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>>48562943

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhh
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
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soon
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What do I need to provide to my farmers at meadow for maximum efficiency? Do I have to feed them? How can i do so quickly and easily if so?
Do they need beds?
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>>48579600
>So, to recruit and add Farris to your party you just need to get to the second floor of Nymelle? Without ever defeating any enemy inside there?
You can just run straight to her and potentially recruit her day 1 (or 2, whatever the travel time is), yes. She's much more self-sufficient than Poppy so I've never seen her die before being found on any characters.
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>>48580584
comfortable, high-quality beds
and maybe a smooch
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>>48580797
>Zertiass the mermaid Age 43 Male
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>>48580691
i think poopy and farris are literally immortal until you talk to them
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If I want to use a sniper rifle in Elona+ should I roll a gunner for barrage or a farmer for the extra decapitation chance?
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I wish Noa stole better songs
There are a lot of Elona+ songs I miss
Actually, now that I'm listening to them, I'd say 90% of Elona+ songs are so much fucking better than Elin
FUCK I MISS THIS SONG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfUn2rjPm2c
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>>48580803
Any advice on how to procure many comfortable beds?
Also, is the smooch thing a joke or an actual mechanic?
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>>48580813
Poppy can definitely die, I've had to redo puppy cave on two characters and even fully mined out 2f on one of them.
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>>48580823
How it plays in-game really grates my ears
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>>48580853
Works on my machine
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>>48580834
bunk beds hold 8, have good comfort, and are cheap as shit. palmia & mysilia both have at least 4 each. remember that you can exchange influence for furniture tickets.
i believe affinity also improves job efficiency, so get smooching
it sounds like you're trying to raise fertility, so what you really want are gold bars. 20k a month in extra taxes will earn you 20 gold bars a month. use that to expand your land OR invest in the soil skill, whichever's cheaper.
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>3 threads deleted within a few hours
I give uppp
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how mandatory is black cat really, is licking that good?
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>>48580893
Remember to always keep your Janitors plugged in.
No video game discussion will be allowed on /v/!
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>>48580903
Assuming the lick factor is always the last one that isn't material related, I've probably only had useful licks on ranged weapons plus one +7? fire resist on an armor piece
It's a straight upgrade to gear drops, but in practice I don't think I got much meaningful out of it.
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>>48580903
Black cat is a good hexxer too
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I was told I can craft cobwebs with different piece types, but I have yet to find the recipe. What level is it?
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>>48580934
>he has no job
>he has no friends
>there's some posts on /v/ he's gotta cleanse
>he can cook hotpockets
>when he needs to
>at 300 pounds he's a big guy for you
>he does it for free
>receives no pay
>takes it very seriously anyway

(okay, back to setting up my rice field, I wanna see how much sake sells for)
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>>48580903
>dim, fear, confuse
>fast
>FREE enchants
yes it's good
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>>48581020
>dim
I dont remember him giving dim
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>>48581024
I guess both my pets are causing dim through shield bashes?
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>>48581020
>fast
170 speed isn't really all that fast
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>0 HP
>Oath of eternity consumes a chunk of your stamina up to 2 times (at max. stamina) to protect you from death
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>>48580859
Thanks! Did not know about influence for furniture tickets. Got a bunch of bunk beds and started chatting up my farmers and production improved immediately.

Also, how do you smooch them?
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>>48581249
we'll tell you about it when you're older anon
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>>48581235
It's a nice idea but autocombat already provides the same protection for 20% stamina. There aren't that many things you can die to outside combat without being negative stamina.
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Does passing time makes you hungry? How can I advance time early game without getting hungry? Working at night even on my Meadow feels bad because a Boar can just rush me and almost kill me.
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>>48581359
eating gives stats
go on a berry/nut picking spree anon
enter adjacent tiles to your meadow
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>>48581387
By the way, why is the field of view of the player character so low even on day while carrying a torch? It feels like I'm playing a nearsighted dude considering how my little girl sometimes just runs off to fight with something I don't even see.
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>>48581359
Dying while hungry resets your hunger, and there's no penalty for death the first 90 days
Ideally you do what the other anon said and eat for stats, but if you have something else to do and no worthwhile food you can get away with ignoring it early on if needed
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Is there any penalty for going into a changing room and staying naked?
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how many flowers per beehive (FpB) do i need for maximum honey production? using blue flowers, idk if it matters. my beehives dont always produce honey at the same rate and i want to mitigate that. currently running 4.14 FpB and pic related is what my production looks like.

realistically
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how do i milk myself
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>>48581442
depends on your gender
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So, is every god a fucking retard? Did not a single one explained to Kumiromi how humans actually work?
Besides the fact that he was practically responsible for killing all life in one era, that's one additional reason for why I hate Mani the most and can't wait to kill him.
Yes, I'm seething he's a "normal" human while we are weird mushroom freaks.
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>>48581424
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Bee_hive
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>>48581446
how do i milk my tits
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>>48580539
>elin released
Holy shit I've been out of the loop, is it good?
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>>48581515
n-no...
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>>48581515
i have 350 hours, its shit
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>>48581515
It's Elona but rotated 45 degrees and you use the mouse instead
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>>48581515
It's ok
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>>48581538
>>48581515
Rotated 26.57º actually
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>>48581515
sprites are ass
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>>48581515
It's still unfinished, both main quests only go through to the first boss. There's a continuous stream of small changes and additions though, and it's way easier to mod.
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bleed immunity but at what cost
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Does anyone know what a Putit Charm does?
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Where can you get more gallows? How many furniture tickets?
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>>48581856
you get free gallows if you encounter fanatics in the overworld
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>bunch of roof options
>none match any of the common wall options
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>>48581700
its cute so I put it in my shop
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It's bullshit how mercenaries can just spawn in the meadow even with hearthstone level 1.
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>>48582274
>murders all your livestock
>and then you
I was going to ask what is their fucking problem, but I realized they simply doing what we are all doing. Wandering the world, grinding XP and killing everything along the way.
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I give up, this game simply isn't for me.
This time a kamikaze yeek spawned in my hearthstone level 1 meadow (because I activated growth supression) and just exploded on me while I was cutting down a tree.
And I even made an effort to lit up my meadow with multiple torches and bonfires just to reduce enemy spawn rate too...
There should be an option to automatically make your dude STOP doing whatever the hell he's doing when an enemy is detected.
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>>48582490
You can right-click to stop whatever you were doing for actions like mining and woodcutting.

There is an option to automatically stop moving if you detect an enemy, but maybe a similar option could be added in the future as an experimental feature option e.g. something that pops up on enemy detection asking you whether you want to continue your action or not. I almost feel like this was an Elona thing, though it could very well have been an Elona+ thing.
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>>48582490
>There should be an option to-
You guys always say shit like this without actually checking options and then someone comes around to spoon feed you
enable advanced settings
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would be hilarious if noa implement an intruder alarm system
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There should be an option to use keyboard controls
The same Elona had
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>>48582548
>Implying I haven't already done it
Shut up you fucking moron.
There's only stop moving upon spotting an enemy and stop moving upon spotting a trap, but nothing that cancels whatever the fuck you are doing when an enemy is detected.
And auto-battle options don't work because you aren't battling in first place.
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>>48582556
What, full keyboard control? Or you mean being able to move around with wasd and diagonal as well? I actually changed the keybindings for my game so that I can move around with 'wasd' style movement, with q being up-left, e being up-right, z being down-left and c being down-right. I left the Pause keybind as space.

I mostly use automated mouse movement only for pathing via the minimap, since you can click a spot on the minimap and it'll automatically move your character towards that spot. Useful for relatively safe places like towns and your lands
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>>48582593
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Controls
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How do I make clay in winter? My pond is frozen
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>>48582604
build board lets you make snowless areas, which also let you make iceless areas also just buy cure minor wound potions from a healer
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>>48582513
Maybe Noa should implement a Safe mode toggle like in CDDA
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>>48582604
you can use bone powder instead of water
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>>48582604
What does a pond have to do with making clay? I thought you could only do that with a millstone.
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>>48582673
the recipe looks like dirt and water
>>48582632
>>48582616
thanks
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>>48582707
you can also just build a house with the pond inside and it will melt
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>>48582715
can you build a roof with no walls in this game? Like a patio or gazebo?
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Is there any benefit to having a pet learn Riding / Symbiosis?
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>>48582728
You can, you just make a normal room but then via the House Board/Plate when you pick Edit Appearance, set it to 'Atrium'
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What brain cell do I give my secretary if I want her to heal and debuff?
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This is the most retarded texture replacement I have
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oops, I dropped my cleaned copy of a watermarked portrait oh no
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>>48582832
and another one
tee hee, clumsy me
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CAN PETS STOP FUCKING EATING VOMIT FOR FUCKS SAKE
JUST WAIT
LET ME FUCKING DUMP SHIT, I WILL COOK AFTERWARDS YOU SUBHUMANS
holy fuck
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Is there a way to reset the nymelle quest? I unlocked the lid earlier but now it's back and i can't unlock it anymore
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>>48582992
If there's no way to fix this I'll probably just stop playing and maybe come back to it in a few months. I'm 200+ days in an I really cbf starting over.
Maybe it's possible to console spawn Farris in the dungeon and she'll make the corridor unlockable again?
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>>48583023
post your quest log screenshot
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>>48583037
Is this it? I can't see Farris at my base anywhere and she's not in the resident/guest lists.
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>>48583065
did you check the quest board
and she probably died so you should revive her via bartender or something
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>>48583080
nothing on the quest board. I think the quest is just broken. Soon after unlocking the corridor in nymelle the screen wouldn't scroll anymore and I had to close the game. This has re-locked the corridor and stopped Farris from spawning in nymelle or at my base.
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>>48583125
turn off your mods if any
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>>48582742
I remember looking at the code a while back, and I'm pretty sure that stuff only checks the player's skills.
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>>48583138
I didn't have any mods. I think I figured out how to fix the quest.
Are there any consequences to using 'cheat' ?
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Is there a way to scroll and see what other objects are on a pile or anything? Like when flags or wall mounted objects are getting in the way.
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>>48584564
Not that I could figure out. For stealing purposes, zap it with a teleport rod
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>>48584564
It's vanilla functionality, but somehow noa hasn't fixed it even after being reported ages ago. Anyway, there's a hotfix mod in the workshop
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3372158299
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do i get a new years letter with a snowputit sent to me irl , noa?
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Sup /jp/bros, how to develop land for main mission and Loytel's mission? So far, I haven't set up stuffs, aside from just crafting stations with few recipes (even if I only buy goddess' dakimakura from casino) and 5x5 farm (manual) in Meadow, haven't unlocked generators, etc.
I also need to be able to sell stolen goods for Thieves' Guild but I can't seem to sell it directly to vendors?
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>>48585083
Sell it to the vendor at the thieves guild
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>>48585151
Uhh they still won't accept it; the southwest doesn't even have the option to see what her merch btw
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>>48585171
That's the black market vendor, you can't use it fur a few ranks yet
The other one, not the black market vendor. They're in the same room.
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What level do I need to be for the dual Golem fight in Nymelle? I'm get getting absolutely crushed.
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should I invest in a blacksmith for gear?
I feel like I don't find much in dungeons
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>>48585239
when in doubt, throw potions of blind/confusion
>>48585275
probably the black market npcs, also challenge other adventurers for gears
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>>48585239
It depends, for example if you worship mani you can turn the golems and it makes the fight much easier. Also, if you have rods of silence/potions of silence to use against the mage it can help. If you have kumiromi fairy hosted, the tentacles can almost solo the fight.
If you have the frost arrow spell you can manage it in an easier way by breaking the enemy equipment.
I'd say try to get at least 60 effective hp, and get some potions/scrolls ready (potions to throw at them to paralyze/silence/blind/confuse and some to heal yourself), as if you're underleveled or don't have good companions you can't really unga bunga that fight easily. Also sometimes the boss will summon ice bits which are frankly quite annoying.

TL,DR: Hoard some consumibles and get around 60 hp if you can and go all out. You can also use the stairs to go back to heal if you want.
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>>48585200
Wait, lemme get into that town first
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>>48585239
Teach yourself/get the rod of weakness, stock some bandages/potions (good and bad effect), train your main weapon/armor
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>>48585171
Any of the vendors at the Thieves' Guild works, including the normal General Shopkeeper and the Deputy Leader. In fact, you're supposed to sell to them first because the Black Market Vendor for the Thieves' Guild doesn't unlock until you hit Rank 5 (current build max rank for all guilds)
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>get potion addiction in my sleep
>wake up
>drink hormone potion
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>>48585200
>>48585327
Yo what in the fuck, I swear I couldn't sell those stuffs before but now I can. Thanks for the pointer anons
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whats a good way to mass produce bait?
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>>48585607
start arguing about what is and isn't cheating in the /v/ thread.
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>>48585607
Saying the word 'Action Economy'
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>>48585607
hammer fertilizer
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Say Noa wants to implement a new Ether Disease, where your entire body is electrified to the point where you naturally produce 10W power (allowing you to carry a functional fridge on you), and if using Martial Arts or Throwing, causes Lightning damage when you attack. And because you produce electricity, you're naturally resistant to Lightning damage. You also glow like as if you always have a lantern on you (sight:4) What would be an appropriate negative to this seemingly amazing Ether Disease?

The inability to equip weapons, armours and accessories with a Metal material base? Hosting or riding a pet causes constant Lightning to them? Stealth skill is negated because you glow like a bright lightbulb all the time? Anyone sleeping with you would get electrocuted to death and thus your pets and NPCs will always refuse to sleep with you, regardless of how much they like you and whether they're drunk or not, and if you try to rap- I mean, Sleep Larva someone, it instantly kills them after the act?
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>>48585607
just loot bones in dungeons
fishing isn't that good anyway unless you are going for the .01% chance of a luck or harvest statue while afk
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>>48585876
Make it so that electric charge is your lifeforce. Getting hit by lightning attacks heals you, but getting hit by metal weapons or martial attacks from metallic NPCs deals extra damage because some of the charge is drained away. Standing on a metal floor without boots instakills you, but wearing boots made of insulating materials mitigates the damage.
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>>48585876
>produce electricity
>>>naturally resistant to lightning damage
You explode when you take fire damage (decreased fire resistance, by a lot).
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>>48585876
Add a hidden heat counter that increases when you spend time under sunlight, and decreases when you are inside a building or any place without sunlight.
When the counter reaches max. your HP gets down as if you were badly poisoned
Inspiration: American power grid lines setting themselves on fire.
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>>48585876
fully implement bladder mechanics but only active with this ether disease
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Anon... just because something produces electricity doesn't means it's resistant to electricity.
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why is there ice but no water spell
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>>48586224
Elona+ invented water spells and Noa is too proud to copy anything from Elona+.
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>>48586224
>wants another method to 100% guarante something will get Wet with a single action
Water element would be so fucking broken
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>>48586179
While I did mention being resistant to Lightning, I was thinking more of the Ether Disease acting more like converting them into a self-recharging living battery of a sort where by default it causes them to produce 10W of power, but this can either be 'drained' due to external factors (being wet making it discharge electricity around you like a Lightning Ball once in a while, making being around you dangerous during rain, especially Heavy Rain? Being on Soil or Grass floors while barefoot 'earths' you, negating all effects from the Ether Disease while metallic floors conduct it, causing said Lightning Ball effect but more powerful and disables 'power generation' for x turns?), or increased (getting hit by lightning attacks), maybe up to 20W as an 'overcharged' state which also acts as a modifier for all bonus and negatives of the Ether Disease. But while in the 'overcharged' state, if you keep getting hit by Lightning attacks, eventually you overload and take immense amounts of damage while unleashing a big explosion where the damage taken can be reduced by Magic Capacity (skill only; Bonded With Mana does not apply because it isn't actual magic backlash).
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How much HP do you need to survive a Kamikaze Yeek assuming you have 0 PV?
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Trying to play on oath of eternity those past few days.
And when not using any of the more powerful races (e.g. Wraith, Succubus) you have to be really cruel at the start.
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Does Memorization do anything on a pet? I got a skillbook for it and I'm wondering whether I should just teach it to somebody or sell it off.
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>>48585439
UPDATE: I could sell the basket (picrel, bseide the scorpion statue), but not the mica gloves. Why is this happening?
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>>48587061
it's worthless and they don't want your garbage
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>>48582832
>>48582838
You know the images are glazed to mess with model training and not to prevent img2img shit right?
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>>48587061
Vendor NPCs, even normal ones, will not take anything worth 0 orens. You might as well either litter (drop it in a map tile somewhere and forget it exists), or drop it into a Trash Can/Bin. Or even better, use it as a weapon by throwing it at an enemy to at least give it some value (though it'll still be worse than throwing a proper Throwing weapon).

Even then I don't think it has enough 'value' to even give you 1 Ecopo Point for the trouble, but since Trash Bins (not to be confused with Trash Cans) are so light, I always carry one with me anyway so I just throw things I really don't need into it.
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>>48586242
Nah, 50% of Elona+ shit is fucked and the genuinely good ideas are approached from the context of it being a mod, so also shit if taken verbatim.

>>48586246
Water element was retardedly broken and is still the main go-to even after ano nerfed it multiple times, with massive utility while dealing PVDV damage. Provocaexile is a meme for a reason.
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>>48587206
>>48587084
Sad. But alright anons, thanks for clear things up.
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I love huge breasted brats so much
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>>48587732
Gwen is no brat, Gaki though literally is.
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>>48587101
Yeah and they don't realize you can just un-glaze it and throw it in the training data anyway at a lower weight. All glazing does is just make the image look like shit for the average viewer.

So kinda like video game DRM.
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>>48588058
>Yeah and they don't realize you can just un-glaze it and throw it in the training data anyway at a lower weight.
model trainers aren't manually sorting through images
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>>48587850
I dont have a nice portrait for her, just that one on the workshop
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How do you use genes? I got a putit gene, but I've only just started the game so I have no idea what the fuck.
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so what resistances are important
I seem to mostly struggle with physical damage and spiral kings
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>>48588205
genes are a super lategame way of giving new spells and feats to pets at the cost of their feat points you can see on the growth menu by trading them
you need a gene machine from the tinker camp and a generator (just take the one from the truce ground) to insert them
if you get a gene without any orange or blue text you can just get rid of it I think
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>>48588287
fire, sound and nether. spiral kings spam sound, yith have nether touch and everything spams fire.
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is a fire hound any good as a steed
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>>48588965
do you like burning all the loot
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>>48588169
I slopped one in that other anime style before I settled on the pencil style like the gwen.
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No harm in just taking the first god I can worship is there
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>>48589003
what about grizzly bear but it costs 3x as much
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>>48588788
2 fire 9 nether 7 sound and nerve and spiral kings shit down my neck while fire damage is not a problem at all
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>>48581315
>It's a nice idea but autocombat already provides the same protection for 20% stamina.
Nani?
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>>48589109
Not really, you can switch later. The punishment is inconvenient but not really a big deal
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How do I ride a creature? I've got 1 riding
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>>48580823
what do you mean "steal"?
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>>48589445
>blow all ur cash on a bear
>turns into a pony
What the fuck? NO. Really? My grizzly bear that's 4x as big as me shrinks and turns into a horse!? This will not suffice. Wtf man. Just put the dude on top of the big grizzly bear sprite c'mon. this is gay as fuck. So disappointing.
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>>48589405
you've never been to 0 hp before?
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>>48589576
you want a sprite for every creature in the game make it yourself
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>>48589616
what do you mean the sprites are already there
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the enemy sprite only has one variation so unless you want the bear to always look down regardless of where you are facing you gotta add it yourself
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>>48589696
that's way better than riding a little pony looking thing. I would have done that.
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>>48589454
People still struggle to comprehend what a free sound library is.
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speaking of sprites, when is noa implementing these?
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>>48587732
I've only started delving into Stable Diffusion stuff via ComfyUI, so for now I'm still working on getting text2img generation down. Going off my inexperience, I'm guessing you're generating those based off a combination of upscaling the original oppai Gwen sprite, running it through img2img, then text2img to assist with getting it to look closer to what you're looking for while running it through a bunch of model checkpoints until you get the final result? With maybe a LoRAs or Lycoris included, though if it's being done off an Illustrious model, I feel like they're not really required based on my few samplings so far.
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>>48589606
Not from autofighting
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>>48589803
the green energy or the one above them
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>>48587732
kys
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>>48590059
stay mad
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>>48589975
the above
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>>48590059
First time listening to the prattling of partialism posters?
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where do you get a brush?
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What are your expectations for this year? I think we will get the Melee update Dec 31 of 2025 or it'll be postponed indefinitely
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die
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Am I getting unlucky with my eggs rotting or can you not hatch gnomes or goblins? I was hoping to get some domesticated little guys, but it's not looking like it's going to happen.
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>>48590744
Eggs will hatch despite rotting
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>>48589847
it's just novelai t2i with vibe transfer lmao
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>>48586969
no
you can give it to a member of your town and maybe whip them to job/hobby history and produce ancient books, but it's pretty easy to get otherwise
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>>48590851
Oh, is that so? The only things I've used so far are A1111 (which turned out to be resource heavy) and ComfyUI to do stuff locally, so I've never used any of the on-site generation websites like NovelAI. I suppose with good generally trained AI, all you really need for something like that is to know the name of the artist who draws like that to make the AI home in on making stuff in a similar way. I've been making random stuff so far without referring to any artists at all. What's a vibe transfer though?
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>>48589576
if you get a hitching post you can change its appearance, but that's also limited. iirc there's a 2nd horse design, putit, magic carpet, green haired younger sister, and a wyvern
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>>48591619
>spell to turn anything into a broom
>a class dedicated to riding brooms
>no broom option at the hitching post
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>>48591635
I imagine it will come with the alchemy update.
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>>48591635
abracadabra your balls are now inside out
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>>48591635
and here's another one fuck you
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>>48591596
>What's a vibe transfer though?
You give a reference image and the AI tries to match it in some way or another. Anon tweaked settings and found a setup that made that style. This is in addition to artist tags. I believe the local equivalent is called IPAdapter but I don't know how either actually work or if they're related. I'll post an example of noVibe vs Vibe later.
btw reForge has a111 interface with comfy performance, but a lot of bloat features
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>>48589971
Go to settings and turn off everything that interrupts autofighting and allow switching targets and chasing.
It also gives death protection to your pets, though you need to heal them after it triggers so that they have at least 20% health before you autofight again. Shit's busted.
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How do I upgrade king's bed?
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>>48592147
I feel like that was the very reason why the Strategy skill existed to offset the (removed some EA versions ago) damage penalty for using Autobattle in the first place, so that if you wanted to just right-click something and let the game do the fighting for you while also preventing them from being killed because you didn't want to spend your own time whittling down enemies. I personally don't use Autobattle at all, even if the enemy is a damage sponge
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Does the black cat not lick items if you are hosting it?
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does anything even do ether damage
this is a huge amount of resist on one item though
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>>48593274
will o wisps and shining hedgehogs but i think it slows ether disease too.
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>>48592680
it's taken literal minutes for right click to kill a boss gagu before. that's just self inflicted rsi
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If that one anon that wanted to be able to see the stats given by milk to babies is still around, here you go:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3397427592
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>>48593304
god I hate boss gagu
not because they're dangerous, but because I have to mine out fortune bell again to craft more ammo afterwards
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>>48593392
Nice!
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You know what they say about a yeek with big ears.
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How do I change an altar to another god?
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>>48593575
if you are worshiping a different god than the altar, just offering anything that your current god accept
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>>48593595
thanks!
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>>48592646
bump
someone please help
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>>48593601
Keep in mind it has to be worth a good amount of piety to convert the altar or you'll take a punishment from the god that owns it.
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>>48593622
Sorry I thought I answered that earlier, my bad
Get the wrenches from the snowy workshop
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>>48593601
the higher the weight of the item the more likely it is to work
it sort of seems like each altar has a random threshold of how much weight it takes to convert it between 1-8
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>>48580823
I love that song.
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>>48593628
>>48593639
I managed to convert it in a few turns with some bread, thank you guys
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what's the name of lulwy's book when it's unidentified?
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>>48593699
it's random per save, just like color and names of scrolls
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Wraith fox
Golem fox
Demigod fox
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>Kurogami updates blog with generic AI generated slop portrait
disappointing
why did he give up his old art style anyway
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I'm on year 3. I have had orange trees, mushrooms, palulu for years with fruit sitting on them, delegated farming on, both a lumberjack and farming sign, a fridge that is shared with high priority and advanced distribution for fruit/shrooms with auto dump set to distribution settings. I haven't gotten anything. I seriously don't get the distribution settings and automation in this game. I can manually harvest them and it auto dumps to the right place but I never have it actually had fruit or mushrooms farmed automatically and put in a container.
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>>48593741
shared storage has to be turned on
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Is there a way to prevent aoe damage from shadows? I have an executioner that i recruited but they summon shadows and they suicide bomb and hurt the fuck out of my party. My sound resist is high enough that it doesn't affect me but doesn't seem like others do
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>>48593741
things don't harvest until they hit withering, too
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>>48593741
If I see stuff that's ready to be harvested, I harvest it.
You waste time and money by not harvesting yourself. It's good if you are away for months in nefias or exploring.
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>>48590155
it's pervasive
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Verna is too friggen busted
I just realized why all of her balls trigger 3 times, it's because of her stupid feats
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>>48594038
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>lockpicks not craftable
Fuck. What's the winning strategy with lockpicking?? Pour all your coins into LP before ever attempting to pick a lock?
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>>48594120
practice chest doesn't spend lockpicks. use them for everything (if you can find them in stores or craft them) & your lockpicking will go up soon enough.
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For all the Klutzes
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3396695393
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>>48594134
Gamble Chests also don't use lockpicks, or if it does, only require 1 lockpick (else buying a stacks of 15+ Gamble Chests at a time would destroy anyone's stock of lockpicks), but also trains lockpicking. You even get a chance to make your money back, and more!
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>>48594322
yes but gambling is immoral anonymous
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is there a better meat? also has anyone been able to get high quality meat from resident jobs?
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>>48594330
Asura
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>>48594134
>level 30 lockpicking
>get dogshit exp from practice chests
>still can't open a chest I found
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Practice chests scale to your lockpick level
so you get more exp the higher level you are
I put on my +80 lockpick gear and I get almost 70 exp per unlock
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Emergency mandrake reaping is very good
the paralysis scaling...*chef's kiss*
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>>48594481
I LIED I AM BARELY SURVIVING THIS
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>>48594300
Nice. That only affects tents belonging to you, right? I don't want the big tent in the tinker's camp to end up in my inventory.
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>>48594500
Mission failed.
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>>48594330
Anon gets 22 STR Potency meat from his dragon or drake citizens. >>>/v/698814058
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>>48594526
Inb4 Noarfhammer
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Do all caves/dungeons have an "end" with a boss/victory jingle/fancy chest? I feel like I've hit a few where there's nothing interesting on the final floor and I see no way down. Do I just need to start digging at walls?
I found a Big Daddy in the one I'm currently in and there's no way in hell I can fight him. At first I thought he was hostile because the second I tried to move once walked downstairs he'd eviscerate me, but then I realized he was attacking the monsters near him and I was getting killed as collateral damage.
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>>48594586
Elin is an unfinished game, understand please,
Go play Elona or Elona+ for something more complete
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Happy New Yeek, /jp/
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>>48594586
All random nefia have a last boss, yes. Floors are generated such that stairs should be reachable without digging, but it might bug out sometimes. You can cheat with magic map or detector to find stairs faster.
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>>48594608
I came in expecting rough edges and I'm fine with them, I just want to know the bounds so I don't waste time seeing if I'm doing something wrong or it's the game.
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>>48594639
I keep seeing the word Nefia but I don't know what that means. Is that just in-game parlance for Dungeon? Or do those get unlocked once I progress the story or something?
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>>48594650
>Or do those get unlocked once I progress the story or something?
Yes.
Thing is there is not much story to progress yet.
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>>48594650
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Nefia
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>>48594654
>>48594661
>If you eave the level (including tent) before defeating the boss, it is treated as a failure of conquest, and the boss of the lowest level will despawn.
Maybe what happened was the boss was on the same level as the Big Daddy, and when I got absolutely wecked in his enraged crossfire the first time the boss despawned.
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>>48594678
yes
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>>48594678
it only happens when you leave the lowest level i think?
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>>48594654
>game gets patched
>smash the story with my 200 str character in 2 minutes
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>>48594702
Yeah?
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i regret my race/class choice but i'm so far in... what to do............
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>>48594710
there is a mod that lets you spend feat points on feats for other races and classes
or just reroll if you made a fairy or something
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>>48594710
non-executioner fairy?
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>>48594710
open the console and change it
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Is there anywhere to just buy tools? My shitty pickaxe can't mine shit and I can't seem to find any materials to craft a better one.
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>>48594841
no, look for basalt rocks in random tiles as a starting point
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>>48594841
buy old lanterns and smash them to get topaz ore
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How to make my spells fizzle less?
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>>48594955
git gud
wear less armor
gain more symbiote skill if you have a parasite
practice casting
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ezmonies
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man eater is done with some alts on the album
catbox.moe/c/oxci6o
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babe, what's wrong? you've barely touched your weed stew.
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Pet the dog
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How does the corgon livestock strategy work? Also if i have 24 cooking, what recipe should i focus on to level my cooking skill? And whats a good magic recipe?
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Any tips for getting contribution to the thieve's guild? Where can you steal lots of high value stuff other than the thieve's guild vault?
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>>48595361
In their own base
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>>48595109
I really like the Alraune but oppaimaxxing a lot of them feels forced.
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Music.

Each song has its own hidden experience that levels as you make mistakes (and when you finish performance), and each musical instrument has own song.
I don't think there is a way for an instrument to have multiple songs. Violing and panty share songs.
Low experience in song causes you to make mistakes, reducing overall score. 10 mistakes cancels the performance. Mistakes are more likely as the performance progresses.
NPCs like or hate your performance depending on their level and your skill (plus a bit on you being a pianist class), not on song level or anything else.
NPCs react in a 4-tile radius. NPC that reacted to the performance won't react again. If the NPC reacts positively, he may throw gold at you.
For NPC to react positively, your random roll must exceed his random roll. Your roll is a random number between 1 and (your Music skill + 5). NPC's roll is a random number between 1 and (his level * 5).
Gold you get from an NPC depends on the level of the NPC (roughly a random number between 1 and twice the NPC's level, pianists get 10% more gold). Player owned zones give 5 times fewer gold. Unique NPCs give 2x. Outside of music zones, rewards above 25 are severely reduced.
Stuff you can get randomly is ecopo, gacha_coin, plat, tomato, casino_coin. The chance is 1%. You don'
t get this stuff in own zones. (contradicts my experience - i think i got gold bars thrown at me sometimes, but maybe those were quest rewards)
Music skill experience is given when you get gold, and it does not matter how much gold you get. You get 5 times fewer XP in own zones.
Stamina loss is actually random but it happens so often that it looks like it's not.
Charisma is not used in any calculations.
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I don't know why you posted that, but Charisma not factoring in at all is disappointing.
Happy New Years!
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Charisma should factor in how much money they throw at you just like with the recent bird watching change
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Also I found no indication of instruments providing bonuses to the performance (even though mics and drums state in description that they do).
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>>48595726
anecdotally i've found that the harpiscord fucking sucks in party quests
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>>48595752
It's due to you having no experience in harpsichord's song.
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>>48595726
ive trained hundreds of hours in singing for nothing...
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>'spot enemy weakness' is the enchantment that increases eye of mind
>not the 'increases your critical' one
what the fuck
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>>48595571
Interesting. I always assumed people hating your song would cause it to be interrupted (even beyond getting your brain splattered all over the fancy carpet by a piece of high-velocity granite).
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>>48595726
Maybe it's a skill boost that does nothing because you don't actually equip ranged weapons?
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>>48595810
What is it about this game that makes ranged weapons this weird ephemeral medium ground? Was it like this in Elona? I barely played it so I can't recall.
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>meta question
What is the proc rate for dominate hostile machine, is it useful or would the divine feat that give free healing be more useful for little girl ally
I am cycling through little girl ally by Famia and I am trying to minmax her stats. I cannot see her character profile like my own as well. Can someone help?
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>>48595816
Elona has "Shoot" and "Ammo" slots specifically for ranged weapons.
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>>48595843
You need a stethoscope, which you can buy later from Farris
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>>48595374
im talking about stuff like paintings that are light and high value, and which you can steal without npcs getting mad at you.
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>>48595752
harp room is best
although i use a paper taiko because its song is the least grating on your ears after 80 requests
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>>48595571
i think theres a critical success mechanic as well? thats when you get big applause and you get way more score + gold for that performance. but even with 85 music it seems hard to get, probably because of the level * 5 multiplier.
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>>48595851
Any ranged weapon that require ammo kinda sucks ass.
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>>48595843
>What is the proc rate for dominate hostile machine
10% chance, plus another random chance based on your Dexterity and the machine's level, and it doesn't work if the machine worships Mani.
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled/blob/main/Elin/GoalCombat.cs#L152
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>>48595888
Don't think so. Successfully finishing the song gives you 110% of score you collected from NPCs, failing to finish gives half and also takes away 20 score. The text in long and the audio just depend on how much score you got.
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>>48595890
Elona's ammo items don't have quantities. You just equip a "bullet" and then you can fire a gun endlessly without ever running out or needing to reload.
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Playing as a sword sage kinda sucks, I thought i would have elemental weapons instead of elemental charges, and I can't even change elements easily.
The only viable early game builds are melee or boomerang.
Seriously why people keep saying this game is good.
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>>48595913
why did noa change this
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>>48595913
Playing elin...
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>>48595900
Wao, thanks! Wasted 1 hour thinking I could convert Big Daddy into my ally in Elin. Guess I just need to get better at the game.
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Does anyone know where in code the luck is accounted for? The ID is 1628 but it's not actually used anywhere.
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Is there a spell or something to travel from my base to a town? What were those waystones for?
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>>48595915
Channeling mana onto weapons instead of talismans should have been the way to go. Let the other classes use talismans.
It sucks so badly. It's like a mediocre mage and weak warrior in early game.
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>>48595915
SS kinda sucks and is only good for playing around with its gimmick (talismans). That's presumably why it's an "extra" class.
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>>48595947
1628 is the lucky feat
luck stat is 78
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>>48595871
cargo boxes are pretty light and sell for 200ish
just pop incognito if anyone gets mad
or kill them, not like karma matters
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>>48595971
Oh yeah, you're right. It's used in Dice.Roll and that is used in attacks and abilities, but music apparently is unaffected by luck then.
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>>48595969
Will it ever get better tho?
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>>48595954
closest thing is using the return spell/scrolls to travel through story dungeons
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>>48596076
so the waystones in towns don't do anything?
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>>48596092
they make them your respawn point iirc
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>>48596045
If talismans get changed it'll probably be better. The biggest problem ss has is that they're built to use talismans and everything talismans do can be done better by a spell, making them just worse warmages.
What you're looking to do (have elemental damage on your physical attacks) is already in the game. It's the effect of intonation spells.

>>48595954
The closest thing is spending rations to fast travel on the world map.
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>>48596229
They'll probably be way better if the melee rework eventually rolls out. They're supposed to be warriors that have additional magical effects on their attacks.
Changing the way talismans work would also make it feel a lot better.
For example, making talismans function like ranged weapon upgrades that use spell stock as ammo. This would then allow literacy and learning to be functional and potentially allow better spell damage scaling.
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i don't get the rationale of the permadeath players. everyone else on ylva respawns, what makes you so fucking special?
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>>48596452
>games keep claiming it's rogue-like
>respawns
Get a load of this guy.
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>>48596495
elin is nowhere near roguelike since there's no central dungeon yet
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What are arrow and bullets for? My pets are firing their guns without giving them any ammo
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>>48596539
i assume noa rightfully thought pet ammo management would be worse than aids so he cut it.
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>>48596521
>elin is nowhere near roguelike since there's no central dungeon yet
Void
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>>48596619
where's the fucking orb of zot
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why does the mage statue have big stonking tits, who is it supposed to be
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>>48596773
that's the cat statue, and it's because she's intrinsically good like big tits.
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>>48596045
It's pretty much a late game class for rich adventurers, I haven't really had issues with it aside from the early game where I expected it to suck, as talisman use is nigh unaffordable and highly inefficient, application is also clunky so I altered my inventory/hud layout.
Mid-game you can dupe talismans(spellbooks) with Demitas and enemies die fast enough you won't drain talismans too too fast, late game you'll likely need to expand your talisman repertoire and invest in magic shops to keep a viable stockpile going as enemies become sponges that drain talismans quickly. I'm going with Ice Arrow/Ice Bolt/Lightning Bolt from shops and started duping earthquake talismans at the moment. Using lightning intonation+wet combo generally
Just casting earthquake is generally better but if melee buffs make melee comparable to casting, then getting an earthquake on top will be nuts. Don't expect to be using earthquake talismans for a very long time though, it's very inefficient which is basically the name of the game for sword sage, you just get rich enough that the inefficiency stops mattering
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My character with Oath of Eternity just died on the 6**th day to a champion hot guy exploding. Just as I was planning to escape from the dungeon. Oh well.

Anyone wants to share their potraits in a mega to help me deal with the grief? AI slop is accepted as long as it's decent quality.

That will set me in the mood for the next run, I wonder which class/race I will pick this time.
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>>48596495
Elona was more roguelike since you could create a successor character when you die
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>>48596495
Play on oath of eternity
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>>48597112
>Not having allies with resurrection at day 6**th of the game.
>playing melee in a permadeath game
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>>48597196
I already got resurrected when stepping on a mine. And yes I played melee I like roleplay I don't care for meta.
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>>48597244
>I don't care for meta.
>plays oath of eternity
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>>48597252
NTA but man sound like a shitter and a faggot. Stop policing how other people play when you're too much or a pussy to play eternity yourself
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>>48597307
>NTA
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>>48597252
But you are right.
When I started playing on Oath of Eternity I had to spend a lot of time planning and routing exactly what to do on my early game to reduces my chances of getting fucked.
Examples include quickly making a bed, 9x logs, 5x stones, 4x vines for boomerang, a torch, picking up the bonfire and gathering food first on nearby map tiles with low danger level etc.
Even on mid-game all my oath of eternity runs follow a similar script. The same platinum skills, trading the same furniture with tickets, always recruiting older younger sister....
Oath of eternity is made for metafagging because there's this much bullshit that can happen just to fuck over you.
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>>48597396
Oath of eternity is honestly just like Minecraft hardcore. The only good thing is that Elin doesn't tick if you are not moving which means you have an infinite time to either think or proceed to save scum anyways hahaha.
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>>48597396
As I said, I enjoy the roleplay. I like having to be careful, but I still go at my own pace without minmaxxing, as blind as possible when it comes to wiki. I only allow myself to get suggestions from the jp threads. If I die I just make another character and restart. I like it this way, I wasn't complaining about dying, I still feel some grief after a long run, but I move on.
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>>48597396
You don't even need to be that exact on Oath of Eternity. The main cause of death for any character in the early/mid game is doing something dumb: picking fights you can't win, exhausting your stamina, not carrying supplies you should be, doing suicide run for a faraway town, etc. You don't end up encountering any real bullshit until you're late enough into the game to have tools to mitigate them.
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>be me
>play oath of eternity
>get bored
>do stupid shit cos bored
>savescummed the game so I can do said stupid shit
>rinse and repeat till I actually get bored and delete my world
RREEEEEEEEEEE
Honestly the fun part is just the start where anything can murder you. After that you get your army of Little Girls™ to spread mayhem across the lands and life gets boring again.
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>>48597626
Agreed with what you said. But! Being exact and having a to-do checklist in the form of planned routing allows you to turn off your brain on the relatively boring parts.
Also,
>main cause of death
You plan not for those, but to attempt to avoid the most unpredictable deaths.
For example, I saw other people in in both /v/ and here that they met their demise due to Kamikaze Yeeks, Mercenaries and Boars in their Meadow. Getting rushed by a boar from outside your sight might sound like something unavoidable, but that's just lack of planning since you could've just checked your build board regularly when working to check for dangerous enemies.
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Desire for violence gives so much damage, unfortunately I went light armor/DV
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>>48597722
unfortunately DV falls off lategame cause shit will hit you either way and spells can't be dodged
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>>48597672
You've also seen how people ITT live. You can also just build fences around your crops and a house for your crafting tables. The latter ensures your guards (or babysitters early on) can take care of any threats before they can sneak up to you and the former allows you to see any enemies before they can get in explosion/charge range while you plant/harvest. You could even use a permanent tent if you're really paranoid.
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elona is melting my brain
>companions
>pets
>stack spell system
>wishing
>cards
>figurines
>fuckload of skills
>housing system
>genes
>fame system
Just rescued the dog from Puppy cave and I'm overwhelmed by all this
also already died like 3 times and I lost my starting pet
still have no idea what materials like ores do, I have trouble collecting them now because my cave is already full of loot which in turn is happening because I have no fucking idea what may come in handy later on
found a couple of pet training tickets, had no idea pets could be trained even

I was baffled when I heared people saying they don't know what to do in Terraria, now I remember how it is to be new to a "wiki" game holy shit
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>>48595109
i love breastsssss keep doing gods work my man.
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>>48594609
does not even look like a yeek, just a generic coombait goblin
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what's the deal with scrolls of flying? Why are they so expensive?
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>>48597962
they make things lighter or heavier if cursed
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How accurate is this for trade skill leveling and efficient material spending per XP?
Crafting = Hammer stacks of shit like bags
Weaving = ??? (Sofas?)
Blacksmithing = Pipes
Carpentry = Tables / Foreign doors?
Jewelry = ?? partially in game? what ever I have gems for I guess
Alchemy = not in game?
Sculpture = Shelves/sinks?
Farming = Water crops with can and scythe any grass in the wild?
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>>48598304
making windows in a glassmaker's workshop increases jewelry
making dye in a dye cauldron raises alchemy
weaving fibers then turning them into textiles for foreign doors levels weaving fast enough to keep up with carpentry
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anybody knows of any mods with more glove options for character appearance?
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>>48591852
Here is an example of how vibe transfer works. all same prompt
>no vibe
>only character sprite vibe
>only style mix vibe
>style and character vibe
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>>48598569
God I hate this dumb fucking cat and the fact that her bodypillow tied to you being able to unlock cool new recipes.
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>>48598589
wow rude. no cat milk for you.
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>>48598679
Hold the furniture tickets in your hand and right click on the furniture in the town.
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>>48598689
Sorry might just be misreading an anon's autistic text dump on a map image but the implication I'm trying to figure out is whether I can exchange meadow influence for Mysilia tickets, and how? I know how to use tickets and all, just the way this image was worded makes it seem like you can use meadow influence in mysilia somehow.
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>>48598641
sorry i've just been given +100 insanity from blackjack grinding and i got heateded
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>>48598707
If you recruit a secretary she'll sell Mysilia tickets.
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do I really need to use potions to make clay?
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>>48598770
Nah, I just use api nut beer
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>>48598770
use dirty water from metal nefia or bonito flake wine
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>>48598703
@ me when he boobifies loytel so i can finally pay the bum debt
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>>48597840
it do be like that
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Is there a way to reduce the prices you pay at the shops
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>>48598770
You can use bone or crim powder.
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>>48599024
negotiation skill
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>>48599024
Recruit the shopkeeper and apply your home discount (make sure you have the policy turned on), much more effective and any realistically obtainable level of negotiation skill. At least in my town populated entirely by shopkeepers whipped into boosting home discount.
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I just found a shrine of silver hammer in a DL 45 dungeon, is it good for anything? Pretty much all my gear is using high end materials by now.
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good way to level up carpentry?
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Anyone know of a good recipe for magic foods? I have around cooking 25 atm.
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how do I increase admin points?
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>all I had to do to fix my fire resist was use an item I had stashed
I'm retarded
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>>48599337
level up the hearthstone is the main way. both the hill cave and meadow give +5 admin points to all your base levels if you get them to level 6 or 7 i think, but im not 100% sure about that.
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What's the point of farming? can it be automated to make money? I'm not even gaining seeds only breaking even this is pretty shit
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>>48599333
Something with tomato (veg), orange (fruit) and salt (seasoning).
3 tomato + MAG meat stewed veggies is an easy one.
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>>48599333
Desserts generally are the best, as you want to stack sweet and spicy. Something like double rainbow fruit giant shortcake or grand parfait is ideal, but shortcake, etc is more within your range.

Sugar you make from your own honey can readily add a bit of mag xp to any meal you make, same for salt or wasabi for mag potential.
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Does studious increase delegated farming yields?

>>48599463
Yes, you need the delegated farming policy and then you have to make a 5x5 plot of land and put a farming sign down and make a shared container for the farmers to put crops into, they automatically harvest and improve the crops. I'd find a fridge for them to put the crops into. Delegated farming will not increase your farming skill though and they'll only improve seeds up to your farming skill max.
Not only that, but to get more seeds to plant you have to harvest the crops yourself with a sickle which sacrifices the fruit of the crop but gives you at least one seed up to at max 3 seeds, this way you can slowly build up to more crops.
You can only harvest unsickled crops once. you then have to break the leftover bush which MIGHT rarely drop one seed. So you have to pick between receiving a good bounty and getting more seeds when you're not delegating the farming. Delegated farming automatically harvests and then replants your seeds with no sickling or input required but makes way less money than tediously planting, harvesting/sickling and then replanting yourself.
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>>48598725
It's ok anon, lucky days just got implemented.
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>>48599540
ok thanks sneed.
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>>48599555
By the way you need farmers which you can kidnap from yowyn with a monster ball. Best way to get monster balls is at the casino. Best way to do farming is have specific farmer npcs at the meadow.
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>>48599527
My current go to is fluffy bread with (mag)api+2x cake dough made with (mag)wheat and self-made sugar+2x (mag)rainbow fruit cheese.
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>>48599568
im pretty sure delegated farming works with no NPCs at all.
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>>48599568
I fucking saw a monster ball on my first trip to tax town and haven't seen one since. I haven't seen a casino yet either.
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What the fuck is the deal with boomerangs? Here I'm suffering with my 2d13+4 godly longsword barely able to scratch most of boss mobs, and this stupid thing can just be crafted and does 2d83+7???
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>>48599474
hmm, tomato only has MAG but not MAG potential right? is there an easy way to get MAG meat? almost all the corpses ive found focus on str...
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>>48599584
Casino is in palmia southeast building with dice on top. Best way to get tokens is to go to putit basketball game set a metronome at 87 bpm and throw the balls in time to that. After you get 100 tokens you savescum at blackjack. Once you get 1k tokens you can bet 1k at a time on blackjack. You can get a shitload of tokens savescumming blackjack, enough for anything at the casino. You have to go to the casino through the teleporter at palmia and then go in and step on another teleporter to get to the second floor of the casino, the basketball hoops, blackjack tables and casino clerk who takes your casino chips are there.
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>>48599575
im currently working on breeding api nuts with mag potency so i think this is the best option for me, i just need to get my hands on the recipe somehow.

whats the best way to get loads of cake dough? NPC vendors dont sell enough. is there a way to make it yourself?

Also, is there an easy way to get loads of seasonings that add str potency?
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>>48599592
Throwing weapons have a funny thing where they get stupidly big dice in exchange for never getting a damage multiplier, so eventually you'll be doing something like 7d5+46 x12.94 damage with your melee weapon. And then you keep using the boomerang anyway because it can do 2d1999+33 x1.00 damage.
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Is there a trick to leveling cooking? Im sinking tons of plat into the skill but even then it takes forever. And i keep getting recipe upgrades for stuff i don't want to cook, instead of the ones i want to cook...
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>>48599592
>2d13
I was chopping trees and this thing dropped. I'm supposed to be a mage but now I'm chucking this thing 90% of the time.
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>>48599623
You make cake dough by mixing wheat and sugar in the mixer. The best str potency stuff is always gonna be meat cheese.
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>>48599624
Oh, I see, so that's what the multiplier is...

So in my case, boomerang's average is (1+83)/2 * 2 + 7 = 91 damage, while sword's is ((1+13)/2 * 2 + 7) * 4.49 = 94.29.

I wish there was a way to see detailed combat log calculations.
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>>48599657
*the best str potency seasoning is always going to be marbled meat cheese
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Does anyone know if studious increases delegated farming yields
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>50 tickets later and still no first prize
noa you cant be serious
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I should be putting stuff into delivery chests if I want gold bars, right? Other ways of getting them are too time consuming (dig dirt or do quests).
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>>48597840
don't forget tourism
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is this game any good, feels like a cash grab with a new set of devs coming in years later to cash in on a sleeper hit with a sequel
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>>48598725
surely putit ball is easier for chip grinding than blackjack?
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>>48599726
So far it seems a remake rather than a sequel.
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>>48598770
potions of cure are the quickest way if you aren't a broke bitch and what i personally use to stock up but yeah you can use dirty water or snowballs or anything.
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>>48599540
eventually you get sunlamps that work in winter in a 13 diameter circle like this. i think flowers are pretty common for the outer areas, but it's a lot (44 tiles), so I just put down some extra farm signs and plant whatever.
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>>48599723
please elaborate, I can't find anything relevant on wiki
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>>48599754
I have already told you all that I know.
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>>48599761
well that wasn't much
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>>48599754
You build a huge museums with all the statues you find and it produces a nice and sable income of about 10 orens per day.
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is there a limit to how many items can be dropped on a single tile?
I'm fishing and have like 150 bait to go through and don't want items disappearing or something
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I was raising wheat for every stat in Vernis seperated by 1 cell and in a paddy, went to go do other things during the long ass winter, and come back in spring to all of them are fucking gone except for 2 rank 0 statless ones. The hell happened? I didn't drop below minimum fertility AFAIK, nothing was withered they were just gone. Shouldn't the seeds overwinter and get replanted with delegated farming on?
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>>48599848
150 bait is a trifling amount, you're fine
in my experience 80 is enough to chop everything up before it starts to rot, which saves up on space a bit
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>>48599848
residents and guests can steal shit from the floor, you could also turn on the option to put fish straight into your inventory and have a fridge next to you or something
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>>48599657
>>48599662
>meat cheese
how
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>>48594539
>>48594526
I am the anon from the screenshot
Ancient Crab meat is generally easier to get because crabs have normal chances to lay eggs as lifestock(that also means you can have much more of them)
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does flour count as "dough", or do I specifically need bread dough for soft & fluffy bread?
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>>48599981
you make cake flour with wheat and sugar
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>>48599981
just dought
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>>48599992
okay but i asked an entirely different question
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>>48599996
how does soft & fluffy bread work? it gets recommended a lot my understanding was that you could mill wheat of 4 different potencies into 2 flours with double potencies and use them for cooking bread/dough/flour/whatever.
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the game should let me shear nefu and mifu
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>>48599862
Apparently I had no farming sign. Fuck my life.
This game has a million things you can forget and fuck yourself over on.
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How do I stop having all my shit destroyed by fire/ice casters? I know the fire/ice scarves block it but they're pretty limited in charges.
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>say I want to develop my land
>scroll summons a male prostitute
>in a couple days he fucks all my girls and even fiama
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>>48600129
you can craft cold/fireproof blankets and they aren't too terribly expensive. mostly need a lot of textures (easy if you've been saving your garbage like a good boy). fireproof blankets need carbon logs which is just any wood in the kiln, and coldproof blankets need ice which you get from mining walls in the snowlands. there's also a mod for stackable & splittable lockpicks, blankets, etc.
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>>48600129
increase your fire and ice resistances
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>>48600006
The short of it is that you can use 8 different potency wheat to make four different kinds of flour, then put two types of flour into the cheese shelf, then you get all 8 stat potencies in one single food.
Alternatively you can put meat into the cheese shelf for very high strength potency food.
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>>48596786
Anon clearly said the mage statue. And yes the mage statue has a nice ass too, it's just a generic mage.
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>>48600149
Whenever I have male prostitute tourists they seem to go straight for the pigs and chickens, then get mad when the animals are unable to pay.
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>Yeek cave is a static location to Return near Derphy
... is there a list of return locations I should be entering? specifically any near Lumi or Noel?
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>>48599922
Put the raw meat into the aging rack to turn it into cheese.
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>>48600149
>>48600271
So if you allow tourism, you'll eventually get cucked?
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When playing on Oath of Eternity, I like to impose certain restrictions on myself to guarantee that I'm capitalizing on my skills and not being a retard over RNG and luck.
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>>48599922
Aging shelf. Take your good powerful meat like >>48599943 and putit into an aging shelf. Now you can use that powerful cheese in many cooking recipes.
You can also first turn that meat into kibble to boost its nutrition value, and then cheese it.
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>>48600465
this along with the flower > fertilizer pipeline just makes me realize im not as autistic as i thought
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>>48600347
Yes.
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How do I farm seasoning? I've been doing the fishing -> bonito flakes thing but the water in my base froze...
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how do I make it as an innkeeper? I can't make any good beds yet and only get pennies from lodging
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>>48600465
Nta and I'm new.
What does nutrition do? I assumed it was just related to how much hunger it recovers.
Is it related to the food potency/potential food has in anyway?
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>>48600507
you can build a house and put water tiles inside for winter fishing
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>>48600149
>>48600347
>>48600500
You can get "Mother Prohibited Zone" which doesn't let prostitutes and mothers in.
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>>48600534
what do mothers even do, I've never seen them outside the orphanage where I stopped briefly
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>>48600543
They rape NPCs randomly
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>>48600507
Aging shelf. Raw food and corpses placed into it turns into cheese, a seasoning.
>>48600513
Correct, the nutrition value is how much hunger it recovers.
It's not related to food POTency specifically, but it does increase how much you gain from the stat levels the food has. Although I don't know how it works specifically. Did an anon ever dive into the code and figure that out?
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The orphanage is really curse.
The director is "extravagant" and there are multiple sexual pretadors there.
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>>48600534
Didn't know it worked against whores. I thought it was just to get rid of succubi. Thanks!
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>>48600543
Mothers are actually succubi. Which means that yes the ones at the orphanage are fucking the kids.
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that was funny
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Does anyone have that Japanese site with the monstergirlified sprites? I'm specifically looking for the Tentacle sprite replacements that were on there.
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>>48600971
http://amaebiworld.web.fc2.com/rkgk/elin/elin_replace.htm
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>>48600949
I like that fights actually can de-escalate without anyone dying.
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what is this thing?
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>>48601030
idk, i got one too. i turned it into obsidian and it was really good. i also got The Flam once.
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Melee update never
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>>48601139
>9 days since last update
>Japanese dev so no Christmas excuse
Abandoned AGAIN
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>>48601149
I'll just wait for Ano's piss update
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>>48601151
Noa already added it in nightly..
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>>48601215
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why...
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>>48601231
Killing brats is a long time tradition in north tyris
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Caugh Loytel spawning a Whale to keep himself feed.
Do I yoink it from him? And if I do, what do I do with it?
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>>48601262
Sisters are for love
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>>48601268
Turn it into wine directly, or turn it into fertilizer
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>>48601268
Stuff it in an onigiri, dupe it and use the copies to gain Kizuami piety.
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When do i learn it...?
I am at 20 weaving almost
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>>48601440
Try going into dungeons and cutting cobwebs, sometimes you unlock recipes that way too
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>restarted my run as SS on Elin
>got a new little girl™
>Favor of healing
>doesn't fucking heal
Wtf is wrong with this game
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>>48601030
The best early game weapon you can craft and spam besides the wooden bow.
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>>48595109
added ghost
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>>48601477
I have cut hundreds, if not thousands..
just how low is the chance?
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>>48601499
Noa you sick fuck...
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I need hermit crab racial feat gene
make my GK unkillable..
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>meta question
Does the divine feat actually work in Elin for NPCs? >>48601486
It doesn't seem to work here.
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>>48601499
>>48601504
Recipe learn chance needs to be weighed so that the chance increases every time you do a related action until it finally hits 100%. Either that or the recipe acquisition system needs to be overhauled entirely.
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>>48601572
They get the passive attribute and skill bonuses from worshipping the god, but their AI doesn't recognize if it provides them a new action they can use.
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>>48601592
NOA YOU FAGGOT AHHHH
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>>48601592
Welp, guess this little girl is rendered USELESS as my healing/tank.
Thanks Noa.
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Every god weapon but Opatos Hammer is boring as hell and useless unless actively worshiping
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>>48601592
what?
My little girl turns machines to my side since she worships mani
is that not her using an action?
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>>48601680
It's a passive effect with a random chance
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>>48598703
What's this from?
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>>48601660
My joy is ruined now,and I am restarting to reroll myself a better little girl™ as the true god of this game is a sick twisted individual. Fuck you Noa.
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>>48601769
>>48601660
you can change a pet's god, can't you?
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>>48601831
with doujin
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>>48601831
>>48601841
Too much work lmao. How to even acquire a doujin
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>>48601851
mostly festivals
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>>48601851
artists in your town mainly
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>>48601669
For active use as a melee weapon, yeah pretty much.
Lulwy and especially Mani weapons have no faction dependency and are amazing. Jure and Horome's weapons are great stat sticks for ranged.
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>>48601854
Note that doujins in festival shops are unidentified and the only way to find out who they're for is to buy them for 10-15k each and then *identify* them.
So either you savescum or you potentially waste a significant chunk of change on a doujin for an unimplemented god.
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>>48601854
>>48601856
Good because this little girl™ has the hobby of nursing. Any other hobby that are better in your opinion?
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>>48601880
exploration, painting, gardening, chores, pet are all pretty good
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>>48601851
Hire a festival merchant they carry god doujins and letters of indulgence every 5 days
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I wish there was a race that gives you a +1 domain of your choice. I know you can always just buy the scrolls, but those don't get refill themselves with Dream Waker. The blessings don't refill either so the feat is also useless if you want to collect buffs/debuffs.
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>>48602008
don't blessings not have a domain regardless?
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>>48602008
honestly I don't like the domain system at all, I just get the same shit and don't get to try new spells
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>>48602015
>>48602019
Yeah, it's annoying. I thought they were Holy and paladin has Holy so I took it as a Mifu, then at dream waker 3 I just get the same bolt and touch spells - with the occasional intonation. It makes playing a gish in this game troublesome, except when you're a sword sage or something. Same reason I kinda don't want to play inquisitor because you can't replenish your Bane naturally.

At least I have the mana battery mutation and it doubles the source of spells could draw upon.
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>>48602031
holy is shit too, just different colored magic and practically nothing is weak to it, I don't even get healing/buffs in my holy domain
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>>48602036
Wait, the undead are not weak to holy? What the fuck?
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>>48602008
>but those don't get refill themselves with Dream Waker.
Wtf they don't? Also they should at least make dream waker 4 that at least let you dream specific domain dreams.
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>>48602043
Dream Waker refills your domain spells, but blessings are NOT domain spells so an archtypical buff and heal combat caster like the paladin can't actually do their job because Dream Waker does not replenish heals and buffs. It just refills attack spells.
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>>48602036
>I don't even get healing/buffs in my holy domain
Wtf having a holy domain doesn't grant us heal spells? Fuck this game.
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>>48602049
Just buy spells from a healer, their inventory is restricted to buffs and heals.
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>>48602042
I don't have any info right now but all the undead I fought just shrugged off my holy attacks like it was nothing
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>mfw when my SS™ build has to be handicapped till dream waker 3 to be even viable early game.
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>>48602057
what about debuffs
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>>48602042
Holy is explicitly a neutral damage type: nothing resists or is weak to it.
Undead trait gives fire weakness.
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>>48602061
your putit in amber?
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>>48602066
I been chopping but it ain dropping.
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>>48599657
where do you get wheat seeds and how do you get sugar?
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>>48602061
Oh and I forgot. SS can only use talismans on melee weapons. *facepalm* I been using intonation and the bolt and touch way more than talismans.
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>>48602065
Annoying, but acceptable. I use Holy because they scale off Will and I rely on Horome for both my casting and longsword so a neutral damage type at least is good because it's reliable.
But damn, undead not being weak to holy is gay.
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>>48602071
honey in the millstone can get you a lot if you have a beehive
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>>48602062
invest at a town's secretary; this will increase the amount of items ALL merchants sell in that town
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>>48602085
Can you take home a secretary and use it in your own land?
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which is the best fairy
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>>48602058
if you have the gan display mod iirc it shows that undead aren't weak to holy, they are slightly weak to fire though.

the resists are really weird in this game, liches dont even have any cold resist and you would expect them to have some...
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>>48602071
wheat -> steal from yowyn (I think you can also buy them at mifu village?)
sugar -> bake in kiln
>>48602090
ye
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>>48602091
6 or 7
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Is it viable for a chaos shape to have a normal amount of limbs and eat the kids for attribute positive? Can you grow a tail?
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>>48602080
A holy Horome worshiper? I thought about doing it but my magic was noticeably outscaling will thanks to her bonuses.
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>>48602106
>trading 12 equip slots for 40 life
you could just equip one item with cha and end on it and negate all of that
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>>48602107
If you just autocombat, magic will just outscale everything else you do. I had a Horome Executioner but had to restart because I just turned into a pure caster with MP as HP and I specifically wanted to be a hybrid character. Yeah, attack spells are too strong because they don't miss and are diverse enough that they scale off different stats.
But Horome is good because she gives you Casting and you could just ignore your magic stat altogether and actually level the stat you use for your spells (will for paladin).
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>>48602080
It makes sense when you consider that undead aren't really "unholy" in-setting. They worship gods and such just like everyone else.
If you're a paladin you do get fire domain as well, though I assume you aren't because it's a class entirely built around worshipping Jure.
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Do magic and holy get better dice to compensate their lack of secondary effects? afaik holy's nearly unresisted and I imagine it's not much different for magic, but elin doesn't inflate high level enemy resistances like elona did so something like sound magic still hits hard on nearly everything deep into endgame while also dimming
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>>48602133
>>48602135
Based Horome paladin lol
I actually was thinking about lightning paladin with Horome, endgame enemies take so fucking long to kill it's not that big of a time waster to manually sprinkle water from your watering can to wet them, or just get an ally to wet them
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Does luck affect the status effect chance? Thief stats with +30 luck and has the chaos domain, could be really funny if it does.
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>>48602179
>Noa
>giving anything beside his favourite class a buff
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>>48602143
Hand, arrow and bolt spells have the same damage scaling for all domains.
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If only dyes took on the upgraded qualities of the material..
I tried making a dye out of +7 cashmere but I only got the normal 4price dye
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>>48602179
No
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>>48602151
Why paladin over priest?
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Gold statues in dephy are made of gold CUT STONES
Which you can dismantle into gold STONES, so if you put them into a stone cutter you get basically an infinite supply gold cut stones to sculpt with.
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I wanna make some character sprites for Elin but I'm starting to have fun, how do I start? Where can I extract the sprites of the game so I can begin spriting.
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>>48602277
F1 (help menu) has everything you need.
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>>48602244
Priest could work if you want some extra domain flexibility but worshiping Horome kinda implies you'll be fighting in melee. Paladin has better melee for lightning intonation unga bunga, less domains interfering with getting lightning spells, maybe get some lightning talismans(I've yet to play a non-sword sage class, I dunno how much they suck for others).
Holy horome paladin seems comfy though, you can cast big costly party-wide heals and buffs, better debuffs for bosses and then regain lost MP by just smacking enemies. Also don't have to bother casting elemental scar or worry about being cucked by Itzpalt worshiper resistance.
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>>48602277
Copy all the sprites from all the other games.
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>>48602271
uhh thieves guild entire vault is gold cut stone
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>>48602277
Just use Elona+ beautify's
https://files.catbox.moe/2o9zvq.zip
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>>48602338
how good are the intonation spells vs just doing cut damage
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>>48602360
As I understand, penetration becomes irrelevant when using intonations. Going from my katana to 0 penetration claymore was a huge boost in damage. It's also one less resistance you need if you plan to keep it on at all times.
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>>48602374
I'm just using warmonger and forget me not which have 50% and 60% pen.
I'm sure for some enemies intonation is better but I haven't got a lot of charges of it and I'm not sure which element I would want to focus on.
My mind resist is dogshit though.
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melee update never ever
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>>48602422
Despite most of the heavy lifting done in Elona. Elin is still pretty much a pain in the ass to play.
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>>48602338
I'd mostly think about picking Nether domain for a melee priest to get the HP drain effect, but I don't know how it interacts with Muramasa.
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>>48602338
Why Lightning over Fire and Holy?
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How am I doing.
Seems void does not actually scale up overworld or nefia shit, people lied.
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>>48602455
your stats are high and your depth is low
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>>48602459
Been busy setting up 3 different lands and decorating for last 2 years really
once I have smelted, waved, sawed everything I might go to void or buy adventurer license...
man why can I not delegate these menial tasks
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>>48602477
that's why your stats are high
delving just gets you gear except for the part where 90% of what you get is dogshit and 9% of what you get is trash
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What crops can grow in winter?
If I create a house with a roof, can I grow mushroom insides?
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>>48602483
you can grow everything once you get a sun lamp from mining lvl 30 nefia walls
but yes, mushrooms need no light and can grow anywhere
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>>48602454
Lightning intonation with elemental scar + wet gives a huge damage boost, and if the enemy is already scarred and wet you may as well pile on more lightning.
I have no idea what the deal is with fire, do we have any fire gods here to confirm if burning damage scales to crazy heights like bleed apparently does?
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>>48602355
Does this replace all the sprites in the game? Is it as easy as just extract in the same folder and overwrite?
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>>48602355
is there a one that does not turn everything into a girl
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>>48602528
no
>>48602546
no
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All my dumb ass wants to do is make a mod that makes a reclassed SpSummonTentacle as ActSummonTentacle but all of these mod guides are way over my head.
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>>48602546
you can selectively apply to only females with a mod now
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No wonder everything looks weird
it's the shitty filter noa added
Elin/Package/_Elona/Texture/fov.png
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>>48602603
genuine japanese pixels folded 1000 times
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wat does this mean?
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>>48602786
Wait really, intonations give penetration? They did seem really stat agnostic, giving penetration would be a good reason to invest in a particular element, but doesn't that make intonations a must have?
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>>48602813
You can just make an armored dummy and test your damage
Intonations dont give pen
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>start watching birds with a child
>nearby neutral npcs aggro because of ether disease
>Party member massacres everyone, including her
>all left in my hands of the girl is viscera and blood
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>>48602857
classic epstein party
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>>48602833
Well the post was deleted, so I don't know what that was about. I'm guessing intonations just switch to targeting resistance still.
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>>48602454
>Why lightning
Because Noa made it the meta.
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How do I improve this? My ingredients are of quality 8.
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>>48602958
>11 cooking
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Is there an explanation of how PV works? Is it just a flat reduction of damage, or a percent based (if so, what's the formula?)
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How can I get tons o f same color dye to make a lake or ocean in my home?
Why doesnt build mode just pull water from my bottomless pot?
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Fortune drum
>platinum coin
>toilet
>bbq table
>younger sister™
>Pcoin
>Globe
Lose
>Humble gift
Is this even worth it?
I savescum and even the younger sister ™ is a kinda shit temporary ally. What should I even do with her?
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>>48603169
from the code it looks like it's both
total PV is calculated by adding: PV + armor skill + DEX/10
then damage is divided by 1+(PV/100)
so at 33 PV incoming damage gets lowered to dmg/1.33 = ~75%
at 100PV; dmg/2 = 50%
and at 200 PV; dmg/3 = ~33%

on top of that every 40 PV reduces the damage by 1, starting at 1

so at 200 total PV damage is reduced to 33% and then by 6
meaning you are completely immune to any attacks dealing less than 19 damage and take 33% - 6 of all damage of 19 and above
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Think I found a rather straightforward way to level cooking.

>go on a harvest season job
>run around collecting smallest vegetables you can find
>deliver nothing
>when time starts running out, cook them into mini salads
>fail the mission, take -1 karma
>put all salads on the floor
>smash them with a hammer
>receive almost the same number of ingredients back
>cook them into salads again
>go to the step where you use the hammer

Just don't kill yourself by overworking. I get +0.5 cooking per single stack (it eats tons of stamina but whatever).


>>48603597
Very nice. Thank you.
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>>48603169
>>48603597
oh also penetration and elemental damage is done after PV is applied so PV does nothing against those
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>>48603506
The bbq table is nice if you can win it but otherwise I wouldn't bother. Younger sisters are pretty easy/cheap to recruit so don't waste tickets just for those.
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Has anyone managed to craft a wagon?
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>>48603978
that would be quite the feat, as there is no wagon recipe
best bet is to either spam requests at tinker camp for the big one or invest a bunch (which is worth it imo for nearby blacksmith/mage/healer).
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>try to make a thread about a video game on /v/
>deleted with no warning 3x in a row

when will the trannyjanny be removed
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>>48604080
if only people knew /vrpg/ existed
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>>48604080
>trying to discuss video games on /v/
might as well make a thread on ck
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>>48604113
nobody's ever been able to prove that
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>>48604113
vrpg is somehow slower than /jp/ which is impressive.
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>>48604169
I made a thread there that got to 2000 posts once.
It's actually a good place for games that aren't big enough for /vg/.
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>>48604113
>>48604130
>>48604156
>>48604169
>>48604206
you can't convince me this janitor is untouchable for some reason, its literally not even a mod doing it as its NEVER a ban
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HOW DO I UNPOLLUTE A FOUNTAIN!? (at my base)



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