前: >>48661157Djt is a thread for the discussion of and questions about the japanese languageThere are no official guidesResources can be found on google.com
Post songs japanese songs plshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Qw1feD3i0
>>48667388I can't read this fast, post slower paced songs please.
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19aJAsOl6VY
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t__wczfpRI
be normal and keep using the last thread until it actually dies, this constant remaking of threads when the bump limit is reached is beyond retarded>>48661157>>48661157>>48661157>>48661157
crazy how im literally the number 1 unko hater and that bitch is always replying to my posts
>>48667458no, there are multiple generals on this board that have two threads up. no point in posting on a sinking ship
>>48667378>There are no official guides>>48666194 should be the official guide
>>48667485feel free to post it along with your japanese vocaroo proving you know japanese so we can trust you :)
>>48667412don't understand why this song got so much hate
>>48667499vocaroo of what
>>48667528a few sentences in japanese explaining that the guide is good and that your advice is trustworthy because you are fluent in japanese
>>48667539that's not a fluency guide tho
>>48667555so you can't do it lol. and if it's not a fluency guide then what is it? and why should it be "official"?
>>48667571it's a reading comprehension guide
>>48667588then post a vocaroo of you reading something like a light novel
oh my god shut the fuck up
oh my god keep talking
>>48667388>>48667399you arent jap until you can understand and sing alone, which is never for you stupid foroegneehttps://youtu.be/wDlNg0_cDsQ
>>48667693 ふと、これを歌う人いるかなと思って検索はしたけど、まさかやり遂げる人がいるとは！
>>48667482i reply to everyones posts tho
not a good look
getting a little tired of this slop
>>48667751its a great look because it shows that im responsive and active in the community
>>48667755shoulda stuck with the gay cat vn
>>48667762i finished it. it was an april fools game so it was very short
>>48667766shoulda kept reading bl games
>>48667776i'm not gay
>>48667792couldve fooled me lol
watch out, we got a gay expert here
>>48667792nobody's perfect
>>48667803theyre called gexperts and that honor belongs to bongta im afraid
>>48667766>i finished ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM
What do we think of the top BL games on EGS?
>>48667818no it was an april fool's game so i'm only ironically gay. as long as i don't read literaly blslop i should be fine>>48667821absolutely nothing
>>48667821nada but otome games are where its at
I think the trick to learning Japanese is doing things in Japanese desu
>>48667824i bet you'd like the bromance and camaraderie of those games. just skip the h-scenes if you want
>>48667844i think so too but there are tons of straight vinnies that i have to play firstonce i finish with the retroslop gotta finally play famicom detectives and old rances
>>48667852rance is just a bunch of cringe games made by someone obsessed with rape
>>48667755if you had paid for the game properly you would have made it all the way through
>>48667864yes, as i've said, rance has priority>>48667875i'm more than half-way through and i gotta finish it this week
>>48667830if that worked then you guys would actually know japanese
>>48667388https://youtu.be/xIZZmSDj4ok?si=kZQib1p8fgNP-N02
>>48667879That’s not true
>>48667910prove it lets hear a vocaroo
i dunno what happened but today it just hit me: y'all are actually fucking retarded. i won't be coming here anymore
>>48667956self own be like
>>48667959あのvocarooへの何の役にも立たないこだわり捨てたほうがいい
>>48667985vocaroo yourself saying that and youll prove me wrong
永別しようとするところだったのに
>>48668003concession very much accepted lmfao
じゃっ、またいつか
>>48668037okay well dont let the proverbial door hit you on the the proverbial ass which just so happens to have my WHOLE foot shoved directly up it
>>48668037おうまた明日な！(｀･ω･´)ゞ
the avg age of anons in this general is low, no wonder you guys don't know japanese
漁夫の利
>>48668083i know japanese tho
>>48668037>>48668003knows j>>48668100>>48668055dreams of knowing j
arika゙toko゙sa゙mas
>>48668114than゛ks゛!!
imako゙to hayai tsuko゙i benkyoushiteimasu
>>48667920You’re the one saying doing things in Japanese won’t teach you it You do one
See? This is what real inoutpersion looks like.
>>48663056なにがあったんだろうhiro博先生絵が荒れている
>>48667693brazy how i saw this in like 2008 and just understood it
>>48668190Lily, behave yourself more kawaii, okay? ;3
immersed a lot with that jp ALF stream yesterday. actually not a bad show to do it with, you don't really care when you don't understand something because you know it's ALF, but it's somewhat entertaining enough to keep it on, even just for the novelty of a jp dubbed American show.
>>48668256cool now go do more of that kinda stuff instead of posting here, in 1 year you'll make it
>>48668256eventually, did ALF eat cats on earth? Σ:3
>>48668265unfortunately, he couldn't understand ALF
I love my 鯉人's scaly fussy.
wake me when there's an OP that isn't gay
>>48668394https://vndb.org/v4107
I wish I had dl'd all the manga and vns from kitazura neko at the time, now all that's left is torrents which my isp doesn't like. Why did it have to happen bros...
>>48668144youre making a claimim simply introducing some healthy skepticism plus i asked first
I don't know what 引っかかった means here, i even consulted Weblio, and i still don't understand. I also don't know what 気になってたの見られたから means and what の is doing. Help, please.
>>48668479>consulted weblioliterally just use an english dictionary if youre this bad lol
>>48668479
>>48668493now search kachite
>>48668493I know, but it doesn't make sense in that sentence.
>>48668493ngmi response lmao
>>48668479name a worse verb than 掛ける and its variations
>>48668506only dekinais get tripped up by it (no pun intended)
double rice disappearing from djt forever would only be a positive
>>48668489>>48668504>>48668510>it's another day of this retard literally just spamming demoralisation all threadmust be fun spending so much time being cynical and unhelpful
>>48668515im the most helpful person in the thread tho>>48668519at least i know which sense of the word it is unlike immersionkit anon
>>48668527>at least i know which sense of the word it is unlike immersionkit anonand what does that matter when all you do is spout vitriol?>umm at least I'm ego tripping lolfucking retard.
もっこり
おはようおにいちゃんきっとＤｅｋｉｒｕ
>>48668549that's the 引っ掻く one though
^ just a quick emersion before going to bed brehs
>>48668537you sound like youre spitting some vitriol yourself hypocrite-kun
>>48668835this year is gonna be a good year for obashota and oneshota stuff
immersion https://www.xvideos.com/video.uimuimk9e38/2021_yaoi_compilation
>>48668394I wish. Like a disease they spread their mental-illness
>>48668967luckily they don't reproduce
then how the hell was matto born
I think this Alf marathon has made me realise that ajatt is the only way and anything else is dekinai or cope at best. 8h of input a day minimum.
^ ^ ^
>>48668874you always say this but that's now how it works you dumb fucktard>lmao you can't call me out because in doing so you are doing something bad yourselfyou already tried using this argument last thread. you're honestly such a piece of shit.
>>48669030r u an alf fan now
>>48669039nah. but sitcoms are pretty good for immersion, they're pretty much just dialogue non stop
i want a house md marathon dub plz
house md isn't lightweight enough. makes you wanna stop and parse the sentences again when you don't understand something...
>>48667484>other people are retarded so we should be too!
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1877726545391038874
>>48669171https://streamable.com/nelync
>>48669171wouldn't あります always check out to "have lived" whereas you'd need to say 住んでいたことありました for it to carry the meaning of "had"?
>>48669250>5年くらい京都に住んでいましたおばばかわよ〜(*´ω`*)
>>48669278think of ｘことがあります as x is a thing about me (that is still true)
>>48669250don't let the real bunko see her
What are you reading?
>>48669436lmao, sauce?
>>48669449unfortunately i do not know i got it from herehttps://x.com/raydentimus/status/1877705084085186955
>>48669449>plunderer
>>48669459thanks anyway. To respond to the previous question, I'm reading Tokyo Higoro. They talk in a weird way. Really good manga>>48669463Thanks!
where do people find raw manga?xdcc? lmaonyaa? seeds are low as fuckab? no
poor retard
>>48669560go to rawkuma or manga-zip (dot) com
>>48669602thanks
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQj3uvNP4Ew
>>48669654omg this sounds like shit
>>48669662weak sperm
sorry to hear
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB2kswPDFaI
brainrot warning
>>48667388In my teens I really liked Visual Kei and related stuff but I think that kind of music is dead for good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbsl7n3sICMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSm6yEVehashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCgyNODRgYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UVMwhiisHshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLPrT60D18k
thats a lot of not clicking
Yeah it's a high-iq acquired taste unfortunately
the taste of your tears
owned
>>48669560ab
>>48668479>>48668479this definition for 引っかかった５ こだわりが残る。すっきりしない感じがする。「言い方に何か—・るものがある」the part where it tried to be all touching didn't quite sit right with me気になってたの見られたから means I got to see something I was wondering about. The no means thing basically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V1N-qMdGwA
konnichiwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
immersionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c04swoJrEFY
>>48670855>demakekys
based
>>48669171as for me, ikukoto ga nai otoko
>>48670986whats wrong with the remake?
>>48671464*行ったこと
stfu dekinai
>>48669030AJATT is misguided since it blends manual learning methods (which are completely useless at best, and harmful at worst) with the thing that actually works (comprehensible input). Seeing you guys spending 10 minutes decoding a single sentence through manual grammar analysis and word lookups in an old SNES game while trying to read when you've only been learning for 2 days, or seeing you dumbasses post questions about the science behind some grammar you're not ready to understand yet, or seeing you morons post your Anki streaks which are no better than Duolingo, are seriously cringeworthy.Sit back, listen, and enjoy. That's what comprehensible input is. Stop looking up words and analyzing the grammar, you stupid fucks.
>>48671674
>>48671730I'll never understand this retarded argument, because I'm not a retard who is convinced by or utilizes fallacious reasoning. I always wonder how people can spend 18 or more years of their lives growing into adults and having at least 157,788 hours to think and analyze logic and its basic structures still would either be unconvinced by something because the person presenting the argument lacks some unrelated skill, or alternatively become convinced by something because the person presenting the argument possesses some unrelated ability.If you still believe that an argument's validity is contingent on the personal qualities of whatever source you happened to hear the argument from, you're too stupid to even engage with me or anyone in any meaningful way when it comes to any sort of discussion.
>>48670525>ほうれんについてひれふれへんjesus christ dude you should learn your consonants before you try to learn an accent
yoooooosh....
>>48671842ok mister smarty pants, show us the peer-reviewed meta-analysis that shows evidence to support the effectiveness you claim your learning method has
>>48671866Do you believe that the only valid form of evidence is peer-reviewed meta-analysis? If so, you have a flawed epistemology and need to work on that.
>>48671674>inputjust listening all day to people won't teach you to use the languageどんなに聞いたり読んだりしても、ちゃんと練習、勉強をしないと成果がほとんどえられないI mean, if you're content being mute and half-literate, by all means go for it
nigga just read and stfu
>>48671866>peer-reviewed meta-analysis>evidencelol
＿人人人人人人人人人＿＞ 締切まであと２日 ＜￣Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^Y^￣来月2月9日(日)東京蒲田で開催の「ショタフェス18」サークル参加申込締切は週明け1月13日(月)23:59まで！期間延長はしませんので参加ご検討中の方はお早めに▼イベント詳細https://shotafes.com/sf18/
might go there to find the perfect wife
>>48671921Keep believing that if you want. I don't care. You can easily use Google to verify you are wrong and it's been known that you're wrong for over 40 years.
>>48669035youre not just "calling me out" tho youre also being a genuinely rude and terrible person>>48669362eh shes not my type
>米＾-＾米
me on the right lol
065might go there to reenact american history x
69M
2ok now say that in japanese
that in japanese
https://streamable.com/1vf77n
あれ
ZATTINZAPANIIZU!!!
sore
vndb has fallen
uhm its clearly そのhttps://streamable.com/b4b0kq
why would anyone use vndb when egs exists
>>48673026vns were always dekinai slop for losers like bongta
gotta agree with unko sometimes
>>48673033egs doesn't have enough people. even obscure untranslated shit has more votes on vndb than on egs
>>48673043wrong
>>48673059check yourself retard
>>48673066>jp subsuh hello based department??
>relying on crutchesngmi
>subs>basedKEK
big improvement over the dekinai english subs lol
>>48673192>he can't ignore subs entirelyyou're really ngmi
how is chugger guy still causing butthurt
How good are modern LLMs are doing with Japanese? I'm having a blast with Claude and in every language I actually know it at least returns grammatically sane sentences, but I wonder how good it is at translation.What kind of errors I can expect and where?
imperial china is unironically where civilization peaked
>>48673192holy cope and selfown
>>48673236wth are you even trying to say rn? lol
>>48673253the are almost perfect. the only real downside is that since you use them to translate 1 sentence at a time, they have no idea of what the context is, and even if they had, you'd still need the llm to "read" through the script before even starting to translate. when that happens 2026 at the very latest the dekinai community will finally go extint
>>48673301cant you just tell the llm the context?
maybe manga really isnt reading
>>48673323up back to being ngmi lolguess the jp subs were too tough for ya
>>48673301good bait honestly
>>48673353>ugh i dont like anons post how do i make him mad?>hehehe i know ill just call it bait
>>48673310you'd need to put the whole script in context. and even then, most llm are trained to output relatively few tokens, so you'd need to also put its own translation into context as well. technically only gamini with 2m can handle something like this, at least for medium-small vinniesbut then we have the issue of llm becoming dogshit when the context grows (unavoidable with gpt-based ones), so you'll get an hallucinated mess down the way.there is a way to translate pretty much flawless with current tech but it's a pain in the ass to implement so i'd rather wait for agents who can do it automatically:>read the whole thing and output summary/characters/worldbuilding/etc as separate text>put all the above inside context>make it translate 1 scene at a time>throw the translation into context for a final pass for the whole thing to see if everything is coherentthis is, assuming the vn is small and the llm is good enough to not shit itself after 16k tokens (so only the latest gemini for now)
notice the haters that attacked me for complimenting anons jp sub usage dont actually attack the anon when he wimps out and goes back to english subsmethinks theres hypocrisy afoot (perhaps from the man who posted the pics himself hmmmmmm)
>>48673381do you want to have your head bashed in? you seem to be requesting that
>>48673301My favorite application is asking for closest equivalents of phrasings or even poetry.I dabbled in translation and one of the more frustrating parts is struggling to minimize the damage with untranslatable stuff or trying to recall the word you're half certain exists. Asking LLM is so much easier.So far AI only has value in connection to a user, but it's already a genuine cognitive magnifier in a variety of ways
>>48673413bizarre post
>>48670453Thank you.
>>48673486there's no way i'm gonna grab a brush, a stack of hanshi, a bunchin, a suzuri, and some sumi sticks
>>48673603a stack of daimyo retainers??
[Dox through by one initial moment]konnichiwa dekiru-tachis, bestow upon me your wisdom.1.is picrel accurate?2.if it is, why do my look up dicts only suggest something unrelated to this
ai's pretty dumb lol
lil sis....
>>48673831https://jisho.org/search/nominarazu
>>48673845so is anon kek
>>48673845xe' using claude haiku which is dogshit. current sota would never get this wrong
>>486738624o also gets it correct tho answers in jap for some reason lol
>>48673862it's the same answer, anon>>48673849>>48673850turns out I was only selecting "minarazu" part, skipping "no" by habit. I just had a skill issue with hovering, is it over for me?
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipBCtl0j4O8But how about songs that aren't anime shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNTVcAC_gxQI sometimes sing this alone. Has big energy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBRSx4EiZohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F284iB65-QU
>>48673895youll learn to hoooover everything in timeleave no stone unhoovered
>>48673895>is it over for melisten more then you'll be able to better feel out where words start
>>48673895>it's the same answer, anonno, yours said minarazu means not only. minarazu means nothing
ならず is じゃなく
>>48673831it's just のみ + ならず
it just occurred to me that I knew both what "nomi" and "narazu" means and would probably figure it out on my own if I thought for a sec instead of compulsive hovering.
>>48673934>>48664693>do not use any sort of automation/ocr/hover dictionaries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RqiN4-xGFconly real ninjas know this one
is v6265 worth playing?
>>48673939I can see merits of using it less on the stage I'm in, after better part of the year of regular reading practice, but if I had to only use copy paste from the get go i'd go insane, terrible advice.
>>48673985but if you did duolingo or core6k or whatever you wouldn't really be copy pasting that much anyway
Wow time sure does flyI’ve gone from hontoni dekinai to just dekinaiKidding I feel very dekiru
>>48674012vocaroo
>>48674012>Kidding I feel very dekiruストゥーピッド山へようこそ！次は絶望の谷です
>>48674022https://voca.ro/1eOb45FCMG6i
>ストゥーピッド山そちらこそ
>>48674060vocaroo
>>48674060だからから
>>48674070ayo why she pinching his tongue
>>48674066ようこそはどういう意味だと思っている？
>>48674076probably checking his tonsils or something. i'm not a mother, how would i know?
>>48674022I’d indulge in this running joke but I haven’t practiced speaking yet only writing/typing to communicate
>>48674071that was supposed to sayだから -> から
>>48674089oh ok nvm, i thought you could read japanese
>>48674091https://voca.ro/1lbkm6d1BCTa
>>48674095What do you mean read you said speak
>>48674089>jokethe only joke is how few people can make one
>>48674139you said you learned top 6k words so i asked you to show me by reading those words from a vinny. nobody asked you to output
>>48674157got deported by my cohabitants to a room with soft walls after i started speaking in tongues bc otherwise Anonymous on four chan dot org will call me a pussy dekinai award
>>48674158Do you have memory loss
>>48671674can you point me to a single person who succeeded using this method for japanese (pure listening/reading? + no lookups for vocab or grammar + no spaced repetition)where success is defined as learning japanese with reasonable efficiency (zero to N1 in a year)in the first place how is a total beginner even supposed to get "comprehensible" input without looking up wordsspoilers: you cannot. it will work but you will learn almost as slowly as a baby does. just because krashen says something does not make it true
>>48674290https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_oalr6uXQ
>>48674290Do you believe that the only valid form of evidence is showing anecdotal examples? If so, you have a flawed epistemology and need to work on that.
episstemology
give noobs nonsensical advice to gatekeep japanese award
>>48674315bruh
>>48674315doesn't count because >>48556440
>>48674358this
huh never noticed typos in my linnies before
>>48674479get better bait bro
stop using dogshit ai and then complaining about it
>>48674494hes just using it wrong is allits not for checking typos
or else?
or else youll hurt anons wittle baby feefees
>>48674315keeki has literally said she only learned through conversationhttps://youtu.be/DmsBHGVbDaI?t=68かいわか・い・わ
>>48674596yeah conversations are comprehensible input and what krashen recommends
>>48674610ナイス釣り
>>48674616not bait some anon linked a talk by him ages ago and thats exactly what he said and he also talked about social norms and gesturing etc you get as input that way
>normsetiquette is probably the right word, whatever
>>48674596>>48674381
>>48674638答えでも答えてくれない？なにを言いたいのか分からない
>>48674722言葉*not 答え
答えになってませーん
>健気に助けを待ってるIs this "bravely waiting for rescue" or "waiting for heroic rescue"?
it would need to be 健気な for the second option
>>48674741Ah, you are right. Thank you.
>>48674741read this word wrong at first but then remember it was kenage (i mined it from kimi ni todoke)
>>48674737ni is adverbial na is adnominal
>>48674811yes true, well said well said
Why am I seeing people here now openly advocating for Duolingo in a non-shitposting way?
>>48674825duolingo is just a better version of core/taekim. no it won't make you fluent. but neither will the beginner materials that qm or shoui shills to you
>>48674825we've already reached the optimal methodology in 2020-2021, there was nothing but regressions that could follow
>>48674834>there was nothing but regressions that could followoh so that's why you keep updating your site
>>48674848sure you need some updates like someone makes a better core deck or a better version of another software comes outbut nothing is changed about the base flowasbplayer is pretty much my old anime mining workflow, it's not even faster because it requires replaying the video to record the audio which is literally what you had to do with my old workflow tooit's basically the sameasbplayer is nice because i can use it on jellyfin that's the biggest game changer for me but i haven't mined in some time now
>>48674848そいつらを得た
>>48674829>duolingo is just a better version of core/taekimIn what way?
>>48674825a couple of malicious posters are trying to kill this general
>>48674829the issue with stuff like duolingo is that it makes you jump through a bunch of hoops and perform stupid useless rituals making the absolute beginner phase last foreverthe learning meta is to make the beginner phase as short as possible which simply is get a rough understanding of grammar into your head, core vocabulary and start consuming japanese asap
>>48667388https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bh1nm7Ir8cits actually a song about QM
>>48674902Well the shotafag has been extremely obvious about it.
there have always been paid anki clone shills here its crazy niggas fall for them
>>48674907you can do the entire japanese course in one day if you want. stop making up lies to sell your bullshit. duolingo actually uses data to improve their product. you just guess and change at random and the result is a your server is full of dekinai
>>48674848owned lmao
heh, i get it
>>48674937nta but duolingo's goal is to have infinite retention, aka you'll never learn japaneseyou don't need to be 130iq to see this, baka
48i dont
>>48674953>aka you'll never learn japanesei already told you that here >>48674829
>>48674937okay, if you spend one day on duolingo i don't see the issue, go ahead and do that one dayevidently it's not equivalent to the beginner phase for consumption preparation as that takes longer than one dayto work through a 1-2k core deck and a solid grammar guide it takes longer than one day
>>48674966>to work through a 1-2k core deck and a solid grammar guide it takes longer than one dayno you *can* do those things in one day as well. my point isn't that you should try to do a course in one day. my point is that you make shit up and you have no idea what you're talking about
Why are you learning Japanese?
>>48674998I get to read porn while convincing myself it’s a form of intellectual growth and self-improvement. Best hobby possible.
>>48674977i've gone through the process myself and seen many other people do it and draw from the collective experience of all japanese learners i talked toso i think i know what i'm talking about
considering qm's one of 3 guys here who know jack shit i think he knows what he's talking about
qm laid the ground work, tatsumoto perfected it
>>48675052is something distracting you right now? it doesn't seem like you can follow this simple conversation. you made up shit about duolingo and got called out for it. that's what i'm talking about.>the collective experience of all japanese learners i talked toduolingo has more and better data than you
>>48675096duolingo doesn't optimize it's app for language learning resultsit collects data to maximize profit and revenue flow, if slowing your learning progress aligns with higher profits they will do exactly thatcrazy world where people want to trust private corporations with data they don't even see more than real people with a shared interest and more experience
>>48675193nice, so you just go right back to making shit up right after i called you out 3 times.same old grifter
>Duolingo shill is a schizo
>>48675193>if slowing your learning progress aligns with higher profits they will do exactly thatschizo
>>48675238Retard
>>48675198duolingo is the grift lol
>>48675247>>48675251sorry but you don't get banned for calling out qm's lies here. go back to your discord if you wanna believe everything he says
qm won
>>48675257Take your fucking meds
duolingo is targeting 100iq and that's a factas a fellow 130+ i have better learning methods to use, such us 90s eroge
>>48675273eroge is something you read after doing beginner shit. qm's method is no different in that regard
>>48675273and lingodeer
>>48675265a free sub to his gf's of
>>48675266which medication makes made-up lies like >>48675238 turn into a reality?
>>48675287It's reasonable enough to assume considering the subscription is a monthly/yearly basis.
>>48675304it's a free app. 99.9999% of users don't pay anything. what a ridiculous statement, that just because something costs money that it must be harming you in some way on purpose. you have no evidence for your slanderous claims. you are literally a scammer trying to push your own cult's products/patreon
>>48675351Stop talking like a shill faggot>your own cult's products/patreonI don't know who the fuck you think I am. Go take your meds, you delusional schizo
>Duolingo is really good
>>48675381very old screenshot. and anyway, you just click the flag button and they fix it. instead of waiting years and years for randos to make a "new improved core deck" that still has problems in it. don't even get me started on tae kim's terrible lessons
>>48675388>very old screenshotIt was posted by someone less than 10 hours ago, you lying fucking faggot>instead of waiting years and years for randos to make a "new improved core deck" that still has problems in itThis isn't even a real problem and you know it
>>48675402if it isn't a new problem then why do they make a new "best" core deck every 2 years?
you can just edit the anki card yourself when you notice something
>>48675413>complete beginners should just write their own learning materialsi know you're not kidding because that's actually how they think. literal who n5s make the beginner decks. nukemarine even made a business out of it
I've never seen a single success story where the person credited Duolingo with being a major factor.
>>48675423what? i mean editing some wording like in that duolingo example
>>48675427i have, at a much better rate than people who do core and tae kim. and again, neither will take you to fluency. if you only stick to beginner materials you are doomed no matter what you do.
>>48675444No you haven't
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>>48675459malicious
>>48675351>99.9999% of users don't pay anything.Are you planning on backing this up with some sort of source?
The faggot shilling Duolingo is the same shotafag who has been deliberately trying to shit up the general for weeks now. Literal faggot
shotafag is mlen btw
