前: >>48455991Djt is a thread for the discussion of and questions about the japanese languageThere are no official guidesResources can be found on google.com
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柔らかくて丸い、日本人のお尻。Yawarakakute marui, nihonjin no o shiri.
>>48471956where can i find a soft round nihonjin?
>>48471956
Hello, I've been spending the past year or two on creating a new and improved translation of the film "Mishima: A Life In Four Chapters" about Yukio Mishima. The official American translation are dubtitles and often do not follow what is said at all. I'd like to squeeze out a rough draft by the 20th whereupon I travel for Christmas, but there's still a couple of dozen lines I need help with translating. Please read the statement in pic related for more info. Here's what I have so far:https://mega.nz/folder/D1pVjLzC#QTshgn6nF6EIsYU8TBOPRAI am only a rank amateur, but I am confident that what I am turning out is at least an improvement on what has gone before, therefore worth doing, and that once my version is finalised with help, it can then be improved upon further by others in the future.
>>48472324https://vocaroo.com/
>>48472324where's the pedo fag quoter when you need him>>48472351度し難いアホ
can AI help me learn Japanese?
how not to be a fag? unlikely
天願の打撃を頭を下げてかわしながら、懐に入る。左手で天願の伸び切った腕をキャッチし、右手は奴の首の後ろに引っかける。その瞬間、俺は右足で踏み切り逆上がりのようにジャンプしていた。大きく振り上げた左脚を天願の首にかけ、奴の身体に逆さまになってぶら下がる。そのまま空中で後転する俺の体重移動に引っ張られ、天願の身体が半回転して投げられた。同体で回転した俺は着地と同時に上になり、つかんだままの片腕を股間で挟みこみながら一瞬で棒状に伸ばしきる。バキッ、という靭帯の断裂する音が天願の肘から響いた。hoooooly fuck im getting filtered. i can't picture whatever jujitsu bullshit is happening here
>>48472524i ask chatgpt questions like "whats the difference between 誤解 and 勘違い" but idk if the answers it gives are right
>>48472544is your problem the vocab or the grammar
is there really a difference between まんこ and マンコ
>>48472616yea same difference as 俺 and オレ
>>48472462>wherethe op
wotd修辞疑問
wotd 痙攣
JSはわんぱくね
>>48472610im not sure, i think it's the vocab. it's describing how one person takes someone to the ground and snaps their arm, but im trying to imagine exactly the positions taking place and i can't.
だよな at the end of a sentence indicates some form of uncertainty right?
>>48473014he dodges low a punch aimed at his head, draws in close, grabs the dude's outstretched arm and back of the neck, then does a backflip pulling the other off his feet with his own weight breaking his elbow in the process
what's the difference between 披露 and 発表
>>48473263isn't it obvious just looking at the Kanji? or did you not do rtk?
>>48473266i only do words
>>48473272first one is like a reveal, second one is like a psa
do you guys go out of your way to listen / read to difficult stuff in order to expand your ability more quickly, or do you just watch whatever you want, no matter how easy?
>>48473304>do you just watch whatever you want, no matter how easy?thisin english and in japanese
you dont have to learn anything that you wont useanyone who tells you otherwise has tricked himself into believing that wasting your time is a virtue
>>48473311>>48473314thank you, aniki-tachis
>>48473304generally speaking new stuff is only difficult the first time around.like I'm playing the new Zelda game and I'm being absolutely bombarded with new vocab, but every fantasy setting action game after that will be at least 50% easier
>緑どルの方に走ってったwhat does 緑どル mean here? green doll? official translations say "building">>48473304with english, i used it in games and movies so i learned game and movie english(and retard 4chan speak). i switched my devices and such to english to stay immersed, but i don't read dictionaries or anything. why would i.
>>48471878How much has Japanese writing changed over the years? I got admitted to a Japanese university recently so I have to learn but I don't want to sound like an 18th century peasant in my essays
>>48473339door?
>>48473339green dollar
>>48473340of all languages in the world, japanese is the one that's most rapidly changing at all times 50% of commonly used loanwords today didn't exist 30 years ago
>>48473344>>48473347i guesses as much, but none of these mke sense unless it's some kind of a name of something
>>48473369is that a web novel? web novels have a lot of typos on it
>>48473374no, it's yotsuba. i'm trying to learn by translating
>>48473388>i'm trying to learn by translatingthat's retardedanyway, post screenshot
>>48473394>that's retardedwhy? i like reading.
>>48473415you can read without translating.also, it says ビル not ドル, idiot
>>48473428thanks for catching that anon, my bad
what are the most common non jouyou kanji
>>48473428a lil rude
sorry, should've said something more light-hearted like baka or dumbass
>>48473350thats fucking horrible, the first language i studied, russian has barely changed for the last few hundred years
>>48473439maybe kanji for food豆板醬ラーメン麵味醂t. just immersed in cooking youtube just now
>>48473439喧嘩
>>48473458yeah and if you try to read anything from before 1940 you'll run into "classical japanese" lol, something america outlawed after the war
>>48473497basedtheir orthography was all messed up anyway
>>48473497>something america outlawed after the wardoushite?
>>48472351post anotheri accidentally read half of it
>>48473507>destroying culture in order to accommodate for retards is a good thingkys
>>48473304overcoming difficulty is a fun thing to me so i actually do choose difficult anime or vinnies on purpose from time to time
>>48473746reading can never really be difficult like listening can though
i guess a military vinny might be called difficult if you never experienced military jargon before
just read 番兵 as ばんぺい ^_^
>>48473761not really you can just look up the wordswith listening you cant always
couldnt read 海浜 in persona 5 a while back
>>48473784never seen kaihin before
>>48473556anything for you baby :3
>>48473014>>48473014 here again, it just hit me that i actually misunderstood the sentence. basically he does this around the outstretched arm of his opponent and that's what breaks ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvbZ8T_euuQ
>>48473841>>48473014 here again,48473228 here again
it appears i have finally unlearned how to reply to posts. get on my level
>>48473545too complicated.same reason we made them have a jouyou kanji list (actually originally we wanted them to get rid of kanji so that was a compromise)
候ふ -> 侍yoooooo
候文yoooooo
Could anyone share link for discord? I'd like to download some of the audiobooks.
>>48474135discord.comhere bro
>>48474135i think its on the tmw discord
words mined from today:はじめのうち道楽すっとこどっこい
>>48474224first one is not a word
>>48474257she meant words and phrases
>>48474345>食べさせられたくなくなるようにしなければならなかったわけがないはずないんですvocaroo
seems like a word to me
>>48474397?>>48474491its more like 2 words connected by the genitive particle but who really cares
what does おーせん mean? jisho fails me
>>48474584a very rude way of saying 遅い + ん
it says おせーん not おーせん
this nigga been playing the same cutscene for like 2 days now
>>48474603うっせーんだよ
>>48474616more than youve done probably lol>>48474621ayyy exactly
>>48474603how did you know?!>>48474614give me a break i was at a doctor's appointment all day today i'm tired and did my reps
>>48474629its a common tough guy pattern of speech
i did more in the last 30 mins inbetween programming
>>48474643ngmi
>>48474643yh what bongta said
already made it thoever
>>48474657thats debatable given the nangumi incident
>>48474649神経逆撫でするな
to which im impartial
yea dno bros ルウs story had a much better conclusion damn what a lovely short game
>>48474641i'm gettng filtered by fucking naruto.jisho isn't getting anything he's saying.
>>48474673
>>48474676when in doubt google it outpretty sure every single naruto-isms already been asked on there
>>48474643what did you program
>>48474695a script to find the meaning of おーせん
>>48474695a game
>>48474702but it's おせーん
>>48474702youre singlehandedly saving the jp learning community
痛くも痒くもねえよあの例のなんぐみ事件
and god knows i do need saving
wish i could program
>>48474688i just asked chatgpt and it solved the problem for me.apparantly ワーリン in pic related means "warui"
absolutely nuke tier
>>48474743わりぃわりぃ :3
>>48474743it would help if you typed the words in correctly lol
been thinking that this nigga be trollin for a while now 2bh senpai
>>48474777nah shes real
>>48474764i'm literally dead tired right now. going to Boston always causes me to get exhaustedthis is my immersion for the day, no skipping out!!>>48474762～え？！どう意味？？:3 i'm infected by the :3
>>48474783based love the enthusiasm
does anyone who even knows japanese still browse these threads?
>>48474783悪い -> わるい -> わりぃ -> わりー -> :3
>>48474800just me i think
in my head だってばよ turns naruto into some mexican gang member going 'i'm telling you, gringo' and there is nothing i can (or want to) do about it
>>48474811believe it
this foreshadowing of sakura x naruto...man how the tides have turned>>48474809ありがとうございます！:D
come on, sakura. let's got the bukkake, uh, i meant hokage
>>48474843esl
>>48474849>>48474397
4841
>>48474860?
>>48474862ydkj
>>48474878please dont insult tales posterhes one of the good ones
>>48474843
there are good posters but they're all gone
im still here tho
the good posters (me) mostly lurk now because djt died
this year is gonna be a 100% toiu year
wotd: 揶揄(やゆ)
>>48475025the reading wasnt necessary lil bro
>>48475025people say japan doesn't have tipping cultureit's a false statement. japan does have tipping culture. it's called key money. they tip their landlords
my best card yet (using the sex kanji)
making good posts is a team effort you cant really do that in the intellectual void that is the djt of today
>>48475037it's like a broker's commission, sirankedo :3
>>48475054are you the dew prism anon?!
>>48475042i think were currently in a kind of djt renaissance thanks to me
>>48475062you never answeredwhere do you stand on the ninja wars? Naruto or Senran?
>>48475065naruto all dayis that even a question?
>>48475060no im not. but I loved dewprism (´・ω:;.:...
>>48475089bongta...
need to find a job in february to stay in tokyo because my scholarship money is going to be overi barely have n5, how hard is going to be to find a baito to stay alive?(would prefer to not be a factory slave)
>>48475096dunno my wife pays for everything
パンツチラ見え >>48475089
>>48475096you know what you have to do...
>>48475116x チラo まるYEAAAH! :D
xD
>>48475103ask her to pay for a newspaper
>>48473304My path to "output" (speaking/writing what I think) is separate from input. I don't care if I don't sound articulate, I practice speaking using words/grammar/expressions I already know. Then I'll watch native material and understand as much as I can. They're separate skills, that may overlap sometimes
path anon...
new path to fluency just dropped
>>48473752this guy's gmi
nobody who gets told they're gonna gmi here is actually going to gmi (except for me)
>>48475459listening at x words per minute is easier than reading at x words per minute>b-but what if i dont know japanese and need to look up every word??then kys
>Uh yeah sorry we don't have a word for that, or if we do it's quite niche and I don't know it...yh bro we know your knowledge of the world is small
i could die a happy man if my passive vocabulary was minimum 30k (20k currently)
how are you gonna count them all?
>>48475117is she he?
>>48475510by counting them : )
>>48475498zamn my guy wants to be the 語彙の一番多い
>>48475166self own lol
>>48473304I factor difficulty into my immediate options but I pick based on what I really want to read. For instance I want to read まちカドまぞく soon before the current hiatus ends even though I know it has elements that are going to be hard for me.
>>48475591thats the one with the forklift joke
wish my dick was that thick
mines pretty much there yosh
feeling good todaydunno why
>>48475515read the text... oh wait, this is djt
おはようおにいちゃんきょうのにほんよつば＆！最新刊発売されるって
>>48475747self own
>>48475930im not part of djt
Why you learn Japanese?
Just finished with Hanahira. I may have gone a bit overboard with making cards (pretty much anything I wasn't too sure of or words that I knew, but hadn't encountered the kanji reading for) but I still ended up with over 300 cards.Planning to move onto reading Narcissu now and I'm wondering how much of a jump that will end up being for me.
What does it say, weebs?
>>48476446Look both ways before you cross the street
>>48476446Why does she have "left" on her right breast and "right" on her left breast
tfw your original correct translation offened the wrong group of people so you had to go back and localize it
>>48476266who says im learning japanese? lol
>>48476266Consuming kino
>>48476483wotd 左右盲
>>48476489I was reading from right to left.Middle is the original and right is the revised?
>>48476551>Middle is the original and right is the revised?yes
>>48476551obviously
>>48476565In my defence, I would have put the JP on the right and the "new" TL on the left since you're reading the panels from right to left
なんで 知ってんだ？is shittenda in this sentence a stem? the way i understnad is:>shitte - stem present continuous form?>nda - explanatory suffix?is that correct?
>>48476818知ってるんだ？ why did you know it? :O
>>48476861yes i know, i'm just trying to understand the word constructionis it in past tense then?
>>48476876I didn't think it was in past form... sorry, i can't english m(_ _)m
>>48476876知ってんだ is a contraction of 知って＋いる＋の＋だ知っている is te-iru form, very important grammarている is often abbreviated to てる, dropping the い. this never happens to the あ in てあるのだ｜んだ you seem to know alreadynone of it is past tense, that would be なんで知ってたんだ, contraction of 知って＋いた＋のだhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OHpKotJ3yQ
>>48477159great thanks, i was thinking that it's the te-iru form but wasn't sureappreciate your writeup
>>48476315 (Me)Besides a few longer words that might have scared me a year ago (電光掲示板、運電試験所, 免許証), it's not as bad as I was expecting, although I've only read it for a bit today. Here's hoping that I'm able to stick it out and get through it bit by bit
>>48477376 (me)Meant 運転試験所, I am probably tired/retarded
>>48476501hey, i can read that!
>>48476489i don't get it, who gets offended by the word "partner"?
>>48477506no one the change was obviously not because of censorship
>>48477506There's a prevailing view in some spaces that everyone, including straight couples, should refer to their significant other as their "partner" rather than boyfriend/girlfriend. Part of the reason is that it allows gay people to avoid "coming out" when they talk about who they're dating.
>>48477159thanks, 勉強になるね
>>48477534but then the revised version would be more offensive
Do you guys think adding images to your anki cards really helps? I find myself too lazy to actually take a screenshot and edit it into the card so a lot of times I just end up not mining at all because I don't want to pause my episode and I just wanna keep immersing instead.
nopei actually think it worsens your retention
>>48477963takes 1 second to take a pic and then hit the plus button on anki
what's your favorite theory?
>>48478005meant yomitan not ankialso why not use anacreons script for episodes>>48478013i dont believe in evolution
>>48478013鳥類
>he thinks 自分 always means i
>>48478121who are you quoting?
>>48474683underrated
>>48478417yup
who snitched
also wtf new captcha?
>>48471878wotd: リングボーイ
What hairstyle do Japanese girls like the most?
ちょんまげ
>>48478604normal
>>48478604ペガサス昇天MIX盛り
>>48476446sayuu - to control something
>>48478570wdym
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zo69VFgfLlIbros i need an 妹 so bad
men want one thing and its disgusting
a few years too young for me but i respect your taste
>>48473773I'm confused... isn't that the reading?
>>48478757ばんぺい
>>48478764yosh, 勉強になるね
best anime this season? シャンフロ is the only decent one i found so far
>>48478808さすが勉強家そのものだよな
>>48478834アクロトリップ >:3
>>48478834just watch something old instead
>>48478972there is limited number of old anime, while current + future anime is infinite
havent read such a terrible take in a while
>>48478944gave up on 少女アニメ after cardcaptor sakura
>>48475700what about now
834i stopped watching anime after i started watching holoslop
そりゃそりゃそりゃそりゃ！！完全無欠の女退治！！
>>48477963We can only learn a finite amount per day and images unwillingly take up space in my memory. Instead of remembering the word, now I just remember some vague image instead. With only having the definition(s) of a word on my card, it limits the amount of connections my brain makes to a single card. Basically, I learn better and faster with minimal information because my brain uses less resources than necessary to remember each card, but then again I do 30 new cards a day so my learning has to be optimized.Images taken from anime and vns are also often vague and wont portray the definition of the word. Maybe it can be used to automatically generate example sentences, but alternatively I've heard there are tools that automatically generate sentences somewhere before.
you didn't cripple yourself by learning kanji in the wrong order, right?
never learned kanji
>learning kanji in a pseudo-intellectualized order cringeno wonder japanese school children are ngmi
ohayoooare we not dead again or still dead? lil j status?
>blud was in a comalil j hasnt been with us for a long time now
nice try lil j
lmao he's still crying on /trash/ that a janny banned his trip?
when i watch nips writing something casually i notice they mess up the stroke order for a lot of kanji. was it actually a meme all this time?
>>48476315stick to the path~
acquired なんていう"Hmm..how should I put it..your first impression.."
>>48479727so I have never played a proper visual novel, so a question: are these voice acted? It would be nice to clip it and add to the card
>>48479752yes every character is voiced except the mc in wolf girl
>>48479752>>48479757narration is almost never voiced, and you are mostly going to mine words from such sectionshanahira is more or less an exception since it has almost no narration
>>48479727I've never heard of the one in the middle.Is it really a stepping stone between Hanahira! and Steins;Gate? I'd have assumed Steins;Gate was going to be a lot tougher considering that some of the science sections were a bit tough for me to read even in English.
>>48479727nekopara doko
>>4847977075% of all visual novels fall in the middle
>>48479770yes it's a good stepping stone. this nurse talks like the scientists in steins;gate
>>48479748learned any kanji yet?
I can someone help me understand Kakashi's dreams for the future here? He uses the いわれて construct for "It is said that.."..but i don't see how that answers the question.>>48479808i picked up 自己紹介
>>48479820it's like "even if you say/ask that, i cannot really give you an answer"
>>48479830what does the sentence final ま add to the meaning?there's a lot of new styles of dialogue in this game so far...Naruto uses rude language that jisho doesn't have but chatgpt does... Kakashi likes to end his sentences with ま which i haven't learned yet.. etc.
>>48479851it's like "oh well"
>>048479727lmao at the newfags unironically replying to this
>>48479858教えてくれてありがとうございます！
for me, it's yuzuslop
I wouldn't mind yuzuslop as much if it wasn't 40 hours per game
40 hours? that's like 2 weeks of reading if you have a busy life
lmao wtf
>>48479961send mega link
>>48480008SAAR
>>48479961gccx is shotapilled
>>48480064that's a girl lol
>>48480075yeah and girls are for horses.
>>48479851>what does the sentence final ま add to the meaning?
oh wow there is an option for "I like Sakura" in this game.the devs didn't know...
>>48480138At that point in the story, Naruto has a pretty big crush on Sakura. I can't exactly remember when it fades into the background
wow fuck you sakura...afte rall i do for you...guess whose NOT being added to my party in this rpg?>>48480182>At that point in the story, Naruto has a pretty big crush on Sakurait's one-sided
>>48480182naruto has only ever had eyes for さすゲイ
>>48479961sup jambo
>>48480295thanks for reminding that i needed to update my privacy settings
any bets on if this guy gives up on japanese before finishing the scene?
it's a long scene, ok?
long and hard
>>48480348it's like 1 chapter of manga
it's a scene anybody's probably seen a hundred times, most people skip it
does this scene happen in the game?
only in your underdeveloped mind
who hurt yall
>who hurt yall
>>48480419i just hope the game is faithful to the source material
what's matt doing these daysis he grifting again or trying to make it as a youtube or somethingor just normal english teacher wagie stuff
i grinded to level 3 for this...let's end this once and for all!!
>it was a scripted you-have-to-lose fightfuck...
>>48479727alt-f4ed hanahira midway through (im not a lolicon) and the others look like they're shit vinnies
all vns are shit
vocaroo
>>48480503Steins;Gate?
>>48480494>>48480471lol should've grinded to n3 level instead
>>48480640NTA but what's so special about N3 in particular?
>>48480649n3 is meaningless... i was just making a joke because he grinded a video game to level 3 instead of learning japanese
If I spend a whole year just reading manga and visual novels and develop a good reading ability, wlll I naturally develop my hearing as well? Watching stuff without understanding much or having to painstakingly read the subtitles in japanese and looking up unknown words is a pain in the ass and boring
how did it end up like this!?>>48480657playing videogames in japanese is immersion. you don't have to try it.
>>48480687there are 3 skills1. reading kanji2. hearing sounds3. knowing japaneseskill #3 is the most important, and will help you the most with hearing and understanding stuff in anime. reading manga/vns will teach you skills 1 and 3
>>48479727>all reading, no listeningsay goodbye to your native accent
I started reading my first untranslated vn but i noticed that i read one kana at a time and not the whole word.how do i stop this?am i retarded?
Does anyone really learn kanji by just using immersion? I feel like it can (inefficiently) assist with acquiring vocabulary, but it seems like my vocabulary ability vastly exceeds my kanji ability. I never use Anki, nor do I do any study aside from immersion, but I feel like I will never even learn all the jouyou kanji at this rate. I guess I should just pick Anki back up, even though I hate it.
>>48480701kys>>48480703>how do i stop this?read more
>>48480708>kysit's the truth and you know it to be so
>>48480707just only mine the words you can't guess the reading of. kanji is pretty much the only valid reason to use flashcards during language learning
>>48480703Scientific studies of eye-tracking indicate that proficient readers view each letter in a word individually, even if your brain and eyes are so fast that it doesn't seem like you do. Reading one character at a time is in fact how you are always reading, just without realizing it. As you gain skill, it will feel more like it does in English, where it just feels like you interpret entire words all at once.
>>48480689what you're doing is anything but immersion
>>48480719>proficient readers view each letter in a word individuallylol
>>48480699>reading manga/vns will teach you skills 1 and 3You can use VNs to help you a bit with Number 2 provided that it's voiced. Obviously it's not as efficient as pushing yourself to watch or listen to things in Japanese, but you should improve at hearing especially if you allow the voiced lines to play out first before reading.
how did it end up like this!?
>>48480730basically, if you read vinnies and also listen to japanese audio on your headphones whenever you're not reading, you're gonna make it very fast
i'm falling in love with my japanese teacher
>>48480725Do you believe that image proves anything? Just because you are capable of reading text like that doesn't mean that you aren't still recognizing each individual letter. If you weren't, then you wouldn't realize that every single word there is misspelled, which any remotely skilled reader obviosly does. Highly skilled readers generaly catch nearly every misspelled word, even in a long text with only one or two of them there. For example, you probably noticed that I misspelled the words "generally" and "obviously" earlier, because you actually look at every single letter individually.
>>48480708>>48480719Thanks niggas.
>>48480742>you probably noticed that I misspelled the words "generally" and "obviously" earlier,i swear to god i actually did not notice lol (not that this proves or disproves your point)
>>48480721THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDSyou just don't get it. how do you feel about people who read japanese visual novels to immerse?
>THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS
>>48480751>you just don't get it. how do you feel about people who read japanese visual novels to immerse?play naruto and reading vinnies is fine... posting on 4chan about it every 10 minutes is mental sickness
>構う to mind>構える to set up shop??? wtf
>>48480769https://streamable.com/67yjep
>>48480769>構えるmore like "to stance *something*"feel it out however you want
>>48480761>posting on 4chan about it every 10 minutes is mental sicknesslmao. i'm contributing to the thread. >>48480757don't even start with that boykiss meme
>目覚ましい>anki: striking, marvelous>me: eye widening/opening pass or fail?????
>>48480781double fail it because 目覚める has nothing to do with your eyes
fail by virtue of using anki
>>48480789this bro ain't know kanji rofl!
>>48480795what do you use?
finally done with that sceneit just didn't want to end..time for anki!
>9.5 hours in>0勝>"time for anki!"gmi
using savestates on cutscenes lmao
>>48473556>>48473838did you die
>>48480655>>48480817don't download these images anon. the fbi is watching these posts
Anyone know vtubers with a good vocabulary? I don't mind them for listening immersion but they often repeat the same words and don't speak with much complexity. Gender doesn't matter.
>>48480796
>>48480831why does it have to be a vtuberwhy not a regular youtuber
>>48480832>has nothing to do with eyes
stop coping its unsightly
>>48480844it has nothing to do with eyes and that screenshot proves it. you think just because a word/phrase uses a certain kanji then that word HAS to have a certain meaning? like 目的 must have something to do with my eyes right?
>>48480855yes, it is the goal you're targeting with your sight, metaphorically speakingidk if you're trolling or what
My thoughts on なるとRPG so far...Well, it's better than Sailor Moon for the SNES so far..but it's definitely no final fantasy...i can see myself playing this game to the end for the nihongo gains.There's some challenge involved in having to rely on chatgpt for the language they are using...jisho needs to get with the times and start implementing all dialects on its dictionary.
>>48480873>jisho needs to get with the timesAmerica doesn't want that. America didn't even want Japan to keep using Kanji. America's interest is getting everyone in Japan to speak Tokyo Standard Dialect...If you oppose this goal, you oppose the American Ambission of conquering Japan from within.
My thoughts on なるとRPG so far... Well, it's better than Sailor Moon for the SNES so far..but it's definitely no final fantasy...i can see myself playing this game to the end for the nihongo gains. There's some challenge involved in having to rely on chatgpt for the language they are using...jisho needs to get with the times and start implementing all dialects on its dictionary.America doesn't want that. America didn't even want Japan to keep using Kanji. America's interest is getting everyone in Japan to speak Tokyo Standard Dialect...If you oppose this goal, you oppose the American Ambission of conquering Japan from within.
>>48480899仏法ように
>No results found for "仏法ように".
>>48480916i dropped a の仏法のように楽しんでください。
glad im 10000 (ichi man) better in japanese than >>48480855
>>48480922if you use katakana, you are supporting Buddhism. Katakana was invented by buddhist monks, christianity gets the L here.
>>48480873If you are such a beginner, why are you playing an SNES RPG with basically no kanji and, more importantly, no voice lines at all? Hearing the sound of the language is really what gets you most of your gains, from my experience.
>>48480935cant say the same about english however
Anyone else having problems with NicoNico not loading comments? No matter what video I get it says it has 0 comments despite being an obviously popular video.I seem to remember at one point this was because the comments were filtered by region and I had mine set to US so I had to switch it to Japan, but I don't even see the box to do that anymore and my menus are all in Japanese so I assume the region is already set to Japanese anyways.
maybe if you knew japanese you could change your region but i suggest you switch to english and change your region
>>48480958feel free to reccomend me games. I can't do current gen yet because this laptop is shit, but it can run playstation 2 and lower games, some ps3 games too.Or if it's on Steam, even better. Maybe Corpse Party would be good?i was looking for games aimed at japanese children.
>>48481017I don't really think video games are ideal for learning quickly, especially for beginners. There is significant down-time between reading. Definitely would need to be something with voice acting, at a minimum.I would just go with visual novels or simple anime/TV shows. If you don't feel like focusing that much, you can find a Japanese YouTuber and put a video or live-stream on and casually listen. Hearing the actual sound of the language is what will really help you for the first few thousand hours while you still develop an intuition for the accent. Visual novels are fine despite having a lot of reading so long as they are voice-acted and have a lot of dialogue. You will still hear a lot of the language through them.
>>48481017gyakuten saiban on desmume
>>48481039kys>>48481017never let someone else tell you what to play
>>48481045what is your issue faggot
外連（ケレン）味出た
殺ぐ（そぐ）
>>48481039you're correct in that visual novels and tv shows are technically the best method to learn japanese quickly but if a beginner feels like playing vidya instead theres nothing wrong with this decision. if its more fun that way for the person. we have to remind ourselves that "the best" way isn't often the most fun for everyone and that learning japanese isn't a race. my first japanese medium that i've completed was oot as well.
With an increasing intrusion of katakana in place of historically kanji/hiragana-laden words, Japanese is, strictly speaking, becoming easier over time for learners.
>>48481230https://vocaroo.com/
>>48481045ありがとうざいます！>>48475089so it's good?it's good to know i'm not the only anon here playing videogames in japanese!!
>>48481270you never post any
>>48481284>i'm strong!>"ok prove it and lift these weights">NOOOOO YOU NEVER LIFT ANY WEIGHTS AAAAAAAAA
>>48481290im nta im just tired of seeing you spam vocaroo
>>48481296this is the first thyme i've posted it thobeit
>>48480958saw some another anon in a thread like 2 months ago telling this NGMI loser to watch anime with JP subtitles, because he's THAT newbut no would rather play old ass games on old ass consoles cuz he (who is trying to be a she) wants to experience the youth of a girl growing up in japan (he said this, not me)also kek, >>48480873 relying on chatGPT instead of switching something that's actually at your level>>48480943ソウデスカ、オシエテクレテアリガトウ
>>48481303come on now lil bro>>48481322i dont disagree but you unironically sound mad
morning anons
>>48481322https://vocaroo.com/
>>48481360>>48481296kys homo pedo nigger
glad im slowly falling out of love for this place. seems like the right time since this gay pedophile poster won't stop showing up. i came to post this cause i thought it was funny.
>>48481368threads never been better so im happy
>>48481368i asked my wife about this probably like 2 years ago and she didnt know itg（ジー）is what i hear
what if fake unko was the pedo fagwould support said pedo fag calling me the fake which he has done multiple times
>>48481368lol this is a fun word i will unfortunately and probably never hear again
i've never called anyone "fake"
頭に思い描いてみても、俺のチンポがどれだけ長いかということを想像できるはずはないよ
ummm mochiron i've never seen it so it follows naturally
>>48481322>NGMIi'm going to make it.
>>48481469stop hitting on me!
>>48481322The youth of a girl growing up in Japan isn't playing old console games insanely, insanely slowly while barely being able to read. It's either playing them at a normal pace while being able to read, or spamming buttons to skip the text to get to the gameplay. Pretty much all children do one or the other. If you want to emulate the life of a young child who doesn't skip the dialogue, then learn through some other means before engaging in these games.
>>48481521true you should learn by dating japanese women your moms age for the authentic experience
>>48481385Who are you?
dame that 尻
>>48481560that dude's got a bigger ass on his fucken head
lmao
>>48481380you dont have a wife bongta
>you don't have a wifenot so fast
>>48481612based
>>48481352ohayo
戦ぐ（そよぐ）
>>48481602still not gonna try to explain the bath and toilet pics?
>>48481647whats there to explain? you wont post a newspaper and you got caught samefagging with other trips
>>48481671explain how i could take those pics without being in japan
>>48481686first tell me why you feel the need to samefag
>>48481691i dont and haventnow try to explain
>>48481696you literally did tho lmao
>>48481686i cannot fathom how utterly fucking stupid you are. you're like a human yoyo that people play with or something you're so easy. you're quite literally the only person i've ever seen who manages to get trolled for weeks on end.the reality is that nobody cares where you live or whether you're actually married or not. oh, you live in the greater tokyo area? big whoop so do some 30m other people. wherever did you get the idea that people would be impressed by that? god knows you've tried to impress us with your vocaroos and that didn't work out. maybe you should take a break from this place
>>48481714lmfaoooooo
ChatGPT is going to solve the mystery of the Old Japanese Language.. What's the problem with using AI to understand things that aren't in Jisho, like dialects.
>>48481708im chilling tho just trying to get this nigga to embarrass himself some more
>>48481720the issue is that thinking for yourself is one of the most important skills in life and especially for language learning regularly asking chatgpt questions is pretty much the same level as just reading mtls and not learning japanese
for the record asking tons of questions here is also evidence of not having the mindset necessary to make it
>>48481722there's nothing you can say to rectify the situation or shift the blame on others for how you've been acting a fool these past months. it's inexcusable and has been nothing but embarassing to witness
>>48481728so there's actually no problem. people who don't need it won't need it and people who do need it, will use it.
>>48481728Japanese is not an "a priori" language. What train of thought was supposed to tell me, by thinking for myself, that おせーん was a manly way to say 遅い??It's impossible to think it for yourself.
>>48481751your example proves my pointthrough immersion you would notice people saying things like that and naturally piece it together this is literally the type of thing you can learn just by watching anime with english subs without even wanting to learn japanese
>>48481742well the problem is that they will never get anywhere and its annoying to hear about ai everywhere you go
>>48481766you must be a big fan of the rosetta stonemy gaming approach is to mine everything that can be mined and deal with it next year. if i can use chatGPT to mine whatever fucking Naruto says, i will.
>>48481751>It's impossible to think it for yourself.
>>48481751https://youtu.be/1Vw3-QTmjc0?t=33
>>48481714oh n-
>>48481806分かりません
>>48481826and how's fault is that if not your own?
is it true that japanese children couldn't understand naruto until chatgpt was released to help them with it?
this game isn't so bad now that it's opening up.>>48481836my japanese listening comprehension needs work. i might get japanese pod 101 and connect it to my phone
>game aint bad once i got to the game part lol
reminder this guy thinks he beat mgs1 in japanese
>>48481837probably
what even is the japanesepod producti only know those free vids they have that clearly just are there to appeal to yellow fever simps
my japanese listening comprehension needs work. i might get japanese pod 101 and connect it to my phone
>>48481914vids srs and a tutor
>>48481766you must be a big fan of the rosetta stonemy gaming approach is to mine everything that can be mined and deal with it next year. if i can use chatGPT to mine whatever fucking Naruto says, i will..
>>48481802gmi>>48481957ngmi
>>48481802i'll learn it later guys, trust me! the fact that you dont even see playing the game and looking things up as "learning" but rather as nothing more than "creating flashcards" tells me all i need to know, you will never make it despite what you or fake unko may try to say>>48481885also adds to this, what do you mean you're gonna buy some shitty product to improve your listening? have you tried watching anime like literally everyone else? i know people who have tried japanesepod and they peaked N4
>>48482032you sound like a blind hater my dude
i used japanesepod (there used to be a dl link for these big exe files for their lessons)it helps but its in no way a good substitute for "read more"
>>48482032>have you tried watching anime like literally everyone else?you mean all the people here that still can't understand it without subs lol
are you a big M or why do you keep on self owning like that
>>48482049this lmao
would you eat ramen with sakura?>>48482032i'm using bunpro and anki currently. bunpro keeps me engaged with input and grammar lessons. i'm using the bunpro Tobira grammar deck alongside a Tobira anki deck to "clear" Tobira. I should be N4 by then.My mining deck has 9,000 cards, and i'm doing 16 words a day.
おｇとのあいしょう: ばつぐん
>>48482081of coursei would marry sakura irl if i wasnt already married
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1868999462347325891
>>48482107feeling (2)
あまいものがたべたいですお砂糖買おうかなお砂糖ってあんまり買ったことないでもダイエットしなくちゃいけないからお砂糖買うのはやめよう
>>48482137sup bongtard
They have a very cool synonym for japanese people: 鰥寡孤独
>>48482169>everyone i dont like is the same person
many such cases
just read 戦船 as いくさぶね ^_^
>>48481766theres a difference in just reading the translation and using the translation to figure out how the sentence works in japanese, so you can figure out what you didn't know. I had to use translators a lot and occasionally gpt because i was too lazy to learn grammar and eventually i figured out how it worked
dumb midwit fuck
Reading is important and a good resource for acquiring a lot more vocab than listeningHoweverReading is not enjoyable at allMany such cases
just read more
do not read ever
what am i supposed to read though
>>48482331shota doujins
>>48482333no
>>48482338ngmi
>>48482301if gpt even existed in the period you are talking about you are still a noobthis shit takes many years
>>48482360im able to read n3 manga pretty comfortable after just 100 days of studying. idk man id say that kind of progress is pretty good. didnt even start reading until 80 days of anki. enjoying my time reading one piece right now and wouldnt have been able to do that without using translators.your view of learning is the equivalent of putting a math workbook infront of someone and telling them to just "figure it out" without any prior explanation or examples. its inefficient and of course it takes years. within a year ill be close to n1
>>48482415
>>48482256it was true with fakeshit and bongtard
>n3 manga
language learning has been solved for years, what is even the point of these threads anymoreit's just pseuds arguing about why their slightly altered version would be the difference between learning the language or not learning itgo read, go listen, go write
The only hard part is consistently wanting to immerse Especially because once you know grammar and thousands of words it just becomes a numbers game of discovering that second half of vocabulary you need to be complete
i see where you're coming from, but that's never been a problem for me since i'm interested in:JP movies, JP novels, anime, manga, Jdramas, JP TV shows, baseball, etc. once i got past the initial phase of "ugh i cant understand ANYTHING" and started being able to understand a good chunk of what i was consuming, it just stopped even being a concious effort for meunironic matt reference but he had a video about this, if you're not motivated to study japanese you should probably just stop because there really is nothing to gain from it, there is no value to knowing japanese. not telling you to stop ofcourse, cuz i think matto's take leaves out some factors, but there's some truth to it
>>48482415>your view of learning is the equivalent of putting a math workbook infront of someone and telling them to just "figure it out"this is the first competent argument ive ever seen on djt
shut up bitch
>>48482607rude
every time they say 乾杯 i hear 完敗
>>48482645thats like saying every time someone says "no" you hear "know"
djt
the better I get at Japanese, the more exotic and magical the Chinese language feels, like it's a language made of arcane spells and chants. so much meaning, in so few kanji...
>>48483016its has and always will be the final boss of all jp learners
>>48483021there's always another boss, and the princess is always in another castle...
>>48483025true true
how many kanji can you write from memory?
>>48483016>>48483021>>48483025I accidentally learned Chinese when I thought I was learning Japanese and it’s honestly recommended imo, much easier transition and you learn roughly 50% of japanese(the hardest part) while also picking up another language Plus Chinese girls>Japanese girls
>>48483031how is that even possible? lol
>>48483031>Plus Chinese girls>Japanese girlsbut my oneitis is japaneseno other girl can live up to her
>>48483086hes right china is better than japan in every way
>>48483086oneitis is such a cringe term and i doubt she even knows you exist
>>48483030i can write 正 from memory thanks to your mom
>>48483125my wife actually taught me that one back when she got mad at me for not knowing how to write lol
>>48483146post handwriting
>>48483153are you a bot? lol
>>48483156nah heres my reps from just now
>>48483164well then surely you remember my stipulations
>>48483168i dont see why you are so reluctant to post something so simple
嗚呼哀しきかな
>>48483175because youve lied through your teeth about your bongta personacant really trust anything you say at this point
>>48483186you are still very damn reluctant to post some simple handwriting in a language discussion thread
>>48483191im not reluctant at alli just ask for something simple in return from a liar
>>48483193ive posted my handwriting tho
>>48483199and?
>>48483164maybe you need some grid paper anon
>>48483206meh im fine with not being able to write pretty as long as i can write from memory i dont have pretty handwriting for the alphabet either
クナイorシュリケンどちらがにほんっぽいですか
>>48483223we knowyou made fun of yourself for writing yours Js as フs
>>48483226why do you still want a newspaper after those pics
hmslc is so amazing at japanese wtf. i used to think his accent was nothing special, but after doing way more listening immersion his voice sounds better and better to me, like an actual native speaker. im specifically referring to the darius interview he spoke in
>>48483493link it
damn the msx games were all katakana?
>>48483568コナミってカタカナ好きよねドラキュラもそうだったし
Why is English so hard?
>>48483725そういうスレじゃないからどっか違うとこ行って
>>48483737I'm going to graduate from this thread in 5 days
>>48483741ぐばい
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1868284964963500032/vid/avc1/1080x1920/vLEeDH3R0yzrTZKQ.mp4?tag=16
>>48483242because i know you dont live in japan lmfao
>>48483776really starting to hate this country man
>>48483785explain the pics then
>>48483828explain why you cant post a newspaper
>>48483031I've noticed that Chinese girls seem to have insanely hot bodies and great nipples when I look at random sluts on Twitter and whatnot. Are they just getting a ton of plastic surgery? They look fairly natural. Is it just because there's so many more Chinese people than Japanese, so there's just more hot ones by pure statistics?
Any drama that's sort of ero out there?
>>48483857i can i just dont want to until you do something you cant explain the pics no matter what
>>48483923you cant thats why you made up all of these excuses for why you somehow cant find one newspaper in all of japan
>>48483942i can but it would cost money explaining the pics would be free for you but you wont because the only explanation is that im in japan
>>48483955you mean 200 yen? lmaohere im feeling generous ill even allow you to just take a picture of todays newspaper without purchasing it
oh no, the schizos are at it again
>>48483983i just like proving liars wrong :3
害児双子日頃喧嘩突発
>>48483974that would still require me to leave the house why would i bother when the pics are already proofwho would import a japanese intercom, toilet and bath + print a fake bookoff receipt
who wouldn't stfu? you! stfu you dumb pos
i love these retarded discussions on jisho
>>48484003>that would still require me to leave the house theyre literally everywhere jesus how many hours a day do you sit in your house lmao>why would i bother when the pics are already proofbecause its the one thing you cant fake easily
>>48484021so you think the pics were fake?
>>48484037i dont think anythingi just know when someones lying
>>48484049maybe start thinking and end this or take up my offer where you vocaroo first and then i buy the newspaper its so obvious you are the fake
>>48484056if you started thinking then you wouldve remembered to turn off your bongta trip lol
>>48484086>>48484086>>48484086
>>48482531I don’t get why people mention quitting so muchOnce you reach a certain point it’s just a given that you’ll eventually learn it unless you simply give up putting any effort into improvingEven then what would you do? Go back to only English subs and awkwardly understand most of the dialogue but use subs anyway just cause Matt told you to quit?
>>48483193NTA, post it for me? :3
I don't know japanese
>>48484380ur very much ta
>>48480725>frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.Rrtead.
>>48485325esl
