Previous thread: >>48492533This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
hating yuzusoft does not make you cool
I want Uino route...
>>48536096I like yuzusoft, but I also hate them because they always fuck their games up by adding some half-assed fantasy setting that never gets used to even 30% of its potential.
>>48536259this + pointless drama + overused, recycled plotlines + barely any anal
>>48536096Their games dont have threesomes so they are kusoge maker in my book
>>48536096Never read any Yuzuslop. Never will. Simple as.
>>48536259dracu riot has the coolest setting but I agree it could be much more.
I just booted up Majikoi and it told me merry christmas, checked and realized it is actually christmas. So I'm here. Merry kuri and happy holidays.
I read SeaBed and it was pretty good
>>48537482>all ages
>>48537407You should also remember to boot up Majikoi S on your birthday (assuming you input it during install).
>>48534833Merry Christmas
>>48537635Wish they were smaller...
Thank you Sara.
>>48537793Wait until you find out she has a complex because they are too small.
>>48538318I already knew, and it annoys me.
>>48537635merikuri anon~
>>48536403but Tenshin Ranman...
>>48538547Joke endings don't really count.
A bit late but I posted it
>>48534833cute suzakuin
>>48537407Merry Christmas Anon!
Now that's a plot twist
Why was Garden never finished?
>>48540682Oh no?
Any non-nukige VNs with a female protagonist who is usually nice and innocent, but can whore out in one of the routes?Thanks in advance sirs
>killing can be justified as a moral necessityAny VNs with this theme? Basically ones with the opposite of Muramasa's philosophy.
>>48540682sneed this what game good sir
Finished Bansenjin, so now that's all of Senshinkan complete.Bansenjin is a very strange VN. It feels inspired by F/HA - alternating between using a map to select characters for comedy scenes during the day and action/drama at night, one of the two new main heroines is a female version of and a descendent of one of the main antagonists of the previous VN, and there's a big twist involving bodily possession. My biggest problem with the VN is that while I really liked everything in it, there's a lot I wish got more time to be better fleshed out. Kriemheld is in literally two scenes, Inverted Cross Mark 2 is an actual palette swap and also stuck in only two scenes, and Fan Jinlong is cool as fuck and is a fucking incredible antagonist with a really interesting backstory, philosophy, and powerset, so I really wish he got to be in more than the last 5% of the VN. I mostly came out of it wishing this was Senshinkan 3 and Masada had made a VN about the Manchuria Incident that was Senshinkan 2.All in all I really liked Senshinkan. Fun set of VNs, well worth reading if you like chuunige. Also, fuck you Masada, you seriously made me replay the game four times to get all the hidden medals to get the super secret bonus scenes for all the heroines and all Rinko gets is a gag scene where a bird shits on her?
>>48543336I don't think these all got posted here so if you or anyone else wants to read Masada's recent Senshinkan blog posts with G's extra drawings here they are.https://rentry.co/wgqq24xchttps://rentry.co/e7inxokshttps://rentry.co/hkbk4itwhttps://rentry.co/bvaww3r7https://rentry.co/hwo9xdpvhttps://rentry.co/558yn4c2https://rentry.co/apb68dnq
>>48543424Poor Nobuaki...not even invited...
>>48542646Kira Kira
>>45184922Late reply but no one ever mentions every time I look at the credits for a random MAGES game made after like 2010 it's almost all nukige writers even if it's the same guy providing the plot structure. I think occultic nine and anonymous code flopped too and the latter seemed like they actually tried with the budget
https://www.alicesoft.com/information/2024/entry003593.html>現在、アリスソフトでは超昂大戦の他、新作タイトルの開発ラインが複数稼働してます。２０２５年はそちらのタイトル発表も出来たらと思います。それでは皆さん、今後ともアリスソフトをよろしくお願いいたします。Will the giant finally wake up?
>>48544248I hope it's not bait for gacha bullshit.
>>48543336The last part of Bansenjin is amazing. But yeah there were some pretty obvious missteps that could have been easily missed. Keira also felt really underused.
Anyone got any suggestions for an engrossing VN for an early intermediate learner? Not really looking for anything pornographic.I'm also gonna try Doki Doki Literature Club in Japanese, despite it being a Western game.
>>48546324>I'm also gonna try Doki Doki Literature Club in Japanese,don't, the blatant MTL is actually painful
>>48546324マルコと銀河竜Image to text ratio is so high that it's more like a colored manga with voice acting than a novel, which would make it way easier for you. Without exaggeration there's less than like 5 lines of narration it's all imagery and dialogue. Also has cute lolis with a few ecchi shots but no porn. No porn means they were able to hire big name anime VAs if you care about that. Overall story is kind of hard to care about but the individual scenes that make it up are really good so it's entertaining
>>48546324I've started my Japanese journey with Sanoba Witch. Yuzusoft titles seem like a good way to get into the language.obviously get a hooker
>not a fully formed from birth pure blooded jop>all ages>ddlc>please wait 999 seconds before postingキモ
>>48546525I jerk off and the need for hookers vanishes
>>48546324The Emit Trilogy by Koei is a great choice for beginners.I recommend against reading works translated into Japanese as an early learner. Japanese translations are in my experience often worse and less accurate than even typical English Translations.
I was ill on chrismas day, so I couldn't be there to hear my waifu say merry chistmas... I've never felt so lonely...
>>48546324イハナシの魔女
>>48546883what if i dont want to read about a nigress
>>48546971Youre already plnning on reading western slop, why not go all in on western ideology
>>48546991i hate i don't have a quip to counter thatfuck you fag kys m8fucking damn it i didn't expect to close out the year by losing a meme argument on 4chan this fucking badly over A FUCKING QUIPI WAS JUST TRYING TO BE LE FUNNY
>>48546971understandable, I wouldn't want to read about your life either
>>48547041you ruined it, it was so perfect up until this pointwhy are you like this? you are not getting upvotes here either for that low effort "please upvote this" bait
>>48547062epic post, upvoted
>>48547078thanks kind saar
>>48546971>nigressretard
>>48546423Fair. I guess it was kind of silly of me to expect it to have anything other than a machine translation. Yeah, I'll probably skip it then because I'm trying to only really use content with natural Japanese.>>48546464I'll take a look at this. I can handle something a little more difficult though, by the looks of it.>>48546525I'll take a look at this as well as other Yuzusoft titles. I have a text hooker and all that set up already.>>48546613I'll check it out, thanks. Fairly straightforward setup?>>48546883This looks neat. I very much enjoyed my time in Okinawa. Been thinking about finding some content that takes place there.Thanks, guys.
>>48546423>>48547125Unrelated but I'm actually annoyed how fucking awful most westoid game JP translations are, unironically even MTL would be better from how shit they can be.One particular example that still sticks with me is trying to play one step to eden when I was first starting out and not only almost nothing in the menus lining up to how you would normally write them in japanese (and some being outright wrong), but basically all the card names being in raw katakana, making the game functionally unplayable if you try to read instead of going off images and prior game knowledge.Why even bother at that point?
>>48547169Heh, you can't even superimpose the actual meaning over the katakana in your mind? This is practically the first skillus superior MTLers learn when we replace mistranslated "he" with the correct "she". You can't even figure that out? Huh Jop-virgin? how sad!
>Resolution 1024x576>2020AAAAAAIIIIIEEEE
>>48546971Dangerously based
Looks like the new milk factory site is up. It is taking a LONG time to load, though. Maybe it'd be better to try after most of the Japanese aren't rushing the site.
>>48547246You need more?
Have there been any good games with loli heroines released this year?
how do I reduce eye strain?
>>48547835Think you missed your search engine.
>>48547835Read in better lighting.
>>48547835Sleep + vitamin a (preferably from natural source).
>>48544248Yep, we are back. Hopefully one of those is Dohna Dohna 2
>>48548160>Dohna Dohna 2Yeah, good luck with that.
https://vndb.org/v1863Write a spoiler-free review anons
>>48548160lmao
>>48548208"it was all a dream" Sucks ass.
>>48547835Stop reading in a dark ass room with a searing bright monitor in front of you.Reduce the brightness of your monitor as low as you can handle until you actually start straining to read from how dark it is, then bump it back up 3-5 points (usually this will be in the 15-25 brightness of most monitors, the nits war of oled is a scam btw).Then get one of those shitty meme night lights for kids, any kind of book reading lamp, or straight up RGoyB led strips, then turn them on and blast warm light around your room, anywhere will do, just NOT right behind the monitor (an actual lightbulb is too bright and will cause issues).Aside from that it's just the usual combo meal of sunlight, looking at far away objects for 30 seconds every 30 minutes to stop eye muscle cramps long term, better diets, and not having a shit sleep schedule.
>>48548184Freelancers can work in their previous home must fine
>>48548263Gyokai does all-ages gacha now and Ittenchiroku already made a Dohna Dohna clone for another company (also all-ages). The only one that would potentially come back would be Dice, and the scenario was by far the worst part about Dohna Dohna.
>>48543926For real? I started reading it recently.
>>48548289Make sure to watch Eidelweiss too if you like philosophy, they're very good VNs.
>>48546883>イハナシの魔女Anyone played their other game カガミハラ／ジャスティス? It's on sw*tch sale too.
BIG announcementhttps://x.com/milkfactory_/status/1872297890993131668
>>48548777Everyone looks good except purple who looks like she's having a stroke.
>>48548777Looks like AI garbage
>>48548777Milk factory is hard carried by the format of their games which is really good and also the protagonists being hardcore womanizers. Imagine that redone with actually cute heroines and you'd have something
>>48548805She's upset that she isn't actively turning her tits into B cups. I wonder if she's a test run for a smaller boob game or something.
>>48548833>with actually cute heroinesHere you go >>48548777
>>48548956>AI filterWhat happened?
>>48548972It's not the Select Oblige artist, so it's time to downgrade back to that garbage art.
dont forget to join the sadpanda new year thread
madosoft target audience are not plot lovers they really shot themselves in the foot making their latest release that way (it's more plot oriented rather than moege), guess they had to make that anime and release that spin off in order to retain their audience
>>48548777Looks worse than the maid one
>>48549110The problem with Select Oblige is it tried to pivot to moege in the routes. The routes were largely terrible but the common route was really great. It was pretty disappointing, but a strong showing for a new studio. I hope they can focus on their strengths in future titles
>>48548777I can only tell who the redhead is inspired by.
best version of portopia?
>>48546324>I'm also gonna try Doki Doki Literature Club in JapaneseWhy anyone ever play a game made by an ironyweeb that hates you and everything you stand for? It's beyond me.
>>48549110Skill issueEnsemble did fine
>>48549181I agree that the routes are disappointing but the common route still show potential. I hope that madosoft do a plotge in one year and a moege in another year. No need to completely pivot in one way or another.
>>48549181>is it tried to pivot to moege in the routesHow many moege feature karate duels with your evil half-sister?
>>48549652there's people that pay for not-gay nukige with 3 times the male characters compared to the female ones.
Is there a nodisc patch for Oretsuba Prelude? I can't get the game running even when I mount the disc virtually.
>>48551301found it in the archivehttps://files.catbox.moe/4m9idl.rar
>>48551347thanks buddy
Ah fucking hell, I'm about halfway through a VN when I just relalised its an enfored route VN and it doesn't give any choies on the first playhrough. I will NEVER play a heroine's route I don't want.
skill issue
This place is so dead, im going to /vn/
>>48552296w-we have better quality discussion tho, we're smarter too!
>>48552296some of us are actually busy reading eroge and not spamming the same shitpost over and over again like in /vn/
>>48552296>>48552558Ironyweeb bros...
>>48552884Ironyweeb vinnie enjoyer bros... I'm not feeling too well.
>>48552296Go read eroge and spend time with your current heroine instead of wanting to shitpost in an anonymous forum
>>48552915But DDLC taught me (>>48546324) that dating sims are evil and I shouldn't like fictional characters.
i only read pre-2000 vinnies
>>48552937Hehehe... Casual. post-2000 VNs are all escapist slop. Now the 1980s had real art, just like in anime and manga.
>>48552915I'm doing both though
any good nukige with hag heroines?
>>48553420There are like an ocean of those man just pick one
>>48553420Try studio pork games.
>>48553436to correct myself, i'm not referring to the standard mother or aunt type heroine but actual grandmother. i haven't found anything outside of like 2 or 3 games from appetite but since it's appetite i bet they are garbage>>48553441thanks anon, will check it out
I DON'T WANNA GO BACK TO LIFTING HEAVY THINGS IN FACTORY FOR MINIMUM WAGE
>>48553441>studio pork>porkStop eating buta inshallah.
>>48553731>double ahogeWhy is she like this
do you guys also read good vinnies? or only stuff without en patches?
>>48553766you know what ahoge represents? it's because she is double that
>>48553775I enjoy those types of charas. Is she best girl?
>>48553771Anything my MTL can handle is good enough for me.
>>48553783She has no route mate.>>48553791this anon reads pork studio visual novelas
>>48553800John Pork is a great developer, always enjoy his content.
>mtl>/uvng/ has fallen...
>>48548208Ok I will play fuck you all
>>48548208my review: it's shit
>>48553827not at all my brother, I'm a jopper just like you since nowadays I only read untranslated vinnies.
>>48553800>She has no route mate.We need to cancel the game for making a double ahoge chara without a route.
gotten to the point where i have to brute force my attention span and set a timer so all i do is read and do absolutely nothing elsei dont know how i got to this point but hope its fixable, i used be able to spend all day sitting just reading a vn
>>48554243You're just losing interest in the stories, or the stories just aren't good. If it doesn't grab your attention immediately just skip to the interesting parts.
>>48554265it's like this for everything, video games, books, manga, anime/showsi cant stop alttabing and doing something else
>>48554315I need to switch of my internet if I want to read anything
>>48554315Are you doing all those things in the same room, on the same computer?
>>48554338yes aside from books and manga which i use a tablet for
>>48552931wonder why the fuck do irony faggots love that shit so much
>>48554345What worked for me was bringing my tablet to my bedroom to read, no distractions, no computer, if I had a desire to mindlessly scroll youtube I would have had to go through the effort to get out my bed and enter a new room so that would keep me were I was.You need to make doing the distracting thing more difficult or inconvenient to want to do, even just slightly. Changing scenery also adjusts you to a different mindset which can help.
>>48554315Turn off your internet, get enough sleep, try lo limit outside distractions like noises and lighting (simply changing the position of your desk/laptop might be enough), take a break and do something else (with limited or no access to the internet) until you start wanting to read something.
>>48554418>>48554377Not him but thanks for the advice. I'm struggling recently with altabbing issues too.
>>48554345>>48554315If you're really desperate and want to stay in the same room and pc you could use coldturkey it's paid tho
Would anyone here know how would rezero (ln or wn) compare in difficulty to something like masada
Can't seem to find any good recap about what's coming in 2025, are any of those true? Innogrey, doko?
>>48555042黒白のアヴェスター should come out 2025
>>48555042Baldr reboot by the now defunct Giga, really?
do you niggers actually find it hard to focus on media when you want to? is the zoomie AHDH this fucking bad?
>>48555042https://vndb.org/v?cfil=&f=023gja0272_0ceJ474_0ch7K&fil=&p=1&rfil=&s=26y
>>48543424It kinda makes me realize why he never goes where i want him to go in his works >>48544248I'm betting on a new mobilçe/gacha shit or worse an all ages shit
>>48555070Both parts or only the first one? Supposedly, the first one should have come out in 2023...I want to believe, but something feels wrong with how the whole thing is going.
>>48555962The first one. They got back to working on it this year and just have bug fixes left.
I've got like 50 VNs in my drive and only enough time to finish one a month, and that's if I concentrate all my efforts on it. I'm almost regretting getting into the medium, I always have a good time but it's a massive timesink.
>>48556051Yeah it's crazy how long a good VN is compared to multiple arcs of a good manga
>>48556051No different than your average book, both take the same amount of time for me.It shouldn't take you more than 2 days for medium 3 for long. (SO long as you're only pursuing one heroine as you should, you're not a filthy cheater are you? You wouldn't make your waifu cry finding out you fuck other girls right?)
>>48556051Reading a good VN is superior to the vast majority of ways people typically kill time. Don't feel bad.
>>48556051See the good sideOnce they get banned or once the internet shuts down you will have years of entertainment saved for you to enjoy
>>48556051Well, you could be wasting time on shittier media like the usual anime, ongoing manga or modern video game trash instead. Untranslated VNs is the superior medium because they are generally complete stories and you can learn more advanced Japanese while you're at it as well. Besides real books, everything else to consume is an opportunity lost on the latter case.
>>48556244>Besides real booksIronybro...
>>48556244>Besides real bookslollmao evencan get the boy out of the west, but can't get the westoid out of the ironyboy
>>48556244japanese media shitter than VNs is still better than "real books"
/vn/egros can't stop farting up this place.
>>48556244untranslated LNs, untranslated anime, untranslated manga and untranslated Japanese games are so superior to "real books" it's not even funny.
>>48556267I thought Asimov's foundatinon series was pretty good.
>>48556263The broken well trained bucks need to signal to their fellow redditors how they are totally intellectuals anywhere they go, please understand.
>>48556272Still lower than Japanese media, and some VN/LN probably does its themes better anyway.
>>48556284Hm, guess you're right. Looking at all my favourited fiction the highest ones are all JP LNs and 2 Chinese web novels.
kinda incredible how mid western fiction is if you think about it
>>48556263Don't you love how despite being a super niche medium, and the english discussion of untranslated japanese media being even more more rare, we somehow still get cancer like this on a weekly basis?
when does fsn get good?
>>48556297blame it on their cultural immaturitythey wank themselves to death to basic shit like "the hero's journey... BUT the hero dies! OMG SO SUBVERSIVE!" because not only they have never seen anything more complex, but also actively decry ityou know that meme of any sufficiently advanced tech is just magic? same concept, any sufficiently complex story is easily dismissed as "trashy slop" due to it being incomprehensible, and trust me the average viewer/reader in the west is really fucking unadvancedand it REALLY doesn't help the west greatly prefers trannylations, and dubs in particular, which are simplified abridged parodies at best, extremely poor fanfics at worst
>>48556315Haha... sorry, it doesn't.
>>48556315Was my first VN so I thought it was amazing from start to finish. Have to reread it sometime.
>>48556319Pretty interesting way to think about it. Where do you think their false sense of superiority and arrogance towards Japanese media comes from?
>>48556323yeah i did some research and indeed it was peak on launch, but nowadays it's kinda mid ngl
>>48556334Does it filter by untranslated rating?
>>48556333manchildren syndrome mixed with amerimutt superiority complexes, quite the deadly combination to any soul, assuming they have anyit's the equivalent of that one teenager that thinks they are a mature adult for playing GTA:SA and smoking without their parents knowing but on a cultural scaleor at least, that was how it was until like the mid 10s, these days it's even worse due to an aversion of appearing emotionally vulnerable due to again, what is effectively bullying people out of their hobbies on a cultural scale, resulting on a mass plague of irony armor to shield the self from criticism by saying you only like things "ironically" and are "guilty pleasures" because your REAL taste is mature cultured things like REAL BOOKS (of which they never read any)nowadays people are so deep into the irony opium addiction that they don't have personalities anymore, they have a status symbol persona they protect from societal bullying by agreeing with the consensus, they can and will suddenly turn on something they used to love and trash it until they actually start hating it just for that sweet whiff of crack known as "dopamine from being accepted by other normalgroids"this is made even worse by the fact for whatever reason the west abandoned the idea of separating the public self with your private hobbies, so they are wagies wanking mature cultured shit even in the comfort of their solitary bedrooms
>>48556374none of those were translated at launch
>>48556379something i noticed is that normies can't shit on popular things. even if they didn't like it, they will be like "yeah, it won an oscar! don't you know?"
>>48556319>>48556379Personally one of the big eye opening moments for me was oshit no ko in recent years.Seeing all the normalfags go wild with the realization their favorite celebs and ecelebs don't actually love them and it's all just staged for the performance was so fascinating.The meme is always that otaku can't differentiate fiction from reality due to drowning in escapism but that moment for me made it all come off as projecting when it took THAT for them to realize this.It really felt like a bunch of children simultaneously being told santa isn't real, what a joke.
for me it was when frieren become #1 anime everywhere, i lost all hope there
>>48556297Recently i finally finished "The Idiot" by Dostoevsky. I read half of it in Africa, and the other half here in Denmark.Let me tell you, if you ever wondered why Poccnrs are the way they are, this book explains everything. Prince Myshkin? A "hero" who stumbles around like a Poccnr tourist, clueless and causing disasters everywhere he goes. They call him an idiot, but honestly, he fits right in with the poccnr hedA.Then there’s Nastasya Filippovna, the ultimate Poccnr diva. She’s either throwing money into fires or sprinting into the arms of lunatics like it’s a national sport. And Rogozhin? Oh, just your typical Poccnr Romeo obsessed, creepy, and probably carrying a knife in his pocket just in case. Ganya? He’s like the Poccnr cousin no one invites to family gatherings because he’s always whining about how unfair life is while contributing nothing.And Dostoevsky? My man really sat down and thought, “How many pages of pure Poccnr suffering can I cram into one book?”Reading this was like watching a Poccnr soap opera, except everyone is sad, drunk, or about to die sometimes all three at once.In the end, The Idiot is less of a novel and more of a guide to Poccnr misery. If this is their idea of a "classic," then としあき is better off sticking to good, sensible German authors. At least we know how to write about life without crying into a bowl of borscht every five minutes.I r8 it 5 out of 10.WOULD NOT READ AGAIN!
>>48556437>i lost all hope thereWhy did you even have hope to lose? They'll praise whatever is acceptable in the moment and turn on it when it's no longer profitable to them. Or even if they remain loyal to it it won't be because it's a part of Japanese media, but because they think it's a "deconstruction" that initially presents itself as a "slop media" or whatever.
>>48556474i know that "popular = 100iq" but for example when looking at old mal's top 10, it was mostly nostalgiaslop like fmab (which is cringe but understandable if it was your first anime and you watched it on launch) and after that niche show that are actually goodbut then frieren came out, and it's STILL #1, with neither recency nor nostalgia bias (unlike slop like oshi no ko and bocchi or whatever) so i literally can't find a single explaination that doesn't involve normies being literal cattle with no taste
>>48556437>losing hope with the frieren anime>and not with the manga being so low effort actual literal AIslop may have been preferablethe only reason it's not gookshit tier is because the mangaka SOMETIMES actually draws objects and background NPCs instead of having everything be an unity store asset 3d model
>>48556472Dostoevsky was a proto-VN script writer though.
>>48556511are there unironically any manga worth reading for elitists like us?>>48556518wasn't g senjou basically crime and punishment?
>>48556501>slopBut only ironyweebs call any Japanese media slop.
Let's not pretend vns are better when fucking Jeweha was the undisputed vn of the year when it released
>>48556528Unless you just want to speedread it to get some examples to use in your imagination, no.Just stick to the source material, especially given you already know japanese.The manga industry has been in the shitter since the early 10s and it's only getting increasingly worse and worse now, especially after the ironygger crash that konosuba caused.
>>48556546and what about linnies?
>>48556511AI will truly will bring death to the visual medium
>>48556501>bocchiBocchi is otaku media. Don't insult it. You can't let the cattles dictate your dislike of any Japanese media.
>>48556542Never was, jeweha is and will always be shit.
>>48556557Unironically just VNs without VAs or music depending on what and where you look.Sadly due to having a lower entry it's full of ironygger trash, thankfully it's a double edged sword because you can get kino from schizos that can't make VNs, but also the trash tends to never last more than 3 volumes unless normalgroids cling to it, so sorting the chaff from the good is actually rather easy, especially if you avoid mainstream garbage like the aforementioned konosuba.
>>48556518>>48556528This makes me wonder, who's the most quoted proto otaku writer in otaku media?
>>48556565bocchit is a failed normalfag that desperately wants to be a proper normalfagwhile their love to music and performance is commendable, their normalniggery is notsomehow the blue bitch ends up being far more "otaku" than the pink attention whore schizo
we like monogatari linnies, yes?
>>48556582>it's full of ironygger trashSome examples? I wonder how VNs have been mostly avoiding this cancer and how the future countermeasures to it would look like.
>>48556591>I want to be le normalIs this not a common theme? Are you going to say K-On! isn't otaku now because the characters aren't otaku?
>>48556599nta but the main reason vinnies filter normies it's not the sus content (normies LOVE thinly veiled incest and other safe horny shit) but their length. anything above 10h is gatekept because nobody has the attention spam to read all that, and unlike serialized media where you can stay "updated" you get the whole thing all at once so it's very overwhelming for adhd zoomer
>>48556599>Some examples?Oh boy throw a stone in the room dedicated to wacky parody isekai and you will hit three series.> I wonder how VNs have been mostly avoiding this cancer Higher barrier of entry, any rando can write something on the WN sites and get lucky with a publisher, especially now that everyone is sharking the waters to chip away at kadokawa's monopoly.But a VN? That takes more effort than a normalnigger is ever willing to do.>and how the future countermeasures to it would look like.Thankfully it's largely a self-solving problem because the people that would make normalfag slop like that also tend to not have the drive to see it all the way through.LNs got breached during covid because everyone was stuck in their homes but that bubble popped by 2022, and these days the market is so cutthroat that soulless ironytrash is simply not cutting it anymore.
>>48556611The fact you have to call Bocchi what is effectively just aliexpress K-On, which in turn was just bootleg Lucky Star somehow not raise any self awareness red flags?
>>48556591i really don't want hate on bocchi but it WAS a fotm, and it's main selling point was the "she's literally me!" protagonist. not saying it's bad or not worth watching, but it slop
>>48556645>call BocchiI didn't call it K-On! but now you're getting too ironic by demeaning K-On!, hating on any sincere otaku media is a sign that the virus is attacking you.
>>48556647>slop>placing weight on western cattle opinionssee >>48556663
>>48556647I mean it is what it is.FSN may be one of those I like regardless because of nasu's particular strain of autism (and I will even double down and say I like FGO's story, even if I don't play it), but at the end of the day it was FOTM, and it was something a lot of irony monkeys clung to alongside Tsukihime.
>>48556663bocchi isn't sincere, unlike lucky star also slop but SOVL or k-ongirls band cry had way more sincere that bocchi and look! normies ignored it completely, how strange
>>48556669> FOTM>irony monkeysWhy are they informing your views of a work? Isn't it insane to form your opinions based on western cattle? How is this not the same irony virus that causes one to turn on something one sincerely loved because of external factors.
i still think that's understandable, tsukihime was also peak on release, it's not people's fault that there was nothing better out there so the standards were pretty lowbut slop like frieren outranking logh? truly baffling
@48556671>slopI'd respectfully suggest to lay down the irony, you're heading towards a very dangerous path.
>>48556671>slop but SOVLIronybro...
>>48556688meant for >>48556669
>>48556688>tsukihime was also peak on release,And it still is the exact same work. It could only become worse relative to better works being released, not because of becoming popular among a certain crowd.
>>48556565Are you the bocchi/kita spammer?Fuck you and your bocchishit shilling i watched it last month and dropped it after i realized it was watamote for zoomers and unironically made me hate zoomers even more.
>>48556671>girls band cryDidn't it literally mention "those folx" in one of the first episodes?
>>48556707>And it still is the exact same work.and it's still mid for today's standards, and it will only get worse.
>>48556437For me it was when Shitgeki no fagjin got big. I knew it was all downhill from then.
>>48556679Why are you trying to imply shit being liked by normalgroids somehow affects me? It does not, and it neither should affect you.It is simply stating a fact, nothing more.
>>48438704huh... weird how it's right...
>>48556722you mean when normies ate about anything from s4 onwards? i wasn't surprised there desu
>>48556725>It is simply stating a factBut Japanese media is superior and never slop. Slop is western content.
>>48556721Not that anon, but the original Tsukihime is still fucking great and awesome to read. I reject the "for today's standands" types of claims. Its scenario is up there with the best in the medium.
>>48556721>for today's standardsBecause we should adapt to modern American tastes, amiright fellow otakus?
>>48556731Japanese do make slop>>48548777
>>48556725>Why are you trying to imply shit being liked by normalgroids somehow affects me? It does not, and it neither should affect you.nobody is saying that "normies like x therefore it's slop". it's more "x is slop so normies will eat it up">>48556731>Slop is western content.no, slop is anything soulless and not kino. japan creates tons of slop, look at seasonal anime
>>48556743>Japanese do make sloIronybro...
>>48556745>japan creates tons of slopIs it ironyweeb raid hour yet?
It's the same, am I right fellow otakus?>slop>slop, Japan
>>48556737>but the original Tsukihime is still fucking great and awesome to read.You can't say that! You have to realize it's slop but that you only like it because of nostalgia. That's a mature and smart reason to like a work.
>>48556742it's not about america, it's about the evolution of human culture. look at >>48556688afaik none of those were translated for a while, and the previous "best" localized game was SNATCHER from 10 years ago. and then tsukihime drops and of course it becomes fucking peak. same goes for stuff like yu-no (top 5 on egs i think), ever17 (top 5 on bangumi), fsn, etc... all those were unironic peaks at launchbut in 2025? there are dozens of vinnies who are at least twice better than tsukihime. not saying it's not worth reading, but saying that it's still peak post s;g/umineko/wa2/subahibi/etc (regardless of personal tastes) is just cope
>>48556776>evolutionWestoid concept.>vinniesWestoid buzzword.
>peaks>slop>kino>cope>vinniesAre we getting raided again?
>>48556751NTA but some anime are completely anti-otaku and made for ironic weebs
>>48556776the most eop post itt
what a horrible thread
>>48556776>s;g/umineko/wa2/subahibi>and these are the people calling something "slop"lollmao evenkek, if you will
>>48556782f/a/g is leaking
>>48556784They lose their anime status if they become anti-otaku.
Now I really believe that any hatred of Japanese media celebrated by otaku is just veiled ironyweebery.
>>48556791all pre-2012 (aka pre-aot), cope harder nostalgiacuck
>>48556810>s;g/umineko/wa2/subahibi*sensible chuckle.jpeg*
>>48556776
>>48556815>>48556812>>48556791concession accepted
>>48556790report them, maybe try the contact us to alert someone about how shit the thread is, something will eventually work
>>48556776Finally an intelligent reader who sees through the otaku pandering and challenges his mind with dark and new concepts. I applaud you, kind stranger.
>>48556731I never said I disagree with that statement.I do agree with it.>>48556745That was not what I said, dumb monkey.I said it's FOTM, nothing more.
>>48556840are we getting raided again?
>>48556848>I do agree with it.Sorry. I was just getting heated because of people calling core otaku media slop.
>>48556849>80 posts in half an hourWhat do you think?
>>48556805Unironically this. If you're not willing to die defending anything pro otaku against attacks by westerners then you're just another ironybro.
>i lost all hope there>>48448175apply this to any otaku medium.
thoughts?
>>48556805>is just veiledi was going to make a quip over >thinlybut you didn't even say that at all
>>48556797this annoying kind of definition shifting is sadly something westoids specialize in, like how the definition of "woke" is intentionally kept as vague as humanly possiblewhile i agree with your sentiment, i would rather still call them anime for better and for worsei simply call them trash for race traitors instead
>>48557042>i would rather still call them anime for better and for worseYeah I was being needlessly hyperbolic, it's still anime at the very least because of the artistic value. But that shouldn't give us license to call Japanese media with words reserved only for westoid content.
I am reading 桜の詩, after 5 hours I am sick of 圭
>>48557163but why tho, that's part of it's charm
>>48556511>eop screenshotEpic.
>>48547874
>>48557255But anon... screens aren't 本
>>48557278
>>48557317Japanes is such a cute language.
haha yeah that totally happens to me
>>48557626>Could read it and understand it almost perfectly.>Except for the のって which I have no fucking idea what it means.AIEEEEEEEE
>のってanon....
AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>48557635stop using anki
>>48557635Back to the discord with you.
>>48557635Haruki would scold you for this post.
>>48557255>>48557317Can I play it just for her?
>>48556501>>48556647>>48556688>>48556721>>48556776>>48556711>I base my opinions on "normies" (sic) and not the otaku values of the worksWoah, ironyweebs?
Why are you replaying to a 14 month old post?
>>48557712AIEEEE NOOOO ANYTHING BUT PISSCORD 名無し様
>>48557635>>48557648>>48557946>AIEEEEEEEEHello?
Gotta love how these raiders can never fit in and their language gives them away
>>48558060no idea why is it so consistent eitheris it unironically some kind of mind cancer fuckery or something?
What are you currently reading?
>>48558242still Celenaria, hit a bit of a slump since the plot meanders around without a very clear sense of direction, but it captures the 冒険 spirit very well.
>>48558242natsukumo still, haven't had much time for eroge lately
>>48558242I finally got around to reading oretsuba.Nobody told me that it's actually a cringe comedy about the most autistic man in the world failing to hold basic conversations.
>>48558242I needed a gyaru bitch
>>48558324I miss pakopakosoft.I know they're back from the dead but their new games are bad so they're still dead to me.
>>48558242The new doujin game by the ryuusei world actor/koichoco artist. For their first game it's really impressive.
>>48557817Play it for HER
>>48548208Sayooshi but worse
>>48558509Cute.
>>48558242Finished Vizal Diary, It's a good vn. The game starts a bit slow because it's just an info dump about the world, the h-scene where you unlock it after reading certain parts of the game, and sol scenes about the protagonist living in his beloved city. After that, the game turned into chuuniutsuge
https://purgatory-blue.tokyo/Lamunation/Dohna Dohna composer is debuting as a scenario writer
How difficult is Dies Irae to read? Will I ruin the experience if I read it with inadequate comprehension, or is it one of those media you can return to many times and gain something new?
>>48559689>or is it one of those media you can return to many times and gain something new?I'd argue for this, but there's nothing like the first read through. Everything is so mysterious, you have no idea where people stand or where things are going.
>>48559689>is it one of those media you can return to many times and gain something new?In a way, re-reading dies irae over and over and over and over is the most accurate way to read dies irae.
