have you ever browsed 2chan, futaba, or other Japanese image/textboards?what's the most interesting thing you've seen there?how different is the culture and mindset of 2channers and futaba users from ours?i’ve seen some threads on 2chan here before, but just a note for jannies: these boards are very niche Japanese media and often linked to otaku stuff like touhou. hope this thread is okay
>>49919094Kuma
Doesn't hero own 2chan too? I wonder what the moonrune speaking anons think of him
>>49919347its a long history but yeah he created and owns itthe biggest difference is that unlike 4chan, 2chan is a textboard, which is why SJIS art were so popular over there, it was either that or linking images on another websitethey also have one trillion boards
2chan is not 2ch/5ch, I thought this was basic knowledge around here
>>49920848i know about the 2ch/5ch drama but i thought 2chan was just another name for 2ch.
>>49919094i'm in the oekaki threads of futaba sometimes and theyre good
>>49920991some drawings there are pretty cute
>>499209242chan aka futaba is an imageboard that 4chan aka yotsuba is based on. 2ch/5ch are text only boards.
Something interesting about futaba is that they have a slower serious touhou board and another one just for touhou shitposting which is faster. I guess most gyates come from there
>>49924325
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>>49919094>what's the most interesting thing you've seen there?I've started lurking futaba recently, and some of the things I've noticed is that there is a guy (group?) on nijiura that likes to spam random threads with scat images. the report queue is also just a public board with image uploads disabled, and sometimes some angry toshiaki will jump in there to shit it up yelling at the admin for one reason or another.
>>49926161I see people spamming "del" in these type of threads and others they dislike
>>49920494hiroyuki doesn't own 2chan.
>>49921444NTA but I've seen 2channel/2ch pronounced as 2chan (ni-chan).I could be wrong, but other than being hosted on the domain 2chan.net, Futaba doesn't seem to have any association with the name 2chan.
>>49928827probably true for Japanese, but we aren't Japanese are we
>>49924325God I wish we had a system like that. Shitpost threads, rare lore threads and the gameplay general all just get thrown in the pile.
>>49926161>I've noticed is that there is a guy (group?) on nijiura that likes to spam random threads with scat imagesWhy do you think it's called shitposting?
>>49928908/jp/ is the shitpost board for /a/ and /v/, giving it board for further shitposting would just be /bant/ or /s4s/
>>499288914chan anons refer to both websites indistinctively because they only have only a vague idea of what they are, if they even realize they are two distinct websites at all.
>>49919094I've poke my head in on futaba's neko board once in a blue moon. You don't have to be good at reading Japanese to enjoy cats.
>>49928891I don't think that's the case for anyone in this thread, but this might be one of the boards with the most japanese users or lurkersI've met some toshiaki who lurk here from time to time. they really like some threads like /fumo/I hope at least one of them see this thread, would be funny
>>49928960Thanks for the input /v/irmin.
>>49919094>what's the most interesting thing you've seen there?some anon linked it here a while ago, someone was spamming the 虫 board with CPit was up for a few days too
>>49929343kek there's CP on that board right now too
>>49929386How do people even get that shit?
>>49929425and the post is up since August 25thdo they even have jannies over there ?
>>49925023Kino
5ch touhou board is quite dead, there are some threads about an old troll that spammed in touhou 2ch board, quite funny to see how they have stupid conflicts as well
>>49930159Pretty good taste in images tho
>>49929459did you report it?
>>49919094Every time I visit 2chan it feels like stepping into some strange alternate universe. I recently learned that they have a still-active community and wiki around a random post from 2006 where someone asked what you would do if your Bulgarian relative died and a 10-year-old futa orphan girl showed up with only an M1911, 5 kilos of weed, and a stuffed rabbit:https://w.atwiki.jp/bulfuta_second/pages/18.html
>>49919347 meI almost forgot about 2channel and 2chan being different sites,desu they sound similar so...Still do 2ch anons like hiromoot?
https://wiki.bibanon.org/2channelhttps://archive.ph/yrXQvInteresting stuff in english i found regarding hiro 2ch
Interesting orin found in 5ch
>>49929343>>49929386Futaba gets spammed with that shit too? I thought it was just altchans that suffered from that. Why are those bots so persistent?
>>49929425Third world internet. If internet access was only limited to first world countries, you'd never see CP spambots.
>>49934380Anon, futaba, 2ch and 5ch doesn't let you post without a japanese IPUnless these filthy bastards find a way to bypass it
>>49934358It's honestly just indiscriminate. It's hard to overstate how many bots are constantly trawling every inch of online space trying to weasel their way in every avenue possible. The ones you see making posts are but a miniscule fraction of how many are actively trying to tunnel into and exploit websites.
>>49934544VPNs
>>49934544anon, it worries me you don't know what a proxy is, or that you've forgotten VPNs are a thing now.
>>49934607>>49934636futaba has quite strong anti-vpn methods from what i remember, but that was probably more than 15 years ago or so then
>>49925023for what possible reason would someone draw Dragonite Daiyousei in the mech from Kirby Planet Robobot?
>>49935461Necause instead of asking why he thought to himself "What would be the funniest and most epic thing I can think of today ?"
>>49935485man they really are superior to us
are the japanese comfortable with 30 degrees?
>>49931123these are fun reads. I wonder what the stats are like 21 years later?
2ch in 1999
This board is the only place that reminds me of old 4chan and Futaba is the same.
>>49935910The Japanese summer is pretty similar to that of the US's east of the Mississippi river, albeit it the peak months vary a little in timing. Humid as hell, and sitting at 30-40 or higher when heat indexes get calculated. 30c is honestly very comfortable after peak summer passes. Even with a bit of humidity.
The Touhou boards are slower than some altchans. Did all the younger japs move to twitter and pixiv?
>>49919094(｢・ω・)｢
cute sanae found in 5chthe touhou board there is quite dead
>>49940615Wonder how hard Japan was also hit by having too many places to post about things, or if it's just twitter / twitterclones siphoning off posters.
>>49937694>>49940788i asked a toshiaki about it and he gave me a very detailed reply in a lot of futaba aspects, but ill translate the main reasons on futaba inactivity>The “Toshiaki” and other users of Futaba Channel have now created a refuge on other platforms, where they built a large community. The reason they created it is related to the fact that trolls were using bots and tools, making it impossible to have proper discussions, and the administration had abandoned self-governance. They moved their new order to another platform.>As for such platforms, as long as you follow the rules, you are accepted.>Just by being a Toshiaki, they are heavy users who visit various places. Some of them probably also interact with 5ch, so I don’t think they have a negative view of 5ch.as for 5ch touhou boards inactivity i dont really know, i just know that the most active boards there are the politic-themed ones
>>49941219I'm assuming they're keeping the links to those platforms a secret.
>>49941228some are and some aren't, you can see some discord groups being shared in some boards there from time to time (i know 4chan really hates discord but toshiakis and other japanese anons don't seem to really care, it's way nicher in japan than in the west afterall), but i assume some are, i've found some stuff related to futaba in niconico and twitter in the past, they were pretty small accounts but they had a loyal community around them
>>49941234he also mentioned that these toshiakis in most boards are way less conservative than they were in the past, accepting everyone as long as you follow the rules, even foreigners and beginners the only boards you may find some unsual toshiakis are the politic ones, their /b/ equivalent and perhaps the religion one
I heard they use talk.jp and bbs.shitaraba now.
>>49941858most japanese forums have the web design of news websites for some reason
>>49931010No they despise him and Jim Watkins both of which lie about the events that transpired between them.I don't want to link directly to the article because who knows how the mods will react but there's some stuff posted about it on the /www/ board on 22***n
some people in this thread seem to be confused about the japanese date system. Remember, it's year/month/day over there. So on some boards, like futaba's /b/ equivalent, things are pretty active. The '25' at the start of the posts means 2025, not the 25th day.same in 5ch and pretty much any japanese website
found this in 5ch wtf lol
>>49944809Looks like Reddit
This is futaba jurassic park
5ch has a lot of threads for touhou characters just like we have
Desu!
>>49953872Desu
>>49919094I browse 5ch on the regular but I've never been able to figure out 2chan.
Found these on futaba
>>49957415Oh that's gotta be a resin print->Bottom right panelsHOW
>>49957435He's known as the 5 yen coin toshiaki (despite not being a 5 yen coin)A very talented person
>>49958237Forgot the pic
>>49957435Superior nipponese craftsmanship. He folded that carving over 1000 times.
>>49957259by 2chan do you mean futaba or the original one created by hiro?futaba is easy to browse like 4chan, but 2ch is almost impossible nowadays, you can't even lurk without a japanese IPalso, a lot of boards are mirrored with 5ch
Found on their /b/ equivalent
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>>49934358kikes just love spamming everywhere with that shit
Toshiaki dinner
>>49961658MIKU!!!(dayo)
Come to Eddi/エッヂ. even if you don’t have a Japanese IP address you’ll probably still be able to post
>>49919094I lurk on 5channel because 2ch.sc blocks American weeaboo traffic.
>>49961911
>>49965972Found in 2hu board
I remember stumbling upon a thread on futaba about abuse on a fucking fish pokemon, just like their jissouseiki threads or our yukkuri threads.
The easiest way to recognize an image from futaba is if they have this red and yellow pattern in the backgroundI don't know the origin behind it, but it's their watermark in a way
>>49919347No it's owned by Jim W@tkins (this website filters his name for some reason) he's also the guy who hosted and was admin for the original 2chan back when the website was created around 1999. The servers were in California and hosted by his company N.T. Technology. The weird part about it is that Jim was active military at the time.
>>49979598Why does this feel like a copy of USENET/BBS ASCII? Kind of weird to think there was a widespread international Internet culture even back in the 90s.
so futaba is closest to this place? can't wrap my head around all that 2ch/2channel/5ch nonsense
>>49959808Even their /b/ is better than ours
>>499843692ch and 2channel are the same things. It's a text based forum (textboard) established in the 90's. 5ch/5channel was made after 2channel shut down somewhere in the late 2010's. (There's also open2ch which if I'm not mistaken was made in 2012 as an alternative to 2channel)2chan/Futaba is an imageboard and was made as a refugee site when 2channel was shut down in the early days, and yeah, it's probably the closest to 4chan.There's more imageboards besides Futaba, like Momi3. But I don't know if those are any more active than Futaba or if they have something to offer that Futaba doesn't. English imageboards typically cater to certain niches (for example we have an imageboard about Yume Nikki, an imageboard about Vocaloid, an imageboard about Touhou, an imageboard about poorly drawn bearded bald men with their mouths open). And I don't know if the Japanese have anything like that.
>>49984434nice summary, thanks anon-sensei. might try futaba for a bit
>>49985343By the way you can't post on these if you are not in a Japanese IP.
Why does 5ch have a board dedicated to cat torture videos?
>>49984415The language barrier protects them. We should make up a language for 4chan to keep people out.
>>49986481Because Japan lacks many laws that other countries have, notably animal cruelty, age, a very different idea of what 'consent' means, bestiality, etc. It's easier to ban foreign IPs then some random person in another country stumbling on animal torture videos and causing an international controversy over it. CP was completely legal in Japan until like 1999 and I don't think they fully banned it, there's tons of loopholes.
>>49962310Are you japanese? Never heard of this textboard before, but it looks quite activehttps://bbs.eddibb.cc/liveedge/1757470950I was able to post
>>49986481>It's realFuck, we should've have nuked them a third time
>>49987337>BeastialityDo nips actually try fucking their cats? I thought they hate them that much and would rather just burn them alive or something.
>ctrl+f animanch>no resultshttps://bbs.animanch.com/I like this site a lot recently.
Is there anywhere they talk about piracy outside the download board?
>>49988882First time i see a japanese anonymous BBS website with a like systemIt looks nice
>>49927737found an example lol
>>49988875I don't know. Do you think I want to fuck around and find out by downloading things off the Japanese net? The fact that they IP block porn websites so often is for your protection not theirs. I know they're not as bad as Chinese where you can find videos of them putting cats in blenders fairly easily, the first time I ever saw a Chinese in my life was some gore video of a prostitute crushing a kitten's skull with stiletto heels. I learned my lesson quick not to stray too deep into the Asian side of the Internet. If Japanese do it too I'm blissfully ignorant.
>>49988871It really disappointed me because I volunteer for cat shelters and work with Japanese people to combat Chinese cat abusers. They never once brought up that Japan has a problem too. I feel very naive.
>>49991393From what I've heard before, some nijiura boards are raided by trolls making low quality/inflamatory bait threads. Kinda lame since these board used to have a whole culture of their own, with lots of memes and stuff.
>>49990692girlschannel also has them, and futaba added them years ago apparently
>>49991924utaba and 2channel are the closest thing to useach board has a really consistent culture and userbaseunfortunately 2channel ended up dying basically and futaba is full of bots and trollsi'm not sure how many jannies futaba has, but it surely isn't enough
There is so much fucking AI slop in every board. Not even topical just sometimes random AI porn dumps between two threads about trains or whatever>>49992002>i'm not sure how many jannies futaba has, but it surely isn't enoughmost of the boards are covered in just the most inane spamThe ura boards seem to be the only ones with any activity, which makes sense in a way
>>49992310i remember seeing uma musume porn in the mahjong board lol
>>49919094I ran into a board about that one Japanese lawyer, where anons seem to post about every questionable thing he does and how they can harass him and besmirch his reputation. They also had an off-topic board for doxxing Cookie VAs/producers and some other NN/YT user that had caused a fuss on the platform. Kind of weird, but I assume it's not unlike Kiwifarms/Sharty as someone who's never really delved into either of them.
>>49991416>the first time I ever saw a Chinese in my lifeWhat backwater, third-world, worse-than-China hellhole did you scurry out from?
Why are the oldest threads on some boards from 2023? Do they just randomly add new boards that no one uses or do they just wipe them?
>>49992931It was like 15 years ago when China had the same reputation as India and when you looked up anything of them online it was either Liveleak gore or factory accidents. I don't think this is a unique experience if you've been terminally online since middle school.
>>49993073My middle school math teacher was Chinese, I don't get how you couldn't have honestly seen a Chinese person before then unless you live somewhere they never go or are like 10 and were never let outside your home.
>>49993155There's nothing but white people in my town, I live in Vermont.
>>49993189Seems pretty surreal to live in a place with no laundromats or egg rolls.
>>49993351There's not much of anything, why do you think I was terminally online to begin with? Picrel is the capital city of Vermont, now imagine what the towns look like.
>>49990692I feel like the posters there at least in the Gundam section are pretty hilarious I saved some threads like this one. https://bbs.animanch.com/board/3116045/I get a chuckle. You'll need to get a paid VPN to post there though as they range block like 4chan does and know the common ones.
>>49992442I mean where else but a horse's ass to put the mahjong board on.
>>49993717I want to fuck the horses while the yakuza watch
>>49987337>>49988875Dog jav were sold online on dmm with actual screenshots and everything until like 2010.
How did nijura react to the kirk assassination?Did the news even hit japan?
>>49995782>Did the news even hit japan?there's some people on talk.jp talking about it
>>49996215rink?
>>49996215they're blaming it on payoku, the cartels, and trump himself, this is amazing. it's almost like /pol/ but without the interracial porn.>>49996500https://talk.jp/boards/newsplus/1757539056
>>49996215>talk.jpNever heard of it. Funny how BBS haven't gone out of style in Japan, when it comes to discussing political/underground topics. There are tons of BBS dedicated to train molesting and crowd groping, for instance
>>49991911I'm sure they weren't taking advantage of you, best to not generalize.
Most of the pictures on Futaba Wallpapers board aren't high enough resolution for wallpapers lolThere are some beautiful ones, though.
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>>49994031Why did it stop?
I wonder how 2ch, 5ch, and Futaba are and were viewed in Japan.Apparently, 2ch was very mainstream despite all the drama around it.
I think we could also talk about Niconico and other jp otaku websites hereAnyways, here’s a pic of a Toshiaki Miku figure, found it on futaba toys board
>>499214441 = Hitotsuba2 = Futaba3 = Mitsuba4 = Yotsuba5 = Itsutsuba6 = Mutsuba7 = Nanatsuba8 = Yatsuba9 = Kokonotsuba10 = Tōba11 = Jūichiba12 = Jūniba13 = Jūsanba14 = Jūyotsuba15 = Jūgoba16 = Jūrokuba17 = Jūnanaba18 = Jūhachiba19 = Jūkyūba20 = Nijūba21 = Nijūichiba22 = Nijūniba23 = Nijūsanba24 = Nijūyotsuba25 = Nijūgoba26 = Nijūrokuba27 = Nijūnanaba28 = Nijūhachiba29 = Nijūkyūba30 = Sanjūba31 = Sanjūichiba32 = Sanjūniba33 = Sanjūsanba34 = Sanjūyotsuba35 = Sanjūgoba36 = Sanjūrokuba37 = Sanjūnanaba38 = Sanjūhachiba39 = Sanjūkyūba40 = Yonjūba
no, becuse they don't allow foreigners there, the japanese don't allow non-jap[anese in their online spaces
Every time I have used Japanese imageboards I am quickly confronted with three things:1) Japanese anons LOVE calling people they dislike cockroaches2) Threads are either stream of conscious gibberish or super serious with no inbetween3) Probably a generalization, but they tend to avoid talking about themselves, which I kind of admireOverall it's not really worth it to explore, unless you are into baseball or want to see the polar opposite opinions on certain topics like vidya or gambling.
here's some interesting 2ch stuffhttps://web.archive.org/web/19991111084554/http://2ch.net/ Homehttps://web.archive.org/web/19991111084554/http://2ch.net/2ch.html Navigationhttps://web.archive.org/web/19991127105923/http://www.2ch.net:80/test/read.cgi?bbs=company&key=930160212&ls=100 Read All pagehttps://web.archive.org/web/19991013094111/http://2ch.net:80/test/index.html Test board frontpagehttps://web.archive.org/web/19991013071111/http://2ch.net:80/dj/index2.html Actual board frontpagehttps://web.archive.org/web/19991013083424/http://2ch.net:80/test/bbs100.cgi Whatever the fuck this is, another board frontpage but blank and screwed uphttps://web.archive.org/web/19991012083346/http://2ch.net:80/lines.html ???https://web.archive.org/web/19991128113211/http://2ch.net:80/faq.html FAQhttps://web.archive.org/web/20000301163426/http://210.189.72.51/ and https://web.archive.org/web/20000301163426/http://ohayou.com/ two websites used as standings in the early days, https://web.archive.org/web/1999-2000*/http://210.189.72.51/*For what it's worth, here's a lot of archived 2ch threads (send a pic if you find an interesting one or so lol):http://gs2chlog.web.fc2.com/index.html
>>50003740>Overall it's not really worth it to explore, unless you are into baseball or want to see the polar opposite opinions on certain topics like vidya or gambling.im more interested in their culture and history to be honest
>>50000652>2ch, 5chSame site
>>499190945chan is good because they have threads where they vent about their life struggles but if you do that on 4chan people genuinely maliciously attack you for it. It makes no sense. It would be nice if 4chan had very specific boards like 5ch does for mental health and mind and religion etc.
>>50006075>It would be nice if 4chan had very specific boards like 5ch does for mental health and mind and religion etc.If they made a board like that here it would just become a safe for work /r9k/
>>50006075There was (and maybe there still is) a mental health check on /j/ :^)
>>50006089*mental health check Thread
>>50006087I guess so. It's just the way they describe their feelings about their struggles resonates with me sometimes. >>50006089What's /j/
>>50006116The janny/mod only board
It's pretty difficult finding a japanese proxy to post on futaba chan lately, I managed to find one and it barely lasted enough for me to do 3 posts.
Are there any old archives where you can search 2ch and Futaba threads?
>>50006075>threads where they vent about their life struggles>It would be nice if 4chan had very specific boards like 5ch does for mental health and mind and religion etc.These kinds of threads used to be allowed here (neet threads, ronery threads etc) now it seems only /v/ gets a pass sometimes and they suck. I'd rather discuss life shit with other /jp/sies instead of random individuals from other boards because their life experiences align with mine.
>>50002091It’s interesting to think of Yukkuris as a kind of love story between NicoNico and 2ch.They originally started as an ascii art, and then NicoNico spread it through game commentary.It’s really popular nowadays, there are lots of Japanese kids and teens who only know Touhou through Yukkuris
>>50009473Lots of stuff used to be on /jp/. I dunno what happened. Used to be a JRPG thread... and now that's /v/ exclusive. Then you had various hentai game threads, but now that's scattered everywhere. You had a thread talking about particular artists, then it faded. You had one specifically discussing Japanese memes, then it got killed. Discussing translated stuff/actually translating, you'd have a following here. Hikki threads too ( my favorite )It's all gone.You try making the thread, it dies pretty quick. Well, that's just how it is.
>>50009725I remember hikki threads being killed off, they were exceedingly dogshit quality-wise back then but nowadays they'd probably fit right now. Hell you can't get much worse than /djt/ or the other large thread which you can't talk bad about.The rest i'm pretty sure was just a lack of interest or people moving on. Hell we used to have MMO and fucking world of tanks threads and those simply faded away as people got bored.Japanese meme thread sounds kinda funny I might start that up later with mujina
>>50009725>>50009968just be careful with inmu, it's not usually allowed
>>50010092How, it's actual otaku culture.
>>50010100meidos tend to not like it much, i honestly don't know why exactly
>>49991911I'm sorry
>>500101002chan doesn't even like inmu posters, at least not the touhou boards
>>50010100>>50010092>>50010121It's because it's used as spam against spam posters rather than ever having legit threads
>>50010092what's inmu?deez nuts inmu face?
>>50010668The inmus won a war against the Aussies
>>50009725How many generals infest the board now? They definitely contribute with how more often than not they just kill off a slower thread when a new one is made. Especially when the idiots start infighting and start making multiple new threads because someone doesn't like or started fucking with their OP.Some topics which might take some time to gain traction, or are just naturally slow, don't stand a chance now unless someone babysits them.
>>50010668it's similar to the phenomenon that gachimuchi was, but inmu videos are more casual rather than featuring muscular men as their main appealthe original videos usually have worse acting and plots as wellMAD creators love it
2ch guide page translates into shitty google translate englishAnyone wants to see something in specific from here?
>>50014024Holy shit they have boards for EVERYTHING from izakayas, to 60+ posters, to debt lifeIm not joking
This is the first linked image i see while lurkingWtf is this? a VIP charge? (Their 4chan pass equivalent)
Toshiaki draws Miku
>>50018936I like the drawing threads, too bad they die so fast especially when I'm in the middle of doodling something.
>>50018939Your average toshiaki seem to be a very good artistIt's surprising
Green miku?
>>50020190I wonder if asians feeling like they come across as better at drawing is due to the language complexity. I was watching something recently about how the Chinese, and to an extent the Japanese, have a problem going on right now where they're forgetting how to write runes. Because of how their typing systems are set up, and it touched on how writing and drawing is handled by the same region in the brain, which is why it's easy to read a rune without being able to replicate it correctly. Like being able to see art and know what it is, but unable to draw it. Makes me wonder if being adept in a high kanji/hanzi count and being able to write them reflects a certain level of development in that part of the brain that carries over a bit in regards to art.
>>50020190It's even more crazy once you know how barebone and jank the built-in drawing software of futaba is. You should give it a try, you can use it and download your doodles without a Japenese IP.
>>50022898Definitely not. They are objectively worse at drawing, you just think the drawings are cute and are correct that cuteness/coolness are more important than proficiency and technical skill.
>>50023002Give the one on our own >>>/i/ a whirl
>>50006075> they have threads where they vent about their life struggles but if you do that on 4chan people genuinely maliciously attack you for it. It makes no sense.Not to sound like a /pol/tard, but it's genuinely because of the increasing 3rd world nature of the English speaking Internet.
>>50023960It's actually because 4chan isn't your blog nor your psych. People can go be sad and emo somewhere else.
>>50022898Could be.I kinda doubt asians are naturally gifted where it comes to artistic ability. I think it's more a natural grasp of aesthetics. Japanese, Chinese, etc. can all recognize a good artistic aesthetic and adopt it even if the execution is flawed. Among non-asians this is kinda rare. Like you can see this >>50020190 and you're like oh he's not just depicting the girl, he's using pastel colors, adding a little line weight at some hard/dark places, choosing a creative angle, etc. Its like asians really take joy in how the art looks whereas non-asians are racing to depict whatever the subject is, often doing the bare minimum just to make it resemble a girl or whatever. Most of them don't even try to make beautiful line/brush strokes, your art can't be pleasant to look at if the lines/brush strokes/colors that make it up aren't. There are definitely exceptions though.
>>50023960I get your point, but I think it has more to do with how Japanese society is structured around collectivism and harmony, while most of the world leans more toward individualism.People already act awful in real life, and a lot of those frustrated with it see “underground” internet spaces as places where they can act the way they really want to, without any filters (though sometimes they’re just trolling because they enjoy being assholes, like plenty of people are offline too).Even 2ch/5ch had its share of awful stuff, like the cookie scandals, akihabara massacre and the drama involving that certain fat lawyer for example.
https://archive.ph/20150921143305/http://archive.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2007/04/2channelFound this interesting 2007 news article on 2chSure, it might seem sensationalist, but I still found it interesting to see how the site was perceived at the time.
>>50023002Seriously, how?
>>50024083I wouldn't say people on 5ch or futaba are commiserating or offering their sympathies though.A lot of people make jokes at the OP's expense, acting all ironic and detached.There is a lot less hatred there compared to here though. Like there are so many hate-filled, spiteful people on the english web. There are hateful people on JP 'net too but the vibe there is so much calmer.I would disagree though that it comes from a sense of community. Even on Japanese internet, the old style of "online community" is kinda dying. Like it used to be that if you were venting on 4chan or VIP it was because you felt a real kinship with the people around you, but I think that's not really true anymore and no one feels kinship on these anonymous sites. You just use them because you have no one else to talk to.
>>49928908K**su is literally just /jp/ if it had sub-boards for specialised types of posting though while all the gaming /jp/sies have made the move. I notice a sad lack of lore discussion threads like we used to have here
>>49941234Is there any reason for the hateboner towards discord or is it just cause its not anonymous, genuinely wondering
>>50023960That's stupid, the whole phenomena of people wanting to be tough guys and attacking any signs of weakness has existed since this site began
>>50023992And that is why so many kids are now trannies.
>>50024510You're delusional for even implying this site would not have become yet another tranny/tranny-maker honeypot, had we ever had a blogpost board/threads
>>50024378There is sort of an invented perception that Discord servers are "secret clubs" that brigadge board. I find that to mostly be hot air and a convenient villain for 4chan overall just not being what it once was and anonymity/open air platforms not being a compelling draw. I do say 4chan because that's the point of reference we all have for imageboards, but >>50024244 gets it right that there isn't a cohesive community around most BBSes anymore. The remainders like refuge boards and offshoot altchans are fairly niche.
>>50024510That's because of anime and autism. Even Touhou encourages people to crossplay and animegao kigurumi is just outright trans-adjacent.
>>50024508No, it's true. Cruelty has always existed here, but you could at least have conversations outside of this board. This is impossible now without try-hard 3rd world trolls who call you a jew.
>>50024508Are you denying that the Internet has gotten worse since India logged in?
>>50025818nta but yes, along with all other larping-as-hwite, american obsessed 3rd world shitholes.
>>50025911(me)I am illiterate :^)
>>50025818It wasn't any group in particular. The internet has been bad since any idiot normie with a smartphone could be on it.
>>50025911If you seriously think the internet used to be a more “sympathetic” place, then you’re just too young and don’t know about things like an hero or never experienced people spending their days sending viruses to each other for fun, lolIt’s purely based on how individualistic the mentality is in a place, but even in more collectivist places there are still insane peopleThe main problem is the normalfag real life mentality taking over the internetPeople online nowadays are more worried about political crap than anime and otaku stuff
>>50026182>People online nowadays are more worried about political crap than anime and otaku stuffThere's also that, yeah. The line dividing IRL and Internet life/culture being erased, and the last decade or so forcefully shoving politics and idpol and into every topic/discourse
https://vgperson.com/talesof2ch.htmFound some funny 2ch threads translated in english
>>50025750I’m from a third world country (ukraine, historically a second world country, but let’s be honest, our situation isn’t like Poland or Slovakia), and unfortunately a lot of our people really are extremely politically aggressive online.But as that anon said >>50026182 I think it’s more of a global problem with how the entire internet is becoming politicized. I see plenty of first worlders like that too, from Germany to the US, and many even copy first world stuff even when they don’t make sense hereWhat I hate the most is how this has affected the whole internet. Okay, you want to talk about idpol shit? Talk about it all you want, just please don’t bring that into a place where people just want to talk about stuff like vocaloidEven the Japanese internet has been affected by this, 5ch is mostly known for political discussions nowadays, whereas back in the day 2ch was about everythingIm honestly just tired of hearing this kind of stuff all the time, I just wanna talk about niche stuff with random people no matter where they're from
>>50026457yay, love vgperson
>>50026252Honestly, at this point it feels impossible to go anywhere without hearing about some bullshit from the real world, along with people making thousands of the unfunniest memes and jokes about it.
>>50026638>Im honestly just tired of hearing this kind of stuff all the time, I just wanna talk about niche stuff with random people no matter where they're fromIt seems political stuff is the only thing that has any momentum, energy, or wheels nowadaysBack 10+ years ago, it was normal to have movies, games, TV shows, etc. be the biggest thing in pop culture but these days that's rare. Celebrities have been replaced by politicians, and the current gen of musicians and actors don't come anywhere near the fame of past generations. Japanese internet feels kinda similar. But at the same time, they're not nearly as political as the west. Idk, I feel the main attitude in Japan is some kind of boredom or ennui really. A lot of them seem so bored
5ch board for +60 or older people is interestingmost threads are generals; there are anime generals, music generals, generals about the showa period, etcthere's your casual blogposting such as "today i bought the last car of my life"some depressing threads such as "nothing is fun anymore"and for some reason there are some sexual threads such as "have you been having sex recently?" or "i fucked pussy today!" lmao
I wish I spoke and read Japanese. I took the language courses for years in high school and college but the grammar and vocabulary never stuck for me.
>>50026457Did this break between now and you posting it? None of the posts.php links resolve.
>>50027524I had it saved in an old internet archive, and yeah, unfortunately they aren’t working right now. They were working about a week ago though… hopefully it’s just temporary.
how come the internet outside japan forgot such a basic concept?this message is in 5ch FAQ
>>50027794I'd hazard a guess because it doesn't feel like trolling anymore in many cases. It feels like people that should have been gatekept just being retarded, then it falls into the whole "If enough people act like retards actual retards will think they're welcome" idea. It's still a valid question though, because when you spot an actual troll out in the wild they just dance around people effortlessly and get their fill and then some.
>>50025750I read a local imageboard based in a white european country. You still get called a jew.
>>50028217Because the problem at its core isn't the countries people are from, it's the age range. It's the current group of people in their late adolescence/early adult lives that are dragging babby's first political grift wherever they go.
https://itest.5ch.net/medaka/test/read.cgi/offmatrix/11864855472ch thread from 2007 where lucky star fans planned an irl meetup on washinomiyaThey used to have hundreds of threads about the show like this one in piccrelI think konata is shown actually using 2ch on an episode
>>49934810residential vpns are a thing now.those are harder to block.
>>50027311Not that it was ever good, but why is it so shitty? Did Cartoon Network fund its new season or something?
>>50028926https://kako.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1186439200/ here's a link to piccrel thread when new episodes were still releasing (you can only access it with a computer)
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>>50030195
https://kako.5ch.net/anichara2there are 2002 archived threads here
>>50030269This is just the archive for the anime characters board, sorry.https://kako.5ch.net/ this is the full archive for most boards
the /english/ board is hilariousthis thread is from 1999
Some boards changed the name anonymous to something related to the boardOn the Minecraft board, for example, the default name was Creeper
>>50018939>>50020190>>50022898>>50023002>>50024150see>>50031377
>>50031392Thanks for giving out more details anonBtw there's a thread on futaba vocaloid board with lots of these right now
Does anybody know who this guy is?This whole board is just caricatures of one or two specific nerds. http://zip.2chan.net/11/futaba.htmAny info on them? I normally don't beg for sauce but I've done my own research so many times, and never found anything
>>50034290One of the biggest benefits/pratfalls of Futaba Channel is its self moderation. Users can create threads and delete replies that are off topic. Users can also "del" a post where it can be quarantined and removed. Rarely, if ever, do real mods step in. And given the "respect" level of Japanese people, you would expect people to act proper and accordingly.However certain boards, especially some slower ones, get plagued with off topic vandalism and spam. That board is supposed to be for posting original drawings, but its mostly off topic shit. Mods don't clean up the mess and since the board is sorta dead there are not enough people around to "del" and help self moderate. Take what I say with a grain of salt though, this is only what I have seen for my years lurking the site and what I can assume.It's handy to browse the site using Chrome or a Chrome based browser since you can translate entire pages to English. There is also this homepage that is English translated.https://futabachannel.neocities.org/
>>50034290I've been seeing him all the time as well lolfrom my guesses he is an anti-Korean caricature, I don't know if it's against an old Korean poster with a proxy or against Koreans in general, but these are always portrayed with their flagsthe Toshiaki are generally nice people, but some of them hate the Chinese and Koreans on levels impossible to explain lmaomaybe I could ask some Toshiakis I know about it, I'll do so and be back with replies soon
>>50034290>>50034445Im back, Sorry for the late replyThis is one of the replies i got, well summarized but without many details>This image is used in relation to trolling on Futaba. It’s better not to bring this up since it could cause trouble. On Futaba, mentioning this is considered trolling.The man seems to be a weird caricature of the protagonist of "taekwondar park"
>>50035624Kind of a bum this stuff is flooding an OC creation board of all things.
>>50035773I guess it's their equivalent of basedjaks Ugly, humorous drawings that people keep posting all the time as if it were a cult.Well, at least you can see some pretty stuff from page 4 onwards, piccrel for example>>50034438Another interesting thing about futaba is that they don't seem to have the concept of sfw and nsfw boards; nsfw content seems to be allowed on all boards there
>>50009725I miss NTR threads. I hope it can be revived someday.
>>50035849>they don't seem to have the concept of sfw and nsfw boards; nsfw content seems to be allowed on all boards there4chan was the same way until a certain faggot former admin got mad that people were posting anime porn on /a/ instead of /h/. Separating it from /b/, making certain boards "sfw", separating all the fun posts from it into /jp/ and making /jp/ worksafe, he really ran this site into the ground in the name of his stupid weebtoons board. And the end result is that it is still shit and unusable.
>>50035773>OC creationI've always wondered how there were so many talented artists doing SQL/oekaki shit, and made that their whole identity. One of my hobbies is looking for manga artist's pennames for taboo doujinshi and shit, and I have my suspicions that 4n was just Tsukushi drawing oekaki.
>>50036505>And the end result is that it is still shit and unusable.more like it went to shit 3 years after all the other ones did lol
Who is replicating whom??https://nozomi.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/ana/1749493652/ (jp ip needed to read)https://medaka.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ana/1749493652/
>>50044785well anon, in this specific case, the 2ch thread has a link to 5ch, so yeah, 2ch is mirroring 5ch.i liked that you asked this though; it’s interesting to mention that most boards on 2ch nowadays are direct mirrors of the same boards from 5ch. also, 5ch hosts very old 2ch and even other japanese textboard archives. it’s a complete mess, to be honest.2ch has few boards where it doesn’t have mirroring content; 厨房！板 and some ascii boards are good examples:http://toro.2ch.sc/kitchen/the board I just linked was made for 2ch newfags, you can see some funny stuff there. others in the same category tend not to be mirrors as wellhowever, besides all this, i’m not sure if there’s a way to fully verify whether a thread is from 5ch or 2ch, unfortunately…
>>50045363For everyone's benefit it's also worth mentioning the Wayback has picked up 2ch before, so it can be useful to check.https://web.archive.org/web/20140323015347/http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1394956912/
>>50046753thank you very much anon, i didnt knew about that.also, great historic thread. was /operate/ their /q/ equivalent?
>>50048059That's a fair comparison, yeah, though I think it was really intended to be more informational than a meta board of sorts. There's a Wikipedia article about the different 2ch/5ch management boards.https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%81%8B%E5%96%B6_(2%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD%E3%82%8B%E3%83%BB5%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AD%E3%82%8B%E3%82%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%B4%E3%83%AA)
>>50048088I forgot that they had to request their posts to be deleted.I think it's still like this on 5ch to this day
does kako have every single 2ch thread in existence or at least the pre-2010 ones?
>>50020190Bad japanese artists don't exist
>>50048692>at least the pre-2010 ones?i dont know if they have every single thread, but they have archived threads even from the late 90s>>50030370this one for examplelet me share the link to the /english/ board archive, you can see how old most threads arehttps://kako.5ch.net/english
>>50049225you can even find hiro there (he created 2ch while studying in arkansas)
i thought futaba flash board was going to be like our /f/, but no, its just a normal board where people post a picture or video of some flash game/animation alongside the link
>>50049800fix your font
>>50049800>>50049859https://fonts.aahub.org/
>>50049800Maybe that's what's 4chan should have done instead of nuking our /f/.
>>50050827Then it'd just be /gif/. I know everyone hates ultchinz but he&%$i's /f/ has potential and already houses 50% of the users from 4/f/; which is to say about 5 people, but I can't think of any other flash-centric board that receives daily posts besides swfchan on a good day. Also the OC flow is more regular than it was on 4chan, which is a huge plus. The only thing it's missing is the weekly traditional spam (miku monday, thursgays, 2hu tuesday, etc.) and shit like Monday Approaches.swf because unlike our /f/, threads never expire, they just get bumplocked.
>>50049248>ArkansasThat's kinda funny, Arkansas is the last place I would expect someone from Japan to wind up in for study.
>>50049859>>50050538which one do you use? sorry for the late reply
>>50051327>>50051327Hiro has (or had? he hasn’t posted since 2023) a personal blog with a very old web design. When he bought this site from Moot, he wrote a summary of his life in English. It’s pretty interesting and quite useful for this thread.http://hiro.asks.jp/93612.htmlI don’t know what he was studying in Arkansas, but he mentions it thereI also remember he shared that blog here when Billy Herrington died, with a text written in both Japanese and English
>>50052867>I don’t know what he was studying in Arkansas, but he mentions it thereHe was under an IEP. This is a funny acronym because that's usually a special needs thing in American public education, but for UCA, it's the Itensive English Program: https://uca.edu/iep/At Chuo University in Tokyo, the three years he mentions in this post, he studied psychology.Confirmed by his Facebook page (Google it, caught as spam here).This post is pretty funny though. There's very little you'd need to update a decade on to have a holistic view of Hiroyuki, other than he spends most of his time on YouTube and ocassionaly making public appearances as a Japanese net wunderkind or a Shapiro-like debate bro.
>>50052867>with a very old web designThe whole website looks like that actuallyI thought it was one of those blog websites where every page was customizable
have you been able to find any good Gravure threads there? or are they all japan ip only?
>>50052760>which one do you use?My preferred font is Saitamaar.https://fonts.aahub.org/font/6
>>50053961Hey it's yaruo.
>>50053726You can find them under:https://fate.5ch.net/idol/ Sometimes, they show up here, too:https://rio2016.5ch.net/model/
>>49992442Mahjong games have always been a staple of otaku erotocism so that's how it should be.
>>50053961thank you very much.i downloaded it>>50052916It’s kinda hilarious how your average 4channer sees Hiro as just the guy who bought 4chan while in Japan he’s basically a celebrityI know he’s quite controversial for constantly debating like you mentioned, but I don’t know much about his views. Most of what I know is that he’s a free speech absolutist and such, and the only phrase I remember from him is: "well, that’s just your opinion."He also lives in Paris nowadays, people often joke that he went there because of how many lawsuits 2ch had accumulated.When you actually see how many of them there were you stop thinking it’s just a joke lmao
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>>50053961it's working i guess
>>50054639To really test it, you have to see how posts that use the sjis tag look. For example, >>50054300 should look something like the attached pic.
>>50053726It's not 2ch/5ch, but this gravure imageboard has been around for ages. Each board used to have its own domain like white-bbs.com and black-bbs.com, but now it's all here:https://fob.jp/bbs/.
>>50057412Piggybacking to mention this is a pretty comprehensive antenna that I've seen updated since about 2009: https://www.adultgazobbs.com/It's probably better to think of their Futaba and 5ch boards as equivalent to our /e/ and /h/, so not exactly all that active. There are a lot of niche boards still chugging along.
it is getting harder to use a vpn always on to browse the internet, so many sites are blocking now, I had my mullvad on with Osaka IP and Reddit wouldn't even load, I wish we could go back to 2007 internet
>>50055261looks like this with 110% zoom
>>50059009i use openvpn+softether to browse japanese sns, it works pretty good considering its all free
>>50059293Looks good.
I usually browse the announcer and indie idol boards using jdimhttps://github.com/JDimproved/JDimWhen I want to post something, I open the thread in browser since jdim doesn't yet support input of proxy username and password.Here, all the posts with image and mp4 links are mine:https://medaka.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ana/1749300015/432-444
>>50059455>JDim (JD improved) は gtkmm/GTK+ を使用した"２ちゃんねる"型マルチスレッドBBSを閲覧するためのブラウザです。Any screenshots?Didn't know the API and stuff had opened up again. https://agree.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/9240230711/
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>>50059599It'd be really cool some day to see all these browsers compared. Most of them are basically IE wrappers and are designed like email clients, but it's a little fascinating how many there are and to compare how we mostly developed userscripts for supplemented functionality. Some of them have the same 4chanX-style of interoperability where they support other websites that use the same underlying software.
How was the reception to Touhou 20 on the Japanese end? Do the newhus have any staying power?Actually I'm kind of curious what they thought of 19 too. Were they as disappointed as I was?
>>50059622>Most of them are basically IE wrappers and are designed like email clients,what's nice about JDim is that there's no browser engine. It's just a GTK window displaying text and images with widgets and popup menus, kind of like emacs, so it's very lightweight. Really, JDim could probably be rewriten in elisp as an emacs package with nearly the same layout and functionality as what's in these screenshots. https://taipapamotohus.com/post/imagedired/
>>50059868>It's just a GTK window displaying text and images with widgets and popup menusthe ui is so outdated. it should adopt libadwaita and be rewritten in a safe language like rust.
>>50060323most japanese websites are like that to be fair
>>50061299wrong reply? i didn't say a word on the website.
>>50061441oh, i'm really sorry, indeed wasit was meant for >>50052917
All boards on Futaba seem to have schizosI read on a board that it's a 60 year old mentally ill man who was once arrested for rape and now has the hobby of ruining Futaba.
>>49979584Jim Watkins
first thing i see on futaba games board
>>50063197good thread
>>50026638>Im honestly just tired of hearing this kind of stuff all the time, I just wanna talk about niche stuff with random people no matter where they're fromI know how you feel bro. I'm starting to think the only solution is to join small private communities, since public communities will always have assholes coming in and derailing the conversation.
>>50065102I've been saying for some time now that we accidentally slipped back into the 1980's, where all the mainstream and public stuff is super lame, and all the cool people are hiding underground & to get into their groups, it's usually from adding people off multiplayer games or off art rating sites like letterboxd, backloggd, rateyourmusic, or off twitter if the space you're dealing with is pretty small & easy to get recognition in for just messaging people and doing small little contributions. Formerly cool spaces like 4chan have been gentrified, goth clubs IRL are now filled with frat bros, and politics is everywhere. I miss old /jp/ where people would casually drop knowledge on tea ceremonies, history, obscure otaku stuff etc. Those people still exist who have this knowledge but they're hard to find now. I wish I could make them gravitate towards me
>>50065102Modern internet really makes one realize how important "no politics" was as like, the most common rule you would see within any social avenue, regardless of your stances. You really see the importance of such a rule existing, especially in retrospect. Since once it starts having any leniency allowed, it's like a catastrophic damn failure. There's just too many people online now. I don't know if it's an age thing, for both the really young and fairly old, not having a reference for what online etiquette used to be, but it's a bit depressing at times.
>>50065159Altchans fill that niche for me. Any well moderated altchan can usually be a good place to visit.>>50026638People love to involve politics where it doesn't really belong. I don't want to be constantly reminded about nor engage in contemporary politics.
>>50065159Weebs are pretty shit at history, there's never been a point where I've heard someone casually drop something on history that impressed me apart from that one Puerto Rican on /int/ that infodumped the Haibutsu Kishiaku. Every single time a weeb tries to flex on history I've found it's like a 5 minute search away from being dispelled as romantic nonsense or full blown Jesuit propaganda, I've been on this website since 2006 it's too consistent a trend for me to wax nostalgic on it even if it has gotten worse in regards to politics being in everything.
>>50026638The problem is that politics is causing a lot of our hobbies to get attacked and censored or "westernized" to fit politics. Too many weebs brought up brainwashed by western social media think they need to bring their complaints and criticisms to Japanese culture and demand change. We are kind of forced to fight their woke politics by getting political back in our quest for them to just leave Japanese culture alone to be Japanese culture.
>>49919094on /vt/ we have screenshots exchanged whenever some big event happen
Might be interesting to some but there is a translation for the Karasawa Shingyo video: https://22chan.org/UserMedia/uploads/Karasawa_Shingyo-fc5612b3.mp4
>>50069731Holy shit, great find anonI watched the original a few years ago but have never seen it translatedI can’t deny I feel bad for this man. Messing with mentally ill Japanese hikikomori is probably the worst thing you could do on the internet
>>50069731>and a iiniku creampieno...
>>50069731>>50070180LmaoWhat's the story behind this?
>>50069731another tl from the same place
>>50068315I understand, opposing tourists who try to import their values into Japanese media is important. The problem is when non progressive tourists encounter this stuff and start acting the same way progressives doIt’s rarer than progressives complaining, but I’ve seen these “ultra-trad” types opposing "fanservice", hentai, and similar things.They also make strange analogies claiming certain otaku content is meant to support their ideology, even when it makes no sense (kind of like when people claim certain things are trans analogies lol)Or they suddenly bring up politics and identity politics in our circles for no reason, even when it doesn’t fit.I think we as foreigners should just observe and appreciate Japanese culture through its own lens as much as possible. Japan’s uniqueness comes from how beautifully preserved its culture is after being isolated for 300 years. We shouldn’t try to influence it at all.Of course, you’re free to voice your dislikes, but remember your opinion carries no weight for the Japanese and is purely personal.Also, it’s best to avoid politics in otaku spaces unless it’s to oppose people trying to inject politics there in the first place, of course
>>50070939Around mid 2011 there was this teenage tripfag on 2ch (he was more active on the baseball board if I’m not mistaken) who was always irritating others and bragging about being the best, typical dumb teenager you find on chansOne day, during one of his bragging moments, he posted a link to a photo of a document proving he had been accepted to a certain university. An hour later, people had already discovered his identity and which university he was attending, and he began to be heavily mocked.In a desperate move, he hired lawyer Karasawa (the target of the video), who claimed to be a specialist in digital crimes but knew nothing about 2ch.He barely knew how to use 2ch, but once he learned the basics, he began publicly describing his process on 2ch itself.Anons started mocking him, he demanded the removal of those postsAs a consequence of all this, he became a complete joke, and his life turned into hellHe is the biggest lolcow in JapanPeople put drawings of his face everywhere across Japan, created a meme religion about him, spread rumors that he had participated in Aum Shinrikyo and was a convicted terrorist, threatened political figures and public buildings in his name, made school threats in his name that caused over 400,000 students to miss classes, desecrated his family grave, forced him to move houses countless times, made hundreds of death threats to him, and more They even got him banned from traveling to America.Everything you can think of, they’ve done it.He even appeared on Japanese TV debating with Hiro, and Hiro said he has some responsibility for it.Some stuff in the video such as "idol lawyer" is because he followed dozens of idols, and the joke about his "brother’s murder" is actually because his brother committed suicide if I’m not mistaken.The School Turd joke is also a reference to a famous 3D animation of him having diarrhea at school
I have stumbled upon a website called po-kaki-to .com and I find it fascinating but still there is too much gore for my taste. Anyone know any Japanese blog/content aggregator website like this website? I like when the content is like on a red board here but still, I don't like seeing gore. Can be only porn
>>50071942Ah lmao. Thanks.
>>50072169fag
>>50072169it is good to see old school independent sites to spend our time on instead of the stupid massive social media sites that are taking over everything
>>50071489agreed, the scary thing is the world is getting crazy as we lose our internet freedoms. the UK has been strongly trying to mess with Japan for years and now they have turned rogue on their own citizens and want to bring the whole world with them. I miss the world of 20 years ago
>>50071489Beautifully put! It doesn't matter what "side" you're on, nobody should shoehorn western politics and values into otaku spaces.
>>50072169I went on it and it feels like the Japanese equivalent of Heavy-R. Type of shit that shouldn't turn you on but does or appeals to people with hyper specific fetishes
>>50030296Is there another archive for 5ch? They're hard to find. This one doesn't have much only stuff from the year 2000 for the hgame board and it doesnt have dates either
>>50077838I found some, but I don't know how good they areYou can search for what you're trying to find on themhttps://kakolog.jp (pretty sure this one has the same logs as kako.5ch, the difference is that you can search here)https://zzzsearch.com/2chhttps://search2ch.info
>>49941219I thought the most active boards there are the livestreamer/vtuber boards.
>>50078648I found a website called Futapo, which is the closest thing to our 4statshttps://futapo.futakuro.com/ranking/It shows the top 50 active threads. The board with the most popular threads is Nijiura May, followed by Nijiura Img, and then Hololive.I’m sorry for my mistake. Futaba has become more political in the last decade, but I confused it with 5ch when it comes to the most active boards.
>>50078810for the record, nijiura may and nijiura img are like /b/
This was the only good thread on /jp/ in like a fucking decade. Fuck this board.
>>50078920ok weeb. keep admiring otaku culture from afar instead of engaging in it.
>>50079161Engaging on a board where image dumps pass for culture? Please. No context = no discussion. You only get discussion after threads like this, when people pick up the basics, unless a shitty Touhou thread bumps it off first.
New thread?
>>50079246Yes, please. It might be useful to compile some information from this one into the new one, or at least link to it.
>>50079235Ah yes, the touhou threads that take a month or two to cycle and not the 20 or so generals that are constantly running everything else off the board.
>>50079288Funny you mention that. Threads like this probably survive now because half the Touhou spam packed up for some obscure altchan and more people are interested in things beyond Touhou. I was here many years when Touhou dominated this board and trying to discuss anything else got hostility or silence. So fuck you.
>>50079302>>50079235Going to let you in on a spoiler. The touhou threads are slide threads for the generals. Every time one is nearing image limit, all the touhou threads mysteriously get bumped with the post deleted so one of the overgrown generals dies faster. The few clueless newfags who do post in them probably have no idea, theres more actual character and lore discussion in unspecific touhou threads rather than the character slide threadshttps://warosu.org/jp/thread/50048869#p50073004https://warosu.org/jp/thread/50063157#p50072994https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49974252#p50072981https://warosu.org/jp/thread/50046237#p50072449https://warosu.org/jp/thread/50004299#p50072441https://warosu.org/jp/thread/49887893#p50072434It used to be worse a couple years ago, before that feature that got added specifically only for /jp/ to auto-archive threads that hit 1k posts.Not even the first time /jp/ is used as a testbed for new board functions. Hell we got webms before anyone else on the site, and an increased image limit when it used to be 150 globally.
>>50079422Thanks for the info. I am not sure how long this has been going on, but even before vtubers hijacked this place, with fewer generals, it was not any better.
>>50079246>>50079249I was going to ask if you guys would like a new oneI enjoyed talking with you guys, and there’s still a lot more we could discuss about Japanese otaku SNS culture in generalWhen this thread gets archived, I’ll eventually create a new one, I’m just thinking about how I should write OP text next time
>>50079670Maybe "Japanese net culture" is more total, but I think the current subject is fine too. I think anyone entering these threads is likely most interested in the historical aspects of bulletin boards like 2ch/5ch/Futaba while SNS encompasses things with more modern relevancy like Xitter and Insta. There's probably room in either approach to discuss the long tail of things like independent BBSes.
>>50079670its going to take some time.
great thread, good info!
>>50082640True, thanks anon, I’ll keep that in mind.I think there are also other Japanese websites that were historically very important to otaku culture, such as Niconico. I’m guessing people will probably end up mentioning them sooner or later.
>>50078815As in schizophrenic hellscape of cancer?
>>50082771just the fact that anything goes there
>>50079302>Touhou spam packed up for some obscure altchanwhere?
>>50082780How cancer do you think are the boards
>>50082711That's certainly more in my wheelhouse, though 2ch and Nico are of course sister sites. It seems a lot of the west's interest in Nico ends at Kumikyoku, while obviously here 2ch kicks up a lot of interest because it's another BBS. Don't want to self promo but I have written a lot about both elsewhere since they are very linked.Nico is astoundingly well documented thanks to Nicopedia so even the minutiae is pretty accessible to anyone who's independently curious, at least.
>>50082882Hard to know, most of Futaba seems chaotic but most users seem nice. They seem to have a strong sense of community. The only thing that makes certain boards cancer are trolls whose only purpose in life is to shit up Futaba. For example, there’s a guy who spams scat and even illegal content there. Some people found out he’s apparently a schizo 60 year old man who got 7 years in prison for rape in the past. He’s been doing this shit for literally years for some reason.
>>50082915>Don't want to self promo but I have written a lot about both elsewhere since they are very linked.Can you tell me the name of the site so I can look it up? Im interested in reading it>Nicopediai read stuff there from time to timeits great.
>>50083045Sounds like a standard general thread on most of 4chan.
i think we can create a new one already
>>50087332please do!
