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Is Akaza’s route actually going to be worth it once I unlock him? I’m getting sick of him being pushed onto me even when I’m playing the other routes, feels a tad too much even for usual poster boy standards.

>>48480989
I'm glad you are having a nice time reading Hiyo's works because I rarely saw people liking her works while she is a personal favorite for me when it comes to otome games with UTM being my favorite story about love from her. UTM always has been annoying for people to get running so most of us used this modified exe that hopefully works with the version you have https://www.mediafire.com/file/exm740o98cynwrx/%255BNoDVD_%2526_Windows7%25E8%25B5%25B7%25E5%258B%2595_Patch%255D_Under_The_Moon.zip/file

>>48481649
Can't speak for everyone but I actually really liked his route/his character in general, I figured he was just going to be a boring 'nothing going on' poster boy but his motivations are pretty compelling and he's got a fun dynamic with Byakuya just because he's so autistically direct with her.

Though I can see some people not enjoying it mainly because it has that issue of 'the poster boy + true route are combined and his route ends up being objectively the best because it solves all the plot problems' kind of route. But IMO it was executed well enough + Akaza was vital enough to the solving of those plot points that I didn't mind it.

>>48481649
He wasn't a highlight, but he had some more personality than I was expecting, so I thought he was alright. Just has the main boy problem of being attached to the hip of plot.

>>48481649
He is one of the best otome poster boys imo

Otome games that are basically yuri?

>>48481649
I don't like Olympia as a game very much nor kuuderes in general but I thought Akaza and his route was decent. If you're close to unlocking his route, you might as well give him a try.

>>48482739
Wasn't there one where all characters were voiced by women? Don't remember the name

>>48484637
Goes! and Grand Stage (drama cds)

>>48484733
>Goes!
Yeah that's it, thanks. Too bad about vita jail.

When Ooe part 2 is coming out? I will force Shijoumae to have gay sex against his will. I will make his anus prolapse while he is telling me about his war crimes. We will make the island great again!

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>>48485098
Late January or February

>>48485098
Why is Adelta so obsessed with WW2 war crimes

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Did anyone try the Kintouka patch? What was your impression, anons?

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>>48485503
I’m done with Kyo’s route, so far I like it a lot. I ticks many personal boxes for me with the countryside (island) setting and childhood friend LIs. The plot isn’t anything special, this is more of a charage and SoL. The writing is beautifully melancholic, making the character drama both relatable and frustrating to read at the same time. It’s a shame that the production value is quite poor, there were so many scenes where I was left staring at the background CGs or just a black screen with text. I guess that’s why the game wasn’t more popular.
I happened to read 7'scarlet recently and I feel like that game and Kintouka have suspiciously similar base plots. Kintouka is written much better though.

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>>48485995
I think the game had a troubled development where they had to re-do all the CG/art, on the top of the company doing two games at the same time that weren't super hits. So I'm not sure how much the game had poor budget and how much is the result of the messy development. The VA they used are quite famous (and expensive?) and so is the writer. The lack of CG at times was frustrating but at least the writing was evocative.

Yeah the plot is nothing special per se, despite the impression I originally got by the common route. I thought the gods and the island mysteries, etc were gonna be more relevant, but instead they mostly serve as background for the character drama and relationships which I really liked. Even outside of the BL, I liked stuff like Shuu relationship with Muneasada or how Souta and Tsukasa relate to the people of the island and the psychology regarding the protagonists is interesting Souta's fixation on making the past better than it was, Munesada's trauma that doesn't even realize he has, etc

>making the character drama both relatable and frustrating to read at the same time.
Interesting anon, do you care to elaborate?

Also Kyou's route is really a fun route, especially it has a lot of high quality ero which was surprisingly fun to read.. What are you planning to do next?

Do you like Korean otome/bl?

>>48487821
I haven't seen that many games to have a concrete opinion, what korean otome/bl I do see are usually novels or novel adaptation manhwa slop for otome and heaps of bl with the most godafwul pacing and plot just to get to the sex scene
I have a mixed opinion on cheritz and a soft spot for MM so not including them in this

>>48486997
I'm going with Kyo -> Shuu -> Mune -> Tsukasa
My impression is based on the common route and Kyo's route only.
Kyo is my favorite, and since his route isn't locked, I had to start it immediately.
He is so cute, sexy, and full of youthful angst. I love how direct he is with his emotions, the confession scene on the beach had me swooning. He's also quick to get jealous, which I found very endearing. The eros scenes are hot, just wish we had more CGs.
Souta is an okay MC, he's relatable because of his struggles with loneliness. He doesn't think that relationships are meant to last, tries to stay as casual as possible to not hurt himself when the moment of farewell comes. It's his defense mechanism since he already experienced many losses in the past. However I don't always agree with his decisions, he’s too nice and too accepting of people.
>Interesting anon, do you care to elaborate?
The characters have communication issues, which makes for good drama, but it’s also quite frustrating to read. For instance, everyone lied about Tsukasa’s disappearance except Kyo. Then there’s Mana, who decided to be an asshole to Souta and refused to tell what actually happened to his gf. Kyo’s family is also riddled with miscommunication issues, his brother and father loved him yet they’re unable to express their feelings properly, which was the main source of his angst.
I'm not a big fan of characters being hush hush and keeping MC in the dark, usually it's done for plot reason but as a reader I get so impatient.

>>48481702
Thank you for sharing anon. It runs like a charm, thanks. I'll post about it here when I get to it. The art is cute.

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>>48489522
Kyou seems like a fan favorite. Myself I almost did his route first, it's very easy to like him since he's so prevalent in the common route and his puppy crush on Souta is cute. Him turning from a virgin with a puppy crush into a hornog and always wanting to fuck was funny as fuck

I did Munesada's route first to my view of the Tsukasa's issue is colored by that, but seeing Souta almost kill himself in Kyou route after remembering him I understood why they did that. I actually felt like Kyou wasn't so good at keeping Souta alive since he almost dies twice, to be honest writing wise I feel like the writer didn't quite know how to explain why Shuu and Munesada left him with Kyou.

As for Souta he has his frustrating movements. I generally appreciate when the story calls out his flaws like to get Kyou's good ending he has to step it up.

Curious to read your opinions of the other routes when you do, if you feel like it!

>>48481204
>pic
Is anyone ever gonna translate this game? Don't have enough time to reach that level of Japanese to read it.

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>>48493074
Just MTL it bro. Brain damage and mischaracterization aside what's the worst can happen? The author isn't coming back nor this game is ever getting translated.

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>>48493105
I think is an interesting game and deserve a decent translation. I know the text is pretty hard so don't expect people to jump on the project but really there is no demand, no eng otome fan is interested?

>>48493074
There are absolutely close to zero benefits for anyone to translate anything for free so it's MTL or never. The few who do fan translate are likely just practicing JP themselves.
Regardless there's no substitute for not knowing the language since you'll always deal with a subpar product otherwise with any translation.

>>48492415
Glad it worked for you too! I hope you enjoy it when you get to UTM eventually and I will recommend too paying attention to full opening lyrics and to the ps2 opening lyrics to once you are done with the twins routes and the prequel drama CD which I can provide after I get it from my external drive. Take your time and enjoy her works if you decide to check more Hiyo titles.

>>48493184
>There are absolutely close to zero benefits for anyone to translate anything for free
Sharing something you like with more likeminded people?

>>48493447
The same like-minded people would shit on you for being a pirate and translating something that has been licensed. Your average otome fans are mentally ill.

>>48493447
Sure, but that's tons of effort and time for what? If it's otome, anything controversial content wise is just another reason for virtue signalling freeloaders to denounce the game you love and your efforts. Fan translations are also risky where people would try to get the law to take down your work or at least LARP to troll you. That's exactly what happened to some projects.
If you're gonna go through any of that shit, you better get paid. Though it's not like translation work gets paid well either.

>>48493184
>There are absolutely close to zero benefits for anyone to translate anything for free so it's MTL or never. The few who do fan translate are likely just practicing JP themselves.
I only tl manga but I mostly do it because I want people to read the shit I like

>That part of 東京殺人鬼 学校の怪談 where inami is mad he keeps getting cucked so he literally meta erases Ishiki from the game

I still laugh.

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Anons, where does the info about Ooe characters and /lit/ works that served as inspiration for them come from? Like Tanizaki's On the street for Ariake, or No longer human for Takeshiba? I keep seeing it on xitter. Is it just speculation based on matching names, or was this listed in some coolB issue or something?

>>48493032
>Kyou seems like a fan favorite.
Can't say I'm surprised. After the first scene in the game, I was already looking forward to seeing his grown-up version. There's something appealing about a cute crybaby who grows up to be a bustling young man but still retains some of his puppy-like behaviors. He's also younger than Souta, and being such an aggressive virgin, their dynamic is so hot.
I might post again after completing Shuu and Mune's routes. By that time I should have a much clearer picture of the game and all the characters.

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wow shes tiny. Well i dont really care cause its not like Im going to play the game or anything

>>48496116
Jesus she really is, they're all fucking towering over her.

I thought the orange haired and/or black haired LI's would've been a bit shorter.

>>48496116
Only the two dudes in the middle look passable. They're trying too hard with redhead, wtf is that cape?

>>48496205
Eh, I think he's meant to look edgy and over the top, given that hes 'supposedly' the avatar of the admin of the game.

>>48496224
That whole outfit is a mistake, it looks like something a drag queen would wear.

>>48496116
Holy shit all those guys are a bunch of circus freaks. I'd kill all of them.

is 2 dollars worth for bustafellows sisters

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Yes this is the art blog likes

>>48497167
Yes, it's fun with high production values

>>48497167
Thats a steal

>>48495078
Replying to myself, I conquered my autism and asked a nip user directly, and indeed it's because of their first names
If Takeshiba set his family on fire because his dad told him to get a real job, he'll be perfect

I feel like theyre showing all the best CGs for over requiemz promos, there will be nothing good left for the game

>>48496116
Hackamura should quit drawing for otome and stick to tracing waifushit

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>>48496116
Lol

I don't care about hackamura or her hacking skills, but to have a hackamura white knight sperg here out of all people? KEK

>>48496116
Have they announced who's writing the main scenario for this game yet?

What route order do you recommend for Yoshiwara Higanbana and Blackish house?
And what extra content did they add to the console and to the steam versions?

>>48500115
>Yoshiwara Higanbana
Vita/Switch version has a new route and some extra to make up for the cut adult content.
Steam ver doesn't have the new route for some reasons.

>>48495078
>>48498762
>Tanizaki's On the street for Ariake, or No longer human for Takeshiba
Are there other /lit/ works nips have been making connections to other than these? Asides from the ones Kurosawa mentioned herself of course.

>>48481649
Akaza is best in his own route.

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>>48501878
Here's a fun post about Shinbashi's inspirations and references in his ED: https://fusetter.com/tw/beecJwes#all
That user also has some specula on their xitter.
Ariake has further connections to Tanizaki's works, e.g. his sister's name is Naomi and he kinda acts like Naomi in the book, trying to get Oosaki's dick at all costs.
Also, just realized it's funny how Shizuma has Vera's crime of drowning a child and Aonuma Schizuma's crime of killing his brother

>>48499670
i dont under stand why shes blog public enemy number one when others way worse artists and writers then her that this cespool loves to shill.
And its only this place. Everyone else loves her. At this point I'm convinced its all fujos shits

>>48504279
its just an exaggerated meme at this point

If all otome guys looked like the slop Hanamura sharts out constantly, I'd be gay by now fr

>>48504549
Word fr no cap

>>48504279
She's overrated and had a big tracing scandal. And it's easy to make fun of her shitty anatomy drawing.
>way worse artists and writers then her that this cespool loves to shill
like who?

What is everyone's bet for the mastermind in Ooe?

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>>48507350
The obvious sus character is the helper, but the mastermind is Sahei and Ann Ooe, but Daiba figured it out/made Sahei confess (and probably poisoned him or something), hence the switcharoo
But I'm shit at mysteries, so feel free to laugh at me in a couple months time

>>48504279
I'm more willing to believe that it's mainly one really mentally ill anon not willing to let the whole drama go samefagging instead of most posters here letting one artist that isn't even that active live rent free on their heads.

>>48507610
It's basically just one or two ultra ESLs samefagging the drama for shit and giggles. They do it whenever the MTL breaks down for the slopgame they're currently playing.

Aw sweet a schizo thread

KgK tl project has been stuck on 60% for a while now I’m going to have to MTL myself at this point… its probably the jp game I wanna play the most

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Been playing Sorcerer's choice: Angel or demon lately and I just 100%ed it. I went into it with no expectations and ended up enjoying it. I don't always like tsundere MCs but I was fine with Lucil and I like both of his love interests too. I get the impression it didn't have the highest budget but it has love put into it. I do still need to listen to the drama CDs and I'm looking forward to that.

>>48514593
Such projects should just release the patches half and update when they finish another one, like kintouka translator did. Because usually they never finish and just stay like that. So since they have done the prologue and 2 routes they can just release them.

>>48504279
>everyone else loves her
Not sure about that, well from my pov at least, I don't think that she's bad but I can't take shitty anatomy, idc about the drama otomate is well known for having hacks after all. I don't get both actually, white knighting an artist that 95% did trace lol or bringing up old expired milk drama. Shitting on her art it's ok though here though, lol we're not otome reddit or twitter and most anons seem to just be joking. They do the same with bl too.
But yeah I can't think of a worst one. I'd
say yats dorito chins, but she's better compared to the double elbows. The yaoi hands are fine kek.

>>48515179
The thing is that I never see any post white knighting her but other posters telling the schizo that their hackamura posting isn't fun not because this place like her but because the person posting reads as an obnoxious ESL.

>>48515786
>I never see any post white knighting her
Good bait

>>48515786
>I never see any post white knighting
Those posts are also extremely ESL to the post of illegibility. This is what MTL does to people instead of learning Japanese or even English haha

>>48515952
It's almost as if output and reading are completely different things.

any otomes with cute princes?

>>48515174
I shared the same experience, went into it for some quick smut and ended up enjoying it a lot.

>>48516800
Recently I like Alexei in Trouble Magia, he has the typical princely look but actually has a fun personality.

>>48516800
Majimas game. He's a prince for me. Well actually he's a prince of drugs in Manchuria .
Try pilvsmps first two games. They have some unhinged prince cuties xD

>>48516800
Matsuda from Paradise will treat you like the princess you are

>>48516800
Prince Lucien is cute

>>48516800
Kageaki from Muramasa would make a cute prince.

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Finished ラス route. What was this route even? Felt like a whole lot of nothing. Fiona barely interacts with him and then it just ends with some really half baked "keep the saga of the wolves alive". Really weird breakneck pacing once she's with the wolves and almost no conclusions. I hope for those who liked his design that his other ending is better. I hope for myself the rest of the routes are better because right now I'm surprised by how weak this ending was.

Really cool analysis/specula about Shizuma and why he's likely an impostor: http://tamanonesayaka.blog50.fc2.com/blog-entry-750.html
Releasing Ooe in two parts was actually a genius move, havent's seen so many wild theories since umineko days.

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>>48516800
A king is fine too, right?
Now, if only the game actually existed...

>>48522090
This, though I kinda wish there were a few more instances of him becoming more serious/showing off his 'smiley but vindictive' side.

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>>48481204
You are the worst.
If you try to look up shota romance you get tons of characters like pic related, meanwhile if you look up loli you'll get actual stuff like Itou Hachi doujins or Usagi Drop. Why did you do it? Couldn't you just name your character archetype "otouto" or something? That's clearly what they're meant to be.

>>48522090
>>48524587
I'm still salty whenever I think of Lucien's route. Never before I've seen a poster boy got done so dirty. He got removed early in all other characters' routes so we barely saw him. Then in his own route he got shafted hard because his route was actually about MC's lore with all characters joining hands. Dude got the side character treatment throughout whole game.

Is this me or otome/BL fans are very exclusive with their sharing? One has to jump through so many hoops just to get a download link from them. If someone reposts their files to other websites they get so pissed off and remove all their downloads. And when they translate something they make it into picture format so people can't copy/paste the translation and spread it around. Why can't just they share normally like galgebros?

>>48525090
The entire fandom is full of extremely mentally ill people unfortunately. I remember when A-S DL links got shared here, someone threw a fit because you can reverse search them and it'll link to the general. Hell, it's hard to get any real conversations from a lot of them even.
While not everyone is like that, it's absolutely easier to be befriend with those into galge and find archives of endless DDLs if you just ask nicely.

>>48525090
its an issue with a lot of individual fan translators/uploaders, they want the attention praise for sharing something, and if its re-uploaded elsewhere without any credits they'll have a meltdown over it.

>>48525055
I found his FD route boring desu maybe because it felt like what should’ve been his original route

>>48525180
They need to get over it, once something is uploaded to the internet it becomes public' property and can be shared freely.

>>48525286
What do you think about Conrad? Would he make a better prince LI? Character-wise he is definitely more colorful than Lucien.

>>48525128
There are some uploaders on A-S who share their stuff without begging for likes or imposing any conditions. They simply post their links and go, no drama no fuss. I wish that would be the norm for sharing honestly.

>>48525588
Yeah, places like A-S ends up being a special snowflake culture where these people are in desperate need to be validated so I wouldn't be surprised if some are even lurking here just to find opportunities to complain if anything of "theirs" gets leaked out.
Personally like to share my stuff for the sake of seeing more impressions and in hopes that more people would eventually support the devs, which are things I did see in the past so I can't understand the mentality of these people at all. Regardless, the sharing culture where people just want their favorite things to be more liked by others without compromise was always the norm everywhere else so it's bizarre as fuck.

Sponfeeding retards asking for DDL links is what ruined everything, what the fuck happened with lurking before posting, I fucking hate zoomers.

>>48525577
Conrad is great but I find it hard to imagine him having any good ending as an LI just because of the way he is kek. He's fundamentally broken (which is part of the appeal). Honestly I just think Lucien should've been slightly less pure when it comes to Anastasia, especially in the FD, since he has been yearning for her for basically his whole life, and I guess his purity is part of the appeal as a prince but I still think he needed that little kick to him, especially as poster boy. He's still cute but I couldn't get him out of the "cute"zone.

>>48527337
You're probably the newfag here, because if you check the older threads people here always shared stuff. Anons ripped their copies and first posted them here. Since psp days.

>>48529904
This, you can only see the barest little sliver of it in the way he acts but I really wish he could've had a few more scenes where he went on some kind of unhinged tangent that showed he had at least a bit of the same ruthlessness as Conrad did, even though its tempered a lot by his conscience.

Any news about the club suicide translation? It has a fanpatch too-
>ledditor behind it
Nvrm nvrm

>>48518170
i'll check it out!! he looks super cute...
>>48522090
I have even if tempest, but i still havent started it yet cuz i need to finish piofiore first, i'll play it as soon as i finish piofi

desu lucien was the entire reason i got the game..lol

>>48516800
This bl but playing Kais route in Taishou mebiusline, made mc feel like he's your prince charming. He's a noble too. That route is otome, you can't change my mind.

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>>48536507

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メリクリ /blog/, stay schizo free and alive

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>>48537839
merikuri!

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>>48534042
You asked for a cute prince so I don't think you'll be disappointed in that aspect, the other LIs are great too. eiT is short so do share your impressions when you're done. How are you finding piofi?
>>48537839
Merry Christmas!

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>>48537839
Merry Christmas! :3c

>>48537839
But my husband is a schizo

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>>48537839
メリクリ
>stay schizo free
where's the fun in that

Merry Christmas anons! Keep well!
Any buraha anons here? I'm got into the series after a friend recommended and you'd really help us out, if any of you had any of these:
>lovers of time nayuta
>lovers of time sera
And
night tempted cd's
>rei/tougo
>haruma/nayuta
>noa/sera
Thanks in advance and happy holidays! Honeybee games are such gems!

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Where are the anons who played this, because I'm confused about some of the plot beats

>>48539386
I LOVE LOVE LOVE NICOLA!!! he's so beautiful i play the game and start crying happy tears whenever I see his sprite with him closing his eyes and smiling. His beauty entrances me in ways that cannot be described.

His cousin is also cool...i understand why people say his route is boring, but i enjoyed it (i got a little bored at ch 9, but its alr)

I think yangs route was really good!! the only problem is hes not that attractive to me, so i couldnt enjoy it thoroughly... i have orlok, gil, and the secret route left!

Also merry christmas!!

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Now that 2024 is ending soon, which characters stuck out to you the most from the games you had played this year?
Pic related is a 3x3 template so feel free to fill it out with your all time favorites if you want to as well.

gay

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>>48547941

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Can you fuck the brother in Nie no machi fandisk?
Also, I did not expect Coco to be the town bicycle

>>48547941
Everyone is too lazy..

>didnt have time to play a single game this year
sisters

>>48558857
How busy were you that you didn't have a spare hour or something every once in a while to play something? These kinds of games are the easiest thing in the world to play for short periods of time.

>>48547941
I wanted to do the 3x3 but I only played like 10 vns this year and half of them sucked so I don't have enough good characters for a 3x3... I was looking forward to other people's 3x3s but nobody's doing it either huh.

>>48559636
I was thinking about it but then I realized the same thing. Some characters I liked but not enough to fill out a 3x3, unfortunately.

>>48558311
Are there even enough bl games to put a 6x6?

>>48561717
Well, BL and otome.

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>>48547941
Just edited a past 3x3. I feel like I still haven't play enough to justify a full BL/otome 3x3 and be honest with myself about anything I genuinely liked. Some "adjacent" galge will just have to do for now without having to choose multiple characters from the same game/series.

Does anyone else like +18 content in otome but only as a side dish? I often gravitate more towards games that put plot first and porn later instead of the entire plot revolving around porn, like for example i would be more willing to play uhh "MC's adventure in some land (contains +18 scenes)" than "MC's adventures in penis-land".
Basically why my favorite and only +18 otome i played was The Second Reproduction.

>>48547941
Does it have to be only otome and bl? Genuine question since i remember previous threads where people were putting characters from galge and other stuff alongside their otome/bl husbandos.

>>48562413
Pretty sure it's fine to post whatever is loosely /blog/ related. All time favorites is just a general way of saying to post whatever you like in your 3x3. Past threads had a lot of people who liked guys from galge in a otome or BL way, which is not like something you can discuss anywhere else either.

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>>48547941
Didn't get to play much this year. Hope next year is better.
Sorry for the 2 gacha boys, but they're really cute and gap moe.

Yang probablly was buddies with epestien if you thinkaboutit. Whenever I mention that anywhere they ban me and start crying "he would never"
Lol. Do people play that game with there eyes close

Also I have very faint memories of I think it was an otome game or otome like where a supporting charcter used to lure pedos to alleys as a kid rob them and beat them up. Does anyone have any idea what the game was called?

>>48565522
Yang isn't 'buddies' with anyone, man.

>>48565670
he visited his island

>>48565951
you also did

Anons do you have recs for /blog/ games with character songs or something like JJ where the whole point is the cast singing/performing? I have Utapri on my backlog. I really like listening to characters voices and songs when I’m out and about

>>48566363
It's not uncommon for popular otome games to release character songs for the cast, I think.

excuse me, has any progress been made on the slow damage patch that people were talking about making in here a while ago?

>>48559452
very, i got married and immigrated to a new country

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>>48567904
Congrats sis. I hope you live a happy irl otome life now.

>from the games that im personally playing though, I'd kms if I was heroine kek

>>48559452
I read more manga and webtoon this year, takes less time to read too. Some characters though, would make great LIs. I wanna cry.

>>48567904
Thirdie sis got her green card!

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>>48569536
Sadistic beauty sister, you know that our queen is back with yet another masterpiece, right?

Anons what did you think of Ooe romances?

>>48570413
Ariake's is kino, esp. ending B I will never forget

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>>48569588
NTA but thanks for the new weekly read sis. Been looking for some new reads after Sadistic Beauty.

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>>48571240
You're very welcome sis! The sadistic beauty emptiness is real! I'll leave you some more recs down in spoilers. Hope you like them and have fun! Happy holidays!


>placebo (read the 3 chapter story that it was based on too hilarious)
>codename anastasia
>sunnyside daycare classmates (picre -warning you for squirty assholes and mpreg, do look past it and give it a try if you can, because the whole thing is crack and has petty dark humor)
>blind play
>dreadful night
>beware the ides of march
>kill me if you can

>accidentally did best boy’s route first
>only other character im interested in is locked
>lost motivation to slog through the other routes to get to him
Man… this is why I save my favorites for last

>>48572941
Which game? That was me with piofiore kek.

>>48573024
Olysoi, I’m doing Riku now at a snails pace and it doesnt help that the routes are quite long in this game

>>48573167
Riku's route grabbed me more towards the end, he was a real cute innocent tsun.

>>48573441
He isnt bad, but I feel like Olympia barely spends time with him in his own route (so far where I’m up to). I think its marginally better than Yosuga’s route so far though even though the latter is hotter.

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>>48489522
Done with Shuu & Mune routes now. Since the routes were all unique, it took me forever to finish both.
I went with the order Kyo -> Shuu -> Mune on a whim, however actually it turned out to be a fine order. The story gradually became heavier and more complicated as I progressed through it.
Best boy ranking is Kyo > Mune > Shuu, while for the best route it's Mune > Kyo > Shuu.
I feel like Shuu's route was too fragmented and not executed well. By the end, I didn't find his conflict as compelling as those of the other two LIs. It didn’t help that his drama was mostly internal, which gave less agency.
As for Shuu's character, he’s a bit too elusive for my liking. I enjoyed his lighter teasing moments and wish there had been more of them. Most of the time though, he held himself back too much to maintain a cool demeanor. I just felt like there was always some distance between him and the other characters, even Souta.
Munesada's route was the best so far. After completing two routes, I thought I was already familiar with the game's story structure. It was hinted that Munesada's drama would involve his mother and family so I expected that. Yet somehow it still managed to exceed my expectations. The route was a rollercoaster of emotions, and I could feel the characters’ agency in every scene. I was fully engaged to the point where I genuinely thought there wouldn’t be a happy ending because so many unpleasant things kept happening, and the tension just kept escalating. The fact that I was craving a good ending really proved how locked in I was in this route.
Munesada's character ended up being more interesting than I anticipated. His transition from being a caring and protective brother to becoming more obsessive and controlling as he fell in love was heartbreaking to witness.
I guess I’m more drawn to characters who are aggressive with their feelings, like Kyo and Munesada.
The game was also more erotic than I thought it would be, which is a big bonus. I wholeheartedly enjoyed all the lewd Souta scenes, it was even better that he was totally oblivious and it sometimes caused such hilarious or terrible misunderstandings.

I’ll take a short break and read something lighthearted before tackling the final route in Kintouka. The experience so far has been heavy yet wonderful, I actually regret not reading this sooner.

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>>48574118
Wow interesting anon. Usually for what I've seen people praise Shuu for having the best route, while complaining Munesada's route felt truncated I've seen few JP users point out he's the only route that feel like the extra booklet is essential because it gets you inside his head and explain some post route things and plot holes. I myself found the last part of the route too rushed and a bit too crazy. In comparison, I felt Shuu's route actually had a preferential fragment all the side characters are featured in Shuu's ending, and even Kyou gets some sort of resolution (while Munesada's route ignores him which I thought was weird given his dad thing)

Personally I really liked Shuu too, I do agree his route feel "fragment" imo there is a less clear purpose compared to Kyou and Munesada but I didn't find him too cold. I actually was surprised how fast his romance developed. I feel like Shuu's route exists in contrast to Munesada. While Munesada is supposed to be the "good" part of the island god, his route is the most dark, and he's taken over by madness (grandfather's curse?). In contrast, Shuu has it together and his route is arguably the happiest one for most people. Shuu is emotionally closed off but very emotionally intelligent so aware of his limits. Munesada is very charismatic and outgoing, but he's kinda mentally ill and without any real way to fix his issues and codependency of Souta because of his god complex and lack of parents.

Also I felt like Munesada was meant to be the first route you do, so while the beginning of the route spends a lot of time setting up things, the ending doesn't resolve much.



Also I mentioned I didn't find Munesada's behavior of hiding Tsukasa too bad because I did his route first, so I knew Souta was completely gone and overtaken by madness since his route explains the process well. Even Shuu goes along with it, Kyou is the only one complaining because he has no idea of wtf is going on.

Indeed in Japan i think Shuu and Kyuo are the most popular. Tsukasa is beloved of course, but Munesada sits at the bottom.

>The game was also more erotic than I thought it would be, which is a big bonus. I wholeheartedly enjoyed all the lewd Souta scenes, it was even better that he was totally oblivious and it sometimes caused such hilarious or terrible misunderstandings.

I thought the ero was pretty great, especially because Souta was receptive ot sex and even seeks it in some cases, which made him a breath of fresh hair. A shame about the shitty CG, but the writing is great. I enjoyed the scenes in Munesada route where he thinks how to get in bed with him, very refreshing. In comparison I found funny how long it takes for him to sleep with Kyou kek.

>I’ll take a short break and read something lighthearted before tackling the final route in Kintouka. The experience so far has been heavy yet wonderful, I actually regret not reading this sooner.

It's personally my favorite VN. It does have some flaws, but it's pretty much unique and an impressive work even just in term of scope

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>>48575477
Also in term of relationships

I personally liked all of them, I appreciate how different they feel and they all bring out a different side of Souta without derailing his character. Shuu is the one I was like "How will this even work" but imo they understand each other like no one character do as "fellow loners" and Shuu knowing about Souta's past. Munesada plays more like a traditional forbidden love story, and they have personally that easily mix together so they come off as "married" pretty much asap. Also Munesada is so gay I legit cannot imagine him with a woman. Kyou brings up the older a bit more tsun side of Souta that you almost never see anywhere else. he's the route that he feels most emotionally stable and has to step up, so to speak. Though I find funny how horny he is with Shuu and especially Munesada vs how Kyuo lol.


I think it's one of the few VN were I liked all relationships.

>>48575477
I'm not that fond of kuudere but I can see JP fans liking Shuu's quiet and elegant character more. Personally I have an easier time understanding Muresada than Shuu as characters.
Munesada's route was dark, some characters really showed their ugly sides so I understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea. I just love how crazy it got, it gave me such a thrilling experience.
I also think the reading order plays a role in how one feels about the routes. Maybe if I had read Munesada's route first, I might have felt a bit differently. It didn’t bother me that other characters, like Kyou and Shuu, didn’t get much screentime in his route since I had just finished their routes. Munesada's route did provide a resolution to the Natsuko/Michio subplot, and since Munesada succeeded in changing the island’s customs by the end, I imagine many things would improve for the better.
I’m sure there are some plot inconsistencies if we dig deep enough, however I don’t recall any obvious plotholes.

>Personally I really liked Shuu too, I do agree his route feel "fragment" imo there is a less clear purpose compared to Kyou and Munesada but I didn't find him too cold. I actually was surprised how fast his romance developed. I feel like Shuu's route exists in contrast to Munesada. While Munesada is supposed to be the "good" part of the island god, his route is the most dark, and he's taken over by madness (grandfather's curse?). In contrast, Shuu has it together and his route is arguably the happiest one for most people. Shuu is emotionally closed off but very emotionally intelligent so aware of his limits. Munesada is very charismatic and outgoing, but he's kinda mentally ill and without any real way to fix his issues and codependency of Souta because of his god complex and lack of parents.
I agree that the romance in Shuu's route developed too quickly, maybe that’s why I didn’t get the sense that Shuu was madly in love, unlike how I felt in Kyou and Munesada’s routes. Shuu has his own way of expressing himself, but I personally prefer the more aggressive approaches of Kyou and Munesada.
Their confession scenes alone revealed so much about their characters. For Kyou, it was a swoon-worthy confession on the beach, full of the vigor of youth. In Munesada's case, it was dramatic and sad, a love confession that felt like a sinful admission with bad things looming ahead. Meanwhile Shuu just confessed over the phone, it was cute but like, I expected something more memorable for the turning point of the relationship.
I also think Shuu's route suffered from more tell than show approach, it would have been more interesting if we could see some of the past events through flashbacks from Shuu's POV, rather than having characters sit down and explain their life stories. The same goes for Souta's childhood stories in this route, it would have been more engaging to see those events play out directly.
In terms of how happy each route is, for me it's Kyou > Shuu > Mune. I just rate it based on the main LIs' vibe.

>I thought the ero was pretty great, especially because Souta was receptive ot sex and even seeks it in some cases, which made him a breath of fresh hair. A shame about the shitty CG, but the writing is great.
Souta VA really did a great job with all the moaning sounds. In terms of the ero I think Kyou's route had it best. I also like the tenderness in Shuu's route.
The ero scenes in Munesada's route were so tense because of the unique circumstances. Their first time was interrupted by Asakura, and the second one was borderline rape so I couldn’t fully enjoy them. The fact that they had to hide their relationship added an uneasy layer to an already unconventional relationship. It's exciting yet uncomfortable at the same time.

>It's personally my favorite VN. It does have some flaws, but it's pretty much unique and an impressive work even just in term of scope
I find it mostly well-written even if it's not without flaws. I get why it's underrated though, it's very character-driven and doesn't have flashy production value.
Another unique point is that the VN actually gave spotlight to many het subplots. In other BL it feels like even the supporting characters are all gay as hell so this is refreshing to see.
Speaking of supporting characters, I wish Asakura had a route. There’s even an ending where Souta ends up with a random old man, but nothing for this fine gentleman?

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>>48577641
>I'm not that fond of kuudere but I can see JP fans liking Shuu's quiet and elegant character more. Personally I have an easier time understanding Muresada than Shuu as characters.


I think it's the type of character that is popular in Japan yeah. He's like Kawase and Kuya but not as mean. In contrast I think Munesada's big brother/fatherly personality resonates probably less with JP fujos as well how manly he is.

Kyou is cute and overall and so present you can't help but love him even if you don't like him as a love interest. You just want to see him happy. Curious to see what you'll think of Tsukasa!

>Munesada's route was dark, some characters really showed their ugly sides so I understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea. I just love how crazy it got, it gave me such a thrilling experience.
>I also think the reading order plays a role in how one feels about the routes. Maybe if I had read Munesada's route first, I might have felt a bit differently. It didn’t bother me that other characters, like Kyou and Shuu, didn’t get much screentime in his route since I had just finished their routes.

For what I've seen most people dislike the last part of the route. The noncon combined with his shitty behaviors and then it just ends I think soured him on people. It's def a stark contrast with the rest of the game I guess, which has more summer melancholy vibes and Shuu and Kyou are overall vanilla leaning. Also people annoyed he never really apologized to Souta and Kyou.

>I’m sure there are some plot inconsistencies if we dig deep enough, however I don’t recall any obvious plotholes.

I'm talking about the route doesn't really address what is going to happen to Kyou since his father's will is still in play. This is contrast with Shuu shows at least Kyou will likely be fine since Shuu will become involved. Also there is the issue with Munesada's dying young which never address and mentioned again which I found weird because you'd think it'd be Souta biggest worry. I can't tell if the writer forgot or we are meant to take it as a legend? Stuff like how he was able to leave the island, the Oumi's future and his regret over what he did to Souta are at least address in the extra material, but it made me think the writer ran out of time because the extra stuff clearly shows for example Munesada himself ended up disturbed over his behaviors and the epilogue is a bit different form his POV.


>Their confession scenes alone revealed so much about their characters. For Kyou, it was a swoon-worthy confession on the beach, full of the vigor of youth. In Munesada's case, it was dramatic and sad, a love confession that felt like a sinful admission with bad things looming ahead. Meanwhile Shuu just confessed over the phone, it was cute but like, I expected something more memorable for the turning point of the relationship.

I actually don't even remember Shuu confession lol I thought the first kiss was meant to be the confession.

>Souta VA really did a great job with all the moaning sounds. In terms of the ero I think Kyou's route had it best. I also like the tenderness in Shuu's route.
The ero scenes in Munesada's route were so tense because of the unique circumstances. Their first time was interrupted by Asakura, and the second one was borderline rape so I couldn’t fully enjoy them. The fact that they had to hide their relationship added an uneasy layer to an already unconventional relationship. It's exciting yet uncomfortable at the same time.

His VA plays a seme in NTY and to this day I cannot re-read any ero scene because it just feel weird seeing that voice act sadistic and semey. I did Munesada's first ero scene (the proper one) but I was disappointed the route had the worst ero. It features 2 scenes of Souta alone for some reason and the the rest of the scenes are meh or have shitty CG. I hate the duncon scene because it was so sudden and it went form normal to schizo in 10 seconds. The first scene is amazing though, I do love when Uke are into sex and it was interesting to see Souta pondering how he should get him into bed since Munesada is a virgin but Souta isn't Nice change of peace from the usual yada and no stuff.

All of Kyou scenes are good and he even has better CG than average. You can tell the writer was having a lot of fun in that route.

>>48578053
>>It's personally my favorite VN. It does have some flaws, but it's pretty much unique and an impressive work even just in term of scope. I find it mostly well-written even if it's not without flaws. I get why it's underrated though, it's very character-driven and doesn't have flashy production value.
Another unique point is that the VN actually gave spotlight to many het subplots. In other BL it feels like even the supporting characters are all gay as hell so this is refreshing to see.
Speaking of supporting characters, I wish Asakura had a route. There’s even an ending where Souta ends up with a random old man, but nothing for this fine gentleman?


Overall it's one of the vibes I like, it having side characters meant even if the routes follow the same structure, you get a lot of variety. It also makes the island feel alive which is IMO one of the things the writer was trying to do. It feels more like its own world. The BL is important but it also has the kind of... massive sol story with BL love story in the middle vibes? Dunno if I'm making sense. Like Nakanoshima as a place were you could see people living.

Like the whole stuff with Souta's grandma and the previous generation almost feel like the writer had this whole world and backstory for the island that existed outside of the BL. I really wish it had been more popular so it could have been explored more.

I was surprised they didn't throw a bad ending with Asakura yeah. They put a Tsumori bad ending that is clearly just there for the porn and you could remove it without losing anything, so I guess it's weird Asakura doesn't get one?

Side note anon, what did you think of the OST? Personally I loved it even if it's a bit repetitive at times due to the length more than anything (like 25 songs for a 60 hours VN?) The insert songs are amazing though.

But yeah it not being flashy and having poor CG as well being long as fuck probably prevented it from being popular. Even the common route requires a lot of investment, so people who are just there for the romance are gonna be disappointed. I think I liked the mystery of the island too as well the friendship between the cast so I was glued.

>>48562866
I see, thanks for the explanation.

>>48547941
Well then i made my 3x3 and honestly i'm in the same boat as the rest of the sisters, i didn't play a lot of stuff because university and burnout so i put some few characters from games i played this year alongside some old favs i had + a non otome character that i love, unfortunately i can't upload images for some reason so here's the imgur link:imgur.com/a/eU0zScM

>For what I've seen most people dislike the last part of the route. The noncon combined with his shitty behaviors and then it just ends I think soured him on people. It's def a stark contrast with the rest of the game I guess, which has more summer melancholy vibes and Shuu and Kyou are overall vanilla leaning. Also people annoyed he never really apologized to Souta and Kyou.
I get why some people were triggered by the last part of the route. However I personally don't think it was that bad. Munesada's actions were not justified, but they were still understandable from my perspective. He was going through a temporary phase, acting out like a teenager in a rebellious stage. Throughout his life, he had been selfless, always doing everything for the sake of the island. This was the one time he desperately wanted something for himself. I think he was able to realize his mistakes at the right moment and grow from them. His decision to let Souta go temporarily solidified this change.

>I'm talking about the route doesn't really address what is going to happen to Kyou since his father's will is still in play. This is contrast with Shuu shows at least Kyou will likely be fine since Shuu will become involved.
I wouldn't call it a plot hole, though. I never expected we’d get a resolution for Shuu and Kyou's issues in Munesada's route in the first place. It made sense that Kyou's issue was partly addressed in Shuu's route since they're brothers, and Shuu played a direct role in causing Kyou's complex. I suppose their fates are left for readers to interpret. Most likely, Shuu stayed on the island, and Kyou left home after learning about his dad's will. That’s how I imagine their events would unfold without Souta's interference.

>Also there is the issue with Munesada's dying young which never address and mentioned again which I found weird because you'd think it'd be Souta biggest worry. I can't tell if the writer forgot or we are meant to take it as a legend?
Similarly to Shuu/Kyou's fates, we're probably meant to fill in the blanks using the hints provided. I don’t think the writers forgot, they likely chose not to hand-hold us by spelling out every answer.
It can be reasoned that Munesada's grandpa and dad died young due to the stress from their unhappy domestic lives. Munesada escaped this "curse" because he broke free from the island's traditions and is living a much more fulfilling life than his predecessors ever did.
Or if the legend was real, we have to accept that Munesada could die young in his 30s, with no way to change this fate. Hope this is not the case though.
I haven’t read the extra materials, so these are just theories I came up with based on the game’s ending.

>I actually don't even remember Shuu confession lol I thought the first kiss was meant to be the confession.
They did get physical long before the "official confession" so I don't blame you for not remembering lol. Basically Shuu was too embarrassed to say I love you to Souta's face directly so he decided he would rather do it via a phonecall instead.
I don't even know if Shuu actually had romantic feelings for Souta when he first kissed him or he just did it to see Souta's amusing reactions. It's just hard to tell with him.

>His VA plays a seme in NTY and to this day I cannot re-read any ero scene because it just feel weird seeing that voice act sadistic and semey.
Is Souta the only uke role his VA has done? That's a bummer. He has a good voice for this kind of role.
>The first scene is amazing though, I do love when Uke are into sex and it was interesting to see Souta pondering how he should get him into bed since Munesada is a virgin but Souta isn't
Yeah I loved that scene too. It’s a running joke that Souta is actually the most experienced person in the friend group when it comes to relationships, everyone else is just an island virgin.

>>48589071
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>>48578053
>>48578100

>I was surprised they didn't throw a bad ending with Asakura yeah. They put a Tsumori bad ending that is clearly just there for the porn and you could remove it without losing anything, so I guess it's weird Asakura doesn't get one?
There’s a bigger focus on Tsumori in general, felt like he showed up quite often in every route. Honestly Tsumori wasn’t one of my favorites, he acted unreasonable and violent most of the time. He’s probably the least annoying in Munesada’s route though. I liked the ending where he consoled a heartbroken Souta and asked him to return to Tokyo together.
I just found Asakura so likable, even more than Munesada and Shuu. The hilarious scene when Souta jumped to hug him in Shuu’s route made me wish he had his own route.

>Side note anon, what did you think of the OST? Personally I loved it even if it's a bit repetitive at times due to the length more than anything (like 25 songs for a 60 hours VN?) The insert songs are amazing though.
The ost including insert songs really fit the melancholic atmosphere of the game. I don't know if I like them enough to listen to them outside of the game though.

>But yeah it not being flashy and having poor CG as well being long as fuck probably prevented it from being popular. Even the common route requires a lot of investment, so people who are just there for the romance are gonna be disappointed. I think I liked the mystery of the island too as well the friendship between the cast so I was glued.
I remember the common route having a lot of infodumping about the island traditions, which probably turned some people off as well.
I have such a soft spot for childhood friends, I think I’ve mentioned this before. I love that even without romance being involved, Souta was still the most important friend to all of them. That’s the best kind of bond.

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>>48589071
>I get why some people were triggered by the last part of the route. However I personally don't think it was that bad. Munesada's actions were not justified, but they were still understandable from my perspective. He was going through a temporary phase, acting out like a teenager in a rebellious stage. Throughout his life, he had been selfless, always doing everything for the sake of the island. This was the one time he desperately wanted something for himself. I think he was able to realize his mistakes at the right moment and grow from them. His decision to let Souta go temporarily solidified this change.

I feel like it goes a bit too fast for people and myself included. Many would have preferred to see it more make amend for his behaviors to Souta in the novel itself. Also maybe a bit of his own POV. I understand his reasoning. he's basically someone who never got anything for himself in all his life and basically sacrificed his body and life for the island getting snatched the only thing he actually made for himself. It's also sorta implied his dad and grandad got a bit of a crazy blood when it comes to love. I don't have issue with Souta forgiving him either since it's not like he wanted to even break up with him in the first place, but he felt like he had too.

Also my reading is that he always had feelings for Souta but he never realized because he's a bit of a dummy regarding love. Or at least some from of codependency since he's the only one who treats him like a person and not an object of worship.


Honestly I wish the "dating" part of his route had been longer. I feel like Shuu and esp Kyou luck out in term of relationship time because they are able to get physical pretty early, even if I like the scenes at the bird shrine where they talk about reincarnation and whatnot

In term of romance he was my favorite since I tend to like dere dere couples and I love how much Souta is physically into him, as well their natural closeness since they were kids.


>>48589071
>I wouldn't call it a plot hole, though. I never expected we’d get a resolution for Shuu and Kyou's issues in Munesada's route in the first place. It made sense that Kyou's issue was partly addressed in Shuu's route since they're brothers, and Shuu played a direct role in causing Kyou's complex. I suppose their fates are left for readers to interpret. Most likely, Shuu stayed on the island, and Kyou left home after learning about his dad's will. That’s how I imagine their events would unfold without Souta's interference.


Well it's for me it feels a bit ominous to see it sold as a happy ending if Kyou gets to suffer and never comes back to the island, especially seeing how Souta values him. It's like it makes the route more self contained to me? Like I assume Souta would go spiraling again if he comes back and Kyou isn't there.

In the same way I just found out the age thing weird since it's mentioned again because the scene where Souta finds out he breaks in tear and its' the catalyst to them getting together. There is also a scene where iirc Munesada gives the crow his eye when he saves Souta? I imagine it's stress related or god-bond related, since only the family head is affected and not in "the blood" like Tsumori mentions.

As for extra material, I think the person who did the TL posted them on Aarin and other places.

>>48589133
>There’s a bigger focus on Tsumori in general, felt like he showed up quite often in every route. Honestly Tsumori wasn’t one of my favorites, he acted unreasonable and violent most of the time. He’s probably the least annoying in Munesada’s route though. I liked the ending where he consoled a heartbroken Souta and asked him to return to Tokyo together.
>I just found Asakura so likable, even more than Munesada and Shuu. The hilarious scene when Souta jumped to hug him in Shuu’s route made me wish he had his own route.

I didn't personally like Tsumori. I understand thematically why he's here since it's a game about loss and whatnot and he offers a lot of interesting lore (Since Souta is not gonna ask questions and the other characters are too bond by traditions but honestly I found his character grating lol Asakura is a lot more interesting, even if I didn't 100% understand his family history. In general I found all the stuff with Munesada's grandfather super interesting and I wish the game had given more. I live for that kind of Japanese family drama mixed with the supernatural.

Also anons most people who like Kintouka seem to go crazy about Shuu so it's kinda refreshing to talk to someone who doesn't put him n°1.

>>48590670
>>48589133
>The ost including insert songs really fit the melancholic atmosphere of the game. I don't know if I like them enough to listen to them outside of the game though.

Personally I've been obsessed with あやとり and 一輪の思い. I think the あやとり sequence is when the game went from "good" to "kamige" for me. I couldn't believe how emotional I was getting over non bl in a bl game.

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akeome, /blog/!

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>>48592221
I'm still stuck in the past but happy new year!

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>>48592221
あけましておめでとうございます!

EOP sisters apparently there will be an Arcana Famiglia localization. I think this one has a fantl already though

>>48590670
>I feel like it goes a bit too fast for people and myself included.
That's a valid criticism. Even though it didn't affect my personal enjoyment, I agree that the pacing took a hit in the last part of the route. Munesada's route was more packed with events and lore, ideally it could have been extended to fully address everything in a satisfying way. However the writer was probably conditioned to make all routes roughly the same length with the same number of CGs.
I just remember one possible plot hole: did we ever find out who it was that strangled Munesada as a kid?

> Also my reading is that he always had feelings for Souta but he never realized because he's a bit of a dummy regarding love. Or at least some from of codependency since he's the only one who treats him like a person and not an object of worship.
I was under the impression that while Souta was always his most important friend, he didn't start seeing Souta in a romantic light until they started spending more time together at the bird shrine.
It's a bit hard to tell because the line between childhood friends transitioning to romantic love can be blurry.

>In term of romance he was my favorite since I tend to like dere dere couples and I love how much Souta is physically into him, as well their natural closeness since they were kids.
Their chemistry and the progression of their relationship felt organic, I was so immersed in their love story. Maybe some people are more into subtlety but for me I love it when the passion of romance are on full display.

>Well it's for me it feels a bit ominous to see it sold as a happy ending if Kyou gets to suffer and never comes back to the island, especially seeing how Souta values him. It's like it makes the route more self contained to me? Like I assume Souta would go spiraling again if he comes back and Kyou isn't there.
Unfortunately a lot of time one character's happy end can be another character's bad end in vn, like Munesada probably ends up in an unhappy marriage and dies young in any other route that's not his own. It’s not like Souta knew the full extent of Kyou's issues in this route, so even if they didn’t meet again when he returned to the island, Souta would naturally assume that Kyou was busy with his university life. I haven't read Tsukasa's route yet however since it's the final locked route I expect it to be the true route and do a better job at wrapping up the loose ends. That's what I hope anyway.

>Also anons most people who like Kintouka seem to go crazy about Shuu so it's kinda refreshing to talk to someone who doesn't put him n°1.
Well, it's all just a matter of personal taste anyway. I posted my mini review here as soon as I finished the routes, so it's very much unfiltered and hasn't been affected by reading other people' opinions. I didn't enjoy Shuu's route as much so it's only natural that he's bottom of the ranking.

Curious to see how you personally rank the characters and routes? Since you mentioned this was your favorite BL, I assume you revisit it often. Did your impression of the characters and routes change after the initial playthrough?

>>48591193
I wish the ost are on spotify. These days I'm too lazy to look for music not available on streaming.

>>48608097
>Arcana Famiglia localization
It's Dramatic Create so you can expect the "translation" to be worse than MLT.

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>>48610931
>That's a valid criticism. Even though it didn't affect my personal enjoyment, I agree that the pacing took a hit in the last part of the route. Munesada's route was more packed with events and lore, ideally it could have been extended to fully address everything in a satisfying way. However the writer was probably conditioned to make all routes roughly the same length with the same number of CGs.

I think the beginning part is particularly interesting because it feels like the most "canon" after the common route (since it continues from it vs timeskip) and if you do it first or later it will color a lot of the mysteries in the other two routes since you'll be aware of Souta's mental state vs doing the other routes first it feels like there is an evil conspiracy going on. It also has those weird flashbacks to the people of the other routes at the beginning that feel like a preview


>I just remember one possible plot hole: did we ever find out who it was that strangled Munesada as a kid?

It was Kyou's dad. Iirc Munesada knew but he never told anymore


>Unfortunately a lot of time one character's happy end can be another character's bad end in vn, like Munesada probably ends up in an unhappy marriage and dies young in any other route that's not his own. It’s not like Souta knew the full extent of Kyou's issues in this route, so even if they didn’t meet again when he returned to the island, Souta would naturally assume that Kyou was busy with his university life. I haven't read Tsukasa's route yet however since it's the final locked route I expect it to be the true route and do a better job at wrapping up the loose ends. That's what I hope anyway.
for obvious reaosns.

True. I assume Munesada will have some level with a child he can dote on and Souta visiting the island as a friend? I legit cannot see him getting interested in a woman, even setting aside how love averse he is. Kyou stuff ticks me because I feel like Shuu route also sorta saves him and I know it's cringe but I like all the cast in Kintouka and I find Kyou very cute. To me the VN is about their summer bonds between these 5 people getting reconstructed, so I wanted to at least stay in each other live in some way even outside of romance.

Sadly yeah as you mentioned the VN construction means the character you don't chose it's gonna have a worse fate.


>Curious to see how you personally rank the characters and routes? Since you mentioned this was your favorite BL, I assume you revisit it often. Did your impression of the characters and routes change after the initial playthrough?


It's complicate, in term of routes I'd rank it as

Shuu>Kyou>Munesada>Tsukasa but in term of characters I'd rank it as Munesada>Tsukasa>Kyou>Shuu. I also like Souta and how he differently evolves his in each route and as character/protagonist.


Since I liked all characters in Kintouka I tend to look more at the route construction, lore etc and I did Shuu's route last in the common route which gave me a "grand finale" type of feeling and I was satisfied with all side characters fate. I didn't like the romance as Kyou and Munesada but I wasn't Shuu averse so it didn't tip the balance much for me. Kyou's route is just very good and pure fun and I also how mentally Souta is very different from Munesada and Shuu since he's now the "older one".

But in term of characters I enjoyed Munesada and Tsukasa the most. I'd rather not talk about Tsukasa's route because of spoilers. For Shuu I remember him thinking he was gonna be mean "Kawase beginning of Hashihime style" but I found him more emotional than I expected and I enjoyed how he genuinely wants to get along with Munesada and his love for his teacher and Tsukasa.. His archetype of character often gets on my nerves so when Shuu didn't I was pleasantly surprised. Munesada is the type of character I enjoy on other hand, both look wise but also personality wise (imposing but kinda big brother/doting personality? I also like characters who seem to hold a special feeling for the MC since childhood) Tsukasa is kinda hard to speak for me.I feel like I have the same feelings the characters in Kintouka have for him, it's kinda weird lol.

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I picked up Bustafellows and I'm not a huge fan. It just feels lacking in both plot and romance.

Plot-wise The routes seem to usually involve Teuta and the LI getting involved with 1 baddieFor Limbo, it's Navid, the sketchy friend who wants to kill him. He's forgiven later for some reason. For Helvectica, it's Magda, who wants him to return to being Nicola, who's also forgiven later for some reason (also wtf helvetica? burning himself seemed weird). For Scarecrow, it's that weird dude that shows up. For Shu, it seems like Yang initially but it's also that weird dude. I started Mozu's route today and when I saw Troy I just thought "oh so that's the antagonist for this route". In general: Route starts, some introductions happen, shit goes down, Teuta uses her power 1-2 times, she gets saved. The more I read, the more I got tired of that repetition. There's a bit more than that like Shuu's relation with his family & death, Mozu's grief, Helvetica accepting himself, etc, but that's really all it is and it's not explored in great depth. I want to say most of my complaints come from the routes being kinda short, but I don't know if I have it in me to check out the sequel.

Teuta's ability I was really hoping they'd go more into detail about Teuta's ability at one point because it has SO much potential. Like those scenes where she gets someone fired or causes a surgery to get delayed resulting in someone's being permanently disabled. Instead, her ability is just used to find the nearest phone. She had no trouble finding a phone even as a 6 year old kid with his parents. She conveniently jumped into some people whose phones didn't have any pin/password on it. The one time she did, she just borrowed a phone from a friend who was standing next to her. And everyone she calls believes her enough to change their actions. It's basically reduced to a D-Mail like in Steins;Gate with a 30-minute limit. That is, besides that one time where she needs to break Shuu out of a police station or something and she conveniently just happened to take over the body of the nearest possible person to Shuu. like c'mon really?

Romance-wise I don't really mind if a vn doesn't focus on romance as long as the story is good. Bustafellows, however, awkwardly squeezes it in. At the end of most routes, you get a kiss and/or confession somehow. I can't say it's the most satisfying. you do get a short romantic epilogue to read afterwards which is 100% romantic fluff even if they weren't romantic at all during the main route. it works for Scarecrow because he's the most "romantic" person but for someone like Shuu I can't help but think they have more of a father-daughter relationship just because of their personalities.

I just can't help but feel that it's all a bit shallow. I might've liked it more when I was newer to otome games and vns in general. It feels like a beginner-friendly read.

I think the group's dynamic is really good though. It has a good found family vibe and characters are present and relevant in most routes. I find the America references funny and I like the production value & presentation. I'm glad MC is voiced because she sounds cute.

I can't say I'm enjoying it too much but I'll still finish it since I only have the finale left to go. I haven't heard good things about the finale though, so I don't think my opinion on this game will improve.

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>>48615079
All true, but I still enjoyed it a lot simply because it's actually fun to read. Characters are good friends, MC fits with the group and with the chosen boy, has best self-aware autist
Making the game not fucking boring is something I feel like otome can really miss
>Captcha: NTR 4K

>>48615309
Yeah if the characters are all it takes for it to be enjoyable then that's fine! I was just wondering since it seemed well-praised but I guess it really is just the main cast carrying. I would've already stopped playing a while ago if the characters weren't all fun and interesting.

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>>48615079
I liked Limbo the most and I felt like he got the most romantic scenes desu, at least definitely in the Side-B parts. It was much longer than the other guys so I was satisfied in that aspect. But his route was so garbage. Couldnt stand that faggot Navid and Limbo acting like such a pushover about him because of his guilt.

I thought Mozu's route story was actually pretty good even if he suffered the most regarding romance, but it was fine since it honestly didnt feel appropriate considering the plot kek. I agree with you saying Teuta/Shuu felt a tiny bit like father/daughter, I think they were leaning into the age-gap but missed the sweet spot for it.

Its true that its main selling point is the group dynamic, when they're all together its really fun. I wish the routes didnt take themselves so seriously sometimes.
>>48615309
I loved the part in Mozu's side-b where asks Teuta very specific questions that he thought and wrote down during the period that they were ignoring each other. The cutest autist.

>>48615079
I wouldn't say Magda is 'forgiven' really, Helvetica just has enough guilt over the incident of her getting horribly burned to not want her to outright die. I doubt he'd be jumping at the opportunity to get her out of jail time or something.

As things are though, the ending/'finale' route does kind of go a bit more into an overarching story, but Bustafellows in general is definitely focused more on each of the LI's and solving their personal missions rather than getting into deeper themes. From what I've heard of the sequel, its mostly the same way there as well, just fleshing out the LI's a bit more.

cute oyajis

Post your impossible /blog/ dream game
For me its an otome game with a fucking adult protagonist

>>48626864
Cupid Parasite, Collar x Malice, Sympathy Kiss, Hanakare, Bustafellows, Piofiore? Probably a lot more?

LuckyDog1 release any minute now !

>>48626864
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There are more otome with adult mcs than with underage mcs.
Maybe you mean otome with mature themes? Not that ages has anything to do with maturity in the first place.

>>48630196
To that anon's credit, I guess this is more of a recent thing (Switch and late PSV era). 15-16 year old MCs are pretty common in the PSP era.
inb4 crying about Otomate games don't count because of pointless tribalistic or all new bad all old good reasons.

>>48633665
I mean psp era was a long ass time ago, and even back then there were still some older MCs. It's odd to claim that having an adult MC is impossible when that can easily be proven false.
Reminds me of EOPs complaining about "too many otome games with high schoolers" when in fact, there are barely any localized otome games with a high school setting. Are they mixing up otome with anime/manga or something?

Come to think about it, you can probably count the number of otome English translations with clear teenage protagonists/high school settings on fingers. There's even less officially localized. I don't think the current EOP audience would be comfortable playing as a kid dating considerably older men anyway, which is fairly common in several of them.

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>>48547941
Don't know if anyone is still interested but making your 3x3 is even easier with this.
https://bighugelabs.com/mosaic.php
There's also this for games. Kinda surprised it has /blog/ listed so something nice to know.
https://topsters.org/

>>48636851
*/blog/ games

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For how notorious Toma is, his route was pretty boring. He's very bland for a childhood friend and yandere as well.

>>48640341
Amnesia had an anime so he's just babby's first shock otome LI
Besides the vampire bros clown car anyway
The actual best Toma moment was him bashing the MC's skull in on red guy's route but I doubt the anime had that

Anons can you give me some vn recommendations that are heavily inspired/influenced by year 24 group?
I mostly seek for otome or bl recs, but gl and general vn, eroge will do too.
Baraki was the one that matched 100% what I was looking for. Shingakkou seems to have been influenced too, but I felt the influence more in baraki, probably because it's an old blvn. Anything will do, really. Doujinge too. Thanks!

>>48640411
Are you looking for influence in art styles or plot?

>>48640483
Both are fine!

>>48640341
His route is boring due to the lack of interaction with other characters.
If someone's already been spoiled with the yandere twist and cage meme then there's nothing left to look forward to in his route.

>>48636761
I enjoy comfy highschool otome much more than the fantasy slops we've been getting. Otome writers are just not good enough at world building to write fantasy or scifi worth a shit, they should stick to the safe romcom settings.

>>48640341
He's mainly remembered due to memes + the fact that he was most english speakers first experience with a yandere character, even if its pretty tame compared to other stuff available nowadays.

I will say that in retrospect I can't even really fault him for pulling the cage shit given how retarded the protagonist is. With all the harassment/stalking/outright assault attempts on her from unknown parties, her continuing to try and go out by herself (not like Orion can actually help her if she's in danger) makes her about the same as a lemming wandering obliviously onto a busy highway, she's got NO self preservation instincts.

>>48641915
They just want to romance cute boys.

>>48641915
It's not like fantasy or scifi is some sacred form of literature that is graced by only the most exalted and purest of authors. Have you read any fantasy or scifi? A lot of that shit's just slop too. Just eat your cute boys in some vague European fantasy setting and enjoy it instead of being so tsun about it.

How come there's no kamige when it comes to otome? Jack Jeanne is a very well-done game however it still lacks in plot and emotional impact to make it into kamige tier.

>>48648662
Its just too niche to really get that kind of attention/praise outside of people who already play otome. Visual novels in general are one thing but this is basically just a sub-genre of that which makes it too small.

Also tends to rely on too many generic tropes/archetypes IMO to really break out into kamige tier.

>>48648662
There are a number of untranslated otome that I would consider as "kamige" which are perfectly emotionally impactful/plot heavy. However, if it's something like Muramasa or the Shinza Bansho titles, even those are rare within its own genre and probably would not sell well if they were strictly under the otome label anyway.

>>48648947
>There are a number of untranslated otome that I would consider as "kamige"
Which ones?

>>48648673
BL is even more niche yet there are still several kamige titles.

>>48649164
BL generally goes to more extreme places in terms of content than the big otome titles, so they get more attention.

>>48649403
It's not really about popularity, like some big BL titles are worth playing even for people who aren't interested in BL content. Can the same be said about otome? I think the biggest issue holding otome back is the weak protagonists. Kamige usually have very memorable protagonists, they're either super cool, rich in internal struggles or have amazing character development This just doesn't seem to happen in otome.

>>48649500
Sayo and Yurika the schizo queens?

>>48650663
They were better than the average MC especially Yurika but I wouldn't say their games were anything remarkable.

>>48649500
NTA but as much as I love otome as a genre and have games that I absolutely love and often sperg about, I can't call them "kamige". They have serious writing issues that I ignore because I love the boys and really enjoyed the game. It might have to do with the console cucking, but even with the PC or r18 titles, again nothing remarkable.
And thing is, the writers in some bl games that I consider kamige, have written otome and were bad. So the problem probably lies in the companies and old fart moid directors idk really.

There are plenty of otome that I think are amazing and I would consider kamige, but my definition of kamige isn't smth with some kind of "literary merit", which to most people seems to mean some kind of metaphysical philosophic message, it's just a game I really enjoyed, moved me and gave me pretty much everything I wanted or expected from it.
In the end I reject this idea that kamige should be games with "literary merit" because this is a worthless framework of evaluating otome to me. Will I complain if I read an otome game with "literary merit" or any of those other things? No but I might be pleasantly surprised and shelve it neatly onto the kamige shelf in my mind palace next to other otomes that people may consider lacking in those other things but were special to me. I ultimately don't read otome for the sake of finding "literary merit", or complex worldbuilding, or a deep metaphysical narrative, or thoughtful commentary on modern socioeconomics. I read them to enjoy cute boys and feel immersed in a world of cute boys. Maybe that's not why you read otome, but if your definition of otome kamige isn't based primarily in why you read otome, what's the point? What you're doing is the equivalent of trying to evaluate the taste of a croissant by how good it would be if you made it into a sandwich. You can definitely do such a thing and croissant sandwiches can be delicious, but sometimes I just want to eat a damn croissant.

>>48649500

The truth is that retarded omnivore fujos that infest otomes are to blame. The moment something bad happens to the female MC them start whinning about abuse or bitching about boobs on screen that make them too insecure. Bitch, it's a sex scene between a good-looking girl and a good-looking guy who have chemistry, that's the appeal. Instead they demand more guy-on-guy interactions in otomes, turning the female mc into a silent window screen from a bl eroge. And then, when such homo-infested games fail, everyone shrugs and sighs about female lead romance games being non-profitable.

All the BLs should have been otomes, the mc's character would be so much more refreshing to explore through openly female eyes instead of male ones. The fact that most so-called josei-muke eroge doesn't even have a female protagonist is embarrassing. Fujos give all the best to male protagonists akin to sexist male writers, since they just cannot comprehent a complicated female protag in something like Ooe. They will pull any excuse or gender stereotype out of their ass to justify their stand. Fujo, you claim female protags are too weak currently? Well, why won't some enlightened fujo artist or writer make an adult otome with one right now?

Fujos don't want one near a got guy, that's why. The only based one was Maruki Bunge to my knowledge, bless her rotten soul. The rest like you just likes to brag about it to show how your homo fetish makes you not like other girls. The best your kind shits out is a plain vanilla het romance or a scumbag strap-on futa bitch (dick envy showing) like in that shitty Sadistic Beauty trainwreck. I hope the fat korean fujocunt who wrote it gets sodomized by one of those korean homo rapeapes she likes to death. Same to her fujo supporters who shit up a thread with manhwa crap on the game thread.

Soon your pc fagsheeet will die out too to the gacha gods and join the poor adult otomes in the grave. Good luck, fujocucks.

>>48651455
>the writers in some bl games that I consider kamige, have written otome and were bad.
I guess their hearts just weren't in it. Or maybe they were restricted by the companies to write more safe content for otome so they couldn't go all out.

>>48651730
>Fujos give all the best to male protagonists akin to sexist male writers, since they just cannot comprehent a complicated female protag in something like Ooe.
Anon, lots of yumes whine when MC is anything but a generic nice girl.

>>48652104
Name one real example of it being the case. There're barely any not nice girl mcs to begin with.

Maybe some old school tsundere mcs got hate in the past. I remember reading a couple of reviews that were harsh on the Under the Moon protag for being a bitchy brat (a flawed galgeish moe character how awful), but the critics played a lot of bl shit too, so it's again an omnivorse fujo problem. Lots of demands and comparisons to their superior gay masterpieces but zero good advice or contributions to the otome.

>48651730
meds, now

Are there any games where a side character initially shows interest in another side character but later becomes romanceable? Basically NTR but with MC doing the cucking.

>>48648131
This, anons apply some weird extra standard to otome that they dont apply to galge slop and other stories

>>48651694
For me, a kamige is a game that combines everything I love while delivering a profound, impactful message or something that lingers with me long after playing. It doesn’t have to delve into the supernatural, question the nature of existence, or denpa. It could even be a simple school life setting, as long as it offers that sense of depth and complexity.
Unfortunately, I’ve played otome with the potential to be kamige, only for them to fall apart due to shitty choices in writing, such as inserting shitty boring tropes that ruin the experience midway. Take Takuyo’s games, for example. While they come close to kamige, some writing issues hold them back from truly reaching that level.
I don’t play otome games solely for cute boys and romance, so perhaps that’s why I hold them to a higher standard. I want something as well written and compelling as the games targeted toward moids and fujos. I’m not asking for anything extravagant, just narratives and plots of equal quality. Why not explore themes like murder mysteries, horror, apocalypses, battle royales, or even a heroine who isn’t out to save the world but destroy it instead? These kinds of themes, in my opinion, hold far more potential for a kamige than the typical plot lines that we get in otome.
To each their own, of course, but that’s my definition of kamige. From my perspective, it feels as though developers assume women lack refined taste, so they settle for mediocrity, believing it’s “good enough.” It’s as if they don’t think we deserve games with complex narratives and excellent writing.
For instance, if a fujo writer can write an outstanding plot for a BL kamige, there’s no reason she couldn’t do the same for an otome game. Yet, the genre is saturated with cliches and cookie cutter plots that feel interchangeable with a dozen other otome titles.
I used to think writing in otome games was good enough,until I branched out into other genres. After playing some BL and eroge, I found myself wondering: why can’t they make an otome game like this? All they’d need to do is add a female heroine and male love interests and change the POVs. They could still write the romance just as they do now, but instead, we’re stuck with the same repetitive shit. It’s disheartening because the potential for kamige in some is so clearly there, yet it’s consistently wasted.
That’s how I see it, at least. Developers don’t seem to care about giving us something truly memorable and worthwhile. They know otome is a niche genre, and they count on us to support it regardless of whether a game is a hit or a miss.

Galge have good plots yes, but the sex in the "kamige" at least is bad, or out of place and even moids admit to it. Moids are worse self inserters than yumes.
Thus the pegi 15-17 versions doing better than the R18 versions. In BL yes, they can be good, stuff written for the female eyecandy and focusing where they should and showing us what we want. So maybe they should start from that. Play a few bl like ooe, kintouka, shingakkou, hashihime whatever and take notes.

Majimas game is kamige just because Majima is in. He has the power to turn every kusoge into a kamige.

>>48654320
>imagine majima in mashou megane and kusunoki

>>48654350
I can? Both are already kamige though wdym?
Just pissed that ouji sama didn't get a route.
I enjoyed most R18 otome, a kusoge I can think of, maybe A'sring last game? That was indeed a kusoge. Even Azumas seiyuu couldn't save.
Yes even when his brother had heroine take his virginity while he watched

>>48648131
Sci-fi/Fantasy is not my favorite genre, however I can still acknowledge when a work is well-done. It's only a waste of time in otome games because the writers often go about it half-heartedly. If they can't commit to going full chuuni then just give me a cute romcom that focuses on characters bonding instead.
I read Hiiro no Kakera recently, which is as close to a chuuni otome as it gets. The whole time I was reading, I couldn't help but feel that I would have enjoyed it more as a simple country life SoL story, rather than it wasting time on generic action scenes and a contrived plot.
>>48652519
If anything I actively lower my standards for otome because I have a bias for hot men.

>all this talk about a lack of kamige
>no one mentioning StS
What happened to the /blog/ I once knew

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>>48649059
majoshoke
There are among others, but I can safely say the above is an otome "kamige" despite the flaws.
>>48654320
Was rereading Majima's FD content just now to test my new 4:3 screen. He once again reminded me why I fell in love with him.

>>48640411
13 Sentinels is a general love letter to both Japanese and Western 80s media but the director has named a lot of shoujo manga as his inspiration for it including year 24 group titles.
Ever Maiden for GL. I'd consider it a layer removed, so more inspired by other titles inspired by year 24 but the influence is there. It's very Utena.
I'm really blanking for otome, even for art style. Unfortunately a lot of early otome was coming off the backs of galge, and the ones that did go for shoujo art styles were inspired by later eras. If I had to reach maybe Zettai Kaikyuu Gakeun for the class narrative and flavor of drama, but depending on what you're hoping for it could be a complete miss.

>>48654780
Femcel subahibi version is kino. Distorted Code kino soon.

>>48654812
Based majima sis. The best way to test your new screen, is with goblino. He's just so perfect. The cutest.

>>48640411
>>48657074
If you’re going to bring up ZKG I wonder if Hana Awase would have potential. It has influence from older shoujo in a similar way, there’s also some GL elements.

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>>48657346
>He's just so perfect. The cutest.
Majima's shiteating grin is just too charming.
>>48657074
>Zettai Kaikyuu Gakeun
It's an extremely flawed work, but I thought it ends up being a fairly enjoyable read for what it is. Probably better if you're only interested in one or two LIs, though. A lot of VNs are naturally repetitive with its writing but the repeating content throughout the routes in ZKG is probably a tad higher. Regardless, I can genuinely recommend Haru and his route to anyone who wants something a bit more plot oriented and thought provoking for an otomeeven though my heart lies with Riku

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i know it's not meant to be gay but it makes me kek how homoerotic it sounds

>>48660537
It's funny because they do get a homo joke ending anyway

>>48660537
I've yet to read a chuunige that's not gay af, sometimes I think it has to be intentional surely.

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All this talk about kamige made me curious, so I went to EGS to check the top-rated BL/otome games there. I'm aware that fujoshi and yume don't use this site, however it's still interesting to see how non-typical players rate these games.

I set the minimum sample size to 20 to get the most accurate results possible. This led to some highly rated games like Shinigami to Shoujo and Kintouka missing the list since they have too few samples on the site.

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>>48662512
The results for the BL side are not too bad. However, the otome side is just funny as most of the list consists of doujin works.