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前: >>48640229

Djt is a thread for the discussion of and questions about the japanese language

There are no official guides
Resources can be found on google.com
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Ok nerds, how dekinai are you
>Your level
>How long you've been studying
>Your personalized study method

N3 reading level, N5 listening level.
6 months.
I grinded the first 200 words of core1k then started reading. After that I'd do maybe 10 new cards in anki a day when I first woke up then read the rest of the day. I neglected listening practice which is why it's worse than reading by a lot.
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>>48646647
>n5
>5 years
>shit posting on djt pretending to know everything
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>>48646647
1. I'm heavily reliant on a dictionary still, but given a sentence where I'm familiar with all the words being used I usually won't have too much trouble. That said, I'm by no means fluent and still struggle with things.

2. I made a prior failed attempt at learning Japanese where I did some of Core2k, read Tae Kim and like an idiot tried to learn kanji by rote, but it was a pretty miserable experience so I quit took a long break after that. I came back to Japanese again in late July last year, I think, so for this current session at least I've been studying for about 14 months.

3. Sooner than re-read Tae Kim, I watched the first season of Let's Learn Japanese Basic then went straight into reading Flyable Heart from there. Since then I've read a bunch of other VNs, a few manga, and one LN volume (which I read the scan of, only for it to appear in HTML format in the DJT library shortly after I finished it). I had seriously neglected listening until recently so I've been making an effort lately to watch raw anime (so far sticking to rewatches of shows I've already seen), and I've also been watching Virtual YouTuber stuff as well for listening exposure.

Didn't do Anki at all until a few weeks ago when I picked it up in hopes of helping me remember the readings of words written in kanji (I have the meanings on the backs of my card as well but they only show up on hover and 99% of the time I don't need them). I've only been adding words I'm already familiar with so far (just to be on the safe side, I've been adding pretty much every word I know except for cases like 楽しい and 楽しむ where I will only add one of them), and I'm now up to 3200 words. Not sure yet what I'm going to do with the deck when I run out of familiar words to add.
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Is the "learn kana in 1-2 hours" meme legit and I'm just retarded or is it purely for language autists?
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>>48646757
i'm not exactly sure how many hours i spent, but yeah i learned hiragana in 1 day then katakana the next day since it was weekend. probably around 2 hours for each day sounds right. just gotta grind them either in anki or on that one website https://gohoneko.neocities.org/learn/kana
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>>48646610
>Your level
don't know, don't give a shit. but I can read without too many lookups nowadays. Reading basic stuff (manga, 99% of video games, moeshit) goes by fast but anything actually hard (chuunige), it's snail pace
>How long you've been studying
I don't count time wasted on ankislopping so a year and a half
>Your personalized study method
VNs. The harder the VN is, the more I learn.
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>>48646796
>>48646647
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I enjoy koto melodies in case anyone was wondering
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>>48646757
counter question: do you think you can tell whether or not it took someone a couple of days longer than average getting the alphabet down back in elementary? no? then why the fuck would you care? most of the people here can neither handwrite or ouput even after years of studying. no that's a bigger issue than looking back and saying, you know it took me like a week to learn hiragana. that shit doesn't matter whatsoever.
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i can handwrite kana and most of the kanji. that's just basic literacy
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Haven't been studying for about half a year now. I worked through my 3k anki backlog, but I've completely forgotten ~1k words, and they're overloading my reviews every day. What should I do in this situation?
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>i can write most of the kanji
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delete anki
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yosh
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Are 支障 and 障害 about the same?
I can't figure out what 何様 means,
and is 筋書き the only word for 'plot' in story context? I see it used as an Eng translation for stuff like 構想
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How do I know if I'm whitenoising?
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try posting a vocaroo. if you can't then yeah, you are whitenoising
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>>48646647
who says im studying japanese lol
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*flips pages*
i..just understand it

not losing the wonder of this feeling is key
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>>48646647
>>48647260
it does raise an interesting point tbqh, i havent done anything beyond consuming other than the odd dictionary lookup here and there for 4 years at this point so does that still count as "studying" strictly speaking?
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if you could actually write most of the kanji that would imply you know more Japanese than most Japanese people.

related, when 女実況者s read text and struggle with kanji, do you guys think they're just pretending to be dumb for their audience, or are they actually illiterate?
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the "natives never misread or flat out dont know a reading" meme was invented by people trying to piss queefster off but im sure some of the more retarded denizens itt actually believe it at this point
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>>48647093
You could have asked an AI these questions instead of posting here.
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sucks that djt is so fuckin dead the thrash thread is dead this thread is dead not even gonna check the int one
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It just means that people are busy learning.
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yeah thats all the world needs a bunch more jsl failsons
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>>48646647
>idk
>7 months
>don't have one
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>>48647390
the guy i shared some doujinshi with is very "busy" right now
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>>48646647
good enough
8 years
i just watch and read stuff
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>>48647378
blame shota poster for these dogshit OPs, nobody new is coming in and everyone who was in is leaving because shota poster and trip fags are ruining the quality of the threads
oh well
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>>48647446
yeah its partially his fault but the real issue is that the split threads arent sustainable cause there arent enough people in either of them plus in this threads case there is only so many fuckin times u can talk about the same "learning topics"
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do not let them fool you, 鳥のミルク is actually nothing special
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djt can never die because i drop back in every couple months to shitpost
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nice 1
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>>48647494
im longing for your shitpost goodbye! ;3
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>>48647446
but im saving djt
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oh pedo demon moved here i guess
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>>48647533
Look at the last 10 OPs
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my shitposts are eternal
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>>48647533
where else did he post
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why does shotafag post new threads at page 7?
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why did the devil choose his mother out of all the billions of whores on earth to pump his molten magma load into? we'll never know
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>>48647545
that’s the age he likes them
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>>48647545
thread 作る competition
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tf is かつがれている
かつ + がる? idk
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担がれている

u dekinai fruitloop
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why did i spend all these years on a skill that even a literal 50iq japanese downie will always be better than me at
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>>48647678
immersing isn't dekinai
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video games don't count as immersion.
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>>48647707
this post is literally just content. nothing else. just empty babble for the sake of it.
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got my bill paid for in a bar in tokyo when i managed to get this black out drunk american retard to peacefully pay and leave that was a night of top tier immersion
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>>48647650
ヨイショしてからにもー!ヽ(`Д´#)ノ プンスコッ
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>>48647715
i did something similar when i was in yokohama with my wife
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かつがれていると

だまされてるのちがいは

悪意の濃さですか?
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>>48647985
かつぐ、ヨイショって悪意なくない? flatterじゃない? 知らんけど( ˘ω˘)
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悪意ないこともあるし

軽い悪意はあることもあるんじゃないかな

知らんけど
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>>48647941
you made a guy leave so she'd have 2 chairs to sit on?
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reddit ahh language
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Is my understanding of this sentence, right?, なにしろそう思えるだけの収穫があった 。" At any rate the result is being able to think that"
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>>48648087
it's more like we scored big enough that I can think that
収穫 refers to something in the previous context
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>>48647650
>うまく担がれている
sounds like 'you're being had,' 'you've been taken for a fool'
>>48648001
flatter means to give someone (insincere, excessive) compliments to get on their good side. basically 煽てる, 媚びる
>>48648087
>なにしろ
whatever the case
>そう思えるだけの
it was all we could think
>収穫があった
that was the result (what came out of that conversation)
the relevant grammar point is ~だけの+名詞
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>>48648152
>(what came out of that conversation)
ah nvm I'm stupid listen to the poster above
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>>48648144
This is the next line, so could 収穫 be referring to 瑞希の本当の顔が垣間見えた?
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>>48648172
makes sense
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What's your favorite slang for penis?
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>>48648192
schlong
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>>48648183
Thank you.
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>>48648198
If this was the daily yiddish thread, it would be appropriate. Alas...
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ai read manga "audio books" god im so brilliant with all these ideas
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>>48648231
good post. as a reward, have a rare matto screenshot
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never meet your idols
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im reblown away he sucked balls
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>>48648243
Couldn't be the fact you've probably been studying ten times as long as he has. The fact he could read and in record time says a lot. He probably didn't care alot about conversating. People get good at what they want to do. He now has the vocab though so he could work on aquisition and shit on any of his "students" fluency speeds. He's pretty much shitting on a guy using his own methods too. He just didn't immerse as much.
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>>48648257
lol
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>chin chin
but that's said at new year's celebrations!
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and i cringe every time they do it
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for some reason the japanese love to tell you about how they chin the microwave
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>>48648296
you can't ( ˘ω˘)スヤァ
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金づち why is hammer gold?
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Need some help, was reading something and a character responds with
>二ノ宮金次郎じゃないっつの!
When being made to carry more stuff.

Any idea what this means exactly? Best I can puzzle out is maybe the character is referencing some historical figure called Ninomiya Sontoku as a complaint for being used as a pack mule, but I don't know enough about him to spot the connection
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>>48648345
if it meant gold it would be pronounced kin
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>>48648365
in his statue he's carrying wood, so it's probably just like "i'm not exactly paul bunyan" except the referenced dude is more humble and less grandiose
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can you play ffxiv on jp servers as an inferior westerner? might be helpful.
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paul buにゃん
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ポール部にゃん? そーにゃのかー
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japs can't even understand this language. give up
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>>48647243
i can't understand this shit.
blonde girl likes mc, doesn't she?
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ニノはそうね

貧乏人は勉強すれば良いことがあるという希望の脅しと

金持ちは勉強しないと悪いことがあるという脅しが

半々で入っていると思う
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>>48647243
>あいあいあいあいあい
はいかわよ(*´ω`*)
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How do I stop my brain from shutting off whenever numbers are spoken.
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>>48648424
gf who rewards you with sex for parsing numbers she says
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>>48648455
I can't say 'six' very well. It sounds like 'sex' to native speakers :/
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esls gtfo
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>>48648471
lol just say six
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>>48648474
うちなーぐちわかんにゃい(∩゚д゚)アーアーキコエナーイ

>>48648475
seggus!!! (༎ຶ෴༎ຶ)
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>>48648471
it's the diff between these two
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>>48648502
thanks for your kindness ;D
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>>48648424
numbers suck lbh
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>>48648502
your image focuses on american english. it's important to note that the actual point of articulation might differ depending on the accent
pic related is a chart for RP
and the truth is actually more convoluted and horrifying because no native speaks RP or general american
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retarded pronunciation
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rp is predominantly taught worldwide
cope all you want
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僕の為に発声講座してくれてはるけど… those are all Greeks to me desu! _(:3」∠)_
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>>48648594
ɪ(near-close near-front unrounded vowel). found in words like sit, shit, pit, fit, wit, dim, lip, lib, kit, dit, knit, rip, dip, whip, etc.
the sound is between い and え
pronounce い, then try to shift to え
does that help?
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いいえ、難しすぎる
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my sharex automatically ends audio recordings after 1 second. anyone know how to fix this? I changed nothing.
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did you know there's a lot of japanese flash games? just something to think about.
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>>48648638
actually it's not 1 second, it's just completely random.
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honestly surprised i got that
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ジェ スイ デゾレ
力になれなくてすみません
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I have no idea what 「俺いろいろやられ損、言われ損じゃないか!」means, i searched on google and it still doesn't make sense to me, a little help please.
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what the fuck I literally cannot mine because sharex cancels my fucking recordings
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there is a certain freedom that comes from finally knowing what things feel "kanji-like"
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okay bored now
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Done my reps for 8 years now and still have trouble reading anything above Minami-ke or Yuru Yuri level. Was core2k/6k supposed to be enough or js there another deck i should have done? I dont really take my study that seriously because i know ill never live in Japan(too dumb for a degree) but still id like to improve to reading manga like Gunslinger Girl. I’m mining as well
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I've been trouble shooting this retarded fucking sharex garbage for an hour now. Why is it so hard for this retarded ass program to just capture some motherfucking audio
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just use obs or audacity, bro
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i don't understand this retarded fucking program. literally what is wrong here that it now outputs an error that it's unable to choose a format for "$output$"? it has access to ffmpeg, it uses the virtual audio capture as instructed, and i just copied the quizmaster settings. if I remove them it doesn't work, if I put them in but uncheck custom commands it doesn't work, literally anything I do returns an error. even when I changed $output$ to output.mp3 on both commands like it defaults to without the setting. what the fuck is even happening
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I can't believe I'm literally kmsing myself over this stupid ass program.
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dont care
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正月明けなんだけど
bad news or good news
よくない知らせがあります

いわゆる環境依存漢字なんですが

漢字63万字が削減されるそうです

削減とはいっても書き順だけ違う漢字とか

ほんの少し違う漢字がJISに統合されるそうです

この削減に100年掛かりました

漢和辞典がかなり薄くなるかもしれない
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昔の本をネットに上げるとき

底本つまり書いた人の漢字の形を

守って違う形は違う漢字として扱うというのが歴史的な日本語の漢字の取り扱いだったので

JISに寄せていくというのはかなり大きな変革になります
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とはいってもかなり機微/微細な違い

見た目が99%おなじなら同じ扱いにしようというくらいだそうです
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このくらい似ていると今回の統一対象だそうです

あくまで99%似ているもの

超絶レアな漢字なんかが対象だそうです
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かなり似ている人名漢字も

このように少し急いで統合するそうです
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>>48649269
随分と思い切ったなぁ(゚A゚;)ゴクリ
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>>48646647
>N1
>1.75 years
>mostly reading and doing ~60 new anki words daily
I wake up do my reps; make some new cards during the day and learn them in the evening. I know about 4.5k kanji and have around 15k cards but my listening is just so awful. It makes me feel really insecure sometimes despite actually know ""a lot"".
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how many dialects does japan have?
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>i know 5k kanji
>what does 目を光らせる mean
many such cases
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>>48649491
start listening to light novel audiobooks my fellow ankidrone. my listening was terrible until i started that. they're more dense than anime and you can't cheat yourself with subtitles.
https://core6000.neocities.org/audio/
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>>48649636
gabs...
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>>48647528
please man, you made this thread when the last one was on page 5...
sure people are trying to make threads before you, but who cares? what is there to gain/lose from being the OP
just wait until a thread dies before you make a new one, don't make new ones when bump limit has been reached...
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>>48650379
I'm pretty sure the shotafaggot has explicitly said that his goal is to ruin the general. It'd be better to not give him the benefit of the doubt.
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>>48650239
shut the fuck up
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>>48649269
languages tend to simplify and standardize over time, so it seems inevitable to me that people will collapse multiple variants into one for the sake of practicality. just like the phenomenom of 代用字
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>>48650553
no
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I need a DJT curated studying schedule because left to my own devices I don’t do it every day

also been on my phone and slacking at work a lot so maybe I’m just frying my attention span that way
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gotta agree with 553
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/djt/ is healing....
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>/djt/
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>>48650680
there is no need to be upset that I have more anki cards than you
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>>/djt/
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delusional
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the truth is

it doesn't even matter how hard you try
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in the end it doesnt even matter
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>I have more anki cards than you
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>>48650732
>meishi? meiji?
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>>48650768
It’s Matt actually
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nobody's trying to imitate jachink lil fatherless bro
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https://x.com/MigakuOfficial/status/1876968932185366772

educate yourself
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>bible
red flag
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no that gives terry davis vibes. green flag.
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Is there any method besides “just keep immersing” to learn
Like a more structured actual studying way of learning
If I’m not in the mood for anime I’m making 0 gains
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terry davis is a warrior of god yoga "itudemo ii yo" pants is just a grifter
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matt is the grifter as recently confirmed by george. yoga is an honest entrepreneur trying to make it in this crazy world.
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hope 邪n伊 cleans this shit up
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stfu 苦ぇr
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oh shut up you pussy
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>>48650239
>join discord for download links
can someone shoot the internet already? it's been time to put it down for over a decade and it's only getting worse
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>>48649636
Do you think people can only 1 thing or is that just limited to your own capacity? Lots of sayings also contain difficult kanji 泣いて馬謖を斬る. But you will never learn to read 瀲灩.
>>48650239
But what do you do when you lose the gist of what they're saying? I want to stop and think about the word they're saying. Just going with the flow often leads to me just losing any comprehension of what's actually happening
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>>48651089
half of it is on nyaa and more torrents will come some day
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ywnbj
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>>48651150
i rewind it a bit and listen again. maybe in the beginning you'll have to do that a bunch but once you're used to the author's vocabulary it should flow more smoothly. and i don't look up every word i don't recognize because often you'll figure it out from context later as it gets used more. 本好きの下剋上 is a fairly simple book to start with
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>>48651176
btw 本好きの下剋上 was the first book i listened to and i missed a bunch of stuff, I listened to it once and then relistened to the whole thing a second time and my comprehension had improved a lot
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prima here
might do divine next week
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>>48650239
i can't do audio anything. my autism causes my fingers to start tracing the characters in the air as i listen
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yosh
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>>48651383
ながら…いじょう
gee thanks takahashi-san
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Do you guys have any little tricks or tips to help remember kanji? Some of the high stroke ones just seem so random and my brain can only confidently remember pictograph kanji
Right now the one issue I'm noticing is I'm remembering the sentence on some cards and not the actual kanji, so if it not used in that exact sentence on anki I wouldn't be able to remember it
Or is the only advice just keep doing it
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>>48651528
Repetition
Next
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uhh this is the intermediate thread lil bro
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>>48651528
you could learn the radicals at least so you can break them down
otherwise there are plenty of mnemonic resources such as rtk, universally respected in this thread
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>>48650379
im just so excited that youre all learning japanese
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>>48651568
then get out lol
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WANI

KANI
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>>48651585
noones made the advanced thread on the red board yet
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>>48651471
that's master takahashi to you, bitch

>>48651528
write. the. kanji.
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>>48651595
fortunately there is a beginner thread for you
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>>48651471
>ながら
selfown
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>>48651597
>write. the. kanji.
vo. ca. roo
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you are a turd gracing my toilet bowl *flushes*
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kek
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flushed
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i just understand it
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>>48651528
once you move out of ur anki bubble you'll find that the spaced repetition when reading is way more effective because the sentence level and text level context changes in some way each time so u are actually internalizing the use case for a word in multiple contexts. after internalizing words this way when you see it again in a different context ur brain instantly and subconsciously eliminates similar words that it couldn't logically be from consideration before you even start actively recognizing it.
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>>48651604
別に字が読めないわけじゃないが、ただ目が悪いだけだ。失礼な、おまえ
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>>48651741
諺otd
礼も過ぎれば無礼になる
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dont think ive ever seen the kanji for ことわざ in my life lol
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>>48651770
the perils of too much reading and not enough anki
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japanese people kept saying my intonation and pronunciation was soo amazing but ive never touched pitch and know i sound horrid but its kinda nice in a way that the barrier is so low
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do you read japanese web pages with your font size increased?
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>>48651812
yeah because japanese people do that too
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i dont read japanese web pages cause its a pain in the ass i just google translate it
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>>48651738
it's really annoying when you read out of context stuff like song titles for example
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肉便器
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long running erotic manga is the best immersion medium. prove me wrong
>easy vocabulary but with occasional new words
>no furigana
>effective incentive
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>>48650947
there wasnt a bible anywhere in that shot
i wouldve already called him based if there was
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>>48651949
whats wrong with furigana?
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>>48652085
this looks like hentai, not what i meant
>whats wrong with furigana?
slows your gains
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>he doesn't have the willpower to avert his eyes from small letters
point and laugh
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you are still seeing the general shape of the hiragana group which is a huge hint
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>>48646647
n1, n1
3 years
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actually i think i agree with 095, you should avoid furigana in the beginning. just watch anime/youtube if you wanna hear how things are pronounced
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any good anime this season? they all seem like garbage but still asking so i don't miss some potential gems
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>>48652180
another L take from bongta *sigh*
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damn this general is funny but useless
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>>48652197
explain
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>>48652180
nah, furigana is great in the beginning
>>48652197
what use could it possibly even have lol? the answer is always read more and look up grammar online
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>>48652197
shoulda seen it during its peak
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>>48652227
read more WHAT?
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>>48652291
ye it was a sight to behold like a fat turd so big you question if ur toilet can flush it
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>>48652297
japanese
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sucks when i cant accept praise for knowing japanese cause i know 90% of the time spent was consuming slop with 0 thought or effort
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get some prunes my guy they're a natural 通じ薬
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I'm going to japan later this year. I've gone some reasonableish understanding of the common and basic topics, but since most of the junk i read is usually fantasy I've got a knowledge hole when it comes to stuff that a tourist would need and I don't even know what I should look for to fill it, any advice? Closest thing I could think up is watching some TV variety show that goes around touristy areas in japan and maybe something food related as well but its real hard finding TV show rips of this sort
Also jesus fuck I haven't posted here in ages why does the captcha timer run here as well there's like 2 posts per 12 hours on this board
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>>48652438
what sort of situations are you actually concerned about? i was there 2 weeks ago and felt like i would have had no problems with anything even if i didnt know any japanese. google maps makes asking for directions and about train lines unnecessary. at restaurants and bars you can just point if need be. the only thing that really comes to mind is when you get a meal from a konbini and they ask you if you want it heated up and if you want chopsticks and a bag lol
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>>48652494
Honestly I'm not completely sure myself, mostly since I don't 100% know what to expect (I went to a different country precisely once and a friend of mine handled most of the navigating since he was familiar with it all)
For the most part I guess being able to read signs and knowing food names. Having a precursory glance at locations I can go to while also reading and hearing it in japanese would be killing three birds with one stone as well
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>>48652438
if you want to practice talking with someone then you should try to get a japanaese boyfriend online. failing that there is always italki and skypech
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>>48652438
just look stuff up on your phone
thats what i do
48652586
bongta...
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>>48652581
basically all the signs u need to be able to read have it written with the alphabet underneath. for food names just figure out what you want to try before you go and you can easily find restaurants on google maps near u wherever you are or use tabelog. you'll be surprised how little you need to actually interact with people to do anything in japan. especially in tokyo you basically have to go into bars and just insert urself into convos to ever even speak to anyone lol
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kys
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>>48652367
jouzu desu ne
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nipping this one in the bud

shut da fuck up
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>>48652836
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>>48652836
now say that in japanese
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>eng subs
holy dekinai batman
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fluent reader
just shy of 8 years
sadpanda, anime, video games, visual novels and some books
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>>48652908
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just watch all of these and you'll be fluent https://www.youtube.com/@togeffet
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didnclicknstfu
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>母子
>ぼし
i swear to god this is the first time i hear this
the reading up until now was always おやこ
i'm so confused
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oh yeah, they literally JUST changed that
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>>48652998
damn, thanks!
i am now fluent in english
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>>48653015
母子家庭
父子家庭
親子
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUPimsa40No
still bumpin this
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low iq music
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its ok i listened to sibelius earlier
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mlen took a holiday
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I don't get the word "留守".
Sometimes it means stay at home and sometimes be away from home
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post a word i dont know the pitch of
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YOSH

guess i'm committing
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>>48653128
>Sometimes it means stay at home and sometimes be away from home
no it doesn't
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>>48653128
check the verb its connected to and it will become clear
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>>48653128
る-す [1] 【留守】 (名)スル

(1)主人や家人などの外出中,その家を守ること。るすい。「隣に―を頼む
(2)外出して家にいないこと。「母は今―です」「しばらく日本を―にする」「居―」
(3)(多く「お留守になる」の形で)あることにのみ注意が向いて,別のことに気が回らないこと。「攻めるばかりで守りがお―になる」
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mina... we have to stop with the one-to-one copy paste jisho posts
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>>48653145
in english, please.
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>>48653145
What is the best way to explain this? Or do I just have to guess with context?
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dame we're almost at 300 replies, guess shota faggot will have to make a new thread again to prevent any real discussion from ever taking place!
i'll just go back to reading my VN lol
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do see something strange with this japanese definition?
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家を留守にする
to not be at home, leave the house unattended, be out of the house

留守中に
in s.o. absence

留守を頼む
ask s.o. to watch the house (while you're out)

留守を守る
watching the house (while s.o. is away)

お留守になる
to slack off (勉強がお留守になる slacking on on one's studies)

留守を預かる
same as 留守を守る pretty much

居留守を使う
pretend to not be at home, have s.o. else say you're out (while you're not)

留守番
watching over the house (again, while others are out), short for 留守番電話 answering machine

留守居 same as 留守番 but not answering machine
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>>48653187
>i'll just go back to reading my VN lol
see? i told you im saving the thread
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>>48653185
i like these word play things in japanese
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i dont care what you like
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>>48653191
keep f5ing bitch
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>>48653188
yeah it looks like that anon 気に流れd lmfao
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>>48653188
loooool
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>>48653188
kugi? warui? taion?
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>>48653188
i dont get it
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you dont have to get it
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>>48653188
i see its fake and full of shit
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>>48653189
t.
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"it" being the freak who capped it
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>>48653234
so just like you then. bazinga!
sry i had to
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sasuga retard lmao
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>>48653239
dunno about that one dude, the smile with the glasses stung more
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new ゴミすれ dropped
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>>48653196
>word play
its an abbreviation
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typo?
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>>48653189
thanks
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so hi can sound like si to japanese people too
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did you get it?
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なんとなく、今年ある人物がより多くHの画像に見えるようになったことに納得がいく
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Do normalfags in Japan consider it disrespectful that otaku use "sensei" for mangaka, if that word is usually reserved for doctors and teachers etc.?
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>>48653297
i'll commend you for asking instead of being a kruger
it's not
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>>48653297
yeah
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the duality of a dekinai
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the truth is somewhere in the middle
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What's the point of learning a language when AI just does it for you for free? It's so easy learning using AI as a teacher that I think it feels stupid doing it at all. It's like a "wait a minute, what's the point now".
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anything decent on novelgame? lots of slop feels like
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i'm following this underground idol and she only has like 5 fans and one of them is this massive pervert creep whose username is like saachan_no_omanko and he posts signed photos of saachan next to his onahole and dildos and shit and @s her and she never posts sexy photos or says anything sexual but she's basically forced to respond to him with mundane shit like チェキ届いたようで良かったです because he's one of her only fans and that's really hot to me
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>>48653432
if you goal was never that of "understanding japanese" then yeah, you'll be able to read LITERALLY everything in MTL'd in english in a couple of years at most
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>>48653441
cute she probably masturbates to his pics
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>>48653443
My goal was understanding the true meaning. Reading the text directly. But I can literally instruct the AI to do exactly that, at any time of the day, for free. What's the point of the skill then? The only issue now is that you need to know how to input the text yourself, knowing the characters, when an OCR tool isn't reliable and available, but when that barrier is gone, there's no value to the skill anymore because everyone essentially will have it
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>>48653443
mtl glasses?
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>>48653432
good point, never thought about it
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What's the point of learning a language when AI just does it for you for free? It's so easy learning using AI as a teacher that I think it feels stupid doing it at all. It's like a "wait a minute, what's the point now".
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>>48653450
>My goal was understanding the true meaning
>But I can literally instruct the AI to do exactly that
that's not how it works kiddo
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>>48653460
ask the ai what the true meaning only natives would get is
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>>48653450
you simply cannot experience the true yamato spirit through the medium of english
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>>48653471
i mean if you do that for every single thing then yeah, but in that case you wouldn't be reading a translation but more of a dissection of the japanese script
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can chatgpt explain why なんですか without the が makes it really really informal japanese? everyone i ask just says "if you know japanese, you know what i'm talking about"
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ai will NEVER be able to mimic a fraction of agf's power
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>>48653505
>なんですか without the が
what does this even mean
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>>48653526
if you know japanese, you know what it means
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>>48653526
なんですか - が = なんてす
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always feels good to not need to mine anything in a message
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>>48646757
you can ""learn"" it in 2 hours with one of those kana quiz apps but you'll def have to go back to them if you want to read things at a glance
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>>48653572
nora? what's up bro
did you finish the naruto game?
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>>48653596
>did you finish the naruto game?

yes i did. i'm now trying to finish ff7. got tired of reading the VN i was reccomended by anon, i'll get back to it eventually.
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>>48653601
should've stuck to the gay cats vn
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feels good to not need to mine
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you can't """learn""" kana
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>>48653604
that was me

also YOSH
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who tf is はるかむ かしの
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stfu
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i cant read
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>>48653626
遥懸夢 菓子処
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stop spamming nigger
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click that link? never
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Is it possible to get Rikkaitan or any other browser extension, that shows stroke order of kanji characters?
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no we dont have the technology
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>>48646647
>レベル
N4 improving
>何年
about 2.5 years

planning on moving to japan later this year, still struggle with remembering stuff and specially reading
however been getting more and more comfortable with listening
next move would be to start training conversation online, tho I'm fairly confident in picking it up quickly there
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>>48653555
が=!=か
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love reading hidden shit like this
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How old will you be when you finally move to Japan?
I'll at least be 35. I need 5 YOE before I can get a decent job to move to Tokyo. Grim stuff.
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>>48653915
>これからもがんばってね!みんな大スキだよ
nice, 多い胸, whats the context?
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>>48653921
assuming you asking the post just above
first you not be retarded and learn how to quote posts

I'm turning 38yo soon, a bit late I know but whatever, at least japanese girls seem to go easier on ojisans, also japanese hags are pretty good looking

I'm gonna be spending at least 1 year on language school there, but hopefully can land a decent job based on my experience later on

>5 YOE
the what?
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>>48653928
they are all waiting for my cock
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also make a new thread soon, I got something important to ask
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>>48653952
if the thread is shota, the question cannot be answered :3
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Reading VNs always make me feel like a retard, because i feel like i should understand this, but i don't , does と考えているみたいだ mean "it looks like Megumi thinks" or "I want to think"? And how do i know when is one or the other?
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>>48653873
yeah, i substracted the dakuten
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>>48653952
ok
>>48653974
>>48653974
>>48653974
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>>48653967
just feel it, tho seriously its a bit abstract
I guess its meaning something like "want to see how it thinks"
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>>48653967
usually, it's former but you can understand it as latter ;3
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>>48653967
when みたい comes directly after a verb without a て connector or anything it's always the "seems like" one. you can't just put a something like 見たい directly after the dictionary form of a verb
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>>48653975
しれっとフラグ回収しおってからに(;^ω^)
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>>48653982
Thanks!
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>>48653975
MALICIOUS PAGE 4
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>first you not be retarded and
lol
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Sup
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>>48646610
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>thread still up 12 hours later
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last
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no im last
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don't rush, it will last a few more hours
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>>48653967
VNs may seem appealing, but it's best to avoid them due to the fact that most VNs are proprietary. VNs require nonfree applications that can compromise your privacy and security. In contrast, alternatives like manga, anime, and light novels can be enjoyed using free software such as MPV for anime, NSxiv for manga, and crqt-ng for books. Nonfree software often acts like malware, exerting control over users and creating potential risks. Stick to media that respects your freedom and privacy. Remember, most visual novels should be avoided since they are proprietary!
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>>48653813
Looking up stroke order of each character is retarded because if you know how to write at least a couple dozen kanjis with correct stroke order, you can correctly infer how to write any other character.
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saigo
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>>48646610
daily reminder to read the official DJT guide
DJT guide v3.0, written from scratch by 出来るやつs: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
NEW - rikaitan site: https://rikaitan.github.io/



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