Previous thread: >>50237211This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
What are anons thinking of playing for Christmas?
>>50260119I meant to play this last year but it was already past Christmas by the time I got some reading time. Will probably read it this year instead.
>>50260068name of this daddy hating chad and game he's from?
>>50260161it's phantom 2013 remake but no need play it for him, this is pretty much the only instant in the game he appears
>>50260119When I was trying to finish Oretsuba last Christmas it was 40 degrees Celsius and it was irritating seeing them in winter clothes. So nothing I guess. The chances I finish Shigatsu Youka in time for a Christmas read is unlikely, anyway
What do anons think about downloading a deck from jitenmoe/jpdb/whatever, learning all unknown words and then reading the vn?
>>50260119snatcher for cd rommantic by the genius videogame designer kojima hideo
>>50260649i did this with a couple of anime movie and got everything spoiled lol
>>50260649Whats up with you people making things more complicated than it needs to be? Just read the VN and then look up the word that you don't know. The time you wasted on preparing Anki bullshit is the time that you can spend reading VNs instead. Idk about you but I certainly did not develop my English vocabulary via Anki and deliberately memorizing shit for the sake of it. I developed it naturally through consuming media and Japanese is no different.
>>50260795this but whitenoise instead of looking stuff up
>>50260798literally me reading kusoge in my first year learning jp
Anyone play Shuten Order? How was it?
>>50260898Hundred Line was so retarded it put me off of playing any other Kodaka games, and I say this as someone who has SDR2 among his favorites.
>>50260119Maybe this will be the year I finally read white album>>50260649Don't, just learn words as you read them for the first time reading eroge, way more efficient
https://vndb.org/v49096Is this game uploaded anywhere?
>>50260649You will barely learn the words even if you had them on repeat hundred times with Anki which offers close to nothing with context. How did "faggot" and "gay" became so memorable when you got called by these words so many times I. English? Literally look back, think about how you learn English and use the same methods.
>>50261170It's on Steam. Just buy it.
>>50261170kamige vibes
>>50261545im not sure how long it took to learn english though i dont really rememver when i was good and i dont remember the time when i wasnt good. i just know that by the time i started to be aware of my ability i was already good. with japanese i want to do it faster so it only makes sense to use anki
>>50261900also english is extremely similar to my first language while japanese isnt, which probabaly makes everything even slower
>>50261900>with japanese i want to do it fasteryou can't, language learning is simply a matter of time-investment
>>50261916so how did you do it? did you use anki and how long did it take?
>>50261933people will disagree, but in hindsight i think that it's worth investing the first 6m-1y in pure grammar/kanji/vocab deck grinding, but not any more than that. then just start reading and looking things up when neededit will take a while, and it really depends on how much time you have daily. as long as you understand that it's a lifelong process you should be fine
>>50262027nah I agree too, you need to grind Anki for a few months just to be able to read somewhere around gradeschool level, but after that you need to full media spam. I haven't been to /djt/ in like 9 years, but it was filled to the brim with people that never moved on from Anki and were confused about why they don't know Japanese yet
help a retardanyone have a crack for this? https://vndb.org/v59027entering serial code doesnt work
>>50262175true. anki is a learning tool that should be dropped asap, you aren't supposed to "get good" at ankidroning, you are supposed to learn (reading) japanese.
Any thoughts on Skelter + Heaven?
>>50262027>>50262175>>50262196well im just a few months in, did kaishi and have about 1.2k cards in my mining deck. i can read novels like また、同じ夢を見ていた pretty easily but stuff on the difficulty of key vns still requires me to look up a ton of stuff. do you think i should drop anki already or continue using it for a couple of months? i havent missed a day of anki so far so i have to admit that the thought of just stopping kinda feels weird to me since then the reviews will pile up and stuff, but on the other hand i havent tried how fast progress is without it.
>>50262280>since then the reviews will pile up and stuffJust ease out of it. Gradually decrease the amount of new cards per day.
>>50262321well yeah i could just set new cards to 0 but that would still mean repping old cards. like i said i started just a couple of months ago so no card has a particularly high interval. also i still question wether its to early to drop it or not. im not really good enough to judge that yet
>>50262331If Anki is already part of your routine then its fine to continue it but at your level most of your time should be spend reading VNs.
>>50262280NTA, I used anki for 3 years after starting but every deck ended the same way. I would have fun adding cards and revieweing until 1 day I would wake up or a particularly melancholic morning, open up anki to 300-400+ reviews, question my life, delete the entire deck and launch whatever VN I was reading at the time instead. And then 2-3 days later I would start a new deck, which eventually would meet the same fate, the then again....Really good practice imo, eventually makes you realize that you can retain words without anki just fine, but also as a beginner/intermediate you have no idea what words you should be adding to anki and which ones are either too common or too useless, so it helps to clean up trash. Japanese is like extrapolation of kana. It only takes 2-4 hours to learn how to recognize kana. And then once you move on to basic grammar/vocab you are still to shaky on kana, sometimes you blank out how to read specific ones or mix them up, but fastforward 1 month of consistent studying, and your problems are with Kanji because you already internalized kana and don't have to think about kana anymore. And then fastforward 1 year and the way you were reading kana at 1 month mark feels like you were shit compared to 1 year. Same with kanji/vocab. If you see new word it feels really shaky and feels impossible to remember without a flashcard, but on a grand scale, if you consistently read Japanese for 3 years you will see those words ten thousand times so it doesn't matter. Not to mention, you base general understanding and intuiton of Japanese language and how words are formed and where roots come from improves so eventually it just takes seeing a word 1-2 times before you remember it forever.
>>50262574interesting. you say you used it for 3 years. would you just not use it if you were starting over or do you think it did help even though it was painful to do?
>>50262590I probably still would, it does give good placebo effect and some extra motivation from the feeling like you are learning something immediately. And as I said, I did have fun making cards and reviewing my new deck until eventually gaps were getting too big and old cards were starting overlapping with new cards and I'd get 400 reviews. I would look at the number and new it would take 40+ minutes to go through before I could do what I actually wanted to do, which was to continue reading my VN. So the moment I felt like doing reps turned from fun to chore I'd delete the deck, so it never felt painful.
>>50261900If you want to learn faster, you literally have to read in JP 24/7 and rip your balls out by reading something harder, even if you know nothing. Anki doesn't help with anything besides to make you feel more comfortable when you're still a beginner or if you're literally spending a few minutes to review something - the program is better suited for medical students or people who need to cram a lot into memory before an exam not language learners. Obviously everyone is different but I grinded kanji and vocabulary in my first year which didn't do much in hindsight now that I can read a lot without being that dependent on hooking or lookups.
>>50262696can anyone else confirm this? i dont know why im so paranoid about this. i guess i just dont wanna miss out on some major progress
>>50262465It took arch dropping anki from their packages because the developer went full retarded with the build process for me to stop doing my reps even though I didn't need that shit for years at that point.
>>50262859Yes I got better at japanese once I started watching vtubers all day.
>>50262859Immersing as much as possible to learn faster is just common sense, isn't it? I used Anki for a few months but stopped when I realized I was remembering words just fine from seeing them over and over again from constant reading and I can read most things without hooking now. I was also a NEET that read all day every day though
>>50262859it's simply a matter of time investment. pick moeshit, read it for 200 hours, then you'll get confortable reading moeshit. pick something harder, read it for 200 hours, etc...
>>50262859You can do yourself a favor and read the archive about Anki in this thread for more assurance. For reference, getting to that level took me about a year and half if I don't count the short time of Ankidroning. If I was full NEET during the entirety of learning, it would have took less. I just read VNs and played games, increased the difficulty and variation as I went on. Even if you don't like moeshit, there's still easier games to play. Metal Gear Solid is a really good start, a guy even made a video to learn JP from it.
>>50262911>>50262926>>50262934how about building high kanji knowledge? how do you deal with rare words? do you just get so used to the language that seeing stuff once or twice a year is enough to maintain the knowledge?
>>50262980Some rare words are burned into my mind because they're less rare in the things I read. Other things I still need to lookup and I may or may not remember it until the next time I see it, depends. It's not like having to look things up occasionally is a bad thing
>>50262980read chuunige or the harder stuff>do you just get so used to the language that seeing stuff once or twice a year is enough to maintain the knowledge?if you see it once/twice a year then you don't need to remember it. your goal it being able to read japanese, not to know the meaning of super obscure kanji
>>50262980Think about the rare words in English, do you see people constantly putting them into anything besides the most pretentious shit or something extremely specialized? In most cases, you won't need to know them unless you're being tested for an exam. In fact, in many cases, you can context it out with enough experience through reading. Same thing in Japanese.
How hard is 9-nine for N3? I tried Mahoushoujo no Majo saiban and got filtered, now I want to read something easier but modern.
>>50263217well japanese isnt nearly as close to my native language as english but i get the point. it just feels wrong since everyone always tells you to do anki and mine but ig youre right.
>>50263222Both of those are the same elementary school children tier bro. You just need to read.
>>50263222They're both pretty easy to read games, I don't know how to measure in comparison to N rankings but you should just force yourself through them.
Remake certainly looks better.
>>50263222Stick to moege throgh your first year, find a moege you like and stick through it
>>50262859>can anyone else confirm this?I did Anki for about 8 months before I jumped into my first VN. When I did, I felt that Anki had done very little to prepare me and that I had to learn everything I saw on the fly.After about a month of actual reading I felt I had learned more from it than my eight months of Anki combined.>>50262980>how about building high kanji knowledge? I don't consider Kanji knowledge in isolation to be even slightly meaningful. Knowing a kanji but not knowing any words it's used in is close to pointless. What's the use of knowing 互 but not being able to understand お互い様?Learn the word first, and you'll learn the kanji in it with little additional effort.>how do you deal with rare words?Once you reach a high enough skill level you can understand them with a reasonable level of accuracy from context clues alone.If you read 「あの剣は鋭いから気をつけて」and you already know what 鋭い and 気をつけて mean, and the speaker is pointing at a sword, the meaning of 剣 is incredibly obvious.If I need to be absolutely certain of what something means, I look it up. But whether you use Anki or not, you'll always need to look the word up in that circumstance anyway because Anki doesn't give you absolute certainty either.>tldrI used Anki for 8 months, and after 1 month of reading I wished I'd used Anki for zero months and started reading immediately instead.Anki isn't useless; like if you want something to put on your phone to use to study when you're on the toilet or whatever, go for it, but your prime studying time every day should be devoted to reading, or maybe some kind of production.
>>50263513I remember I got duped into doing something like 100 new kanji anki cards per day remembering bullshit kanjis that rarely appear in contemporary Japanese media and none of that sticks. I stopped doing that and start reading more about grammar and actually read VNs for real and before I know it I absorb most of the kanji and vocab like a sponge.
>>50263230>everyone always tells you to do ankiAnki isn't inherently bad, it's just incorrectly used by many where it catches them by the balls through FOMO and game-like "progression" from hours upon hours of rote memorization without understanding any context and making meaningful connections. All of this is just utterly counterproductive with language learning, which is why you see people not understanding a single thing after a decade. Lots of people tell others to commit to Anki like a religion because they're beginners in denial and feel like got something out of it. In reality, they know close to nothing about consuming anything actually made for natives. Anki gives a false sense of security and distracts people from reality.
learning rare kanji is a non issue in a VN context anyway because usually what happens is that the author is utterly in love with these 4 obscure kanji/words due to autism or muh prose, you just look them up one time and then you are good to go for 40 hours because he will never stop spamming them
>>50263513>>50263565>>50263574what about pitch accent and listening comprehension? what if you want to watch a show instead of reading? doesnt anki become almost necessary for remembering stuff i that case?
>>50263695You get plenty of listening practice from reading VNs assuming they're voiced. (I highly recommend reading mostly voiced VNs for your first year for this reason.)For watching shows, I recommend picking any young children's anime and watching it raw, then moving up to a show for older children, then even older children, then young teens, etc.It goes without saying that children's anime is made to be understood by people with very limited Japanese ability.It's actually really fun to watch a young kid's anime as a learner because you have to focus on it so much that you can end up getting really invested into the story.When I was a beginner I watched かみさまみならいヒミツのここたま for this. It was the perfect level of challenge for me and I really enjoyed it. But anything for very young children should be fine. NHK has some great free shows online without any ads.Again, I didn't find Anki useful for this. It's its own skillset, you learn it by doing it. You have to process words and sentences much faster than you would when reading flashcards.To be clear: Do Anki if you want to. But don't have the only studying you do in a day be Anki. What you need more than anything else as a beginner is real experience. Anki is no substitute for that.
>>50263695Just read voiced VNs and watch whatever you want, no reason anki should be necessary for that>pitch accentNever cared about this.
>>50263695Pitch accent varies wildly between dialects and might be helpful for appreciating or getting angry at voice acting. Trying to memorize a standard system for it mainly is just to sound slightly less like a foreign dumbass when actually speaking.
>>50263755>Never cared about this.You instinctively learn the standard japanese version anyways. e.g. you should read 二時 and 虹 slightly differently. That's all it is. There was some variety show segment I watched one time where some prefecture accent didn't use pitch accents so they would read shit like 雨 and 飴 exactly the same outloud. It was funny.
>>50263695>pitch accentIf you seriously care about this then sound out words and sentences outloud. Yes you will sounds like a retard but who cares. I don't consider it important at all unless you live in Japan and want to blend with everyone else if you're Asian. Everyone has gets a free pass.>listening comprehension This comes with repeated exposure from voiced works.
Not that guy, but I did a core 2k anki deck with 2k most common words and also 2k words I mined from vinnies and anime so I have quite a lot of cards in rotation. I feel like I spend half of my japanese learning time grinding anki. Is it time to stop mining and doing new words?
エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN and japanese learning tips General
you niggas cant be real :laughing: just GROK it nigga
>>50263923You should do what works for you and is the most fun, whatever that is, but based on the fact that you're asking this question, I'm guessing you would enjoy your Japanese learning experience much more if you started reinvesting that time into reading more VNs.I generally find that leaving my comfort zone and challenging myself with something new helps me learn much more than doing the same things over and over again. I'd imagine dipping your toes into a new variety of visual novel you've never tried before would be much more helpful at your skill level than continuous flashcard training. Like something set in a different time period or location, or that focuses on a topic with its own specific vocabulary, like a military or medical themed story.For example, one of the visual novels I'm most happy I've read from a learning perspective is 母爛漫, which is set in the Taishou era and taught me a lot of unusual words and speech patterns I've used over and over again since then.You also might want to start thinking more about production at your skill level, especially if you want to speak Japanese fluently someday.
>>50263695>pitch accentlmfao>listening comprehension?watch raw anime
There is no Interlude anime.
>>50263923If you can grind full time, then it's probably better to quit. Otherwise, continue and turn fsrs on with the retention set to around 75 % to spend less time on reviews.
>>502632229-nine isn't too difficult. Just power through the first game even if you find it difficult at times. Once you finish that, going through the other three in the series will be fairly relaxed. Should be a nice confidence boost. Try tackling Manosaba again afterwards
Who called the djt faggots? Not learning dead languages.
>>50264209this never lerning shitlish
>Indians starting to wake up>MTL AI 4EVER saaaarof course
>>50264225Mad that you wasted 10 years learning dead languge benchod?
>>50264230Only tongues of value are dead tongues.
>>50263281that's because the original design is bad. and ai is a bad heroine anyway, her tomboy bestfriend is much better
>>50263281her greatest aspect was her eyebrows and they ruined it lmao the previous design looks better, the art style is just prettier (and flatter) and more effort was put into this cg
any moege with a lot of jealousy?
>>50263774>Everyone has gets a free pass.Not quite. If you speak mostly correct Japanese but randomly get the pitch accent in a word wrong it will throw off Japanese speakers. If you don't plan on speaking then you can ignore pitch accent completely and pronounce things wrong all you want, but if you do make sure not to half-ass it so you don't confuse people.
good morning /djt/!
>>50263281Why didn't they get Kadoi Aya to do the art for the remake? Elf was able to get her back for Gatenkei just for the inside joke, I'm sure she would be down to do the art for a Kakyuusei remake.
>>50264506they should have just gotten sumeragi kohaku, her art for doukyuusei remakes was top notch
>>50264413amakano 2+ added a route invader out of nowhere into the fandisc
Chat I don't want to read shigatsu youka so bad, what do I do
>>50264522is amakano 2+ that much better than the original title? or is it the same level of quality
>>50264636If you enjoyed the original game then you'll most likely enjoy the FD even more. If you didn't like the original then you'll likely think the same of the FD, unless Sara is especially your type.
>>50264643i see, thank you
>>50264584It's actually really good.
>>50264867Will I still get the cool guy cred if I read the remake with the new art?
>>50264584then don't read it. you don't have to read every single "all cool guys read this" type of vinnie
>>50264584You should read BLge instead of that slop
it's kind of crazy that when you rank cuckshit, femaleprotagshit and gayshit in terms of writing quality, cuckshit is the best.
>>50264923I really think that's not the sort of thing you can rank in the abstract and you can only rate in terms of individual VNs. Plus they're not mutually exclusive, there's plenty of yurige with ntr drama
>>50264901The problem with waiting for the remake is the game is super long so aside from waiting forever for all of it to actually come out, who knows if they'll actually be able to sell and make enough to actually finish remaking everything. I also think it's really gay that the author wants to rewrite lewd jokes and such, but maybe you don't care about that.Most of the game just has the character silhouettes on screen anyways, and the remake is going to be the same. There's just occasional moments where you actually see the character art in CGs, and yeah it's very amateurish but I think it has its charm. The guy also puts extra effort into making some of them a bit animated like pic rel. There's a lot of effort in the production even when it's just the silhouettes on screen like people jumping around, it's very high quality for a free game made by one guy.
>>50264936>The guyisn't it by a woman?
>>50264936>Most of the game just has the character silhouettes on screen anyways, and the remake is going to be the sameLike a nenetori kinda thing？
>>50264867It's ok, I started it and now I'm invested. My number one fear was that the engine they run it on is so shit, for some reason it eats 35% of cpu, even as I'm typing this I can hear vent going bananas in the background. As well as it does not have proper fullscreen, so I have to magpie anime4k it and I was scared it would lag, which it did, but only during 1 scene where Natsumi was reliving whatever trauma she has associated with sakuras. And my number two concern was that just from initial warnings you can tell it's gonna have metafiction and I'm so over metafiction stories in 2025 I'm afraid Im gonna hate it if it's too plot intrusive.I do love my murder mysteries however so I could not stop thinking about reading this. Having read it for couple of hours, it instantly reminded it of one of my favorite Setoguchi VNs 暗い部屋, I really dig this realisic style both visually and in characters with no voice acting. And also progression counter and remining text % on every scenario somehow is really addicting and makes you wanna keep reading more...Is this how texthook cucks feel when they read anything?>>50264919No, fuck you! I DO have to read every single VN, or at least try to until proven that it's not for me and I don't find it interesting!
>>50264944>暗い部屋which other setoguchi vinnie is that closer to? like read this if you like x
>>50264950My second favorite Setoguchi is Hira Hira and I'd say it also closest in vibe. Not really the subject matter, but in a sense that it feels very real and very dark. It's really short, pretty sure I read it in one day.
>>50263695>what about pitch accentLMAObut if you really care about bitch accenthttps://files.catbox.moe/k1a7hf.mp4take a silent period(1y-1.6y)https://youtu.be/EFnc-OktAdQ?si=eohll0DGl7RwOj6t&t=525
>>50264938No idea but I have a feeling it's a guy since there's two women in love with fat short guys and one was going on about how appearance doesn't matter to her.>>50264940Looks close enough from screenshots I guess. They're used as sprites, it's inspired by old sound novels plus it's easier to play around with variety.>>50264944>the engine they run it on is so shit, for some reason it eats 35% of cpuI guess that's the price of taking a free engine and dumping tons of stuff into it kek. Never played anything in this engine before but it's probably pushed to its limit.>I'm so over metafiction stories in 2025 I'm afraid Im gonna hate it if it's too plot intrusive.I don't really like metashit, but it seems to be handled pretty well so far with (You) interacting with Mika-chan to theorize about the case and putting things together yourself from the reference papers. I'm not that far in though, so it could go a silly direction later.
>>50264994>there's two women in love with fat short guys and one was going on about how appearance doesn't matter to her.that sounds like a female author ngl
has there been any drama about 諦観のイヴ・ベセル since I stopped looking at it or are they actually going to release a game with 300 cgs in January without the use of AI?
>>50265115bet it gets delayed again
Any decent 家出子 ge out there?
>>50265149tomefure
>>50263695>pitch accent and listening comprehension>thinking anki will help with that shit instead of actually consuming Japanese media and real practiceWho started the anki cult for language learning? I swear it must be a dekinai conspiracy to stray people off the path. They're like 魔羅 trying to stop people from learning Japanese.
>>50265274>Who started the anki cult for language learning?grifters
>>50265274the srs cult was started by khatzumoto sama actually
>>50265115Yes, the same way games with +300 CGs were released in the past before the AI meme became popular. It is pretty clear they have abundant resources after releasing an opening with better quality than Yuzu-soft latest.
>>50264174define full time
>3 people in the thread reading Shigatsu Youka
>>50265465i like how the title is untranslatable HFK
Do anons here keep 3x3s of their favorite girls? I'm planning to make one.
>>50265570I know my favorite girls by heart no need to make a 3x3 of them.
new kataoka https://store.steampowered.com/app/4042330/
When does it stop hurting?
unironically got better japanese learning advice here than on djt
>>50266355djt is shit for anything except the learning resources links because at its core its just a fucking general thread (and not the comfy kind for a dead IP kept alive by only 6 people)It's more like a gacha game general where everyone is ironic shitposting and ragebaiting to "be cool"
>>50266546it's a private discord as many other general, the only difference is that now that chatgpt exists it's mostly offtopic blogposting
>>50266051Never
>>50263222I'm N3 too (probably) and I thought Manosaba was pretty easy. Though if it's your first time reading a VN in Japanese anything will be difficult.
Awful thread so far. DJT should either contain itself to their crossboarder shithole or fuck off from /jp/.
>>50267668I'm more shocked that there are still people trying to learn japanese for VNs. Like, what even is there left to learn japanese for? Back in 2015 at least you had stuff like Muramasa, Dies Irae, Baldr Sky as your holy grail, but what is the equivalent nowadays?
>>50267799Muramasa is still untranslated.
>>50267799With the rise of AI translations, there is no better time to learn japanese than now, unless you like eating shit of course
>>50267799I never even considered wanting to read those VNs back when I want to learn Japanese. I just wanted to be able to read Japanese media without having to rely on shitter localizers or worse MTL patreon bullshit.
>>50267799If I'm going to waste my life consuming slop I might as well learn something new, besides it's more fun reading them raw and there are still plenty of untranslated vns worth learning for like oretsuba, sakuuta and toki, sakura moyu, rance x, albatross, amakano, etc
>>50267799Monmusu Quest! Paradox RPG ShuushouRance X -Kessen-Tobira no Densetsu ~Kaze no Tsubasa~Shigatsu YoukaSakura no Toki -Sakura no Mori no Shita o Ayumu-Sakura no Uta -Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau-Sakura, Moyu. -as the Night's, Reincarnation-BLACK SHEEP TOWNAmakano 2+My Merry MaybeSakura Taisen 3 ~Paris wa Moeteiru ka~Saihate no ImaOre-tachi ni Tsubasa wa NaiMama×Holic ~Miwaku no Mama to Ama Ama Kankei~Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Maid Gakuen!Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Bunny Gakuen!Sengoku † Koihime ~Otome Kenran Sengoku Emaki~Kitto, Sumiwataru Asairo Yori moSchwarzesmarkenKajiri Kamui KaguraBunny's Mama Daikou ServiceMahou Shoujo no Majo SaibanMachiMaitetsu - Last Run!!Albatross KoukairokuEden's Ritter - Chapter 2 - Gokuetsu no Ryuukoujo Hildegard HenKouyoku Senki ExS-Tia 3Amakano ~Second Season~+Shin Koihime † Musou -Kakumei- Son Go no KetsumyakuD.C.5 ~Da Capo 5~Tsuki no Kanata de Aimashou: SweetSummerRainbowShin Koihime † Musou -Kakumei- Ryuuki no TaimouAmakano 2Bengarachou HakubutsushiYoukoso! Sukebe Elf no Mori eKagerou TouryuukiKyojin-tachiToaru Hahaoya no Ayamachi ~Yukari Sono Kouhen~Tsumamitsu Neburi ~Mureta Yawahada ni Koishite…~Kyonyuu Fantasy 5 -Ouji Leen-Mamagoto ~Mama to Naisho no Ecchi Shimasho~Meikei no LupercaliaAmaenbo FuyuAmakano+Saiaku Naru Saiyaku Ningen ni SasaguMonobeno -Happy End-Tsuki no Kanata de AimashouMorenatsu.Ikusa Megami Zero
>>50267861>Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Bunny Gakuen!This.
>>50267799Imagine wanting to read a VN that's not relatively well-known only to get cockblocked because there's no translation. Or I guess you can MTL now if you enjoy garbage.
>>50267861>Motto! Haramase! Honoo no Oppai Isekai Oppai Maid Gakuen!This.
>>50267861>Kitto, Sumiwataru Asairo Yori mobest here>Saihate no Ima>Ore-tachi ni Tsubasa wa Nainot far behind>My Merry Maybei should play this>Shigatsu Youkareading>Amakano 2+skip>Meikei no Lupercaliadropped
>>50267799>Like, what even is there left to learn japanese for?every visual novel originally written in japanese
>>50266355This thread is unironically one of the least toxic places on this website. Average "weeb" is disingenuous trash that's addicted to borrowing others opinions and will never learn Japanese for love towards the hobby like the soulless EOPs above fishing for (You)s
>>50268002at least we didnt learn a dead language in the age of grok :laughing: u nigga dumm as hells
>>50266912I've been learning japanese for 6 years by going to japanese language classes (1.5 hours/week) and "watching" anime on my 2nd monitor. I've never studied kanji or vocab seriously and most japanese I know came from subconscious learning from background noises (2nd monitor anime) and grammar I've learnt during classes. Somehow it was enough to pass N3 but I think that's unjustified. I wanted to start learning japanese more seriously buy I can't be bothered with grinding anki, because whenever I start, the first 2 weeks is shit I already know and after that I don't have enough willpower to continue the grind.
>>50268045>6 years>japanese language classesbruh if you used anki for 4 years you would have N1
who cares about these useless testsjust read vinnies
>>50268056That requires actual discipline.
>>50268045>and "watching" anime on my 2nd monitor.kek, many have been doing this
>>50268018I notice a kind of obsession with """dumb niggas who learned japanese in the grok era""". I wonder what causes this behavior? Inferiority complex or something like that?
>>50260119Nekonade Distortion
>>50267799I learned japanese to play Ryu ga Gotoku games in the original language.
Just started Shigatsu Youka and it's asking for my name.I usually just use some random japanese name whenever these come up because an english name is usually out of place, but what'd you guys do here?
>>50268056funny thing to say when half the thread is people saying you shouldnt use anki
>>50268292>he still hasn't though of how to write his own name with atejifake jop
>>50268292i used my japanese name so 鬼作
>>50268292I always use my own name when I get the option to. If I only had a western name I'd probably do something like taking the name of a protagonist I like
>>50268309ateji is even more ridiculous than just using english.
>>50267861>BLACK SHEEP TOWNStarted this a couple of days ago and one of the characters had sex with a tranny. Wtf, I thought Setoguchi was /ourguy/?Other than that seems nice and runs well despite being Unity.
>>50268292Both my first and last name are nouns, so I came up with a Japanese first and last name with the same definitions.I've used it in so many games and VNs that it just feels like another way of saying my real name at this point.
>>50268292I just leave the default name on, even when they put the companies name like marmalade
>>50260119Trying to finish up Axanael by the end of the year. Does anybody know how many endings there are and how to get each one of them? I'm thinking of doing the True End last and I have 3 endings done so far.
Ikusa megami 2 remake when?
>>50268347>Wtf, I thought Setoguchi was /ourguy/?lol what'd you expect, bro's stories go "my father was more successful than me, so i'm very depressed, i love nihilism and trannies. also trust no one else besides yourself", compared to chadkishi07's "entitled distrust sowing pieces of shit, trust your friends"
>>50268631retard
>>50268631>chadkishi07Never written a single good VN award
>>50268638/vn/ is that way lil bro
moebutas, what does each yuzu, atarashi and toneworks do best? do they have different things they are the best at?
>>50263222>I want to read something easier but modern.https://vndb.org/v20406https://vndb.org/v28644https://vndb.org/v18778https://vndb.org/v29445https://vndb.org/v50215https://vndb.org/v26414
>>50268756>Loopers kinoBased
>>50268347>another highly praised VN with tranniesAre transexuals the secret to kamige????
>>50268793There is no law stating that a fake can't surpass the original.
So what's a decent VN written by R07? That guy gets a lot of shit but I have a hard time believing everything he writes is that bad.
>>50268849umineko is literally the best vn ever made
>>50268850>the best vn ever madeThat would be Rance X
>>50268852that's just a video game
>>50268850Uhhh sister??? I believe the unanimous agreement for best vinny is Muramasa. Even girls love Kageaki, a fujo even made him gay in their BLge.
>>50268849Go ask in the ryukishi thread. The only work of his I've read is Higurashi and it was the worse piece of shit VN I've read. Not to say you can't have fun reading it, but it's so badly written and purposeless that you can see the point where the plot literally morphs into a different plot halfway through. Guy needs to desperately look up what Knox's ten commandments are.
>>50268850I kind of want to know what goes on in the minds of people that unironically think this. One of the worst things I've ever read.
Opinions about Rose Guns Days? Umineko and Higurashi are mediocre but what about his less popular stuff?
>>50268702Amakano games(with the exception of 3) and hoshiori / gin iro strong points are being pure romance stories featuring the entire romance package(starting during highschool and progressing into marriage life concluding with kids endings) set in what it feels it would be the early 2000s(before social media destroyed everything)For the azarashi catalog all of their works are vanilla romance of different kinds while toneworks has hatsukoi another vanilla love story and tsukikana which i never played but seems to be full blown drama
>>50268916thanks but i mean like, does each moege studio have something that they excel at. like comedy for smee or character interactions for yuzu
>>50268849Iwaihime. Butas got filtered due a certain early scene with one of the heroines but honestly it is their fault for being such pussies, it was not even that controversial.
>>50269204can you elaborate on the nature of the scene? i can't imagine ryukishi putting in something very weird
>>50269222No CG, one of the heroines licking the feet of her fiancé(not MC)
>>50269249Gross, blacklisted.
>>50268899RGD is pretty good. It's kinda like Black Sheep Town but with a more political bent. The main focus is the drama between the American/Japanese/Chinese factions so there's a lot of political commentary.
>>50269269is there any merit to this guy being ryukshi's best character? better than beato/erika?
>>50269273>better than beato/erika?not a high bar
>>50269269>It's kinda like Black Sheep Town but with a more political bentActually sounds kinda interesting but I'm still wary of his writing.
>>50269276they're literally the best mystery genre characters along with nagito from sdr2
>>50269282oh youre just trolling got it
>>50269249>women licking men feetFootfeetism is a fetish made for dogs. I don't think people who like it are humans.
>>50269288nagito may be gimmicky but he's legitimately a beast of a character... let's put aside our biases for popular works and acknowledge when something good is good
>>50269273I don't know if he's R07's best character. Most of the hype around him is due to the fact that he's a really crazy villain.
>>50269269And the card battle system is SOVL. RGD is easily one of his best vns.
>>50268756Thanks, I really like Loopers artstyle. Will check it out.
>>50269496Be sure to check out Plus
>>50269503The steam version doesn't have plus, right?
>>50269507No, new CGs were too lewd for steam.
>>50268702Yuzu are the king of making unnecessarily long moeges. It feels like their games are 10 hours too long.
>>50269540Somebody asks about Yuzusoft and Tonework's and you say YUZUSOFT is the long one?
>>50269540not a problem when you skip routes of girls you dont likeif anything routes are too short
>>50269543Never read them, unless someone gives actual statistics I'll assume you fell asleep while reading one.
>>50269595Individual routes in gin'iro haruka are as long as entire yuzusoft games.
It's not hyperbole, by the way. For reference, Mizuha's route in Gin'Iro Haruka is 400k characters long. Dracu-riot is 450. And Mizuha's route would probably be even longer except the author had to cut massive chunks of it.
>>50268702uhh i think yuzu = fun moe, amakano = sweet moe, toneworks = passage of time moe
>>50268872>purposelessWhat did you mean by this? Every chapter in Higu had its purpose
>>50268899I loved it, it's my favourite VN from the author.I especially liked how the narrative was told from the perspective of different characters throughout the story. Also the music was a banger.Played it in English though
>>50269602And yet I struggled with Dracu Riot having to read the game in multiple routes across a year to fully read it (fuck me Azusa's route was fucking boring). Meanwhile I breezed through Mizuha's route in like 2 weeks or less.
>>50268868>Even girls love KageakiI'm surprised they don't like Takeda more. Did they just not play Hanachirasu? But I guess Kageaki would appeal more to girls that play VNs.
>>50268868kusomasa insists upon itself and the retarded shills insist is the best thing when it is actually not
>>50269809true, it's a 9.5 midge, not a kamige
>>50269809the writer made hanachirasu which does not insist upon itself. if you wanted something concise you should just have gotten that. and i like it more than muramasa anyways though muramasa is the better vn
typo...
>>50269809>insists upon itself Literally most VNs do this because the writers don't believe that the retarded otaku reader (you) is capable of understanding anything.
>>50270179this, the only except is sca_ji, that's why all the brainlets are filtered so easily
i like how setoguchi keeps every scene as succinct as possible but it's still boring as shit
>>50269790Kageaki's voice actor is really good despite his bad reputation, he voiced a lot of popular otome characters. Pretty sure that's a big reason they even bothered with Muramasa. Also I think Akane is more of an outright asshole even though his fujoshit looks might be more appealing. Women like men who cry.
Is LimeLight Lemonade Jam better than Musicus?
>>50270365>Pretty sure that's a big reason they even bothered with MuramasaI'm always surprised by how isolated the eroge crowd and the otome crowd are. Like, you'd at least expect them to play WA2, but no. It's such fucking disrespect. We invented this medium, yet they look down on eroge and find it dirty. They could at least play a few of our best titles to pay respects.
>>50270414yes
>>50270424>deletes his post to whine more
https://vndb.org/v23205is swallowtail good and fitting for wa2 fans?
why should I read whitecuckalbum2 when there's already real life and 3dpd??
>>50270734the fourth best heroine is still better than 98% of 3dpd
I only read chuunige.
I'm about to read Sakuuta, based on the current available information regarding the 10th anniversary edition would it make sense to wait until that's out or just read it now?
>>50271420nah, just read it now. enjoy
>>50271420Up to you. The new version has more BGM tracks and all side characters get voiced which is nice and all, and I was thinking of waiting for it myself but I ended up just going ahead and reading the original.
>>50271433is Naoya still unvoiced?
>>50271619Sadly yeah
>>50265570I made one 3 years ago
>>50270847Same, we are eating good next year.
>>50267799> Like, what even is there left to learn japanese for?Moege.
>>50269655If someone tells you "yeah there's this guy named Akasaka, he's a cop Rika knows", you can skip episode 4.
>>50273284Thank you, I acknowledge there is a cop called Akasaka who Rika knows and will skip episode 4.
Does anyone have the Kishin Hishou Demonbane W10 patch? Apparently it is on AnimeBytes.
>>50273600Do you mean the crack? I should still have it.
>>50273615nta, could you post it? I installed it the other day, and it needs to be mounted every time I want to play.
>>50273615Not sure if it was a crack, apparently there is a patch that makes the game work well on w10
>>50273625Sure. Should be this.https://www.mediafire.com/file/cjf80g56575andu/KishinHisho.zip/file>>50273644Ah that sounds like something else then. If I remember correctly, the game doesn't run on 64-bit systems out of the box (e.g. Windows 7 will have problems too) so maybe it's related to that. I use wine though so that was easy to get around.
>>50273661thanks
>>50273600Is it worth playing the All Ages version of Demonbane with all of the extra content?
>>50273793You may as well since an anon here made a patch to put the h-scenes back into it.
>>50273796Was it the zip file sent earlier or something else?
>>50273802see >>46645649
>>50273803Holy shit thanks. I'm surprised nobody bothered putting this patch up on vndb yet, usually the site is super autistic about patch history. I guess I'll start Demonbane in JP this time.
Going to start Nursery Rhyme
>>50273835still the best OP ever
anyone have 修正パッチ for the new yuzusoft? the official support page links to a dmm page and I dont have an account
>>50273870https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/pcgame/yuzu_0012/yuzu_0012p3.zip
>>50273644It runs somewhat with the patch but not well at all, crashes a ton in many fights, had to use a clear save to skip some and finish the story. Nitro should release updated versions of their entire library instead of whatever they are doing now aka nothing or releasing utter shite like Dolls Nest
>>50273923thanks anon. I'm surprised they don't have their server check for unauthorized direct downloads like this
>>50275040>I'm surprised they don't have their server check for unauthorized direct downloads like thisWhat do you expect from the guys who put time travel ntr into their shit...
In need of help. Any recs for something light yet not ultra brain dead to help me love myself a bit better and fend off the dark inner demons? You're the only ones I can ask
>>50275105yuki koi melt
Anything similar to this?https://vndb.org/v46795
>>50275112https://vndb.org/v34056 if you just want something with 2 mesugaki heroines and don't care about body type.
>>50275109looks nice, but why do you feel it would be uplifting enough
>>50273284>you can skip episode 4.No you can't, it's literally a chapter that hints at Rika looping, which is a part of a mystery. Skipping chapter 4 means you skipped pretty big part of foreshadowing of something that will be revealed later.
>>50260119oretuba then uta 10th
>>50264003smartest guy in the thread
>>50268899his best by far besides a weird rushed ending absolute fucking kino quite said that ppl only see rk07 as that wtc guy and not for the real shitbasically when he writes a normal story without all the gay meta shit it feels very geniune and has insane kino moments that arent just a vehicle to push some gay life message
>>50275105air
>>50273836I remember my friend showed me the OP back in '09 so its very nostalgic for me.
https://youtu.be/T43FTQ75HxU?si=3LssIrlmzNyvvnYmSakuuta reference
>>50276294formerly Sakusneed
>>50275124Yeah, I need more mesugaki nukige. Thank you
>>50275105Amakano 3.Unless you have intrusive thoughts about how you're older than your parents when they had you and you have no prospects and no future and maybe you should just rope it, in which case something else instead.
>>50277820Is 3 superior to 2 in any way?
>>50277848In terms of h-scenes it's a direct upgrade.In terms of plot, it actually tries to have a serious plot for a bit in a couple of routes and in one of the routes it'll really piss of the guy here who hates gin'iro haruka., and I think your opinion on it overall will depend on how much you like the plot or not. Basically I think it takes more risks than Amakano 2, but if someone said the risks didn't pay off for them and they preferred to I could understand where they're coming from.
>>50277820I have prospects, sort of, I just get lost in the darkness and have found that it's getting harder to love myself every passing day. I have also found that this is entirely internal since from the outside I seem to be quite "successful" but this is hard to recognize and accept the love from myself and others.In any case, it looks nice, I might pick this one up
So after a while you guys just read and entirely stop mining and doing repetitions? Does that work for word retention when it's some very obscure term? Im getting tired of anki but I feel I don't retain things well if I'm not srs'ing
>>50277894If it's an extremely obscure term you can just look it up and learn it, the same as you would in English.If it's an obscure term that keeps coming up, it's probably not obscure?
>>50277897right, but do you retain it without mining/anki?
>>50277899You just do, if you come across the word again and you don't remember you look it up again, eventually you learn it, or you never see the word again and it doesn't matter.You also just learn to not care, you figure out the meaning from the context of the sentence and the kanji that make up the word, even if you've never seen it before.
>>50277899>>50277894lil ankibro doesn't know about in-context learning, baka
i had little expectations with regard to the feels but the emotional storytelling in 詫言編 really swept me up. im glad there was some thought put in for me who only reads nakige
>>50277860>it takes more risks than Amakano 2That's a good news. I found Yuuhi's route to be sort of like a parallel to Honami's route from second season.
Honami my beloved.
>>50277848I found it way worse, personal problems aside, as >>50277860 said they got too cocky when all the risks they took with amakano 2+ succeeded so they doubled down on taking even more risks for this and ended up ruining it. Like one of the things they did was doubling down the "point of view" time of the heroine to the point is overdone, even the h-scenes being from the point of view of the heroineThen again i only read one route so maybe i read the worst one.
>>50279014>even the h-scenes being from the point of view of the heroinePicked up. Which route was it?
>>50277899You don't do flashcards every day to brute force memorize all of the obscure English words you know, right?It's the same with Japanese. You just don't need to do that.
>>50279243all of them
Finished the third ending in Shigatsu Youka.So far Haruka's mom is the most suspicious (her taking out the 生ゴミ is pretty suggestive), with Natsumi's mom being a possible co-conspirator.Also the death date of Haruka's dad is clearly strange, the incident occured on 788. I really hope this isn't just a typo.What I got so far is that the Niimura family is on some super drugs from a cult or something and Natsumi got her powers from being in contact with Haruka's dad's blood when she was small.
>>50279467not ready spoilers but how far are you in?
>>50279486Just finished the third ending where Erina tries escorting Natsumi home, but Natsumi gets beheaded and then Erina awakens or something after being drenched in blood.
>>50279498i mean out of how many ending, how many hours are you in, etc...
>>50279467Actually, that's quite fucking spot on, lmao
Does Shigatsu Youka have a romantic focus like Ever17? Sensitive monologues and all that.
>>50279505Guess I'm like 13.5% in with 13 hours of game time.I leave the game on while doing other things sometimes so dunno how accurate the time is.BTW is it possible to run out of points so your hard stuck and can't unlock references?
Anyone here know where I can get a physical copy of Demonbane ?
>>50279595that tracking stuff ui pleases my autism
>>50279467you got it moslty right, but those things are just the tip of the iceberg>>50279542No romance for the main characters but some of the subplots revolve around romance to some extent>>50279595>BTW is it possible to run out of points so your hard stuck and can't unlock references?No, the points (and reqs) are removed once you clear the game, but it's possible to lag behind i think.
>>50279765You'd have to scour auction sites and stuff because it's out of print.
>>50280015It's around 120$ on ebay lol.
>>50280104This one's not too bad.https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m1123282648
>>50280119Thanks anon, this one looks goodhttps://buyee.jp/item/jdirectitems/auction/g1192740438?conversionType=jdirectitems_auction_DirectSearch
>>50280157>>50280119>>50280104>>50280015>>50279765just buy a disc printer and make a copy yourself
>>50280157That's the original release. Not sure if you wanted that or the PC all ages version they did later.
>>50278436Wait a second, I never saw this cg>Ver2.0.0.4holy shit I've been on 1.16. The thought of it getting a significant update since whenever I downloaded it years ago never even crossed my mind. I'm fucking retarded. No wonder some of the screenshots here showed 祀耀**年 instead of normal dates (why'd they even change that)
should i wait a month for the school days remaster or should i just play it now?
>>50280184just play kiminozo or something until then lil bro
Is Maruto the only top tier eroge writer that doesn't use trannies as a plot device?
>>50279014>even the h-scenes being from the point of view of the heroineIs amakano2 like this?
>>50280177It's over. Well whatever.
>>50280177You mean old versions didn't use the 祀耀 calendar?It seems like a major plot point in the game.
Is it worth reading Gatenkei and dropping it after chapter 1? Is that standalone enough?
>>50280235no, it's mid
>>50280226Nope, everyone's using normal years in my game. It seems like such a major change that I fear I'm going to miss out on something but I'm far too late in to restart and ctrl through everything
>>50279467Actually thinking it over even more, Natsumi's dad is quite suspicious too. The phone ad in the reference has Natsumi saying something like the company's name isn't her dad's company name. Also in the 裏 scenario when Natsumi's mom calls the work place, the person answering is called Kameda, the same name of the guy Haruka called to send her extra pizza home when she called the delivery service. Natsumi says her dad goes on business trips a lot, which seems convenient for doing shady things. Seems like an organization is involved.
Any route in Tsuki ni Yorisou other than Luna that's worth doing?
>>50280387It's been forever since I read it, but I recall ユルシュール's route being pretty good. The rest where whatever IIRC.
>>50280402Thank you.
>>50280383I mean, Kameda was the guy who called back to confirm Haruka's address after she used the delivery service to send pizza home. (Who knows if she actually input her address wrong)
kinda funny how english-speaking people who can spoil shigatsu youka can be counted on one hand
>>50280177>>50280261huh. i installed Shigatsu Youka a while ago, but not too long ago, and just assumed that i had clicked an option upon the first time loading that gave me the 祀耀**年 and forgotten about it.Kind of weird. For your peace of mind, just looking at a discussion a friend of a friend had>i don't think there's any extra story content in 2.0>in fact there's technically less story content since the fucker broke the whole 実況モード from 2.0 and never bothered fixing iti think the main difference is that the text is slightly different. your version>陽がだいぶ傾いてきた。春分の日を過ぎて昼の方が長くなったのを実感する。警察署を取り囲んでいたカラスは、1羽残らず消えていた。my version>陽がだいぶ傾いてきた。警察署を取り囲んでいたカラスは、1羽残らず消えていたsmall autistic changes but not game breaking
>>50280524Thanks. I'm still interested in how the new calendar might be relevant to the story, but I'll probably be able to get a good idea from the information in this version anyways
>>50280524>実況モードwhat's that?
>>50280739if it's any use to you, for reference, this writing was written in 祀耀元年 >>50280748all i know is that it unlocks after 100%ing the story and people largely seem to skip it
>>50280205Only the fandisc for 2, not the base game
>>50280814Oh okay. My first theory about what it was referring to was kind of right, except the current events taking place in 800 means the year of the story in our calendar becomes 1980instead of 2020, which doesn't really make sense unless they changed up a bunch of things to fit it or moved the Genpei war up 40 years... What a weird change.I'm spoilering that in case there's actually some wild plot twist related to it but it's probably not a spoiler at all.
I just watched Jaws. What other shark movies should I watch before I start playing サメ七 so I get all the references?
>>50260657New thread when?
>>50281391deep blue sea
>>50281391Sharknado. They reference Sharknado a looooot.
>>50279243Of the 25 or so h-scenes in Amakano 3, almost every single one is entirely from the heroine's POV or half and half where it alternates. Less than 5 are exclusively from MC's POV, maybe less than 3.I'd love to know why, it's an odd decision. It's not bad, but it's definitely unusual.
>heroine's POV>CG isn't MC's toned body thrusting into youdropped
>>50282758They do make having your pussy ate seem like a very enjoyable experience.
I finished all routes in セイカツ！ ～みんな大好き！ 極めて、えろラボ！～攻略 and what a disappointment, I found out it had a "trap heroine" and the setting was a "sex club" with orgies so I was hoping the group sex tag would include him but no, cowards, the trap only sucked the boobs of a girl once and then just got yaoi holed. I'll keep searching the common sense nukige where the friend or trap also can join in without being NTR and just light hearted sex fun.That said Rikka was very wholesome and the best part of the nukige when I picked her by mistake.
>>50282755>I'd love to know why, it's an odd decision. It's not bad, but it's definitely unusual.Does it improve the h scenes?
>>50282855I think so? It means you can have a lot of internal narration from the girl, which is good. But it's also a lot of descriptions of how amazing and delicious cocks are, which makes me think uncomfortable thoughts.
>>50282859That's good to hear. Is there a clear best route like Tsukimi in Lemonade?
>>50282865There's a clear highest effort route, Letty. It has the most plot and takes the most risks.Whether or not it's the best depends on whether that's what you like; as the other guy mentioned, he hated the risks and wanted it to be safer.
>>50282874Thank you, anon.
>>50282755gay
Is there a site that provides eroge scripts in plain text?
I want to fucking die.
>>50283304Did you play Subahibi or did you not?
New Thread:>>50283321>>50283321>>50283321
>>50283306Yes, but even so I still won't ever have this.
>>50282760>>50282859They are turning you gay
>>50283403>turning
>>50283304Same
