>>61466108
>it was a false flag
>invade Russia and glass India
>world is improved 1000%

>>61466108
Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, or hang yourself if you don't own a gun, brownie

>>61466108
>American cities hit
>nothing of value lost
I see this as an absolute win.

>>61466115
Can't invade Russia bro. American people are not ready for another war. It's been two years and American army is still not in Ukraine.

>>61466108
>>take them 30 minutes to hit major cities
in reality it's take 8-10 hours anon

>>61466124
After we convince everyone they launched an attack on American soil, there would not be a Russian left alive.

Nor Indian, we're glassing you too.

>>61466129
They travel at 200 miles an hour.

>>61466108
Even accepting your totally ridiculous and divorced from reality premise, the last word in land warfare is to seize and hold ground.

You're never going to achieve enough mass to seriously degrade the military capability of the United States through drones alone and certainly not in 1 wave. Nor will it enable any kind of serious offensive action. The US is separated from its geopolitical rivals by two massive oceans and no one has A) the naval compacity to decisively defeat it's navies on the open sea or B) the sea-lift compacity to move an invasion force.

It ultimately, even if successful, amounts to terror bombing. Which, inevitably will only awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

>hundreds of these launched at Russia from rural areas hundred miles away
>take them hours to hit major cities
>Su-34s do not scramble
>air defense manage to down 20%
>dozens of drones make it through and hit major petroleum refineries
>bad guys use ladas and flee in different directions
>Ukraine takes responsibility
>there is no panic
What do.

>>61466130
STFU boomer fag. You'd be the first one to crap your pants if that happened lol.

>>61466139
You wouldn't have time to soil yourself before your shadow was burnt into the walls of your mud hut.

>>61466132
Damn, that slow? Holy shit they're barely better than a V1

>>61466139
t. Yamamoto

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>>61466139
Good moooooorning saar

>>61466108
>no country take responsibility
>What do.
I mean that just makes it dealers choice as far as response goes... who do we hate this week.

>>61466108
Neocon and neolib cucks will swallow anything

would be nest to see some home grown terrorists launch some instead of a nation state.

>>61466108
>hundreds of these
>f-22 scramble
US doesn't have enough F-22 to shoot down hundreds

>>61466160
Someone else is gonna tase their balls for Donald Trump? or get trampled in their Gadsden flag? fucking do it faggots, it's about time Y'all Qaeda were completely cleansed from America anyway

>>61466174
retard

So 100 RPGs hit the USA?

Oh no. Whatever will it do.

>>61466129
>>61466132
>>61466147
He said 'launch from ocean hundred miles away' so if they travel at 200mph, it'll take 30 mins to reach land. He did not say 'from a nation state across the ocean'. He said from the ocean. Ignoring that if you're in a position to launch hundreds of drones from vessels in the ocean you're going to get spotted doing so or worked out who it was simply by calculating where they came from and who is most likely to have done it... what is the point? Okay you hit cities and kill some people and do damage... So? What does this actually do? Wars all have goals. Even terror attacks have goals. What does this achieve if nobody goes 'Yeah we did it'. What is the point? Terror attacks are pointless if you don't admit it was you to get attention. IS admitted they murdered all those people in Russia (funny how that has been totally forgotten already) because it wants to achieve its goals and scare people. When the IRA blew up innocent civilians in pubs in London, it was because somethingsomethinggiveusnorthernirelandsowecanmurderprotswithoutissue. When Christian Fundies firebomb abortion clinics, it's because abortion is murder, so stop it. What does launching hundreds of kamikaze drones at some coastal cities do?

>>61466108
Somehow I think there's a plethora of air bases and radar stations that exist purely to counter that. I do think they should commission at least a few nuclear interceptors though in the event of one huge massed attack

>>61466193
This just in, a horrible tragedy has just occurred on the west coast that left 37 Americans dead, most of them children. A candlelight vigil is planned later this evening. Authorities struggle to figure how this happened at the site of the attack but they say they found a manifesto in the locker of the shooter.
Now back to our other top story, new information on yesterdays mass drone attack that left 3 dead and 7 wounded.

>>61466207
meanwhile in reality:
https://www.twz.com/mystery-drones-swarming-navy-destroyer-shined-lights-on-its-bridge

>>61466108
The US blames whichever nation they are looking for a war justification against this week and overthrows their government within 6 months.
How it goes from there depends on which country and how much they hate being a US puppet state.

>>61466198
They wont travel in a straight line at 200mph, pathetically slow for an aerial target, the whole time. They also lack accuracy and carry a small warhead. Even if they were used in a surprise saturation attack (extremely unlikely to happen), it's doubtful they would do any serious damage

>>61466108
why do you assume F22s would be the only response?

>waterborne defenses on patrol would spot them and respond
>anti-air defenses along the coast would shoot a bunch down
>swarms of drones available to shoot them down
>plenty of other possible reaponses like space lasers, stealth helicopters, and land submarines

We have the most expensive military in the world. They have built layers of security into the defense plan. You are not as smart as you think you are.

>>61466222
It's all commercial quadcopters flying around US ships near ports. Gee, I wonder why they didn't just open up with the Phalanx...

>>61466163
It also likely wouldn't be F-22s at all. The hundreds of F-16s and F-15s around the coasts would be more than capable of handling a threat like this. Zero would make it through.

>>61466132
>They travel at 200 miles an hour
>Maximum speed
>Around 185 km/h (115 mph)
No they don't

>>61466108
US satellites would be able to tell where the "bad guys" came from and where they fled to. They would likely be spotted on their way to the US. Analysis of the drones would likely reveal where they were made. And probably every drone would be able to be intercepted given the enormous numbers of aircraft on the mainland US, in addition to US Navy and Coast Guard ships and land based air defense batteries shooting the drones down, and even large numbers of military, police, and civilians with small arms together could likely take some down if they got through (see Ukraine where some police have literally done just that).
>tl;dr kill yourself rajeesh

The main challenge in this scenario isn’t launching hundreds of kamikaze drones at the US from the ocean, it’s how such an operation even gets to the point of launching given the degree to which ocean traffic is monitored by numerous US assets, not to mention human intelligence.

But let’s pretend opfor maintained impeccable security setting up the attack, used launchers hidden in shipping containers and arrived off-site via legit commercial routes aboard legit freighters. The next challenge would be to somehow evade US air monitoring from picking up the kamikazes immediately after launch — because if they have to fly 1.5-2 hours before reaching their target, they’ll only have 30 minutes give or take before being intercepted by the USAF, with other squadrons activated to deal with the number of threats as needed. That attack probably won’t make it. But let’s say it’s 600 launched in order to overwhelm the defense. The challenge then is how do the bad guys escape? They probably can’t. Even if they rigged up a submarine to escape the container ships unseen, that close to the US coast would be mean any such sub would be tracked by US hydrophone networks and found by the Navy when they show up. Even small motorboats won’t escape detection given the number of sophistication of sensors watching the ocean. So this attack is possible, but it’ll be difficult to set up and escape is virtually impossible.

>>61466198
>you can get to a hundred miles of the east or west coast with a ship big enough to launch those drones without being on radar
>you can just sail an unidentified ship that close to the US coast without the navy, coast guard or DEA taking a look at it
>they can't figure out what ship it is
>they can't figure out who rented it
>they can't figure out what ports it visited
>they can't figure out who the crew was
>they can't just run down your gay little speed boats
>you are going anywhere on those gay little speed boats other than the US or one of its caribbean bitches
>you aren't a absolute retard even for a pajeet other pajeets think is untouchable

>>61466108
>hundreds of these
>from ocean hundred miles away
>launch pads
>bad guys use speed boats and flee
>no country take responsibility

How many launchpads and what size, you say?

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>>61466108
>turdie fanfiction

>>61466108
>shoot them down

https://youtu.be/DPGDAZyQ44k&t=130

Wait until the real GOAT gets developed when they put a jet engine on it and they're launched from satellites. We only have a short amount of time before automated weapons are so advanced we legitimately cannot fight our government and small governments can attack civilian populations with ease.

>>61466554
>brother war
Dumb nigger

>>61466108
>bill passed to support Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan
>thirdies insane cope
Checks out

>>61466554
>fanning the flames of a brother war
You mongols aren't my brothers.

>>61466554
>brother war
>reddit upvotes
this post has come to make me realize that people who mention le reddit on 4chan are actually worse than any real redditor

>>61466691
they're literally edgy redditors that found /pol/ or /int/ after getting banned

>>61466108
>dozens of drones make it through and ground based air defence shoots them down
>one makes it trough but it's shot down by the local population

I'm not sure if OP is smart or really dumb buy this is basically the nazi plan to hit America with submarine towed v2 platforms.

But it was the threat of such things that was intended to deter the Americans aiding the Russians financially, the rockets themselves were never of intended to be strategic weapons they existed for political reasons.

Within the next 2 years 3d printed engines and spray moulded aero kits will allow any man and his dog to build long range SSL assets. It's already within the capacity of the ordinary American to produce a mortar drone, or a more advanced tube fired autonomous glide bomb.

>>61466108
This is just a bad cruise missile.
>hundreds of missile boats armed with cruise missiles appear off the US coast
Not possible because missile boats don't have the range.

>US CBG shows up for the mandatory public utilities raid
>turdies don't notice because they couldn't drink their tap water anyway
>US blows up internet hard lines and jams satellite communications
>internet immediately improved
>VX gas the rest of the turdies
>whole world immediately improved
yeah.

>>61466108
>Speed boats 100 miles out in open ocean
Well we'd probably fish their drowned corpses outta the water and then ID them based on FB images

>>61466108
>gives himself the most advantageous (Impossible) starting position
>Still only gets 10% through
Cucked even in your brownest fantasies

>>61466108
These things aren't even effective against the Ukrainians and you think you're going to get a swarm through and successfully strike American targets? Good luck.
>no country take responsibility
This will not work, because you cannot hide the logistical tail of a massive drone swarm.
>bad guys use speed boats and flee in different directions
You cannot launch long range suicide drones from a speedboat. If you think a mothership is going to go unnoticed in the Pacific, you're insane. That ship is going to be stopped, boarded, and the command crew will be being tortured for information in less than 24 hours. Probably in less than 8.
>>61466124
Attack Americans successfully and they will literally kill millions and millions of you before they feel a modicum of satisfaction. Americans are the most genocidal people on Earth when roused to anger, and this has been true literally from the beginning, when raghead pirates attacked American shipping and the US responded by sending in the Marines to murder anyone they saw, burn down what they could set on fire, and bombard with cannons whatever seemed in need of new holes.

Yet another slide thread.

>>61466108
> bad guys use speed boats and flee in different directions
In what world would they all get away?

>>61467151
>Attack Americans successfully and they will literally kill millions and millions of you before they feel a modicum of satisfaction. Americans are the most genocidal people on Earth when roused to anger
Burgerbros, we may yet live to watch Moscow and Beijing burn together. Your political system might be cucked now, but I believe you'll get your shit together when the time comes
>t. polack

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>>61466108

>fry them way before they even get inland by sending in autonomous drones that zap their electronics with microwave beams

Brownoids, chinkoids, russoids, pajeetoids...

They are all subhuman compared to the greatness of the western man.

>>61466120
>t. idiot
>muh big scary cities with black pipo
Have fun dying from something only preventable with advanced drugs, medical equipment, training, and education. IDK how many MRI machines, microchips, machine tools, heavy machinery, etc. your flyover town makes, but even a moron like you will realize when literally everything you need to live stops working or runs out.

>>61466108
>undreds of these launched at USA from ocean hundred miles away
Loses immediately to the atlantic ocean

Hundreds? Wouldn't that obliterate the military budget of most countries?

>>61467328
Whatever you say Jamal. I'm sure your gender queer dance studies degree will get you into your dream job some day

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>>61466218
Okay anon, this got a chuckle out of me.

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>>61466257
>land submarines
That's D.U.M.B

>>61466108
>Take them 30 minutes
>To fly hundreds of miles
Lol
Lmao

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>>61466124
>yeah bro let's just sneak attack the nation with the largest military on earth and a historically attributed thirst for revenge
I really don't understand why they keep doing it.

>>61466124
Hahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD
JUST COME ON WE LOVE WAR

>>61466108
>hundreds of a specific model of drone
>bad guys use (hundreds of) speed boats, presumably hundreds of miles off shore (???)
>no country take responsibility
I have a feeling the US might have an idea of what country constructs a mass produced drone, where they have been shipped, who could organise something so cohesive, and potentially even pick up a couple of those speed boats before they find landfall in south america for further questioning

>>61466124
Shit, bro. They blew up the World Trade Center and two years later we invaded a country that had no involvement whatsoever.

>>61466108
>Dozens of Shahed drones
My god! That's somewhere between 2 1/4 and 5 1/4 tons of explosives, spread across who knows how many cities! The entire United States would be destroyed!!!

>>61466228
6 months? We must be slipping. The 2001 invasion of Afghanistan lasted 9 weeks from start to finish. The 2003 invasion of Iraq was over in 5.

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>>61467604
>The 2001 invasion of Afghanistan lasted 9 weeks
Did it now? Then what was all the hubbub in 2021 about?
>failed 20 year invasion
lmao

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>>61466793
>Bubba McCousinfucker is awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom with Distinction and his Ruger 10/22 is put on permanent display in the Smithsonian

>>61467617
When's Kyyyiv going to fall? (extra Y added per failure to take it)

>>61466108
>30 minutes
>from across the ocean
Going to take a lot longer to reach the USA and I'm sure these things don't have the endurance to even making it 5% of the way

>>61467617
>An invasion is the same as an occupation

>>61467617
>Peace Corps digs a new well for his village
>Still drinks straight from the Ganges
There's only a finite supply of drugs in the world, we can't keep treating your brain parasites, anon.

>>61466108
> Hundreds are launched from Tijuana slums and industrial buildings. In half an hour the US Navy ships and facilities in San Diego are a shattered wasteland. In an hour, Long Beach is in flames.

Pity the navy stripped our their fuel tanks at Pearl Harbor. Gonna be a short war in the Pacific.

>>61466108
CIA, NSA, etc. has eyes on all the likely suspects. They'd know all about it before the drones were loaded on ships.

>>61467698
>thinking one of these drones could put a dent in a warship
kek

>>61467252
I dream of American and Polish Abrams rolling through Red Square in a victory parade. Please convince someone in charge to put hussar wings on the bustles of yours.

>>61467693
You can lead the poos to water, but you can't make them think.

>>61467328
How many powerplants, solar and wind farms, and transmission line switch yards does your city have? Oh, what a shame, it's not enough to meet your needs. How unfortunate that those things are built and maintained by the folks in flyover country.

>>61466124
And your brilliant idea is to give a country notorious for curbstomping other countries when fucked with for nearly its entire existence, or better yet making shit up just to curbstomp said countries, a perfect excuse to band together and curbstomp you in return.
>god I hate third worlders

ITT OP realizes why the USA will never be invaded and/or will continue to be a world military power for a long time

>>61466380
Did you even read my post or do you just immediately start screeching without even reading it? /k/ has done dumb hypotheticals for years, OP was a dumb hypothetical. You didn't read the dumb hypothetical correctly so I corrected you. Don't be dumb next time, because you're pushing the retardedness of OP's dumb hypothetical. Almost like he was aiming for the intelligence of the average /k/ user like (You).

>>61467550
Saddam deserved it

>>61467522
They see the stupid shit we do on tv and think we are soft and weak.

>>61467652
And even then, the occupation was fine. It was only when they trusted the afghanis to not be retarded that things fell apart.

Which brings to mind a question that I’ve been wondering about. Everyone seemed shocked and appalled when Afghanistan collapsed after the pullout, saying that they never knew the national government was so incompetent. But I distinctly remember just about every vet that came back during the occupation remarked about how lazy, retarded, and useless the Afghanis were. Are my memories gaslighting me?

>>61467550
>invade afghanistan to kill terrorist
>invade iraq for WMDs
There might not have been any WMDs but we didn't invade iraq because of 9/11.

>>61467868
No one in the middle east gives a shit about their own country. The Iraqis tore off their uniforms and fled the second ISIS showed up and the afghanis were too scared to fight the taliban by themselves. They just don't care to fight for anything because their lives fucking suck.

>>61467871
> There might not have been any WMDs
There were btw. There weren’t any nukes, obviously. But given the information at the time (I.e. Iraq very definitely had a nuke program before Desert Storm. And prior to Iraqi Freedom, Saddam was doing everything that you would expect a tinpot dictator trying to hide his nukes would do), it wasn’t too hard a stretch to believe.

>>61467871
>There might not have been any WMDs
There was.

>>61467887
You're correct, there was. In fact, the US covered it up for decades. We found out in 2014 I think. Or something. Tl;dr, they found masses of chemicals and shit and old chemical weapons and shit. Instead of telling the world (and getting every terrorist cell and rogue state coming over to grab them) they lied and hid it. Because they couldn't find it all and didn't want the above happening. Additionally, US also made grunts clear it up WITHOUT protection and dozens died and got ill. So they covered it up.

>>61467887
>>61467895
>muh conspiracy theories
ok.

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>>61467904
>muh conspiracy theories
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

>>61466108
>John Bolton gets his first erection since 9/11

>>61466108
>>61466116
>Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, or hang yourself if you don't own a gun, brownie
/thread

>>61467151
> If you think a mothership is going to go unnoticed in the Pacific, you're insane
That ship was hijacked by bad guys and was later blown up and drown. Bad guys used speed boats to get to another ship to refill the speed boats and destroyed that ship too. Until you investigate the ship wreckage on the bottom of the ocean they will be long gone chilling on the other continent. You really think le mighty US Navy controls every inch of the ocean lol? US Navy can't even intercept most of the drug trafficking kek.

>>61467737
> He pretends a pile of oily rags and a Big lighter didn't destroy the Bonhomme Richard

>>61468211
All you've done in your nonsense scenario is made it even easier to spot something is up. Please try. Please. I sincerely want to see footage of Americans committing REAL war crimes again. Maybe I can score an ash tray made out of a chink skull on e-bay.

>>61466108
>>hundreds of these launched at USA from ocean hundred miles away
>>take them 30 minutes to hit major cities
if the Shaheebs can fly at 200mph then I'm a monkeys uncle

>>61468017
>ilthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them.

Finding a bunch of old rusted out chemical weapons =/= weapons of mass destruction. This is like saying soldiers getting sick from depleted uranium shells were also WMDs.

They found old useless chemical weapons but still no WMDs.

>>61467550
Why would you think that any country would be behind the drone attack? There are so many billionaires and PMCs around the world that can do it you know. Pretty sure this entire operation can be organized for about 20 million or even less.

>>61468447
They can be improved by installing a better engine duh.

>>61468442
Seething hard eh?

There's a lot of slide threads going on today. Wonder what blew up this time.

>>61468528
>thread is about a weapon
>muh slide
Dude I think two years of that half retarded war in Ukraine really fried your brain. Assuming you even had a good functioning brain in the first place.

Are these drones worth a damn at all? I mean, they are slow as fuck and don't carry that large of a warhead. And it's just a regular high explosive, no high tech shaped charges or anything like that. They aren't going to be able to take out armor or anything.

Plus they cost anywhere between 10k to 50k so they aren't exactly cheap. Now that laser weapons are becoming a thing on naval ships and trucks they seem like they would be shot down easily.

>>61468674
Oh yeah, something definitely happened. Can't wait to see later.

>>61468720
They can damage buildings and cause a massive panic. Rich people sell their stocks and later buy the dip and become even more rich.

>>61467533
Seriously why do they tease us like this?

>>61468674
This thread is just turdie wank of "BUT SAARS WHAT IF USA WAS HIT BY SHITTY DRONES AND COULDNT FIGHT BACK" and you're mad everyone can see it

>>61468777
Just damaging a building seems pretty worthless. It's not like a tomahawk or other cruise missile which will level the place.

So they are just meant as a terror weapon to mildly inconvenience you.

>>61468211
Too bad for your the CIA observed all of this and the preparations for it as it happened, and no further investigation is needed to identify the responsible parties, nor to haunt them down and extemriante them to the last man, woman and child.

>>61468211
You don't think we have spies in every port in the world that will be watching incoming ships?
>blow up the ships
now this is a real microbrain idea, let's give something that the USN hydrophones (which pretty much do cover the entire ocean) can easily triangulate.

Imagine a six-year-old who comes up with the whimsical idea of a giant metal funnel with a spout that loops back around so when you hold it in front of you it catches all the bullets and shoots them back, and that he sincerely believes this will effectively end guns as a weapon.

Now imagine that same idea from an adult man with a sub-70 IQ and a seething hatred for the Western countries who keep him from starving to death. That's your typical third-worlder.

>>61466108
Stuff an iron rod up OP's ass to stop him shitting out terrible threads.

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>>61468867
>You don't think we have spies in every port
They have an office with a desk in every port too bro.

>>61468528
Think they're still seething about the Ukraine Aid bill passing and that Tu-22M getting shot down

>>61468493
9/11 was done by a non-state actor. Why would your shitty techno-thriller plotline go any differently?

>>61466139
>STFU boomer fag
>You'd be the first one to crap your pants if that happened lol.
And what war did your generation fought ?

>>61466108
>hundreds of these launched at India from ocean hundred miles away
>take them 70 minutes to hit major cities
>tejas scramble and take off to shoot them down
>airborne after 65 minutes
>manage to down 9% because tejas is a garbage plane piloted by incompetent curry niggers
>hundreds of drones make it through and hit major coastal cities
>launch pads are disposed by bad guys by blowing them up and drown
>bad guys use speed boats and flee in different directions
>no country take responsibility
>panic in the india but no one notices because the country is a dysfunctional mess even on a good day

Please try. I want an opportunity to saw the heads off enemy prisoners with the full might of my military behind me before I get too old to do it.

>>61466124
>this time the Americans are weak and hate war, sure the past dozen times it's gotten all of their enemies killed but this time it'll happen for real you guys
pfffbt Joe Biden would drink mountain dew from a chalice made from Putin's skull if given such an excuse to get the party started and the entire nation from the gayest leftist to the lowest IQ maga tard would cheer him on y'all have *got* to stop pretending our decadence is weakness
or don't it's pretty endlessly funny watching the planet's dumber nations fall for this one weird trick over and over again for 200 years running

>>61469970
Meh. Iraq was the last country USA ever invaded. People mostly don't care these days about wars because there's more content on the Internet they can entertain themselves with. Also their precious stonk market, etc. Iran literally officially bombed Israel and nothing happened.

>>61469996
Yea, no one cares because it's only thirdies, and on rare occasion non-US first world countries, getting hit so the US populace has no reason to care. A major attack on the US homeland would mean suddenly you have a large portion of the populace who'd like the government to do whatever it takes to make sure it never happens again.

>>61466349
Everyday dozens of Narcosubs land in various locations in the US and Mexico to dump drugs, the coast guard still has to do old fashioned surveillance to catch them. SOSUS and Pave Paws were designed for a near-peer adversary, not asymmetrical small-boats.
You'd just end up having the navy blow up a bunch of civvie recreational boats in the chaos because there's no established way of knowing who is friend-foe.

>>61466691
It's shitposting retard.

>>61470101
That's SO SUS frfr on god

>>61466108
>>f-22 scramble and take off to shoot them down
>>airborne after 15 minutes
I'm pretty sure the United States has planes on minutes standby especially in such tense times

>>61468512
>s-seething hard eh
you really don't understand that we desperately want you to do something stupid that pushes the average normie out of his pro-peace larp.

you realize once the average voter lets go of his gripes for war after you've given him enough reason to, your country is pretty much fucked right?

it's really hilarious watching thirdies get so cocky because the US made a political decision to stop occupying a country they had uncontested control over for 20 years. do you think that the taliban came back and beat the shit out of the US with their bare hands or some shit, what fantasy scenario are you expecting to play out when you get us to stop playing by our rules. hint: those rules are not there to stop you from doing scary shit, they exist to stop white people from doing scary shit.

>>61469996
>s-surely they won't do it again, i-i mean they did it to the last guy b-but surely it won't happen if we poke them?
you guys really are not students of history, are you?

>>61469996
>iran literally bombed israel.
but they didn't.
the only thing that saved iran from major retaliation is that their best wasn't enough and it did no damage.
if that attack was actually effective at hitting military targets, you'd have seen a much larger reprisal pretty much instantly.

>>61466108
doesnt the US have like couple dozen F22s that can actually fly?
it was never meant to be an airplane, more of a grift for the MIC.

>>61466120
>t. exurb parasite LARPing as a rural

>>61466808
It's also within the capabilities of any American to walk into any Senator's home and shoot them, but nobody does it. Means aren't the issue, motivation is.

>>61470268
Now this is just some pure good quality cope post.

>>61470348
>non-response
nothing less from a shivering little thirdie.
the response is always proportional, if your attack didn't do shit because it was ineffective, we won't do shit either.
if it was effective, we will reply in kind.
again, do you understand that i WANT you to succeed in pulling off an ego-attack.
PLEASE do it, i want us to have an excuse.
sadly you won't because this is all bravado and you're actually scared shitless of fighting the largest military entity on the planet, you just don't want to look like a pussy, which you sadly end up doing anyway.

>>61470375
America isn't going to fight a war any time soon. They had plenty of reasons to put troops on the ground in Ukraine already. Never will. What part of Biden's speech I'm Poland more than two years ago you don't understand? America has plenty of reasons to also bomb Iran but there is tons of new excuses being made every other week why it's not happening.

>>61470375
Also in OO it clearly states that no country would take a responsibility. Meaning that anyone could be behind the ocean drone operation even it could be planned by some Americans. So are you saying that you don't know what to do in that scenario and would rather support an invasion of some irrelevant country to just create an illusion that the government is doing something? Then what are going to say when they hit you with a bunch of drones sent from the ocean again right after you invaded that country?

>>61468430
With its fire prevention systems off and flammable material piled everywhere.

>>61468468
>They were in bad shape so they don't count
Do commies really?

>>61470439
russia has nukes and that's literally the only thing that prevents them from becoming a crater in the ground, what makes you think shittystan country #65 is going to go the same way?

>>61468743
You're retarded.

>>61470529
the implication is fantasy, you're not hiding a mothership out there, especially if it somehow succeeds, they will find you.

>>61470577
Ok you find a wreckage of the ship and then what. The most you will do is false blame some irrelevant third world country because American investigation is le best and every one has to trust me bro because America. Ok get it.

>>61466124
>American people are not ready for another war
Americans are ready for whatever the news tells them to be ready for. I think you underestimate just how easy it is to sway the opinions of people nowadays.
If the government wants war, they'll make sure to get the support for it.

>>61467522
It's the geopolitical equivalent of discord clout.

>>61470620
but the goverment doesn't want a war, because the people don't want a war.

>hundreds of these launched at Russia from rural areas hundred miles away
>Su-34s scramble
>air defense manage to down 20%
>dozens of jets make it through and hit major petroleum refineries
>bad guys use ladas and flee in different directions
>Ukraine takes responsibility
>there is no panic
>drones will arrive in a few hours

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>>61466108
>brownoid cope is literally "Its costs you 10x to shoot them down"
>as if the First World has a shortage of munitions or money and replacing weapons isn't job growth

>>61470620
Not as easy as it was even 20 years ago because Internet. America is also divided.

>>61470606
>Ok you find a wreckage of the ship and then what
You know who done it thanks to the wreckage of the ship, you fucking retard.

>>61470606
>you find the wreckage of the ship.
no, we just find the ship.
i just told you, you're not hiding a ship with a bunch of long range drones on it off the US coast, comparing it to narco subs is pure cope.

>>61466108
Didn't we just see how this strategy didn't work at all against a modern air defense network with the Iran strikes?

>>61470853
/pol/ and /leftypol/ are both convincing themselves that was actually a huge success.

>>61470903
>/pol/ and /leftypol/
A distinction without a difference.

>>61466108
Speedboats on the ocean somehow escaping the coast guard, navy and airforce. Sorry no. We capture those who don't drown, and they immediately give up who they serve. Mostly based simply on who they are. Then we bomb the shit out of them.

>>61470853
some simple math could be done to determine how many drones/cruise missiles/etc. would need to be launched to overwhelm any defense.
that defense capacity has to be determined at some point.
think critically here for a moment (i know it's hard for /k/ope) - a second or third wave: how much would have been intercepted? how about a 4th or 5th wave?
Continue this exercise - it's purely economical. At some point the cost and the availability of the defense will be overcome.
All it takes is for the game to be changed. Send up 10's of thousands, with most of them being mere ghosts. there is no defense that can stand.
We just havent arrived at a point where this is relevant... yet

>>61471489
>how about a 4th or 5th wave?
So the US Navy just doesn’t exist in this scenario?

>>61471489
The part that retards like yourself don't understand is that assembling the thousands of drones in a single firing location for your epig saturation attack is going to be the most obvious thing to anyone who cares to look and as such will be shut down by anyone with a halfway competent airforce, as shown by the USN picking off so many of Iran's missiles even if they weren't allowed to just go bomb the launch site.

>>61470761
Can't just fucking search every ship in the ocean. Those drones won't be even seen until the moment they are launched.

>>61471539
Ships have to have transponders turned on. A cargo ship sailing with it turned off is grounds to be searched for that reason alone.

>>61466318
so they're unironically slower than me in my camry driving to work after 16 beers

>>61467887
Except they absolutely lied to congress and knew they were.

>>61470268
Iran informed Isreal of the attacks time and targets ahead of the attack. It was internal appeasement for the hard right. And then Isreal responded in kind. It's literal political Theatre for the far right tards of each nation.

This is a very bizarre thread and OP seems very third-world.

>>61466108
The "panic" would be a farcically huge air defense system on every coast that would push AA technology in America forward 30 years.

>>61471848
1/3 of USA is literally a third world. Your insults and buzzwords are useless here.

>>61471604
Ok they can have them on. Captain has a gun to his head or decided to cooperate for 2 million dollars and a seat on the speed boat his family has no idea what's going on.

>>61466108
Wow if only the largest coast guard in the world had hundreds of vessels with CWIS surrounding the country at all times.

>>61472212
Then it would be astoundingly easy to check what ships sailed across the ocean to within 200 miles of the coast, stopped, and then turned around at the precise time the drones were launched.

>>61472212
Okay but in the real world, we aren't there to call you a retard for having a bad plan. You don't get to change the scenario mid-argument, because the very fact that you were stupid enough to propose it seriously the first time suggests that if you were in command you would've done it that way, failed, died, and then nobody would ever get to try it some theoretical way that might actually work because now the Americans know and will be looking for it.

>>61471489
>plan has to scale to the point where cost and surprise advantage is lost
>multiple waves make it so perpetrators will inevitably be found out
>time between attacks gives time to reload or bring up other assets, like the fucking navy
>all plan succeeded in doing is increasing US military budget and humiliating whatever shithole the attack comes from
Great plan.

>>61472269
I like how this retard's plan requires
An untraceable stateless entity that hasn't been compromised by any US friendly or neutral intelligence
That can assemble and arsenal of long range drones in great enough numbers to overwhelm the US's missile defense network
A fleet of untraceable stealth ships that can approach the US mainland without being detected
Countless crews and operators needed to launch hundreds of drones simultaneously
The ability to magically disable the immediate US air and naval reaction in order to launch multiple waves of attacks
Having more drones on your stealth armada than the US has interceptors at hand on its own territory
Everyone involved in the operation somehow getting away undetected by speedboat, even though the only place reachable by speedboat is the US
And of course nobody bothering to look at any of the debris from hundreds of drones to figure out where they were made

This shit is so stupid it makes armchair copelord seem like a cunning strategist in comparison.

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Since this is seems to be the dedicated third worlder wunderwaffen thead, I present the narco carrier. You could spend all of this money on speedboats and drones, along with a cargo ship to launch said drones, or you could combine the two and have a vastly superior weapons platform. You could strike from anywhere, cleaving super carriers in twain with your shitty moped powered cruise missiles. The vvest has no covnter to this brilliant strategy.

>>61472395
Yeah bro all the drones will have serial numbers an they will find invoices in the empty containers.

>>61472492
So you're saying that this terrorist group built hundreds of long range drones out of completely proprietary components they manufactured themselves with no identifying marks or design elements. Why stop at drones then? Why not send hundreds of nuclear battleships with space lasers while you're at it?

Would be easier to somehow imbed hundreds of your men as dock workers, sailors, port officials, etc. for decades, load hundreds of drones onto a cargo ship, launch them all when nearing us coastline, then scuttle the ship and optionally escape via submarine.

>>61472519
They can always assemble those out of a bunch of Chinese made components and 3d print other things in some wearhouse in Latin America. As for getting away they can use other ships far from each other as fueling stations or they can have extra fuel with them. Those boats can travel pretty far desu.

>>61472527
It's how the wars will be fought in the future I think. Those things unlike regular military missiles can be built literally anywhere. If Iran can make them then other people with enough money can make them. Countries like US will need to make new unti drone systems that will take years and it's not guaranteed if it's going to work perfectly. It kinda crazy if you think about it really.

>>61468468
Chemical weapons are WMDs you dumbfuck.
They’re the “C” in “NBC”
Or “CBRN” I guess

>>61468493
> PMCs
No.
There’s two that would be capable (three I guess, if you count Draken)
1) Blackwater/Xe/Constallis/Triple Canopy/whatever the fuck they’re calling themselves this week. They have approximately negative reasons to drone strike the US. Same goes for Draken.
2) Wagner. They very much would drone strike the US. Problem is, they’re A) incompetent, and B) Russia

>>61472212
Then the captain should karate chop the hostage taker and steal the 2 million dollars, go to Vegas, and leave his family to be eaten by sharks or something. I dunno, I'm not 9 years old.

>>61466134
>US is separated from its geopolitical rivals by two massive oceans
Which can also be a major problem now because US Navy can't monitor them because they're f their size. Yes you can detect an enemy war ship fleet but can't police every random vessel anywhere further than 10 miles from the coast.

>>61473335
>because they're f their size
*Because of their size
Sorry my Internet device has AI auto correct lol.

>>61466108
That's too complex. A much simpler attack would be to smuggle explosives across the border, build a bunch of quadcopters, arm them with the explosives, and then launch a Time on Target attack on everything from airbases (most planes are stored outdoors) to key power substations.

>>61470561
Yes, that's been the excuse ever since Bush left office and it wasn't worth continuing to lie about the WMDs anymore.

>>61466150
Sauce on poster slut

>>61473674
Oceans make it easier to get away than crossing land borders.

>>61473761
No.