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Discuss cheap solutions to the drone problem.

Not welcome:
>dronefags
>laser fags
>missile fags
>unknown technology fags
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>>64684783
>what is SKEET
>since 1992
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>>64683443
It took like 5 second beetween his first shot and the explosion.
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There's really no such thing as a drone, either talk about SSL (your little quad copter things), loitering munitions (mini global hawk type things) and medium range glide bombs.

Because there's a fairly clear cut distinction in how they attack a target. Glide bombs are much like cruise missiles on the threat they present, point defence will wipe out ssl, but guided munitions are generally needed for loitering munition.
And the cost and threat level play into that.

For example glide bonds are a legitimate threat to artillery and stationary AA. They're hard to detect over the distances they can cross, point defence isn't usually sufficient, there's a many-to-one threat against hard targets like missile guidance and command centres.

Ssl are typically deployed from close range so targeting the operator is an entirely legitimate response and this can be a symmetrical fight.

Loitering munitions, tricky in that you don't know when they are receiving signal, often to small and too cheap to target with aircraft, aircraft which would be more venurable at those altitudes.
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>>64687203
No one is discussing glide bombs or cruise missiles here nor is anyone going to use your gay terminology.

Just call them FPV drones.
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>>64681585
Omnidirectional EMP device strapped to a returning boomerang. Activate it in your hand, throw it so it curves near the drone, distruping it's electronics. Returns to your hand when it has done its job.
Just design it to use AA batteries and you can use it over and over. Might need an araming mechanism where rotating activates the EMP device.

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Based Canada
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>royal canadian navy
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>>64683895

Actually uk is lobbying hard in the poland and canada tender since babcock has maintenance and supplier contracts for both hanwah and kockums.

Germany is fighting an uphill battle and has only their extreme high quality and superior engineering to back them up.

Let's not forget that the Brits Europe created the "Made in Germany" label to ostracize German products. That also backfired because of superior engineering.
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>>64669324
>Based
>le*fs

Pick one.
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>>64671483
So you are going to get BTFO and forcibly annexed by a country of dysgenics who poop their pants. Doesn't reflect well upon you.
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>>64683985
But you'll have to survive for 5 years on Hackepeter only and a boring g*rman gf for the rest of your life ?

For those that don't think .45 ACP is better than 9mm,

consider the 5.56mm NATO velocity is approx 300ft/s greater than 7.62 NATO (same case of 9mm being 300 ft/s greater than .45) but the 7.62 is bigger caliber and 2.5x the mass and makes the world of difference
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Also if handguns rely on permanent cavity alone, then logically a bigger diameter wound is ideal. A .45 jhp can expand to be the size of a 12 gauge slug

Clearly .45 is the superior pistol round

imagine a zombie apocalypse scenario and you have to clear out this structure
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>>64687259
imagine the smell
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>>64686978
Machine gun mounted drones make the zombie apocalypse pretty lame
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I put one of those dog cone things on my dong but it's like 20 feet wide and funnels em right to my crotch. Then I just start banging my way down. They can't get around it and just get sucked into a whirlwind of depraved, sick, degenerate, fucking. I'm talking banging their puss filled blisters raw dog till they melt from my syphilis and hepatitis. It'll be like reverse world war z with those pathetic fuckers trying to claw their way away from my hungry dong but the tunnels will give them no sanctuary. The UN will beg the Finns to seal the tunnels and keep me from resurfacing but they don't know I can nut through 100 feet of solid rock.
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>>64686811
Pretty much what Russia went through in Azovstal
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>>64686811
>you have to clear out this structure
Why? I don't want to go in there. Looks like they're stuck in a place I have no interest in. Guess I'll just bugger off someplace else.

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We have nuclear powered subs.
Why dont we have nuclear powered surface ships besides carriers?
Also, how much supplies are flown in for carriers out at sea? Is it a constant stream of helis just carrying supplies? Where does the supplies come from? The pacific is pretty fucking far from America.
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>>64686859
Cant they just fly them in? Its a floating airfield.
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>>64686866
>Its a floating airfield.
the advantage is the floating part, cheaper and easier to just float stuff to it
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>>64686611
>>64686691
>>64686725
>>64686746
>E=MC2
>muh squared velocity
Same reason why things like Aurora would need ridiculous amounts of thrust (the SR-71 had it but wasn't designed to graze up to the near-hypersonic regime obviously) and Mach 4-5 cartridges are super necked down from their parent cartridge.
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>>64686567
>Also, how much supplies are flown in for carriers out at sea?
why ignore subs? those need supplies, too.
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>>64686644
those are USN problems due to pork barreling.
French Navy just uses civilian reactors on their SSN. French CVN then gets SSN reactors.

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Are you prepared for Nuclear War? How do you even deal with widespread radiation? Apart from going south to Argentina
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What blew up now?
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why worry about something that's not going to happen?
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>>64683843
Those places will still get nuked for fun
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>>64683800
> How do you even deal with widespread radiation?
1) Stand outside
2) Inhale
3) Exhale
4) Go back inside
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>>64686097
Shut the fuck up with your pedantic bullshit you moron and go educate yourself on why that place is actually closed off, god damned idiot. The mods should ban people like you for these incredibly low quality shitposts where you attack people who actually know what they're talking about you dumbass child.

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Still reeling from the sheer retardation of the Battleship proposal, plus that it'll be replacing the DDG(X) project.

But the FF(X) looks good. It won't have VLS in it's first flight, but it'll have an established supply chain and available logistics for repair and maintenance. As long as they don't try to make more capable than it needs to be, i think it'll be a good boat.
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>>64674272
>90% of this monetary debasement will hit abroad
Only about 25% of US federal debt is held by foreigners. Monetary debasements hits Americans first and foremost.
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>>64682181
>We know FREMM is a long way away from 9070.1 Level II
why would a fremm be less survivable than a us fleet supply vessel, let alone "a long way away"?
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>>64687061
Because Constellation was the result of the Navy trying to upgrade the FREMM to level 2.
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>>64687281
Proofs? Because I've never seen a specific survivability level referenced to the Constellation.
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>>64687281
>WHO NEEDS MISSILES WE NEED TO ARMOR A TINY FRIGATE AND PUT IN REDUNDANCY SO IT CAN SLUG IT OUT WITH BATTLESHIPS LIKE ITS 1915

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What are the strategic implications of Russia deploying (literal) cavalry wave attacks against Ukrainian positions and drones in the last month of 2025? Has the eyebrow been raised?
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>>64687136
I'm not a fan of horses, but like all domestic animals they deserve respect and care. Which is a very 'modern' view as prior to widespread motor transport, animals tended to suffer terribly when used in wars by the millions of them pressed into service.
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>>64687136
Is it really any worse than abbatoirs and slaughterhouses
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>>64687136
>>64687149
>>64687155
Animals, especially domesticated animals, have an innate kind of innocence. The horse doesn't know what the fuck is going on, it didn't sign up for money, pride or honor. It harbors no malice, there is no pay off, no happy endings, its only doing what its told to do, his fate is dependant on us.

Its why I think we sometimes sympathise more with animals than with our fellow man.
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>>64687146
>For me it's Laos
Code speak and aesopian language is a bit different, but yeah.
One of the funniest things is how they try to do a "perefors" (lit. "over-force") of terms and memes for propaganda purposes. Basically force meme something to have the other meaning. They are very butthurt about this, since anti-regime RU anons routinely fucked over the government propaganda like this, as with the famous "pinya" meme. So the pro-gov shills try to do this themselves and it leads to fucked up keks, e.g. writing something like "the drug addicted pedo (zelensky)", i.e. literally specifying zelensky in parentheses because just relying on the "the drug addicted pedo" has too big of chance to be read as putin lmao. "The manlet warmonger (zelensky)" and so on. RU anon then take this as run with this deliberately mocking this shit as well.
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>>64687138
>Lawrence of Hyperborea

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>WWII American vets
>get drafted
>go overseas for 3 years straight, no body armor, any shot is basically fatal
>fighting conventional warfare against organized armies backed by economies engaged in total war
>leave behind a wife and 6 kids, can only communicate via snail mail
>experiences almost 20x the average combat action as modern day vets
>war ends, immediately return to work with no special passes
>work until 75 years old, get $6 a month from VA for minor chronic onset shellshock
Vs
>enter military voluntarily
>get to pick your job, and get a big bonus
>maybe you might - possibly- get deployed overseas for 9 months
>a mortar lands 60km from FOB mall
>get back home
>ETS

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>>64686629
>>go overseas for 3 years straight, no body armor, any shot is basically fatal
WWII US medical studies of casualties showed that lethality of small arms was around 20-30%.
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>>64687271
Jesus, that's brutal. That poor tree lost a branch, I hope it grows back.
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>>64687272
>any shot is basically fatal
I mean, you know straight off it's an exageration. Even the Civil War (US) wasn't that bad.
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>>64686629
>WW2
>make $75 a month
>46 months to buy the median house outright

>now
>make $2500 a month
>168 months to buy the median house outright
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>>64686629
>Medieval peasant
>Get pressganged by your local lord
>Gone during the harvest period. the most critical time
>Leave behind wife and 15 kids, can only communicate via prayer
>Experiences 1000x average combat action as modern day vets
>War ends, immediately return to the fields if lucky
>Work until 40 years old, die from a paper cut
Vs
>WWII american vets
>Signed up for it
>Goes "overseas" for 2 years in England chilling in British villages
>Fight just 1 year against 3rd rate garrison troops backed by a slave labour economy on brink of destruction
>Leave behind wife and kids out of harms way, can get in touch via mail, telegraph or phone call in just a day or two
>Experiences almost zero combat action, just shoots everything that moves and get arty/air force to bomb it

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>heavy? just lift some weights bro
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>>64687185
My HCAR beats that, stop complaining and just lift.
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>>64687185
Kegbreath was right, the military really has become pussyfied
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>>64687185
>steel magazine in teh year 2026

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Around elves, relax yourselves.

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>image limit reached

https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>with this handy script installed you'll occasionally hear what sounds like elves singing, but it's actually just Finnish
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Can your meatbag wife tank HE-shells to protect you and your children? No? Thought so.
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>>64687090
I'm a mortarman, if the enemy gets close enough to lob HE at my family...actually, a waifu who can tank HE sounds like a great companion to have around to do the cleanup after I sm done counter-batterying the unlucky fuckers.
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>>64687090
Need clankerwife...
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>>64685940
You'd probably want to stay in the manor gunroom with the Holland & Hollands then, whilst she's with the guests

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My great grandfather was a decorated officer in the US Airforce during the Korean War. My great uncle has a display case with his medals, and his service rifle, which is a select fire M2 Carbine. I haven't inspected it closely, so idk if it's functional or demilitarized. If it is functional idk if it registered or transferable.

Has anyone heard of a scenario like this before? I can't find any examples online of an officer being given an M2 when they retired. I'm also certain that it is an M2, not an M1 Carbine.

My great uncle plans to give me his guns, including that one at some point in the near future. Obviously I hope it's transferable, but I think that could only be the case if it was registered when he retired. I doubt that he submitted any paperwork for it later in his life, and I know that my great uncle never did.

Any thoughts or advice?
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>>64687010
Unfortunate boating accident.
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>>64687010
Hide it. Laws come and go but you only have one heirloom.
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>>64687010
>Any thoughts
Sundown at Coffin Rock.
https://rhp.detmich.com/Sundown_At_Coffin_Rock.html

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Do sidearms still matter in current meta?
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>>64687021
Mostly no but sort of yes.
We've known since WW1 that the number of casualties inflicted by pistols is so low it's negligible. They aren't an impactful small arm because their range is limited and it's comparatively harder to accurately shoot a pistol than a rifle, even with training & especially under stress. Pistols in war only inflict casualties in last-resort close-quarters self-defense scenarios, like in civilian life. Combined arms tactics limit those scenarios & because everybody carries a carbine anyways those situations are more likely to be resolved with a carbine. So in terms of practical & actual usefulness, pistols aren't significant & aren't worth the effort.
HOWEVER - there's a nontrivial psychological benefit for soldiers carrying pistols. Pistols make soldiers FEEL safer. Because pistols are purely close-quarters self-defense weapons, there are some rare situations where they'll save a soldier's life.
For example: a jap/gook sneaks through the line at night and jumps in your foxhole with a bayonet; you're clearing a house in Fallujah and a towelie pops around the corner & grapples for your rifle; you lean your rifle on a nearby tree while you squat to shit in the snow, then a lost Kraut walks up on you because he accidentally slipped through your line while he was searching for a place to shit in the snow.
These are generic examples from history, but they apply to all modern conflicts. Average soldiers won't be in these situations, but they're aware that it's possible, and a soldier feels much safer with a loaded pistol on his side, always in reach.
Anecdotally - I asked a buddy who carries a radio in the Marines. He said he generally prefers not to carry a pistol because it's just one more thing to carry, but if he was going into an active combat zone he'd feel better having one. He said he'd prefer it to be smaller than an M9 or P320; something like a P365 or an M&P Bodyguard would be enough. Just one Marine's opinion
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>>64687150
>forgotten weapons does a vid on thw CBJ ammo
>thousands of retards think its new

young or brown?
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>>64687021
Never have.
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>>64687150
are you a time traveler?
that shit isn't new
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>>64687150
kys eceleb homo
your dad would've beaten you into shape if he'd stayed

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How is Ukraine able to receive this quality of video feed and send controls to low fly drones targeting airbases inside of Russia?
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>>64685064
>the Russians are literally selling oil to the Saudis so the Saudis use it for their internal use and they export more Saudi oil to the EU
Saudi internal consumption is a fraction of EU consumption and only a fraction of Saudi internal consumption can be ascribe to Russian imports.

>Indians refine it and resell as Indian. Same with south American and African producers. Literally everyone is fucking the EU on energy from the us to India because of this while the cost to Russia is a slight discount usually ranging between 5% to 10% of the market price. Meanwhile eu pays 20% to 40% premium compared to pre war on oil and gas.
1. There are no markets that can replace EU consumption to where Russia can export hence the drop in Russian exports across the board in its energy sector
2. That's the cost of decoupling from Russia

>If the nato/west was serious about screwing with Russia financials
Russian financial are seriously screwed up. With oil prices as low as they are they can no longer sustain their government spending. This is what even the Russian central bank is saying. Oil prices are lower than their lifting+transportation costs.

>Just a partial blockade
A blockade needs to be enforced.

>This would put Russia on a brutal economic clock where they would run out of money by the end of 2026 instead than in the next 4 years.

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>>64684955
>>64685394
One of the things massively crippling Russian agriculture is they don't produce seed and import it from Europe; without it they have to use native varieties that simply aren't as good and initially just were not available.

Russia and Belerus are also getting massively fucked by not being able to import western pesticides. That plus the mysterious sudden popularity of French fries in Pyongyang combined with Luka profiteering is why the last two years have resulted in potato shortages.

>>64685927
They really don't have what it takes, Juche requires a whole set of unique conditions that are simply not possible in Russia. At best the cities would temporarily resemble the USSR if Beria was in charge and rural areas would look it was Pol Pot giving the orders then it would collapse very quickly. Russia's geography and ethic diversity alone makes it impossible. The only industrialized nations (and Juche requires alot of heavy industry) that come close to the geographic preconditions i can think of is Spain and maybe France (probably not, too many borders) and those are an mess in terms of Ethnos.
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>>64686663
>sudden popularity of French fries in Pyongyang
That still counts as total American cultural victory, right?
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>>64686669
>french fries
>american
Although they're more Belgian than French, these places have fast foods based around french fries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friterie
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>>64682824
Ukraine is covered in Fiber Optics

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Horsie is safe :)
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>>64685981
>Maxims
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>>64685476
>>64685314
His Russian handlers know he's a goofy idiot. His job is to just sow confusion and dilute proper opinions. If someone doesn't know any better they will see 3 or 5 twitter analysts, and one will say this is bad for Russia, and 2-4 say it's great, then the reader is confused. Russian's dont want to win over everyone, instead they just want our media spaces to be a confusing place where no one can draw meaningful conclusions as to what to do next, thus paralysing our political systems.
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>>64687015
I love you anon
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>>64687159
I love you too, bro (no homo)
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>>64687154
>and dilute proper opinions.
When has he ever been part of the "popular opinion" crowd? Every time I see one of his tweets he's either in the blatantly pro-russian crowd, or part of the contrarion circle jerks that yell "West bad! Russia strong!"


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