Previous thread: >>50494532This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?
What am I in for?
>>50516079gonna graduate the 1990 and move on to 1991 next>>50516222100iq chuunikino
fennec fennec
Happy new year, bros.
Still alive. Next up, valentines.
it's out
it's in
For me its Dark Elf and blue/red hair Miku.
Happy New Year.Here's all the soft-announcements of upcoming titles from eroge studios I found.
>>50517611new scat_ji???
>>50517652新作 (h2o 20 year anniversary remake)
was the best vinnie of the year truly Ooe
>>50516222One of the most overrated VNs
>>50516222It's good.
still not dead
>>50517920Damn, I wish this nigga the best, but it sure is taking long.
https://x.com/web_marmalade/status/2006394144776761580CURRENT DELAY COUNTER: 0
https://x.com/chipushishi/status/2006379901004177900Oh, hey. This guy's still alive. And his game's actually coming out.
>>50518019First time hearing about it, but cute 同居人.
>>50517652try reading
>>50518036Yeah, he used to do monthly updates on ci-en but stopped updates all of a sudden.
What's your best recommendation for a boy gradually seducing a girl who has a boyfriend? Not rape
Masadabros...
>>50518250I-it's still 2025 in UTC.
Masada moved to Brazil for this reason, so he still has 9 more hours.
hopes and expectations for 2026?
>>50518469I'm most excited for https://vndb.org/v58336 and hope it's good. But Nakajima Taiga has disappointed me more than a few times. Despite having so much potential his works always seem to fall flat.
>>50518469My hope is Eve Bethel actually being good.
>>50518469VNs are getting more popular, so I expect normalfags to bring their striving culture into it and start studying Japanese. So from now on, maybe I'll stop looking up VN discussions online and discuss only with friends, or even start making VNs myself and focus on that.
>>50518469News for Tsukihime
>>50518534lol
>>50518469>hopered garden release datetada remaking rance 4muramasa on steamsca_ji announces sakuotosakuranos getting tld>expectationsnone, i'll be reading eopkinos anyway
>>50518585kill yourself
>>50518598lead the way lil bro
>>50518577It has to come out eventually.
I wish Maruto made a VN again, but I guess he said his piece with WA2 and it's not worth it at all anymore.
>>50518469Hopefully for eroge to die even harder, and looking at the pattern of everything else in the world getting worse im sure this is a safe prediction
>>50518614Well if you want to be optimistic, things are aligned this year for them to actually work on it. The utter lack of any news (not even a new trailer or something) on New Years pretty much confirms that they haven't worked on it meaningfully at all and it's still a long way out from being finished.
>>50517611Hope saga planets announces something this year
manomura
>>50518929Kind of lost some interest when they said Hiro is coming back
>>50518941shes one of the best parts of manosaba though why wouldnt you want more
>>50518974Because throwing in a character from their first game into both of their new games makes it feel like they aren't confident with making completely new casts. Will still read it but eh, was hoping it'd be more disconnected from the manosaba girls
>>50518922Sakaki Kasa and Niijima Yuu seem pretty busy so I wonder who would even write it if there was one.
The long "lost" patch for 滅び朽ちる世界に追憶の花束を has been found and uploaded!Seems like it's still a little bugged, but now you can finally finish the game properly!>vndb link for the vnhttps://vndb.org/v12728>blog with the patchhttps://magierosempai.blog.shinobi.jp/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0/%E3%80%8C%E6%BB%85%E3%81%B3%E6%9C%BD%E3%81%A1%E3%82%8B%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AB%E8%BF%BD%E6%86%B6%E3%81%AE%E8%8A%B1%E6%9D%9F%E3%82%92%E3%80%8D%E4%BF%AE%E6%AD%A3%E3%83%91%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%81%AB%E9%96%A2%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6_2
wow, kakyuusei 2 really sucks. it's just a much inferior product to the first one in general
>>50518516i played the trial but i couldn't stand the writing style, it sucks cause I wanted to like the game so bad. the sol scenes were painful to read. also the UI sucks.
>>50519255Yes. That's the real reason why it's disliked/flopped.
>>50519080Hey I remember putting this on my backlog years ago and never getting around to it. I think I have it downloaded somewhere but never was aware there was some patch. Thanks for the info.
>>50519413it's funny because i'm doing the ntr route right now and it's the only one on the same level as the first game's routes so far lol
Retard here.Anyone know how to stop oldge running at like 5x speed. I'm trying to read Maple Colors but every transition/animation is running way too fast.
>>50519677never experienced this issue but either use vm or cheat engine and set to 0.2 speed
>>50519677If your monitor runs at a higher refresh rate, try lowering it down to 60.
>>50519733It slowed down a bit, but it's still way too fast.
>>50519677i would try a ddraw wrapper like https://github.com/narzoul/DDrawCompat
>>50519677The programmer might have forgotten to make the frame rate independent of hardware. Not sure how to fix that except for running it on a different machine.
charging up to break something in proximity in two
>>50519677Okay I fixed it by downloading RivaTuner and limiting the framerate to 60fps. Thanks, guys.
>>50519948>The ntr blonde guy used to have light skin in the past compared to today where he is borderline blackEven millennial cuckold porn was better
>>50519965also medicine school student, implied he comes from rich family, and he seems to be well intentioned
>>50519948One day I will read this.
>>50519948I will never read this.
>>50519965he is a poor guy getting cuckedand the fat bastards are the game creators cucking both him and the player
Do you ever meet with a girl so nice that you feel like trash for playing around with her? Or is that just me?
>>50519948 (me)yeah no wonder people went batshit crazy over this. they're having sex and they're talking about this dude, the mc clearly has some inferiority complex. being rubbed on the face is the issue
>>50520229playing around with them is the greatest expression of love so no
>>50520229Everyone knows the nice ones are the biggest sluts on the inside. That's why tsundere are so popular, they're simply too insane for any ordinary man to handle, so there's 0 chance you get cucked.
>>50520347Stop applying 3DPD logic to 2D, retard.
>>50520347>they're simply too insane for any ordinary man to handleI just like actually having the feeling of conquering their hearts. derederes are dogshit
Has Avesta been released already?
>>50520451hahaha of course anon
>>50520451lol
>>50520451this year for sure...
>>50520347>tsundere>can't cuck youMeanwhile japs write about yanderes cucking people
>>50518469I'm hoping on making some good progress through my burgeoning antilibrary.
Tsukihime bros won
>>50520942I don't believe you and I won't even check
Any recommended order for Kanon? I figure Ayu is for last given she's obviously the main girl, but are there any opinions on the rest? I decided to finally play this one to start the new year.
>>50521442Shiori -> Makoto -> Ayu is a good order for exploring the main theme of the game, as they build on each other. Nayuki and Mai's routes work with different themes and feel more detached from the other routes as a result, you can play them whenever you want but you probably won't want to save them for last.
>>50518003You think all the delays help them because they can start on their next game earlier?
>>50519948>>50520240Is it really that bad?And as a followup, is Tamaki a heroine good enough to justify her actions changing visual novels forever?
>>50519080Sure nigga just let me get my 2 million yen to buy the disk
>>50521920Game itself was uploaded ages ago.
>>50521920It's on the internet archive.
>>50519080Does anyone have illustrations for vividNESS side-story saved? I know that the text is on archiveorg but omake isn't archived.
God... only minuites in and already I can tell this is hundreds of times beter than modern VN slop put out today, the cg, the writing, it's so much better.
>>50521885>Is it really that bad?Not at all, I'd say it's fairly mild actually. It's not bad, just the presentation is very annoying. If it didn't constantly rub you in the face with it and the framing was more "you had that in the past, and you have me now", it would have been perfect. I'd say most of the insult comes from her being osananajimi. It's understandable people went batshit insane over this, because it's off putting, but it's not that bad.>And as a followup, is Tamaki a heroine good enough to justify her actions changing visual novels forever?She's definitely top tier but not among the best of the best. She's a more mass appealing type. She's worth seeing, I'd say.
>>50522362 (me)Also the worst CG about this (the BF putting his hand in her crotch) is really hard to get, even with a guide, so most of the players will not see that.
>>50518469Meteor World Actor kinoanemoi kinoEve Bethel kinoDimension Lovers kinoAnd as bonus, Red Garden getting a release date.
Sana is cute! CUTE! is Sana edition's common route the same as the regular games?
>>50522413No, they had to rewrite her character to not be a seething man-hating lesbian so Palette just sold her route apart because the difference with the main game would be too jarring.
>>50522425>her character to not be a seething man-hating lesbianbut her being a seething man-hating lesbian and MC crushing her defences and making her a cocksleeve is the best part...
>>50522185Finished the first route, thank god it was the girl I liked, It's forced route story and she came first. It's just a shame I didn't know the h-scenes came back to back, I would have did the edging trick where you can orgasm multiple times in a row, if you know you know.
>>50517611Am I reading that wrong or is alicesoft really implying they will release a gacha this year, and a new title (someday)
>>50522462Can’t wait for Rance gacha
>>50519030>Sakaki Kasawha'ts he's writing?とける風花とシロうさぎ?he's the one writer I'll always pick the new novel he writes.
>>50518469Meteor World Actor, anemoi, Eve Bethel and those two purplesoftge Sugina said KnS4 won't be out in 2026>>50522467if they are doing a gacha, I don't see any others licence beside Rance or Evenicle that wouldn't speedrun EoS in 6 monthsEven Escalayer is depending heavily on Rance's collab
>>50522483>Sugina said KnS4Was 3 not... you know, The Last Episode. Also is KnS good at emotional storytelling or does the melancholic nature aim to be moreso the aesthetics?
>>50522494He said 4 won't be with Reiji, but with a new MC/cast, something like what Cartagra is to KnS I guess
>unskippable section with song and credits right afterFinished Miki route from Aonatsu line and it’s the best osananajimi route in fiction. Very happy to have finished her route today specifically.It’s not a love triangle btw, not even close.
>>50522519>it’s the best osananajimi route in fictionReally? I'll put it on my list. Too bad I started it in summer and dropped it as I wasn't feeling the writing.
>>50522519I finished it back in July so peak summer vibes. Aonatsu Line is the quintessential 青春 summerge. It has misunderstandings, drama, unrequited crushes, self esteem issues etc and best of all it's not very long because each scene doesn't waste your time.
>>50522462They already have a gacha which they were talking about in the previous paragraph. Here's the full statement which should clear things up.
>>50517611Purplesoft teaser is a Mikage game.
How good is Lalajam Tsukimi route at romance? Or is it just a band story?
>>50522519>>50522591Add sibling romance/sex and it would be GOTY.
>>50522677Post confession stuff is whatever, but everything before that is honestly pretty great, some of the best relationship building i've seen in a moege.
>>50522688Got it, thanks anon!
>>50522664I'm a dekinai then, because to me>また来年は、２０２５年中にはかなわなかった、新作タイトルの発表も確実に行っていく予定です。オンラインゲームではない作品も開発中です。It sounds like he implies here that he is talking about 2 titles, one other gacha (新作タイトルの発表も確実に行って) and one VN (オンラインゲームではない作品も)
>>50522664>>50522722Want me to MTL it and see what it says fellas? Looks like japanese is pretty difficult for you huh?
>>50522758I'm an unrelated third party commenting on the situation but I guess MTLbros can be true lifesavers sometimes huh...
she looks so much like the guy from kimetsu no yaiba that i thought it was also parodying that one
>>50521954???I didn't know there was even an omake...Do you have any links about that?
>>50522425Turning lesbians back into straight is good though, is this what actually happens? Because you made me consider actually reading it if that's the case >>50522818Historical japanese names are suck a pain in the ass, I remember asakawa Yuu saying she hated japanese history class because japanese names gave her headaches
>>50522871>Turning lesbians back into straight is good though, is this what actually happens?Is there a graceful example of this? Like one where the MC treats her kind and she steps back out on her insistence and LARP'ing. Not just "dick was too good muh niggah" bs
>>50522836There was a bunch of various side content for this game, the thing I talk about is a sidestory novel with horohana's characters in text format that was hosted on circle website. You can still read it by pasting http://nfs.boo.jp/bouquet/nfs/remembrance/vividness into archiveorg, but the illustrations that I seek aren't archived. Also there's a blog post by a fan that covers all the side content, https://note.com/amaginoboru/n/nb55dd7c96d83
>>50522890Thats not how being a lesbian works.
>>50522916You could try to contact the blogger:https://magierosempai.blog.shinobi.jpSince he was so autistic to make his own patch for the original game, he probably has backed up all of it.>if you manage to get it, please post it over here too, for archival purposes.
>>50522917>being a lesbianbeing generous, i'm skeptical there are more than 500 true lesbians in this world right now. mostly, it's just a strategy to lure in a dominant and socially successful male
>>50522931if he backed up the original patch he wouldn't make his own lol
>>50522931In his blog post, he says he's talked with the original author, so he may have a better chance.
>>50522944Sorry, meant for >>50522939
>>50521807Thanks anon.
Ayu is one of the medium's bestest girls.
>>50523280now read your second heroine route
>>50523296Here is your (You), contrarianfag.
>>50522425>rewrite her character to not be a seething man-hating lesbian What's the point then
Why is every old VN full of cuckshit?
>>50523458Economic bubble burst. Lost Decade.
New learner here, how the hell did you guys bother learning onomopoeia and the such? Is it just one of those things you figure out from context or from repetition?
>>50523479i just feel them out but yeah there are way too fucking many of those
>>50523479Before answering that, I'd like to know why you decided to post this here instead of the thread dedicated to Japanese learning.
>>50523479For me it was repetition, after years you "feel it" and now which is which
>>50523479If I can't figure it out and it's really bothering me I look it up. Kotobank has pretty good definitions for onomatopoeia, so I usually start there.Most of the time you can just ignore it and move on without missing too much, and you'll get a feel for them through experience in the long term. You don't have to stress out too much about the nuance of words like どジャアァぁぁぁ〜ン when you're a beginner.
>>50523458Back then there were more people buying VNs, so you didn't risk bankruptcy if your game had a controversial theme. Now with the declining otaku population writers have to walk on eggshells to avoid offending chiigyu sensibilities.
>>50523525This is the answer to "why do newer games not have cuckshit?" not "why is every old VN full of cuckshit?"
>>50523479Context + "feeling" of the sound as well as just looking them up.
>>50523537Cuckoldry is a pretty old theme. Shakespeare wrote about cuckoldry, Cervantes wrote about cuckoldry, Dostoyevsky wrote about cuckoldry, every other Victorian novel has some form of cuckoldry in it. It's just an easy to way to create drama. Why newer games don't have any cuckoldry is in fact the harder question to answer.
>>50523458Well it was a different time. People are less insecure about their worth and less obsessed with purity. If a girl leaves you for someone else you just find someone better (after punching the other guy in the face if it's actual NTR) or just take the girl back by showing how much better you (and your dick) are. Back in the days even main stream RPGs from Square have NTR.
>>50523560>It's just an easy to way to create dramaIn other words a lazy hack's favorite trick
>>50523560>Cuckoldry is a pretty old theme.The manner was very different however. When old visual novels do NTR, in most cases it can be removed from the story and nothing important will change. Classical authors on the other hand embarked on meaningful psychological or social explorations.
>>505235021) this thread helps out with jp learning more than the jp learning thread ironically enough2) i was drunk when i typed this and i never bothered fixing it when i woke up again>>50523493>>50523506>>50523552also thank you niggas for giving me an answer, take something funny I found reading sumaga as a gift
>>50523611>meaningfullol
>>50523613I NEED MORE HEROINES LIKE THIS RIGHT NOW
>>50523613>this thread helps out with jp learning more than the jp learning thread ironically enoughwho knew that people who already know japanese would give better advice than those who don’t....
>>50523611NTR in a story is the most basic and uncreative way of psychologically affecting a person, everyone will respond emotionally from being cukolded there's nothing special or literarily unique about that form of drama
The selling point of eroge lay not primarily in its ability to divulge a nice cathartic sex scene and illustrate from start to finish a bond crafted from hero to heroine, but rather in its ability to extrapolate on the identities of its male characters and put in center-stage not a feminine element as so often plagues so many other media but instead a principally masculine visage. What I mean by that is, most every other Japanese media out there, irrespective of the perceived selling mechanic point behind which their story unfurls, find themselves unable to actually depict a male character in full and follow along his journey independent, psychically, of other entities. It's strange. They're always caught up in explicating on a truthfully meaningless narrative or, as more commonly seen, on the female character. So strong is the influence of 'heroine' in web novels and manga and all others that they consume the souls of entire projects and warp all contents in a story around them, a feat coming at the expense of potential endearing. Ironically, that's not the case in eroge... despite that eroge is all about heroines. It's a paradox. But perhaps not. Resolving the mystery can simply be answered such: "you'll have your fill of sex and all the delicacies, so let's focus on something else, alright?" That's how eroge begins.In point of all this, just look at the attention garnered by the male characters from VNs and eroge compared to everything else. They shake the world. Well, why does that happen? Why do VNs have such great male characters? It must be because they're male characters proper. They're characters anchored in stories that give them life completely and in the process of their filling enjoin them with the purest of elements rather than a deliberate obsoleting in making them merely a half that needs be filled up with the separate poison called 'heroine'. Muramasa doesn't conjure the image of a woman before all else. It conjures the image of Kageaki. Dies irae doesn't conjure the image of a woman. It conjures Reinhard and Mercurius. Danganronpa doesn't conjure the image of a woman. It conjures the image of Nagito. Whether well known or otherwise, the face of eroge, least the worthwhile ones, isn't that of a woman, it's a man, and precisely because it starts so, with 'Adam', they present stories that push to zeniths great and vast just as in mimicry of God the greatest craftsman. This is why nothing defeats eroge. They tell and are concerned with stories of men, of 'heroes', not 'heroines', and stories of men are the only thing that matter. The primordial archetype is infinite. Try reading a manga and whatever. You'll quickly find them all throwing away exploring the constituent 'I' of its male characters and substituting that with the bothers a woman. They don't give a shit for the male characters. Everything exists in complement to a woman, and as you can imagine, that's a perversion of Divine Order wherein everything otherwise exists in complement to and in subservience of men. All creators everywhere in Japan turn to eroge if they want inspiration for anything just as the world turns to men and pleads them to effectualize their spark to create, to manage, and to do their job as vicegerents of earth. We run to the eroge where there are men for everywhere else there is only 'half-men' or women.
>>50523653>Muramasa doesn't conjure the image of a woman before all else.Conjures Muramasa's fat ass for me
>>50523653>Danganronpa doesn't conjure the image of a woman. It conjures the image of NagitoI still find it funny that people overlook Nagito because he's in a goofier and more popular series, when he's one of the best written characters
>>50523653The anon is arguing that eroge and visual novels succeed artistically because they center fully realized male protagonists rather than orbiting everything around heroines. His claim is that most Japanese media reduces male characters into relational husks whose inner lives exist only to service female characters or shallow plot mechanics, while eroge, paradoxically, frees the male lead to be psychologically complete because sex is already “handled,” letting the story focus on identity, will, and conflict.
>>50523653I do admit that eroge are easier to get immersed for a male reader than manga but that comes with an age paradox, eroge are 18+ and noone above this age unironically immerses into fiction. Besides I don't remember for shit the personality nor looks of male protagonist of many ges, yet easily remember heroines
>>50523751>noone above this age unironically immerses into fiction?????????
>>50523751>eroge are 18+ and noone above this age unironically immerses into fictionwat
>>50523760>>50523775School off for New Year's?
>>50519264Can you describe what you dislike about the writing style, it seems pretty standard to me. The SOL is nothing to write home about indeed and art-wise it looks like they didn't put any effort into the backgrounds (especially in scenes in the the 崩壊世界), but I feel the game will still be worth playing.
>>50523836Those bitches are fat as hell. I've seen wine barrels with better BWH than the girl on the left.
>>50522871>Historical japanese names are suck a pain in the assFor the most part, they're not that bad when you see a lot of names and start recognizing patterns. I thought Chusingura would be AIDS for that reason but it went smoothly.
>>50523836Who cares about the backgrounds? The first thing you notice is the awful character design. Looks ugly and amateurish.
>>50524322kys moebuta fag
>>50524322Looks fine to me.
>>50524341>>50524345nigga this shit looks like an EVN
>>50524360Never seen an EVN with tummies that good.
>>50523836what vinnie is it like?
>>50524389What's vinnie?
>>50524369Based tummychad
>>50524432visual novel
>>50524454So just say visual novel instead of bringing your putrid discord lingo in here, fuckface.
>>50524481The first one that gets translated.
>>50523836The character on the left looks out of RJ265923
>>50524322I like the character designs, they look so soft and lewd!>>50524389I'm not good at comparisons, but the SOL tries to be heavy on the seishun, kind of like Konnyaku, but not nearly as good. As for the chuuni part: the battles in the trial were kind of underwhelming, they remind me more of anime than any chuuni kino VNs. The plot might be decent, depending on how the internal conflict in some H.A.Z.E. members regarding how they have to sacrifice MC and his friends' hopes in order to save their dying world is handled.
>>50524389>>50524574It's basically just Fortissimo but worse and without the kino insert songs.
>>50524665I couldn't go on after the first few hours of fortissimo but the Eve Bethel trial was at least mostly fun with an interesting set up that could be good depending on how they handle it. Both of the games have a shit UI I guess.
>>50524481i'm still finishing up chushingura. black sheep town or sakura taisen maybe. or even maybe, musicus
>>50524695>musicussave it for a time you're busy with life. best read intermittently.
>>50524481Gatenkei and Kawarazaki-ke 2, then I'll be done with Hiruta. Will post my ranking of his works if anyone's interested
>>50524481Realize Meit was okay
>>50524777Just incase anyone was wanting to play this, you get cucked in pretty much every route.
gonna jop wa1
>>50524481I'll continue reading WA2 that i started this december
>>50524807the translation is really good, you should jop novels with worse translations. shiravune should get the same guy to do wa2 desu
>>50524827i don't consider wa1 worth reading at all, i'm only reading it as a thematic prequel of wa2. by jopping it i can cope better with wasting 30 hours on a kusoge
why is this guy having a conversation with himself about translations in the untranslated general
>>50524872forgot i was talking with the ratingschizo, thanks for reminding me
floodtroon is flooding the thread with HRT
>>50524910dunno ask this dude >>50524827
>>50524928do this thread's trolls ever troll beyond subahibi
>>50524481Started Ooe like a week ago so I'm still reading it. I'll probably read Kanon after.
>>50525042best boy
>>50525134>>50525042>yaoi
>>50524783>Developer: MinkPar for the course.
MC seat acquired
Shameless hussy.
>>50519080Upload that shit on archive.org so it won't get lost again.
>>50525770not worth the seed
>>50525770>>50526026That was a joke, can't you take some friendly banters with your opposite sex childhood friend? She even brought you food in that scene. Sure, she later actually does rebound to MC, but still.
>>50524481nekobanana's new ge, but nigga sold preoder steam keys on comike lol i didn't knew about the delay and already took a vacation to bingeread. fuck my chud life
>>50525134Wrong, brother.>>50525162Ooe is a REALLY strong mystery VN. If you like classical Agatha Christie stuff, it's worth a shot. You can ctrl through some h-scenes (but not all).
>>50526251>not being able to fap to BL tooweak
>>50526271I'm just saying that some of the h-scenes are just for fanservice and don't contain plot critical info so if somebody else wanted to read it they could ctrl through the h-scenes. I didn't, I jerked off to it, but you could.
>>50526271>fap to BL?
anyone who didn't get converted into bl addict at サニーガール in 2009 is a newfag
meeiiidoooooss the fujos are leaking outside /blog/ agaaain
>>50526278>h-scenes are just for fanserviceWho the fuck is a fan of two dudes having sex
>>50526437I would assume the fujoshi audience the game is meant for? Also gay men probably like it too.
>>50526438Gross. And Sinful!
>>50516079I'm a turbo moron and to be honest I never understood 吹's role so much when reading sakuuta, she seemed to be like a placeholder for mysteriousness or that's how I remember her. What does intelligent anon think?
I love this
>>50524345>>50524369>>50524574Cute, need deep anal prodding.Like all cute girls, yeah, but especially young, somewhat pudgy ones.
I'm at 95.693% in Shigatsu but I have done seemingly everything. There are no more routes available and I reached the true ending. I viewed every reference and documents etc. I did mess up one dialogue with the "npc" which I can't get anymore though.Does anyone know what I'm missing..?
>>50527790Close and open the game a few times.
>>50527846Ah got it, I closed it a few times actually but figured it didn't work.61k huh.
so it's my first time looking for VNs to play and i noticed that a lot of people in this community actually don't mind MTL patchesthat's wild. when you compare it to MTL translations in anime and manga people get fucking crucified for it
>>50528075vn players are just chill since it's a smaller and more niche medium so we don't really cause problems with each other
>>50528083yes. it's like normal people don't want to start petty shit or else they'll scare away what little community they have leftthough, i can already see from the one thread that i visited that there is still major amounts of autism especially amongst groups
>>50528083>we don't really cause problems with each other...would be cool if ntrfags still died....
>>50528104happy to have you among us>>50528108i love netori and don't have any issues with the chadntrfags but uglybastardntrfags can tone down
>>50528075MLT doesn't mean the same thing it meant 10 years ago...
>>50528144still means eating shit lol
>>50528147maybe on planet dumb luddite
I'm curious what percentage of JOPs demonstrate weaker comprehension of Japanese than the current state-of-the-art LLMs. 40%?
>>5052816020% of jops have 80% text comprehension80% of jops have 20% text comprehensionsota llms are 95% at least
>>50528160The problem is that nowadays everyone who sets up a texthooker and is learning Japanese call themselves JOPs, some never graduate this and still "learning Japanese" after 5+ years, so a lot. If you can't comfortably read a VN without a hooker and with at most 10 look-ups for entire game, you're not a JOP, you are still a learner. For real JOPs it's 0% on rare occasions when it matters.
>>50528075Sadly this community is now full of zoomers and yeah, they dont care about quality at all
>>50528212using a hooker alone disqualifies you from being a jop
>>50528229It says you thought it was a great VN. If I have a great relationship with a person, I won't suddenly hate them after finding out bad things about their past or some harmless things they lied about.
>>50528229What's up with that paragraph about Flyable Heart? It was exposed as an MTL within hours of the patch releasing.
>>50528229>meirinhow old is that post?
>it's another episode of eops come into the thread and make a bunch of arbitrary rules and regulations for playing eroge they can't understandhow do i change the channel on this damn thing
>>50528370
I’ll just share my thoughts on Shigatsu overall while everything is still relatively fresh.If I missed some nuances, please do tell me my Japanese is not perfect, and I had to often look up words.Overall, I would say the game was pretty good. The characters were likable and unique, the story had some cool twists, and it was fairly hard for me to predict. The idea of taking a classic trope like “my dead friend/relative” and turning it on its head like this was great.If I had to pick a favorite character, it would probably be Erina. The author did a good job connecting everything together, and there were many moments where I looked back and thought, “Ah, that’s where that came from.” Considering the gigantic size of the work, this was surely not an easy task.That said, one of my main complaints is that some of the characters’ actions are hard to follow or rather, hard to believe given who they are and the situations they’re in.For example, Mifuyu not only kills Ryouji, but skins him alive and leaves him to be eaten by birds. All because he tried to convince her to let them take care of Haruka? I suppose she’s already crazy at that point, but still. What makes this even stranger is that Akane, in some routes, simply accepts what Mifuyu did and even says she isn’t angry at her. Even considering their bond, this wasn’t just murder it was torture. And given that they never killed any of the kids either, what is going on here?After reading the developer’s notes, it seems this part of the story was expanded later with Shigatsu Youka. Other characters’ insane behavior is usually justified by the green eyes, but that explanation doesn’t work for her, since she isn’t a third generation.Another thing I found odd is how Shigatsu Youka chooses the four people. Sure, it’s partially controlled by the goddess, but even without her influence it seems extremely selective. Couldn’t it create these four within minutes? It knows this is its win condition, yet it seems strangely fixated on very specific people with existing connections.On top of that, it also appears to always be nearby, listening to what people say. For example, in the alternative ending, Haruka calls it simply by stepping out of the car and yelling. It feels like it had way too many ways to either win instantly or prevent any defeat, yet it just doesn’t use them. That struck me as odd. Also, the fact that it just randomly had Natsumi’s balloon was kind of funny.Overall, I feel like a lot of characters do extremely gruesome things and are then quickly accepted or forgiven. When it’s revealed that they sent Mifuyu drugs to help save their kids indirectly causing many murders it feels like they apologize and that’s the end of it. That’s probably my biggest complaint: the consequences feel lacking. Natsumi’s parents in particular behave very strangely on many occasions.That being said, it was still a very cool read, and I enjoyed it a lot. Thank you all for the recommendation!
>>50525770>>50526026>>50526102I'm in the middle of this route right now, just got done with dec24 event, and I actually started to think it's really good. It could use a bit more idealization though. As anon said in previous thread, I think the reason why Kakyuusei 2 is disliked is because the game overall sucks in comparison to the first one, but Tamaki route is probably better than anything in the first game.
>>50528212>For real JOPs it's 0% on rare occasions when it mattersIt's not like looking up a word is a bad thing. If you don't know it you look it up. There's no shame in that. I've read 10+ hours before without pulling out a dictionary at times and other times I check every other word just to make sure I catch every little detail even if I should already know them. I'm fully bilingual though so that's just me. If we're strictly talking about clout farming online by being a jishou JOP then using a hooker is more proof than any that you aren't a JOP.
>>50528424Does it have "a meaningful point to take home" like Umineko or Higurashi, something from which everything originates, a bold statement?
>>50528537Yes
>>50528544Interesting, I'll try it anon, thanks
!!!!!Get fucking hyped
>>50528601Orthros got a good writer for once huh
>>50528075I'm an MTLer, I never use MTL patches because you never know if the translation is accurate or not, by MTLing it yourself you can also see the original japanese and translate MTL errors yourself,
I would be a JOP if only my memory was good.
>>50528842Same. Sometimes it feels like ableism when JOPs bully MTLers or EOPs.
Do you guys still find favorites? How often do your top 10 lists change? My primary medium is visual novels and only one or two change per year. And the first VN I've read is still my absolute favorite. As someone who enjoys this medium, I find it painful that it's harder to make a very good VN than it is to make a very good anime.
>>50529034>harder to make a very good VN than it is to make a very good anime.seems the opposite to me.
>>50529034The last 10+ VNs I've played have all been bad, I think I've probably reached the limit of good VNs.
>>50529036Arbitrary choices, but it feels like it'd be harder to make a Konnyaku than a Kaguya-sama. The medium feels hard to work with.
>>50528601We are back to kino again? Trapshit was so gay and flopped.
>>50529034i have sorted all vinnies from kino to slop so i don't have this problem
>>50529168How do you know they're good until you've played them though?
>>50529168you're a newbro so you still haven't exhausted the classics. go on, go back to your wa1
>>50529175they are sorted by the chance of being a life-changing kino, so obviously i started from the top with 50% ones and then go down until 25%. below 10% is mostly garbage, but there are like 500 vinnies above them so i won't run out of them in my lifetimeit's a simply matter of math
>>50529193i can give you 20 kinos you have never read if you want, oldbro
>>50529034I've had a lot of mobility in my top list recently because I've discovered how much I enjoy SRPGs. I'd only played a small handful before, so I've really been feeling like I'm feasting as I explore all the classics.>I find it painful that it's harder to make a very good VN than it is to make a very good anime.Depends on your perspective. One person can make a very good VN more or less by themselves, but you (generally) can't make a high-quality anime without a studio and a budget.
>>50529034I found out the so "kamige" many like are actually mediocre or outright garbage. If you want something good, you have to find recs from someone who has similar taste as you. I'm stuck with this one long ass mediocre game because my friend, who isn't exposed to better things, kept on shilling it to me. I only really liked one girl in it.
>>50529297>one long ass mediocre gameWhat game though?
>>50529297that's why the secret is checking entries from top to bottom and picking the first thing that interests you.personally i don't care because enjoyment isn't my primary reason for reading vinnies, my main goal is understanding what makes kamige a kamige and why
>>50529323>personally i don't care because enjoyment isn't my primary reason for reading vinnies, my main goal is understanding what makes kamige a kamige and whyeveryone that says is actually reading for the sexual content enhanced by context.
>>50529336>everyone that says is actually reading for the sexual content enhanced by context.half kamige are sfw tho
I started playing KimiNozo Enhanced Edition as my first eroge of 2026, and I'm loving it so far. I'm not that far in so I have no clue what to expect but it's really good, the character interactions are all fun and the movement of the sprites are so impressive. There are so many eye/head movements and tachie variations it's crazy, it's been so long since I played MLA that I don't remember if it was like this. Also, I'm in love with Mitsuki. (please side eye me more Mitsuki unffff)
>>50529774>There are so many eye/head movements and tachie variations it's crazyapparently yoshimune finds visual novels boring so that's why he made it like a movie
>>50529795he's right, muv-luv is better than all the live2d sloppa we keep getting 20 years later in terms of animations
>>50529922>sloppadon't use that word
>>50529935sorry i'm a dumb underage nigger obsessed with ratings
>>50529946every teen goes through that phase, i hope you grow up soon
>>50529774This is the "Enhanced Edition R" that released recently?
>>50525984Done!Please check if everything works, especially downloading the patch.https://web.archive.org/web/20260103000305/https://magierosempai.blog.shinobi.jp/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0/%E3%80%8C%E6%BB%85%E3%81%B3%E6%9C%BD%E3%81%A1%E3%82%8B%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AB%E8%BF%BD%E6%86%B6%E3%81%AE%E8%8A%B1%E6%9D%9F%E3%82%92%E3%80%8D%E4%BF%AE%E6%AD%A3%E3%83%91%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%81%AB%E9%96%A2%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6_2
>>50529774I was flabbergasted the first time I read it. It really felt different from most visual novels. If you really like it, you could play other games by the same developer, especially the muv-luv series.
>>50529935i can make you a userscript that replaces sloppa with another word of your liking. i hope that will help you sleep at night
>>50529774I like Mitsuki too, but my feelings to her is rather like, appreciate her as a “person” than “heroine”. Also her bantering with Takayuki is fun to read. I want them to be happy even if it means they should take a thorny path
What's up with Hamidashi Creative, is it worth playing? I like the music on youtube but know nothing else. I assume it's similar to yuzusoft or random bishoujo moege? Some of the vndb screenshots certainly look like itAlso interesting that there's an official Android release didn't know DMM had those
the good song is ロマンチックを叶えて btw
>>50530645If you like moege you should read it
>>50529774I was meaning to check it out but apparently they cut a shit-ton of content to make it all-ages?
>>50530645Vtumor warning
>>50530808Picked up
>>50529957>>50530779This is the version that came out in December, which adds the h-scenes back, it's not all ages>>50530121>>50530547I just blazed through the introductory part up to the "twist" in one sitting. Lmao I didn't see that coming but I guess I should've expected something like that from the Muv-Luv writer. The prologue was really great though and Akane is adorable, but I have mixed feelings on the twist and the time skip. Though opening up with Mitsuki sex as the next scene after Haruka gets rammed by a car is very spicy. I'm just worried the game will get too caught up in one-upping itself with shock value. I honestly don't remember much about MLA besides the gory death scenes so idk.
>>50530645It's a pretty cute moege. Nothing special, but does what it does well.
>>50530880So you’re already past that infamous Takayuki x Mitsuki scene in ch 2 lol, what a messed up relationship. but sadly this VN doesn’t show you much of what ACTUALLY happened during pre-timeskip, mostly just tell (c’mon show don’t tell). when reading ch 2 I used to think that Takayuki started to going out with Mitsuki because he ALREADY knew that she liked him since high school, but Mitsuki’s route broke my assumption… whenever I talk about these two my heart aches…Agreed Akane best girl. She’s protective, Haruka’s guardian but unlike annoying siscon-ish sister character in VNs
What haruka should’ve done
>>50530960This is what makes me think Maruto was inspired by kiminozo since WA2 does the same thing. The timeskip isn't as severe in WA2 though since the game shows the big happenings Haruka/Mitsuki is a different dynamic than Setsuna/Kazusa though. I think I like Mitsuki more than Kazusa but Setsuna is better than Haruka.
>>50531024Only watched WA2 anime but my friend told me that Takayuki is better than Haruki since Takayuki has redemption arc in Mitsuki’s route while Haruki is an insufferable big liar lol I’ll try WA2 VN someday
>>50531058Well takayuki has the excuse that his gf got hit by a car, haruki doesn't have that lol
>>50529236Any good vinnie SRPG?
>>50531176sengoku rance
>>50531180Already played it.Tried Sengoku hime a few years ago, but it was too buggy for my taste.
>>50528842I literally do shit like boiling my coffee water thrice in a row because I forgot that I already boiled the thing two minutes ago, and that's everyday. Still learned the language just fine so I wouldn't say that these two are related at all.
>>50529774Always wanted to play this, but none of the heroines interest me except for the blonde waitress loli
All this blatant shilling for Rin in the appends makes me really look forward to sakuoto.
>>50531176Mahou Shoujo and Kuon no Kanata
>>50530645If you enjoy moege then you'll most likely really enjoy it, especially the FDs, doubly so if you enjoy imoutos.
Can someone explain to me how out of all of Windmill's games this faggot is the most popular heroine? Are Japs really that gay? I know I'm years late but I just got into Windmill games recently.https://windmill.suki.jp/senkyo/result.html
>>50531948>>50531960Traps are cuter than heroines. Same reason why the Otome Domain MC won Getchu's character of the year.https://www.getchu.com/pc/2016_g_ranking/chara.html
>>50531971But it's a man.
>>50531983You don't have to touch the penis if you don't want to.
>>50531960>>50531971>>50531983most visual novel players are actually closeted LGBTQ. the ones that don't want to admit play rape games to mask their actual inclinations. (me included)
>>50531989But what is the appeal of sticking your cock into a man's caca hole when there are heroines with warm soft pussies in the same game?
>>50531996You wouldn't understand. Some people separate "cute" from "I want to fuck this." Some people don't. I can't change the way your brain works.
>>50529774Bro, what the hell? Enhanced Edition is a WebView2 abomination. And are you really sure the R version really includes all content?You could have gotten the age 20th version of the KimiNozo Latest.
>10 mins after first choice to get into a heroine's route>0 romantic development yet>they're pretty much still acquaintances>kiss scehe out of nowhere...What?
>>50531971>want to check recent years>only up to 20202Damn the coof just fucked everything up.
>>50531960Why do tranny characters always have purple hair?
>>50532401meds
>>50532401purple exists only in our heads, it's the most alien color, something we brought from the other world.
>>50532401Warning colors. On a serious note, I noticed that the trannies always tend to have the brightest hair color in the cast, probably to push them into looking more unnaturally "feminine." How many people would care about trannies if they had a plain natural hair color like black or dark brown?
Any heroine with h scenes that looks like this character? They is very appealing to my taste in terms of design.
Can you guys stop sabotaging my online translators so they give out bad translations please, I'm trying to enjoy my MTL'd VNs.
>>50532819How did we sabotage them? Tell me and I'll stop if I was doing anything wrong.
>>50532843Pretending to help the translationa ccuracy by replacing normal kanji 's english translation with the word "nigger" and other weird things. :(
>MC: "My gf is saying things that are reflect a bad image of heself, I better go to her place and talk to her about it">Gets to her place>MC: "Haah, I'm to tired to be angry anymore, I'm leaving now!">MC: "Ahhhh that girl what an asshole!!! Why is she treating ME like this???!!!"...I truly, truly fucking HATE VN scenario writers. I HATE them. Write something that makes sense you absolute retards.
>>50532893Oh, and then he breaks down crying??? For no fucking reason what so ever??? All he has to do is TALK to her. VN writers KILL YOURSELVES!
>>50532852Oh, are you reading Oretsuba? I'm sure that's just what the original text says. You would have known if you knew Japanese.
>>50532898why do you hate all writers instead of the one responsible for your kusoge? read better games.
>>50532904Because I've been reading back to back dogshit VNs right now. I'm at the end of my rope. Where have all the quality VNs gone from my childhood?
>>50532902Still haven't played this, I'm not really a fan of the navel artsyle, every heroine looks exactly the same.
>>50529774>>50530880ok wait, i literally got the 2001 version working on my computer yesterday because i heard there was an ending where she becomes a dog/slave?. am i supposed to get this new one for all the H and bad ends put back in?
>>50532920Eh, they're cute so whatever. Plenty of VNs with far worse art.
>>50532893>"Haah, I'm to tired to be angry anymore, I'm leaving now!"doesn't sound that crazy
>>50533149He walked in and left immediately after because she was talking to someone else important and not paying attention to him. And this for some reason made him angry,
>>50532893I remember reading about the mc kissing his gf in public infront of his friends and they all went mad at him, like a total 180 personality shift, they were going off on him and there was absolutely no justification for it, the girl was the same age, nobody had any issues with her. I couldn't comprehend it at all except for it possibly being some retarded japanese fear of intimacy.vn was Suiheisen made Nan Mile?, Kashii Masumi's route on the psp ver
>>50533175Sounds reasonable. How can anyone else be more important than me, the protagonist?
>>50532902how do you translate this while keeping the humor
>>50533210Who knows? Not a problem for anyone here because this isn't the translator general.
>>50532902>>50533210blackest martinez in all of shibuya
>>50533210humor?
>>50532893What ge is this? So I know to avoid.
>>50533545Minna no Uta, Onpu's route.
Finding eroge with good comedy that isn't overly reliant on 下ネタ is impossible.
>>50531176My favorite I finished last year was Daibanchou. I found it to be very challenging but super fun and satisfying to make progress in.
Sometimes anime has actual children voice child characters, like Barakamon.Are there any loli VNs with voice acting work from actual children?
>>50534075I don't see why you'd want that unless you're an actual pedophile.
>>50534178That's why I want it
>>50532082I assume it has all the h scenes since I've seen three so far, but idk. I'm not a huge tech guy, I just picked up the latest release since it was the most convenient. And I heard the old release had a bunch of crashes. If there's any missing content I can check afterwards
>>50534204dangerously based
can't tell if that eop shitposting 9 hours ago was one samefagging guy or half the thread is filled with mtlers
>>50534282How about worrying about actual pedophiles rather than MTL'ers?
>>50533811This. So much this. I fucking hate 下ネタ. And now that I think about this, I just hate vulgar topics in general, eroticism is disgusting. And now that I think about it, I fucking hate my dick as well...Holy shit, how did I never realize this, I'm gonna look into if I can just chop it off
>>50534313Why?
reminder to not respond to obvious troll posts
>>50528528>It's not like looking up a word is a bad thing.Not at all. Everyone does it in every language. If you watch Japanese natives trying to read on youtube they can't read anything even slightly obscure and they either ignore those words or wait for their chat to read for them. Or sometimes decide to look up themselves. They still obviously know Japanese. This is not the same thing as Japanese learners who hover over every other word in hopes that eventually they will not. Spoiler, they never do and keep relying on hooker to read forever. Proof? There are discords with quizzes that test your ability to read words without hovering and hookcucks can never pass anything beyond very basic everyday words no matter how long they study and how much they read. 10 years ago JOP meant at least some understanding and knowledge of Japanese, nowadays JOP is "I dowloaded my first VN in Japanese, I also do my Anki every day, 10 thousand cards backlog, bow down EOP peasants". We call them "eternal learners" because no matter how many decades passes, they never leave the phase of thinking about themselves as active learners of Japanese
>>50534445>"eternal learners"Well this is not really an insult. Everyone is an eternal learner if you're serious about mastering a skill. I doubt you know everything about your mother tongue, let alone your second language. I do agree that people should drop hooking as soon as they can though (if they even need to use it in the first place).
>>50528212You're a retarded troll but if you're going to be reading something with a unfamiliar topic or writing style in any language, you will be reading slowly and looking up everything. Why do you think people take forever to interpret research papers, legal documents or even Shakespeare in English? The retards who spend 10+ years hooking and bragging about it probably are MTLing everything blindly without thought and Anki grinding so basically nothing.
>whitenoising= jop
>>50534494>I doubt you know everything about your mother tongueIt's different because myself or any other human would not consider themselves to be active learners of their language, even if they do learn new words and get better every day. Even ESLs eventually get over it, see themselves as knowing English and start improving passively. There's something special about eternal learners who after 5 years still just hover over words adding them to anki and have a hobby "learning Japanese" in their bio who will now come out of the woodworks to cope how it's normal. >>50534538>You're a retarded troll but if you're going to be reading something with a unfamiliar topic or writing style in any language, you will be reading slowly and looking up everything.Looks like you are the retarded one because I never said or implied anything that should make you believe I think this is not true. Learning Japanese is ok. Texthooking while you are doing this is ok. Calling yourself a JOP just to feel empowered over EOPs while you are trash at Japanese is laughable.>>50534580Are you mad eternal learner? You can't conceptualize not whitenoising without hooking? You will never be able to comprehend this because you are helpless without your learning tools, but let me blow your mind. 100% of natives don't texthook and they understand texts just fine.
im a native english speaker and i texthook EVNs
>>50534615>Calling yourself a JOP just to feel empowered over EOPs while you are trash at Japanese is laughable.And literally no one is doing that here, you fucking drooling monobrowed ape. Maybe you stay in your pedophile groomer discord and tell that to the children who act like that.
>>50534633You seem really mad over this for no good reason so I think it's safe to assume you're exactly the "eternal learner" type that guy is talking about
>>50534642Take a shower rajeet, you stink.
hooking is a tool for easy mining who cares
>>50534655>miningwhy do you need this
I have to texthook everything in social media nowadays including places like "4chan" and "tiktok". Nothing what kids these days say make sense. What is "frfr no cap", "bussin", "foid", "moid", "tif", "nlog", "alog", " nigel", "finna" even mean?
>>50534659unironically though I don't know what most of these mean
>>50534633Than there's no reason to get mad, I was not talking about anyone specific. It's just something you often see now on the webs, people will go from making fun of EOPs in one post to proudly showing their anki streaks moments later. It happened because learning tools quality skyrocketed in recent years and you need close to zero knowledge of Japanese to somewhat comfortably read visual novels in Japanese now.
>>50534660I still don't know either. English is becoming more complicated than Japanese every year unironically...
>>50534658it's just supplementary exposure to vocab you come cross
