48273004
When you cook you use the best quality between ingredients (using a quality 5 ingredient and a no quality ingredient gives you the same quality 5 meal as using two quality 5 ingredients) but the quality of the meal is also capped by your cooking skill, so leveling the quality of the ingredients you get through farming gets you no benefit until you level your cooking enough to take advantage of that quality.
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why do clueless noobs write so many guides on steam
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367884304
almost nothing in this guide is correct or accurate
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gravity plus earthquake is strong as fuck
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>>48273079
no need to brag here adams
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>>48273079
This has to be trolling.
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>>48273078
Item quality is one thing, but farming is the only case i know of where you can just straight up give a new food trait to existing ingredients, and it also scales.
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>>48273079
Based...? More bullshit guides should be out there, specially on steam.
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>>48273096
It scales until it doesn't. From what I can tell the additional quality caps out at 7, at a fairly low level of farming, even. From there the only thing that keeps scaling is item quality, but I already went over that.
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>>48273096
>, but farming is the only case i know of where you can just straight up give a new food trait to existing ingredients
what do you mean by this? you can add food traits by adding more ingredients
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yeah but "quality" levels such as royal quality on good, crops and seeds only affects sale price
it doesn't increase nutrition values
it doesn't cause the lv19 STR to give you more strength xp for eating it
so if you don't plan on selling the crop or meal, there is no point in further improving quality past a certain point
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>>48273117
From the wiki:
>In addition to traits that affect the growth of elements and potentials, homemade food may be given quality traits, with better quality food increasing the experience and potentials gained.
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>>48273117
even higher potency foods seem to be more related to chance of gaining potential rather than amount
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>>48273117
lol are you the the one who made the steam farming guide
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>>48273121
source: my ass
until I get concrete xo and potency values this is the same as claiming a higher quality beehive will produce higher quality honey, when it's proven that it's flower quality that produces better honey
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>>48273128
>same as claiming a higher quality beehive will produce higher quality honey
no sane person said this
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>>48273126
what
a food can have both lv9 STR and lv9 STR potency on the same food at once because they are two completely different things
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>>48273137
reading comprehension
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How do you turn things fireproof?
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>>48273144
material hammers
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>>48273135
that's funny
the wiki likes to claim higher quality on facilities affects the products created by these facilities
when it has been proven that the only thing that quality affects is sale price of the facility itself
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>>48272617
You can use the bones you get from disassembling scrap in the recipe for breastplates at the mason table. It does still require other ingredients.
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>>48273146
can you can point out this wiki claim of yours
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What skills/spells does Quruitzia have?
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>>48273154
how about you take her out to find out
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I've got this old screenshot from when it was still elin's inn and I think about it sometimes
first time I spoke with her
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>>48273151
the wiki just throws out that quality affects effectiveness of use
without source or evidence, as a general statement for any item in the game

in my experience
>higher quality musical instruments do not affect musical performance, money earned or points acquired during quests
>higher quality crafting bench does not affect in any way crafted item
>higher quality brewing barrel produces the same 39 orens sugar wine as the lower quality barrel
I cannot test how food quality affects food effects because it's almost impossible to get concrete numbers for how much attribute xp food gives
but I'm sensing a pattern here
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>find nefia
>teleport
>magic map
>right click boss
>evac
>repeat
this is my life now
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The wiki says you can change your extra domains in the Mages' Guild.
>Rank 4: magic domain change at guild master. Only applicable to extra domains gained as feats.
Is there a way to change your magic domains if you're not a Wizard/don't have Magic Mastery feat?
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>>48273213
nope, domains are static to your starting class
if you are for example a farmer you will forever have cold as your domain
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>>48273177
>higher quality musical instruments do not affect musical performance, money earned or points acquired during quests
in my experience it does, I got rocks thrown at me at same level of music when using normal mic but not masterpiece mic
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>>48273221
I see. I wonder if it'll be possible if you add Magic Mastery to your character for extra domains with a mod, but I just joined the guild so it'll take me a long time to actually check.
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>>48273177
surely you are nitpicking these items when we are are at early access phase because some items do have an effect on quality ie. bed and proof blankets
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>>48273177
If there's no mod made to show exact values for stat exp yet then the next best choice is to use CE and get the values there. But the problem is there's no way to immediately go hungry so you can keep eating to check the value changes.
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I think it would be cool if you could get raped by the monsters
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>winter
>have tons of electricity
>have sun lamp
>wheat in paddies
>wheat still withers
WHY
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>>48273167
her full body portrait really hits different. this particular artist's work benefits a ton from seeing the whole form in action
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How long does that hotspring buff lasts?
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>>48273177
If there's a statistical difference between eating raw royal quality marbled meat and eating the same meat nerfed into a level 0 meat on bone, I am very hard-pressed to see it. The main benefit of cooking seems to be combining the modifiers of multiple ingredients, but that runs into the 5 ingredient hard cap pretty quickly.
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>>48273233
I tested it just for you. Yeah. You're still restricted to the usual extra domain restrictions without further modding though.
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>>48273291
I want a mod that adds actual succubus-race monsters and also more monsters (including succubi) that cast mind spells for them to capitalize on
and for succubus sex to drain xp from the other party
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i think you guys need a fap before you post
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Is there a way to keep equipment without having any other inventory open?
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>>48273367
can you elaborate
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>>48271800
>>48271807
I wonder if you can blast mine ruins by stacking high enough damage on flams.
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>>48273374
i tried it and no you cant
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>>48273371
I forgot a word, I meant "to keep equipment open." As in, the UI element that just shows what you have currently equipped along with the five slots that aren't part of your bag. This thing. Can it be visible without having the rest of the inventory UI show?
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Anyone know why I can't use this to create mousse? The mixer's "gelatin, milk" slot says "No ingredient".
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>>48273394
it do be like that sometimes
you can use that as an ingredient to other recipes but the requirements should say "milk category"
unfortunately mousse says milk but no category so you can only use milk from people/animals
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>>48273353
I've felt this before when 1 of my stat levelled from eating a better cooked food as well as just a raw food when I reloaded my save to see exactly what does the Lv do.
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>>48273409
Keep in mind that even the exact same food has an RNG roll introducing variance each time you eat it.
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Do livestock need pasture even if they fail to produce an egg or milk for the day?
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>>48273437
no
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>>48273437
yes
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>>48273437
maybe
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>>48271584
>Ehekatl and Luwly making out
K-kino...
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>>48273357
Thank you kindly Anon. If I also have a mod that adds domains like Ether/Cut/Acid to the character creation screen, will I be able to choose those domains in the Mages' Guild?
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>>48273458
Yep.
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>>48273463
Ok, thanks. This should help with customizing my character for roleplay reasons a lot. Although I haven't seen any ether spells so far, not sure if they're even available from spellbooks.
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>>48273469
I got Ether Ball and Ether Bolt from some spellbooks. The odds of them showing up when they aren't your domain is absurdly low, and even if you have Ether domain there isn't too much good reason to use it unless you're alone, considering that allies can develop Ether Diseases.
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So, it's been a good while since Elin appeared as EA. What sort of fortune cookie-like advice are you able to give to people, particularly new players now?

My advice is that if you're looking for a good pet to turn into Livestock, you can't go wrong with cats.
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>>48273472
>allies can develop Ether Diseases
What the fuck Noa. But maybe some like poison immunity will look good on them.
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>>48273502
They can also mutate now too. If you want you can try and give your mount the hoof ether disease and ideal legs mutation.
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slut goddesses
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>>48273489
>you can't go wrong with cats.
Sure you can. Eating cat eggs is a sin.
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>>48273489
can you turn human pets into livestock?
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>>48273513
yes
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>>48273517
splendid.
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>>48273489
Refreshing the quest board is extremely powerful.
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>>48273506
Cool. If the Ether Wing/Dual Ether Wing disease stacks with it, you can get even more speed unless sacrificing those equipment slots starts to hurt later.
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>>48273502
If I remember right from looking through the code the other day, they don't get background radiation like you do, but ether gear will in fact corrupt them (unlike in Elona).
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>>48273585
Getting hit with Ether attacks also causes Ether Disease progression. I ended up having to get two cure corruption potions because the other two in my power tower got diseases after a Will o Wisp spawned 30 waves into a war quest.
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How do you make those super foods with multiple lvl ~30 boosts? Best I can reasonably manage is vegetable stew with fully cultivated ingredients.
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>>48273507
not Jure. She is pure
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Seeing Palmian special forces unload guns on stuff almost makes me wanna reroll gunner.
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>>48273667
>multiple lvl ~30
sounds impossible as you need 5 ingredients to even reach 30 potency
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>>48273747
Wait until you see Android with Winchester Premium
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Guys does luck also reroll hit chance and evasion? I need to know this before I invest in dual wielding for my pet and give them extra arms.
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why is my little girl always taunting people?
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>>48273667
The only ingredient that I've seen with more than level 7 in a stat are fertilized eggs and meat.
Even my specially cultivated learning carrot seeds ends up with level 4 learning pot at +50 and gives 7 learning pot carrots.
That said, if you do manage to score a high quality meat and make a high quality food, Kettle can dupe it for you.
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>>48273789
it has a taunt feat
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>>48273792
>The only ingredient that I've seen with more than level 7 in a stat are fertilized eggs and meat.
you can with produce just stack them with their innate potentials
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>>48273789
because she's a brat
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>>48273806
how do I teach her some manners?
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>>48273747
Archer using guns will always be better than gunner because of their lvl 2 feat
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10% damage bonus is shit
criticals will always be better thats why you play the thief class
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>>48273813
I was actually eyeing up Witch wondering if you could do like Yerles Witch gunner, could get chaos and darkness domains for intonation status shots. Do you need accuracy to hit with throwing potions or does the splash still get them?
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can i recruit an adventurer to my party, i really want that bratty zako
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I want this in Elin
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I spent 13 gold bars on a cool cyborg hunter because I thought he would be producing a steady source of food but after like 9 days he only dropped off 1 stupid steak
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>>48273863
to recruit adventurer you must defeat them, befriend them and have charisma as high/higher than their stringest skill. Otherwise you coul either give them dream larva infused food or throw love potions at them, they have a chance to give a fertilized egg. Put it on a bed and after a few days a copy of the adventurer will be born. He won't have the equipment and the skills will be lower, if you feed it milk it willgrow stronger
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>>48273489
Steal the casino's wall
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>>48271776
Anyone know what each investment/store level actually does? How different is a level 5 vs level 10 magic store?
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>>48273865
meteor spell is already in the game
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>>48273883
>Otherwise you coul either give them dream larva infused food or throw love potions at them, they have a chance to give a fertilized egg. Put it on a bed and after a few days a copy of the adventurer will be born.
unique character eggs hatch into chickens, that does not work anymore
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>>48273863
>>48273883
strongest stat, not skill*
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>>48273893
Are you sure? When was it patched?
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>>48273908
>Pre-Beta 22.17
>6/6 2024
>Unique NPCs and PCs can now produce chicken eggs. (Temporary measure due to potential bugs)

And then it was never removed as far as I know, and re-confirmed with this update:

>EA 23.24
>11/12 2024
>Currently, most unique NPCs’ fertilized eggs will hatch into chickens.
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>>48273585
No more Black Angel with the Wind Bow...
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why do townspeople kept throwing stones at me.
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>>48273921
Fuck I have a few eggs in stock that I still haven't hatched. I did it with a named shopkeeper from mifu village and it worked this sunday. I'll try to hatch those next time I can play



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