/jp/ is pretty contrarian when it comes to Touhou so I'm curious what hot takes (You) have about Touhou as a whole (games, fanworks, fandom, etc.)
Suika getting Mizuchi killed in probably the most brutal and painful way depicted in the entire series ruins her character. Yeah no wonder she was a pissed off spirit that almost destroyed Gensokyo, she was betrayed and eaten alive without ever understanding why.
I do not care for Koishi
tranny thread
>>50122622Not sure if this is a hot take but I wish there was male characters in the game, even if just a few. I know ZUN said they would look out of place, that he's not good at drawing and creating/expressing boys, and that Danmaku is more beautiful in a feminine way but it would still be cool to see male characters and the ways they'd come up with their attacks, like, just because it's a feminine thing doesn't mean only women can do it. Like, why doesn't Rinnosuke try Danmaku?
>>50122829i'd like more men but only in the vein of like unzan, less humanized and more monster/youkai like
ZUN needs to zip it with the topical surface-level commentary. Bro you're a drunk Japanese programmer, not South Park.
Reading 100,000 pages about Gensokyo won’t save you if you can’t even 1cc Lunatic (which is laughably easy), you’re just a secondaryThe chart is (assuming these people never touch games in the same genre):-1 N1CC = Spectator-5–10 N1CC = Shows interest-1 L1CC = Actually likes Touhou (still arguably in secondary territory, though)-5 L1CC = Starting to drift into fan territory-Doing meme challenges = Real fan or primary
Danmaku rule is stupid
-I think people overrated FW because the fanbase is deathly afraid of criticizing difficult entries (even if FW's balance is so wildly bad that the game can switch from being the easiest in the Windows mainline to one of the hardest depending on your loadout). It has a number of really strange design choices and fails at both balance and at providing compelling customization.-HSiFS on the other hand is heavily underrated, it's a very gimmicky game but the balance is immaculate and you can run practically any combination of character and subshot and still have a good time.-ZUN is terrible at wrapping up long running story arc, I've always known this but I think CDS helped me realize exactly why. He's really fucking bad at tying up stories in a way that's thematically cohesive and satisfying. CDS made this really obvious because the final battle hinges on this really poorly set up philosophical struggle between "Gensokyo is a crime" and "actually Gensokyo good" that just doesn't get a satisfying resolution. Nothing is solved, the good guy just threatens the bad guy until she decides to behave, most of his longer story arcs end in "and then character was defeated and it didn't really mean anything". This isn't an issue with most of the games, since they're self contained and the endings in them generally just need to wrap up a few loose ends and provide cute character moments (since the burden of carrying the dramatic climax of the story can be, thanks to the medium, shouldered by the final boss confrontation and the way the player experiences it through gameplay).-The entire western fanbase is shit, if they're not secondaries spouting obnoxious memes they're probably massive tryhard faggots that jerk off over how hardcore their pointless challenge run is. Lunatic 1cc? Cool, I do those too and I respect the gusto. Lunatic 1cc + I didn't bomb + I didn't lose a life + I had one hand on my cock the entire time? You're just being an attention whore. At least scorefags, as big of cunts as they can be, are competing in something the game cares to measure. Challenge runs are just masturbation.>>50122684I do not like Mizuchi in the slightest and I still agree, it's such a weird character assassination moment for Suika. Like she was always kind of a low key manipulative and secretive asshole, but having her just throw someone under the bus like that when she herself was the one that had encouraged the behavior that necessitated Mizuchi's death.And is it weird that I think Suika "regretting" that and just letting her run wild in Gensokyo makes me hate her more? It's weird, she went from a solid top 5 hu to I don't care where and I didn't even notice until a few days ago.>>50122829LE has a good number of men. As for men in mainline games, I'd have to say no outside of silent "accessories" like Unzan. Touhou has a very specific aesthetic with a very specific tone, adding male characters just to have male characters would ruin that.>>50122877You very obviously started playing the games with LoLK.
>>50122931I don't think FW is that difficult, especially with the tools at your disposal, as you said. People don't consider LLS hard because of its death rings, people shouldn't consider FW hard for the pyramid midbosses (MASSIVE stretch for the sake of giving an example, FW has difficult parts besides these two midbosses). Touhou opinions as a whole are a bit of a poisoned well from many factors, whether its the dismissing of newer entries on principle, and this hierarchy of opinions where the top playerbase's opinion is borderline gospel.Back to FW, I don't really have that good of a read on opinions about it besides seeming more positive than anything since LoLK. It's a mixed bag for me, with it shining the most in its varied stages and the Wonder Stones & combo system encouraging proactive play. It can feel a litttle heavy on the sucker punches especially if you're trying to PoC, a few tells like what PCB Stage 2 does could have helped, but that aside, the variety is much appreciated. On the other hand, there is a lot of missed potential in the stones, the balancing of shot types, and the game's lack of incentive to switch away from their favorite build is unfortunate. Even UM which has clearly broken cards & useless ones at least had characters different enough to justify experimenting. Sakuya's DPS made her a great fit for centipede builds, Sanae's more for bomb cheese.I can't speak for other places but there seems to have been, in my eyes, a fairly big shift on opinions about HSiFS. I see a lot more positivity about it these days. I think it shines in player expression with the season releases and the only scoring for extends system in the series that isn't braindead easy to get everything for. Yes, sometimes, there is a spell or two that are just "lol I press season release and I win" but I think summing up the game to that is very reductive.
character designs in the latest games are very unappealing, forgettable and ugly. The last characters that stood out for me where Yuuma, Chimata, Takane, Megumu and Nareko. I miss the frills.
>>50122622I wouldn't say we are contrarians. We simply aren't boot-lickers. Unlike the Asiatic hive-mind, we can say that what the guy made is shit, even if it's autistic screeching or just being wrong.>>50122684CDS and its consequences have been a disaster for the Touhou community. At least, the shitposts surrounding it are funny.>>50122877Damn, that hit hard...
>>50123159>I miss the frillsyou posted a character with no frills
>>50123460It's the frills in the heart that matter.
>>50122931Do people actually believe that ZUN is good at writing in the first place, his go to is making characters unexplained and mysterious, letting your imagination fill in the empty space.
>>50123526Someone should tell ZUN that mysteries cease to be when he keeps explaining them (see: literally every official manga).
>>50123547It's better that way, do you really want an explanation for why Tewi and Okina don't like the Lunarians, or what's the truth about Larva, or Sunny Milk and Cirno's hidden power?The reveal is part of a mystery story, but ZUN cant write climaxes or reveals. That and he recycles a lot of character ideas.
>>50123598I feel like you've misread my post. I said that I DO NOT want him to explain or reveal anything, yet that's exactly what he does in the manga.
>>50123615Truly the worst part of Touhou aside from touhou itself are the friends we made along the way.
IaMP is the worse decimal game and Suika's theme is the most unmemorable final boss theme ZUN has ever created to this dayWhich is a shame because IaMP has one of the most solid osts for a fightan otherwise
>>50122877I don't mind the commentary in theory. But yeah he's just not good at it/has nothing insightful to say. His "commentary" about AI in 20 especially falls flat considering he used sloppa to make it. "AI is... LE BAD (except when I use it!)" Give me a fuckin break.
>>50123526He's very good at world building and is obviously a rather intelligent person with the number of deep cut mythological references he manages to incorporate into his work. His dialogue certainly isn't bad either. It's just long form story telling that his weaknesses begin to really show.
>>50122829Gaaaay
>>50123657You sound like someone who got filtered by the game's difficulty. IaMP is a solid fighting game, which is way more than I can say for HM.>Suika's theme is the most unmemorable final boss theme ZUN has ever created to this dayNow I know you're shitposting.
>>50124327TH20 wasn't about ai being bad, it's just a thing that exists in setting and brings about change for better or worse. The fact that you got "ai bad" from it makes it sound like you're an overly sensitive ai shill.I'll say it though, if you want. AI is a gimmick pushed by tech bros and jeets with nowhere near as many applications as people like to pretend. You can generate as much garbage as you want, you'll never generate anything worth a shit.
>>50124389If by "filtered by difficulty" you mean Yukari throwing an unblockable and ungrazeable spell in story mode because lol lmao news flash that's not good game design. I cleared all scenarios and never looked back, game feels like a "gimped" version of SWR/UNL in all meanings of the word.And no I don't care about multiplayer because me and clearly everyone else would rather play Soku.>Now I know you're shitposting.Sorry you have shit taste I guess, Missing Power has some of the ugliest music synths ZUN has ever used and only the chorus is listenable, no wonder Broken Moon became Suika's default theme in SWR
>>50124582Look, I get it, I hate SFW because I had had negative experiences with that game. But it feels like you're letting that subjective experience blind you to more objective elements of the game design. Implying a solid fighting game like IaMP is worse than a train wreck like HM is pretty wild.>Missing Power has some of the ugliest music synths ZUN has ever usedWhat? The synths are great, very other worldly and beautiful. The song also has maybe the best use of zunpets ever. Even the song's title is top tier. "Onigashima in the Fairy Land" is "Faith is for the Transient People" tier, the title alone gives you chills.
HM is the best fightan
>>50124661Welp those are my unpopular opinions and I'm not planning on changing 'em, maybe one day I'll replay IaMP and HM back to back and see which one is the biggest piece of shit but for now I'm good>I hate SFWThat we can agree in >>50124686Now that's just evil
fightans are only good if they have your favorite 2hu, otherwise they are complete snca
>>50124786My favorite hu is Marisa so my opinion on fighting games is impartial and objective.BTW fighting peaked with ULiL
>>50124364I'd say the emphasis on world building rather than story telling works in Touhou's favor even as it gives fan creators everything they need to work with. Things like Eirin and Sakuya's connection in IN or Marisa's goal of becoming a magician putting her at odds with Reimu will never be expanded upon and only exist for the sake of the doujin scene.
Zun can't write a good plot even if it were to save his life. He should just return to the silly PC98 style of writing.
>>50123159Funny you saying that posting the most boring shitty generic literalhu shit character in the entire franchise. I'm glad he went away from the frilly doll shit because there's already 50 characters with that look. Fuck I hate eosdslop secondaries so much.
>>50125658True. Yuiman is one of the best hu designs and she just debuted.
>>50125658eosdfags are more likely to be jaded oldfagsyou want secondaries, look at the PC98fags
>>50125722case in point >>50125725
>>50125722Maybe on western imageboards at most
>>50125722Ironically the most recent poll proved that most Windows trilogyfags tend to be newcomers that enjoy fan works. Oldfags that stick around are actually really likely to stan for nuhus the want to see more of.You're 100% right about pc98hu fags though. It's mostly westoids that want to be secret club faggots despite being contrarian nonfans.
>>50122931sample downloader doesnt understand that some shots just being worse is a good thing
>>50122931>You're just being an attention whore.mad cause your shitclears dont mean anything and those people are better than you lol
>something the game cares to measure durrokay retards lets go by your own logiczun didnt even bother to implement proper scoring in FW it literally doesnt even fucking work without patchesbut he has achievements for no missing so those masturbatory challenge runs are therefore by your own logic more validfuck youre dumb just kill yourself
>>50122622North Korea,Dishwashers,and also Gaza.Anyway... With that out of the way. Not sure if this really counts but anybody else can't bring themselves to care about the animal realm? Very happy it's done and we hopefully never have to see that part of the lore again.
>>50126157Huh. guess I'm in the monority of newfags who have hopes for newhusAlso of course I'm right about 98fags, just look at /v/hu (please don't)
>>50126195Heard of the new LNN tryfag supreme extravaganza co-op mode where you need some to crush your balls repeatedly with a hammer blindfolded for the entire playtrough ?
>>50126185Only if you provide a compelling reason to use them (see: Sakuya A DDC). FW's balance feels like shit because there's also very little reason to not just run moon plus the two or three actually usable shots per character unless you want to handicap yourself. It's too shallow to make customization fun and too unbalanced to improve replay value by much.
>>50126214That's hilarious, but seething about someone making fun of your retarded NNNmastubation is also cringe so your post only evens out at a 5/10
>>50126157>>50126232Imagine liking anyone past DCC.
Imagine liking anyone past EoSD xDD
>>50126254>Imagine liking anything past INftfy
>>50126232I'm an oldfag and eternal Marisafag but I have high hopes for Yuiman.
>>50126240>>50126247i dont get what your point islike people just like pushing themselves in a game they enjoyu said uve done lunatic at the very least, imagine if some retard came up to you and started babbling to you about how you were wasting your time doing it and its just masturbatory and u shouldve stopped at ur 2 continue easy clearscoring gets crazier and much more gimmicky than lnning or lnbing so your argument doesnt hold there either idk what to tell u>>50126242ill agrree with u that zun made some sections of the game borderline impossible not to die to with certain shots, i think having a couple dogshit abysmal shots in every game is fun though
>>50126299I was just joking about the lnn stuff (I'm not >>50126247), personally I just think that in the end, no matter how tryhard you get in the games to brag about it, the discussion just has to be taken easy, it's no serious bussiness.
>>50126335oh ya its even gayer to be a huge elitist about ititeh guy i was originally replying to >>50122931was being a faggot though so he deserves me shitting on him
>>50126269You think her being old friends with Kanako might imply a new Moryia Conspiracy?
>>50126299>i dont get what your point islike people just like pushing themselves in a game they enjoyThat's fine, just don't be conceited about it. That's it.
>>50126358people were conceited about it like 10 years ago dudeyoull find it pretty hard to find a sweatlord who shits on you not nolifing the games as hard as they do nowadaysthose people are literally gone it was all in your head
except for the chinese communiity theyre still retarded autists but fuck chinks idk why they havent been nuked yet
>>50126357I doubt it, ZUN seems mostly done with Moriya conspiracies, but I'm hopeful the connection will give her an in for future stories.I'm not sure if ZUN will go this far but I'd love if Yuiman just became Sanae's new roommate.
>>50126372>those people are literally goneUhhhhh >>50122910
I enjoy playing the new games.Unpopular opinion.
>>50126418How dare you.I played the TH20 demo as my first windows game and it's honestly fun
>>50122910hes not really wrong thoughhe's not calling you shit he's just calling you lazyyou can get a lunatic 1cc in at least 100 hours assuminig you care to which is really nothingthe games do genuinely only get hard when you put restrictions on urself its not like thats a bad thing its just what it is
>>50126414ah o ii meant to reply to you
>>50126450See, you're just humble bragging now. Conceited faggotry behind a veil of polite language is still conceited faggotry. Not everyone wants or needs to do autistic challenge runs. Hell, not everyone needs to do Lunatic 1ccs. If you're experiencing the games by actually engaging with gameplay that's fine by me.
>>50126571you dont need toyoure complaining about the people that want tothats what makes you a faggotyoure teh conceited retard whos mad at others for not being as lazy as you are lol
>>50126583You're saying I don't need to, and then in the same breath calling me lazy for not doing so.If you're going to shitpost don't be so obvious about it
>>50126609dude im saying you dont need to youre the one forcing your own inferiority complex ahaha what the fuck im not your dad
>>50122622I think Seija is super sexy
>>50122622SSiB IMO is a really good read and it's fucking annoying that another coherent manga is never going to get made again.Lots of people criticise it for the moonies being mary sues, but they really aren't. That's like playing a game, getting stuck at the first boss and screeching that the bosses are overpowered because you suck. They're antagonists, and Reimu doesn't show up to steamroll them because that's not the point of the plot.In any case, I liked it a lot. In regards to the other manga, whaletits just... never really got going as far as I can remember, because it's following a really obvious pattern of conflict in one issue and resolution in the next. The art is good, but oh dear god, the plot, it's so fucking... boring.I won't even mention the fairy one and CDS. Again, good art, but the lack of a plotline beyond "tee hee look at what I wrote this month" just kills it.
>>50127041I liked Lotus Eaters at first, but like you said, it's just the same thing over and over again. Very much reads like "ZUN found some neat folklore thing and wants to infodump" in manga form. And not in a good way. Like the whole thing is just a pretense for some long-winded explanation about the poopoopeepee mushroom of the oogityboogity forest or whatever boring shit. Just start a blog, man. Could have been comfy official Touhou SoL, but no.
>>50127041whaletits can be replaced with mystiaand the three pedophile baits can be replaced as wellworst shit zun has done besides l*st word
>>50127041>>50127084Hmmm interesting how moonslut glazers also hate comfy SoL character focused pieces. Focused on... earthlings?I wonder who could be behind these posts...?
>>50127096no anoni idont have SoLi would like SoL mangaif it were based around existing charcaters that are actually guuedinistead of garbage like whaletits or the three pedobaits understand?
>>50127096>SoL character focused piecesI fucking wish dude.
>>50127111Sure, we got Marisa making mosquito repellent and Marisa being afraid of thunder.To be frank if you don't like cute Marisa stories you probably never actually liked Touhou.
>>50127116Yeah man that's actually exactly what my problem with Lotus Eaters is. Good job figuring that out with zero (0) textual evidence to support it. Got anything else you want to pull out of your ass? Retard.
>>50127123I don't understand, you want SoL but you hate cute character driven stories with low stakes? It just sounds like you don't actually like SoL.
>>50127139he could just be one of those fags who need everything they consume to be as miserable as they are, you never know
>>50127235good job tryiing to talk about anyone being miserable when you post the most unfunny reddit meme unimaginble you secondary retard
>>50127139NTA but I'm 90% sure he's being sarcastic, and instead takes issue not with the low stakes story, but with the reused plot elements.>>50127096>Moonslut glazerGod I wish... I so want...
>>50127273>Spurdo is redditYou do sound pretty miserable, and with a short temper, too.Are you a manlet?
>>50127300 why are you bullying me im soryyyyygf gfpds
wow its funn how all the re retaredd faggos i was sarguign wtih this threads topper replying to me almost likethey know theyre wrong why cant people jsust admit it when they know im smarter than them and tat im right it snot thard you know
>>50127405youre relaly cool anon
We need more mooncutie mangas
>>50127501One finger curls: You get moonies in a manga, but it's about Junko making scorched earth (moon?) of the Lunar Capital to finally get to Chang'e
>>50126254>DCCDouble Cunting Character?Anyway, you're wrong because Larva came after that and she's super cute.
>>50127527idkyo ushould probablymake actual interesting postsinstead of crying to janniesyoure a retarded faggot that nobody likes thats probably why they dont care about u lol
>>50127527The schizo rp'er is probably discord erp buddies with janny
>>50126299Not him, but xNB has basically become the de facto standard for how this game is played, and it always makes discussions weird. It usually ends up like thisA: "Uh, X boss is difficult any tips? Also, this shottype is really bad, holy shit. ZUN can't into game balance"B: "Bomb the X spell, it can be dangerous. Also, Y spellshot is just a bad shottype yeah, but at least it has a good bomb"A: "REEEEEEEE USING BOMB?! LKASDJLKASJDLKASJD!!!"Like, if you care that much about difficulty, just play harder games. And if you do cripple yourself, expect the game to feel unbalanced lol
>>50128613>Also, Y spellshot is just a bad shottype yeah, but at least it has a good bomb"God, imagine being such a shit shottype that you have both a terrible shot AND a terrible bomb.hahaha...
>>50122877Where do the DDChus fit in on this chart?
>>50122622The Printworks and games should just be clear cut separate continuities/canons. Especially when they've started to contradict each other at times. Like the whole "Ran is just the shikigami, the fox is a vessel with an inactive personality" bit that got retconned into, "akshually Ran is totally the Fox the entire time and even has animal realm friends!" It'd also be nice if the series backed off the whole, every game is just the whim of some reskinned Japanese deity shtick, at least for a little bit. Shanghai Alice being a means to represent East meeting West feels like something that hasn't been true since EoSD
>>50122684ngl I was rooting for Mizuchi. She deserved justice for what happened.
>>50128882By the time we got to her epic tragic backstory I just couldn't be bothered give two shits about her, especially when her targets have almost nothing to do with her betrayal (I'm going to attack this shrine that literally only recently appeared in Gensokyo because... uh.... I'm evil mu haha!)Like why not target Suika, the person that actually betrayed her? I mean outside of being a hypocrite that jumped at the first opportunity to be a pawn for the person who threw her down the river, a situation she was only in because she was a loyal pawn for this person.
A Grimsokyo-fag's angst is due to Reimu having a big club, and they not being apart of it. Also CDS and Reimu's ending monologue could have been better if there had an arc about the animal realm. (1) Yacchie and co enslaved human spirits presumably to sustain themselves. (2) Gensokyo has a 'free range farming' system ultimately for the same end. And ZUN could have tied these two ideas together with for a 'Gensokyo good' argument.
The music CDs have better music and stories than the games due to ZUN not being restricted by the format of a danmaku/fighting game and are generally more interesting than "Ancient goddess/youkai in a silly dress causes an incident for some reason and Reimu and co. have to beat her up, while beating up five other people on the way"
>>50128924I can't believe Reimu would bend over backwards to save Kosuzu but would probably kill Marisa with a smile on her face if Marisa ever gave her the slightest reason to do so.
>>50128776They are mid windows, last "early" windows was MoFvvvvvarks
>>50128940Completely arbitrary designation.
>>50128940I know that but from the chart it looks like they have more in common with PC-98 era characters.
I started with the PC-98 games and SoEW was the first game I played all the way through (though that's more because the Windows games wouldn't work on my computer than anything else, thanks Ubuntu) and to this day I genuinely prefer the general tone, atmosphere and characters of the first five games to the later games, they're just lighthearted silly fun instead of being forced social commentary on Japan's isolationism or whateverI miss when Touhou didn't take itself so seriously
>>50128924If you want to be part of Reimu's club you are unironically the type of person who would betray your own brother for a cheap buck.
>>50128924The Human spirits in the Animal Realm aren't required for the Animal spirits to live though, the whole comparison falls flat on that. The Humans and Youkai reached a mutually beneficial agreement to create the Hakurei Barrier and seal Gensokyo from the outside world. The numerous factions fighting over control of the Human Village is very similar to how IRL governments try and influence and control cultural centres, but in this case all factions mutually agree to work in Gensokyo's best interests (though with a slight tilt their side for their own benefit). Whereas IRL this is not the case.Akyuu, at the end of FS, said it best: Youkai, as a whole, aren't a single monolithic faction so they will fuck each other over to gain control and influence over the Human Village. The Humans ultimately have the final say in who wins. Therefore, as long as you are human, you can get away with anything.
>>50129087>as long as you are human, you can get away with anything.I will rape Seija then.
>>50129087>The Humans and Youkai reached a mutually beneficial agreement to create the Hakurei Barrier and seal Gensokyo from the outside world.No they fucking didn't. The outside world sealed away the human villagers AGAINST their will. They had no say in this. Even PCB prologue, back when the human village was still mostly a nice play (Well, it kind of didn't exist but that's a different matter) said as much. The fact they still threat outsiders with kindness and dignity is just more evidence that they are freaking saints. God, I wish these fucking retards on threads like this would at least read canon before coming up with widely untrue conclusions based on absolutely nothing. >Therefore, as long as you are human, you can get away with anything.Except walk outside after dark or fighting for your own happiness and desires.
>>50129040The PC-98 games are fine as far as obvious Puyo Puyo ripoffs go, main issue is the characters are all overwelmingly bland or literal ripoffs of better works.Dim Dream probably has the best cast and nobody likes playing Dim Dream for a reason.
>>50129107Why exactly was the village sealed? It's long since been retconned, but the PCB prologue says every villager was a Youkai Hunter, so it'd make sense as to why they'd agree to be sealed away with a bunch of Youkai. But presently I'm not sure. I've heard from some they were sealed against their will, while CDS makes it sound like the Hakurei's plan to save Youkai from going extinct. Is it ever made clear or is it one of those things ZUN leaves vague forever?
>>50128929What's the deal with Maribel and Renko's timeline? The album stories make it sound like they're living in some utterly fucked dystopian future, but only gives little glimpses into that.
>>50129178>so it'd make sense as to why they'd agree to be sealed away with a bunch of YoukaiIt doesn't because the one mention of them all being Youkai exterminators, PCB prologue, explicitly says they were sealed away against their will. >Gensokyo was also deemed useless to the new world, so priests sealed it away with a permanent barrier. Youkai and the descendants of the brave humans who kept them in check were sealed away in the process as well...Is the exact quote. Notice that it explitcly makes a difference between the priests who sealed away the human villagers and the actual descendants of youkai exterminators. >while CDS makes it sound like the Hakurei's plan to save Youkai from going extinctYes, the Hakurei Shrine Maidens. Not the human villagers. They were victims of that scheme.
>>50129186>The album stories make it sound like they're living in some utterly fucked dystopian futureIt's hilariously enough significantly less dystopian than Gensokyo nowadays.
>>50122910Marisa yukkuri is on my right pecReimu yukkuri is on my left pec"Yukkuri shiteitte ne!" adorns my neck like a gold chain.All this talk of credit clears is for fake fans, show me where you've bled for this fandom.
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>>50129667>Sangetsusei is the best mangaTake so cold it would make even Cirno uncomfortable.
>>50122684>Suika getting Mizuchi killedDidn't happen?She leaves Mizuchi be after Mizuchi basically speaks the intentions that will lead to folks wanting to kill her. Suika is a free spirit, not a hero. She never has been a hero.
all 2hus are built for my bbc
>>50129768Big bharatian cock, saar?
>>50129762Don't you think Suika asking a Shrine Maiden to pretend to be a Youkai and attack humans while Youkai and Humans are in the middle of negotiating for peace would put a massive target on said Shrine Maiden's back from both sides?
Touhou would be a lot better if ZUN gave it the respect he once did as art and not as creator's therapy
>>50130143We get it anon you dicksuck an era you weren't around for. Le pc98 good, windows bad. Just play Cotton or something Jesus, cute 'em ups aren't rare
PC-98 era sucks.
>>50130143Some of the best art is just a vehicle for the creator's therapy but ZUN just isn't an interesting or insightful guy so it falls flat when he does it.
>>50130330Unfortunately he's too well adjusted and not insane or traumatized enough.Good art can only really be made by insane and evil people, everyone else is just a hack.
>>50128929>musicSomewhat agreed he showcases pretty good tracks he wouldn't be able to put in games otherwise >storiesMeh, I can't say I care all that much for Merry and Renko as characters to begin with, I wish ZUN tried his hand at something like DiPP again
>>50128947Because the chart is clearly based off specific characters from each era rather than trying to fit together everyone from said era, PC98 is Yuuka, early windows is Remilia, mid windows is Junko and late windows is Ariya
>>50130757Ariya is way more in line with the early and mid-windows characters here, I think you're thinking of Yuiman but even then.>Brainwashing people and forcing them be to work in google search centers is inhumaneWith is a very milktoast toast most people can agree on.
>>50130788No, it's Ariya.Notice her face being obscured and the weird ribbon part on her right.Pretty sure this thing was made back when 20 was still untranslated and ZUN said he was using AI to make a statement therefore the BBC headline.
>>50130828So the memes just incarnate because it was made by some Anon's blown out of the water assumptions on an untranslated game?
>>50130186Nice insecure self-report, newfag>>50130330It feels like at some point he got it mixed up that Touhou coming from his interests means that all his views are inherently interesting, yeah. IMO the man's still got it where it counts. But I wish he'd focus less on philosophy and more on sound experiences.
>>50130788>>50130828It's modeled after Ariya but it's also pretty obvious that the artist behind the image is a retard that doesn't actually know much about the characters he's praising or the characters he's knocking.The "return to pc98" shitposting push feels really disingenuous in general, like the opposite end of the spectrum from the grimsokyo dishwasher retard. Not sure why there are so many schizos posting on /jp/ lately, feels like people haven't been gatekeeping hard enough.
>>50131553Because people are tired to the same bogged down tropes with no variance in ages? Just because you don't like the criticism doesn't mean they go away when you throw a fit, bring up a strawman, and just blanket them all as boogeymen you don't like.
>>50133015You can't really complain about tropes while also romanticizing the far more tropey writing of pc98. It's just hypocritical.
>>501229101CCs? In THIS economy? Fund my time because my bread won't earn itself...
>>50131553It's painful to actually like pc98 and attempt any discussion 90% of the time... The pc98 girl doesn't even work with LLS, but I guess checking the wiki is too much...>>50133654It doesn't take thaaaat much time, just playing one run until you run out of credits every day or three and seeing how your skill progresses is really cool in any "arcade style game".It's also a set amount of time so it won't suddenly have consumed way more time of the day that you would have expected like other games, or shitposting or whatever.
>>50131553>The "return to pc98" shitposting push feels really disingenuous in generalPeople used to be able to like whatever characters they wanted (including PC-98) without other people thinking it's some forced astroturf campaign to give people different opinions on fictional characters for some reason
>>50134620I wouldn't conflate liking pc98 hus with the posts that use them as some sort of retarded standard for "what Touhou should be" that hasn't actually been true of Touhou in over 20 years.
